/pcbg/ PC Building General - M E G A Tasking Edition

>>60906463
First for 7700K is better than the 1700X at gaming

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>>60906644
t.

CPUs:
>G4560 - budget builds (<$500) unless G4600/G4620/i3-7100 is heavily discounted
>R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5
>R5 1600/i5 7600 - good value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 1600x if you too lazy to OC, 7600K if you want to OC
>7700K - best performance/$ for higher fps gaming & mixed usage; 7700K if you want to OC
>R7/Xeon/Threadripper/ - compute/Multitask/mixed use

Anyone know the release date for these RX580 cards everyone keeps recommending?

>>60906463
>No i5
So you're just going to ignore a more mature CPU with less growing pains than the entire Ryzen line up just because it has hyperthreading? That's fucking retarded. Even with hyperthreading, the 1500X is shit compared to the 7600K.
>>60906734
Why would you want the 580? They cost the same as 1080 Tis for 1060 performance.

>>60906713
>no i5
>lists i5
Dumb intelposter.

>>60906713
go away aspie, back to the shitpost thread
>>60906481
>>60906481
>>60906481

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>>60906750
>WAHHHHHHHHH PLEASE BUY INTEL
seems like the jidf is on full damage control ahead of the threadripper launch

>>60906786
>threadripper
>CCX latencies
Enjoy your shitty faux 16-core, AMDrone

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>>60906834
>amdrone
img_xxxx you need to leave

>>60906848
Ah time to head back to the other thread. I see the AMD shill resides in this one.

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>>60906834
MUH BINGBUS

>>60906873
t. intel shill

I know this is a question for /tpg/ but that thread is dead. So I have a t420 coming and am wondering if getting a msata SSD is worth it. I was planning on getting a cheap 32gb one just to boot from, replacing the regular drive with a SSD and placing the old drive in a caddy. Also does anyone know if replacing the i5 with an i7 is worth the 40 bucks? Or will it be so marginal that I'm better off just keeping the i5?

>>60906936
get a ssd for the t420

how is my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhHzLD

>>60906956
Yes, that is the plan but I'm asking how well a msata preforms in it and if it's worth the 15ish bucks to get a small msata too boot from to clear up some SSD room.

>>60907011
if its $15 it is worth the upgrade for the reduced boot time

>>60907011
You won't do much with a 32gb drive. Or linux is that small?

>>60907041
>>60906936
>>60906956
install gentoo

>>60907066
Is it fun?

>>60907072
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4

I just built a Ryzen 1600 and 1060 6gb build.
Playing some Borderlands and I'm barely averaging 60 fps, what gives?

>>60907041
Yeah, I could install a lot of distros like 10 times on that size.

>>60907098
>Ryzen 1600
There's your problem
Should have gotten an Intel Core i5-7500

>>60907098
>barely
turn v-sync off

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>>60907107
fuck off and stop shilling you autismo

>>60907125
I don't want screen tearing

>>60907125
Not even an option in the settings, its a 2009 game.

>>60907209
then get freesync or goyimsync

>>60907219
v-sync is an option, retard

>>60907209
Don't play the zombie dlc then.

What cpu should I buy for games and light Photoshop use ? My budget is 300-350$

>>60907343
Just for the CPU or whole build?

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A lot of people that look for recommendations on specific components, I put together a list of full builds using an NZXT CPU Cooler and Case. I tried to scale each component uniformly with the rest of the build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/

>>60907357
I'm going with a 1080 ti gpu if that helps

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>>60906463
Reposting because last thread died:

Does anyone have advice on what I should upgrade for better /vg/ performance?

Graphics card only, or should I get a new CPU to avoid bottle-necking? This would probably make it necessary to get a new motherboard as well, as I'm running an FX-6300 (AM3+ socket).

>tfw poorfag

>>60907417
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti is my recommendation for that processor.

If you want to get a slightly more powerful graphics card, get the GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

>>60907417
GPU should be fine for that resolution. CPU can do with an upgrade. So can the monitor. You can afford anew SSD as sell.

>>60907417
dont get a new gpu

you need a new cpu first

>>60906644
I mean, it's true. But most adults don't have time to buy an intel processor :^)

>>60907219
ini files

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$400 Pentium G4560
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

>CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.88 @ OutletPC)
>Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($32.98 @ Newegg)
>Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($32.98 @ Newegg)
>Storage: ADATA - Premier SP600NS34 128GB M.2-2242 Solid State Drive ($51.78 @ Amazon)
>Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Low Profile Video Card ($69.99 @ Amazon)
>Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($32.14 @ NCIX US)
>Power Supply: EVGA - 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($28.98 @ Newegg)


$900 Ryzen 5 1500X
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/8wsTWZ

>CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X42 Liquid CPU Cooler ($124.59 @ OutletPC)
>Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
>Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($84.98 @ Newegg)
>Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($136.69 @ Amazon)
>Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($128.99 @ Newegg)
>Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)

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$1100 Ryzen 5 1600
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

>CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.69 @ SuperBiiz)
>CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X52 Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
>Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
>Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($136.69 @ Amazon)
>Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card ($249.89 @ SuperBiiz)
>Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)


$1500 Ryzen 7 1700
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/t3TK8d

>CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.39 @ SuperBiiz)
>CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler ($158.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
>Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
>Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($272.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($380.89 @ SuperBiiz)
>Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)

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$2000 Ryzen 7 1800X
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/64b3CJ

>CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.99 @ Amazon)
>CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler ($158.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
>Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
>Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($272.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($694.79 @ SuperBiiz)
>Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Power Supply: EVGA - B3 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($62.69 @ Amazon)

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need a gpu suggestion for my budget gaming build (at 1080p 60fps). My local computer store is having a sale on Galax GTX cards. Now I'm looking at:
#1 1050Ti 4GB
#2 1060 3GB for 1.5x the price of #1
#3 1060 6GB for 1.75x the price of #1
which one would you choose and why?
>zero RX400/RX500 stock everywhere

>>60907693

If this is a budget build, I would recommend the GTX 1050 Ti.

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>>60907702
thanks!
I guess what I'm worrying about is, will the performance of the 1060 justify the price difference? ($70-80 jump for 1060 3GB and ~$120 for 1060 6GB)
if yes perhaps I need to suck it up and get the 1060 instead?

>>60907855
The GTX 1060 pushes numbers a little faster than the GTX 1050 Ti, however; I believe the GTX 1050 Ti is more fit for a budget build.

>>60907855
Correct me if I'm wrong but the 3gb should do very good 1080p gaming on high settings as the 6gb version should do max settings or even a bit 1440p gaming. On recent games of course. The 1050 is for mobas.

