/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Post your component list; rate other anons'; ask questions in general.
fuck you, can't tell me what to do.

>>60899505
this was put at the very top so that people would stop coming in here asking us to make their build for them

I'm looking to buy a cooler for my rx 480. I was interested in the Arctic Xtreme IV but I fear it won't fit in my ENERMAX ECA3351A-BT(U2) which is 390 MM if i remove the SSD bracket out. The card itself is 288 mm and I know the heatsink on the rx 480 is in the middle of the card. Would this cooler fit in my case, and if not, what cooler would you anons recommend?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3ssad0qZuU

>>60899547
You can always slap an Accelero Twin Turbo 3 in there which is smaller than the Xtreme VI (one less fan & smaller heatsink) but still cools very well, but RX 480 don't really OC well so why do you wanna get a new GPU cooler in the first place?

>>60899689
Because my temperatures are way too high. On Overwatch I get about 87 C maxed out and I figured getting a cooler would lower the temperatures.

I'm also really big into 3D modeling software and do a lot of programs that revolve around that and drafting

>>60899740
>On Overwatch I get about 87 C maxed out
Wow, something is really wrong I never get that temps even in games like witcher 3 with r9 380.

>>60899771
my card is a reference model that may be why. I don't really want to buy a new GPU since I have a good one right now and i'm trying to save up money for more necessary things

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Hey guys how does my new build look?

How can I carry PC components on an international flight? (moving) I want to take my mobo, processor, RAM HDD. Willing to buy new case, PSU, and GPU is dying so need a new one anyway. Is this dumb?

>>60899916
gay

>>60899916
dusty
also, you are bad at taking pictures!

I thought the x16 port was broken on my MSI b350 pc mate, because their was not display coming from a 1050, but when I tested it on the x4 slot, it worked, and then I dug out my old hd series amd gpu, and it worked in the pic x16 slot.
Anyone have suggestions on what might be happening with the Nvidia card?

>>60899990
RMA it. DOA electronics happen

>>60900033
Really? but then why would the card work on x4, and the amd card work on x16, and the Nvidia worked on the old x16 as well on my intel build.

>>60899916
>no custom loop
>gpu sag

just go back to your consoles, kid

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good? Is it worth 870€? Or do i start again with ryzen?

tips appreciated

>>60900090
prepare to get 'zend, bitch, even though ryzen is objectively worse for gaming than intel!

nice cluster farm OP

what's the boards and are you using ipv4/6 over usb?

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Best 1500€ desktop + monitor setup I could get nowadays?
Should I wait for Vega? (when is that even supposed to be released?)

>>60900101
You are objectively retarded and shouldn't be posting anywhere.

Are there any sub 200$ rx 570 or 480 listings anywhere?

Is getting a 1060 with an R5 1600 a bad idea? I mostly play rocket league. Would get Rx580 but can't find one

>>60900192
>rocket league

dude thats way over powered
just grab a cheaper radeon

unless you have multiple monitors that are all 4k

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This really is
/vgcag/ - Video Game Console Assembly General

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>>60900147
son, you are shit out of luck for the next 6 months

enjoy not mining crypto

>>60899965
It's not dusty at all, faggot.

>>60900090
Doesn't 7500 come with the cooling. If so why additional fan?

>>60899657
I wouldn't want to be Intel right now.

>>60900090
>Or do i start again with ryzen?
see:
>>60899657

Is 700 dollars enough to build a good gaming pc?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JN6pkT
Should I keep the ryzen or swap it for the i5-7600K

>>60900597
honest answer 7600k will be slightly better for games as long as you won't do much stuff in background. 1600 will be better for pretty much everything else and is cheaper.

>>60900647
Interesting, ill keep that in mind.

>>60900090
7500 + cooler is retarded when 1600 + stock cooler costs the same and offer better performance

I want to get either a 1080 or 1080ti.

I'm building mostly for gaming. Some 3D rendering and art. Possibly music production.

Should I go R5, R7, or the i7 7700k?

>>60900597
>should i go for a 4 cores 4 threads CPU
I personally wouldn't because i'm not the kind to enjoy sudden FPS drop and high CPU usage during gaming, but heh you do what you want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI

>>60900722
I'd say R5 1600 should be plenty enough for the productivity stuff you do and do great in gaming. 1700 should only be considered if you tend to run multiple of these productivity software at once (multitasking)

>>60900731
So the ryzen would be better for a cheaper build (what i'm shooting for)?

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How did I do?

>>60900795

Breddy gud/10

>>60900777
I'd be better for pretty much everything but playing Arma 3 and emulating very CPU intensive games on newish emulators
That includes being better at price

What is the best/ most cost effective air cooler for i7 7700k?

Are Gainward GPUs OK? I used to own one and it was fine but that 15 years ago. How are they now?

>>60900822
Nice, thanks

>>60900822

> on newish emulators

You should see what the PS3 emulator (even in its infancy) does to corelets.

>>60900824

All depends on how far you want to push it.

>>60900824
>>60900843
not too far at all

>>60900795
Is that RX 580 doing something or is it that hot on idle?

I edited my build from the last thread
>>60897957
Forgot I had to add a mouse and keyboard. Is this better? I like the mouse but I don't care if the keyboard gets changed.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/XXzHxr

>>60900852

Then any old cooler rated for 150w or so will do. Generally speaking when it comes to air coolers they are all the same shit (for a given size) until you go BIG air in which case...its all the same shit but will cool 300w monsters.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zZQcLD

My brother wants a PC for playing vidya at 1080p. He absolutely wants an Intel CPU, so no Ryzen, and I don't think he'll change his mind on this. What is a decent motherboard to go with the above, preferably at a reasonable price? Some of the budget options I could find are Gigabyte GA-H270-HD3, MSI H270 PC-MATE and ASRock H270 Pro4, any good?

Also, anything else that can be improved?

>>60900901
Tell him to fuck off and get a ryzen or no help. You shouldn't enable family members to throw away their money

>>60900901
>he absolutely want an Intel CPU
then your brother is a faggot and i don't enjoy spending time recommending parts to faggots

>>60900901
>He absolutely wants an Intel CPU
And we'll absolutely not help him. Fanboyism is discouraged.

