New firefox released

Cool, glad firefox finally has multiprocess support now, it'll hopefully speed things up big time.

>updating

>>60884566
>>60885637
What is left to tell here? We need an alternative obviously

>>60885656
There's Palemoon and Qutebrower

>>60884566
>Simplified the download button and download status panel
Good. It confused the hell out of me.

>>60885202

>>60885652
>>60885656
It finally comes with the multiprocess support /g/ has been dying for.

>>60884566
>Firefox
>days away from 2018

https://chromium.woolyss.com/

>>60885948
>Using Google botnet :^)

>>60885948
use ungoogled chromium at least

>>60886017
>ungoogled chromium
What's that?

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>>60884566
I updated c:

>>60886045
Hey, here's a tip, run command this as admin while FireFox is closed:

del /Q "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\browser\features\*" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\crashreporter.exe" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.VisualElementsManifest.xml" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\maintenanceservice.exe" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\maintenanceservice_installer.exe" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\minidump-analyzer.exe" "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\pingsender.exe"

>>60886017
No thanks, henrypp's builds are better.

>>60886059
>C:\Program Files...

winfags...

What the fuck?

Is ESR going to be dropped?

>>60886068
Well yeah. Or wherever you have it on Linex. Get rid of the botnet that's in /browser/features/ folder

>>60886161
No, yesterday there were two ESRs being supported: 45 from last year and 52. 45 has reached end of life and won't be supported anymore, use 52 now.

>>60886161
>Is ESR going to be dropped?
No, each ESR version has about a year of support (last two months overlap with the next release). It's end of life for ESR45, but ESR52 exists.

>>60886195
>>60886203

Got it thanks.

>>60885656
Waterfox.

Faster, support for all addons, better privacy

>>60886287
What's the differences between all those firefox clones?

>>60886383
Just the compile flags. Waterfox and cyberfox are just firefox compiled differently. Pale Moon on the other hand actually develops itself as an independent fork, even switched HTML engine.

>>60885656
>>60885674
>>60885761

No we don't fuck off you wining faggots.

>>60886463
>Just the compile flags
So?

>>60884566
beta 55 uses 4 content processes and 1 GPU process. it's so fucking fast it first I thought it disabled my addons or reset my profile. amazing. mozilla back in the game

>>60884566
Blazing fast, breeeehs.

>>60884783
>multiprocess support now
>Multiprocess Windows 0/1 (Disabled by add-ons)
What I do wrong?

>>60886604
It should be enabled by default, are you on 54 stable?

>>60886604
a)you have incompatible addons
b)you can force enable it anyways
c)lurk more this feature has been out for like 10+ version but it was "hidden" in about:config

>>60886629
Yes

>using webkit browser

>>60886637
I know how but before it would shoot up the CPU I wonder if the fixed it.

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Should I disable webgl?

HOW DO I FORCE UPDATE ANONS

>>60886656
Firefox doesn't use webkit except for the iOS version because apple forces them to.

>>60886659
never rises above 4%-6% on heavy pages during loading on 4790k + 1070
session restore is instant. yes, instant.

>>60886690
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

>>60886697
Well, it seems like when I disable the addons the cpu spike doesn't happen anymore.

Looks like addon fuckery to me since addons don't work as they should and lag.

>>60886724
Try each addon one at a time and let the devs of the addon know the addon acts weird with multiprocess turned on.

>>60886694
I think he means the addons.

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>>60886724
blame shitty addons and lazy devs and check here:

https://www.arewee10syet.com/

I only use 4 and they all work fine even while being non-webextension

>>60886762
>greasemonkey is legacy

i hope they go into trash with their shitty linux software

after kde's bluetooth manager, this shit is the only one that needs pulseaudio as a dependency

of course i don't give a fuck about kde, but this is a pretty important piece of software

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>>60884566
Alright, since Firefox is a sinking ship I need to find replacements on Chrome for my most used extensions.


What would you guys suggest as a replacement for DownloadThemAll?