>>60907878

He doesn't know anything about this, he just wants a recommendation. GTX 1050 Ti will push Doom past 60 fps, one of the most well-optimized games.

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>>60907867
>>60907878
>>60907903
regarding the games I wanted to play, I haven't decided yet, but it'd be nice if the build can run most of the popular games on Steam right now (ark, cod bo3, poe, xcom2, ori, tyranny) at high settings, 1080p 60fps.
thanks for the response!

>>60907903
Anon...

>>60907989
Even Xcom2 drops frame on 1080ti to 20 FPS in some situations. Xcom2 is a really badly optimized game.

Would a Ryzen 1600 bottleneck a 1080 ti?

>>60908134
What resolution? Ever CPU gets bottlenecked by 1080ti at 1080p. Only 7700k gets above 144 and that is not even consistent (for the newest games). On higher resolutions? The 1080ti gets bottleneck first. Either way you will have CPU or GPU bottleneck.

>>60908171
Okay, thanks. I plan to use it at 1080p and 4K. Anything you would suggest?

>>60908187
Go google benchmarks and look them up yourself. Don't trust anyone on /g/ because there is an AMD shill around posting doctored benchmarks. I suggest 7700k if you are going 4k.

>>60908207
Okay, I'll do that. Thanks again.

>>60908207
>I suggest 7700k if you are going 4k.
Not him but why? A higher resolution makes the processor choice not that important.

>>60908221
https://lanoc.org/review/cpus/7478-intel-i7-7700k-vs-amd-ryzen-r7-1700-in-gaming?showall=1

There will come a day when 1080ti will get bottlenecked as well. Unless gaming development changes as rapidly as the 1080ti declines, the 7700k is still superior to the 1700x.

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>>60906834
Good goy

>>60908207
>muh shill boogeyman

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>>60908260
Sure thing corelet

>>60907855

The 1050ti is barely better then the 1050 - either get the 1050 or get a 1060.

There is no reason for the tis exsistence since its usually 40-50 more then the regular card.

I got my 1050(regular) for 60$ after rebate.

>>60908327
Cool game there friendo

>>60908310
Like clockwork

So why shouldn't I do a build as follows:

- Ryzen 1600
- B350 motherboard
- 8GB DDR4 @ 3000mhz
- gtx 1050(weak but I will upgrade later, maybe BF as I recently bought it)
- SSD + HDD storage

Is there any downside?

I thought about a cheapy G4650 build but the LGA 1151 is dead and if I ever wanted to upgrade I would be stuck with what ever used i5s/i9s existed instead of the newer processors.

>>60908412

$1100 Ryzen 5 1600
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

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>Both Intel and AyyMD failed to deliver.

It's time to look to VIA boy's.

>>60908518
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

My build is 550...

>>60908595

You didn't specify a price range, so I went with a build I had put together for the Ryzen 5 1600.

This build has 16GB 3200mhz, a GTX 1060 6GB card that you will not have to replace for several years.

A single SDD that would incorporate the total money you would spend on both and HDD + smaller SSD

>>60907375
Ryzen 1700, no bottleneck.

>>60907670
>>60907662
>>60907648
>MSI B350 Mate on every build, even on $2000
Really nigga? The B350s Asus Prime Plus and ASRock Pro4 are better value, honestly at this point just get a X370, 99% of those are guaranteed to be of good quality and have more features than B350s boards.

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Any suggestions on what to upgrade?

>>60908978
SSD

WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE 570'S

FUCKING CRYPTOCUNTS AHHHHHH

>>60908978
At this point get a new PC, the only thing you can improve there is maybe the graphics card (even a 1060 6GB won't be bottlenecked as long as you OC your CPU a bit) and add an SSD for faster booting and loading times (I recommend at least 240GB since they last more and have better speeds, Samsung 850 EVO and PNY are good).

>>60908380
>games
this is /g/ not /v/

>>60906463
>M E G A Tasking
better get an atx S U P E R Tower for that

Please someone recommend me a monitor they use that's relatively new, 1080p, 21-25 inch range and under 160 USD.

>>60909254

Would you rather have 120hz monitor or an IPS?

>>60909254

Well here is a 23" 1080p75 IPS for $150.

>>60909292
>Well here is a..
??

>>60909264
I've seen some IPS monitors and someone in one of these threads say that the modern ones in that price range have backlight problems (it bleeds through). I'd rather have a TN panel if that is REALLY the case.

>>60909340

My bad, and that monitor was also above $160.

Here's my suggestion https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bk648d/dell-monitor-se2416h

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Any suggestions for updating?

Mostly used for gaming (Dota 2 and Overwatch, emulation). Lots of new games on the horizon have me excited as well, want to upgrade to play those too (some of which are Metro Exodus, Sea of Thieves, Monster Hunter, want to play Nier: A soon).

Not sure about a budget yet since I am between jobs (interning). Thanks!

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https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/LhdGgL

Okay, here we go again. Budget PC since i'm poor as fuck but i need it before July.
Purpose: gaming (also, some editing)
Country: Yurop (Spain)

1080 60hz 5ms 21.5" Samsung monitor, I did not buy it, it was a gift 'cause it had a scratch (almost unnoticeable)

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor €205
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €112.50
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €80
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ( Reuse, I'll buy an SSD as soon as i see a discounted one)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card 283 €
Case: Zalman - Z3 ATX Mid Tower Case 40€
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply 66€

tips? do i need to change smth? stock cooler?

>>60909384
Thank you for your help. This is what you use?

>>60909421
forgot to mention,

>USA

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>>60909426
Why wouldn't you get the Ryzen 1600? You're not paying much more and you get two extra cores.

>>60909254
also been wanting to buy a cheap IPS. Currently I'm looking at LG 25" LED 25UM58-P

>>60909426
>zalman case
Get something nicer for yourself. If you wanna cheap out on the case then go Aerocool the ones with the shrowd for PSU or Deepcool, either the Tesseract/Dukase

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>>60909462
>25UM58-P

dats ultra-wide man

I don't think it's worth it. Most UIs (for gayming) support 16:9 and not 21:9. Spoken from a guy whos been using a 4:3 monitor for 10 years lol.

>>60909421
I'd suggest picking up a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB video card. The rest of your machine will last several more years.

>>60909426
I'd suggest this build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rjxTgL

>>60909434
No sir. I selected because Dell makes quality monitors, this is also an IPS which looks considerably better than a TN model.

>>60909507
My bad, I used Pounds as the currency, this is now fixed for Spain:

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/khpDsJ

>>60909459
Ryzen 5 1600 +20€ (226€). worth the 20€?

>>60909463
Corsair Carbide 200R 70€ ?
deepcool cases are hard to find in my country

ty for the replies

>>60909506
ahh okay. good thing I posted here.

