/pcbg/ - PC Building General

First for 7700k is better than the 1700x and only shills think otherwise.

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CPU Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. Intel Pentium G4560 - $75+
>2. AMD Ryzen 5 1500x - $190+
>3. AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - $210+
>4. AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - $300+


Memory Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. 8GB (4x2) DDR4 2133mhz or 2400mhz $60+
>2. 16GB (8x2) DDR4 2133mhz - 3200mhz $120+


Storage Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. Any 2.5" 256GB Minimum SSD that fits your budget $90+


Video Card Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. NVIDIA GT 1030 - $70+
>2. NVIDIA GTX 1050 TI - $125+
>3. AMD RX 580 4GB - $205+
>4. NVIDIA GTX 1070 - $375+


Go with a Micro ATX Motherboard unless you need the additional PCI-E lanes and accessories that an ATX motherboard has.

Plan on overclocking? Get an aftermarket CPU Cooler.

Go with a Micro ATX Case if you chose a Micro ATX Motherboard. Go with an ATX Case if you chose an ATX Case.

Get a minimum Bronze Certified PSU. Get a modular PSU if you have a windowed Case and/or the Case has poor airflow.

>>60906481
Third for 7700K >>> 1700X

>>60906512
>AMD RX 580 4GB - $205+
>Recommending something no one can buy
Sugoi

5th for triggered AMD shills

>>60906512
>2. AMD Ryzen 5 1500x - $190
Nope, leave that blank until Raven Ridge comes out
>3. AMD RX 580 4GB - $205+
That doesn't exist, only the GTX 1060 comes in at ~$200

Is there any difference between an M.2 SSD and a regular SSD?

>>60906512
>AMD RX 580 4GB

when is the release date for this?

>>60906481
posted before the bump limit

REAL THREAD
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>>60906612
Depends on usage.
Boot drive? None.

>Last thread spoiled by a AMD shitter
>This one is going to be ruined by thread wars
This is why we can't have nice things

>>60906612
That depends
M+B keyed M.2s are SATA-based, so they're exactly the same as SATA SSDs, except they take up 2 SATA ports rather than just one.
M-keyed M.2s are normally NVMe-based, so they're not only significantly faster than SATA SSDs, but they can also perform parallel reads or writes (like a SAS or SCSI drive). They also cost about twice the price per GB.

>>60906571

pleb here with innocent question, was looking at 1500x

how does Raven Ridge affect 1500x purchases? Google says it will be a line of laptop CPUs

>>60906652
because this one was second you autistic intel shill

REAL THREAD
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>>60906463
>>60906463

>>60906678
Raven Ridge will also be coming to the desktop.
Because they're only using one CCX in their APU, expect more consistent performance out of them over the Ryzen 3s and 1400/1500X. The Athlon X4 versions should be super cheap too, basically 1400s but with a smaller L3 cache.

I hear that they're also going to be on improved 14mm nodes (14mm+, according to GloFo's slides), so they might even have higher overclocking potential (or just lower power usage overall).

>>60906702
fuck off shill

>>60906526
Serval you are dumb go back to /a/.

>>60906798
Tell me where can i purchase some of this legendary 580 cards?

>>60906814
On the internet.

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>>60906785
t. brian "just fuck my company up" krzanich
cant wait for the government to bail out this failure of a ceo

>>60906658
Specifically speaking Samsung 960 Evo m.2

>>60906828
pleased to linking me sir i would like to purchase for the game

>>60906828
>580 cost as much as a 1070 currently
>or 580 are out of stock everywhere else
Praise the lord

>>60906854
That's an NVMe drive, but it uses 3D-NAND TLC, which means that depending on the capacity, it's sustained writes speeds can be as low as a SATA SSD. It's advertised write speed are with the faux-SLC cache in play, which is limited to about 8-32GB in total. Read speeds are as advertised, since all TLC suffer from lower write speeds.

>>60906862
>Check ebay
Wow. You aren't kidding. FFS.

>>60906859
>>60906862
If it costs that much why would the miners buy it? Just because you looked at it once and it was sold out, it's not non existent.

>>60906887
Thanks for the info buddy

Assist me. Im working with an i5 3570k @4ghz. Should i consider upgrading? I've also got a 1060. fyi i haven't applied new thermal paste in over 5 years.

>>60906983

>>60906463
>>60906463

>>60906716

thx for the insight. although the specifics of the technical jargon are lost on me, you made it clear enough in layman's terms

time will tell whether that will deliver; maybe they do with Raven Ridge to the 1400/1500X what Intel did with the G4560 to the i3s.

>>60906915
>out of stock everywhere
>amd has no intentions of producing more until after vega release

wow such a viable choice for my gpu purchase

>>60906983
No reason to upgrade unless you are doing something very CPU intensive.

how the fuck do i release strain on my mb connections? front panel usb port is in sideways because the cable is so thick it just drags itself down
20pin mb power is also plugged in half sideways because the fucking hdd cage blocks it

>>60907023
Get better a better case

>>60906998
>maybe they do with Raven Ridge to the 1400/1500X what Intel did with the G4560 to the i3s.
Well, with a smaller L3 cache, the Raven Ridge APUs won't be as good as the Ryzen 3s and 5s, much like how the Athlon IIs weren't as good as the Phenom IIs back in the day. I'll expect weaker multi-threaded performance over anything else though, since SMT and HT seem to rely heavily on sharing L3 cache usage to make the best out of shared resources.

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>>60907061
but its the only non gaymer shit case i could find

>>60907104
?
Did you buy a shit case on purpose? Then why are you surprised it's shit?

My drive just died,wont detect and made alot of clicking noises before it offed itself. Can i do anything for data recovery or fuck it? Not willing to spend alot of money.

>>60907112
he probably has an old case that he inherited from the family PC

>>60907116
put it in an anti-static bag with a packet of desiccant and then shove the thing in a freezer for half a day
plug it back in and copy your most important files first

>>60907116
Is there anything worth saving from the drive? Data recovery is possible but expensive.

>>60907112
so all good cases have 50 leds, got it

>>60907141
and put some rice on it too

>>60907158
Get a mastercase, pleb.

>>60907177
And the seasoning

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i7 770k
msi krait z720
8gb ddr4 2144
NZXT H440
noctua nh-d14
nvidia gtx 1070 founders edition
seasonic m12II 620w

>>60907339
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3

>>60907339
>FE
Don't

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>>60906481
Reposting because last thread died:

Does anyone have advice on what I should upgrade for better /vg/ performance?

Graphics card only, or should I get a new CPU to avoid bottle-necking? This would probably make it necessary to get a new motherboard + ddr4 ram as well, as I'm running an FX-6300 (AM3+ socket).

