/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60849994
Responding to the previous thread,so anything better than a 1070 would be a waste, so even an regular 1080? Should I just go ahead and buy a 1440p monitor and sell my current one (which is still new)?

is the oem key in ebay legit or a scam I saw win 7 key go for 3 - 5$

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>>60850021
My build i'm getting https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TZjjkT

Conflicted on the GPU. Want an aftermarket with fans instead of blower but don't know which to get.

Budget is it's current price, not willing to increase it by more than $50.

1440p 144hz. I don't play many triple A games cus my current computer is a potato.

Lower price while not damaging the specs/performance would be nice.

>>60850072
>1440p for 60hz if you are getting a 1070.
>1080 is 1440p 80-100Hz, 30Hz 4K
>1080Ti 120+Hz 1440p, about 60Hz 4K

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hgc6Z8
How is it and how can it be improved?
Also what is the opinion of the 1030?

>>60850258
RX 580 and 1060 6GB are also 1440p capable by the way, ultra settings are a meme, so with the 1070 you have 80+ FPS even on ultra.

>>60850318
Pay $30 more for the 1050, 1030 is very bad value unless you worry a fuckton about your energy bills or noise (some 1030s have passive cooling)

>>60850107
getting rid of tempered glass meme case and rgb meme is a good way to reduce price
>>60850318
>1030
what the hell is that? do this >>60850388
>>60850376
>rx580
impossible to obtain for under $400
>1060 6GB
maybe at lower settings, but not gonna risk it

>>60850402

>rx580
impossible to obtain for under $400
>1060 6GB
maybe at lower settings, but not gonna risk it

Check some benchmarks, a lot of tech channels use ultra settings which are really bad since they offer minimal graphical improvement for a high loss in performance, most games run at very high at 60+fps on 1060 6GB and RX 580, overclocking an RX 480 or 570 could achieve same results if you are lucky. Also this depends on the game, DOOM, Overwatch, Titanfall 2. and games older than 2015 are no problem.

how much space should there be below my GPU? my gpu's stock fan's about 1-2 inches from my case's side/wall

Is this a good build?
I'm waiting to see how Vega is before I decide on a GPU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L3QCnn

Also, I obviously like Corsair, I've had great experience with their customer support and a bad experience with multiple other brands, so I wanted to go with them one every option I could. Also, it gives my build a bit of a theme.

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>>60850318
>cheaping out on the CPU while wasting money on the SSD and case
You do realize a CPU like that would barely be able to take advantage of the SSDs speed?
>1030
Just do what this anon said >>60850388
>400w PSU for almost $60
Power supply is overpriced, you can easily get 500W ones for $40 or so

>>60850107
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9J9jkT

>>60850021
>Building
you ain't building shit. you're just ASSEMBLING heaps of junk from cheapest chink shit you can buy with your monthly allowance that your parents give you.

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>>60850491
>wasting that much money on a a meme PSU

>>60850491
Yes

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>>60850531

>>60850533
I like that its fully modular and all the cable are flat, it'll make cable management super easy.

>>60850531
>t. assblasted fag on throttling Fagbook that costs $2000

>>60850491
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cHmfgL
>brand shilling
please dont. there are other quality brands out there, such as G.skill and Seasonic.

>>60850686
I wouldn't tell everyone to buy Corsair, but I like being able to get good customer support whenever I need it.
That's also why I buy laptops from the Microsoft storee, when I need one. Those niggas are even more helpful than the cucks at the Apple stores.

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when will this cancer end

>>60850318
>1030
its shit the worst gpu you should even consider is a 470/570

>>60850686
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bnDCnn

here this is way better

>>60845580
Vega FE is late this month. Vega RX is late next month (July).

>>60850072
For newer games, no...? What gave you that idea?
1070 will only hit 144fps minimum in a handful of games maxed like Overwatch and R6 Siege. Very well optimized, non-demanding games.
1070 is overpowered for 60-100fps, and underpowered for 144fps. That's a big reason why it's not recommended. It's only a 25% gain over the 1060 6GB for +75% more money. Only reason to buy 1070s is for mining or maybe because you have a 1440p 60hz non-sync monitor already.

>>60850021
>1070 - if on sale/can't afford 1080
If someone can't afford a 1080 they probably don't have 1440p and probably should be getting a 1060 or RX570 anyway.
Anyway, 1070s aren't going on sale because they're being used for mining. They've been going up in price and purchase limits are getting put on many models.

>>60850836
>nvidia
>mining
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

no

>>60850841
being this dumb

>>60850852
>implying anyone used nvidia for mining since before GCN existed
wew

>>60850860
actually being this simultaneously imperious yet out of the loop

Any recommendations for a mini itx build? Money isn't a huge issue but space is what is the smallest case than can still do a full sized GPU?

>>60850866
if people bought nvidia for mining they would be out of stock just like amd, stop being a retard

>>60850870
>mini itx
stop cucking yourself, buy atx or micro atx like a normal person

>>60850881
imagine being as wrong as you are yet continuing to double down with an ever increasing degree of combativeness

Got everything on my pc set up, power the machine on, and..nothing.

None of the debug lights on my pc mate board are lighting up. Fans are all spinning, but nothing is going to my monitor.
Anyone know what I should do?

I've checked to make sure everything is well seated, and 2 different hdmi cables.

>>60850892
The thing is I need to conserve as much space as possible so the smaller the better

>>60850895
imaging just being a contrarian autist that makes no argument and has no proof or reasoning to back up their retarded claim

>>60850903
get a micro atx then and a fractal r4

>>60850905
imagine coming to a thread on 4chan.org in the year 2017 and spewing buzzwords from 2013 like some sort of geriatric hall wanderer

>>60850388
>>60850402
>>60850515
>>60850788
Better? If you can find me a good cheap mini atx tower that isn't plastic shit or colorful then post it.

>>60850768
what a fag for putting that high of a starting bid.
If you're going to auction it off hoping a miner will buy it, fine. But don't be
>"hur dur I want $150 more than I paid for this used card minimum for wasting my time trying to sell this to you"

Anyway. It won't end for at least 6+ months when the ice age further approaches. Ethereum value just keeps jumping higher.
$230 like 3 days ago. now $350. Making like 30x the electricity cost mining now. Even a 1070 pays itself back

>>60850923
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Versa-Computer-Chassis-CA-1D4-00S1NN-00/dp/B01CLIZ698/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497160632&sr=8-2&keywords=mATX
Literally put "mATX" on amazon to find a case that fits your autistic standars

>>60850922
not an argument

>>60850928
Isn't that like, at odds with basic economics? How can something remain so profitable and easily exploitable for so long? You will think thespring would dry up long before then due to everyone sucking the juice out of it.

>>60850923
fractal design r4

>>60850948
I've got an argument for you right here *unzips*

>>60850911
A fractle r4 is basically a regular case in trying to it take up a shitton of room

>>60850961
>Spending that much on a mATX

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>>60850881
There is higher stock of them. Nvidia has always sold more GPU and has higher production of them.
Have you not noticed that 1070s used to regularly go on sale for $310-$340 and now they're $365+ the past week?
When there is a sale, it's a limit of 1 on microcenter now, that's it.

