/tpg/ - ThinkPad General thread

>>60887612
Is the w530 a good choice?

Is there a way to get a better color calibration at t420 screen? I just put it side-by-side with a lower 1360x768 screen (The t420 got a 1600x900 one) both running the full hd video of the new spider-man game.

Even with a better resolution, the t420 is just destroyed. The vibrant colors in this acer notebook allow me to see much more detail, even in a lower res.

Is there anything to make this better? Right now it's kinda obnoxious.

>>60887630
yes, if you can live with such gigantic screen and it's weight
>>60887643
AFAIK no. You can disable PWM to make it a little better, but it has nothing to do with colors.

seller says they don't do returns and may replace accessories at will when shipping.
will ebay basically take the financial hit if they send me a laptop that:
isn't exactly as in the pic(has damage that wasn't shown in the photos or mentioned)
has a strange noise or some other but works

What is up with think fans?

>Turn on thinkpad
>Use for 5 minutes
>Fans turn on
>Loud as fuck
>Don't turn back off

What the fuck is this shit. Is it faulty?

>>60887748
what's the temperature when it happens?
do you have tpfancontrol installed?

>>60887765
The temperature is fucking hot. If I put my arm close to the fan it feels like it's burning

No I don't but I'll install it later.

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*blocks your path*

I found an X220 with an i7 and IPS screen on eBay for $300. Is that a reasonable price?

>>60887837
>that print screen button
GOD DAMNIT WHAT THE FUCK LELNOVO

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>>60887837
Honestly, fuck off and with your shitty meme.

>>60887612
>tripfagging the OP

I had to show filtered posts you fucking retard. You trying to kill the general?

REVERE IT, PRAISE IT

HAIL THE

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>>60887844
no 150 tops

>>60887630
no

>>60888797
Why not?

>>60888881
to big and bulky

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Is there any place I can buy replacement covers for the screw holes on my bezel?

Pic related.

>>60889310
Yes. several eBay sellers offer them.

how ironic. hp shill made a tpg thread

>>60889535
Shill free version over here.

>>60888442

>>60889535
>only one person likes the 2570p
mmm

X1 carbon? Yay or nay?
It's discounted at 25% but it's still like 100 bucks more expensive than the xps 13 so idk what to do.

>>60887837
*teleports under you with a screwdriver*
*replaces you with a classic keyboard*
Pssh nothing personal kid

>>60889272
Maybe he's a big guy

>>60890261
Choke on a dick you faggot
You did this another time too
Wait for the fucking thread to die

>>60890790
It's nice
If the milspec durability and trackpoint don't interest you that much I don't see why you'd take it over a cheaper as good option

mods delete the other thread?
>>60890955
what the fuck does "disengaging the fan" mean then?

>>60890981
new shill free thread. Report this one.

>>60890987

>>60890901
the durability does interest me because I paid like $800 for my ideapad y580 and it's shit durability wise, pretty much felt like a dead brick a year after buying it.
I want something that will last me at least 3 years and be good enough to browse/program/take notes.
I have a desktop that I plan to use as my main pc too.

>>60887807
if it's hot then it's normal for the fans to kick on full blast...

user problem, not thinkpad problem

you have programs running sucking up 100% cpu and generating the heat

>>60891235
He should still install tpfancontrol and post thermals.

>>60891253
>>60891235
>>60891005
wrong thread, this is the HP general, read the OP.

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W)

ThinkPad general is here >>60890987

>>60891283
Fuck off faggot
Go back to your own shit thread

>>60891304
but anon... we ARE in the shit thread.

>>60891316
>but anon I'm an autist who blindly hates shit
Seriously back to your own thread
Go talk about how hp is ran by pajeets or something since you're so retarded that you'd make another thread after the other shit one got 404d

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>>60891283
>or ThinkPad T, X, W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

>>60891283
fuck off autist, this the older thread

>>60889272
>>60890854
A friend of mine is selling me the i7-3920XM model for 500 bucks, it's in pretty good condition, 16gb of ram and 500gb HDD.

>>60891479
you will need to get an SSD for it

also it's a 6 lbs laptop, it's a workstation meant to be a desktop replacement

Any recommendations for cheap 2x4GB ddr3 sodimns? Got a X200, it unofficially supports 8GB but is picky with what goes in.

>>60891506
they only take either 1r or 2r ram (forget which)
figure out what which that is then literally the cheapest ram you can find

>>60891479
too expensive imo

>>60891506
samsung works on everything, at least in my experience

>>60891519
Based on reviews 2r works but it has to be low density(???). Quite old info though so the rams aren't sold anymore.

>>60891534
Yeah saw someone who got theirs to work, that model isn't sold anymore but might go with a newer iteration.

>>60891479
Seems a bit high anon. It does sound like a really config though

>>60891592
doesn't even have a ssd

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-X240-i5-4300U-1-90GHz-8GB-120GB-SSD-WIFI-WIN-10-DOCK-ref-28-/382126679048?hash=item58f8866408:g:4l0AAOSwMvtZP~97

Should I?

Bah, since two OPs just made some serious clusterfuck I just pinned both threads.

A Dell is fine, too.

T530
1080p
i7 3520M
Nvidia GPU
16GB RAM
New 9 cell battery
Screen calibrator @ palm rest (?)

In very good condition for 280 dollars.
Should I buy this or keep saving up for a W530?