>tfw poorfag

>>60907177
Is this serious?

>>60906481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ssad0qZuU

>>60907143
Not really just some anime, it would be very convnient to have back

>>60907485
Leave it

>>60907435
Not necessarily, you could always find a different AM3+ socket CPU used. Get it second hand, and you'll save some cash

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Just bought this literally 5 minutes ago

>>60907537
>i7
why?

>>60907537
why so beefy cpu with little babby gpu?

>>60907537
>top end gaming cpu with bottom end gpu
I hope you're joking.

>>60907189
>paying huge inflated prices for a metal box

>>60907552
>>60907557
>>60907559

I don't game. Only use photoshop and such. I probably could of went $100 cheaper on the cpu but whatever.

Ok guy. Can you suggest me a case with:
>white/blue color scheme theme
>1 5.25" drive bay or more
>PSU basement
>rubber grommets
>decent cable management

So far, looking at a Corsair Spec Alpha, but it doesn't hit all my marks so I want alternatives.

my list
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hX4NwV
budget around $600
any suggestions?

1700 or 1600x for gaymes and light editing?

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>>60907581
forget my pic. sorry

>>60907576
No. The problem isn't that you overspent on the CPU. It's that you bought the WRONG CPU.
Fuck Intel and their money-grubbing ways. You could get an AMD Ryzen 7 1700 and have a better overall processor, especially for editing. Editing programs love more cores and more threads. The i7 7700k is ONLY worth it if the ONLY thing you ever do is game at 144 FPS.

>>60907576
>Only photoshop
>i7
What?

>>60907567
Enjoy your shit case then.

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>Editing programs love more cores and more threads
>Being this retarded

90% of all operations, even in programs like autodesk or premiere, that actually utilize multi-threading, are single threaded.

And then lets not forget that 99% of all programs don't even support multi-threading

I know you guys want AMD to not be so shit but don't delude yourself. This "get the 1700" shit is all over reddit I assumed /g/ wasn't as retarded.

Did i do good lads?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n7wDsJ

>>60907649
>I assumed /g/ wasn't as retarded.
You must have missed the last thread.

>>60907683
>1400

>>60907649
>multithreaded operations are single threaded

I'm getting to the point where I have a bunch of HDD's. What's the best way to store them? NAS and such are overkill since I have no intention of using them for network purposes.

>>60907725
conglomerate them on a single large HDD.

>>60907725
One of these.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1B0-0003-000F8
Keep the rest in a static container and swap them in and out when you need them.

>>60907696
what's wrong with 1400

>>60907649
>99% of programs don't use multi-threading

Sure, if you include outdated legacy programs.
Get with the times gramps, every software company is implementing multiple core and multiple threading in their updated products.

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>>60907750
I really don't want my HDD's exposed like that though. Plus I'm going to need way more than 4-bays.

I have 20 HDD's. I'm guessing a server rackmount would do the job, but it just seems so unfitting since I'm not using it for server purposes.

>>60907754
The cheap intel pentiums are better

>>60907754
It has half the cache of the 1500X, and nowhere near the performance of the 6 core, 12 thread, 1600. The 1600 is the golden chip of the line up with value for money, especially when you consider the amount of money you pay per core.
1400: $40
1500X: $47
1600: $36.67
1600X: $41.67

>>60907776
No they aren't. Stop spreading lies to make yourself feel better about your poverty-tier G4560

>>60907590
i9
What a dumb question.

>>60907774
>20 HDD
That is out of consumer range and into enterprise/server solutions.

>>60907808
Those are Ryzen chips you dumbass.

>>60907590
1600.

>>60907809
Figured as much.
Guess I have no choice.

>>60907808
How much liquid nitrogen do you need per month to OC that not!xeon to acceptable levels of frequency?

>>60907776
>Entry 2/4 processor better than mid level 4/8 processor
Really primes my L2 caches.

>>60907754
Just get a 1500X. It is like $20 more with better performance and higher clock speeds.

>>60907793
it depends. First I agree 1600 is the deal for ryzen 5, but in 4c/8t, 1500x is not that much better. Yes, half the L3 cache, but won't affect performance by a large margin, also the stealth cooler is not bad either. so you were looking at about 11% increase in price in exchange for maybe 5 to 7 percent in performance. 1400 is better than 1500x, and even if you want to go for 1500x, then just spend $30 more and go ahead get 1600 instead. There is really no point to get x version in any case whatsever, unless you just want to skip overclock.

>>60907831
In that case is anyone experienced on server cabinets? I was thinking of going 24U. I just need details on which brand/types to look for.

24U means 3x 4U rackmounts should be able to fit.

>>60907898
here >>60907923
if you can spend $20 more why not just spend $30 on top of it to get 6c/12t 1600? 1400 is for poor fags who don't want to get a fucking 2c/2t pentinum g4560 in 20 fucking 17 and with less money to get a 4c/8t processor that are better than unclocked i5, even some i7s.

>>60907951
>fucking 2c/2t pentinum g4560
I meant 2c/4t

>>60907951
Different countries I guess. Here the 1500x is about 15$ more than the 1400 or even less while the 1600 is about 50 on top of that.

>>60907696
>>60907696
I'm on a tight budget here lad you know

Anyways you think i should go for it? I'll worry about the case and stuff later

Also that fucking motherboard was the only one still in stock at their warehouse lel, there doesn't seem to be any big difference to the other MSI b350 boards except this one isn't being advertised as a gaymen one

>>60907951
I am assuming he is a massive jew. Yes, a 1600 or 1600X is the best value, but there is never a good reason ever to get a 1400 over a 1500X. 1600 is best for the money.

>>60908101
1600 is the best value, which I think everyone agrees but my point is that's not for everyone. between 1400 and 1500x, there is no point to spend extra when you could just overclock or ignore the minor performance difference on L3 cache. If you want to spend, just get 1600.

Should I get a Anti-Static Wristband or am I good? Am I better off getting some gloves?

>>60908257
Just ground yourself

>>60908257
don't fall for the antistatic jew. just stand on a chair and do it with your barehand. nothing will go wrong.

>>60908041
That 50 dollars extra is worth it.

>>60908278
I have carpet.
it's a real shitty situation.

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>>60908292
Time to buy and invest in one of these

>>60907577
bump

So second attempt
This https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zw8PTH plus a dozen 5 1600x still virgin computer builder but can anyone think of a way for this rp go wrong/ think of better parts I could use that don't cost more?

>>60908407
Ryzen not dozen

>>60908407
Not criticism, but question. Why an A320 chipset board? The reason everyone goes for a B350 is because ALL the Ryzen chips are overclockable and the B350 boards are the cheapest ones to facilitate it.
If you don't ever plan to overclock or crossfire GPUs, the A320 is ok.