Anyway, don't respond. I won't go back and forth arguing with an ignorant like you like the other anon was.

>>60850870
Just search for cases that support 310-350mm long GPU or whatever you need. There are fucking tons. My general recommendation woudl be the Silverstone ML07 which is bigger than some but has extra space for more drives, if you want to fit water cooling, etc.
>not putting 2 full sized 2 slot GPUs in a mITX. Thinking it's hard just to fit one in.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vfdjkT

This is for:
>gaymen
>VMs on Linux
>streaming
>recording
>music production
Already have a 1 TB WD HDD in good condition.

I'm waiting for Vega for the graphics card and would buy a 1060/70 (depending on sales) if they turn out to be shite.
I plan on upgrading the RAM to 32 gigs,
get additional NVMe storage
(that should work right? A M.2 + something on a PCIe slot? They won't block each other will they?)
and eventually replace my 1 TB HDD with something bigger.

What brands of power supply do you guys find reliable?

>>60850978
>fractal design
>shitton of room
are you retarded? itx is shit because you are cucking yourself into no expandablity and buying intel and should not be considered

>>60850991
its the best one on the market by far

>>60851001
>and now they're $365+ the past week?
because people that were going to buy 580's are now buying them
'
again nvidia is so shit for mining that no one with a brain even bothers

>>60851007
What does a mATX case have to be worth that much? Not the fans since I see a lot of ATX cases for $40 less with 3 fans.

>>60851018
Not that guy but there are some really really cheap low quality fans out there.

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>>60850961
Don't want to spend that much, although it looks nice. But if i wanted to spend that much, the Corsair Vengeance C70 seems really nice and rugged. If you have any criticism of the C70 would love to hear it.

Also, updated the list. Any better or should I change something? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/88DCnn

>>60851023
Check Corsair Spec Alpha Grey, 3 fans from corsair which are decent quality and the case itself looks good, all for $78

What's the biggest consumer video card ever made

>>60851001
I just looked up the ml07 and it's perfect thank you I can even set it down and place my monitor on top of it

>>60850957
6 months isn't really that long?
Take 1.5-2.5 months for your break even, then you only have a few months left to make actual profit.
Though, your hope is that Etherum will go up at least 10x higher, and then you'll make 50x what you originally paid instead of just 5x. 5x is still good, though, especially considering you have hardware to sell used when you're done or to mine whatever is very profitable next with ti.

Though most cryptocurrency are moving away from the mining thing, and using other means to dole out currency that wastes less electricity but in a way that's also less centralized.
Ethereum could potentially be the last highly profitable minable one, but who knows.

>>60851013
No one who was going to buy a 580 for gaming is going to get a 1070. They'd get the 1060 6GB.
It's MINERS buying the 1070s.
t. >>60851001
Only retards buy 1070s for gaming. A 1060 if you can't get a 570, or 1080, are better price/perf choices. You can get a 1080 for less than a 1070 a lot of the time. Only reason miners don't buy 1080s is that the 1070 is actually better for mining.

>>60851037
Probably the 32 pin, 3 slot, PowerColor Red Devil 295x2.

>>60850470
would anyone know, please?

>>60851027
Hey, I would recommend going with the g4560 over the g4600. And then go with a GTX 1050 ti over the 1050.

I recommend going with two sticks of 4GB ram over one stick, because you are essentially doubling your memory bandwidth by going dual-channel. This will benefit you in many programs.

If you want, I can pick these parts out for you and send you a link

>>60851018
because those cases arent quality, the r4 is

>>60851027
wow is that build shit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h94tYr

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>>60851066
sure anon, i would appreciate it

>>60851007
The r4 is the size of any other midtowwr case it takes up the same amount of room. As any other midtower and I buy Intel anyway amd has burnt me too many times

>>60851051
>miners
>buying nvidia

W O W are you dumb

>>60851074
What the hell do you mean by quality you goy?

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>>60851087
>cuck trying to convince people with more money than him to not drive up prices of the card he's saving for
k e k

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>>60851074
y-you to, appreciate your edited version though. Learning so any suggestions maybe helpful

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>>60851094
>implying i buy nvidia
im not a cuck like you sorry m8

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>>60851075

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PdybQV

Now consider that the Pentium G4560 will run you in the $70 range.

This motherboard also only has two memory slots but is all that is necessary for this build.

I am a big fan of hitachi's hard drives, they're good products.

Normal old RAM that will take advantage of dual channel opportunities

GTX 1050 ti is going to be a great pair with that g4560, minimal bottlenecking

>>60851133
>anything lower than a 570
literally going to be obsolete in a year just like the 750ti

>>60851152

Consider the price of the G4560 in relation to the RX 570.

>>60851162
consider that the 1050ti is a turd and the 570 is only 30 or so more

>>60851172
Do you know that 570/580s were all taken by miners right?

>>60851172

This is false. The GTX 1050 ti will perform slightly under the RX 570 for $60 less and will use less electricity.

>>60851129
I only use AMD for my main computers.

It made more sense for me to buy 1070s for mining with how valuable it is to mine as much as possible, but also to have less electricity usage for as it approaches the ice age to keep mining a little bit longer.
I do have $5k more of GPUs I've contacted a distributor about, but won't have word until Monday.

I can get RX570s for cheaper, ~$220-$230, but the 1070s should resell much better and easier on top of mining 20% faster than those models and at over 20% better hash/watt.

>>60851172
>>60851184
If you want to make calls, you can probably find a local distributor or someone who has contact with a distributor that can get you RX570s at a still reasonable price. Probably not $170-$185 though...

>>60851133
Question. How do you get the black layout on PCPP?
beyond that, add a PNY SSD for around $50 for a boot drive

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>>60851184
>40% worse performance on average
>slightly
>40% slower
>slightly
>BUT 2X MORE MONEY FOR 25% BETTER PERFORMANCE FROM THE 1070 IS TOTALLY WORTH IT BUY GREEN!!!!!!!
lmfao

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>>60851182
then watch newegg, i got my 290x when they were all being sold out so you can too

>>60851184
>slightly
you call this slightly, i call it cutting your performance in half

>power
HOLLY SHIT THE MORE POWERFULL GPU COMSUMES MORE POWER STOP THE PRESSES, also stop burning gas for energy then pajeet

>>60851221
I'm using a chrome extension that makes everything dark. give me a bit and I'll fix that for you. however, I would recommend doing a single HDD or a single SSD. I can throw $50 at the current HDD and get a larger SSD

>>60851233
>I can throw $50 at the current HDD and get a larger SSD
That works. You could get a decent 250 GB SSD for about $90, and add in an HDD later on.

>>60851233
what extension?

>>60851240

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XLzn4C

>>60851241
"Dark Reader"

>>60851221
Remove backlight from your monitor.

>>60851223
>2x more money for gtx 1070
>gtx 1070 is about $360
>rx570 is $400+ because cryptotards
next time, make an argument that pertains to the current time period, idiot. had they not been sold out or selling for $400+, many people would have bought 570s and 580s instead

>>60851074
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h94tYr
if it wasn't for Superblitz, would getting the G4600 be better considering its just a little more expensive on other sites like amazon?