Just got an e6230 for 250 cad (about 190 usd); how'd I do? It's got a i5-3340M, a 320gig hdd, and 4 gigs of ram (put an extra 2 gig stick in there, now I have 6).

>>60892216
I'd say go for it, unless you need the extra GPU power from the W530, but you can buy that T530 then save for a W530 motherboard and put it in.

>>60892139
>x240
avoid like the plague

>>60892216
this looks like a good deal

tho you could try to get a quadcore later

Are the new Lenovo ThinkPads worth it? Looking for a workstation grade laptop for graphical design and 3D shit with emphasis on mobility, budget is up to $2k but I'd rather spend in the mid thousand range. My friend is telling me to get the Gigabyte Aero 14 but the trackpad looks shit and I am not going to carry peripherals when my emphasis is mobility. I just really like using the clit desu

>>60892818
If you can accept new keyboard and ULV trash then it should be fine.
>workstation grade laptop
t470p or p50/p70

>>60890981
It means it's spinning at 100%

>>60892818
Dude, most user reviews on lenovo's US website are positive. If you like the brand (Thinkpad) you know what to expect.

If your emphasis is graphical design and 3d shit, maybe a fully tuned t470p could work for you. It has an kaby-lake quad-core, nvidia graphics shit and all, while being more mobile than the p51.

I think it would fit your needs better, considering graphical and 3d shit at least.

Thanks for the recs brehs. Not a requirement, but would I be able to play an occasional game on medium to high specs on any of these?

>>60893172
I've only used the IBM ThinkPads, so I didn't know what to expect with the new Lenovo ownership

>>60892880
No way to overcome ULV? New keyboards are chiclet, right?

>>60893172
Just to add.

T470p specs:

System component

Intel Core i7-7820HQ Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz)
14" WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS, anti-glare, non-touch
32GB(16+16) DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB GDRR5
1 TB Solid State Drive OPAL2.0 PCIe-NVMe
ThinkPad Battery 6 cell Li-Ion (72Wh)
14.0" WQHD(2560x1440) IPS Anti-Glare Display, No touch, WLAN, WWAN, Paint

For 1800's bucks.


Meanwhile, p51:


System component

Intel Core i7-7820HQ Processor (8MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz)
Windows 10 Pro 64 English
15.6" FHD (1920x1080), anti-glare, IPS
32GB(16+16) DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
NVIDIA Quadro M1200 4GB GDDR5
512GB SSD PCIe TLC OPAL2
6 Cell Li-Polymer Battery, 90Wh

You could expend a bit more and get a Xeon on the p51 tho.

The main thing here, is mobility vs upgrades.

If you get the most basic p51 with a xeon E3 1535M processor, costing $2175,20, you can over the years upgrade a machine that will probably outlast anything you could think of buying. p51 can handle up to 64 gigs of RAM, lots of hard drive options, not even counting M.2 slots. The definitive portable desktop, if you ask me.

But if you just want a simple machine to do it's job, and have mobility too, the t470p will serve you well too. It''s not like the 7820HQq would leave you wanting for more.

>>60893229
Hey, both the 7820HQ and the xeon 1535M ARE NOT ULV, each consuming 45W

Take your time:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-7820HQ-Notebook-Processor.189820.0.html

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Xeon-E3-1535M-v6-professional-laptop-CPU.189815.0.html

>>60893294
The P51 has a 4k screen option.

>>60893339
Im trying to maintain his budget of 2k.

>>60893358
Just seemed a bit unfair to mention the T470p's top screen option against the P51's most basic. It's only 2.2k with the 4k configuration, applying the EPP discount in OP should get it within budget.

https://youtu.be/ZUs8oKa7fqw

>gaming laptops aren't worth it
Are you sure, /tpg/?

>>60893423
piss off

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is there somewhere I can get an x200 keyboard for less than 40 usd?

Is the t570 just the 15.6 inch version of the t470?

>>60893725
yes

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my 13 inch retina MacBook pro 2014 got stolen and I am going through homeowners insurance to get the $1500 that my aunt graciously paid for it to help me through college

I really want to still have a laptop that is running macos and I also want kaby lake but I don't really like the new MacBook pros because I'm gonna need usb c adapters out the ass and it costs another $300 out of my own pocket just to get 4 usb c ports instead of 2 and a touch bar

I just really love how all the programs I use are more stable in macos and how intuitive it is when using multi finger gestures on a trackpad......plus I already have a windows computer and gnu is counterproductive for the tasks that I need to perform on a daily basis

I hear chinkpads are widely supported in the hackintosh community

is there support available or at least confirmed for the T470s to run Sierra and later on High Sierra or should I even bother with chinkpad hackbooks?

>>60893588
get a used one

>>60893905
just get a second had macbook

>>60893423
>business laptops thread
>posting consumer trash

>>60893725
no

>>60892139
Seems okay but the 4th Gen ulvs are a bit underpowered

>>60893423
Yes we are sure now get gaymur shit out of my face
It's consumer shit and it doesn't deserve to be here

>>60893725
Yes
>>60894630
Yes?

>>60893905
That silver x1 carbon is still an abomination but it's also slowly growing on me

Also don't bother, you seem very into macs and os x. A hackintosh system won't do do you any justice. Either go used or save up 300 more

x230 yay or nay?

>>60893358
Just drop the 5% performance increase for a 4k screen. Honestly it's a better allocation of your budget

>>60892880
Those aren't ULV options though

>>60894763
depends

>>60894763
maybe, all depends on what price and you use it for

>>60893926
How good are the batteries though?

