Mozilla is killing itself

who cares it's dead, let's fork chromium and make a nazi developer browser

>>60913153
>Fork Chromium again!
Fuck off you retard chromium's main issue is integral to it, the lack of actual extensions that aren't glorified scripts

Give me a chromium fork that can run an extension like tree style tabs or classic theme restorer. You can't.

Firefox has been dead since 3.5

>>60913127
I thought 2chan is text-board.

>>60913127
Who cares of your butthurt. Go Firefox, go!

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Who cares? It still shows remaining time which is all you need

>>60913436
I care. I use that information to quickly look through my downloads and find what I need every once in a while. There's no reason to remove this.

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>>60913127
Just click on "Show all download" you dumb fuck

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>>60913212
I'll have you know I literally used Firefox 4.2 the other day for lels and it was surprisingly pretty good

>tfw Moz:\\a's version bump train has just been to exploit infinite cakes from Microsoft

>>60913127
who would have thought that hiring diversity enforcers, and equality propaganda designers was a bad decision for a software company

wew

What to use instead?
Firefox is SJW oriented
Chrome is bootlicker oriented
Safari is dogshit
Last time I heard about opera was 8 years ago
What else even is there

>>60913923
palemoon, they've forked off completely from firefox, it's no longer an 'alt build'

>>60913127
What's the market share of desktop Linux?
What's the market share of Firefox on desktop Linux? (Hint: most are using Chrome/Chromium)
There's your fucking answer. Mozilla would be looking at maybe 35% of 1%. You think securing that would be a victory? It's not a relevant demographic.

>>60913945
>doesn't run on OS X

>>60913127
the performance improved significantly so I'm happy

How do I download full directories from this list of old Firefox versions?

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

>>60913963
... and?

>>60913972
have you tried copy + paste?

>>60913976
Then it's of no use

>>60913994
this thread is about getting away from faggotry
using OSX is counter-intuitive to this end

>>60914018
OSX is the ultimate redpill

When will software get rid of that version inflation thing
5.2 sounds so much less retarded than 52

>>60914055
There is no point doing semver with browsers.
Their main purpose to browse the web has to stay backwards compatible for a long time.
So you'd have shit like 1.52.0.
How is that better?

The Firefox™ project, from Mozilla© Corporation Inc. wants to "engage the least engaged"® in technology; non-whites, and non-males.

It's the opinion of Mozilla© Corporation Inc. that by "engage the least engaged"® we will capture the market segment of those people (non-whites, and non-males) who are least interested in technology, and are being oppressed by the over represented, patriarchal, "white, pale, male, stale, frail, fail" segment of the population that volunteer their time freely.

If this strategy backfires it will clearly be the result of social media attacks by "white, pale, male, stale, frail, fail" segment of the population.

54 got a pretty nice performance boost by the multiprocess electrolysis

>muh sjw

as if google and chrome isnt 500% more SJW

nice try pajeet

>>60914186
that really shouldn't be their point, it should be to be standard compliant while integrating fast evolving web technologies.
anyone who is using an old unpatched browser is just asking to get fucked.
I have nothing against rolling releases but then just drop the version number for a date string

>>60913945
it also does not get updates

>>60913473
Why wouldn't you just go to your download folder?

>>60914285
who cares just download chromium u lynooks fajjet :^)

>>60913436
It's useful if you know the size beforehand and so can tell if the download finished complete. Sometimes a file can download and be registered as completed but will show a small file size.

>>60913923
Opera and Vivaldi? Though Opera arguably is dead for many years, depending whether new Opera is carrying the legacy of old or not

Why you fags cares about Firefox being controlled by SJWs? Hell, I would use a browser made by a pedophile if the the program were actually good.

>>60913473
then just stop whinning and learn about:config you fucking retard

>>60913127
>op is a literal faggot rn

It was a CSS/lower-level change, some of it can be fixed by changing userChrome.css

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/6hef48/why_mozilla/dixwbh9/

> linking to deddit
https://archive.fo/xxV4g
https://archive.fo/xxV4g/image

Put it in your userChrome.css and shut the fuck up.