>>60851300

g4560 all the way. the 100mhz gain isn't worth it.

>>60851282
>$365 for a mini ITX low clocked single fan model
>All the decent models are $395+
Nice cherry picking, fag.

Also, that wasn't the fucking argument.
The fucktard >>60851184 said the RX570 was only "slightly" faster and that it wasn't worth $60 more (even though it's hard to find them for $60 more, yes, but that wasn't the argument you stupid fuck).

>>60851300
G4600 if you need the better iGPU.
G4560 if you're using a dGPU.
i3-7100 or g4620 if they are on sale so they're only like $10-$15 more.
Very simple.

>>60851311
>cherrypicking
honestly, i guessed. plus, a 1070 is a 1070. and yes i know its not part of the argument, but the fact that there are no 570/80s avaliable for under $400, that makes your argument invalid in this current time period. maybe in 3 months, you'll be right. its just a matter of circumstances.

>>60850531
just because you dont know how to build a computer doesnt mean other people dont. its actually quite easy. you should give it a try. its much better than the prebuilt youre currently using

>>60850021
You're forgetting that the RX580 costs $600-800 scalped.

Before assembling in the case, does anyone make sure that all the parts work and install windows before assembling everything into the case?

>>60851397
>>1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX400/500s)
No they didn't/
>1060 - Generally outperformed by the RX 580 and GSync costs more; consider if AMD is not an option (ie CUDA/miners buying all RX400/500s)

>>60851414
only retarded faggots use windows. if youre just going to run a prebuilt operating system, you might as well run a prebuilt computer. building computers is for those who like to customize their computers, which you just can not do with windows

>>60851456
what the fuck are you even trying to say?

What do you guys use to remove dust inside the case?

>>60851354
K well your guess sucked.
An RX570 is ~60% faster than the 1050Ti on average. Even more so if you just go by games from the past 2 years, which imo you should since those are the ones that are demanding and you want better hardware for newer rather than older games since it still runs older ones fine.

>>60851494
He's saying it's still the best to get if you can get one cheap.
Some people still have them at local stores or warehousese.
Fucking retard, you really are so dumb you can't understand that?

>>60851510
Compressed air and a brush

>>60851510
Get a non-shit case with dust filters.
If you need to clean it it out, paper towels with alcohol and then final pass with microfiber to get rid of the towel fibers.

>>60851489
>t. loonix retard uses prebuilt backdoored hardware
Please unplug the ethernet cable from your cheeto-encrusted and cum-stained chinkpad, hook it around your gigabit internet satelite dish on your roof, tie the other end around your neck while on the roof, and jump.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qfsbQV I really want to get the most powerful gaming computer possible with a 2500 ish budget. I live in Canada :(

>>60851510
make sure you take your computer outside when you blow it out. or else you're just blowing that shit back into your living space.

Reminder that AMD listens to what customers want. We wanted more cores at a cheaper price than intel while offering better multi-threaded performance. We got Ryzen.
Reminder that AMD made Freesync Open-source so you could have a better gaming experience without paying through the nose for it

Where are the quake machine builds?

My nephew is an aspiring youtuber/in college for game design, so I thought I might surprise him with a decent build. How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MMfMYr

>>60851706
don't get gigabyte mobo. change either to asrock pro4 or something from msi.
you'd be more than fine with just 650w psu.
the rest is ok.

>>60851706
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wHfMYr I can do better if you dont want 32 GiB of RAM

>>60851798
no need for x370 motherboard. go with cheaper b350 (asrock, msi).
change psu to supernova g2. 10$ more but it's much nicer. evga b3 is more of a budget pick.
chances are you won't be able to get rx580 for quite some time.

>>60851809
wd isn't better than seagate. stop.

>>60851809
I heard that the stock fans for the ryzen were pretty good, is it better to get the noctua ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/96c6Z8

First time building a pc. I'll mainly use it for gaming (1080p) and photoshop. Any improvements I can make? Max budget is $1,100.

>>60851835
The X370 is for upgradeability. That said, I should probably change the PSU anyways so it can support dual GPU's.
How's this then? Should still support crossfire.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9NnTgL

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>>60851835
>wd isnt bettter than seagate
Explain

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>>60851846
they are enough for light oc and comparable to budget ~30$ coolers like 212 evo, but noctua coolers are superior. in this case IMO it's not paying so much for that extra 0.2GHz OC.

i wouldn't go with that build. you won't ever need 32gb of ram unless you do serious editing work or something.

>>60851865
crossfire is a literal meme nowadays. it's not worth it since most of the games/software doesn't support it. it's always better to go for single, more powerful gpu. also >gigabyte mobo.

>>60851865
looks good.

>>60851868
>muh IMG_xxxx.jpg
at least do some research and post most recent stats. protip: they don't mean shit for normal customers.

>>60851850
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KWG3Gf
I know that 3TB drive looks enticing, but those are all refurbed server drives. They can have no usage, or years. My brother bought 2 and they both failed on him. You'll never know because they cleared all the data off of them. Stick with a WD drive.

>>60851906
>looks good
was meant for >>60851850

>>60851929
>downgrading hdd from 3tb to 1tb
enjoy running out of space. Toshiba P300 3TB is a good pick.

>>60851868
Not him but my 1tb wd failed after 3 months while several seagate drives I onw work without problems, I have seagate external drive from like 2005 and it still works

>>60851716
Reminder that AMD is out of stock

>>60852216
Yeah, their GPUs are so popular they are constantly out of stock, pretty unfortunate

how does ryzen compare to i7 for gaming?

looking to build a new pc with a 1060 and other standard parts

>>60852231
Except they are popular with the wrong crowd.

>>60852308
>1060
i7 perform better at gamign, but you're gonna get GPU bottlenecked way before CPU matters

What does /g/ think of KFA/Galax cards?

Which monitor on the market is the most healthiest monitor regarding eye sight and glare?

>NVMe aren't for faster OS boot. They're primarily for productivity/scratch disk/VMs

Can someone explain how much performance increase there is for these kinds of workloads vs using some SATA SSD instead and the price premium? Thinking about VM use mainly.

And who would seriously use NAND SSDs as scratch disks? That's what getting a ton of ram and using tmpfs/ramdisks are for.

I bought a Samsung C24FG7 (24 inch, 1ms, 144hz freesync, VA panel with excellent colors) for £220 to replace my 27 inch wall mounted viewsonic monitor (75hz, freesync TN panel, 2ms, not so great colors or viewing angles but its ok still) but then I had a thought?
Why mess with something that works just fine? That 27 inch perfectly looms over the bed and just above sitting eye level so I could use it for web browsing, text chat and movie watching in bed just fine. And I can have the new monitor on my desk with its adjustable arm. (So its almost like two wall mounted adjustable monitors) for playing PC games on.

So I moved my PC tower back under the desk (I clean it out every month so its ok to do so honestly), and made space for this new monitor.

When it comes this afternoon I'll be able to see how comfortable a dual monitor setup is for me.

so I got a 770 GTX for 60€ for my main computer, now I need some GPU for a old core2duo machine to play basic stuff

Which extremely yet decent GPU should I look for?

I found a 550ti for 20€ but AMD might have better options?