My 6 year old Acer has only a sixth of his initial capacity. But that is not a problem, because the battery can be easily swapped.
When the same happens with a macbook, its basically worthless.

>>60895027
Depending on the model it's around a 10 minute process.

>>60895124
Ok, my bad. I thought every Macbook has a battery like the ones in the 12" model.

>>60895148
Those are glorified ipads.
For macbook pros it it doesn't like much of an easy swap but nothing made by apple really is anyway. Here's an ifixit guide for reference
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Retina+Display+Early+2015+Battery+Replacement/45137
As far as I understand
-take off the bottom panel
-unplug the battery
-unplug the speakers (this probably was done to give you a wider working area but I can't tell from ifixit's retarded camera angles though I think you can skip this bit)
-unplug trackpad
-skip all of ifixits bullshit on removing the battery (like what the fuck is all that solvent shit and heater for. Just use a hair dryer you dirty fucking jews)
-heat up the battery but not too much
-take a card of some sorts and pry off
-install new battery and put everything back together
Probably not a 10 but a 15 20 minute process depending on how good you are at prying off electronics

>>60895148
>>60895289
I think I had an autism moment for a second there
Sorry for the typos at the beginning I have a hard time organizing my thoughts

>>60887844
Depends what you need it for. I got one off ebay and it's pretty good. Comes with a sketchy ass bloated Win7 so I'd dban it ASAP.

>>60895289
Thanks, so it really is much easier than i thought.

>>60892257
The T530 uses the same chasis/body as the W530?

Since HP laptops are being shilled.
why the thread is still called /tpg/?

What's an alright price for an X230 or T430 w 4gb and no hdd (europe)?

>>60895954
the 2570p is the superior ultraportable

>>60895954
Why are you fags making such a big deal out of this
/tpg/ is for all business grade laptops
Plus there's only like 3 hp posts here you dipshit

>>60896093
That 4 drive mod seems cool desu

>>60896116
>4 drives
What?

>>60896172
2570p can take 4 drives no? One in original sata bay, one in the caddy, one msata by soldering on a msata slot to the unused USB 3 headers and one last msata by soldering another slot through the esata making for a total of 4 drives or something like that. I vaguely remember something like that in one of 2570p posts

>>60896204
Why do you need 4 drives for something that's designed with portability in mind?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X1-Carbon-i5-5200U-4-GB-RAM-180-GB-SSD-Full-HD-Win-10-/272678186680?hash=item3f7ce2eeb8:g:h2gAAOSw8lpZHsZY

This looks like a good deal. Although the specs are the lowest possible.

>>60896209
Why would you need a quad core with portability in mind? Because it's fucking neat. If I want some autismo number of drives and a quad core in my ultraportable workstation why shouldn't I?
Also isn't having excessive features the whole point of owning a 2570p?

>>60896219
Seems nice but the ram isn't soldered right?
I know a lot of people love to say
>didn't fall for 8gb meme
But in reality anything under 8 is a bad time
especially since your igpu eats up half of your ram

>>60896270
I am pretty sure that the ram is soldered.
Yes, 4gb Ram is extremly small.

>>60896251
>ultraportable workstation
Those two words shouldn't be used together.

>>60896358
Then it's a bad deal anon. Steer away from it

>>60895954
because you touch yourself at night

>>60896204
One 2,5"
Second 2,5" in modded ODD via USB 3.0
Third mSATA in modded ODD via normal SATA
Fourth mSATA in WWAN slot with eSATA>mSATA mod

But it's pretty fucking pointless to keep 4 drives in one laptop, desu. 1TB SSD + 2TB HDD should be enough. If you need more get USB 3.0 dock and connect external 10TB HDDs to store more animu

>>60896429
I thought hiro banned emoji trips.

>>60896424
I know I know
It's like asking for a housefire
But you just can't deny putting a few drives in raid 0 and having a quad core in a 12.5" form factor doesn't sound really fucking neat

>>60896454
No it's not.
And that's the reason 2570p isn't the best ultraportable laptop.

>>60896466
>having desktop-tier performance in 12,5" laptop isn't neat
Your opinion is being discarded right now.

>>60896466
>>60896483
Honestly anon there is not such thing as the best ultraportable
We could all just sit here and count all the reasons why one is better than the other
I'm just happy to have two great options in the 12.5 form factor

Anyone here who uses a used laptop?
Have you ever thought about the preowner jizzing all over it? Or if not that, just touching the keys and the trackpad with his cum fingers?
Like seriously, pretty much everyone jerks off, and i suppose most people arent that clean.

>>60896502
You're right there's no best ultraportable.
But there are some common things you should keep in mind for ultraportable laptops
>No optic drive
>10"-13"
>under 4 lbs
>decent specs
And since second gen Core i are becoming obsolete it's time to choose something that can last a few more years.
And X230 is the first thing that comes to mind.
Of course YMMV.

>>60896595
Clean it?

>>60896612
I wish the Sandy Bridge had a better igpu
There's literally nothing else wrong with it

>>60896657
32nm (increased heat and power consumption) is what is wrong with this CPU.
also old cpu implies old chipset, worse memory support and some other things like no integrated USB 3.0 controller.

