/g/ BTFO by Linus from LTT

literally who?
also
>reddit
stay there

>>60894524
Linus Tech Tips, youtube faggot. Though I run linux he does make some fair points

>>60894524
>who
only one of the biggest tech youtuber on the planet

>>60894532
>>60894537
>youtube e-""""celebs""""
unless you're generation Z, why would you care?

>>60894507
>I'm a normie, let me do normie things

good for him

I'd take tech nigger's opinion more than this whitey

And I'm white.

>>60894524
That's Linus, creator of the Linux OS.

What is "work"?

>>60894507
>linus tells us what we already know
How surprise.

>>60894541
I don't care who he is, his videos are shit. I just said he makes a good point

>>60894507
Back to plebbit faggot

reminder that linus married a literal mutated martian roach who castrated him and told him it regretted marrying him

>>60894562
judging by how some of the people on this board act, they clearly do not know

>>60894550
Just 'cause the source is bad (presumably... I don't know any of these people) doesn't mean the explanation is bad.

If a user ever has to deal with the nuts-and-bolts of the OS, it's fucked.

This isn't unique to Linux; compare the clusterfuck of Windows printer drives to Apple's AirPrint.

AirPrint: connect to WiFi, print.
Windows: download drivers, install drives, reboot, add printer through USB, configure WiFi connectivity, add printer WiFi port, pray it works.

Now, recently Windows has adopter Bonjour printing services (AirPrint), so this comparison is more apt for a few years ago, but you can see as time goes on, having to deal with drivers, settings, and all that other shit is GOING AWAY.

And it needs to go away in Linux, too.

>>60894600
Some of the people on this board are retards.
That doesn't make us all retards. That doesn't make them "/g/".

>>60894541
>why would you care about some youtuber who influences the opinions of millions of people?

>>60894507
literally true, linux is an OS for hobbyists and NEETs.

>>60894603
I use a fucking ps3 as a PC
Do you really expect me to budge on my opinion?

>>60894507
Link the post, can't find it

>>60894612
>appeal to authority fallacy
yes, you are definitely generation Z

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>>60894507
>Someday Linux's time will come and yet he relies on it every day
>Someday
https://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3516317
https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/operating_system/all
https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-unix/all/all
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/Red-Hat-bolsters-Linux-for-mainframes-tries-to-catch-Novell
https://www.top500.org/statistics/overtime/
http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile+tablet-os-ww-monthly-201611-201611-bar
And just to sum everything up - pic related.

>>60894507
Linux is perfectly fine at maintaining dominance within its specific niches, like servers, HPC, and software development.
I don't see what's so controversial or mind-shattering about the statement that it's not suitable for your average 40-year-old white-collar worker who uses Excel/Word to write reports at work and goes home to browse Facebook. Linus literally isn't saying anything new here.

>>60894632
he did an ama, so it's on r/iama

>>60894642
/thread

>>60894507
so once again, he is making content about shit that everyone already knows about.
sage because this doesn't deserve a thread. You're acting like terry uploaded a new video or something. You need to clam down, its just lineus spamming old news.

>>60894659
Yeah I'm trying to go through the comments but I can't find this specific post

I want to know what he was asked

>>60894642
not defending him - but he is obviously talking about computing for normies

not mainframe computers you goofball

>>60894507
In general, it's depressing that people nowadays are mentally challenged to an extent they can't utilize something which requires more than one click to configure.

>>60894507
>If they are only spending 30-45 minutes on their computer at night
then they can choose between:
- use Windows, spend 20 minutes on installing windows updates and another 15 on AV update and scan
- use Windows, spend all that time to try to figure out how to get rid of wannacrypt
- work overtime to be able to afford a Mac
- use some obscure distro like Arch, spend the night trying to get X running again
- use a sane distro like Debian, spend 2 minutes on updates and the rest on facebook

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>>60894507
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT FUCKING NORMIES USE STOP TRYING TO MAKE GNU/LINUX MAINSTREAM, THE MORE POPULAR IT BECOMES THE WORSE IT GETS, YOU FAGGOTS ARE THE REASON GNOME 3, SYSTEMD AND FUCKING STEAM FOR LINUX EXIST. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>he thinks the opinion of a brainlet box reader mean anything

>>60894562
well, for reddit, it was probably a revelation.

>>60894693
>I really think the average joe knows how to install Debian

ok jonnie

>>60894684
"will you guys make content about linux? like you should try installing it in every laptop you review"

>>60894550
He's Canadian, so he doesn't even really count as white anyways.

>>60894684
I found it if anyone was also wondering
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/6h1rfq/slug/diusrb4

>>60894685
>not defending him - but he is obviously talking about computing for normies
And that's clearly the only place Linux and Unix-based systems haven't dominated on, as my post proves. So, what now?

>>60894637
It is a fallacy but it's actually happening. You can whine about reddit and normies all you want, point remains that millions of people listen to Linus and are influenced by what he says.
If he says Linux is shit they will believe it. They might try Linux once and see that he was right; It is too complicated for them. They won't give it a chance because they already heard it's shit.
Then they will reinstall Windows, develop software for Windows and laugh at people who think they should make software for Linux. And that's why the year of the Linux desktop will never come.

>>60894707
stop linking to crapit. shoo shoo away with you

He's right, Linux is far from being ready for desktop

https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

Isn't Ubuntu or Mint plug and play user friendly tier? I found using them very easy, but I'm not normie brainlet so really can't tell.

>>60894551
You mean the Gnu/Linux OS?

>>60894701
Most distros will install themselves with little input from the user. Only autistic maymay distros like Arch, Void, Gentoo, etc. expect any interaction unless something breaks, and things don't break nearly as much as people say they do.

The greatest block GNU/Linux has for normalfags is in laptops, and specifically laptops with NICs that are supported poorly (Mediakek, Broadcum). I don't expect anyone to waste their time trying to get that shit to work, especially as a beginner, because it's fucking cancer. Not really Linux's fault though.

>>60894725
No!

if he doesn't like linux why did he invent it

>>60894701
he won't know how to install windows either. normies use whatever comes preinstalled.

>>60894728
>not normie brainlet
>is a code monkey

KEK

>>60894733
hand your parents a debian USB-drive and get back to us with the results

>>60894726
Author says w*dowz 10 sucks shit too

>overclockable, water-cooled servers
Also most normies use Linux (Android) for their shit, so the point is moot. Desktops are literally irrelevant outside of workstations (company controlled) and gaming (enthusiast controlled).