Tell him that he's on his own.

is the node 202 a meme?

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>>60900944
>>60900933
>>60900924

>mfw I actually made a Ryzen 1600 build before this and he almost agreed to it before one of his friends got him to change his mind again
>mfw this was after I barely managed to talk him out of getting an overpriced prebuilt

desu he really is an incurable pleb when it comes to technology

>>60900860
It stays at around 53ºC with 0% Fan speed, so it's completely silent on idle, case fans on minimum speed (Corsair Carbide Spec Alpha comes with 3 fans and 3 speed modes, first 2 modes are silent, airflow is good) and it stays at those temps no problem, fan never goes up from 46% and 74ºC on 100% GPU usage, in my opinion it starts getting loud at 50% or more so it's pretty good.

>>60901010
Pentium G4560 is actually the only good Intel processor right now for the money, i3 performance for really low price, decent for 1080p60fps with a mid tier graphics card.
7700k is good for high FPS gaming (120/144Hz monitor required or it would be a waste), but still a Ryzen 5 1600/Ryzen 7 1700 is better for everything else that isn't gaming, also it won't make a difference if you have a mid tier or lower graphics card.

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>>60900901
>He absolutely wants an Intel CPU
Tell him to stop being a retarded child or no help, easy as that.

>>60900587
Generally yes but GPUs are likely to be sold out so you'd have to resort to a 1050Ti or something.

>>60900860
Isn't that normal for amd cards, my stays at about 50C idle with fans turned off and then turns them on as usage goes up. Generally stays at 60C even on high usage.

>>60900192
I had to pay 300€ for a RX 580, but I got lucky to get one.

A few minutes after I ordered they were all gone.

MY PARTS ARE ARRIVING TOMORROW IM SO EXCITED

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Hi /g/

I'm planning on building a new pc myself.
To save some money I decided I'd reuse some parts from my old prebuilt pc (alienware x51)
I'm quite new to this so please give me recs.

Parts I'm going to keep:
Power supply: 240W (or get a new 600W one)
CPU: i5 2320 (if I'd get a new one it would be ryzen 1500x)
Memory: 2x8GB
HDD: 1TB

New parts:
GPU: 1050 Ti
SSD: samsung 850 evo 250GB
CPU cooler: be quiet pure rock
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M Pro4
Case: looking for a soft pink one, like enermax ostrog, but can't find ones that ship to the Netherlands

Not sure if I'm missing something.
It's my first time building myself, I've only once before helped someone
I'd appreciate your help with the old & new parts and maybe you can give me recs or alternatives c:

>>60901618
Sounds solid, definitely go for the 600W PSU since 240W is ridiculously low.

The motherboard you listed is socketed for a AM4 CPU, not your current i5, so only switch that up if you're going for the 1500x (in which case you can ditch the aftermarket cooler since ryzens are very good)

>>60901618
>>60901698
Something I forgot to list is if you're going for the B350 motherboard you'll have to change up your RAM, I suppose you have DDR3 now, the B350 motherboard is only DDR4 compatible. Once again, only go for the new motherboard if you,re going for the ryzen, in which case you would benefit from investing a bit more into higher speed DDR4 (like 3000 or 3200 mhz) since ryzens really benefit from them. Just make sure your motherboard can handle the DRAM overclock.

>>60901618
>keep i5 2320
>new motherboard
>if I'd get a new one it would be ryzen 1500x
you're forced to get a new one if you get a new mobo

>>60901618
If RAM is DDR3 I would say the only thing worth keeping is the 1 TB HDD, so you are basically buying a new PC anyways.

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The purpose of my PC is to play TES, Dark Souls series, Fallout series,Terraria, Overwatch, and find new games to play.
My budget is around $1,400 mark but I can push it to $1,500 if I need to.
1080p 144hz on high/max settings for games.


https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ

>>60901741
Thanks!
I honestly didn't know that.
So I can just keep the motherboard if I keep the CPU?
And would you recommend getting DDR4 ram then, is that compatible with the cpu? sorry am noob

Maybe it was asked before but should I trust Asrock mobos now? I have very bad experiences with them but the i/o is much better than on alternatives. Do they die very quick still?

>>60901882
Dark Souls games run at 60fps and a 1050ti is enough to play DS2 4K 60fps, DS1 1440p60fps (very awfully optimized) and DS3 1080p60fps, even with a Pentium G4560 processor.
Overwatch is the same, and Fallout series all are older games so those too, Terraria runs on a toaster.
Your build is pretty good and enough for these games, tho I would recommend you change the PSU to the EVGA G series instad.

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Hey lads,

I've got an unusual project I'm working on right now. Pic related, it's the aesthetic I'm going for (Retrofuturistic, industrial/mainframe-ish look)

Right now I'm mainly looking at cases - I'm an experienced case modder and will be modding the hell out of it.

The cases I'm looking at right now are...

-Thermaltake Level 10 (Would love the titanium edition if I can find it cheaply enough)

-Obsidian 900D, though I've never been a fan of the corsair cases

-SS TJ* (11, 08, 07, one of the behemoth ones)

Any suggestions?

>>60901934
They are good now, the B350M Pro4 mobo is the best mATX there is at the moment, Gigabyte is the one to avoid now with their shitty VRM solution, and MSI has 1 shitty B350 board (Gaming Pro)

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>>60901965
Case is the one I'd really like I think, but it's absurdly expensive.

Also, in case someone chimes in with a suggestion of racking - I have a few 4U server chassis laying around, but I'm at university and my rack is still back home soooo rackmount is out of the question, even though that would fit the aesthetic nicely.

Why do all RX480s cost like $600 now? And there's only like 2 models on newegg? I was waiting for them to fix the heating issues, and now the prices are doubled. wtf

>>60901217
Why are they about to be sold out?

Question for you, lads.
I was checking compatibility between my mobo (Msi carbon) and RAM (G.skill 3200).
On the Msi website, the names line up except for the last letter (16GVKB =/= just 16GVK). Is that important? Is the last letter just for color or something ignorable?

>>60902017
jews

>>60901945
could you tell me why you'd recommend that part pls?

>>60901945
would you recommend me anything else? like is a SSD necessary?