>>60886781
do they have a stable webext version yet? I know there is a beta of ublock but it has worse performance and test version of https everywhere
>>60886802
make a chrome thread :^)

>Arch linux firefox is still at 53
Nice muh bleeding edge rolling release you got here with your outdated packages.

>>60886824
>make a chrome thread :^)
But it's a FF extension! An immensely good one at that too.

>>60886802
palemoon

nightly is pretty comfy with electrolysis

>>60886694
Firefox for iOS confirmed for best browser

>>60886886
>maintained by a single guy
>doesnt backport security patches

hmmm

Tampermonkey or Greasemonkey? Grease will be dead in september. Are there any cons / pros of switching to Tamper?

>>60886920
>its not made by a single guy

>>60886886
How is it compatible with all FF add ons while being fundamentally different? I'm not buying it.

>>60886824
Why did mozilla switch to webextenstions?

>>60886970
these things are answered in the sites FAQ and technical specs sections. please read.

>>60886983
moar addons/less user fuckery

>>60886962
he didnt make anything its a fork
he just maintains a ancient versioned fork

>>60886983
its a new web standard
chrome and edge picked it up too

>>60886970
>>60886986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Moon_%28web_browser%29

>Pale Moon is a fork of Firefox

>>60886996
>>60887054
Pale Moon doesn't use the gecko engine anymore, it uses one called goanna. I think it still uses spidermonkey for javascript but I wouldn't be surprised if they ditched that too. It's a fork at this point, no longer just a maintained older version of firefox.

>>60887108
the problem is to have a compatibility layer there that isnt being maintained with backports from the program they based it off of they are creating vulnerabilities and those cant be ignored

not to mention how will they enable new features like sandboxed tabs?

>>60886833

>Flag Date
>2017-06-13

I think they know, anon.

>>60886026
a placebo for retards

>>60886783
Blame your distro's maintainers.

>>60887253
>>60887240
delete pls<3

>>60887293
No U.

>>60886833
You can compile you own package.

Well, firefox now requires pulseaudio for working sound in GNU/Linux, I'll be using livestreamer for everything video watching now.

>>60887301
no bully T_T

>>60887323
REEEEE
B-B-BUTT
LINUX SUXXXX

t.wintard

>>60887253
it's supposed that, well, since most shitty distributions also supply pulseaudio, there's no reason to compile it with alsa only support

however, even if you compile it with alsa support, it's unmaintained so sooner or later the code is gonna be removed from upstream (probably when android stops relying on alsa as audio output)

Just uninstalled, fucking Lagfox

>>60887324
you have palemoon you know

stable, no crashes, low ram usage, still monolithic, full html5 support with proper rendering, plugins and stuff

how do I make every video loop?

this doesn't work in tampermonkey but works great in greasemonkey

var video = document.querySelector('body > video');
video.loop = true;

there is also this but it doesn't loop mp4

var vids = document.getElementsByTagName("video");
for (i = 0; i < vids.length; i++) vids[i].setAttribute("loop", "true");
void 0;

>>60886065
>windows only
>better

>>60887324

There is nothing wrong with pulse audio, alsa sucks.

>>60887441
you know that pulseaudio it's a software mixer actually outputting to alsa?

except it sucks at mixing.

except it has weird cpu spikes, unacceptable lags and un-understandable crashes when alsa has no problems

oh and it also connects to the internet by itself.

and it's of course ((red hat)) approved, alike systemd

>>60887379
works fine on my pi3

chrome on the other hand was choppy and slow

When does Quantum hit nightly?
Just switched for Elecrolysis and everything is going smoothe

>>60887597
For me, scrolling was laggy with Firefox (holding mouse 2). It's fine with Vivaldi or Chrome

On what days of the week does beta update?

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>>60887712
Monday-Friday

>>60887686
enable smooth scrolling?
thats not lag idiot

>>60884566
57 when?