Now to suggestions:
Spend more for a case with actual cable management and USB 3.0 ports. That said, I like how that case LOOKS.
Spend more on the power supplu. You want something semi modular or fully modular with black cables, especially with a windowed case.
Why a GTX 1080? That is supreme overkill. A 1060 6GB , RX570, or RX580, if you cn find them at a decent price, are better choices for the average gamer.
As to a CPU, we heavily recommend the 1600.

>>60908407

$1100 Ryzen 5 1600
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

>>60908514
>>60908538
To who ever wow the first, would you suggest the second build over mine?

>>60908257
>he fell for the static meme

>>60908563

So the Ryzen 5 1600 is the best $/performance Ryzen CPU available at this time.

The GeForce GTX 1060 6GB will not perform as well as the GeForce GTX 1080, but is a much better choice for $/performance.

16GB of DDR4-3200mhz will take full advantage of the B350 PC Mate motherboard.

Today's SSDs are better in every way than a conventional HDD. They perform faster, will last longer, and be more reliable than a 7200rpm drive. We can spend the money from the GTX 1060 6GB on a 512GB SSD that will run circles around an HDD.

The powersupply I selected is modular, so you can remove unnecessary cables since I selected a windowed case. I also went with an NZXT CPU Cooler for overclocking and for appearance.

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Thoughts?
This is everything aside from OS and monitor. I plan on windows 10 with either a virtual ubuntu or virtual kali linux. Better sound might come along later.

>>60908514
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QnFCWX
No intention to overclock, is this good?

>>60908634

My build recommendation using the Ryzen 5 1600

$1100 Ryzen 5 1600
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

>>60908611
Oh ok, thanks, is there room to add another get a hard drive just for storage?

>>60908647
Yes sir.

>>60908651
Welp time to pull out the credit card, I have no idea what I'm doing, is there a guide on overclocking you recommend?

>>60908635
change the case to one with USB 3.0 ports. I'll recommend a Corsair Carbide Spec 01, Spec 02, Spec 03, or Spec 04. All around the same price, with different looks, and USB 3.0

Of course, if you have no intention of using the 5.25" drive bays, I'd look at something without them. The black/blue NZXT S340 is currently on sale for like $50.
Also, the power supply is overkill, no matter how nice it is. Seasonic has great 520W fully modular PSU around $50

>>60908668

Well I'm not an overclocker myself. There are several good guides on youtube, even ones that would use some of the same parts I listed.

Feel free to investigate some video tutorials to get more comfortable.

If anything you don't have to overclock, you could use the stock cooler and save $150.

>>60908668
Don't bother overclocking the first time around, first get the build up and running, and then think about overclocking.

>>60908683
I was literally about to ask if I could do that

>>60908696

I think that's a smart decision!

>>60908678
I'm going with the suggested build I think, skipping out on the liquid cooling for the stock, since I don't plan to overclock

So I just want to say thanks to everybody for the help and advice

>>60908643
Well thanks for the recommendations but any thoughts on my build? I don't plan on overclocking so the after market cooler seems kinda moot, especially a liquid one. I went with the samsung for reliability and the case is intetionally cheap because i plan on sticking under my desk and not looking at it while it still has the usbs and extension slots i want

>>60908703
>>60908683
Also why not the 1600x?

>>60908734

You can drop the CPU Cooler and just go with stock for sure.

There really aren't any "bad" SSD brands anymore, picking the best $/gb isn't a problem.

Cheap case is just fine, and if you're going with a windowless case that has plenty of space; you don't need to have a modular power supply.

>>60908739
Ryzen 5 1600 is currently the best $/performance Ryzen processor. The 1600X is not a big jump from the 1600.

>>60908760
So it's just not worth the extra 30 $

>>60908773
IMO, no.

>>60908739
The 1600X does not come with a cooler, and is binned better so it can overclock better. It's not a bad processor, it's just bad value compared to the 1600

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Should I get a 1080ti?

>>60908905

I'd recommend a GTX 1070. It's a considerable jump from the 970.

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Any suggestions on what to upgrade??

>>60908997
motherboard, ram and cpu

>>60908997

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/8wsTWZ

I factored in your GTX 1050 Ti, you can subtract the cost of that.

>>60907204
>>60907177
Is this to attract the Asians to fix his shit???

Guys I have £500 right now and i wanna buy something useful before I blow it all on anime dolls

I have all the prehi...phreals? damn i hate spelling

So I want a case, processor, cooling block, mobo, 8gb of ram (will double it at a future date... this is an ultra budget build afterall, hdd, and PSU (graphics card is again something that can wait till a future date.

Ideally I want to exclusivly use amazon or ebay because they have pickup places and my housemates are all crackheads.

where do i begin?

>>60909039

Let me fix a build together using £.

>>60907537
You should ask here before buying retard, enjoy your buyers remorse.
>Shitty SanDisk SSD Plus
>Bottom of the barrel GPU paired with a 7700k, which is only worth it when gaming, a non gaming build only needs a Ryzen
>450W PSU with an i7 7700k, no room for a decent GPU
I hope this is bait

>>60909051

nice one brother.

>>60907581
>>60907592
Get Samsung EVO SSD or PNY, Sandisk are shitty, rest is good.

>>60909039

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

You do not need more than 8GB of memory using this processor. If you do decide to upgrade memory in the future; this board only has two memory slots; you'll have to upgrade all of your memory at the same time (Which is smart to do.) and the intel chipset doesn't support quad-channel memory anyway.

>>60909076

Let me pick you a different PSU, that's an American one.

>>60909076

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2W4NnQ/xfx-power-supply-p1400bxtfr

Here's a good corresponding PSU.

>>60909096

nice post number

Thanks, the whole thing comes in under £400 that's amazing.I could even get a 1050ti in there.

Thanks for the effort anon

>>60909161

No problem!

>>60909039
>>60909076
nice. I've just built a similar setup last week (but with RX460) and imho it's a really good value build. Also no need to wait since most stores do have the parts in stock.

>>60907576
Why did you get a gaming CPU for photo shop? That's like using a scalpel for cooking

>>60909096
Diablotek is the best PSU.
Everyone should get one.

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>>60909799
List didn't post.

Various builds for various price ranges. Does not include OS, CD Drive, Mouse/Keyboard or Monitor.
Optimized for cpu overclocking (if applicable)

$390
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

$450
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/zVNt6h

$930
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/8wsTWZ

$1150
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

$1510
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/t3TK8d

$1990
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/64b3CJ

>>60906512
Recommending the 1050 Ti hahaha.