>>60909564
EHhh come to think of it I had the wrong idea. Gayms support widescreen over standard and 21:9 is a widescreen res. I was thinking of specific games and mods out there who for some reason might not support 21:9. Probably far and few in between.

Still you probably have to have a higher end card for gayming on those resolutions.

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Various builds for various price ranges. Does not include OS, CD Drive, Mouse/Keyboard or Monitor.
Optimized for cpu overclocking (if applicable)

$390
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

$450
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/zVNt6h

$930
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/8wsTWZ

$1150
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mCYsYJ

$1510
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/t3TK8d

$1990
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/64b3CJ

>>60909792
>Zotac
:^)

Want to spend around 800-900€ on cpu, Mobo, GPU and RAM. Maybe even an air cooler if ryzen stock is not enough.

The problem is I can't fucking decide which ryzen and mobo should I choose. Any advice? I suppose a RX 580 8gb should work fine.

Main purpose is updating PC to stay fine for at least 5 years. I'm not a gayman but I'll play some games (1080 on high, i don't give a fuck about 4k). Apart from that I will be using the PC for processing access and Excel sheets and a little AutoCAD
Thanks in advance

>>60906463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ssad0qZuU

>>60909959
This is the build you want to go with.

£780
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6zpkT

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>Which one do I get for a gaming pc /g/
ryzen comes out 50 dollars cheaper with the free mobo but the i7 is faster single thread performance

>>60910322
What's your GPU? If it's anything less than a 1080Ti, go with the ryzen.

>>60906984
I'd go for a cheaper mainboard. Also do you really need the x370 chipset? Rest looks good.

>>60906936
mSATA devices are great in thinkpads and elsewhere as a boot drive but 32gb is really tiny. Also don't use the i7.

>>60910322
what's the screen refresh rate and resolution?
If it's below 144hz you'd be wasting money by going for a $300+ CPU

>>60910599
4k 60 + 1080 60
probably going to buy a 1080

>>60910715
Going between either will make no difference in game then. You should save money and go for an R5 1600

Quick question about my itx build:
Would it make sense to spend the extra 30-40 bucks to go from a 450W to a 600W SFX PSU?
It would mean going from about 90 to about 120 Watts of silent operation but considering PCPP puts my wattage at 260 I'll pretty much only be under that number in idle anyway right? Or can a G4620 and 1060 6gb sty below the 120w mark under in any kind of realistic load scenario?

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Should I get a 1080ti?

I'm running 60hz monitor so only aiming for 60fps, I don't give a shit about anything higher. Mostly play GTA:O, PUBG, other older games, maybe some new ones like Prey, Anthem, etc.

No USB ports work anywhere on my computer. I can't even control the bios with a USB keyboard. I've reset the CMOS, and now it just beings me to screen where it says I need to set my CMOS date, but I can't input anything because no USB.

Is my motherboard DOA?

>>60906750
Nice FUD. Ryzen is plenty stable now.

So I'm trying to make a 1440p 144hz Micro ATX build and I've ran into a bit of a hitch. The best performing CPU for my needs is the 7700k, but it's a fucking space heater and I won't be able to fit massive coolers like the Noctua DH15 and I'd rather not watercool because I'm too scared of the amount of things that can go wrong.

What would be my best option? Hope that a U12S cools the 7700k sufficiently or should I go for Ryzen despite the worse performance in games?

Implying the budget is sort of limited and is the person is ONLY aiming for 1080p60hz, wouldn't a G4560 build with a 1060 6GB (for 200 bucks) be plenty enough?
I've watched many benchmarks, notably the one from HardwareUnboxed which goes into details about the G4560 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUapuF0y30s and that CPU is pretty much running everything fine to OK with the 1060... but in ULTRA settings. I think it'd be easy tone down some settings here and there to medium-high and reach 60+ FPS easily for all of these games (if that's not already the case in ultra).

I know an R5 1400 would be better but it'd also be more expensive, something like 100 to 150 more bucks or so. The question is whether these 100 to 150 bucks are worth investing or not... Help me put this into perspective please.

>GTX 760, 50-100€ (used, from a friend)
>GTX 1050ti (200€, new)
which one would you pick?

>>60910012
Thank you Anon.

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Yay or nay? It will run with a MSI GTX 1060 on 1080p, used for gaming and streaming.

Planning to overclock the CPU to atleast 3.8Ghz.

>>60911986
Should get a Ryzen 1600 instead, price difference is marginal and the performance upgrade is well worth it.

ASRock AB350M mATX for 88 bucks is a pretty good deal, isn't it?

>>60912410
It's an average deal on a decent motherboard.

>>60911814
200€ for a 1050ti is ripping you off, go with the 760

>>60911352
Go for it, it's mostly recommended for 144hz and 1440p but that'll be fine.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nDDQsJ

How's this, for 1080p gaming and light video editing.

>>60912706
swap the WD Black for a WD Blue or a Seagat 2TB Barracuda for cheaper. I have a black only because it came from a pre-built I was given. They're unnecessarily loud, and you don't get much more for your money

>>60912214
1600x is worth the 50€ difference? Or just the plain 1600

Is the 1050 ti good for mining?

>>60914038
1600x is only better if you don't want to overclock, it doesn't come with a stock cooler also so add that to the cost.

>>60911590
Fuck man, I'm having literally the same problem. If I skip Ryzen and 16GB meme ram I could almost get 980ti as their prices (used) are dropping like stones.

>>60914487
Still haven't ordered. For sure that budget build will be 8GB RAM though, I'll add 8 more GB down the road like for Christmas if it's really needed but right now I want to keep it as budget as possible.

Still wavering between R5 1400 and Pentium G4560.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pNf2wV
is the ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4
any good?

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Mainly for gaming/general use.Might get into image stuff later. I already have my storage available. I was wondering if I could nab a cheaper monitor for 1444p 144hz fuckery.

>>60906644
I would rather have 10 less average FPS than a housefire.

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>>60906713

Would a pentium g4560 bottleneck a 1060 3gb?

>>60914832
I'm pissed ram costs so much compared to a year ago. I want Samsung b-die sticks (read about them) and 8GB is like 75€ and 16GB 120€ so might as well go 16GB.

>>60914914
If you're going to OC drop to 1700, the X is not worth it. While that AIO is great, it's stupidly overpriced, a Noctua NH-D15SE will just just as fine but is cheaper and less noisy.
Why this specific mobo? Do you need SLI? Do you need ALC1220 or some other specific feature?
Change PSU to EVGA G3, the NEX is obsolete. Monitor.. no idea. KB/mouse are imho overpriced garbage. Headphones are good but not my taste, also idk if they are good for gaming (footsteps etc.) in case that matters.