>>60852751
If you're wondering why neither monitor is over 1080p, its deliberate. Why have a higher resolution for these small-ish monitors? I'd rather have a monitor with better color, minimal lag, and freesync, and besides, I only have a 390x too, so I'd rather have overkill 1080p for several years than struggling 2k/4k.

(Next upgrade is gong to be whatever high end AMD card comes out next that actually warrants upgrading. 580 isnt good enough to warrant ditching my perfectly solid 390x anytime soon)

which gpu is going to work better with a Ryzen 1600?
a gtx 1050 (non-Ti) 2GB
or a rx 560 4GB
when the price is the same for both?

>>60852945
The RX 560

Chirping/whistling sound from PSU when PC is under full loadand my Pc is 2 months old. What do?

Anyone use Win10 LTSB?
If you didn't get it officially with license etc., is there any downside to just downloading the trial and continuing to use it past the 90 limit, despite the prompts?

>>60852986
>2 months old.
RMA it.

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My current graphics card is Radeon HD 7800 and it has worked pretty fine up until now, however I'm starting to feel that there are some games that I just hit 60 fps in. I feel like it might be because they are poorly optimized (Rust, PlayerUnknowns Battleground etc) but it's probably still time for an upgrade.

I'm pretty poor but can save up a little money. Is it a good idea to get a used graphics card or is that a meme? I'm looking at some used 980ti cards that don't seem that expensive

pls help thanks

>>60853486
Used cards are generally a bad idea because you have no idea what conditions they operated under and warranty issues.

>>60853388
But what is happening though?

>>60853557
Could be plenty of things without physically opening up the PSU itself we don't know. Might be something major like failing components or something benign like a bad fan ball bearing.

>>60853486
Used is alright as long as you have a transferable warranty or it's a refurbished or something that you can return.

The problem with used GPUs right now is that AMD used cards are going for absurd amounts. Even the 280X or 370X can go for a lot.
And then you have Nvidia used GPUs which... >>60851225 <- picture related.
Nvidia builds planned obsolescence into their cards so they can't play newer games at higher settings. Particularly not with high VRAM usage.

>>60852328
GPU bottlenecked situations are better than CPU bottlenecked ones. You'll always be one or the other.

>>60852634
With heavy VM use, the increased i/o that's being split up and slowed by io-v can help. Assuming you have good NVMe virtualization as some only supports SATA.

.>>60852751
>>60852798
24" is beyond optimal for 1080p. That's very low DPI. Maybe if you have it far from you, I guess.

17"-21.5" is the usual 1080p screen size.

>>60850899
Any help?
I've tried everything I've found. Using one stick of ram, unplugging and holding the power button, still not getting a signal to the monitor.
Fans on the gpu are spinning so it's getting power.

>>60853905
i guess the monitor is dead?

My first setup which is for
>gayming
>after effects
>fl studio
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wF8RXH

I'm just conflicted on which graphics card to get. The 1050 seems good for my budget but I don't want to get something that'll be under performing in a few years.

>>60850021
What's the best Air Cooler for Ryzen 1800X if I don't want to fuck with AIO?

No noctua memes lads, genuine silent but powerful air coolers, please

Please, carefully look over each part and make sure I chose right,
My budget is around the $1,500 mark.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/#view=YxmvK8

Which mITX cases can house a 1070? Are there any small form-factor 1070s?

>>60854585
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8
picked different mobo
How am I doing?

>>60853929
Works fine, hooked my laptop up to it.

>>60854629
You should get an aftermarket cooler and overclock to make sure you're getting the highest FPS possible out of your CPU

rate my build
waiting for the parts to arrive just now
Ryzen 7 1700X + MSI Core Frozr L - 120mm
ROG Crosshair VI Hero
G.Skill Trident Z 32gb 3200
Kingston HyperX FURY 240GB SSD
Seagate 2TB 2,5"(6,35cm) 5400 128MB (i just pressed randomly desu hentai)
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 80 Plus Gold, modular - 550W
NZXT SOURCE 340 Midi-Tower Window - white

already have a screen and keyboard+mouse

>>60855187
whats your monitor

>>60855288
some 2 year old HD one for around 260€
i forgot what it is because i'm letting my friend use it for a year now cause i'm on a laptop

>>60855187
Thats an overkill for plain ol 1080p monitor

>>60850768

Why is it so expensive? I have that card and bought it for like 250 a few months ago when it was on sale.

>>60854863
Pls look closely at my build. Is everyone part good? And I don't think I'll need to oc

>>60854624
Gigabyte GTX 1070 Mini ITX (169mm)
MSI GTX 1070 Aero ITX (175mm)
Zotac GTX 1070 Mini (210mm)

Those three should fit in pretty much any mITX-cases

>>60855474
what monitor would you recommend?

also not sure if i should have picked the evga 1080 over the msi
is there a noticable difference?

>>60854624
Which ones are you looking at? Cases like the Phanteks EVOLV can take full length cards but are huge. Jonsbo U1+ and similar mini towers need shorter ones. All Nividia chips are available in short cards except for the 1080(ti) ones.

>>60855714
you're not gonna reach 144hz with a 3.2 - 3.7 GHz CPU
i already looked closely at your build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

Give me critiques. Opinions. Changes I should make?
Also, how do I get internet. Which ethernet cable should I use?
How should I get windows 10?

>>60856155
not going to reach 144hz in what? Im not playing anything crazy

>>60856240
>Which ethernet cable should I use?
any will do the job.
you don't need that many case fans, not to say the more you have the easier it is to fuck up the airflow. Get two 140mm ones instead.

>>60856279
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8 How about these fans?

Ok I will get an ethernet. I dont have a router near me but i got a wall jack near me. hope it works.

>>60854401
help

>>60850021
Is water cooling still worth looking at? or just a gimmick now, or at least high-end?

I'm looking at building a system which can have Linux host OS and do GPU passthrough to Windows for gaming. So thinking I'd want more than 4 cores, 16Gb RAM minimum. Onboard GPU preferable.

>>60856276
what exactly are you playing?
You're not gonna reach a constant 144hz on a CPU with a frequency of 3.2 (3.7 boost), that's too low (unless you're talking about e-sports games but in that case the GTX 1070 is way overkill for that)

>>60856316
its kind of a meme. water cooling is generally quieter, but you aren't maintaining temperatures that you can't hit with just MOAR AIR and a beefy heat sink

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why is this LG monitor so good compared to others at the same price range?

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-24MP59G-P-gaming-monitor

> $169
> IPS
> 1ms response
> 75Hz
what's the catch here?

>>60856375
I guess most of my current noise comes from my hard drives, though my GPU (R7 280) does get pretty loud when it's gaming hard.

But if it's a bit memey, then I can dedicate more funds to other components. Is there a decent Intel 6-8 core CPU? Or is it all top end stuff and better go Ryzen?

>>60856391
also
> freesync

>>60850093
Use windows loader

>>60856362
What am I going to be playing? I dont really know... I want to replay a bunch of games I played on console, such as Dragons Dogma, Dark Souls series, TES series, Fallout series...
Maybe replay Terraria with a friend. Play some indie games here and there. Maybe try out an online FPS like Overwatch or try a MOBA which I doubt I'll like...