>NVIDIA GTX 1070 - $375+
>$375+
Hahahaha.

>>60909813
>Liquid Cooler
>For a locked CPU
>450W
>1070

Please stop posting before someone actually falls for your shitty builds.

>>60909867
You're retarded. he doesn't recommend a liquid cooler for a locked CPU.
EVERY SINGLE RYZEN CPU is unlocked and overclockable.
>but the X-variants-
are better binned and better at overclocking, but non-X variants can still overclock.

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>>60909867
All Ryzen CPUs are overclockable, which will benefit from a watercooled solution.

Don't make bad posts in a thread where money is involved.

I'm a retard edition: Never built a rig before. Currently running on an ancient 950 and Fx-8320. This is the build I'm looking to put together - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BVfZ8

I don't care much for 4k, mainly 1080 or 1440 if I can find a deal on a monitor. Mostly looking to proof myself for a couple years then hopefully only replace the GPU. Do I need more cooling? Did I fuck up on choosing something shitty?

>>60909882
>All Ryzen CPUs are overclockable, which will benefit from a watercooled solution.
Good luck overclocking with a 450W PSU and a 1070.

>>60909891

Hey, I replied to your post earlier but didn't get to see the list.

The 7700K is a poor $/performance chip. For the money you are wanting to spend on your build here, I recommend >https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

>>60909896
i have hawaii and ivy on a 550, I'm sure it will be fine. I used a corsair cx500 in an emergency, worked fine.

>>60909848
It's the only GPU you can actually buy in that price range.

Want to spend around 800-900€ on cpu, Mobo, GPU and RAM. Maybe even an air cooler if ryzen stock is not enough.

The problem is I can't fucking decide which ryzen and mobo should I choose. Any advice? I suppose a RX 580 8gb should work fine.

Main purpose is updating PC to stay fine for at least 5 years. I'm not a gayman but I'll play some games (1080 on high, i don't give a fuck about 4k). Apart from that I will be using the PC for processing access and Excel sheets and a little AutoCAD.

What would be the minimum budget for a1080p/60fps? Mostly played for FFXIV, pubg, ps2/wii emulation and Mount and blade. Mostly games that are not really gpu/cpu intensive.

>>60909882
You probably need to go back to l eddit if you'd like to make a name for yourself avatar fagging with dog pictures. This is 4chan.

>>60909905
I'm literally tech retarded when it comes to specs. I thought the ryzen cpus were generally less well regarded when it comes to gaming? Also why liquid cooling?

>>60909958

They perform on-par with current Kaby Lake CPUs but for considerably less money.

All Ryzen CPUs are overclockable, so I featured water cooling to take advantage of that.

>>60909983
Water cooling is only required when you hit thermal wall when overclocking. Most people won't even come near that unless they viciously over volt. So long as they have a good air cooler there is no need for a liquid cooler. You are never going to be in a situation where a liquid cooler is better than a air cooler especially with those psus you recommended.

>>60910015

Water cooling will assist in keeping the temperatures in a comfortable zone instead of ever getting close to a thermal wall.

>You are never going to be in a situation where a liquid cooler is better than a air cooler especially with those psus you recommended.

??

>>60909958
Ryzen is worse at gaming, but the difference is minimal, and you'll NEVER notice. Ryzen is better at literally everything else.

>>60910035
Are you implying that an air cooler won't? That's retarded. Please go educate yourself on overclocking and temperatures.

>>60910058
Words that I have not said for $500, Alex.

what are some good bigbrand prebuilts for around 600 bucks

>>60910113
Don't buy a prebuilt.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/zVNt6h

>>60910075
You only ever need a liquid cooler if you are pushing overclocking limits. Liquid coolers are more expensive and noisier. Only morons recommend liquid cooler to people not looking to extreme overclock. Much less a cpu binned at a lower grade.

>>60910122
those stores are not in my country, and im too technologically illiterate to build it mhself

>>60910139
Then why are you in a thread called pc build general you moron

>>60910139

Specify your country so I can get the correct pricing.

After I get the list made, order the parts and look up youtube videos on how to assemble the parts.

>>60910154
look im not going to assemble it. Im a dutchfag

>>60910198
If you are not going to assemble it why are you here? Does this thread read pre-built pc general? Seriously do you smoke so much weed or dropped too much acid that you are now retarded?

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>>60910239
take your meds lad, no reason to get worked up

i have a gtx 1070 and want to use it on a new 4k tv i'll be getting. is hdr 10bit really worth the massive price mark-up over hdr 8bit and can my 1070 fully support it?

Friends old FM1 AMD mainboard and its incredibly hard to find a replacement here
the only thinks he does with his computer is playing csgo on low settings and dota2, some light desktop work and browsing anyways.
was thinking of recommending him the pentium G4560, will it suffice?

I want to setup a webserver for a simple webpage, nothing to special, just a html page with maybe some pictures or so.
Is a single board computer enough for this or do I need something more powerful? Also if it is enough, what can you recommend me?
bls respond

Implying the budget is sort of limited and is the person is ONLY aiming for 1080p60hz, wouldn't a G4560 build with a 1060 6GB (for 200 bucks) be plenty enough?
I've watched many benchmarks, notably the one from HardwareUnboxed which goes into details about the G4560 [YouTube] Pentium G4560: The Ultimate Gaming Benchmark Guide (embed) and that CPU is pretty much running everything fine to OK with the 1060... but in ULTRA settings. I think it'd be easy tone down some settings here and there to medium-high and reach 60+ FPS easily for all of these games (if that's not already the case in ultra).

I know an R5 1400 would be better but it'd also be more expensive, something like 100 to 150 more bucks or so. The question is whether these 100 to 150 bucks are worth investing or not. Help me put this into perspective please.

>GTX 760, 50-100€ (used, from a friend)
>GTX 1050ti (200€, new)
which one would you pick?

>>60911602
>wouldn't a G4560 build with a 1060 6GB (for 200 bucks) be plenty enough?
It depends on the games you play. You look up the recommended specs for the most demanding game you play, and build your PC around that.
That's what I'm doing. The most demanding game I play is Forza Horizon 3, which requires an i5 in the minimum specs. My original build plan had an i5 7500, then Ryzen 5 came out, Now my build plan centers around an R5 1600, which is more than I'll ever need. gathering parts slowly, and I can't finish gathering parts until there's stock of RX cards or Vega comes out, so I'm kinda stuck until I can get all the parts.
The only other demanding game I play is Cities Skylines, which is pretty damned CPU intensive so the 6 cores and 12 threads helps.

>>60911730
The 1050Ti

>>60910264
Not that anon but you are already in the best place to start BUILDING your PC.