>>60887612
Best way to get a T470 or T460 cheap? I'm open to some other suggestion but i need 1080P resolution

>>60896756
why not t460p/t470p?
ULV is trash desu

>>60896756
Discount codes in OP
>>60896789
I mean kaby lake finally surpassed ivy bridge so ULV isn't that bad

>>60896789
>>60896823
I heard the t460p and t470p were shit, they're not? I dont want 2 hour battery life and gettig the shit burnt out of my legs

>>60896823
If you need mobility, ULV is great, while still running most casual stuff pretty well. (Even better when t470 can deliver 12/14hours with normal usage using the 6cell battery.)

Lenovo's website seems to have some discounts right now, but you probably already tryed that.

>>60896859
Under heavy workload, yes, 2 hour.

Normal usage for browsing, photoshop and all? 7-10hors:
https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470p-Core-i7-GeForce-940MX-Laptop.215284.0.html

"Our test unit is equipped with the largest battery available for this device. The Lithium Ion battery that has 72 Wh can be easily removed and replaced. Alternatively, the Lenovo ThinkPad T470p can also be purchased with a smaller 47-Wh battery. Accordingly, the runtimes will then be considerably shorter than we specified here. Without load, our test unit will keep its lights on for 17:39 hours. Under load, however, unfortunately the battery is already empty after 82 minutes, which is mainly due to the power-hungry processor."

And note that, this unit has a quad-core and a dedicated GPU.

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>>60896859
Notebookcheck is your friend
I'd say you should go for ULV unless you're sure you need the extra kick

X250, are they good? I can get one for roughly the same price as the X230

>>60897054
They're okay
Good trackpad
Performance between Sandy bridge and ivy bridge but with better igpu
1080p screen option that doesn't involve chinks through taobao
Go for it

>>60897257
>but with better igpu
iGPU is broadwell CPUs are HARDWARE FAULTY.
So if you care about iGPU either get x230+dual channel memory or x260.

>>60897365
>iGPUs in broadwell CPUs
fixd my finger autism

>>60897054
What is the T series equivalent of this or should I just get a T460 at that point

>>60897365
>>60897376
Thanks didn't know

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anyone have a list of must have packages and software for linux thinkpads

>>60887612
I recently bought a thinkpad x60 so I could libreboot it. However the latch is broken and it looks like the last person who owned it was also a programmer because it has a bunch of autistic stickers. What should I do?

>>60887612
Oh and also after I installed libreboot my think pad makes a high pitched whine. Is there any way to fix it?

>>60897940
who is this semen demon

>>60897978
Powertop

>>60898048
Thanks. It made the whine partially go away.

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Does anybody use thinkfan? How exactly does the lower-bound and upper-bound work? The sample config has temps that overlap, does the next level engage when the current level's upper-bound gets crossed or the next level's lower-bound? How about when going down a level, does it switch when it hits the lower level's upper-bound or the current level's lower-bound?

(0,     0,      55)
(1,     48,     60)
(2,     50,     61)
(3,     52,     63)
(4,     56,     65)
(5,     59,     66)
(7,     63,     32767)

>>60896742
usb 3 is a meme

Is there any special procedure that goes into librebooting a t60 or other such older thinkpads?

>>60898084
I'm pretty sure that's the best you're gonna get

>>60897940
tlp, thinkfan, thinkpad_acpi, tp-smapi, tpacpi-bat, and powertop

>>60898130
In addition, what would be the best linux distro to run on a t60?

$100 for a burner thinkpad
Need hackintosh support.

Got my x220 today. Im a bit worries because the fan seems to go up and down a lot in rpm. The idle is about 50 degrees celsius. I hope thats good enough. But the fan is still more annoying than it should be.

Should I expect it to be unhearable during idle?

>>60898345
There's a dead dog inside it blocking the cooling system
>50 c idle
>I should ask if it's normal

>>6089836
Ok I shouldnt worry so much. I just want everything running at its best. How silent can one get that fan without hurting the cpu?

>>60887612
What's the best thinkpad for $500-700?

Need it for business purposes

>>60896483
>Being a trip faggot with garbage tier opinions

I had to show filtered just to see your idiot thread, no wonder we had to make two.

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>>60898345
I can hear it in a quiet room, but it's not unbearable

>>60898444
Brand new or refurbished? Really just business? So i guess your main focus would be battery life and stability/resistance?

>>60898444
A new L470, with an i5 7200U, and the FHD screen (Tough you could settle for the 720p one and have better battery life, as you said, "for business purposes" comes out for 727 bucks.

Look, you could get old thinkpads for much cheaper, if you don't care too much about battery life. And even fit a ssd in them. Also, don't fall for the "Don't buy the L-Series" meme, they're too mil-spec and quite resistant.

someone make a non-shill /tpg/ please. This one is cancer.

>>60898482
>>60898529
My main focus is that has to run Chrome and it's huge drain, has to be able to open files quickly, be able to use Excel quickly and have enough screen real estate. I bring it places like 1x per week

I thought L was shit, what is the diff with the T

>>60898317
Puppy linux or Slax

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Why the X200t isn't recommended?

>>60898858
that's an x220t

>>60898125
ur virginity is ameme

>>60898858
shit hinge

>>60898446
>buttmad thinkshill being buttmad
what a surprise. Here is your free (You)

>>60898878
there's nothing wrong with the hinges on the tablets

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>>60898869
Sorry I meant X220t.
I'm looking for ultraportable laptop, I've been considering X220/X230, but given the kind of things that I'd do on it keyboard isn't really needed or I can use onscreen keyboard.
>>60898878
So 2560p tablet is better?