>>60902107
SSD is not necessary, but it sure is nice - and honestly just save up for a little longer and jump for the SSD.

>>60902135
its not like I cant afford one now. I have $3k to play with roughly but I don't want to put it all into a PC that I may not use as often as I'd like...

Any suggestions on an SSD and PSU?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ

Hello, I use a leaf blower to blow out the dust from my computer, am I doing anything wrong?

>>60899547
you know, this is why you buy a decent aftermarket card. with a good cooler.
like the Sapphire Nitro+

>>60900090
Read the OP. you should start again with ryzen.

>>60900123
Hard to say regardin your budget. High end monitors can be as expensive as a hihg end graphics card, so you will have to balance things out.
>>60900192
I´ts fine. go for it.

>>60900587
yeah. you can easily beat the new Xbox one X(for comparison) with that budget.

>>60900597
I would personally drop the 1600X fro the 1600 and drop the cooler. and get a GTX 1060

>>60900722
I have the R7 1700 and love it so far, I'd say go for it if you´re doing any kind of content creation. (just pair it with fast RAM)

>>60901618
the NEW pc sonds great. I just don´t see anything other than the HDD worth saving

>>60901882
1080p at 144Hz is one of the few cases where INtel beats the current AMD lineup. if you DON´T plan on streaming or doing content creation or productivity, I'd go witht the i7 7700K, that said, the newer games will probably be optimized for multiple cores and threads. ANd that intel socket is dead in the water for upgrades.

>>60901934
I built a 1600 / rx480 build with an asrock ab350 pro4 atx, shit has been solid as a rock since launch.

>>60902163
If you can afford one get one.

If you're not committed to your rig, maybe purchase used and get a really dank system for even cheaper than your current $1200?

Re: specific recomendations - I've been out of tech for too long to field specific recomendations, but I've always been a fan of the Intel and Samsung SSDs. PSUs, I would insist on an 80+. I've always liked Seasonic, but Silverstone and Corsair aren't terrible choices either. Beware the faggots who will tell you to get a kW or even 700w; ime 500w is all you need and a nice 80+ gold or plat with modular cabling.

>>60901934
AsRock has been gret this past two years or so

the best AM4 MoBos come from them.

the Taichi is the best X370 and the AB350m is the best mATX board for the price

>>60901974
Right, thanks, it was weird that they offer 6 sata and 2 m.2 on a 350 board. Great value if they don't break down like ten years ago.

>>60902320
Keep in mind that using the first m2 port disables one SATA port. I was just researching a build based on that board.

Though I think I'll hold off on building my new PC until miniITX Ryzen boards hit, I'm waiting for Vega anyway.

>>60899921
I just sold my old stuff and bought new stuff secondhand.

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Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A78T-E (AM3) 46 °C
Graphics
LG TV (1360x768@60Hz)
8192MB ATI Radeon RX 480 Graphics (XFX Pine Group) 45 °C
Storage
465GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00E4A0 ATA Device (SATA) 36 °C
931GB Hitachi HGST HTS721010A9E630 ATA Device (SATA) 28 °C
Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected
Audio
USB Audio Device

how bad I need to upgrade my CPU/monitor

>>60902379
Good to know but that's still fine. My big issue is the 4 sata while having an optical drive.

>>60902313
>>60902279
Same to you, thanks for the input. Glad they fixed their shit.

>>60902291
So my psu is a good one to use then?

And I'll get an ssd, how many gb you recommend?

Just got an Email saying that the 580 I ordered two days ago cannot be dispatched because "they are unable to supply it anymore".
I fucking hate these mining cucks

>>60902409
>1360x768
>RX480 8GB
what the fuck, anon?

well depends on what you´re doing with your PC. but I would personally upgrade all the pc but the graphics card.

Ryzen is pretty great. get a 1080p monitor at least. the difference is huge and well worth it.

and it shouldn´t even be expensive. you can get a freesync 1080p monitor for like $150
and the whole ryzen plataform is not very expensive too (only that you have to get DDR4 RAM, which is expensive ATM).
>>60902501
yeah, but the eth mining will end in a month
or two

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ
pls keep rating

Want to spend around 800-900€ on cpu, Mobo, GPU and RAM. Maybe even an air cooler if ryzen stock is not enough.

The problem is I can't fucking decide which ryzen and mobo should I choose. Any advice? I suppose a RX 580 8gb should work fine.

Main purpose is updating PC to stay fine for at least 5 years. I'm not a gayman but I'll play some games (1080 on high, i don't give a fuck about 4k). Apart from that I will be using the PC for processing access and Excel sheets and a little AutoCAD.

>>60902525
I know the resolution is Aids, as I have my pc hooked up to a 32 inch TV instead of a true monitor as I'm a poor fag.
This is what i was considering for an upgrade path, as I think I can by using everything that in the PC.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZhTmZ8

>>60902409
I'm on the same resolution with a Ryzen 1600 / rx480 build. I got the TV (Dynex 35 inch or something) like 5 years ago as a gift and cant bring myself to replace it yet. Only time it really bugs me is doing Premiere and After Effects work where the interface gets really cramped

>>60902678
It doesn't bother that much which why it isn't super on my list of things to replace

>>60902483
At least 120. A popular move is getting a 120 + a 1TB HDD or some other larger drive for data, with the ssd being a boot and critical applications drive.

I didn't look at your specific PSU, I'm simply too lazy and cba to open the link lol.

>>60902525
>eth will end
this horse shit it only just beginning
with the cut back in production stock will get worse till Q4

>>60902746
thats fine, i will go with at least 120gb.

Can someone put together a 1080p 60 fps high-ultra settings tower for me on pcpartpicker? My budget is fixed at 600$ but my dreams were smashed after radeon cards went out of stock.

What's pcbg's go to case fan recommendation?

Whats a good price for a (used) aftermarket 1070 in europe/germany ? every somewhat good offer is a scam on eBay.

Serious question : are A320 boards completely worthless? I never hear anyone mentioning them.

I'm building a budget PC for a family member and they sure don't know anything about overclocking and never will... wouldn't it be worth it in that case to save 30 bucks or so? Implying they'd already be more than fine with the stock speeds of course.