>>60915641
They should roughly match, maybe a little but i wouldn't worry. Considering the current GPU market you have the choice between 1060 3G and 1050Ti 4G and if you prefer performance over price and VRAM the 1060 3G is better, even if gimped.

My computer is old and shit, and I want to build one that will allow me to play NEW GAMES.

Specifically, I want to play Fallout 4 because my current computer could not run it well enough to finish playing it, I want to play FF14 Stormblood, Looking forward to Destiny 2, maybe (I got friends that want to) Monster Hunter World in the far flung future. Dark Souls 3, Witcher 3, Deus Ex Mankind Divided are all games I have bought but have been unable to play. Lots of other E3 games I'm looking forward to as well.

I'm probably too fucking lazy to overclock, never actually done it with to my hardware before and unless it's dumb fuck easy to do I don't know if I want to bother.

My budget is a little over 1000 dollars. I have a graphics card but it's crap, I could probably upgrade that to a better one in ~4 months if it's left as a bottle neck. Its a 960 so it could probably at least play most games already on my steam libraryat 1080p 60fps.

Start with a AMD Ryzen 5 1600X? Any reason for water cooling if you're not overclocking? Should I just suck it up and do it?

What would be a GPU to pair with a Ryzen 1600?

How do I pick a proper motherboard? I see a lot of MSI in everyone's builds, are they way better for some reason?

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>>60916581
file name is pcpp list. The 960 isn't terrible but you should probably replace it. OC is pretty easy nowadays but you might not want to use the stock cooler.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HvjYCy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV-SD-pX1II

>>60916581
>Its a 960
Decent enough GPU. Don't buy a GPU now, the market is completely fucked up due to miners buying literall everything they can get their hands on.
>AMD Ryzen 5 1600X?
Do you want to OC and don't really care about the last 5% of MHz? Then get the 1600. Much better value and comes with a cooler that is good enough for up to 3.7GHz OC.
OC isn't really hard anymore and there are guides everywhere. Think about it.
>What would be a GPU to pair with a Ryzen 1600?
Whatever you want. a 1080 is fine but way over your budget. Keep the 960 for now and upgrade to lowest Vega in September, should be about $400 and rival the 1070/1080.
>How do I pick a proper motherboard?
Do you prefer value? Do you need good sound or don't care at all? How many SATA devices? What form factor? All those questions, you know, choose on what you want.
Some mobos are a better choice than others, some are to avoid. Make up your mind, post the build and then we can see what can be improved.

>>60916703
>reference 1070
Enjoy a starting, heating and throttling jet engine. Otherwise good start.

>>60912410
If you have a mATX case then its decent, but for $90 on newegg you can get the Asus Prime Plus B350 which has more features and has decent VRM.

Could someone explain to me what would be the difference between a 1060 3GB and 6GB please? By that I mean, what happens exactly while in-game with a card from another, what will the 3GB version have a hard time doing compared to the 6GB one?
I watched some benchmarks and only saw 2-5 FPS difference between the two cards.

Worth pointing out the build will only have 8GB RAM, not sure if that matters.

>>60916581
>>60916703
2bh if you can wait for an rx580 to become available for a better price I'd go for it, performance is slightly more than a 1060 is the MSRP is considerably less than one, and that can play basically all of the games you want to at a decent framerate if you can sacrifice always being at ultra/very high settings for just high while saving like 100+ bucks on a 1070.

If you wanna go for the 1070 (which is still a great option, no telling when 580s will be available again), an aftermarket one would be much better than a founders edition-style one for thermal performance.

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how did i do?

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Just bought a 1080ti amp extreme and I feel ill

>>60906463

Alright, I got a PC in process of build, Now where can I find the windows 10 isos?

>>60917653
The difference in those two cards GB amount is their amount of VRAM. VRAM is memory that is meant to temporarily store data, like framebuffers and textures and such, to be used by the GPU. So, if you have 6 GB card, it'll be able to temporarily store more of that stuff and basically render more in game than a 3 GB card. This is very similar to how system RAM works with the CPU, just with different processes of course. As you noted, there's not that much of a difference between 3 and 6 GB VRAM in practice with games. Getting more VRAM is never a bad thing for the future unless you're really strapped for cash.

mining bubble burst when

>>60917856
Microsoft's website

Crack with Microsoft Toolkit

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>>60916703
>>60916758
>>60917722

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fLTtFd

So I didn't change much from the original anon, I just went for corsair ram because it's one of the few things I've always brand-preferred for seemingly no reason.

I think I will stick to the 960 for now if the market is crap.

What parameters am I looking for towards picking out a water cooler? I don't know a thing about them

Also, what's the best way to get windows 10 and drivers onto my PC with no optical drive?

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i want to upgrade to a ryzen 1700x and a gtx 1080 but this is my current motherboard. Should i upgrade the board too or is it still good?

>>60918258
are you dumb

>>60918258
Still good. CPU may need a little force to go into the socket since the mobo is a little older, but that's normal.

>>60918282
Please be nice, anon.

>>60918258
You mainboard only supports am3 socket. Ryzen is am4.

>>60918282
yes. i originally built my pc a couple of years ago using a logical increments guide but all i did was put it together and never really learned what i was actually using.

>>60918258
>Can I use an AM4 CPU on a AM3 motherboard
I mean you can try, but I don't think your CPU or your motherboard is going to like that very much.
Just get an Asrock X370 Taichi MB to go along with your new system and avoid being a dumbass with a worthless CPU.

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>buy 1080ti on ebay
>try to use warranty
>doesn't work because can't transfer it
>breaks

genuinely planning to kill myself tomorrow night this was the last straw

>>60918282
>Asrock X370 Taichi MB
>>60918292
>>60918304
>>60918330
thanks for the help guys

I'm building my first PC what would be the difference between using a Hybrid Hard Drive and using a HDD and SSD

>>60918381
>Hybrid Hard Drive
Just don't. SSD for OS and selected programms plus HDD for storage and games is much better. Hybrids are scam.

>>60918390
Thanks

>>60918339
you fucking idiot

>>60918381
HDD = Hard Drive Disk - Mechanical - Spinning disk platter - Higher capacities for less - Decent speeds - Good pricing

SSD = Solid State Drive - Flash Storage -
Completely silent (No moving parts) - Higher capacities will quickly increase the price - Lightning fast - More expensive than HDD, but great value (Especially Crucial MX300 series SSD's).

SSHD = A mix of the two - Basically an HDD with a bit of SSD flash storage to increase speeds for high priority data.

Hope this helped, good luck.