>>60898925
>2560p tablet
there is no such thing

>>60898775
Upgrade options, the T has 2 batteries, one inside the notebook chassis, so you can swap it on the go, different ports, and the plastic used to built him is better overall.

The L-series STILL has mil-spec tho, and if you look trough reviews, they usually appraise them. It's just not the """"""real""""" thing.

>>60896483
There are ultra thin 14" 4k nvme 1080 laptops.

It's nothing new and nobody is impressed. You niggerigging $600 of hardware onto existing configurations isn't impressive.

>>60898942
Sorry, I meant 2760p.

>>60898955
>14"
>1080
>Cost: $9001
>2570p is 12,5" and costs $200
what's that? You're a nigger faggot with lack of reading skill?
>$600
But that's a lie, you double nigger faggot.

Wow. Kill yourself ASAP

>>60898955
>It's nothing new
So prove him wrong and show us a 12" alternative to 2570p with quad core processor, dual 2,5" drives. And it has to be business class hardware.
>still waiting

>>60899076
>2570p

Cons

    Thick and heavy compared to Ultrabooks
    Small touchpad
    Good, but not great performance

>>60899076
you aren't getting "desktop tier performance" from a $200 laptop

>>60899120
>Thick and heavy compared to Ultrabooks
Wew lad, even my penis is thick and heavy compared to Ultrabooks
Not to mention every single thinkpad in this thread that is not ULV trash
>Small touchpad
It's bigger than x220/x230. And it features physical buttons, unlike this plastic trash in thinkpads.
>ood, but not great performance
performance is same as x230, and it's upgradeable to quad cores.

Do better than copying and pasting here cluelessly stuff from notebookcheck, nigger.

>>60899142
$200 costs the base. How expensive is i7-3740qm, which is faster than any desktop i5/i7-2600k? $70?
And you can sell the old CPU from base laptop. $250. Wew lad

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>>60899181
>2.7GHz mobile CPU faster than unlocked desktop CPU's

hmmm

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>>60899237
you're a terrible frog shitposter
>b-b-but muh overclocking!
mobile i7 is still faster than stock i7-2600k. Not to mention any current i5.
No more (You)s for you. Get back to your designated shitting street, lelnovo support drone.

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Hello, does anyone know if Thinkpads' built in security is a useful feature? Does it prevent my data from being hacked or something?

Also, do I really have to pay Microsoft 50 burgers a year just to use Words and PPT?

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>>60899268
Just stop before you embarrass yourself further you idiotic shitposter.

>>60899268
>buy unlocked CPU
>don't overclock it
???????????????????
?

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Is this a IPS panel or what, it looks so much better and viewing angles are good in this W520 compared to my T420s, I thought these models dont have IPS, was I wrong?

>>60899385
>cherrypicking benchmarks
kys trash
even if it's slower it's still definitely desktop tier.
>>60899389
i7-3740qm is also unlocked, just like i7-3840qm
ask the T430 fag who was shitposting some time ago in /tpg/ how we was able to overclock his housefire shitpad

>>60895420
For the most part, yes.

>>60896595
Just grab a bottle of bleach and pour it on your keyboard if it bothers you and you are that extremist. But if you aren't, just dampening a cloth in mild soap or bleach then cleaning the keyboard should be enough.
It's not like you're going to get preggo for a couple of dead sperms entering you while you rub the keyboard between your thighs, you know.

>>60899449
it might not be the original screen, 15.6" IPS displays are not very hard to find

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>>60899470
T430 4.2GHz master race here.

Your shitty HP NEETbook can't overclock properly and only does BCLK overclock (unstable shit) and it will not go past ~2.82 GHz (stock is 2.7GHz). You cannot up your clock multiplier like ThinkPad chipsets can.

Also, reminder that I have no thermal issues because I'm not retarded like you are. Here, have a bench from inside the ThinkPad dock that blocks vents.

Get good and neck yourself shill.

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Dear /tpg/,
Please suck the turds from an asshole.
T430 screen suck balls even replaced with the alienware HD+ one. shit viewing angles so i do not see what the point of watching a video on one would be. maybe for shitposting but it's not useful for anything else.

Is it worth waiting for the QHD panel on the x1 carbon or should I just get the 1920*1080 panel?

>>60899160
>my penis is thick and heavy compared to Ultrabooks
You should consider seeing a doctor.

>>60899449
500 series have the best tn screen in existence, even better than macbooks before they went ips.

>>60899766
why are you watching videos from weird angles

T = normal
Ts = slimmer
Tp = ????

>>60899920
performance/normal

T now = ultrabook, ULV CPU's and no GPU

>>60897965
Googone and I'm not sure about the latch

>>60899741
Lmao, this stupid retard is still comparing 14,1" laptop to 12" subnotebook
every fucking time.
Kill yourself.
>>60899808
Why?

>>60899766
What are you on about? Alienware has IPS viewing angles and is fine at any angle except from the bottom.

>>60899766
You got a fake panel mate, sorry.

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>>60899714
I have no idea other than that it is a 1080p one as excepted like the seller said, and I was excepting a shitty TN panel with totally crappy viewing angles just like on my T420s but with higher resolution, but holy fuck it's honestly so much better panel, black is really black with this panel and viewing angles and colors are so much better.