Honestly, /g/ can be so retarded.

>>60914282
>[citation needed]

The main dev checks Firefox vulnerabilities as they're discovered on the off-chance that they're relevant to Pale Moon (they're usually not)

Except for his rampaging autism (but eh, any project needs to be backed by either a corporation or an autist to get off the ground) it's not a bad browser

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>>60913945
This. Literally the best browser

>>60913963
There is an official but not really port on the forums that works great

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I run into zero problems using Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Vivaldi, Explorer, Edge, Safari... you name it

you retards can't choose what browser to use? Download more than one, they are all selling your information and they all work just fine and are free you fucking niggers

>>60916781
>they are all selling your information
Pale Meme isn't

Use Opera you mongoloids

>>60913972
wget

>>60914672
>>60915161
delete this?

>>60913963
GOOD!

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>>60913153
I'd unironically support that.

>>60913483
>just waste time looking for information that it was showing conveniently in the previous version
hmm

>>60913153
Chromium isn't edgy enough. Fork the Presto leak.

>>60915161
a symptom of a greater issue
and there will inevitably come a point where you can not restore it

i call it now give it a couple versions and you won´t be able to do that anymore

>>60913950
securing a demographic that they can realistically hold fucking that demographic while failing to get after google's so yes it would be a victory

>>60918076
>0.3% market share while being absolutely useless to the other 99.7% is a victory
Are those 0.3% going to pay a $100,000 yearly subscription for a free as in "we can't sell this because we stupidly GPL'd it" browser?

>>60913127
Ashley is my GF shes not an idiot she has a degree. And i dont mean a highschool either like you OP

>>60913190
Vivaldi

>>60918128
>he implies market-share can´t grow
the reason they are not successful with the 99.7% is not because they are not trying to.
their only choice is either death or a niche user-base they will never get the majority back from google

>>60918239
0.3% is death. They would not get any funds.

>>60918142
YOU CANNOT

>>60914229
Only if you don't use any add ons since only a handful are multiprocess compatible.

>>60915161
>stupid goy, you want your functionality back? then just fucking hack it for yourself, it's easy

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>not using Brave

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This is why you should be using Midori.

>>60913212

/thread
Firefox 4 is when they switched to the new release schedule, and decided to imitate chrome. That's when it all went tits up.

>>60919239
They switched to the rapid releases with 5

>>60919273
tomato tomato

>>60919207
When I run privacy checks on Brave they all say that its an uncommon browser so its easier to track.

Should I be concerned about this?

>>60913127
Its the only good free as in freedom browser. Aside from iceweasel, Icecat. TBB and brave.

tfw still use 17.0

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>>60913127
/g/ is making a new browser, any developer is welcome to contact the team >>60919191

>>60919311
>Should I be concerned about this?
You should, but it doesn't really matter. They track you with IP address, cookies, fonts, screen size, OS, timezone, keyboard layout etc. Things independent of your browser of choice.

>>60919317
TBB?

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>>60919356
tor browser bundle

>>60919356
Tor Browser Bundle.

>hate firefox and how they're changing it
>chromium is google piece of shit that spies on you

>>60919352
How could they track by keyboard layout, aren't all US keyboards the same plus or minus the numpad?

>>60913923
Safari is the answer, stop being a drone and try it

>>60919382
Keyboard layout by the OS. There are different layouts for every language, for some languages even multiple layouts (e.g. French). Keyboard layout and OS language can be accessed via JS. And a lot of other stuff too.

>>60919200
>advanced user
>complaining about minor css modification

>>60919412
Guess there is no defeating them then.

Since I have so many machines and often just grab/sit at whatever is closest would it throw a wrench in their plans if I use MacOs 10.12, Win 7, Mint, Devuan, Win 10 all in the space of a day?

>>60919387
Safari doesn't support internal webm playback
And for me it fucks up loading YouTube pages, constantly reloading them

>>60919437
If anything else fails, they still have your IP address, which I'm guessing you don't renew every 2 minutes.

The only real solution is Tor.

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>>60913127
What?

I'm using SeaMonkey until I can't.