>>60894754
the main point is about windows, it's about linux being usable or not.

>>60894726
>>60894711

>>60894507
You have to give the guy credit, hating on your own operating system isn't an easy task, he really does view things from an objective stand point.

Who cares. The less retards, the better. Enterprise is as strong as ever, and the competent userbase also contributes. Linux literally doesn't need the general illiterate populace - let them have their smartphones and keep away. Only corporate entities like Red Hat and Canonical *need* such userbase.

>>60894762
what do you mean? i am not sure to understand you

>>60894752
I have literally done this. Parents asked to tell them how to fix their slow shitty laptop, but I couldn't come to their house to do it. Gave them instructions on how to burn a Stretch liveCD with Rufus, and told them how to boot into it and to just follow the prompts saying yes/ok. They were able to install it without my help.

>>60894773
Linux is kernel, not an operating system.

>>60894780
>>60894642
You could've read my post yourself.

>>60894781
>the world revolves around my anecdotes

ok

>>60894775
because i have normies among my friends, anon. not everyone is a loner like you. i can't even play cs go on esea with my friends because the esea client doesn't support linux (due to that stupid gplv2).

>>60894792
I did post a link listing all the problems for linux on desktop. Is your link a counter argument? If yes, how?

>>60894798
>I point out how most distros aren't complicated to use or install
>"yeah right kid go see if your parents can get Debian installed"
>I provide anecdote because I am asked for one
>"Anecdotes aren't evidence faggot!!!!"
Windows children need to be put in the timeout pen.

>>60894802
Have you ever heard of dual booting and choosing the lesser evil? Dual boot your distro with Windows 7/8.1 as games still work fine on it.

>>60894812
>I did post a link listing all the problems for linux on desktop. Is your link a counter argument? If yes, how?
Are you deliberately being this dense? I acknowledged that and I said that the only market Linux and Unix-based systems haven't dominated yet is desktop.

>>60894814
windows cost money that i don't have. i don't want to waste disk space. i don't want to use windows. using and mastering linux already cost me plenty of time, having to master two os is too much for me.

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>>60894507
>and as Apple has show us, the answer is NOT to educate the user, but rather to simplify the experience

Yes let's have more stupid people, what could possibly go wrong? Just another reason not to take Linus "The Shill" TechTips seriously.

>>60894825
That's even better, but why would you even pay for Windows at this point? Torrenting exists.

>>60894757
>usable
Not for computer illiterates. If you are one why the fuck are you in /g/?

>>60894802
>games
>willingly using proprietary, anti-user, anti-privacy services that bundle mandatory DRM
You're trash, and your opinion in regards to Linux is utterly worthless (and selfish at that, "muh games"). Install Windows right now and begone.

>>60894823
isn't microsoft dominating the web servers market? IIS is know for having the best performances

>>60894839
Why are you doing this, seriously? And it's not even the first time we went over this...
>>60894642

>>60894834
never i would do that, piracy is plague that should be eradicated at any cost. a global automatic analysis of network packets would be a solution to stop illegal torrenting.

>>60894839
>isn't microsoft dominating the web servers market?
Stop deluding yourself.

t. Actual sysadmin

>>60894507

LinusTechTips in a nutshell:

>Fuck Intel's Core i9 bullshit 300 bucks raid card physical DLC
>2 days later: Editing rig updage video sponsored by Intel where they get 1700 bucks CPU for free

hypocrite

>>60894849
>a global automatic analysis of network packets would be a solution to stop illegal torrenting.
As we can all clearly see thanks to Snowden, that has served us very well.

>>60894849
>t. multi-billion-dollar enterprise shill

I deposited some shekels to your e-wallet

>>60894861
the rig update was probably shot at least 2 weeks ago (editing + it's available 1 week before on floatplane club)

>>60894524
>who
Founder of Linux OS

>>60894600
Those are either delusional or trolling.
Linux is great, just not as a Windows replacement for the general populace.

>>60894844
>>60894855
not every server on the web are part of the "market", many of them are hosted by amateurs themselves.

https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2017/02/27/february-2017-web-server-survey.html

see the second graph

>>60894880

see >>60894781

>>60894825
>paying for windows

>>60894735
kys

>>60894896
BUT I JUST SAID THAT I DON'T WANT TO PAY, THIS IS WHY I AM NOT USING WINDOWS (AMONG OTHER REASONS).

Also, what's your problem with paying for windows? It's a product like any other else which is developed by paid workers, not by slaves.

>>60894885
What takes a webserver to be in """the (((market)))"""? Having windows installed?

>>60894507
Nobody needs sudo to check on Facebook. Linus is full of shit.
I get what he's saying, however everything you may want from Windows is there, for free, no BS "editions" for 5x the price. That is important for me. Right now I use Windows Enterprise, think I'll move to Linux soon when there's no more support.

>>60894885
>not every server on the web are part of the "market"
So, how are those included and analysed then?
>>60894926
By having WIndows installed?

>>60894507
Why the fuck should I or anyone else using GNU/Linux care that others find Windows better or easier to use?
I use this OS because of the obvious benefits of free software. I don't expect normies to be this autistic.

But Ubuntu and those fancy hipster GUI distros circumvent all these issues

>>60894941
>I use this OS because of the obvious benefits of free software. I don't expect normies to be this autistic.
When it's become "autistic" to care about privacy and ethics, you know we have a problem.

>>60894926
>>60894938
my english speaking is not good enough to explain that. maybe i should say that it's when the server itself is a product.

>>60894949
What do you think about https://elementary.io/

Here's the deal. Technology should work for us, we shouldn't have to work for it. In that sense, linux is a complete failure. The ultimate goal for tech is to not notice it.

>>60894507
Linux already has it's time running on the vast majority of user friendly currently computing devices thanks to Android, it might end in a few years of Google actually does something with Fuschia
GNU's time never came though

>>60894981
>I echo back cliche phrases I've heard big brands tell me

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>>60894507
>Spend 45mins on computer per day
Of fucking course you shouldn't use linux then.
Despite that, ubuntu is good enough if you just browse or use Skype, watch movies.
Yeah, you have to install codecs, but it's pretty much automated.