>>60899861
So it is probably a TN panel but a great one instead of the crappy ones in T420 etc.? It seems to be original, at least vendor shows "LEN" so I believe it's original. A pleasant surprise as I excepted a shit panel

>>60900020
You made the comparison, not him you fucking retard.

>>60900020
Nice try. You claimed that your 12 inch shitbook has "desktop tier performance" and then directly compared it to my ThinkPad's 3840QM, as if they're the same thing.

>Comparing my 14 inch workstation to your 12 inch shitbook.

>>>/reddit/

>>60896483
>Your opinion is being discarded right now.

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>>60900044
I didn't compare shit, you dumb negroid. I just said mobile CPUs can be overclocked, just like i7-3840qm in shitpads.
>>60900080
>as if they're the same thing.
Pajeet, try to read up this thread more carefully.
>14 inch
>workstation

>running cpuz benchmark for 5 seconds
>look guys, it's not overheating at all! it's only 90C degrees!

>>60900121
90 C on an overclocked mobile laptop in a dock with shitty thermals sounds fine to me. It doesn't go higher and it isn't throttling.

Sounds like you're anal anguished as fuck right now.

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What's the best 3 cell external battery I can buy for my T440s? I know some of the cell manufacturers are preferred over others.

Also, why are the Whf ratings in the FRUs so jacked up? They don't make any sense.

>>60900135
90C after 5 seconds, dumbass. It's far from being acceptable
>in a dock
it's in a dock because he (you) said so?
You forgot to enable your tripcode

>>60900042
You can id the panel with aida64.

The t4xx series screens are awful. Not as bad as the 2570p screen though. Good thing they started using ips with the t440.

Budget: 800$
Location: France
Size: 14in
Performance: i5/ 8gb ram prefereable
Other requirements: upgradability, T430 and up

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>>60900203

>>60900203
T540p
>sub $200 (us prices)
>3k IPS screen (won't be stock, upgrade will cost you $100)
>nvme support, 1GB/s+ better than sata raid

>>60900203
>>60900253
oh I forgot: no numberpad

>>60900270
Buy a used MacBook retina

>>60900280
no

You guys disgust me, why is everyone poor here?
Recommending $200 USED shit with 1600x900 SCREENS Lmao

>>60900219
6900k is a 1000$ chip, nice try shill.

>>60900290
Then your only other choices are supermarket tier plastic gtx1050 laptops. you know, the ones they shit out yearly.

>>60900135

>>60899741
>Here, have a bench from inside the ThinkPad dock that blocks vents.

How can someone be so retarded?

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What's a reasonably sized SSD?
32GB?

>>60900332
meant for >>60900148

>>60900180
I use Debian though, not Windows

This W520 is a great improvement over my T420s, runs cooler, is more powerful and the display is the biggest improvement which I did not except at all since I was not aware they used better screens on these
IDK did I get that good deal on it though, I paid 400€ + shipping for it (in this country almost all others seem to go 500-600€ most of the time) and it is equipped with i7-2720QM, 8GB of RAM and had a 120GB SSD in it too already and the 1080p panel, I'm happy with it though since I upgraded it to 16GB and cleaned it and replaced the bad condition and worn out keyboard to the one from my T420s which is almost like new, and now it's great, only cons I can think is that the 170W power supply is gigantic, but I don't mind the laptop itself being bigger

>>60900334
256GB

t. owner of 120GB

>>60900148
>he thinks I'm the only one that despises his shillposting FUD tripfaggotry

cute

>>60900334
I mean how much space are you using right now in whatever the hell you're using?

32gb is not reasonable for me, but it's subjective

http://lifehacker.com/5891007/do-i-even-need-to-care-about-processors-anymore

>>60900334
512GB
t. owner of 256GB

>>60900370
Currently?
I'm using HDD, but I'm using less than 10 GB, the rest is taken by my ~/Downloads.
But I'm not planning to download anything, and if I need to I'd use RamDisk.

what's the advantage of HP elitebooks over Lenovo/IBM Thinkpads?

>>60900441
american, toolless serviceability

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>>60887612
is the x2?0 series comfy to type on? I want to replace my t440s and don't mind having a smaller screen as I'll mostly use it for word processing and research, but I really do like the size and layout of my current keyboard.

>>60900469
>toolless serviceability
Soldered CPU/RAM? How's the newer models? GNU/Linux support?

>>60900490
yes

i believe x230 and upper should have pretty much the same keyboard

x220 and earlier use the old keyboard, which i prefer due to the superior layout imo, although both the classic and new one feel good to type on

>>60900219
this is /tpg/ you fucking tard

>>60898476
Take the cover off and clean the motherfucker.
It ain't that hard..

>>60900323
>>60900280
>literally nothing about screen res
>buy a macbook lol
???
>>60900203
any non-s T series thinkpad past the T430
or 3rd gen and higher x1 carbon
your standards are a bit too vague

personally I'd go for whatever the latest normal T model with a 1080p screen thats in your price range with the epp discount. which is either is the T470 or T460

>>60898964
Typing is hard for you, isn't it?

>>60900294
shit bait my man
>>60900334
>>60900356
>>60900379
as big as you can afford
>t.32 gb msata ssd owner

>>60899268
>cpuboss.com
get off my board shitposting piece of shit

>>60887612
budget would be 500USD including an SSD
size would preferebly small, I want something I can throw into a small backpack. I need long battery life, 8gb ddr3, and prefer an i5 - i7, I really emphasize on battery life and would like an i7

I tried putting a harddrive into my x220 from an old laptop and it's too thick, any good ssd/hdd options for cheap? or should i just scavenge the ssd from my desktop?