>>60887825
September

>>60887811
It was enabled fucking douche

>>60887882
>>60887686
kys memer

>>60884566

still sucks

>>60887894
fuck you, Firefox sucks

>>60887942
>nigger can't figure out for to use a PC
>f-fuck you!!! firefox sucks!!!
ugh okay? lol

>>60887964
>can't figure
Like what?

>Simplified the download button and download status panel
in what way did they ruin it?

>>60888016
go install chrome you dumbfuck

>>60888022
no thanks goldstein

>>60888016
>>60888022
>>60888032
They didn't ruin it.

>>60888108
It's actually functional now, I like it

when's dev edition finally fusing with beta?

>>60886802
https://github.com/Ethan-ks/fsic

>>60888108
>>60888121
i updated and it looks and functions exactly the same?

>>60888157
It merged together last release and now the dev branding is getting dropped.

>>60884566
>Firefox updates.
Haven't given a shit since like 8.0

Ghacks if anyone is interested
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/06/13/firefox-54-0-find-out-what-is-new/

>>60888224
>tripfag.
Haven't given a shit ever

>>60888215
shit, already? wish nightly was a bit more stable to move on to it but it breaks jewtube and other shit every other week

>>60888299
Why even use Firefox, it crashes constantly, Chrome is the new standard.

>>60888308
>t. pissphone
don't make me finally filter you, faggot

>>60888318
I'm hetero, you waste of space.

>>60888354
Tripfags are not hetero.

>>60888354
>tripfag
>not a raging homo

>>60888363
Is that what you tell yourself when you are having an angry wank?

REEEE
FUCKING INSTALL CHROME YOU FIREFAGS

WTF WHY SERIOUSLY WHY
UGH SO DONE WITH THIS FUCKING PLACE

>>60888308
>lol [software I don't like] crashes constantly

>>60888380
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>HOW DARE YOU LIKE WHAT I DON'T LIKE

>>60888396
what ever i give up
enjoy your life without chrome

>>60888380

>being this much of a cuck for a big corp

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>>60888383
Try and find a type of crash that hasn't increased in frequency literally daily, I fucking dare you.

>>60888477
Shut up tripcuck

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Flashgot STILL unsupported for electrolysis.
Day: ruined

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>>60888477
Looks like it's decreasing to me.

>literally nothing has been ported to webextensions which will be obligatory in November
>gorhill refuses to port ublock and umatrix until mozilla fixes the api cause webextensions don't even work like they're supposed to
>self destructing cookies already got disabled on nightly for not being multiprocess
really ugly future

>>60888731
>per 100 active daily installs
>8k crashes
Dude I don't even know what that chart is showing.

>>60888731
Also version 54 was released today and your chart shows no crashes up until the 12th, which was yesterday lol.

Cool

>>60888820
>forcing your users to move to a new, less usable standard despite none of them seeing the point in it
why

>>60888820
use cookie autodelete

works just fine

What?

Where is the 55 beta version?

>>60889954
It always comes out a few days after stable since it's semi weekly.

>>60889954
see
>>60887803
get here
>>60886710
in candidates folder

>>60887324
Linux just gets worse and worse.

Tested, slower performing than Firefox ESR 52.2.2 (also released today) but a fairly significant margin in Octane 2.0, Browser Bench, and several other benchmarks.

The E10S bullshit offers nothing I don't already get, been using Firefox for many years now, haven't had my portable install actually crash since Sept 2013 according to the health report so, no thanks, I'm good with ESR 52.2.2.

>Firefox just getting worse as time passes

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>>60889989
>>60890124

Thanks

Goddam, it finally broke my Automatic Save Folder extension

im not seeing multiple processes. what am i doing wrong?

>>60890423
Check about:support and it'll say if it's enabled or not. What does it say?

>>60890495
>>60890423
Also. You are on version 54, right?