>>60894996
Fuschia seems to be more experimental that anything else. It will vanish like plan9 did.

>eceleb thread staying alive
>for such a stupid topic

Something tells me /v/'s responsible for this. You faggots always show up in hoards during E3 asking "can you build me gaming PC? cheaper and stronger than console?"

>>60894507
yeah I agree with him on nearly everything.


Mean look at it this way, how many people buy a honda civic vs an wrx.

How many people buy their make up from ultra or the make up aisle from the drug store vs the mac counter?

People who need to use better shit will naturally gravitate towards that stuff.

>>60894507
I think it's a stupid idea to think that Linux will ever be mainstream. I doubt that's what Linux is trying to be.

Some people just have a car to drive from point A to point B, and that's fine. Those are your Windows/MacOS guys. Other people enjoy getting a powerful car, fine-tuning it, worrying about performance and fuel consumption and god know what else. Those are your Linux people. Other people just take the bus, these are your android faggots lel

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>>60894981
>linux is a complete failure.

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>>60895005
you're right. We should have to put in more effort to get stuff out of things, that sounds like moving forward to me

>>60895020
>I think it's a stupid idea to think that Linux will ever be mainstream. I doubt that's what Linux is trying to be.

you are thinking wrong. who, 15 years ago, would have said that linux will completely eradicate java phones and BlackBerry phones? no one.

>>60894963
The point is that "normies" don't care. We keep educating them, but they still keep posting everything on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat and YouTube
They don't use encryption, proxies, privacy browser addons, or any other security tool.
They simply don't give a shit. They use computers just to talk to their friends and watch homo youtubers. And there's nothing we can do about it.

>>60894979
>.io
hipster trash

>>60894968
Either way, just for good measure:
>Apache HTTP Server, colloquially called Apache, is free and open-source cross-platform web server software, released under the terms of Apache License 2.0. Apache is developed and maintained by an open community of developers under the auspices of the Apache Software Foundation.
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/
https://www.apache.org/licenses/

>>60894981
How many times?
>>60894642

>>60895058
I would really like you to explain why .io does mean hipster trash.

>>60894981
> Technology should work for us, we shouldn't have to work for it.
You don't have to know how this site works to shitpost on it.
> Barrow should roll by itself, I don't have to carry it. In that sense, wheel is a complete failure

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>>60894874

then he should've not released it, but no, he has to upload 1 video per day no matter what quality the content is.

Remember that "heat your pizza with computer components exhaust air" fiasco? Or how about the very recent 2000 Intel core i5 computer build that was released literally 2 months after Ryzen 5 was available. And the excuse they gave in the following WAN show was that they already had written the fucking manuscript for the build guide LOL. They know that video was fucking atrocious but they're lazy and puts quantity over quality

pic unrelated: brandon's girlfriend that shows up in every video now

>>60895105

i wouldn't of nutted inside that whore's ass even if i was paid to (puke)

>>60895122

Why would you get paid to have sexual intercourse with someone who gets paid to have sex?

>>60895105
it's not brandon's gf, it's just a friend and she's the new shooter and hand model for LTT
and also a top tier asian qt

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>>60894507
>dat illiterate local computer store guy with no education that made some videos and generation z thinks he's some tech god

>>60894832
Do you realize that by your logic, you are stupid if you
>drive a car but don't know how everything in the car works
>take a shit but don't know how the plumbing system works
>eat food but don't know how your body breaks it into usable stuff and converts it to energy
>brush your teeth but don't know how the toothpaste is made
etc

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>>60894721
Whatever, those people who are easily swayed by a "tech-nerd's" opinion shouldn't be allowed near an Internet connection to begin with. Besides, he posted a comment on reddit, not make a video about why Linux isn't hot shit, so most of his audience won't notice it, and does who do follow him to that extent will benefit the Linux community by their absence on the long run.

>>60894789
okay guys, who invited the nerd?

>>60895074
general rule of thumb. 90% of content on .io domains is.
but i'll give it the favor of doubt, so let's have a look:
- initial pageview looks like an apple ad
- scroll down, past bullshit "pree quotes" self-ads
- scrolling takes forever because of hipster "mobile first" bullshit layout
- gray on gray fonts
- gray gradients everywhere
- we're so much like a mac, yet totally indie
- fucking shadows behind screenshots, wasting even more space
- terminal color sheme is default dark theme minus contrast
- text editor color sheme is default light theme minus contrast
- all they're showing is basically a GNOME3 skin
hipster trash, as expected.

>>60895261
>pree quotes
*press quotes

>>60895181
>what is pornography

>>60894981
interesting argument.

>>60894909
rma yourself

>>60894507
Well he is right, there are different programs for different use cases. If we want normies to use GNU plus Linux we have to write programs that can be used by them easily without having to figure out anything.
I don't give a shit about what normies do though *opens 60 terminal emulators and goes on an autism rampage*

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>>60894507
>the creator of the kernal doesnt even use it
>/g/ will defend this
will they ever learn

His comment seems to imply that, in Linux, you need to use CLI to get to Facebook, which hasn't been the case since... well... ever. Why would I listen to the opinion of someone who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about? Add that to the fact that Luke, who is actually competent, is making the switch to Linux.
I like Linus, as in, his project videos are entertaining but he desperately needs some of his educated employees to tell him to shut up from time to time.

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I hate some parts of linux community, the fanatics... the muh gnu faggots, muh propietary is evilest thing ever retards..

But WTF is linus talking about?
The argument he is parroting maybe applied some pre-2010 years or something.

How is Ubuntu requiring some difficult sudo commands from regular users?
>they open browser, they have browser
>they browse photos, they see their photos
>they watch video they got it
>play music, they play music

we have user friendly distros for ages

>>60895010
It's been shaping up pretty solidly, I could legitimately see it becoming Android. They're building a full Android compatibility layer.

>>60894657
My aunt and uncle (total tech illiterates) have been running Linux for 5 years without a problem. The reason Linux isn't more mainstream in the desktop market is because no-ones selling Linux boxes in Best Buy or Wal-Mart or Target. When (if) that happens, expect Linux market share to rise.

>>60895617
anything that destroy gnu is good to me.