>>60900441
which elitebook compared to what thinkpad

>>60899449
Still TN but looks fair enough.
What distro are you running?

>>60900613
X220 and X230 only take 7mm height drives, most HDD's are 9.5mm, almost all SSD's are 7mm

not sure why you would want to cheap out on an SSD, it'll last for years and you can always put it in a newer machine

Samsung 850 EVO, Crucial MX300, SandDisk SSD PLUS, are what I would look at.

Samsung is overall the best in performance and reliability and has 5 year warranty. Crucial and SanDisk have 3 year warranties. Crucial has better performance and SanDisk is the cheapest.

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>>60900520
>keyboard
Is it really important?

>>60900573
It's been 30 hours since I slept, i'm just posting here hoping I'd slep.

>>60900620
Tablet PC

>>60900571
>epp discount
hmm ?

>>60900706
No

Is the x320 mod still available somewhere?

>>60900780
Then why the fuss over it and mods to swap the new keyboard with old one?
Autism?
IMO the newer keyboards are easier to clean.

>>60898097
So nobody uses thinkfan?

>>60900839
I use thinkfan
>a usb fan plugged into my laptop

>>60900706
well yeah, it's how you interact with the digital world and use it to express your ideas. try doing that on an apple keyboard, you'll feel like a retarded homosexual child because the keyboard is designed for children, fags and airheaded women rather than normal, functional adults who need a tool to express their ideas.

>>60900691
I want to cheap out because i just bought the laptop and already spent a lot of money this week and I'm poor

>>60900881
*tool to complete a task

>>60900881
>ideas
You sound like a the kind of person who has shit ideas anon

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Do your thinkpads also lose the pattern of the material and change color on the areas of the trackpad where you use it the most?

Pic related, mine

>>60900899
don't ever look at me in that tone of voice ever again you putrid faggit, the word used is irrelevant and can be substituted for anything that will serve your purposes, such as "latent homosexuality" or "lust for cock"

>>60901030
I like dudes actually lol, and I think your ideas are shit

>>60900764
Then nothing. Both lenovo and hp have shitty tablets that you can't even be a draw fag on unless you're used to being a draw fag on a good tablet and
They're still nice laptops but for either one I'd rather pick up the ultraportable variant

>>60900962
Who is that semen demon
I mean the one the right
Is that a third gen x1 carbon?

Also yeah grease and dirt from your hand just rubs off over time

>>60901180
No it's a t460p
Is there any way to prevent it? It didn't happen on my old one

>>60901222
For being a p variant she's not too thicc from this angle
Anyway no not really I guess
I kind of wanna say wash your hands but you probably do
It's just average wear and tear anon
You can't prevent it

Is there anything in the X series with a 16:10 display and at least a gen 2 Core CPU?

>>60901278
the x200 I think? or x201?

>>60901251
She's not thicc but just right. At work I have the t450s and it's only slightly slimmer. I see no reason why people avoid the qt p versions so much. As you can see on the photo, she's inviting and gives you a lot of possibilities

>>60900603
>buuu these number are fake, geekbench is lying!
*puffing air at the melting t430*
>t430 is best! thinkpads are the only good laptops!

>>60901278
no

unless you want to count the X62 mod

Any reason to not consider a X250 / Carbon X1 Gen 3?

>NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB GDRR5
I'm sorry, but isn't that graphics card a bit outdated? For less I can get www_.newegg._com/ Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233191
For a slightly weaker processor, much better video card, and the same mobility in weight and size with a 2 hour difference in battery. From what I understand, the 1000 series NVIDIA GPUs are leaps and bounds better than their predecessors, right? Then, what makes the t470p the better laptop here? The only real gripe I have with the Aero 14 is the shitty trackpad that might force me to use a mouse on the go, but otherwise it looks like a better deal to me. Please convince me lads, I've used IBM ThinkPads all my life for their cost effectiveness and durability.

>>60901496
>2GB
lmao

Hello /tpg/, what does it mean when my battery light on my T60 is flashing orange?

>>60901690
it's dead but charging, it should stop flashing and become solid orange and then turn slow blinking green

I think that's how it works anyways

>>60900775
nevermind youre in france

so I need a cheal laptop and there is this thinkpad meme so why not

Budget: $100ish
Location: whatever is in europe and has US layout
Size: whatever 13 or 15
Performance: playing video without lag
Other requirements: a fucking trackpad

Dont listen to the dumb tripfag HP shill ITT. I have a 2570p and while it has an upgradable processor unlike x230, here's what sucks ass-
>shitty screen(I don't think it is upgradable, correct me if I'm wrong)
>mediocre keyboard(no upgrades, x230's is better and yet you can still install the classic one)
>horrible trackpoint(if you are a thinkpad fan you'll probably puke your guts out while using it. This is definitely a no go for any old thinkpad fags who used to own t60s and other early ibms)
>mediocre build quality. The guts are "protected" by a thin pseudo metal covering and I wouldn't want to risk it even accidentally falling down on the ground. Also, while metal is durable, it can acquire dents. Metal also adds to the weight and bulky feeling of the laptop. This could have been solved by using some high grade carbon fibre(like on a thinkpad) which is durable, light weight and feels sleek.
As you can probably guess, I'll be trading it for an x230/x220 or t420/t430. For a thinkpad user, it is not worth it. Also, the upgradable CPU shouldn't be a priority as the price per performance of an upgrade is not justifiable(atleast for me). It is better to upgrade a desktop computer(where the performance increase is significant). Also, Add to the cost a good thermal paste(and maybe a bigger heat sink).

