How does /g/ prefer their arrow keys?

>>60915361
"Filthy normie." I might be okay with "flower," "square," and "Swiss."

hjkl

filthy normie is objectively the best. lowest distance finger has to pass from arrow up to arrow down

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>>60915361
nonexistent

>>60915566
>not binding arrows in place of / ralt fn ant pn
shit layout

>>60915582
uncomfy as fuck cause of distance

a fucking joystick > square > filthy normie > diaperfag > flower > candybar > swiss > diamond

bnpf

>>60915361
>1▶>>60915424 >>60915566
> How does /g/ prefer their arrow keys?
Swiss looks pretty comfy to be fair

>>60915361
Diaperfag makes most sense but swss is not bad either
swiss should not be included tho,because copy is cheating.

Reasoning: filthy normie has BOTTOM RIGHT,BOTTOM LEFT,BOTTOM and one "up" key
Diaperfag has correctly up,down,right,left

Where's the linear layout? Left->Down->Up->Right

Like HJKL and similar

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>>60915630
I've been using mine like that for the past couple months. Seems fine so far.

>>60915775
I forgot about those, I have to update the picture

>>60915775
posted immediately above you baka

>>60915699
I get super and meta, but why hyper when literally everything ever calls it fn?

>>60916180
precisely because nothing uses hyper it's always safe to map your own hotkeys to it

Filthy normie, candybar or flower for me.

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>>60916180
It's a throwback to the Space Cadet.

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>>60916336
And then of course we have the logical continuation:
the Space Cadette

>>60916336
>Facebook like key
WAY AHEAD OF IT'S TIME

>>60915361
I have no problems with any of those except candy bar and a fucking joystick.

hjkl

>>60915361
W
ASD

>>60915439
/thread

>>60915361
Swiss

filthy normie is how i play my fighting games

ive always been interested in this considering im building a custom UMPC soon

i was thinking about a staggered ergonomic design where the right arrow is a bit above the left to account for index/ring finger lengths

none of the examples represent this sadly

>>60915361
aren't the "candybar", "diaperfag", and the 3rd "flower" all the same???

shouldn't they be in the same category?


Also why include joypad?
Now you need to include Dpad and trackpads and ball mice and analog sticks as interfaces

>>60916776
>aren't the "candybar", "diaperfag", and the 3rd "flower" all the same???
Kind of, I count them separatedly because the keys on each category have different sizes

>Also why include joypad?
The joystick picture is from a Sony MSX computer that you could screw the joystick in the middle of the arrow keys and the machine will read the joystick the same as the arrows

>>60915361
I want to kill the faggot designer of candybar

>>60915361
jkl;

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>>60915361
I have evolved.

>not mapping arrow keys to 3rd fn layer on your 40%

>>60915439
This is the only right answer

>>60915361
there is a reason why normie is the normie

>>60917366
What do the additional keys do?

>>60915361
i live in switzerland, never seen those swiss arrow keys in my life, op is a fag

>>60915439
jkl;

FTFY

>>60918950
"The swiss" is from an Amstrad CPC and so far its the only computer I know of that has the arrow keys like that
Its called "swiss" because its a cross, just like switzerland's flag

>>60915439
Can't wait until vi is nothing more than a bad memory

People STILL use arrow keys? It's 2017 grandpa. Use a touchscreen.

>>60918968
This is it, mane.
The only way to operate.

>>60918640
Up+l/r

>>60915361
HJKL

Literally anything but candy bar

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>>60915361
I'll take the ghetto joystick

>>60915361
Filthy Normie of hjkl

>>60921514
that's pretty neat. I have never seen one of those.

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>>60917366
Two can play this game, brother

>>60915361
>no win98 numpad

Bunch of fags.

candybar or nonexistent, since I use hjkl

>>60916355
That's hyper super meta, if you know what I mean.

>>60919098
>I have never done any work on my computer

>>60916573
>wasd
>not esdf

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>>60915361
Perfection.

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>>60924951
Superior.

>>60924983
as someone who used both, I think you're wrong

>>60925024
as someone who used both, I think he's right

>>60925024
The shitty d-pad placement on xbox pad alone makes it inferior.

>>60925039
That's exactly why it's better. D-pad feels worse than on dualshock, but the placement is better.

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>>60916355
what about shifted numerical symbols ~!@#$%^&*()_+}-

or the punctuation location? `=\':"
>this hurts the programmer

>>60925039
I feel like the 360s dpad is superior in birds eye view shooters and 2d fighting/platformer games

the 360 style is bad for accurate low response actions within FPS games (switching weapons in a firefight) and rythm games

>>60915664
Autism.

>>60915664
You don't use four fingers dumbass, three on the base and the middle one goes up and down, filthy normie is much more logical

Flower two

>>60925208
Meme keyboards aren't meant to be practical, anon. They're just desk fedoras for people to masturbate over.

>>60919046
It's also a common configuration on terminal keyboards.

>>60918968
kl;'

>>60925518
l;'RETURN

WASD flipped to arrow keys with Fn key at the position of the caps lock button

DZXC

Come at me.

>>60924983
>>60925024
>>60925033
>>60925039
I was just trolling with the 360 controller. The original dpad was fucking abysmal. You know I googled "xbox 360 dpad" and all I could find were mods to fix the original, most of them being replacing it with a PS2 dpad.

PS dpad is IMHO one of the best dpad designs.

>>60924983
I used to be a Sonyfag and I disagree.
The d-pad is better though.

>>60915361
Filthy normie, since it's most common

ITT: redditfags

>>60927474
Wat

It's not even in the shape of any arrow keys. Like, I know ESDF is used unironically (I used it in some games, since it gives you easy access to QA and then you can stretch to hit the huge Tab/CapsLock keys easily too), I could understand a similar meme for DXCV or SZXC for some inane reason, but DXZC sounds like just randomly mashed letters.

>>60915361
filthy normie since it's the best. your fingers are paralell 90% of the time and you only need to move for the up key.

>>60931725
>only need to move for the up key.
down key*

>>60915439
qsdz

jkl and ů are my arrow keys for about 60 percent of my workflow.

>>60931863
Are you using like asset or something

>>60916212
The fuck, you can do that?
Every keyboard I had with an Fn key was done in hardware.

I just use capslock+[key] for no chance of collision hotkeys.

>>60916355
>no rub out key

>>60925208
>>60925422
I use a 40% keyboard to program all day every day.
After a few minutes of practice, the superiority and benefits of not having to move from the homerow become obvious and completely quell any baseless worries about function layers.

>>60932991
I honestly agree in principle but 40% is just too small.

50% is something I'd use though (if I could get a fucking kit for not $300)

>>60934133
You think that now, but putting the numbers on the home row like >>60916355 was one of the best changes I ever made.

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Candybar is cancer. How the fuck do people stand using it?

>>60917366
I had the same terrible keyboard and thought having these keys would be awesome. They turned out to be pretty pointless. What do you use them for?