>>60902409
>955
>RX 480
wtf man

>>60902546
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ
looks good, go for it

>>60902632
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZhTmZ8
looks good. the MoBo is a bit expensive for my tastes, i would go with the AsRock AB350 Pro4, with a compatible RAM

>>60902982
>Serious question : are A320 boards completely worthless? I never hear anyone mentioning them.
That's probably because this thread is surrounded by tech enthusiasts. Once Ryzen 3 comes out I'm sure the extreme budget people will start buying them.

>>60902982
well. the cheapest A320 boards are only $10 less than the cheapest B350 boards.. So I'm not sure about the real budget implications of AB320

I would just go with the one that has better stability, build quality and a good I/O for the family and such.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NGFXzM

Will be an entertainment center and playing vidya, watching shows/movies, and maybe streaming.

Should be able to buy it by the middle of July or early august if things go well.

Still waiting for any mitx ryzen motherboard to get in stock.

>>60903282
>Kelvin Lake
>meh cooler
>meh mobo
>slow RAM
>meh SSD
>buying WD Blue in 2017
>EVGA "housefire" ACX
>overrated and overpriced Corsair case
>700W bronze PSU
>700W for this build
>USB WiFi
You did literally everything wrong.

Sorry for the needy request, but can someone help me pick out memory? I have a Msi x370 carbon (picked it up during a sale for ~100). Looking for 2x8, 3200.
Suggestions?

>>60903387
Expensive and excellent: G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL14
Price/performance: G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 CL16 or Corsair LPX 3000 CL15

>>60903219
I don't see Ryzen 3 beating the Pentium G. I predict those CPUs to be quite useless if they do not carry any iGPU.

>>60903424
Aren't AMD chipsets come with integrated video?

>>60903385
I honestly just went on part picker and tried out a design, it would help if I can get the most for the price.

>>60903385
That's kinda why he posted his build before buying anything.

>>60903436
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NGXV9W
This would be a better value, you can also get 8gb of ram to save some money. SSD and HDD are more reliable, cpu is better and the stock cooler is solid.
The case is overpriced, but if you like how it looks go for it.

>>60903434
No, but APUs (CPU + integrated GPU) are planned later this year

what's the best ryzen cpu for gayming? the 1700 or the 1600x?

>>60903735
1600x until zen+ is released next year

>>60903656
Looks good, but I was told that a CPU cooler was nonnegotiable. Was I lied to? Also How many fans should i get, I was thinking maybe just one in front and one in back to circulate airflow

>>60902589
A 1600 should last you long but you can always get the 1700 to ensures it to last longer and performs better in your CAD software & excel sheets (if for some reason you happen to be the kind to load thousands of sheets every few seconds or something)
900€ might be tight for a 1700 though, that should leave you between 230 ~ 260€ for the GPU (assuming 16GB RAM), so you might wanna check for sales

>>60903743
>Was I lied to?
Yes
For Intel the stock cooler is pretty shit, it tends to be noisy and can heat noticeably at time, but it's still fine to keep in itself
For AMD the stock cooler is pretty decent, it's very very quiet and cools decently (can even handle some decent overclocks)

>>60903436
>if I can get the most for the price
Assuming a budget of $1200: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xWDQsJ
The cooler is optional but recommended if you want OC higher than 3.7GHz.
550W PSU is enough but 650W will give you more headroom and better efficiency, it's $10 more at most, i recommend it.

guys what is the difference between ryzen x with non x?
are all ryzen cpus came with stock cooler ?

>>60903783
Well I got a new topic to talk about with my friends now, thanks for clearing that up. Now about the 2 fans would that be needed or not. I live in an area that could reach about 102-105 degrees Fahrenheit in very extreme circumstances but mostly during summer we teeter at about 89-94 degrees Fahrenheit. Also will be adding a DVD drive since they are relatively cheap.

>>60903743
The advice I can give you is that you might need two fans at the front. I have a master case 5 and i have one at the front blowing on the hard disks but I'm planning to get a second one because the gpu heats up the middle a bit too much.

>>60903083
i changed it to a ryzen 5 1600, is this still good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ

>>60903829
X can go up to higher clock speeds. Not all of them have stock coolers check specs.

>>60903385
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ

you should rate mine, i like how critical you are

>>60903829
1600x, 1700x and 1800x do not come with a cooler. The rest do, including the 1500x.
The X versions have a tendency to clock higher than their non-X version, have higher clocks and have better XFR (better per-core clock boost)
Getting an X version is rarely worth it

>>60903895
>>60903865
>>60903829
>>60903895
so the zen+ will be new ryzen cpus for next year right?
are ryzen is good for emulation and gaming?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XvfmP6/asus-monitor-pg279q

Everyone is telling me to go with the dell monitor because the asus has qc problems, dead pixels, insane backlight bleeding,absurd IPS glow and I won't be able to reach even the 120hz of the monitor with a 1080ti and ryzen 1700, what is your suggestion anons?

>>60903878
>white theme
>mobo not white
Absolute shit. Kill yourself, then delete that abomination of build and get the msi arctic whatever.

>>60903895
So 1400 or 1500x? I just can't justify to spend more than 200 on a cpu or gpu. Btw how is oc on 1400 with its inferior cooler.

>>60903965
im not going for a theme really. can you be less critical now and tell me what i did wrong with my build pls

>>60903979
The build is fine. Imo the 3tb hdds are the most cost effective but that's not so important.

>>60903878
>PC MATE
Overpriced. Get cheaper Asus B350-Plus or ASRock Pro4. Other options are Tomahawk Arctic for muh white power gaymen theme and Gigabyte Gaming 3 for ALC1220 audio.
>SanDisk SSD PLUS
Shit SSD, get PNY CS1311.
>memegate
Do i need to say more?
>EVGA G2
G3 is like $5 more and will give you almost platinum efficiency.
>HyperX II
The original ones are great, those suck. Also consider Headphones + mic.