>>60902045
To add further: it basically is just like HP thought, "hey what if we try to merge together a Mac with a thinkpad?"
while their motives were right , what they created in my eyes, was an abomination

>>60898097
I should have read the entire

man thinkfan.conf

and not just the fan level section

"If the temperature reaches the upper bound, we switch to the next fan level, and if it drops below the lower bound, we switch to the previous fan level."

what's the best thinkpad money can buy

>>60902045
Oh, I also missed out that its lacks middle mouse button. My bad. You'd be disappointed by this if you were a loyal thinkpad user

>>60902013
found a Thinkpad L412 at 90 is this any good?

>>60902142
no

>>60902167
fuck, it looked good

>>60889272
I have one, and I'm fine with it. Sure it's big and bulky, but my phone and tablet both fit the ubermobile niche for me.

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>>60902013
>Budget: $100ish
>Performance: playing video without lag

uh do you mean like solitaire and minesweeper?

>>60902167
found a Thinkpad X301 with a 128g SSD and 4gb of ram at 90. is this good?

>>60902197
a fucking raspberry pi can play 1080p video without lag I'm sure I'll find something
I hope
hopefully

>>60887612

What's the /tpg/'s aproved OS for a T420?
> IDK to left it with Win7 or try some distro's on it
Any good distro for mah Chinkpad?

>inb4 bad engrish

>>60902487
windows 10

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Rip Thinkpad screen

>>60902487
Just use whatever distro you like best. Im using Manjaro KDE for mainly 3 reasons, its as fast to setup as Ubuntu, AUR, and non-free Nvidia drivers are setup with bumblebee automatically.

>>60902564
welp apparently the backlight fuse or either all the spare screens and lcd cables i had went bad at the same time

>>60896982
even then apparently the ULV processors aren't too bad
there was someone on reddit who was saying they could play Overwatch on low at 60fps with the lowest i5

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What am I in for?

I am a fan of the soft rim trackpoint, is there a way of installing them in my new T460?

Is cutting off the bottom part of the original soft rim trackpoint going to do it?

>>60903428
a rather thiccpad
also, you should have bought the 65w adapter
it's a £1.20 on the UK student store

how do i reduce the noise level of my thinkpad while running linux?

>>60903526
you install a proper os like mac os

>>60903526
thinkfan

>>60903428
>two Windows 10's
>two fingerprint readers

>not upgrading the hard drive yourself
>didn't get the 4k screen
>didn't get the extended battery

>>60903072 You got my curiosity

>>60902487 Here
What others distro's can use the AUR repo (besides Arch) ?

>>60901496
bump

>>60903569
alright, i installed thinkfan, what next? In additon, the battery light is at solid orange, but seems to not be charging my computer. Anything to help this?

>>60903626
if its not charging your battery is probably broken

>>60903574
>4k screen

>>60903526
using intel-pstate? then switch to powersave governor

>>60887612
noobfag here. is the T420 a good thinkpad?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Intel-Core-i5-2-50GHz-CPU-4GB-SDRAM-NO-HDD-OS-/172719245215?hash=item2836de879f:g:IL0AAOSwq1JZOG9e

cop or not?

>>60903953
average price, nothing special

try looking for T430's instead, they have better graphics performance and USB 3.0

since my t430's motherboard kicked the bucket i just got this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182619721743

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T530-15-6-2-80GHz-i7-3840QM-Quad-8gb-180gb-SSD-Windows-8-/142405884250?hash=item21280d595a:g:5d0AAOSw7GRZNb7a

Should i get it ?

>>60903953
I paid $40 more and got a 320GB HDD, 1600x900 screen, a power supply, and the NV4200M.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/322529119017
thoughts? please respond

>>60904308
bretty damn good for any w530
especially one with the xm cpus
I'd be worried about throttling tho

>>60904308
price seems a little steep, also the lid does not look very straight

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>mounted my ThinkPad like pic related
>Temps skyrocketed to 95c
>what the fuck
>move across the room
>place on flat surface
>65c on full load
>what
>oh right heatpipes have liquid inside and wrong orientation can fuck up the evaporation process
>....
>there's no gravity in space
>heatpipes can't function
>... moon landing was faked

>>60904453
gravity was working against you

in space it does nothing

>>60902045
Pics?
So X series thinkpad is better ?
Does the difference in performance between second and third generation CPU really that important?

Is there any way to revive a dead thinkpad battery?

why does /g/ have access to a Lenvoo enterprise perks code, and where did they get it

>>60904428
not sure what you mean

X220 with an i5 and 8 gb ram, worth for $130? Has a 320 HDD but I'd probably get an SSD for it.

>>60900334
I have 4 different 256gb SSDs.
Spend the money on 512 anon, or you'll end up like me.

>>60905119
yes

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>>60904453
They are modified to work better in space.
I am curious if the NASA A31p's had GPU issues.

>>60902013
>cheal laptop

>>60902205
shit screen and performance
Best Lenovo keyboard bar none and build.

>>60901496
bump

New thread: >>60906978

>>60905814
>T440p
Huh, looks nice but those non-physical buttons are awful, at least for me.