>>60895632
That's exactly what happend back in '07 when netbooks became the big thing. You know what happened? Microsoft got their boots on and started knocking on the OEM's doors with a gat and a gimped copy of XP in hand.

What do you expect from a retard who's "talent" is to slice some ad reels and an intro on a video he hired some minimum wage cuck to film, why would he ever need to be productive?

>>60895561
>want to change a config or do a backup of some settings
>you do not have permission
>sudo dolphin
>error: dolphin may not run in root mode
>o-okay
>google how to access and copy/edit files through the command line

>>60894545

Mate his sandal and sock game makes your sneakers normie as fuck in comparison

>>60895732
>want to change a config
go in to preferences of the program

>do a backup of some settings
plug in external storage, drags and drops files there

>>60894585

What are you on about

>>60895732
Heh I remember doing stuff like that when I was first learning Linux. Nautilus ran in sudo mode though, but with a big warning at the top and no theming.

>>60894507
That might be true, Linus, but you're still a Peter Puffer.

>>60895766
insult like that makes you look gayer than your target pajeet

>>60894507
Well that man didn't set his server, he paid another company to do that for him so, i wouldn't expect him do know shit about pc's

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>>60895642
>anything that destroy gnu is good to me.
Yeah, an OS by an ad company is so much better than a decentralized and an operating system without an owner. Great logic. And a reminder - pic related.

My 65 year old mother ran Linux for years just fine. Is this tech tips guy less technical than my mother?

Why should I care what /r/pcmasterrace's mascot has to say about anything?

>>60895561
Underrated post.

>>60895732
The user shouldn't be touching the system files or running entire graphical programs as root, this is why polkit exists, but if you must just install krusader, it has the option to run as root integrated and is good for advanced tasks.

Also this argument doesn't deny what the other anon said, distros like ubuntu are easy as fuck to use. Every OS has quirks, the difference is that you may be very well accustomed to the quirks of your OS and that's why you feel it's easier.

>>60894507
gnome3 is already retard-proof

>>60894524
fpbp

>>60894507
> /g/ BTFO by Linus from LT
This place is a fucking windows fanboy circlejerk already, i don't see how that guy thrash-talking linux BTFO /g/

That guy is full of shit BTW and that's proved by his exaggerations, the guy is just parroting what he hears.

>>60894637
>fallacy
Jesus christ are you one of your high school's debate team retards?

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>>60894507
Someone should tell to linus about appimage, the savior of linux for desktop.

http://appimage.org/

Appimage changed my life.

>>60895972
>Jesus christ are you one of your high school's debate team retards?
Oh, big words I can't understand. Long gone are the good old days when I can call everyone an autist or a cuck and have a false sense of winning. And it's not like logical fallacies are there just to spite you. Philosphy exists since ~500 BC. Not even him by the way.

>>60894802
>normie friends
>play video games
>instead going to club bar and fuck stacy

you are just shit faggot who spend your time in imaginary shit stuff

>>60896033
i met stacy while playing minecraft with my sister friends. video gaming is mainstream now.

>>60895973
>what is a package manager
are you retarded? I saw the desperate dev of this shit trying to push it on mpv devs and they didn't take bait

>>60894507
Anyone got that pic with Linus with his woman in the hospital and it has that pic with him and his wife speaking on Twitter?

>>60895023
>Android is desktop linux
>Android does the exact thing the person you replied to wants them to do, and is gaining market share because of it
>Mobile OS are the same as desktop OS
Sounds like you are missing the point on every level, friendo

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>>60894507
Again he demonstrates that he's an idiot

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>>60894524
The man himself

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>>60894507
He's right 100%

Linux is garbage

>>60894562
This

>>60896902
That

>>60896655
It literally explains in big text right on the front page how it's different from normal package management though

But it's still basically just statically linked binaries or the equivalent of it.

>>60894507
GNU/linux isn't about ease of use its about freedom if they want to be microslaves then they can but I'll keep my freedom and GNU/linux.

roasted

>>60894642
>linux
>android

>>60894507
>install some basic distro like Ubuntu
>never worry about it
It works for my tech illiterate mom, should work for anyone.

>>60897731
Exactly?
https://source.android.com/source/downloading
https://source.android.com/source/building-kernels

>>60897670
Freedom to waste your time?

>>60897896
>>60894963

Well the normies he speaks of, are better suited for an iOS or an android device then, because they are downright retarded to use. Normies won't have to think for a second while using them. Windows is still just as shitty as it earlier was, except for gaymen and 1-2 other important programs

He's right though. I use Linux every day both for work and just as my main OS. It so happens that the same knowledge lets me do all those autistic Linux things like having my window manager just the way I want it. I only ever got into Linux because I'm into computers, if I were a normie I'd never have the time to make it work the way I want.

Oh my - LINUX IS NOT FUCKING HARD, you click next a couple times to install anything but Arch & Gentoo, to download things you do "sudo -i && apt update && apt-get install (Whatever you want)" How fucking stupid do you have to be to not be able to learn Linux.

>sudo commands
>sudo is just one command

What did he mean by this.

>>60894600
This isn't redditland. Here we actually enjoy the fact that our superior OS is a sekrit club

>>60894524
>literally who
>implies he doesnt know who he is
>implies its a good thing to not know someone whose OS runs the planet
Being this retarded, you shoild be the one on lebbit not OP

>>60894524
he created linux dude

>>60894802
>a gaming client doesn't support a kernel due to a license
You sure seem like you know what you're talking about.

>>60894685
>android
>computing for normies
pick 2

servers ---> linux
desktop ---> windows 10 + bash

>>60898793
You can use the GUI to install stuff. I know Fedora (and by extension CentOS) has one, Ubuntu has one, basically anything with KDE or Gnome has one. These "you have to use the terminal" posts are made by people who have either never used Linux or ran into some obscure issue.

>>60899195
>desktop ---> windows 10
Why not Windows 7/8.1?

He sounds like a faggot that hasnt used desktop linux in years.

Modern distros are as user friendly as windows.
GUI for everything, dumbed down options, etc.

>>60894507
>>60894537
>>60894551
Did this game became famous because he shares the same first name as Linus Torvalds and people were to dumb to tell the difference?
Are there really thinking this guy created Linux?