I already own a 60 Benq 24" monitor but thought 144hz would be worth it for me. Am I making a mistake?

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https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Lr9TgL
How's this build for playing in 2k? Is there anything cheaper? I'd like to cut some money for a mechanical keyboard, but that can wait. I'm from Spain if that helps.

>>60856309
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8
>it`s you again

looks good.
Just remember to consider a better cooler for the 1600 in order to OC it down the road.
In the meantime the stock cooler is great

>>60856522
cambia el i5 por
AMD Ryzen R5 1600. Es mejor en todos los sentidos y el enfirador de CPU de stock es excelente. Solo recuerda emparejarlo con RAM rápida, de preferencia de alrededor de 3000MHz

>>60856552
the anon above said that I wont be getting 144hz with that CPU?
But I will consider it. Not sure if I need to OC ever. Makes me kinda reconsider getting a 144hz monitor. Maybe I should stick with 60-75hz?
>>60856445

>>60856445
TES & Fallout won't go above 60hz as the engine isn't made for it (you can force it but it will fuck up the physic)
144hz just for trying it out seems pretty meh but it's your money

>>60856570
Anything above 90fps is a meme in my opinion. for me it`s the point of diminishing returns. Unless you play CS:GO professionally or something.

witht the 1600 you might be hitting 120-125 fps at 1080p....so not much to worry about

>>60856589
dammit. youre right... its not like a need 144hz for anything, and it'd be a waste if I dont utilize it. I have never really been into multiplayer games but Im afraid if I do play them in the future I will miss out.
Then again I feel like I've been playing vidya less and less lately...
I just want a PC for my bedroom instead of using my phone.

Can you edit my list to make it a good 60hz build?
Should I stick with all the same parts and just take away the monitor?

Any thoughts on a budget TV to use as a second monitor? It's only for playing games and watching movies on but I'm on a tight budget. Under £300 would be idea

>>60856631
take away monitor and downgrade the graphics card to an RX 580 / GTX 1060

>>60856645
I do already have the 24" 60hz benq monitor...
Ok I found a 1060, want to have a lot of my parts in the tower be black and white. How is this?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137040&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>>60856645
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27MP59G-P-gaming-monitor

Also with this 27" IPS monitor be good to use as my main one and use the 24" TN as my secondary?

>>60856569
Me quedo entonces con el cooler que viene de serie y quito el que he añadido, ¿no?
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/M48d2R

>>60856522
updated you build. i5 and your motherboard are bad value, and the RAM was too slow. Swapped the WD hard drive for the 3tb Toshiba which is just better value.
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/VXsYKZ
100€ saved which you can now use for a legit Windows 10 key. Or more Hardware.

>1600x & proper cooler is about 40 yuropcoins more than 1600
>on the other hand I'll probably replace the stock cooler some day anyways so the difference between 1600x and 1600 is only 15 euros
>but I could use the stock one for now and wait if i'll get a new case with room for bigger cooler or if better coolers appear
What would you do, /g/? Get the 1600x and a cooler or 1600 with stock cooler and add a better one down the line?

I'm thinking about 1600x, 40 yuropcoins is not a big deal and I'd like to keep the build as quiet as possible.

>>60856640
TV's usually have a noticeable input lag, and mouselook makes that look much worse. You can reduce that by enabling "game mode" or whatever if your TV has one. Also they suffer from

And keep in mind that if you get a hugeass tv with full hd resolution it'll look like shit up close thanks to low pixel density. TV's are designed for viewing distances of 2-3 metres while monitors are for 1 metre or closer.

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>>60856700
or would 27" IPS 1080p panel look too stretched?
I want a main monitor to get with my 24" TN panel now.
I wont be doing 144hz since i doubt I will utitilize it...

>>60856738
>https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/M48d2R
Correcto.
Se ve muy bien, anon.
¿Solo la quires para videojuegos? , ¿harás algo de trabajo ?

No olvides conseguir un par de ventiladores para el gabinete, toma en cuenta los ya incluidos.

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>>60856783
wew totally overlooked that the motherboard has no price in Spain. So you don't save money but still have a better system for the same money:
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/GkLkr7

Are 2 used 980ti the cheapest way to get close to 60fps at 4k? Or would I be better off with a 1080?
Trying to keep the budget around 500 or so

>>60856795
I know that, which is why I have a monitor for up close shit but have a TV for sitting back on the sofa and watching films or playing games like Dark souls.

>>60856795
>Also they suffer from
...shitty "image enchancement" settings and poor scaling at non-native resolutions.

>>60856861
Oh alright, then it doesn't sound so bad. If you don't mind it looking bad from close and aren't playing competitive shooters then it's an viable option.

>>60856852
I'd definitely recommend 1080 over 2x980ti. SLI doesn't work that well and Nvidia will soon drop active driver support for 900 series.

>>60856810
Sí, lo usaré para jugar solamente. Gracias por la ayuda, hace como cinco años desde que monté mi primer ordenador y me he quedado un poco desfasado.
>>60856812
That hardrive and the power supply seem pretty good for their price, I'll take them.

>>60856852
>>60856957
Also, im tires of waiting for Vega honestly. Plus I don't think compared to a 980ti sli they're gonna beat it on value. I've run cfx before but never sli, it isn't that bad in the games I want to play but I would like to stay with one card. I'll have to consider it, maybe I will just wait

>>60850021
So I have the following build so far made for gaming at 1080p 60fps in games like dark souls 3, battlefield 1, the witcher: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wF8RXH
I'm just confused as to which graphics card I should pick (I'm going for the cheapest price) since I was originally planning on getting the rx 570 but that's completely out of stock everywhere. People have been suggesting either the 1050ti or the 1060 so I'd just like some further input. Thanks in advance

>>60850021
Will a case like this protect my PC from NSA botnet?

Dont need much of an in depth rating, just a quick feedback on my first build. Was going to put in an rx 580 but you know... Mainly for gaming maybe some multimedia/editing.

Forgot the link ^ https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/c41f2822190de8df525d1672ccc5e389d63f1903e1232d12b6f

I did a clean install of windows and now it won't activate with my Kinguin key, says the key belongs to a different computer.

Did I fuck up?

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>>60850021
im putting together a build right now and i want to put in a gtx 1070 with a ryzen 5 1600x. one of by friends is saying i should get an i5 7600k and an asus strix 1060 instead; is he right?

>>60857484
your """friend""" is a stupid faggot.

>>60857501
so keep my original build plan?

>>60850021
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3RK82R
Is this PSU too much for this build? I read somewhere that power supplies are their most efficient at 40% capacity.

>>60857484
to be clear he suggested a 9bgps 1060, if that makes a difference

>>60857484
>saying i should get an i5 7600k
your friend is a homo, suggesting a $220 4 cores 4 thread CPU that doesn't come with a cooler in 2017 is stupid
that was fine in the past but now it's very retarded

>>60857272
you might wanna add a second hard drive if you have enough money to do so as editing will bring any HDD to their knees or close

>>60857080
What you heard is pretty much on point. You're not going to do 1080p60fps on a 1050ti without dropping a lot of settings though, so RX 570 minimum.

>>60857696
I'll get an external propably
You like the build expect that?