There are many advantages to it and kids do it normally. Just tell us what you intend to do wih the Pc, your budget and we will help you out.

>>60911998
Yeah I think I'll take it slowly and wait for sales for the parts I want. So far I bought the SSD since it was on sale for a good price and the PSU.

I'd like to go Ryzen but I won't hide it I'm anxious about the BIOS RAM bullshit thing, and the fact that it's more expensive than a Pentium build. Also Ryzen having no iGPU is seriously annoying as I cannot boot the thing without having bought/received a GPU (which would've been nice to wait out for a RX or something). I have an Intel PC myself I built not long ago and we can at least appreciate that at least with Intel things just work™ (that one is for something I'm building for someone else).

>>60912118
Well, most of the problems with Ryzen are solved by now. When the boards first came out my ram only got to 2133(from 3000)

Now those issues are solved, and they will keep improving over time. That happens when a new architecture is launched.

I have a 1700 working flawlessly and fully recommend the Ryzen processors.

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>>60906512

> Recommends AMD for high end CPU.

>>60912263
oh look. An nvidia shill that can't admit the 1060 is shit...
moving on...

ASRock AB350M mATX for 88 bucks is a good deal, isn't it?

>>60912400
it's an average deal on a decent motherboard.

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>>60912290
>CPU
>Nvidia

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which is the best one out of all these. price/perf wise and overclocking wise.

>>60912263
That's cute. You think the i7 is worth something.

>>60912441
Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB. It'd be better if you got the Nitro or the Nitro+ over the Pulse though.

>>60912460

i7?

I wasn't talking about an i5.

What do you need that i3 for?

>>60908997
Hurts my sense of propriety to see that RAM go bye-bye. There are new Gigabyte AM3+ motherboards going between 60-70 on ebay, and there's a used 8370 there for 130+$7 shipping. I mean its not really an upgrade but -

aha: here's your value upgrade, get an SSD.

>>60909941
Ryzen 1600, 1060 6gb or 1050ti depending what you want to do with it, and whatever b350 mobo tickles your fancy.

>>60909896
>Good luck overclocking with a 450W PSU and a 1070.
Not any of those anons, just passing by dude here. Decent 450W will be more than enough for top of the line overclocked Ryzen and GTX 1070. You will have plenty of room left.

>>60910198
im p sure there are stores there that will build it for you for less than 40€. Even if you have to pay someone to build it for you, you'll end up saving money

220 bucks for 4GB RX580, y/n?

My Dad uses a Dell that was made in 1995 for work. I'm impressed it's lasted this long honestly, but I want to get him a new computer before it eventually dies and he loses everything.
Is it possible to build something around $100 or should I just get whatever Craigslist pc I can find?
He'll only be doing word processing and the occasional game of solitaire so absolute bare bones is acceptable.

>>60913257
Yes, it's good.
If you don't actually want it you should be able to sell it on eBay for significantly more due to shortages.

>>60913268
>Is it possible to build something around $100
no

>>60913268
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RtdJQV

>>60913268
>$100
You can get a used prebuilt dell or something.

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Would it be possible to have an ultrawide with a second normal monitor above it?

like pic related

gtx 1060 for $270+ or rx 560 for 100$ and wait for vega/better deals?

fuck this gpu market.

>>60913681
I tried to do that (put the normal display on top of my case behind the uw) but it's too high to look at it. Now I have it next to the uw and it just works. It's basically like that super ultra wide meme monitor.

>>60913810
What if I tilt it downwards

>>60913825
I say you should try it. I mean it works but it might be uncomfortable depending on how you sit and stuff.

Are the 5 year old xeons just as fast as a R7?

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https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/CpY2wV
here we go again, after some changes. >>60909426

BUDGET gaming/other tasks (some editing, etc) & i need it to last as many years as possible (im a poorfag).

Purpose: gaming (also, some editing)
Country: Yurop (Spain)

1080 60hz 5ms 21.5" Samsung monitor, I did not buy it, it was a gift 'cause it had a scratch (almost unnoticeable)

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor €226.50
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 98.5€
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €141.5
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (reuse, until i buy an ssd, i'll wait until i find a discounted one)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OCV1 Video Card 283€
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case €69
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: LG - GH10N (old, won't buy a new one)

Total: €885

thoughts? tips are welcome.

>>60913844
Core for core, probably not. But you can build a 16C/32T dual socket monster with used E5's and ECC RAM from ebay and other parts new, for under $1000. That is much cheaper than Threadripper will be, too.

>>60913844
Nope.

>>60913681
As the other anon said: keeping your head tilted up for long periods of time is not comfortable. You could make it work by dropping the bottom panel downwards but that isn't great for ergonomics either.

>>60913946
Didn't really mean it for LONG periods of time Tbh

Just for browsing while playing games on the ultrawide or for streaming something while I browse on the UW

>>60913937
Yeah I'm not too sure about those dual socket motherboards. Are they compatible with video games? And the xeons I've been looking at are mostly lga2011. (I think they don't make this anymore). Also been looking at Xeon workstations. They go for around $300 for a 8 core

>>60913681
One more thing, the smaller display will be farther from you which might not be the best case.

>>60913966
I sit a bit farther then most people do and looking on the side is fine but not up where the small monitor is even smaller. But just try it somehow, like put an image on top it something.

>>60907577
>>60908358
What kind of case style do you want? No frills (a la silverstone)? Futuristic/spacey? Level 10 GT snow or something from NZXT.

>>60911050
You can run a webpage of a 2002 dell running linux. Just hope you set up a good firewall and don't have too much traffic.

>>60906481
Hey niggers, a newfag with 500 euros here
what do?

Is the 1050 ti good for mining??

>>60913937
Have done this for literally less than $350 actually. And this was in 2013 for a server. For a while when my main rig went down and I was out of work I swapped it in lieu of my i7 and it still gamed amazingly lmao.

>>60913987
I have an intel PSL5000 and it, as mentioned above, has recently played games at great settings with a single amd ati 7950 (It didn't work with CFx so I couldn't throw my second in there, no issue regardless).

Can also speak to 2011 Xeon and 2011 boards in general - they are excellent options too and can be found for cheaper on ebay than a new consumer grade rig.

>>60914122
What do you want to do?

>>60914156
besides killing myself, play games

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>>60914269
APUs and Athlon

I don't need even know where to begin with cases, so some ideas would be nice.