>>60917940
Thanks. Least expensive 3GB is 190€, 4GB one 240€. I'm not sure the 3GB VRAM are worth 50€ (budget build, coupled to a G4560 and 8GB RAM).

guys help an anon out.. there is 10 days now that I'm looking to buy the right parts for my PC build and everytime I post my list someone's always find something bad in it that I have to change and I start tilting hard at this point..

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XnsM7h

shall I go with it? anything that needs change in order to get full advance of every part? thanks

>>60918961
What's the exact usage?

EVGA CLC ?

>>60918975
gayming and light use of PS but overall I want to build a nice PC that will last 4 or 5 years without any upgrade

>>60919051
Could save money on PSU (600 - 650w) and SSD (non-samsung ones) without much if any differences
Looks good to me.

>>60918961
what's your reasoning behind the ryzen instead of a 7700k?
won't the kaby lake have a noticeable improvement at that framerate?

>>60919077
fuck off and stop shilling intel

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>>60918339
That's hilarious

>>60919107
>why did you pick this over that
>REE SHILL
asking for reasoning isn't shilling. and under those circumstances the 7700k does get better framerate, stating a fact isn't shilling either. look up any gameplay of a game at 1440p comparing the two cpus if you don't believe me.

does the word intel really anger you so much?

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>>60919137
>7700k does get better framerate
no it doesn't, stop shilling

>>60919077
Because I don't care that much for the 5 fps difference on games but I like that it has 8 cores which make it more futureproof and more well around than the 7700k that exceeds only on the gaming part, also the 1700 is cheaper because it comes with a nice cooler that you can reach up to 3,8ghz OC with 60c on full load, on the other hand the you can't OC the 7700k because your risk to get your tower on fire

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>>60919177
STOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP

>>60919193
Hey at least Vega is a housefire.

>>60919166
>guy i was replying to has a 1440p monitor
>posts a 1080p benchmark
poor bait attempt

>>60919177
alright.
the only possible suggestions is that you might be okay with a decent 650w power supply, and if you were hurting for cash you could go from a full tower to a mid tower and still have plenty of expansion room. your build looks good though

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My recommended part list as of June 15th.


>$400
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

>$500
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/XdKwP6

>$900
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/hGrK8d

>$1000
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/v2hf7P

>$1400
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/m7m999

>$1900
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/fVMsYJ


I've included aftermarket coolers for all overclockable CPUs. If you don't want to overclock, you can drop $95 from your total. I'd also suggest going with a B350 motherboard instead, this will drop your total around $10 or more.

I've scaled most component costs with the price/performance of the CPU. Particularly SSD storage space and Video card selection.

I selected the highest frequency RAM on all mobos. If you don't want the performance benefit; you can reduce the cost of your build by going with 2133mhz. This would range from $20 or less reduction from the total.

I went with be quiet! cases for all of the high-end builds, they're not too expensive and will provide a better sound environment.

All selected PSUs are plentiful in headroom for overclocking. If you decide to go with a windowed case; go with a modular power supply for aesthetics. You may also go with a higher efficiency Gold+ PSU to save a few pennies on your monthly electric bill.

>>60919232
Jesus christ that Noctua C14 is a weird looking dude.
The $900 build is pretty bad though, 1500x + $95 cooler when you can go 1600 + $30 ~ $40 cooler and get a better PSU in the process

Also, 450w for the $1000 and $1400 builds when they're gonna draw a decent amount of power when overclocked is pretty shit too

>>60918222
Drivers will usually autoinstall when you set up the device and you can update them through windows. I have no optical drive on my PC and I'm up to date.

As for Windows 10, you can download a Windows Media Creation tool from the windows site, stick it onto an 8 GB USB drive, and use that when you're setting up the OS (It'll say "connect your boot device" when your system posts). During setup, it will ask you to put in a Windows 10 key, but as of now you DO NOT need to put one in, you can just press skip the two (or so) times it asks. You'll get a watermark on the bottom right of your screen and you can't change your background by right clicking your desktop, but otherwise it's exactly the same.

If you wanna pay for Windows like I did because I'm kind of retarded, you can either buy a shady key that might be rescinded later on or you can buy a full price one from Microsoft for ~100 dollars. The Microsoft-official ones come with the boot device, which is usually a disc or USB. The key is separate from the boot device, so you could buy a disc version just for the key and use the USB device you created using the link below. Again, this is just technical information and shit, it's not really recommended that you buy Windows for full price.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

>>60919230
>WAHHHHH PEOPLE WONT BUY INTEL BAIT BAIT BAIT
pathetic

Alright guys, this isn't exactly buying advice, but I feel you might be the most knowledgeable guys around on this topic.

>be me
>build PC (actually replace motherboard and a few other things, and all that that implies)
>it passes POST after a few hiccups, yay
>be unsure of OS
>fuck about in BIOS a bit, set a password because why not, go to sleep because tired
>be also very busy
>still not sure of OS
>be fucking procrastinator and put it off
>get laptop and end up not having a good incentive to get PC working again, plus still busy so it's not like I was sitting on my ass all day thinking "hmm, what should I do? Fix my PC? nah"
>finally decide to install gentoo
>boot
>"Enter system password"

Ok, sounds simple enough right? Wipe the CMOS and go forth.
>press the CLEAR CMOS button because my mobo has one, fancy
>boot again
>"Enter password"
Fuck.
>remove CMOS battery
>wait like a minute
>put it back
>"Enter password"

It's an AsRock Z10 Extreme 7+. Wat do?

>>60919504
Wait, just as I posted that it crossed my mind that while I removed the battery, the PSU was still plugged in and the master switch on it wasn't off (because I use the case to ground myself). Does that mean the mobo was drawing power from the PSU to keep its memory while the battery was out? Do I need to switch the master switch off as well? I know I could just try but I'd like a confirmation before I go opening up my PC again. It's kinda bulky and the cable management is shit so the battery is hard to get at.

>>60919504
you lazy fuck

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Would I be better off using static pressure or high airflow fans for a HTPC in a very enclosed space (pic)?

Also half of the size of the GPU is just it's heatsink.
Would it be better to have a single fan under the PCB half or two fans to also cover the extended heatsink?

>>60919542
I know, I know. I'm actually trying to do something about it now though, except I have no idea how to proceed next.

I really don't wanna have to replace the motherboard just because of my utter stupidity in forgetting a password. Surely there's a way to reset it?
>inb4 I got like the 1 motherboard which has persistent, non-volatile, externally inaccessible password storage, being completely impervious to most evil maid attacks and also completely unrecoverable in case of forgotten password

>>60919561
We want positive air pressure inside of the case, more coming in than going out.