>>60857717
rx 570 is unavailable pretty much everywhere to my knowledge

>>60857555
It's just a bit over what you need. It's a good PSU. I would keep it.

Yeah, you can see the efficiency charts on the manufacturers website

I'm on a tight budget but I still want to build a PC with at least a Ryzen 1600 and RX580 because I'm working in Premiere, Lightroom, DAWs and some programming as well as playing moderate amounts of vidya, because right now I'm using a Thinkpad X230 so basically any quad core desktop PC will be better. And I know that Intel is better for budget builds because you can just use the iGPU on the G4560 and grab a GPU later but I want to go Ryzen because the upgrade path is better with the 6 and 8 core CPUs.

Is it better to buy the PC in parts and try to look for deals or should I just wait until the Ryzen 3 is released, grab something like the GT 1030 and then upgrade when Vega and Zen 2 is released?

>>60857732
yes

>>60857822
try to look for deals on case, ram, hard drive and PSU right now as you'll need those regardless
i wouldn't particularly recommend getting a budget CPU because you'd be locking yourself out of good hardware for your usage

>>60857822
I would recommend getting the R5 1600 plus a 1060. you can upgrade later and you will enjoy the full 6 cores 12 threads. it should last you a fair amount of years.

the obvious recommendation is build it yourself.

>>60857717
Would you recommend the rx 580

>>60857972
...if you can find one

>>60858015
so I should just go for the 1060 (6GB) then?

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Should I sell my XFX GTR RX 480 for £300+ (bought for £180) and hang back with my old R9 270 until Vega comes out? Or will Vega be even more expensive and not worth it for 1440p 144 Hz over the RX 480?

Quick question. I'm getting a 1080p IPS panel. Should I get a 24" or 27" for gaming at around 60hz?

What should i be looking for if i use 2 monitors one at 120hz and i simply want to upgrade my current computer.
I already have hard drives and a case. i also have a 10 year old PSU, should i be upgrading that?
My budget is around 1k, i was thinking ryzen 1700 and 1070,. Though seems that the 1070 is bad value? Also, I do want it to be somewhat overpowered.
Thanks.

>>60858093
yeah
you could also sell it and buy a GTX 1060 (which is pretty much the same) and still make a profit

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>>60850021
>R5 1600 - best value for higher fps gaming & mixed usage
Wow, I just found out all the Ryzen 5 chips have 2-core Turbo boost, unlike the Ryzen 7 which only have 1-core tubo.

That puts things in another light for people who don't overclock. the Ryzen 5 might very well be objectively superior for their needs in lightly threaded games.

>>60858093
If you can make money out of it, I say go for it.
If your R9 270 is good enough, go for it.

If you need to card for your games, just keep it.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NFmGgL

It says there's an error between the x99 chipset motherboard and the Broadwell-E cpu, but I read online that ASUS now supports Broadwell-E cpus. Is this true or will this build fuck me up?

Best am4 microATX board? I'm also going to be overclocking using 3200mhz if that matters.

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Building my first PC

Any advice would be appreciated

cheaper components to save money?

I want to play games at 3440 x 1440p at over 60 fps

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bsMpkT

>>60858204
if you're lucky it'll come with a bios new enough to support it
otherwise you're fucked
also what the fuck are you doing? buying a 6800k? what for?

>>60858204
>buying x99 when x299 and threadripper are right around the corner

>>60858272
>100hz screen
>7700k
You're aware that you don't need this housefire of a CPU to reach 100hz right?
>RGB RAM
>kraken x62
Enjoy your 3 - 4°C cooler than $70 air coolers i guess
the rest is good

>>60858272
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bsMpkT
If you are aiming for 60fps switch the cpu to a 1600 or 1700, cheaper mobo and cooler.

>>60857902
I don't really care as long as it performs better than my Thinkpad X230 since I'm just a hobbyist, which the Ryzen 3 most likely will.

>>60858272
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vxWZ7h

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TMmGgL
will it boot?
i'm looking for ways to save a bit more, my budget is quite tight so i was thinking to maybe go with some cheaper mobo, what do you think?
location is central europe fwiw
and i don't really game that much, it's going to serve as a workstation more, programming, compiling stuff with gcc, etc.

>>60858142
hello?

>>60858142
pick the one which suits you better
tell us what screen you've got right now so we can tell you if it's going to be a big change in terms of pixels per inch
many believe 1080p at 27" is stretching it, the pixels will be quite big, but it depends greatly on what you're used to seeing

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>>60858298
What's a better cpu
>>60858348
>>60858383
Why is this better?

I thought AMD is meant to be shit

>>60858447
>What's a better cpu
Depends on usage
The 6800k would generally be picked when the workload scales with cores, in which even a $220 R5 1600 beats it

>>60858463
I just shitpost, watch films and play games

>>60858447
>I thought AMD is meant to be shit
Was, isn't anymore.

>>60858393
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nk8d2R

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>>60858293
I gotta upgrade now though familia, it runs GTA V for 10 minutes before it crashes

>>60858273
The power!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/crWZ7h

USA, Budget 2700usd max(pc + peripherials and monitor)
Gonna be used for muh gaymz ( 1440/144hz or 1440 ultrawide 100hz)

Mainly play Titanfall 2, want to try upcoming games like LOTR:Shadow of war and Battlefront 2

Already have the case and fans, I cant decide between a 27" 1440 monitor or go for a 34" uw

>>60858447
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vxWZ7h
>AMD was shit
Not with Ryzen.
>why is this better
Because cheaper cooler with equivalent cooling, better CPU, and a better power supply (550W isnt enough)

>>60858483
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TMmGgL
that looks more expensive tbqh

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>>60858483
>gigabyte motherboard

>>60858537
I looked up some benchmarks and it seems 6700k/7700k is considerably better fps than R1700x tho

>>60858540
Oops, looking at Britain prices. Why are you ordering from American version of the site if you're in Europe?
>>60858547
>whats wrong with it

>>60858561
7700K has higher fps, but Ryzen has steadier fps. i7 has lag spikes because the less cores. Plus you can OC for a bit more performance.

>>60858425
im used to using a 60hz tn 24inch panel.
should i just get a 24inch ips 60hz or 75hz?

>>60858474
You don't a $300+ CPU to do such things
An R5 1600 would do that extremely well and still be great at things like video encoding or VM if for some random fucking reason you were to start doing that

>>60858527
If you wanna reach 144hz then you're gonna have to both overclock & get better RAM
otherwise for 100hz it's good
750w is overkill by the way, also why the caviar black hard drives?

>>60858537
>550W isn't enough
>implying the whole build is going to take more than 400w even after oc'ing both gpu and cpu
protip: it won't

Are there any B350 motherboards that support Crossfire or SLI that doesn't cost over $120?

>>60858594
>>60858608


I dunno m8

I'm looking at benchmarks where a 7700k gets 90 fps at 3440 x 1440 and a Ryzen only gets 60 fps

>>60858563
pcpartpicker doesn't have poland anyways so i left it at the burger version
also the ssd, ram and gpu will be different because i'll be choosing whichever is the cheapest and not shit at the same moment
so i guess my original post was more about the cpu+mobo+psu come to think of it
and the gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 appears to have crappy vrms and stuff

>>60858615
none existent
sli support starts from x370

>>60858626
>and the gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 appears to have crappy vrms and stuff
No that's the best of the boards.