Looking for
>silent
>mATX
>fits a 320mm radiator

>>60914269
The Excavator-based APUs
>A12-9800
>A12-9800E
>A10-9700
>A10-9700E
>A8-9600
>A6-9500
>A6-9500E
>Athlon X4 950
You can buy them on ebay or in prebuilt OEM systems. They're going to be replaced by the Raven Ridge APUs with Zen cores

What card can easily handle dual monitors? I was considering a primary 1440p monitor for gayming and editing stuff and a regular 1080p on the side for other rudimentary things

>>60914189
You basically have three options:

Buy something now for 500eu, it won't be crazy great but it will at least run games.

Save up and spend a bit more, say 1000eu or so:

You can get a very nice system that will max most games out.

Or, continue reading - ask questions, google things you want to know, and ebay/craigslist a sick build that will max games and cost ~500ish eu.

Pleb question: do I go 2x4GB or 1x8GB for RAM?

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Mainly for gaming/general use.Might get into image stuff later. I already have my storage available. I was wondering if I could nab a cheaper monitor for 1444p 144hz fuckery.

>>60914584
How many dimm slots on your board? Do you anticipate upgrading at all within the next 5 years or so, or will this machine be more permanent?

>this AMD shilling
good goy, good goy

Are there any other websites that sell used parts in a similar way to amazon

>>60914801
epic

Any idea to when AMD will be able to start meeting the demand for rx 580s? I'm going to be buying my first PC soon and I'd rather get a rx 580, than pay more for a 1070.

>>60914941
lol good luck getting a 1070

thoughts on my build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gmdJQV

>>60915147
Oh btw I'm not looking to get an insane monitor right now...

>>60915147
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gmdJQV

>B250 chipset
>750w psu
>K chip


For $2000 you could do a hell of a lot better pal

You could also have gotten a cheaper boot ssd I think, but hey to each their own with it.

>>60915213
>B250
>750w psu
>K chip

Yeah I don't need a Z270 board when a B250 one fulfills my needs with connections and overclocking ability.

I don't feel comfortable with a 650w psu especially since I'll be overclocking.

Uhh yeah I'm gonna overclock sooo...

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So many options...
Which of each three is gud-est?

>>60914778
Still haven't decided on a board yet, but it will be more permanent.

>>60915240

>Don't need a Z270

You claim you want to OC but B250 limits ram to 2400mhz. Also, are you sure you have all the connections you'll want - double check and do consider if SLI/CFx, soundcard, etc. are in your future.

>I don't feel comfortable with a 650w PSU

Why? Hell, I'd even consider a 450w or 550w.

Also you realize that you'll be changing voltages by miniscule amounts right, the actual consumption of power won't change drastically. Unless you're confusing TDP for actual consumption, which is probably why you're terrified of going to a more reasonable PSU.

>I fell for the "Only K chips can overclock" meme

Okay, it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about so let me help you out - K chips aren't the only things that can be OC'd, and I'm actually starting to believe you might just be messing with multipliers instead of actually OC'ing lol.

>>60915296
>GPU

480, though I don't know actual benchmarks between it and the 1060 so just double check.

>HSF
212 is fine, NHU12S is great, but either works.

>Mobo

I don't know exact specs but off of price, brand, and chipset I'd call the Z270.

>PSU

S12II is excellent but they are all fine units.

>Case

Don't cop the rosewill, they have historically been rather bad case manufacturers (except for a few hits here and there)

I'm a sucker for NZXT design elements, but Coolermaster cases are also good quality.

>>60915320
If it will be more permanent, choose 2 or even 4 sticks. You'll get a slice boost out of the DDR. If you think you'll upgrade AT ALL, maybe get the single dimm so you can take advantage of the DDR later without getting a completely new set of dimms.

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>>60915296
>>60915369
Thanks man

Whats the best matx case I can get for 35-50$?

>>60915369
Okay well perhaps you can alter my build to where it's more reasonable...

I don't see what's wrong when you're able to achieve a stable overclock from just messing around with the multiplier and voltage when needed.

>>60915472

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%20%20600546036%204025%204093%2050014581%2050001459%2050001333%2050001379%2050001516&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36

Good luck

>>60915480
>I don't see what's wrong when you're able to achieve a stable overclock from just messing around with the multiplier and voltage when needed.

Nothing is wrong with this, but truth be told you don't need a K chip if you're just overclocking a little bit. Once you start moving up by multiple Mhz you're gonna have to tweak the voltage anyway - so if you're actually serious about getting into the OC/enthusiast side of things why not learn on a cheaper chip anyway. Worst case scenario (happens with a lot of OCers) is they end up not being into instability and high temps and leave their OC within the 3Ghz range... in which case you really didn't need the K chip, so again, why not just go with the non K chip. If it turns out that you love OC'ing and want to get into the really elite stuff like CO2 potting, then you're gonna want multiple systems and multiple chips anyway. I'm pretty faded but hopefully I'm making some sense here.

>Note about PSU

I'm not saying your 750 is bad or won't be good, but I just don't see the need when I've run plenty of systems (including dual cpu, dual gpu, servers with >10 drives, etc. etc.) off of mostly 500w. But it wouldn't be the end of the world if you kept the current one.

>>60915369
Will you fucking stop the reddit spacing?
Your message didn't need to be that tall in any way, and it's much harder to read with all the empty space

>>60915480
>>60915577

Also the board preference really comes down to ram OC'ing and having more connections. AFAIK, they (B250) should be lackluster in design and heatsink elements, and prolly vrms/peripheral electronics as well but that really is a board by board thing you'll have to consider.

>>60915594

>the old Reddit accusation meme

Listen man, I know having autism is tough but not everything you dislike comes from a single website. What I'm doing is called line spacing between paragraphs and titles, but ofc you wouldn't know that because you're too busy complaining about other's posting methods on an anonymous board.

>>60912441
RX 580 Nitro+
that said. you probably won`t find one at retail price... or at sale at all

>>60915638
What do you think about this setup...

I'm going to stick with the K version for now. Also I can't decide between the Krait Gaming or the Tomahawk Arctic board.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r9N2wV

Are the temp issues for the 7700k as bad as some people are claiming or is it just that you generally only find complaints when you look these things up?

I'm making a 1440p 144hz build and I really don't know what to do for the CPU. The 7700k seems like the ideal choice but I'd rather not watercool and I'm using Micro ATX form factor so I can't fit a fuck off massive cooler, so I'm concerned that the chip is just gonna cook.

>>60913896
se ve bien, anon.
¿No encuentras una 1060 (6GB)mas económica?
Iguamente tu RAM està bastante cara, debería costar alrededor de 115-120 USD... no se como se escale a Euros.