>>60899261
7 is outdated
8(.1) is objectively trash

10 is comfy af, just install
https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying
if you're worried about spyware

>>60899896
Your name says "Anonymous", are you a hacker??? :O

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>>60899919
Oh, really? Just install one tool to defeat Microsoft and the NSA? I'm sure that's how it works. How gullible are you?
https://archive.is/QFL8e
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/#6cbbe3bc3a23
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2926215/microsoft-subnet/richard-stallman-windows-os-is-malware.html
https://www.fsf.org/news/the-fsfs-statement-on-windows-10

>>60894507
Ok, /pol/dditor. We don't care about normal people. We just care about innocents computers with non-free software.

>listening to some youtube '''techie''' who failed college and can't program

>>60894507
I agree with this no good human being, just the fact that you can't have convenience of .exe format on all linux distros, shows that Linux is as good as dying at this point in the eyes of the public.

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>>60900065
but that "one tool" is written by the russians :^)
nah but really, you need to draw a line somewhere. I support EFF and FSF's work and whatnot but you can't be browsing in tor all the time or avoid using computers intel CPUs. pic related.

>>60900177
>but that "one tool" is written by the russians :^)
Let's not derail this thread now.
I understand that doing your computing the way Richard Stallman does isn't practicable for most people and that doesn't mean every attempt to minimize data mining is useless, as that would be an appeal to futility. Either way, you have to respect a rare trait he has, which is standing behind his words.

>>60894637
Generation Z > Millennial Cuckolds

>>60894507
I mean lets get real for a moment. You install windows 10 in about 45 minutes and for most linuxes its about the same but remember. Biggest base linuxes are about 1 gigabytes or 2 while windows 10 can be more than 5 gigabytes of data. And what happens when you open them. On the linux there are about 2 functional buttons, 3 are nonfunctional and in those two buttons there are some pictures to play with. Maybe slide down or up. On windows though, you feel like a god. Its professional its fast, its all functional. You have a godlike user interface. The thing that the linux does not have. You have those two buttons in the linux, but you still search google for codes to write in terminal. Linux is free because its not worth a penny. Nobody would sell a paper without taking the money. Just not sure why people still buy android while windows phone does 10 times more. Trust me. When you work with windows you know some genius ground breaker dedicated himself to give you an operational os

>>60894507
I'm fairly sure that anyone that has used Linux for a decent amount of time does not actually have any delusions about why it's not popular, despite their (my) shitposting on /g/

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>>60900225
>Linux is free because its not worth a penny
What is Red Hat and what are morals and decentralized computing?
http://www.zdnet.com/article/red-hat-becomes-first-2b-open-source-company/
https://investors.redhat.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2016/03-22-2016-201734069
>When you work with windows you know some genius ground breaker dedicated himself to give you an operational os
Yeah, a genius groundbreaker who also decided to participate in NSA's PRISM project. What does that say about him?
>>60900065
And about Linux DE's not being modern - pic related (not mine though).

>>60894550
>tech nigger's opinion more than this whitey
you know that tech nigger is pretty tech illiterate, right? the extent of his ability is shooting and editing videos. he knows nothing about tech itself

>>60894551
ever since I posted something along the lines of "he has created linux, what have you done, OP?" several months ago in some linustechtips hate thread here on /g/, I've been seeing people ironically reply with "linustechtips is creator of linux" more and more

it would be funny if I accidentally started a meme on /g/, though I think this is a thing that has been running here for years

>>60900300
Does he ziptie a cpu cooler to a server mobo, break it, then wonder why sli won't work on a workstation board? No?

>>60900318
Can I get your autograph?

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My mom uses Fedora on her laptop, are you telling me that she's not a normie? GNU/Linux is perfect for facebook machines. But I bet this guy only tried slackware 10 years ago and thinks nothing has changed ever since.

>>60900341
>Does he ziptie a cpu cooler to a server mobo, break it, then wonder why sli won't work on a workstation board? No?
does your grandma? so you're telling me you'd rather have your grandma do your IT than Linus?

Marques doesn't do that stuff because he has no idea what he's doing. Linus does it because he can afford to make the mistakes, and can either fix it or replace it. he's playing with company money

>>60900383
I've never watched the nigger, honestly. Something about a British accent on a colored person creeps me out. Can't be worse technically than LTT, desu, they both seem like box readers.

>linux isn't user friendly
>normies will never use it, even the ones that heard about it
>customizability is through the roof, for the literate that is
>isn't exactly airtight, but the most secure OS out there, targeted by the least amount of malware
>isn't the industry standard
>can be run on literally anything
sounds like a dream come true desu
fuck the mainstream

>>60900446
>but the most secure OS out there
laughing_*BSD_users.gif.exe

>>60900446
this isn't the first time I typed t b h, and once posted it turned into desu
should I consult /x/ about this?

>>60900411
he's not british, he's american

and Marques just uploaded a video where he said that he "deletes all of the raw footage after [he] uploads a video, since [he] doesn't have room to store it"

he can't even set up his own NAS

>>60900472
ok I agree, jails is nothing short of witchcraft

>>60900478
it's a filter implemented around the time moot retired
>inb4 what is moot

>>60900478
First day?

>>60900358

hahahaha, your passive aggression is pathetic, no wonder you use linux

>>60894696
The frog is right. 4chan made it easier for phone posters and look what happened.

>>60900517
>mook
figures

>>60900524
fucks it matter? none of the shit I do will help you get laid

>>60894603
>bonjour
Jesus christ, I had never seen much bigger trash than that. After trying it i'd rather go back to installing drivers and praying it works.

>>60900567
what's with the phoneposters = shitposters meme? you guys don't own a cellphone?

>>60896866
Why do you guys keep posting this image if it BTFO yourselves?

>>60894687
People have to do other things and don't have time to figure out how does an OS works. You like computers and your interested in that shit, me too but not everyone, they don't care about them, they want things to "just werk"

>>60894507
I hate summer
I also don't give a shit whether Linux is user friendly or not
I have windows drive when I need to do stuff and I have a Linux drive whenever I want to mess around with shit.
Please go back to facebook you shit tier troll

>>60894537
>>60894532
>he thinks we care
Lemme tell you a little secret
I care as much about Linus as much as he cares about me
I don't.

>>60899065
yes, i know. the esea client uses a kernel driver for his anti cheat system. linux forcing everything in the kernel to be open source, esea doesn't want to implement the AC driver for linux.