It's fairly priced, just 115 bucks.
Has some of the best audio there is.
Has crossfire.
Has M.2 slot.

>>60858615
>>60858650
See>>60858674

This one:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350-Gaming-3-rev-10#kf

>>60858625
That's a GPU bottleneck taken out of context. There's no way at all a 7700k is weak enough to reach only 90FPS in whatever game you play and same goes for a Ryzen CPU. No idea how the hell they benchmark, but higher GPU res puts just as much load on the CPU as lower res, the CPU isn't working more and in fact generally less considering how much higher res lowers FPS

>>60858688
it doesn't support sli

>>60858696
I thought you meant crossfire.

>>60858707
I need any cheap motherboard that supports lane splitting from the CPU, hence the SLI and Crossfire requirement.

>>60858425
anon is ips worth or should i just use my 24inch tn 60hz

>>60858707
well, i thought each and every b350 supports crossfire anyways

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I've spent 1200 buck over the last month trying to get my build to work. I've finally gotten everything (except my cpu cooler) and my fucking computer wont post.
No beeps, no screen, but all my fans kick up like normal.
Idk what the fuck I'm doing wrong. I should have just stuck to being a console peasant.
Pic related. It's my mess.

>>60858730
>X99
Lel you dun goofd

>>60858716
personally i don't like ips at all but that's me
at 27" i'd be looking at 1440p rather than 1080p because yeah, 1080p on 27" is objectively not good
and for the frequency - 60 hz is fine by me, so i'd go for a quality 60-75hz freesync-capable panel rather than some 120hz+ screens

but me is me and you are a different person, it's not really possible to answer questions like this in a useful manner because one's preferences are highly subjective
just go to some actual physical store and have a look at the displays

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>>60858625
>>60858561
The other Anon is right.
https://youtu.be/3VvwWTQKCZs?t=399
The 6 core and 8 core Ryzen chips give you consistently superior minimum frame rates.

>>60858730
Check if your CPU pins are bent mate, I had one like that that wouldn't post and it seemed like my CPU pins were somehow bent

>>60858746
That's the feeling I'm getting. I can unplug everything from the x99 except the 24 pin and the other 8 pin and I still don't get any beeps or anything. I think it's trash. Idk this fucking blows though.

>>60858813
Alright I'll give that a shot.

>>60858825
can't you replace faulty hardware in the US?

>>60858626
poland? i can finally be relevant.
for case: pick something from SilentiumPC like Gladius M35 or Aquarius X70W if you want a window. 300 PLN should be absolute max.

for ssd: GOODRAM Iridium Pro 240GB. performance on par with 850 EVO but it's a MLC NAND which means it'll last longer

supernova psus are overpriced here. you could pick something from SilentiumPC again or corsair cx450m, Enermax MaxPro 80+ 600W is another good choice. basically don't spend more than 300 PLN.

for mobo i'd go with asrock ab350m pro4. it has better VRM and is actually cheaper than gigabyte shit.

if you ever need a cooler then pick SilentiumPC Fortis 3. it's better than any ~40$ cooler in burgerland.

generally local manufactuers like SilentiumPC and GOODRAM have the same (if not better) quality components than more popular brands but are cheaper here.

if you can order from amazon there's 10€ discount till tomorrow. you could get r5 1600 for about 100 PLN cheaper than anywhere in poland. remember to check sites like cenowarka.pl

>>60858718
that's x307

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>>60858874
Different Anon. Sometimes I use geizhals.eu and they list some really cheap DDR4 memory from that goodram brand.

I never heard about them much, since I usually shop from North America.
Are they trustworthy brand?

>>60858874
that amazon deal is amazing! i wouldn't even get to know, and the promo ends tomorrow
I think I'm gonna pull the trigger
there's also this LATO17 discount code which supposedly reduces the price by 10€ - really nice
thanks anon, the cheapest i could find it here was 937 pln, i'll ned to sign up to amazon asap

>>60856783
>Legit Winblow 10 Key

kek'd

He's better off getting Window 7 which even provides better performance compared to that pile of shit called Windows 10.

>>60859071
>>60858874
German amazon? Is it actually cheaper though?

I seems to me it's listed as 214 Euro, which is 239 USD. That isn't exactly cheap.

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What's a good motherboard to replace my dying Asus Z87 memeboard with?

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>>60858813
I'm not sure how you're supposed to tell if your pins are bent but I think mine are fine.
>>60858855
Yeah I've actually got 90 days to get my money back So i'm thinking I might just do that.

>>60859178
I didn't even have my cpu in and the mobo still didn't give me any beeps.

Im getting the last part in the mail soon hopefully but before i start putting it together, do i need fans?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/RickyMorter/saved/ZDgf7P

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>Asking some questions and they can't communicate back
Methinks we have some Polish shill bots.

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>>60859035
yes they are (pretty popular here). i didn't think they actually sold stuff to other countries.
pic related is my 240gb ssd that i paid ~62€ for last year before price fixing.

>>60859071
yeah that LATO17 code is the promo i was talking about.

>>60859111
it only applies to poland. as the other anon said, the cheapest ryzen r5 1600 here is 937 PLN.
from amazon.de with promo code it should cost ~850 PLN.
in usa you already have everything 20% cheaper then here.

>>60859319
no need for extra fans, the case already includes two ugly ones

Can someone guide me please?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vV99d6

>>60859353
Thanks, i wasnt sure if those were enough

>>60859362
>Can someone guide me please?
This CPU needs a cooler
Why are you getting this CPU & GPU? 144hz screen?

Will 8gb of ram be fine for now? I plan to get more later.

>>60859347
>~850 PLN
That is pretty cheap, considering you have the EU tax.

>>60859362
you want 7700k instead of 6700k.
you need a cpu cooler.
get faster memory (3000mhz or 3200mhz)
the rest is ok though you could get a cheaper z270 mobo.

obligatory: have you heard of ryzen 1700?

>>60859399
yes. only a handful of games use more than that and they're still playable with 8gb.

>>60859393
i have one, and yes 144hz
>>60859431
I have heard of the 1700 and i cant tell what is a meme and what is real. The only consistent thing I've heard is that the 7700k runs hot and has stuttering problems, but better overall performance.

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Damnit, I keep getting confused by the internet.
Some sources claim the Ryzen 7 chips don't have 2-core Turbo boost.

But this AMD chart implies that Ryzen 7 does have 2-core boost. And not just single core boost.
Can someone confirm this?
"Number of active cores > 2"

>>60859538
>but better overall performance
Only or some games, and in low resolution.

In real resolutions, they run pretty much equal. but the Ryzen 7 chips will give you better minimum framerates. That's what the other Anons are trying to tell you.

>>60859575
Ah, that makes sense. Its also slightly cheaper so i might as well just go with a 1700 instead.
I'm not sure on the motherboards. I will probably never use more than one GPU so should i just go with a b350?

>>60859703
Not just that, but outside of games the Ryzen 7 chip exceeds in lots of things like .webm encodes and 7zip compression/decompression.