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>>60915638
>What I'm doing is called line spacing between paragraphs and titles,
You press enter twice where you should press it once, as is the norm on reddit as whatever they fuck they use to format their text requires it
Why would you leave useless empty space between quotes and their answers? While would you leave empty space between two of your own lines?
I don't think you know what a paragraph is, for every line of text there is in your text there is an empty space under it. That's not a paragraph by any mean. Stop spacing your text like a retard.

is the ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4
any good?

>>60914757
looks good anon, just you might want to wait for Vega. I mean if you're dropping that much money better ge the latest hardware.

current system.
do i just get the same exact ram if i wanna upgrade to 16gb? apparantly your system just downclocks to the slowest ram if you have multiple different kinds installed?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/kirbymaster101/saved/

>>60914757
if it's mainly gaymen what's your reasons for not picking the 7700/7600?

>580 being unavailable delaying my build

What are the cheapest options for a monitor that I can get paired up with a 1070?

>>60915805
fairly sure even the GTX 1070 are hard to find now.

>>60915713
>You press enter twice where you should press it once

Should is a strong word bud. Should one always have pink hydrangeas over blue? It's a matter.

>as is the norm on reddit as whatever they fuck they use to format their text requires it

It's also the norm on plenty of other places. News publications, academic articles, etc. Again, I know having autism is tough but please try to understand that many people may or may not choose this style - and for many different reasons.

>Why would you leave useless empty space between quotes and their answers? While would you leave empty space between two of your own lines?

Useless?... There you go again with those strong words. I happen to have a lot of subjective utility with reading this format, as I feel it is easier on my eyes.

>I don't think you know what a paragraph is,

Oh so you're a pedant. Why aren't what I wrote paragraphs? Because they frequently don't have more than (arbitrarily) 5 sentences? You do know that paragraphs are based on cohesiveness of an idea, not on what your grammar school teacher told you so that you'd actually write a decent amount - right?

> for every line of text there is in your text there is an empty space under it.

That's blatantly false. Read my above comments. I certainly line space, but I don't do it "for every line"

Also..

>they fuck
>While would

For being such a PITA about my style, you sure don't seem to care a lot about your own mate. Do you need a cigarette or something lad? Chill out.

>>60915871
*matter of style and subjective opinion

Forgot to add that,

Bud.

>>60915147
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gmdJQV
let me make you a counterproposal

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zPJTgL

>>60915893
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zPJTgL

I don't need an 8 core processor if anything a 1600x would serve just fine.

As for the asethetics, I'm trying to go for a white and black theme. So I'd prefer to have that Deepcool 240 AIO.

Do you not like the FireCuda SSHD and the PSU isn't that good compared to G2 or G3.

>>60916100
yeah, the 1600X is good. I jst wanted to match the price you were willing to spend on a CPU.

that cooler is good also. but I personally prefer air cooling.

and the HGST HDDs have the best quality. just look at failure rate. and they are cheap AS FUCK

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I have no real budget limitations and am just trying to build a pc that would be able to run almost anything right now. I've been using laptops for the past few years and finally snapped when my last one broke.

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>>60915871
>I certainly line space, but I don't do it "for every line"
Yes you do, pic related
Just go back to your reddit already if you enjoy pressing the enter key so much, because you're bloating this fucking thread with your long as fuck and unpractical to read messages

>>60916348
>60hz monitor with 7700k
Epic waste of money i guess

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>>60916348
>no real budget limitations
>this shitpile of a build
>buying wangblows10
>home edition

>>60916348
cpu is overkill unless you're planning on like emulating wii u games with cemu.

>>60916574
Cemu is barely intensive, i finished a few Wii U games on it on my R7 1700 @ 3.3GHz without boost

>>60916596
have you tried BOTW? is it fully playable now?

>>60916609
Yes, but BOTW doesn't reach constant fullspeed even with workarounds on any system

>>60915296
Don't pair this kind of rig with Intel, get a Ryzen 5 1600 which is better than Intel for everything and on par with the i5 7600k in gaming performance, plus you only need a B350 board which you could get for as low as $70, I recommend the ASRock B350M Pro4.

UK. Want an inexpensive Sata III ssd /m.2. What is an ssd that doesn't shit the bed with random read/writes and general OS operation (Kingston SSDNow, Sandisk SSD Plus, WD Green, etc)? Is m.2 form factor worth it? Would I need to buy a bracket if going for a 2.5" form factor and fitting it in a tower build?

>>60916348
Get a Ryzen 1700
Stock cooler is fine if you wan't to same money, otherwise if you get an x Ryzen processor you can add the CRYORIG H7
Any ryzen X370 motherboard is good, but if you want to save a bit of money the B350 boards from anyone but Gigabyte are acceptable, for B350m if you want to save up even more get the ASRock AB350M Pro4

1080p60Hz monitor is overkill, get 1440p60hz at the least or 1080p144hz, otherwise you are just wasting money

Don't get Windows 10 Home version at all, go to mydigitallife forums and search for an .iso, Pro/Education/Enterprise versions are all good, there is also the microsoft toolkit if you don't want to buy a key, do your research (even if you buy one, there is a subreddit which only has reputable sellers, keys go for half the price you listed, search for yourself)

Change the PSU to the G series of EVGA, G2 and G3 are the best, GQ is decent.

Get a 240GB(or more) SSD for better speeds, Samsung EVO 850 and PNY are good ones, avoid Sandisk Plus/Tri 150/Kingston UV400.

>>60916816
Yeah, but a Ryzen 5 1600 costs twice as much as an i3 7100
Still, I'll look into it

>>60916994
The only 2 intel CPUs worth buying are the Pentium G4560 and 7700k, the Pentium has almost the same performance as the i3 7100 for much lower price, unless you are getting it with a big discount, I would either get a Ryzen 5 1400 or the Pentium.

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Mobo - Alienware R1 Aurora X51 MiniITX
CPU - i7 2600k
Ram - 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @ 1600mhz
GPU - ASUS DirectCU II 660Ti 2gb
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 1tb 3.5" mechanical
PSU - Antec Earthwatts Green 500w 80 Bronze
Case - Beigebox i salvaged, cleaned and repainted

>>60917219
you have questionable color taste

>>60906512
>1. 8GB (4x2) DDR4 2133mhz or 2400mhz $60+
>2. 16GB (8x2) DDR4 2133mhz - 3200mhz $120+

Are you canadian or something? Memory should only cost half that.

>>60916868
Bump

I understand Ryzen scales well with RAM speeds but it won't be terrible with a slower kit will it? I was thinking of getting 8GB of 2400 MHz RAM for now and upgrading later when needed, reusing that RAM for my living room PC's eventual upgrade. It'd be paired with a 1050 ti which I'd presume would be the bottleneck even with slower RAM.

>>60917288
Let me know if you find a place selling at those prices.

