kubuntu post-14.04 are all shit?

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Anything past 14.04 eventually becomes too much of a nuisance stability-wise to use for me

I've been using Xubuntu 14.04 for about a year now and I don't plan to """"upgrade"""" any time soon

>>60852359
what happened? they were doing great things, and now it seems like shits on fire and pointed at the ground.
Is it just us? Surely there would be a lot of noise from the greater community if it started to get broken... Is there new people in control or something?
I'm a bit of a hermit, so I might not hear about it anyway, but iv'e seen no mention of gaggles of neckbeards bereavement-wailing about its decline.... or have they all gone full retard and now use ubuntu? (which still seems to have a network and cli only installer, so maybe all is not lost)
....but plasma?......FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuckoffcunt

Ubuntu flavours are quite bloated, the best option is to get ubuntu server/minimal and from there install whatever de or wm you want.

>>60852259
KDE 5 is repulsive, buggy garbage.

>>60852677
It's not 2014. anymore. Try it for yourself. Oh, and by the way, some people would actually prefer file picker with thumbnails and no screen tearing "bloat".

>>60852645
Umm... systemd and amazon happened

>>60852259
16.04 was a turd in the beginning, but is better now. 16.10 is also mature enough not to be garbage. I rarely have issues with it anymore.

>>60852686
It's not about features or bloat.. it's about it not working.. or even installing.
I have not experienced such an apparently shit software package for a long time. I'm stunned that any linux is as bad as the experience ive been getting post-14... i want to update, but can't... or can but end upo with a system so fragile that all i use it for is watching video.
I'm stunned. Plasma5 should have been fully ironed and ready to wear by now.

>>60852675
I was considering the server altinstall and then sudo apt-et install kubuntu-desktop path... but from what ive experienced in a few weeks of 15, before killing it in sheer horror, and then nearly a year of 16... before getting tired of it's flaky bullshit... but to have the 17 installer fail twice on different usb sticks.. im thinking that the desktop environment post-14 is having personal issues with my hardware.. but 6Gb on an i5 with GTX660 really should not have such problems.
That's what I mean, i dont comprehend how its got this bad. Seems possible its just me, but I'm seriously starting to doubt that it's an isolated or even uncommon issue. I'm thinking it's just briadly shithouse on everything... mostly any pc older then a year.. methinks.
That's not how linux is supposed to be!

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>>60852645
There's no need to be upset Pajeet

I understand your frustration

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>>60853456
ya rly
...so then it is an issue.. and there is community outrage... right?
Can anyone comment on whats been said and done? WHats the general feel for where it;s going to end up and whats causing it?...seen any dev comments?