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>>60901419
Show me those filters

>>60894721
He actual reason why is because desktops are dying. More and more people are getting by on just mobile devices these days. Linux has dominated the mobile market, so it doesn't matter anymore if it gets more traction in the desktop/laptop markets.

>>60900478
desu senpai

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>>60901481
RYZEN WAS A MISTAKE

>>60897872
>linux
>android

>>60901442
*

>>60901573
Just sage next time, will you?

>>60901610
>linux
>android

>>60894524
Linus MADE Linux you fucking dolt.

linus tech tips is my favourite kernel developer

>>60902016
You have nothing better to do?

>>60895503
uninstall yourself

>>60900637
No I don't.

Smartphone = tracking device

What is there even to argue about? Linux is around and exists and is used and has been adapted to many different things. Its done its function. There's nothing else to talk about. It will continue to be around and maybe be used by more things.

I don't like his videos and I can't stand his voice, but he does have a point. /g/ should just get over the fact that some people just don't have time for this shit.

>>60894687
Why should I have to understand how to fix my car to get from A to B? It definitely helps but if I can allocate my time to more important stuff, then I will

>>60902314
>>60894642
The majority apparently do.

>>60900318
sorry kid but you're not the origin of it, don't get your hopes up. people have been saying it since his first video on ncix tech tips.

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>"Normies" have crap to do like go to work
And a "lot of work" also involves computers with Linux, which are already set up great when they are set up by a company computer expert,
which is something Linus would know if he ever did actual normie work that doesn't involve lying to children on the Internet about sponsored computer hardware and taking advantage of less educated people for money on the Internet.

>>60895216
how do people not know this? most of that is basic knowledge from school. Do people not like learning?

>>60902181

This.

>>60902115
are you implying that fighting with alternative facts is not important?

>>60902466
>are you implying that fighting with alternative facts is not important?
What alternative facts? All you've been doing is:
>linux
>android
Are you not aware of the fact that Android incorporates Linux kernel? Where are you even going with this?

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A Uni colleague of mine works in TV licensing.
Half of the people there have Ubuntu and others are mixed between Windows 10 and MacOS.
He says that people have more praise for Ubuntu and MacOS than Win10, and Win10 got shat on for all the disruptive shit it did including blue screens.
Turns out Ubuntu is as stable and easy to use as MacOS there.

Now, i know my friend as a trustworthy guy, while Linus is a dumb shill who doesn't even know how to use Linux, so i know who to trust in this discussion.

>>60894507
And that's totally fine. Linux doesn't need to be super popular, just popular enough to get some support.

>>60902510
>Are you not aware of the fact that Android incorporates Linux kernel?
Please find the nearest tree and hang yourself.

>>60902634
Thanks for confirming you're on a shitposting rampage.

>>60894696
>>60901419
stupid frogposters

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I was just thinking about this and the truth is, Linux as it is right now, is simply not viable. Things that are preventing it from being widely adopted in home use are:

>GPL

While this itself is a great thing and should be more widely used, the problem is that it isn't and the jews run big corporations like Adobe will never adopt to a free license unless something much better comes along and really kills Photoshop. How likely do you think this will be? The fact is that what normies want is the most simplified and effective applications and those unfortunately are as proprietary as they get.

>POSIX and Unix-likeness

Great things for servers, but a home user will not want any of this shit. The further Linux goes from Unix the more user friendly it gets. Systemd, while usually dislike among /g/'s most battle hardened gentoo memesters, is a good step forward. People have gold plated memories of init files, it was a real mess back then.

>Non shit DE

Biggest problem with Linux in my mind right now is the poor state of desktop environments. They are non-consistent (GTK vs Qt) and need more uniformity. Gnome is a joke, KDE is bad because Qt, Unity looks like it's 10 years old unless you install a custom theme (it needs to look good out of the box) and that side bar is STUPID. XFCE is good but buggy as shit and it's been like that since it was conceived. Everything else looks so dated they are simply not viable.

>Overly complex

What OS X did right was simplification. It's BSD-like, so you still have the console for advanced users, it permits more modification than windows and you can natively run many Unix-applications like ssh but for those who don't understand what ssh (or so) is, there's that polished uniformal interface with great integration and external hardware support.

In my mind all Linux needs to do is copy all the OS X stuff and release it under some distro that has repos as large as Ubuntu.

>>60902643
At least I don't claim that linux is the same as android

>>60902697
Why would you carry an imac around like that?

>>60902701
>At least I don't claim that linux is the same as android
I said that it incorporates Linux kernel. You're just playing word games to further your shitposting rampage I guess.

>>60902697
>KDE is bad because Qt
It's not 2014. anymore. KDE has gotten a lot better.
https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.10.1.php
>>60900277

>>60896013
philosophy is
but science is like 300yo only

Funny, because I have installed Ubuntu on two of my dad's laptops and he can use it just fine. He's 66.

>>60902782
My grandma uses trisquel GNU+linux on a libreboot thinkpad x200 just fine as well. This is what happens when you let me buy and set up your computer.

>>60894550
tech nigger literally just recites marketing slides for new products and their 'features'

>>60902759
why so passive aggresive?

>>60903110
Because of the unnecessary replies cluttering the thread.

>>60902697
>KDE is bad because Qt
There are a lot of reasons that KDE is bad, but Qt is not one of them. Qt is pretty good and it's only bloated compared to other Linux DEs. Compared to the Windows desktop, it's tiny and its resource usage is not huge.

>>60903136
At least KDE has a proper file picker and no screen tearing out of the box.

>>60903118
ok

Normies don't play video gaymes to care about gaymer hardware not having good support on Linux Linus, which is why your whole paragraph about normies is as worthwhile as the bottom of a toilet.

>>60894507
Would you even want to keep using Linux if it became bloat baby easy mode like MacOS? I'd just move to BSD.

>>60903179
I wasn't implying that anything was better than KDE, but KDE has a lot of things that I really with they would fix.

>>60894507
He's 100% correct

And I keep telling linux evangelists that these problems persist in linux, and they keep burying their heads in the dirt going "NO YOU JUST HAVE TO LEARN ITS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLICATED"

Any linux user or developer who isn't agreeing with linus here is straight up a fucking moron.

>windoze just werks XDD
>except when it doesn't XDd

>>60903260
What exactly? Maybe we could submit suggestions to the developers.