Have the fan cover the extended heatsink.

>>60919561
most people with cases like the Node 202 go with two fans, so covering the extended heatsink seems to work for them. Can't confirm it from my own experiences tho (haven't done a build like this).

>>60919579
so. remove the battery. turn off the power supply then clear the CMOS. then with the PSu still off. turn on the PC, so the fans spin a bit then clear the CMOS again.

put battery back on. start computer. if that doesn´t work you dun goofd
and there is LITERALLY no reason to put a password on the bios if it´s at home and you´re the one that uses it.

>>60919561
When in doubt , Static pressure.

In your case STATIC PRESSURE is the ONLY option. airflow fans will be starved and will just more air within themselves, creating almost nule airflow in the case.

people who have used ips and tn panels, is the tn response time worth the downgrade in picture quality?

i play a lot of fps but i plan on getting a 1440p 144hz ips monitor with a 4ms refresh rate. is not having a tn with 1ms gonna have some massive effect and stop me from getting really good or is it blown out of proportion?

>>60919695

If you want to be as competitive as possible, a low latency, high refresh rate TN will allow you to compete to your best ability.

The fastest IPS's are very close, but slightly slower at 5ms+. The picture quality is very nice, however.

>>60919695
Are you competing seriously, meaning for irl money or other stakes where you want to use every advantage you can? Stick with a tn.

Do you want to enjoy playing and also using the screen outside of games, and sure winning is nice but there are no significant stakes? You'll enjoy an IPS.

So I built my pc like 5 years ago and i cheaped out on the cpu because I was a retard. The mobo only support amd and my current one is that shitty fake 4 core 4.2 ghz one. Looking to upgrade to a better cpu but havent got the biggest budget. Any suggestions?

>>60919796
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/RRWkLk

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I'm trying to build a 1440p gaming rig pic related (roughly)

Is it really that important to get a 'gaming' type monitor to get the most out of the system
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XvfmP6/asus-monitor-pg279q

or would a regular 1440p monitor suffice?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LVV48d/asus-monitor-pb278q

Please help a retard, /g/.
Posting here so I don't have to clutter the board with another thread.
My shitty windows 7 laptop updated, and once it restarted it said that it failed to configure the updates, it's reverting the changes, and to not turn off the computer.
Only problem is that was two hours ago, and the update spinner and asterisk keep moving, but my mouse is completely unresponsive. Should I just ride this shit out, or restart? I'm pretty positive that my computer made a backup before restarting, but I don't want to fuck things up more than they are.

>>60918961
Looks fine, might as well get an HDD now for storage with your budget.

>>60919870

Here's my recommended part list for your intended use.

If you want to do 1440p gaming, you may opt for a higher refresh rate monitor like a 120hz or 144hz monitor. But getting a 1440p120 monitor may be quite pricey.

>$1400
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/m7m999

>>60919796
>>60919835
That's awfully low-end man, not worth the price compared to whatever you have.

>>60919753
i'm not competing for money or anything like that. i just don't want my monitor to make me an absolute shitter that's unable to hit anything ever.
the monitor in question is the PG279Q, which seems to be relatively good for an IPS panel

>>60919918
Show a pre-Ryzen AMD quad core that outshines the pentium G4560.

DDR4 is also quicker than DDR3.

>>60919926
You don't know anything you are talking about and yet are acting awfully confident, not much people are gonna help you with such a behavior.

Is a asus prime 350m plus + ryzen 7 1700 bundle for 370 euros a good deal?

>>60919926
A 1030 is still basically worthless, an upgrade to the 1050ti would be smart and still fairly affordable.

>>60919941
That idiot went as far as recommending it in the previous thread
>>60919324

>>60919918
>>60919926
didnt link the partpicker and im not interested in intel since the mobo has an amd socket

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q4pNwV

I need all 8 SATA ports. I would also like if the DDR4 would run out of the box at 3200, if i need to update bios ill do it. Finally i need a non shit case at or under 100$, the NZXT Guardian i use is a shit show for cables. Any case suggestions? I already have in a second PC a generic Corsair Carbide R5 i think it is. Would like a different case just out of preference.

>>60919938
I haven't asked anyone for help.

>>60919941
Feel free to upgrade to the 1050 Ti, however; it's almost double the price of the Pentium G4560.

>>60919968
Jesus christ in one single message you manage to fuck up a discussion. Could you please stop posting? Or at the very least recommending hardware?
The 1030 is a garbage GPU and the g4560 is a very capable GPU even for AAA gaming, although it falls in the uncomfortable "just enough" category
Pairing g4560 with a 1030 is retarded, pairing it with a 1050ti makes much more sense as it won't even bottleneck it
Stop recommending stuff to anons, you're not doing them any good.

Is a 1080 enough for 3440 x 1440p or should I go full retard and buy a ti?

>>60919653
I love you anon.

I think I physically raped my CMOS, because after multiple attempts using the clear button, the jumper, removing the battery, and having the password still stick there, I followed more or less what you said by repeatedly doing various resetting operations and intermittently trying to turn my PC on at various times with various PSU states. Then I rebooted and the mobo went to post code 62 and refused to bulge.

One proper, by-the-book CMOS reset later and it's now posting happily and no password is set.

Lesson definitely learned for later.

>>60919986
Keep the drama out of /g/, please.

You're getting a computer for under $400 with the GT 1030, a quick little card.

I never said that the GTX 1050 Ti wasn't a bad choice, however; you should consider that the card is considerably more expensive than the processor itself. Don't get ugly with me.

>>60919994
I'd go with the 1080 Ti for smooth 1440p gameplay.

>>60919994
For 60fps? Should be totally fine. Might have to go down from ultra to very high but that really shouldn't matter enough to shell out for a TI.

>>60920021
>you should consider that the card is considerably more expensive than the processor itself. D
So? The price doesn't matter at all, getting a g4560 doesn't mean you should automatically aim for a GT 1030 because they are the same price, it doesn't make any sense at all. GPUs are always more expensive than CPUs when you're trying to have a good balance of performance instead of getting one too powerful or too weak. Don't recommend him a GT 1030, it's very stupid.

>>60919958
What's the socket? AM3/AM3+?

>>60919968
a 1030 will literally bottleneck a pentiu. A 1030 is literally "I have no onboard video, but i need to use the PC right now." tier.

>>60920052
Even a GTX 1050ti will bottleneck a g4560, it's only when you reach 470 & above that it can't keep up

>>60920050
>The price doesn't matter at all

This is the entire point of asking for build advice with a budget. Money is the restriction.