>>60903988
its fine? so its not a cheapo crap build? its mid tier at least?

also is the monitor a good choice or should i get another 144hz

>>60903942
Ryzen are indeed good at emulation and gaming. Intel is noticeably better at emulation but it generally doesn't matter as the vast majority of emulated system aren't cpu heavy enough to make any difference from a ryzen CPU to an intel one
For gaming the $315 (+ cooler) 7700k is the best as it can hit the highest framerate out of every CPU, but the rest of Intel's lineup is pretty meh as the i5's 4 threads cause it to get FPS drops in quite the bunch of games (Watch Dogs 2, BF1, GTA V, Witcher 3 to name a few) making both the 1500x & 1600(x) a better choice than any i5 in general

>So 1400 or 1500x? I just can't justify to spend more than 200 on a cpu or gpu. Btw how is oc on 1400 with its inferior cooler.
The 1400 is pretty shit, it has half the cache and lower clocks (+ worse cooler) than the 1500x causing noticeably lower framerate. It's performs generally the same as the $75 G4560 (although it does get less FPS drops, but that's not worth costing more than double the price)

>>60904033
>>So 1400 or 1500x? I just can't justify to spend more than 200 on a cpu or gpu. Btw how is oc on 1400 with its inferior cooler.
Forgot to quote >>60903975

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>>60904018

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ

Alright, how does it look to you now?

>>60904042
Alright thx

Which Ryzen cpu outperforms the 7700k?

>>60904033
the cache only makes a large difference if you have a higher end GPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u1hd_7nUaw

and the cooler isn't as bad as it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCqwk4N36c

if you're looking to pinch pennies anywhere, then going with the 1400 over the 1500x wouldn't hurt. Personally I would spend the extra $20 on the 1600 before going for the 1500x.

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I want to be able to run Doom 4 and Dishonored 2 at max settings at 144FPS 1080p. Is this build good for such a desire?

>>60904176
Kk thx again. I'll consider about it

FUCK ALL THE MINERS

I WANT TO KILL THEM

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>Post your component list;
I have the RX 470 and I'm not a miner. You jelly?

>>60904279
That build is likely overkill, but in that regard it is somewhat futureproof.

>>60899488
male to male sata data adapters
housefire?

>>60904434
That's good to know. I have enough money to spend at the moment and I just want something that will be able to play games very well for a long time.

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>>60904425

>>60904425
>keeping it instead of selling for free upgrade

>>60904425

no just feel sorry for you

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>>60904459
I don't wan't to burn my house man GET REKT GREENS <------ lmao that was a dank meme i r89 r9001 390/3.5gb of v for vendetta ram, novidiots be like do a 1080 and walk awayy lmao, 144 wayy sly novideo grillforce gtx 480 clocked at 3.5hz 1080p 3.5 fps gimpworks edition, human eye can see only 3/5 ram anyways, nivea water boiler titanal FE(fanboy edition) at 3.5p, envidia fryforce shitan rascal 1080shiTi at 87.5% GTX(GetTheXtinguisher) (ngreedia pisscal thermi "malware experience" burning sillayy bridges edition with GreedSync support) + krappy fake $hilltel gore i$emen at 7700K (Kelvin) maybelake i911 delidlake cancer core jewtel 2066 killowatt "cooler not included in a box" coffin lake "end of life" edition at 0.90 GHz (a.k.a. Inferno Bridge) inteLELite "another late edition" <------ i0 r8 dat meme 2400/3200 of dance dance revolution ram. 8GiB? What do you need 4GiB for? I'm giving you 3.5GiB! mumble mumble 3.5!?!?!? mumble mumble mumble 390?!?!?!

>>60904461
looser

>>60903859
yes

>>60904064
good

>>60904279
>7700k
absolute shit

>>60904434
>7700k
>futureproof
no

>>60899501
A sign of weakness. Scared of alternative opinions?

>>60904571
What do you recommend instead of the 7700k?

>>60904571
>good
Im having seconds thoughts about the mobo I chose, people say it has memory compatibility issues.
Any other good rec for a mobo?

>>60904592
Any Ryzen will do.

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>>60904613
No compatible ones.

>>60904279
How are you going to OC the 7700K with a B250?

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>>60904641

>>60904641
then get a different motherboard you mongoloid

>>60904656
because hes a retard

>>60904656
>>60904658
>>60904721
>>60904731
I apologize for my stupidity, I really don't have much of a clue as to what I'm doing.

>>60904749
You need a Z270 motherboard to OC a 7700K.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nGLCPs'

Rate this micro build for my gf so she can play Overwatch on a computer that isn't a fucking Yoga Book.

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>>60904774
Ah, thank you. How's this, then?

>>60904749

it's ok man, ignore the haters

by which i mean not the message that you're doing something wrong, cuz you should learn from your mistakes and escape ignorance

instead i mean the actual mean words

>>60904779

i'm a pleb but why not halve the HDD and get a SSD?

>>60904817
I don't mind people shitting on me if it means I don't fuck up majorly.

>>60904817
It would be a lot less than half is the issue...
I could get 120 gigs for the same price or just get a TB and move on.

>>60904816
Get PNY 240GB SSD, that 120GB SSD is much worse.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gG7GgL
Any issues with this build?

>>60904816
That's a mini-ITX board.
You're literally paying more money to shrink it. Just get a cheaper mATX board.
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130977
FYI, you can buy faster RAM, if you so desire. The board I posted supports up to 3800.

>>60904883
Looks good to me.

What are your intentions for it?

Is the 1500x worth the extra $25 over the 1400?

>>60904816
Also, your SSD isn't very good. For the same money, you can get an ADATA Ultimate SU800 or a PNY CS1311, both better drives.

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>>60904876
>>60904885
>>60904948
Better? Also I'd like to know if my 1070 is a decent version of the card, there's so many options to choose from for it.

>>60904125
1600 outperforms the 7700k in multitasking
Nothing outperforms the 7700k in gaming

>>60904986
All aftermarket brands for GPU are about the same. The only differences is the cooler designer and customer service.

>>60904986
Holy shit, why the 32GB of RAM?
Are you running specific applications that calls for it? I'd settle for 16GB and upgrade as necessary. You certainly don't need that for gaming.
If I had a Z270, I'd probably buy faster RAM as well. 2133 is the absolute minimum, and you'll see some gains by going higher.
Don't worry too much about which GPU brand. There are differences but it's not a big deal.

Thoughts on DG87?