>>60894562
Everyone but lincucks know

Lincucks are 100% blind to the faults of their operating system and absolutely REFUSE to fix anything.

So we have a situation where the people knowledgeable enough to make changes to linux, are the kinds of people who lack an understanding of UI and intuitive interface and think everyone else is wrong. While those who know what they'd like to do to improve linux, lack the experience and skills to actually do it.

The only thing holding linux back are the linux users and maintainers themselves.

>>60902697
>all these completely fucking clueless opinions
woah, the /v/eddit spillover is real

>>60894507

So some faggy nerd with a bad haircut and attitude give his oh so original opinion about Linux not targeting "soccer mums" as their audience.

Therefore Linux is bad.

Therefore he has "basically ended" this board.


Uhm.. OK.
I forgot we are on a blue board.
Keep on posting your hot opinions, friendo.

>>60895023
This is how delusional and fucking retarded lincucks actually are.

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>WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEE JUST GIVE ME MICROSOFT WINDOWS BUT FREE WHEEEE OINK OINK

>>60895053
The problem is that you shouldn't be "educating" them, you should be making the system robust and foolproof so they can't fuck it up.

You are expecting retards to figure out the intricacies of an operating system in order to use it. You, and people like you, are genuine idiots, just as ignorant as the normie retards you despise.

>>60903306
We don't live in the 80's anymore. GUIs exist and you don't need to know a programing language to do your computing.
https://youtu.be/rQA29l0xXl4
https://youtu.be/k93ymVT1ktk

>>60903324
u mad

>>60903334
keep using windows buddy

>>60903352
>>60903334
Great non argument. Just claiming someone is delusional without offering any reason behind it doesn't prove your point.
>>60894642
An OS dominating every possible market except desktop is hardly held back. There are of course a lot of improvements to be made.

post the pictures from the man's fan meetup. Or rather the kindergarten that followed lol.

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>>60903405

>>60903326
>text rendering fails randomly on Nvidia drivers, requiring the component to be restarted
>some window elements are corrupted on resuming from hibernate on Nvidia drivers
>font size is much smaller than the default font in settings sometimes
>plasmashell and krunner just crash randomly
>KNotify is really annoying, but if I disable it I can't see file copy progress in dolphin
>KDialog only shows one thumbnail at once and also does not automatically bookmark mounted hard drives (the file picker for chromium is better)
>Dolphin freezes when I'm heavily reading or writing to the disk it's trying to access. I understand that it would take a long time to load the files, but the GUI should not freeze.
>plasmashell sometimes freezes when doing extended writes to a usb drive
>performance is noticably worse than xfce on a mechanical hard drive
>loading into the DE takes much longer than xfce
>when I set refresh rate in the display menu, it always goes back to auto the next time I open it
>sometimes KNotify tells me that the compositor had to be restarted
>no mouse sensitivity option, only acceleration

luckily when things crash, they usually restart in a few seconds, but it's still pretty annoying to just find that krunner just died randomly.

>>60894507
proper idiot proof distro when?

>>60895561
Day in the life of a normie trying linux:
>want to use program, no idea that an app manager even exists
>google "install x in linux", find webpage
>Download .tar, The fuck is .tar? Oh it's like an archive...?
>What the fuck are all these files? Where's the .exe, how do I run this? How do I install it?
>Don't even know wtf to type in google, maybe after 30 minutes of research realize you have to compile it
>Google how to compile, fuck it up because you have no fucking clue what you're doing or how to do it or if anything you're doing is wrong
>If you're LUCKY, 1% of the people who started trying to install have gotten this far. At this point 99% of the remaining 1% give up in frustration and reinstall windows

Linux retards think this state of affairs is okay.

It is not easy to install on linux because linux does not make it clear to a user HOW to install.
Linux does not give a user a decent alternative installation method
If you try to install anything manually you can completely fuck up your system, especially relevant for retards copy pasting and editing CLI commands not know what any of it means

If your OS REQUIRES the user to type something into the command line, EVER, your OS is GARBAGE and normies will NEVER use it.

Lincucks are too fucking stupid to figure these things out. Maybe in another two decades we can have another thread like this where everyone points out the blatantly fucking obvious to idiot lincucks and they continue going "No it's not us that are the problem!!!1!!" while marketshare continues to stagnate at 0.1%

I cannot understate how fucking stupid linux users are.

>>60903376
>antergos
Manjaro is what people who are terrified of the command line should be using

>>60903456
calm down woah

>>60903456
>>60903376

>>60903452

any time you get around to setting one up

>>60895923
>People pointing out legitimate flaws in linux that NEED to be fixed are just "windows circlejerk fanboys"

WAKE UP LINKEKS
THE PROBLEM IS YOU

YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN TO REASONABLE PEOPLE POINTING OUT UNREASONABLE PROBLEMS IN YOUR PRECIOUS OPERATING SYSTEM

THE REAL CIRCLEJERK FANBOY HERE IS YOU. EVERY ONE OF YOU LINUXFAGS DEFENDING THIS BULLSHIT

I fucking love the idea of Linux. I WANT to use linux instead of Windows. But you morons are too stupid to see that your bullshit requires way too many hoops for the average person to jump through

When the fuck are you going to wake up to the problems with your fucking operating system instead of acting like they don't exist while literally everyone else in the fucking world keeps pointing it out to you.

>>60903456

complete and utter fud

>>60894507
>leaf makes a living opening up boxes and reading spec sheets

Its like taking advice from a Car Salesman at a dealership how to work on and fix your own vehicles.

>>60903456
>If your OS REQUIRES the user to type something into the command line
Download a distro that doesn't, like Manjaro.

>>60894507
What was he trying to say about Apple? I thought MacOS and iOS was literally the easiest most watered down OS you could get.

>>60903443
As far as crashes go, I'd suggest turning off experimental options under compositor settings if those are enabled by default on your distro. After I did that, I haven't had a single crash. And it's not enabled by default anymore, at least not on Antergos and Arch I guess. Try that. Other fixes are most likely out of our reach.

>>60903483
calm down lol, you're getting seriously mad.

The real idiot is unfortunately you.
Only a fool insist that his way of doing X is the superior way when he knows no alternative.
It's clear as day that using a keyboard is faster and more efficient than a mouse.