>>60920052
This is false, the GT 1030 has 2GB of GDDR5. Proving much higher benchmarks than the integrated GPU itself. Runs all modern titles at good framerates on med-low settings at 1080p60


Boys, I can sit here all day and debate the use of the GT 1030 over the GTX 1050 Ti. You don't need to shit on a card because it's inexpensive.

>>60920074
Wait, you're the same guy from last thread that reddit spaced his posts?
Wew, you're on a roll today. First the shitty spacing and now shitty recommendations. You might wanna lurk more.

Could any of you guys recommend a good vertical monitor to go along with an 1440p main one?

>>60919903
>1 TB SSD
>450W Bronze
>95 dollar CPU cooler
There is so much wrong with this shit.

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>>60907417
Try overclocking CPU-NB (2500+ MHz) and RAM (1866+ Mhz) first, that's the bulldozer's bottleneck.

>>60920136
>Try overclocking CPU-NB
Watch him toast his NB without proper cooling

>>60920122
>not specifying issues but pointing them out as such

>>60920122
I feel like he made the build more expensive and less powerful. I've heard the stock ryzen cooler was pretty decent on its own is that not true?

>>60920158
CPU-NB refers to IMC clock, inside CPU, not to the NB itself. There's a separate CPU-NB voltage and a separate NB voltage in UEFI.

>>60920261
The default cpu cooler is good.

The aftermarket cpu cooler will assist in higher overclocking.

>>60920260
If you can't figure out why those items are retarded, you are must be the author of that stupid build.

>>60920283
Go back to /b/ to shitpost. You don't belong in /g/.

>>60920291
As soon as you stop posting your stupid builds moron.

>>60920122
>>60920260
>>60920283
I concur that your build is shit dude, sorry

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Hey guys, i'm gonna buy this today/soon, whats a good motherboard to go with it also is their any last minute adjustments I should make?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXFxqk

How do I trade in my 1070 for a 1080?

I'm trying to get to 1440p with high framerate

>>60920307
I'd drop both the m.2 and HDD and spend it on as large of an SSD as possible.

Build looks fine!

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Oh fuck this is a huge box.

>>60920307
Does Seagate still have a higher failure rate than other HDDs or have they fixed that?

>>60920280
>The aftermarket cpu cooler will assist in higher overclocking.
And that is a very nice way of killing your entire build by enabling "higher" overclocking while running an out of the box factory OC 1070 which MSI stats requires 500W minimum. So now you are not only going to OC while using below minimum specs. You are going to OC the CPU first over the GPU. Well done.

>>60919870
The main difference between that gaming monitor and the regular one is the refresh rate which, of course, determines the amount of FPS you can actually see using the monitor. 60 hz limits you to 60 fps for example. It's a matter of preference, I run a 1070 with a 1080p/144hz monitor and I love it because the difference between 144 FPS and 60 FPS is silky smooth. If you don't care about that go ahead with the 1440p/60hz monitor, as it's also much cheaper than that gaming one.

A word on your build - unless you're specifically gonna use DVD/CD stuff, you really don't need a writer. You can look online for drivers if they don't install automatically, and Windows itself can be installed using a USB. Also, I don't know how much storage you need, but it might be worth it to spend the money you would on your SSD/HDD combo on just a bigger SSD.

>>60920326
With steam library management being a thing, there is no reason to spend on a large SSD.

>>60920336
I only know that Hitachi is the top of the game of reliability for the past decade.

But I only recommend purchasing SSDs now. Only get an HDD if you need mass storage.

>>60920332
What's in the box? A case?

>>60920342
>MSI stats requires 500W minimum

Post evidence of this, because the card runs at 150W. The total system build uses ~320 watts with 130 watts headroom for overclocking which is plentiful and necessary.

>>60920343
Yeah I kinda need the storage space for music and stuff. I'm capping a TB on my laptop currently. Also need the optical to review CDs for the radio station I volunteer at.

I'm struggling to justify the extra expense for the 144hz. Is the difference that big of a deal to you?

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>>60920332
>>60920376
Exactly 8 gummy bears

>>60920377
hurdur what are powerspikes, hurdur what is overclocking, hurdur what is leaving more room than needed, hurdur what is changing components

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hJB4VY

Last minute thoughts?
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger and buy (most of) it tonight.

>>60920384
What's in that box in the box now?

>>60920377
you really should stop pretending to be knowledgeable

>>60920377
>450 W bronze
>PSU RUNS AT 100% EFFICIENCY
>130 W HEADROOM
Wew lad. Stop.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QgZ7h

Mainly gonna be playing older games (Vampire the Masquerade, Deus Ex, DOOM + Mods, etc.)

Also doing extremely light programming.

This should be enough to last at least two years, right?

Itt: redditors not knowing that the 3GB 1060 has less cores than the 6 and is in general a piece of shit. They also seem to have absolutely no idea how to get the most for their money. People keep posting lists with so much wasted money on cpu cooling, overpriced RAM ssd case etc that it would be enligh to bump the GPU up a full tier.

>>60920392

Those 580s are out of stock man! I'd go with a GTX 1060 6GB

>>60920392
Doubt the x370 is needed but looks good to me.

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>>60920384
>>60920401
I guess this thing.

>>60920377
>running a PSU at over 65% utilization
wew sure hope you don't mind $600 power bills.
Back to le pcmr with you and your corsair keyboard

>>60920418
Drop the SSD and HDD and go with one large SSD.

Go for two 4gb RAM sticks instead of one 8gb stick. You're essentailly doubling your memory bandwidth by utilizing dual-channel memory.

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>>60920413
>>60920377
Just in case you don't get what I mean.
So a 450W bronze psu in the worst case scenario gives you optimal 369 watts. Can you see why people are calling you a fucking moron and asking you to stop posting your shit builds?

>>60920446
That sure is a thin case, i wish you good luck mounting your PC in there and doing the cable management

>>60920459
That still leaves headroom for overclocking.

Stop samefagging and causing drama.

Whats the best B350 motherboard?

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>>60920446
he fell for the meme

>yfw

>>60920379
In the context of your build, I would not spend 800 dollars on it, no, especially when there is a perfectly fine 1440p/60hz monitor for half the price.

However, I did some looking and found a 1440p/165hz monitor for around the same as that 60hz monitor. Now, if this monitor is as good as it seems (be sure to always thoroughly research products!), I personally would spend a bit more on it. It also has G-Sync which is pretty great. Here it is:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwgPxr/dell-s2417dg-238-165hz-monitor-s2417dg

>>60920482
What happens in a power spike moron?
With that little headroom why are you buying a 95 dollar CPU cooler for? You certainly aren't going to achieve any speed worth justifying the cooler price?

The fact that you think a PSU runs at 100% efficiency all the time already shows how moronic you are. Stop posting.