>>60886920
>doesnt backport security patches
every PM release has security fixes backported from newer FX releases

I've seen you throw these lies around in other browser threads. what do you get out of attacking competing web browsers?

is there a gtk2 version

>>60886938
Violentmonkey

>>60892247
meh too hipster

just upgraded
it legitimately seems worse in terms of performance

>>60890495
Different person. Disabled by add-ons.

Fucking Mozilla.

>>60892368
Update on this: CanvasBlocker was preventing it.

So now I get to choose to be tracked via canvases or have multiprocess. Thanks Mozilla!

>>60892382
Take that back. It was HeaderControlRevived. Switched to ReferrerBlocker, for what I used it for does the same thing

>>60892462
Alright, cool. Glad you managed to get that addon sorted out and now multiprocess works now.

>>60892470
Multiprocess does seem to be a bit smoother. FF54 with multiprocess disabled seemed to be decidedly less smooth than FF53.

What's a good autorefresh plugin that notifies you of page updates? Check4Change is botnet shit (though you can fix that with hosts file tweaks) and it isn't compatible with multiprocess.

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i had to delete and remake my profile recently and my FF54 doesn't have multiprocess anymore and i dont see an option for it.
Just says disabled

>>60890339
>Multiprocess doens't improve raw javascript performance

Wow, color me surprised.

Ares6 perfomance is up 28% and speedometer 37% on nightly vs ESR.

>>60892592
summerfag

>>60892648
>implying

finally jumped on the nightly train

electrolysis and multiprocess is working just fine for me

when is photon and quantum coming to nightly?

>>60892836
I think you misunderstand how nightly works, friend. Quantum and photon are being added incrementally, not in a single big patch. You can enable a number of the features in about:config

>>60887592
I actually use pulseaudio for mixing a whole lot, and it works just fine when you actually need it.

Alsa and it's simple dmix is totally perfect and much better for playing music and audio in general on your own computer.

I have a NAS box that's mostly on that's hooked up to my surround receiver with SPDIF and alsa's AC3 output plugin. It's totally nice to be able to play on the surround setup from any laptop.

I have no idea why pulseaudio is made active and default on all distributions since it's just a waste of resources in most cases - but it's does work just fine when you actually need it for things like playing audio over the local network. There's bluetooth but you can't do 5.1 surround over it.

create ``browser.tabs.remote.force-enable`` in about:config, set it to true

>>60887441
You suck

>>60887592
Pulseaudio sucks

>>60886463
Will it still support addons that Firefox will stop supporting?

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Does that means...?
>firefox.exe
>firefox.exe
>firefox.exe
>firefox.exe

>>60884566
Enabled multiprocess and now have 2 Firefox.exe. Is this normal?

All my current add-ons are supposedly supported by multiprocess, but it still says it's deactivated by add-ons. What the fuck?
Do I have to completely uninstall unsupported add-ons? Or should I just force enable it?

>>60895015
I forced it and it werks.

>>60884566

>multiprocess won't be enabled to all users even though we promised FireFox 54 to have this 8 months ago

yeah i'm not giving FireShit another chance.

Chrome master race reporting in even though i hate Google

>>60895132
redditor talking shit about firefox, go back to your site

>>60895095
Yeah I force enabled it and it seems everything's working fine.

>>60895132
>>60895139
just enable it yourselves you fucking crybabies.

>>60895139

LMAO those comments

"you want multiprocess, here write these 20 commands into about:config"

What does GNU/Linux and FireFox have in common? Open. Fucking. Source.

>uBlock Origin disables multiprocess feature

Is FireFox developed by advertising agencies?

>>60895132
They said they will enable it first for users without addons, this is how it was when they enabled e10s with single process in 48,

>>60895001
Please respond. Firefox is MUCH faster for me with this multiprocess shit!

>>60895001
>>60895392
>multiprocess
>MULTIprocess
>MULTI
>why do I have multiple firefox.exe?
Either terrible b8 or really dumb.

>>60895565
But i only have 2 of them, not 3 or 5?

>>60895604
What does the Multiprocess Windows field in about:support say?