Are RAM prices going down anytime soon? I want to get Ryzen and DDR4 with it but paying 140€ for 16GB 3200MHz doesn't feel great.

>>60905046
Replaced it with "Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory". It had pretty good reviews.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/#view=d92TWZ

help
do i buy all this?

>>60905146
seems good to me but you might wanna get a cooler to overclock the 1600, hitting 144hz usually require a pretty high cpu frequency except for light games

>>60905146
tell me your budget and see what I can do for you anon

>>60905113
They should start going down in Q4, at latest end of Q1 2018.

>>60905123
Remember to set the XMP profile when you build it, or the RAM will be slower. It's very easy to do.
Other than that, it looks fine.

>>60905187
Alright, thanks my friend.

>>60905146
I would tell people never to get the 1070 but since is 1080p144. Go ahead.

>>60905171
$1,500 for everyone, excluding a keyboard. I need a headset.
Pls help anon. I am very lost

>>60905252
and why exactly would you tell people to never get the 1070..

>>60905269

Because in the timeline that Ethereum crashed, RX-580 would be the ideal choice in any situation not involving TI's

>>60905269
Too niche. 580 and 1060 are better for 1080p. Anything upwards just pony up for the 1080ti. 1070 is only value for money when you are gaming at 1080p144hz.

>>60905292
>1070 is only value for money when you are gaming at 1080p144hz.
Perfect for me, then.

>>60905292
people tell me 60hz to 144hz is night and day and that i should spend the extra dough on a 144hz monitor.
this is my first build and im trying to learn as much as I can but its very easy to influence my decisions here

>tfw 2017 and still no $60 quadcore budget offering from intel

>>60905292
also is the mobo i chose good? if not what is a good one for me?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/#view=d92TWZ

>>60905318
Remember to get one with Freesync (AMD) or Kikesync (Nvidia) if you are getting a 144hz monitor or it is not worth your time.

>>60905333

>Budget
>(((Intel)))

>>60905334
Yeah that mobo gets recommended all the time. It is fine.

>>60905334
>getting a freesync monitor for an nvidia card

>>60905367
pls choose me a better 144hz monitor then, please.

>>60905392
www.144hzmonitors.com

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>>60899488
I'm building a I7-7700K / 1080TI build.

This is my first time in years building a PC. I want to go with liquid cooling this time. I do alot of PC gaming.

Is it worth it to liquid cool both the CPU and GPU? What edition of 1080TI should I get for liquid cooling?

Thanks.

>>60905261
meant to post this link sorry

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x3XV9W

>>60905412
Why do you want to Liquid Cool?
Extreme overclocking? Are you delidding your 7700k?

>>60905467
I'm not overclocking. I've never done it. But I wanted the low temps, and max performance.

>>60905442
Is that meant to be a gaming PC?
Are you planning to upgrade to do 144hz in one or two generations?

>>60905442
im not liking any of this anon. Also, why would my build sound like a train?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/#view=d92TWZ

>>60905476
If you are not overclocking there is absolutely no reason to get liquid cooling in the year of the lord +2017.

>>60905476
Then go with the ryzen 1600x almost same performance on games and 6 cores that are making the cpu more future proof

>>60905496
Noted. Will the heat cause wear or stress on the card?

>>60905412
>Is it worth it to liquid cool both the CPU and GPU?
Maybe? It depends on your needs
What do you do precisely that requires you to get both a 7700k, 1080ti and liquid cool them?
Liquid cooling is expensive and custom loops are quite dangerous, if you mess it up you can say goodbye to your expensive components. If it's something cool but not dangerous you want then get a beefy air cooler / AIO for the CPU, and get and an ugly artic extreme IV for the GPU
But liquid cooling isn't that much cooler

>>60905483
I guess? From what I've seen from his partpicker list he wants a gaymen pc

>>60905503
Sudden change of heat are very bad for components lifetime, as long as it's as your components are somewhere between 15 - 85°C and don't fluctuate that much there is no problem

>>60905485
Good luck then anon buy w/e floats your boat

>>60905503
Yes. That is true for all electrical components but your build will be obsolete long before heat kills your card via wear and stress so long as your fans are spinning 100% 24/7 because you are running furmark all day.

>>60905518
Because a 1060 isn't going to be hitting 144 often so I would recommend an IPS 1080p60hz monitor over a TN 1080p144hz monitor unless he games a lot.

>>60905412
FE (aka "stock") 1080 Tis have the same mounting points, GPU location, and VRM locations from different vendors, so they're the most numerous in terms of choices from waterblock makers. If you want more overclocking headroom, then buy either a Gigabyte AORUS, ASUS ROG Poseidon (has a built-in waterblock), or EVGA FTW3. The AORUS and FTW3 have the most number of waterblocks out of all the custom AIBs.

Find an MSI motherboard and buy their CPU Guard 1151 for direct die cooling on any Skylake or Kaby Lake processor, along with liquid metal thermal paste. Look up delidding videos for Skylake, they apply to Kaby Lake as well.

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>>60905412
>I7-7700K
W H Y
H
Y

>>60900090
Z chipset -> Locked CPU
Meme RAM

>>60905580
Gaming duh. The 7700k at stock beats the 1700x overclocked in a lot of games. Especially if you have a 1080ti which makes the bottleneck the CPU.

>>60904903
1080p gaming at 60 fps on high settings in most games.

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>>60900090
ryzen is better that turd

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>>60905593
no it doesn't and
>>>/v/

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Looking at PSUs for sale. Thinking about getting a gold certified 750w PSU. My build uses about 520w. I would like some wattage insurance and room to overclock a bit, should I choose to.

What are your thoughts about:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817171099 and https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151132 ? Both come out to $90 shipped (after rebate for the CM).

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Is the 980ti still relevant as a card capable of 1440p on AAA games? I have a 980ti classified and wondering if the 1080ti is worth the upgrade? Or should I wait for Vega?

The card is paired with a Ryzen 1700X and I do gaming on a 32" 1440p 60hz panel.

>>60905622
Source of those benchmarks?
The benchmarks I have seen state the reverse.