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>>60919434
>complaining about minor css modification that you have to make every time the browser updates and that can break any second

Pale Moon doesn't have any of these issues. Any actual /g/ doesn't use C***** or F******.

>>60919469
OP's pic is of the toolbar button, not the downloads window

>>60919469
szyka bylat

>>60913945
This just use the pale meme. It'll save you a lot of time especially when Firefox goes full retard and kills XUL.

>>60914608
Because SJWs can't program and I get sick of being shilled diversity.

>>60919477
Thats false, even if it wasnt,
literally a <10 line python script will do it for you every time

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>>60913483
.webm

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just hover over it
or do what you should be doing and hit ctrl j
or if your autisim is really flaring up edit the css

fucking hell is this just one guy constantly making firefox shitposting threads

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>>60919490
Ah, get it

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> TFW still waiting for Manjaro to give me the update

Come on! I want less confusing information! Only fucking nerds know what a KB is anyway.

Wait so is pale moon as good as firefox


Pls respond

>>60920398
Not in my experience, but only because some addons didn't work for me that I use frequently. It's been a couple years though, so that could have improved.

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>>60913127
Trying to get millennial SJWs to improve their software is like talking a man in a vegetative state from a mile away.

The women especially, they are very adverse to any criticism or suggestion that differs from what they've done already even things that are already on their roadmap. They'll respond with derision and contempt for even the most politely phrased criticism.

One cunt I had to work with broke down into tears over someone else having a different opinion and about what a good product would look like. The cunted badmouthed the woman later a ton and simply refused my suggestions to empathize with her side of the story, she had genuine concerns that most people would agree with but this manchild was too fucking emotionally stunted.


Trust me, fork FireFox. You're more likely to convince every black person to pay their alimony than to convice even a single SJW developer.

>>60913127
>firefox 54 requires pulseaudio
Firefox is dead.

>>60920398
Works fine for me.

>>60920470
Which ones? All the important ones work for me although in some cases you may have to install old versions.

>>60920500
The most annoying one I remember is userscripts in GreaseMonkey being flat-out ignored. The thing that made me eventually go back to Firefox was more consistent flash playback. YouTube and other big sites worked fine, but sites with the crappier players were a gamble on Pale Moon for me.

And I know, flash should be dead by now, but many of us know the sites that still refuse to update.

>>60920594
I've never had any issues with Greasemonkey. For me, flash was shit in vanilla firefox too, so on the rare occasion I need it, I just use chromium.

>>60920622
Chromium & Chrome do have the best implementation of Flash at this point for sure. I use Chromium as a fallback if a site doesn't load right in any other browser. Firefox for everything else though because of very specific addons.

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Microsoft Edge :^)

>>60913493
Does Microsoft still send them cakes?

thanks for recommending pale moon, seems to work with everything i needed .

>>60913190
>muh extensions

name one (1) necessary extension that's not placebo shit. you literally can't.

>>60921028
tree style tabs

>>60921047
I said necessary, dumb fuck.

>>60921109
I can't browse without good, vertical tabs.

>>60921117
Good thing is coming as a native Firefox feature, then.

>>60921147
What? Mozilla is adding a useful feature to firefox?

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>>60920814

>>60920814
>ublock origin on Edge
Explain this wizardy

>>60913923
There's mosaic and Maxthon. Remember those?

>>60913923
Safari is the best and fastest browser, which is why Google forked and ruined it

>>60913153
Why not fork Firefox instead? Just make your own Palemoon.

>>60916781
oh no, turbo autist supreme doens't like my browser

what can I do to appease lord turbo autist Barron?!

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>>60913127

Mozilla employee in the reddit thread about this:

these fucking SJW lefties are oblivious as to why they are losing users. I'm okay with FireFox dying in 3 years.

>>60913436
Are you downloading Gentoo? kek

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>>60913436
Palemoon displays the same information as your screenshot. Though when it is finished it shows the domain the download originated from.
>>60923266
There is only one thing better to download on the entire internet.

>>60913963
i'm using it on snow leopard, so far so good.