>>60895711
1/1 (Enabled by default)

>>60895728
Do you have multiple tabs with different domains open?

>>60895751
Yeah.

>>60895769
And what's your dom.ipc.processCount value in about:config?

>>60895778
1.

>>60895789
Set it to 4 or 8 and restart FF.

So do these new firefox versions only allow addons that are approved by mozilla? I like using joke addons like the (((coincidence detector))) that wouldn't be approved by these faggots.

>>60895799
Ooh, okay. Will i get any benefit out of it? Is 1 default for everyone?

>>60895803
Increasing the value splits tabs into more processes, so slowdown in 1 tab will affect fewer other tabs the higher your multiprocess count is, at the cost of using more ram.

Firefox split the GPU process into a separate process last year, which is why you saw 2 processes, 1 content process and GPU process. Now you can have the separated gpu process and a number of content processes equal to dom.ipc.processCount.

I'm not sure if this works on FF54 but you can try setting the value as -1 to go full chrome and generate 1 process per tab.

Is there an equivalent to self destructing cookies that works with multiprocess out yet?

>>60886802
idm

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>muh autismaddons

>>60886065
>not even inox or iridium patchsets included
>better

>>60895898
Not exactly equivalent

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lowcarb/

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autodelete/

There's no webextension API to delete localstorage yet so I believe these only delete cookies right now.

I kinda wish Mozilla kept the "Aurora" brands when they merged it with Beta.

>>60894933
Pretty much but with more bloat.

>>60894933
It stops at 5 or 6 processes by default because Mozilla deliberately limited it to 4 content processes, 1 chrome process, and 1 GPU process (if supported, currently windows only)

>>60895800
Doesn't have to be approved by Mozilla you just need an AMO account so you can get a key to sign it and you can host it yourself.

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>>60884566
>multithreading
>no longer constrained to 100% cpu
>leaks even more

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>>60888820
>>60889336
Only an idiot wouldn't see the point of killing XUL extensions. Take a look at this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dafizilla-viewsourcewith/
This extension allows you to take content from a page, download it to a temporal folder and then open it in a program.
XUL extensions have access to the same shit Firefox does, so they can download a script and execute it, delete/rename files in your system, use your connection to download/upload shit, etc.
XUL extensions are a big security risk and Mozilla wastes too many resources checking them for compatibility (since any change in FF's code can and will break addons -see the FF 4 drama) and checking that they're not malicious.
Plus, you cannot deny them permissions and make multiprocess a pain in the ass.

>>60892046
Its been gtk3 since version 46. If you check the OP, ESR 45 is dead now.

>>60892356
This. When I open a new tab with a video playing and try to pause there is now a noticeable delay before the command registers. If I go back to a single process Firefox this delay isn't there.

It just seems worse than before. Are there any benefits?

>>60896747
It kept support for gtk2 till 53.

>>60897265
Yeah, apparently ESR 52 version will keep it until mid 2018.

>>60897265
It's still supported. 53 in debian is builded with gtk2, and code isn't removed from firefox either.

>>60895829
Thanks anon. Cant remember last time my Firefox was so fast. RAM usage is a bit higher though.

>>60895829
Firefox currently cannot actually "go full chrome" because chromium is slightly more intelligent about spawning processes. With chromium it only spawns a new process for a tab if the websites are different. This prevents wasted memory because chrome can share redundant content between tabs. On Firefox the current behavior is to spawn a new process for each tab which means each process is brand new and has its own content which may be exactly the same as the content in another process. It's not very efficient but it's still somewhat useful. Mozilla is looking to group tabs of the same domain into one process so that Firefox does not needlessly spawn new processes but that's a future development.

Loving it so far, no more lag and breaks.


TIME TO LEAVE CHROME

>>60899751
This.

Does findbartweak still work?

>>60900154
updated, still works

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>>60892592
about:config
New Boolean
browser.tabs.remote.force-enable
true

Cool

>>60900950
this
works for me