>>60920482
>Stop samefagging
it's time to understand that your opinion is shit instead of thinking that only one guy is out against you

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>>60920516
>>60920520

>continues to samefag

1060 or WAIT 4 580?

1060 6gb for $240 good?

got a 5400 rpm drive and a 7200 rpm drive. should i choose the lower one for video files and the larger one for gaming?

>>60920538
>1060 or WAIT 4 580?
Sure
>1060 6gb for $240 good?
Depends on which model.

>>60920536
funny that you posted that picture instead of giving an actual rebuttal

>>60920536
Now you are just shitting up the thread with with your post instead of shitting it up with your bad builds. I certainly hope no one in this thread is actually stupid enough to have followed any of your retarded builds.

>>60920549
Pretty much yeah, you don't need high bandwidth to store and read small video files, and you'll get noticeably faster loading times in your games.

>>60920549
Game on an SSD. With steam library management, even a small SSD (256) is good enough to play all your games on

>>60920538
Wait for 580 if you really want a bit extra performance / have a Freesync monitor / hate Nvidia jewery.

Generally a $240 1060 is pretty good, that's around the same as the 580 MSRP, but there seem to be cheaper ones if you live in America.

>>60920549
>small files
is anime considered small? some of the bloated coalgirls rips are like 1gb+ but thats fine right?

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>>60920446
>>60920477
Fits full size CPU coolers and GPUs, not worried at all.

>>60920580
Yeah, that's not big. Even a 50GB video file wouldn't have any problem, except if you try jumping around in it instead of watching it normally.

>tfw fighting urge to build another PC

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>>60920557
>>60920612
this will be fun.

>>60920614
Why would you need to build another one, anon?

>>60920550
>>60920572

Thanks for advice guys.

>>60920645
I have zero need for it. I just want to do it. Hence fighting the urge.

dont really pay attention to pc news. is ryzen gonna be the standard now for pc builds?

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>upgraded to 16gb ram from 8
>firefox with a bajillion addons doesnt lag anymore
feels gud to fall for the meme.

>>60920685
it depends on the needs, for AAA gaming it's usually recommended indeed because the 1600 offers great performance at a great price, while both offering a decent stock cooler and having the ability to overclock for enthusiasts

>>60920668
I'm sure you could build a system for one of your friends or family members if they need it. Maybe you could volunteer/get paid to do it on craigslist or some shit.

Or you could buy a bunch of really cheap parts and build it, take it apart, and rebuild it, and see how fast you can do it each time. Like a speedrun, since this seems to be a recreational thing to you.

>>60920695
>Firefox

>>60920685
For basically every gaming build, that's what it seems like, yes. Makes me feel bad that I had to build my current rig a few months before Ryzen actually released :^(
Ryzen isn't really standard for editing and really high-end workstations, but threadripper may be really good for that. We'll see.

>>60920727
For every budget gaming build sure. But you know morons are going to still spend the premium for a 7700k for the status and minimal increase in performance. I have recommended Ryzen to 2 of my friends but both insist on getting a 7700k and of course they are getting the 1080ti to go along with it.

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Going to buy this in a minute
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kGM6bj
Any last minute changes?
Is everything compatible?

Ryzen is recommended a lot now, but desu feel that AMD is gonna disappear again and Ryzen will loose support.

>>60920812
Get a better cpu cooler than the stock one for the power it seems that you'll want to move.

>>60920812
>M.2 boot drive for a non-VM system
>fullmod 80+ Gold PSU
You can do better than this

>>60920812
Looks decent. But you might need a aftermarket CPU cooler to OC your 1700 to keep up with your 1080ti.

>>60920850
Fully modular PSU is aesthetic as fuck.
Please no hate.

>>60920850
Recommendations?

>>60920818
Well desu is wrong, Intel can't do anything really interesting against Ryzen so they'll be keeping the CPU spotlight for a decent amount of time.

>>60920866
A good 240-275GB SATA SSD that's about half the price of the drive you currently have
You will see almost no benefit from a NVMe drive with normal usage unless you either
>need peak write speeds in excess of 1000MB/s
or
>need multiple simultaneous read/write threads

Semi-mods are cheaper and gets rid of all of the excess cables that you won't use. The CPU and motherboard ATX cables are permanent, which should not be an issue at all in your build.
>>60920863
>b-b-but muh aesthetics
He can always buy sleeved cable extensions if he wants aesthetics, but that's a waste of money since he doesn't even have a windowed case

Desus, why is -5V rail removed from 24 pin? seems like a troll to novices to PC building/assembly.

Is there going to be much difference in performance between a 1600 and 1700 @ 1440p?

>>60920945
No

So quick question about cases.

My current case is a bit to small, do I'm looking into bigger ones.

Is Cooler Master worth the price tag attached to it, or are there other good sized cases I should be looking at?

>>60920945
0 difference

>>60920945
@1440p the bottleneck will mostly be your GPU in the newer games. Unless you are playing games like CSGO or LoL but again those won't be an issue.

>>60920968
Look at any of the top brands
>Cooler Master
>Corsair
>Fractal Design
>NZXT
>Phanteks

Pick whatever you like best, read the reviews.

>>60920961
>>60920971
>>60920976
Alright, I'll just OC the 1600 then. Is the stock cooler going to be enough for a 3.7~ OC or should I get an aftermarket cooler?

>>60921015
Look at the benchmarks. Iirc it should be fine.

>>60921015
I can do 3.7 on my R7 1700 stock cooler (1.25v~, could go lower though) so you'll be fine

>>60920989
Well shit, thanks anon. Looked up corsair cases and found done amazing looking cases that cost half ad much add the cooler master I was looking at. That'll do me.

Fairly unrelated question, is there a noticeable difference between Ryzen 1600 and 1600x?

>>60921061
Only difference is the 1600x overclock better.

>>60921082
Well, I usually don't mess with overclocking usually, do ill probably just stuck with the 1600

Full ECC support AM4 motherboards when?
AM4 motherboards with IPMI when?

>>60921082
>>60921100
1600x is already overclocked and warranty'd. Probably the reason why it doesn't come with a fan.

>>60921129
My asrock mb got a bios update but I didn't see an update on the memory QVL. I'm still not sure what ram to get.

>>60921129
Zen+

>>60921345
>>60921345
>>60921345

NEW THREAD

>>60920812
1TB HDDs die like files in my case, especially Seagates (not that this has any statistical relevance ofc), so I switched to WD Black because it has 5 year warranty, so this is something to consider.

>>60911352
It's extreme overkill. Grab a 1060 or 1070.

>>60906750
MORE MATURE!!!!