>>60921190
Blasphemy!

>>60919477
Judging from how the Mozilla employee described it in the reddit thread the userchrome.css file basically over laps what Mozilla inputs and does not change with version change .

>>60920499

USE="-pulseaudio" emerge =www-client/firefox-54.0

doesn't this work?

>>60913127
cyka blyat

>>60913127
someone should fork firefox :^)

>>60923393
not sure if that's sarcastic or not

>>60923403
It's the carrot nose, it has to be sarcastic.

>>60923244
Jesus christ. This is like youtube changing their site periodically for no reason and making it worse. You couldn't even close the chat box for streams in one of the versions

>>60923403
I am aware that forks already exist but I feel bad about running code from a smaller project because I don't entirely trust them
It's easier with mozilla because if they deliberately packaged malware with firefox they'd go out of business overnight, so they actually have something to lose
I'm also concerned about the forks getting security updates in time

>>60913923
Does developer edition gets affected? It was always superior to simple firefox

>>60919343
MAKE FIREFOX GREAT AGAIN

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>>60913127
??

>>60921028
Vimperator you dumb fuck, how the fuck can I delete tab with pressing "d" key on chrome botnets?

>>60923244
I guess I'll just have to get used to Edge

>>60913275
It's an image board.
And 2ch (aka 2channel) is not 2chan.

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>>60915161
Thanks.

>>60923345
>snow leopard

I miss those days, the last good os x release

>>60913473
What if they tested it with a 100 users and found that it is confusing for 70 of them. It would make sense to remove it.
You have to remember they are making this for the wider audience, not for specific users.

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>>60913923

Chrome if you're not a contrarian faggot on /g/ who has to distinguish himself by his web browser

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Yes goy keep updating your browser, it's getting better and better!

>>60923789
and vimperator is going to die once v57 hits. At best firefox will get a slightly-less-bad version of vimium :-(

There used to be something of a cottage industry of vim-like browsers -- dwb, uzbl, luakit, jumanji, xxxterm, qutebrowser, ... -- but the one that I actually really liked (luakit. when I was actually using it, it was basically a better vimperator: more stable, and faster, but vimperator and ff have since improved) is bitrotted.

Googbots working overtime shitting on BestFox. How about that fucking download bar on cuckium that pops up every time you download something and stays there, and how about the time that they disabled the twiddle to disable it? HOW ABOUT THAT CHROMEKEKS?

>using a web browser as a file downloader
idiots!

>>60913190
So never dealt with. Isn't there a lot of headless browsers around. Like in nodeshit and such. Couldn't you just completed remove the interface and write your own with HTML5+CSS+JavaScript.

I mean isn't that what those shitty
>Write a desktop app in HTML5+CSS+JavaScript

Do

>>60924703
>Do

>tfw when chrome crashed while posting xD

>>60923789
There's Vimium and another similar extension whose name I can't recall at the moment. They don't (and can't) overhaul the browser the way Vimperator does but they're not bad.

Fucking Firefox 54 is pulling in Rust now as a dependency FUCK.

>>60920499
>>60923373
I'm on Gentoo using ALSA with -pulseaudio flag, about to upgrade, will report if audio breaks.

>>60923804
But 2ch.sc is parser of 2ch.net, is there images anywhere? Point me to this, please.

The new firefox is pretty okay

I really like reader view for pages.

Rust is an interesting language

the mozilla web dev training site is fantastic

you guys need to calm the fuck down

>>60924561
luakit has been brought back recently: https://luakit.github.io/

qutebrowser/vimb/uzbl are also still or again active.

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also this thing used to tell you the remaining time..


wtf

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Mozilla shot themselves in the foot for not keeping up with the times while chrome was excelling. Personally, I stopped using Firefox after they updated it with some webcam client and other useless shit, while barely fixing performance. Mozilla also fucked up by proudly stating that they were going to refuse to have a Firefox app on iOS because of some drama with Apple; Which only made Chrome more appealing.