>>60903483
>>60903402

>click on the thread expecting freetards triggering
>it's actually /v/edditor manchildren getting triggered into the low orbit
massive fucking kek

>>60903474
yeah, right. i'll make it payware and make mad dosh like apple

>>60894541
what the is generation z

>>60894567
>Good point
>>60894642

>>60903456
>EVER, your OS is GARBAGE and normies will NEVER use it.
Things become garbage when normies catch up with it, not the other way around firne.d
Everything a normie touches turns to shit.

Remember old Windows? Windows 2000 was the last version of Windows made with professionals in mind. It looked great, it was spartan, robust, efficient.
Remember what happened when Microsoft realized that soccer moms are a great source of money? Windows XP with it's fischer price UI.

Don't pretend it's otherwise.
As soon as something becomes popular among the drooling normalfags you can abandon the idea, because the next iteration will be catered to them, not you.

ITT: Spillover from /v/ blaming their ineptitude with anything other than Windows on the OS.

It's kind of funny seeing so many of these supposedly really "technically adept" types go all apeshit over people using Linux or OSX. My experience is that it's usually just their ego telling them that "No, you can't be bad at something relating to computers, so it has to be something other than you" to avoid having to admit that they only know how to use Windows.

Personally I dumped Windows for OSX around 2007 and after a lot of tinkering with UNIX stuff in OSX all my desktops have since then run Linux (while my laptops run OSX). At this point Windows has to me become "That OS the clueless, kids who want to play games and those who have to use some really obscure tools only available on Windows". Pretty much all the software I run into, even the obscure stuff like AVR Studio, Matlab, Quartus II, etc., run on ether Linux or OSX.

>>60903575
>It's not that we don't listen, it's just that we don't WANT linux to be popular

wow, you people are just straight up delusional
this is like talking to mactoddler cultists

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>>60895809
trump voters have nothing to hide and nothing to fear.

>>60903601
>wow, you people are just straight up delusional
>>60903402

>>60903516
You mean change the rendering backend from OpenGL3.1 to XRender? I can't find a setting labeled experimental anymore; I vaguely recall seeing one before.

>>60903625
I'm not on my PC right now, but I'm sure you'll find it under compositor settings. Perhaps there's been a name change and those options are labeled experimental.

>>60903601
whatever lets you sleep at night friend.
I'm absolutely fine with normies swarming to Linux.
I'm not fine with Linux being dumbed down to the level of Windows to cater to them.

I'm a technology enthusiast, not a drooling worm that goes back home from work only to spend time typing in ms office.

>>60903650
Aren't labeled*

>>60903601
>The entirety of /g/ is one person
>Everyone unanimously agrees with your proposition

>>60903456
>>want to use program, no idea that an app manager even exists
>>google "install x in linux", find webpage
And the first thing you will see are guides that show the app manager
There are a fuckton of resources telling you how to install apps in Linux. Even the installation GUI tells you that as it installs. There's no way that a normalfag wouldn't know how to install the most basic applications in Linux.

>>60894507
>I've never had a Windows system go 200+ days without a reboot
Retard detected. Mine had 1.5 years before the power supply died.

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>>60903687
I guess it must no longer be labeled experimental

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>mfw Linus cuck shits mentions poweruser needs
>powerusers
>on windows

>>60894507
Using Ubuntu and most other linux distros is no more difficult than using windows. Using commands isn't needed for normalfag shit and normalfags don't even use desktop computers anymore in the first place. Linus is an idiot.

>>60894507
>most people complaining are probably gamer faggots that complain about games being dumbed down to cater to retards
>somehow it's okay for linux to do the same

>>60903731
great analogy there. something that might actually strike through thick /v/edditor manchildren's skulls

>>60903719
I think you replied to the wrong post of mine though. Tearing prevention ("vsync") might be what I was talking about. Try different settings in that menu and avoid using proprietary GPU drivers if you can. That caused crashing too, though I'm not sure if it's fixed by now.

>>60894507
Who is this cuck and why should I care about his opinion?

Is the thread over now? Reply limit?

>>60903731
The difference with Linux is that it can simultaneously cater to retards and power users. With Linux, it's the power users that actually manage the distros so almost none of them cater to retards, while video games are managed by executives who listen to focus groups.

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>>60903795
It's not over til it falls off the board, baby

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>>60895216
Knowing how to use an operating system doesn't require you to know assembly or how instructions are executed on a CPU.
Expecting a computer (one of the most complex machines ever created) to be "user-friendly" and usable without any knowledge or training is retarded.
Cars aren't designed so that someone who has never been taught to drive one or has not practiced using one can intuitively learn how to.

>>60894541
I'm generation Z and I literally don't care. I think you're thinking of millennials/Y

apple again is the smart one here. if you work at their call center for a week you will know what he means by making it easier to use for the public because you really want to hang up on some people that are really stupid when it comes to technology

the return policy shit that runs in the US / west is also very retarded, the number of people calling in to get free shit with stupid ass excuse is higher than mount rushmore. the refund request calls are higher.

people should be held accountable for their stupidity especially when it comes to purchases, too many people purchase some shit and regrets it then ask for a refund. no wonder apple doesnt service your shit or replace your devices with new parts but rather used parts.

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>>60903456
You're making assumptions because everyone has to learn the retarded way that windows choses to do things.
If everyone used linux then normies trying to use windows to install would be even more confusing for them.

>I typed "apt install firefox" in the command prompt but it says apt is not recognised?
>How am I supposed to install software?
>Why should I go to the website? I want to install the program, not learn about it.
>There's loads of different versions here, which one do I download?
>An exe file, what's this?
>I downloaded it but my program isn't in the start menu?
>I have to run the exe?
>What's all these options?
>What do I set as the install location?
>Should I select custom or express?
>Do I want this toolbar?
>Why do I need to restart to finish the installation? I have a load of work open!

>>60894507
For a second I thought you meant Torvalds. When I saw him use the term "normies", I got really excited for a second..

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>>60894507
>figure out sudo to open a website
What did xe mean by this?

>linux elitist friend recommend using linux
>use linux
>get laugh at because i use GUI
one of the reason why i hate linux, i mean it seriously.

>>60905084
Learn to read you dumb fucking weeb.

>>60894550
>And I'm white.
You mean (((white))) :^)