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508

>>60905650
>Have flagship card
>Upgrade after one gen
That is fucking retarded or you have a lot of money to burn

>>60905580
I haven't tried out Intel before, and I'm shooting for maximum game performance. I've heard the 7700K does a little better game-wise.

The last build I did was an AMD FX-4300 and a 2gb videocard years ago.

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>>60905650
If you're doing great with your current GPU then there's no need to get a new one, anon
Vega is soon and Volta isn't that far so by the time your GPU becomes too weak to play current games at 1440p max settings, there will already be a lot of new options for you to choose instead of going for the 1080 ti.

>>60905672
>and I'm shooting for maximum game performance
Why? Do you have a 144hz screen? If you don't it's a waste of money, anon.

What 1080p 60hz monitor should I get for a hundred clams

>>60905746
Check your local hardware swap or even pawn shop. I am sure there are plenty of working 1080p 60hz monitor that are going for 20 bucks if you aren't picky about the condition.

I'm still basically pre-planning my first build, and I've got a question that might be dumb:
If I want the ability to work with big data sets in excel, R, and python does my processor or memory matter more?
I work in data science, and I want to build a pc that could actually handle excel sheets with more than 50k rows unlike my i5 Apple desktop at work, but I'm not sure what price range I want.
I also like the idea of quality gaming, but I'm not sure how much of that I'd actually do.

Are NAS boxes generally a better investment than regular external HDDs?

>>60905664
A mix of both. I always like tinkering with new tech and the 1080ti and it's 2+GHz core clock was calling to me. I can only get my 980ti stable at 1686mhz and that's with LN2 BIOS, problem is I hit my thermal wall and it falls out of boost.
>>60905712
Yea I figured as much. Idk, when I didn't have money I used to buy a lot of low end or middle of the road parts that would need upgrading within a year. Now that I have a great job and buy more top shelf stuff, it feels odd to be able to keep parts for so long.

>>60905651
>Source of those benchmarks?
find it yourself you dumb nigger, reverse image search

>>60905810
you shouldn't be mean to people online

>>60905672
>I haven't tried out Intel before
keep it that way intel is shit now

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>>60905810
Kill yourself you fucking moron.
Hurr durr I don't post source and call people dumb morons. Literally go fucking kill yourself. You are a huge waste of oxygen and need to neck yourself real quick.

>>60905846
>I don't post source and call people dumb morons.
>Im a retarded lazy nigger and cant find the source spoonfeed me
ftfy

>>60905769
Obviously I dont need a monitor under 20 dollars, what would the best one I could order offline for a hundred dollars

>>60905880
>I post falseflags and then act like a nigger when called out
Wow. I guess this is how AMD gets a bad name. Literal retards doctoring benchmarks themselves and then hollering like monkeys when people question them. I'm done talking to shills. Have a nice day and then proceed to kill yourself at the end of it.

>>60905880
>Makes a claim something is true
>Has no source for claim
>"If you ask for a source for my claim, you are dumb!"
No anon.
It is you who is the dumb.

is the gtx 980 good?

>>60905880
>Anon ask nicely for source and post his own countering yours
>Proceeds to act like a nigger afterwards for no apparent reason
You need to stop

>>60905912
If you can get one for like $120, yeah. I had one before and it overclocks like a dream and has good performance at 1080p/1440p. It's basically on par with a current gen gtx 1060.

I'm an endless unbearable idiot who bought DDR3 ram for a DDR4 board.

I have a system that is supposed to pull around 306 wattz, I don't plan on doing any over clocking. could a 450 watt psu work?

>>60905923
you need to stop being a lazy newfag, dont come here expecting to be spoonfed

>>60906057
Fuck off moron. I am not even that anon but you are acting like an imbecile and giving AMD cpus a bad name with your shilling.

>>60906057
>Doubles down on lack of source
>"Claims don't need sources!"
Consider posting less often.

>>60906070
im not the one shilling, you are, stop being a lazy nigger and lrn to reverse image search

>>60906015
Technically yes.

>>60906078
consider reverse image search mong

>>60906082
>Post benchmarks with no source
>I'm not shilling
Stop. You are literally degrading this thread with every post you make.

>>60906096
consider not posting anymore mong

>>60906099
reverse image search you autistic cuck

>>60906125
stop posting you autistic cuck

>>60906133
Sorry i was being a dick, i apologize

>>60905846
Literally read those posts, damn stop acting dumb

>>60906096
He did. It came up as 4chan. How far does someone else have to go to source your own argument for you?
This is embarrassing. You are either mentally impaired or embarrassed and think continually returning to a bad argument saves you. Please adopt a trip so you can be filtered.

>>60906152
>Please read more of my shilling and falseflag from old post

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>>60906147
>>60906133
samefag shitpost

nice attempt to derail the thread intel shills

>>60906161
and read the 4chan posts and MAYBE you will find the source, you have such acute autism

>It is an anon resulting to post source and telling people to find it themselves episode
This has happened time and time again. This isn't the first time either. Just ignore the moron and move on. He won't post a source because he has none. His source is to tell you to go find it yourself.

>Average 1.5 (You) per Post
I would consider this (You) Generator Tactic to have a rather mediocre Effort-To-(You) ratio.

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>>60904986
Alright, final (I hope) version. If there's anything wrong with this, let me know.

>>60906198
Maybe you should stop posting.

So my ASrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 got the bios update for the memory stuff, but QVL memory list didn't update, what do?

>>60906220
>I lost the argument so im just going to copy and paste until my autism is appeased

>>60906200
Its the img_XXXX retard isn't him?
Just filter him. I know I added those to my filter list.

>>60906198
>and read the 4chan posts
>Sift through thread after thread in the hopes that maybe the source is there
Or, you know, the guy who made the claim can back up his statement with the source himself. Given that it's his argument.
You know, kinda like how claims are backed up in the real world?

>>60906218
intel is shit, consider getting a 1700 instead

>>60906235
No anon. You lost the argument because your only argument is to ask people to go look for your argument. Go fuck yourself moron and stop wasting our time.

>I can only back up my claims if you look into this obscure place that backs up my claims
>Can't find it? Must mean I am right

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>>60906247
i know it because thats how i originally found it, how are you so offended that the 1700x outperforms the 7700k

>>60906255
>>60906218
1700 is shit. Get the 7700k if you are gaming. This is a proper site with legit benchmarks showing why the 7700k is super to the 1700. http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508
Don't listen to AMD shills on 4chan with no sources.