>>60926282
>Mozilla also fucked up by proudly stating that they were going to refuse to have a Firefox app on iOS because of some drama with Apple; Which only made Chrome more appealing.
Mozilla refused to support iOS because Apple refuses to allow browser engines aside from webkit. If Mozilla made a browser for iOS it would be a rebranded Safari (like Chrome). They actually eventually did make a browser for iOS though so that's all irrelevant now.

>>60921461
ublock-edge

>>60923437
You can close anything on youtube with adblockplus and element hiding helper.

This is why I just disable updates

>>60925235
I wouldn't mind reader view as much if it wasn't a persistent part of the url bar on a lot of websites. It should be like any other button, put it in the toolbar. The current position is too close to the reload/stop button which makes it easy to slip up and click it by accident, especially on firefox mobile.

>>60915161
>linking to deddit
It was actually first posted here in a different thread.
Notice that the reddit post is a throwaway account.

>>60926555
Also I don't really use it so being able to remove it from the main interface would be nice.

>>60923760
kys

>>60925121
Keybindings isn't even working right now properly because of limited webextensions.

>>60914055
Ubuntu is the only one doing it right.

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS means Ubuntu from 2016 and the 4th month, so april 16 it was released.

>>60920476
I don't get it, which person badmouthed which?

>>60924561
>and vimperator is going to die once v57 hits
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60921533
>no webm support, ever
>no Netflix external display support
>no facebook videochat (seriously?)
>no decent adblocker

>source a mbp user

>>60914427
What? I've been using Opera for the last few months and it werks pretty well. They just added a built in dark theme for menu bar, which is pretty rad.

Don't worry guys, Qutebrowser will be ready any minute now

>>60920499
>>60923373
>>60925167
Ok I'm on 54 now without Pulse and audio is confirmed working.

>>60913153
> nazi developer browser

why is everything that is not pro SJW always "nazi ..." ...... wtf is wrong in this world?

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I hope you're ready for what's next.

>>60929095
WAT?

>>60928108
Hmm... I guess that doesn't work with firefox-bin? It broke with firefox-bin-52, so I started compiling with USE=jack.

>>60929182
USE flags don't affect prebuilt binaries, by definition

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They thought it would be a good idea to fuse the settings in less categories, so now you spend most of the time scrolling in the settings.
Also you can't put an addon's button in the menu.
The "Forward" button is always visible, even when you can't go forward.
The Reload button is outside of the URL bar, and instead you have a menu to Bookmark, Send via Email, Copy URL, or Send to a Device.

>>60929264
firefox-bin does have USE flags, just a lot less of them.

>>60929095
Of course I'm ready. The current menu is horrible and I welcome this change.
As for the icons you added next to forward/back I don't care because I remove them all anyway.

>>60929264
There's apulse which is enabled by a useflag for skype.

Silly question...
I still use the 53 build, what performance test can I use to check if the 54 is actually faster or if it is just a meme?

>>60929337
>implying that picture is any better

>>60929389
why would you want to change if you cant even tell the difference from user experience?

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>>60929696
You need help if you think otherwise.
The new one looks like a proper normal menu.

>>60919225
>GTK trash
go away.

>>60929707
I guess I am going to change eventually, I would just like to know what I could possible do to notice any improvements.

>>60929753
Firefox uses GTK as well retard.

>>60929389
I don't know what's included in 54 because I'm using Nightly but there have definitely been some large improvements lately.
For example by 200 tabs session now takes 1 instead of 10 seconds to restore.

As long as you aren't using incompatible addons you should notice a difference in responsiveness as well.

>>60929801
Only in linux, and even then their own XUL toolkit is doing most of the job. Nor does it conform to GNOME3's retarded standards.

>>60929892
Firefox is only using Gnome for its advanced file picker.

>>60929912
GTK*

Palemoon or Waterfox ?

>>60929095
The new menu looks really good. I've hated the current menu since Mozilla decided to cram it in my face. One thing that really bothered me about it is how the menu icon doesn't even properly represent what the menu is. The icon shows a dropdown like the left but it's a bunch of ugly tiled icons instead

>>60929942
Palemoon

>>60914319
>>60920814
>>60923393
>using the smiley with a carat nose