I want a short video card, does anyone make them?
R9 nano looks unobtainium and expensive.

>>60917236
the paint was free, only thing i paid for in this build was the PSU, the rest was savlaged and gifted

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gBnjD8

rate? will i be able to handle midrange 4k 60fps?

Could someone explain to me what would be the difference between a 1060 3GB and 6GB please? By that I mean, what happens exactly while in-game with a card from another, what will the 3GB version have a hard time doing compared to the 6GB one?
I watched some benchmarks and only saw 2-5 FPS difference between the two cards.

Worth pointing out the build will only have 8GB RAM; not sure if that matters.

is there a reason to pick AMD over Intel for a purely gaymen rig?

Can I get some feedback on my build, about to pull the trigger. It is intended for 1080p 60fps gaming on medium-ultra settings depending in the game.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCxWvV

>>60917597
>He doesn't read the OP.

>>60906502

Found the 7700K owner.

>>60917312
Yeah it won't be terrible with a slower kit at all. Higher frequency kit is only if you benefit from the extra performance, like if you have a high refresh rate screen or do video encoding (anything really CPU intensive that can be faster with a beefier CPU)
And yeah, the 1050ti will be the bottleneck regardless.

>>60917712
The latest games benefit from more threads, plus you don't notice the difference between Intel and Amd cpus in games.

>>60918012
>you don't notice the difference between Intel and Amd cpus in games
even @ 1440p 144hz?

>>60917873
>he might be literally retarded but he can't find answer to this question in OP

>>60918043
Maybe there. But in lower framerates you won't be able to bottleneck the cpu. I don't get why people think that playing on 1080p with a 1080ti is a realistic situation.

So since it seems a good cooler is a good investment considering how slowly technology advancements go for them.
What is the best performance wise(disregarding noise levels) cooler to by for my r5 1600 build?
Are AIO's the way to go? If so how much better is the best performing consumer AIO than the best performing CPU Fan Cooler?
I'm considering investing around 100$(give or take) i also don't care about looks so those leds can go somewhere else.

>>60918429
>Are AIO's the way to go?
No. Too expensive, noisy and cooling performance is not as good as you'd hope for relative to high-end air coolers.
For example, the Noctua NH-D15SE is right up there with most AIOs, costs significantly less and produces less noise while offering excellent temps.
>I'm considering investing around 100$(give or take)
Do this only for extreme OC or if you're a temperature fetishist, even if, just buy a high-end air cooler. Otherwise get a good air cooler for like $40-55 and invest the money in something else.

Good case recommendations? I'm looking for an ATX mid-size tower. Under $60. I'd also like it to not look too generic, but not at the cost of quality.
So far I'm looking at the Corsairs 200R or the Spec-1

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qr9yd6

For 1080p gaming and light video editing, Is the mobo any good? Got a half off deal for it.

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Would an unused iM5A78L-M LX PLUS for 35$ be good for a budget AMD build?

>>60918658
I think the full tower is overkill, and good luck getting that GPU. Otherwise, everything looks good.

>>60917997
Cool, I'll do that then. With any luck I can stick with it for a while since my next upgrade will be higher res at 60hz

>>60918781
Cool, thanks a lot man. Full tower's just in case I decide to expand a bit, plus it has the tweaktown editor's choice award!

reminder not to create any newer thread as this one
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>>60906463
also exists

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Should I get this mostly just for gaming?

>>60918983
>should i get a CPU that gets near 100% usage in any AAA from the past 3 - 4 years and has bigger FPS drop than others as a result
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI

>>60919059
Thank you

>>60919059
I don't know dick about computers or gaming. I have been using my roommates computer for the last year to casually play a few games but he's moving out so I just copied what he had onto a pc part picker list. He offered to sell it to me for $800. Should I just stick to pc part pickers entry level list since I don't have high expectations or knowledge of the stuff?

>>60919189
Make your own list and we'll be there to tell you what to fix.

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My part list recommendation as of June 15th.


>$400
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

>$500
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/XdKwP6

>$900
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/hGrK8d

>$1000
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/v2hf7P

>$1400
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/m7m999

>$1900
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/fVMsYJ


I've included aftermarket coolers for all overclockable CPUs. If you don't want to overclock, you can drop $95 from your total. I'd also suggest going with a B350 motherboard instead, this will drop your total around $10 or more.

I've scaled most component costs with the price/performance of the CPU. Particularly SSD storage space and Video card selection.

I selected the highest frequency RAM on all mobos. If you don't want the performance benefit; you can reduce the cost of your build by going with 2133mhz. This would range from $20 or less reduction from the total.

I went with be quiet! cases for all of the high-end builds, they're not too expensive and will provide a better sound environment.

All selected PSUs are plentiful in headroom for overclocking. If you decide to go with a windowed case; go with a modular power supply for aesthetics. You may also go with a higher efficiency Gold+ PSU to save a few pennies on your monthly electric bill.

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>>60919229

>>60919278
That's a pretty cheapo CPU, it will drag down that GPU. If you do change the CPU then get a 500w PSU at the very least because 450w isn't on the comfortable side.
That hard drive is also pretty old, get a WD Caviar Blue for $50 as those are more recent, faster and have more cache

>>60919278

GTX 1060 6GB outshines the G4560 by quite a bit performance and price-wise.

I'd go with the GeForce GT 1030 instead, it's much more comparable to pentium.

>>60919316
You're clueless about PSUs.

>>60919324
>You're clueless about PSUs.
no u

>>60914053
Something without brushed plastic.

Does ryzen 5 work well with the gtx 1060?

>>60920140
Yes.

>>60920140
Here's a build that features both of these parts

>$1000
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/v2hf7P

>>60920302
The 1600 stock cooler is fine. There is no need to spend 95 dollars on a CPU cooler to achieve a clockspeed you won't ever get to use optimally.

>>60920374
This is absolutely fine! There's no need to get the aftermarket fan if you don't want to overclock.

>>60920302
Hello mister horsejumper, you make awful builds. Please stop overspending on CPU cooler and underspending on PSU, thank you.

Is getting a max CPU temp of 83C while stress testing with Aida64 decent? Had the CPU, FPU, cache, and memory options checked off.

My CPU is the i7-7700k, not overclocked right now, and the CPU cooler is a Noctua NH-U12S. Also there was no throttling, my 7700k ran at 4.5 GHz the whole time (only ran a bit over 30 minutes since not overclocking and temps were stable).

>>60920610
That CPU temperature is fine as long as the CPU isn't throttling.

Would you recommend micro or full ATX? And as a follow up what case would you pair with the mobo?

>>60920895
Micro ATX unless you need additional PCI-E slots.

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