>should i just go with a b350?
That's what I did. I think most brands are great, but if you go for Gigabyte, this one in particular has really good features for the price>>60858674

Looking for a Mobo to support 2-3 RX 580s without any risers (for dedicated mining; UK-based) inside a full tower case.
Should I go with L1150 or AM3+? It's in my interest to reduce the power usage of other components while maintaining the performance of the rig.
Is it worth it to buy these components from amazon warehouse deals to save money?

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>>60859703
You should also consider future performance. The future is in multicore scaling.
If you have followed intel closely recently, they have finally given up on 4-core restriction in the desktop, and announced the i9 processors which have up to 18 cores.

4 core chips won't have such a bright outlook anymore now that intel has admitted to future is beyond 4 cores.

>>60858093
>>60858188
I have a FreeSync monitor so the GTX 1060 is useless, might as well just keep my R9 270 in that case. Basically my R9 270 can't really hold 60 FPS at 1440p when playing Overwatch with minimal settings, which is why I bought the RX 480.

It basically depends if small/affordable Vega is going to (a) be released soon, (b) going to be worth its value, considering HBM2 is so expensive.

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Any good guides to understand what each part does and how good it is?

Building a PC seems like like a big jigsaw puzzle but actually deciding on parts is fucking daunting for me since I am clueless about each part and why they are better than other ones.

I want to build a PC that will easily run games and games in the future with ease.
I live in Ireland and have about two grand to play around with.

>>60860323
It's really just a small puzzle. but the most daunting thin for a beginner is to figure out how to connect power-button / HDD-LED / Power-LED and so on, to the motherboard.

But there is always a manual that follows with the motherboard, and there is always 1 page in the manual, which has loyout of the motherboard, and instructions of whoch cabinet wires go where in the motherboard.

The rest is very simple puzzle.
Read the OP first.

>>60860359
I probably wasn't clear in my post but building the PC seems easy, deciding on which parts to buy is what is confusing me.

Will a cooler master Hyper 212 plus work with a R5 1600x? I can't seem to find a straight answer.

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>>60857902
>>60857916
Alright, I've been thinking about this some more and I'll probably try to go for a build with the 1600 and a cheapo GPU and just upgrade the GPU later instead of getting the Ryzen 3 and a cheap GPU. I'll probably just fuck myself over if I get a weak CPU but I can live with a weaker GPU temporarily.

My local store has the GT 1030 at €87, the XFX RX460 at €97, the 550 at €112, the 1050 at €138 and the 560 at €142. I assume that the RX460 is the best bang for buck for low end games like League and Overwatch?

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>Planned on building PC two moths ago
>Car breaks

I have gathered enough money again to look into building one but all of amd's gpus are out of stock what the fuck is happening

>>60860400

Yes, with the AM4 bracket kit.

>>60860410
>I assume that the RX460 is the best bang for buck
Among those? yeah pretty much.
The 550 is actually slower than 460.
The 560 and 1050 are faster than 460, but not worth the extra cost.

Go for it if you need something here and now.

>>60860410
>I'll probably try to go for a build with the 1600 and a cheapo GPU and just upgrade the GPU later instead of getting the Ryzen 3
Good choice.

The only thing Ryzen 3 will have going for it is the good performance per watt.
With the direction both AMD and intel is going, 4 cores will be low end in general very soon.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tCrJWX

Building a gaming PC on a budget of 650 GBP

Thoughts?

>>60860857
looks good. I'd spend more on the motherboard but that's me. Go for an Asrock AB350M Pro 4

>>60860929
Reason why?

>>60860857
R5 1600 is a lot better than R5 1500X for just a little bit more.

>>60860857
>72 eurocuck bucks for 16 GiB
Fuck you.

Can anyone tell me what they think of this build? sorry its not a partpicker list

https://gyazo.com/0ffda3c55088737f64f5b1a7dfdcc768

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Anything stand out as being "too much" for the rest of the build? I'd like to bring the price down a bit if I could

Other suggestions welcome

>>60860954
VRMs

1500x or 1600 for gaymen? Does it make a difference?

Would a
Ryzen 1600
Some b350 board
16 Gb ram
and a gtx 1080Ti would be enough for running games at 3440x1440p
Want to try the new Battlefront and Metro Exodus

>>60861054
Having 6 cores over 4 cores is already making a very big difference now.
6 to 8, not so much(yet)

So definitely the 1600.

>>60861065
Yes.

>>60861054
In gaming? Meh.
But it's worth it overall, and probably in more cpu intensive games.
And like>>60860980 said, it's worth it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GsccLD
First time building in a few years, and I'm going to be playing at 1440p. I wanted to do an all AMD build but fucking cryptoniggers bought all the RX 580s before I could snag one.

best way to control my 4pin pwm fans i just installed?

>>60861000
anyone?

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Went from a [email protected] w/ 8 GB DDR3 1600 to Ryzen [email protected] w/ 16 GB DDR4 3066(3200 bios fucking shits).

Feels great. My 970 is memeing along. Waiting for Vega/price drop.

Thanks /g/aybois!

>>60861159
The 1600 is this generation's 2500k.

>>60861135
Read the OP. NO ONE is going to recommend an Intel i5 for ANYTHING now. It's just bad value/performance compared with AMD's Ryzen 5 offerings.
Swap the Z motherboard for an AMD B350 board, and the 7600k for an AMD Ryzen 5 1600.

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>>60861135
The intel CPU is slightly faster for games now, and faster for older games.

But it's only barely holding own due to overclocking. The games developed in 2016 was the turning point, and in the future your quadcore will be more worse off.

>>60861107
Why would you buy such expensive fans?
The rest is good, though you don't need to spend that much money on RAM at all

>>60861207
>BF1
>i5 wins
Not sure what benchmark you've looked at but BF1 is quite CPU heavy, at times the i5 may get higher FPS but the rest (most) of the time the 4 threads will pin the i5 down almost constantly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo

Hell, even the 1500x doesn't get nearly as much FPS drop as the i5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjHYM7zDiE

Gammaxx 400 or Cryorig M9?

>>60861246
That was just AdoredTV's overview of TomsHardware's current test suite.

It's a good hint of things to come in 2017 and 2018.

>>60861213
The RAM is expensive because it's new and Ryzen certified.

>>60861207
>The intel CPU is slightly faster for games now, and faster for older games.
Only the i7 7700k. The i5 7600k he's looking at loses on multiple occasions to the Ryzen 5 1600

New thread: >>60861292

>>60861299
I agree, the 1600 is winning it for me, especially when we count in performance per watt.

I mean that thing use less than 65 watt.
It's an amazing CPU.

So this gonna be used only for games, upcomig titles as Shadow of war, Battlefront,Metro exodus

Want to run this games at high/ultra at 3440x1440p at 60hz

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bY98TW/lg-monitor-34uc88

Just got my Ryzen 1600 + 1060 build complete.
I've got speccy, what do you all use to monitor temps and what not?
Maybe some benchmarks too.

>>60861001
Get R5 1600 instead, comes with a good cooler for free and allows decent overclock
Change motherboard to ASRock Pro4 or any MSI or Asus, avoid Gigabyte because of shitty VRM.