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>>60906257
>the 1700x DOESN'T OUTPERFORM THE 7700k ITS NOT TRUE
go away intelcuck

>>60906286
>1700x outperforms the 7700k
>I have no source aside from this picture I photoshopped
>Just reverse image it DUDE
>Reverse image gives more post from fucking 4chan isn't of a legit site
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508
Wrong. You are wrong. This is evidence you are wrong. You should stop posting. Everytime someone says the 1700x is better at gaming, I am going to post this and tell them to shutup.

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details
4gb 480 (Sapphire nitro cooler)

'465gb' harddrive is in 2 partitions, it's actually 1tb

>>60906255
>>60906287
Is everything else alright, though?

>>60906305
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508
Wrong

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>>60906287
>the 1700 is shit
wow a intel cuck, how would have i ever guessed

>>60906320
You need to decide on the CPU first because that leads to different Mobo choices and RAM choices.

>>60906218
Looks solid.

>>60906286
>i know it because thats how i originally found it
Weak.
>how are you so offended
Weak.

Not only do you have no source, your trolling is a joke.

>>60906330
Nice no source faggot. Is that the best you got? You legitimately think the rest of the people is going to believe your shitty photoshop over my legitimate source with actual reviews and benchmarks? Keep posting them. You are only wasting your time.

>>60906287
>delidreviews.com
Okay.

>>60906346
did you not even look at the benchmark?

Goddamn why did you guys have to go trigger the AMD shill

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>>60906329
wow a quad core consuming more power than AMD's 8 core flagship at 4ghz what a fucking failure

>>60906357
>Ryzen 1800x
Sure thing familia

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CPU Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. Intel Pentium G4560 - $75+
>2. AMD Ryzen 5 1500x - $190+
>3. AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - $210+
>4. AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - $300+


Memory Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. 8GB (4x2) DDR4 2133mhz or 2400mhz $60+
>2. 16GB (8x2) DDR4 2133mhz - 3200mhz $120+


Storage Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. Any 2.5" 256GB Minimum SSD that fits your budget $90+


Video Card Recommendations as of June 14th:
>1. NVIDIA GT 1030 - $70+
>2. NVIDIA GTX 1050 TI - $125+
>3. AMD RX 580 4GB - $205+
>4. NVIDIA GTX 1070 - $375+


Go with a Micro ATX Motherboard unless you need the additional PCI-E lanes and accessories that an ATX motherboard has.

Plan on overclocking? Get an aftermarket CPU Cooler.

Go with a Micro ATX Case if you chose a Micro ATX Motherboard. Go with an ATX Case if you chose an ATX Case.

Get a minimum Bronze Certified PSU. Get a modular PSU if you have a windowed Case and/or the Case has poor airflow.

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>>60906346
>Nice no source faggot.
>Nice no source faggot.
>Nice no source faggot.
>no source
>no source
>no
>source
what do you think this is then autist

>>60906389
>NVIDIA GT 1030 - $70
worse then the 750 ti
complete shit

>>60906372
Wow look how hard I am backpedaling now that I can't prove 1700x performs better than the 7700k so I bring in the 1800x and power performance

>>60906392
Have you looked at the picture you posted moron? Do you see 1700x anywhere in the picture you goddamn autist? Seriously. Stop shitting up this thread.

>>60906411
i already proved it time and time again, fuck off img_xxxx

>>60906423
>moving your own goalpost
classic intel shills, never mind the fact that the 1700, 1700x and 1800x are all the same cpu

>>60906424
Nice no source faggot

>>60906437
>Hahaha the 1800x is totally the same as the 1700x
>I am definitely not moving the goalpost at all
AMD shills everyone. They post 1700x benchmarks and then can't source them. The ones they can source are for 1800x and they claim they are the "same". This is why no one ever takes you seriously in these threads.

Go ahead wallow in your own shit. I am going to stop replying to you cause there is more than enough evidence in this thread for everyone not retarded aka everyone else but you to see that 7700k is better than the 1700x when it comes to games.

>>60906441
>no source
really make me think >>60906392

New thread: >>60906481

>>60906480
Stop shitting up this thread. I agree. We all should stop replying to a fucking moron.

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>>60906470
all are 8 cores and all get to 3.8-4 ghz, piss off pajeet

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>>60906437
>the 1700, 1700x and 1800x are all the same cpu
You can tell that to eteknix.
Quality "review".

>>60906463
>>60906463

move when needed

>>60906492
they are you dumbass, sorry for the truth faggot

>>60906487
>starking a new thread before this one hits the bump limit
fuck off and die

>>60906505
There's already a new thread faggot

>>60906519
So I see.
That's why the 1800X gets another 15 FPS from another 100mhz.
Maybe eteknix isn't the best website for critical, professional CPU testing.

>>60906535
>started before bump limit
its a shit post thread, fuck off newfag

>>60906576
Your new thread header lacks mention of the 7700K.

There's no reason to be upset AMD can't compete, anon.

>>60903827
Looks good, but how would I go about installing a DVD drive?

Alright, Which parts get warranty usually?

>>60903965
>tfw fucked up my build and didn't wait for the white taichi since it was never in stock
fugg.

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should I keep using my old 955 desktop and old GPU for my HTPC, or is it worth selling it and doing a new build for power efficiency?

how power hungry is a 955? and is it's performance still good enough for video play back (intensive settings) and light gaming? (720p-1080p)?

>>60907053
its always in stock now

>>60907079
like a month too late. maybe i'll do the totally useless mobo replacement after i get the totally useless vive.

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>>60899488
Does anyone have advice on what I should upgrade for better /vg/ performance?

Graphics card only, or should I get a new CPU to avoid bottle-necking? This would probably make it necessary to get a new motherboard as well, as I'm running an FX-6300 (AM3+ socket).

>tfw poorfag

>>60903760
1600 then. Any Mobo in particular?

Would a Ryzen 1600 bottleneck a 1080 ti?

>>60900090
>i5 7500
This is a joke right?