Why isn't this the standard PC config? Its LITERALLY superior

>>60847272
Because horizontal space is worth more than vertical space

>>60847365
>put your monitor on top of it
>now you don't need a riser
>save space where the tower would sit

>>60847376
>put your monitor on top of the exhaust fans
that doesn't sound like a plus at all

>>60847376
My god, you are retarded.

>>60847365
You could fit that in almost the same footprint, its just a matter of changing the motherboard layout.

>>60847272
Because of the ATX standard. When it was developed, video cards were barely a thing, let alone the 250W monstrosities we have these days. It's rubbish for the thermal requirements of modern systems, but for better or worse, that's what we're stuck with.

>>60847365
exactly
save the horizontal space for things that matter most

>>60847272
No it's not.

>>60847272
btx

>>60848420
Yes it is.

>>60848353
Developing a new motherboard layout is relatively simple.

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>>60848475
How is this better?

>>60848483
>no arguments provided

>>60848709
>no arguments provided

>>60848759
Yes it is.
>he claims it to be superior
>doesnt say why
heres your argument
now you go

>>60848834
No it isn't.
>he claims it to be inferior
>doesnt say why
heres your argument
now you go

>>60848852
You're the one that made the initial claim. The burden of proof is on you.

>>60848353
BTX was supposedly going to save us all but they tend got the same result by putting the PSU in the bottom of the case, usually hidden away from other components in an insulated compartment.

Another idea is that heat rises and so having the GPU facing up instead of down would increase heat in the heat sinks but because it is being taken through a heat pipe and dispersed through fins which always have airflow through them anyways.

Ultimately the best airflow option would be to have two 240mm fans in front, one out the back and a turbine (like a reference cooler) on the GPU. That was you get a positive internal pressure which the turbine likes and you get a somewhat uniform air flow through the case.

That being said, my case has two 120mm on the front on a corsair radiator, one 120mm on the back flowing in over a radiator on my Radeon 295x2 and then two 140mm fans exhausting out the top.
It tends to run very cool and quiet but I am not sure if I have a positive, neutral or negative overall case pressure.

>>60848890
You're the one that made the initial claim. The burden of proof is on you.

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>>60847365
say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens

>>60848506
Developing a new motherboard form factor is simple, sure. Actually getting companies to develop and market products based on it? That's the hard part.

There's a chicken and egg problem, where motherboard makers won't do new motherboards if there are no cases that support them, and case makers won't make cases without motherboards. Multiply that across whatever is new for the standard (PSUs etc.), and the problem becomes that much worse.

Plus there's no consumer awareness, which means no initial demand, so companies face a massive uphill battle to gain mindshare. People would need to be convinced that something is better before they'll buy it. Like >>60849016 said, intel tried with BTX, but that went nowhere with consumers and died out.

>>60849101
>pc on desk, not below it
>>>/v/

>>60849176
If anyone could do it then it is OEMs but I think that BTX was too different a layout to be worthwhile when there are other ways to keep airflow good and components cool.

I tend to agree with your statement.

>>60849176
>People would need to be convinced that something is better before they'll buy it
>Build prototype
>Give to youtubers to test and demonstrate you can get much better temps with lower noise

All parts would be the same as they are now, the only thing that changes is the layout.

>>60847376
Didnt' they used to do that in the late 90s? I remember school PCs being like that.

>>60849016
>>60849176
>>60849252
BTX had good cooling but the problem was that it tightly constrained motherboard layout. Socket location, DIMM location, HSF mounting holes, all that was specified. Among other things the initial versions made it impossible to make a compliant Athlon 64 BTX motherboard, because the integrated memory controller meant that traces had to run from the DIMMs to the CPU, and not to a northbridge, and had tighter length restrictions. This was a big reason mobo and case makers refused to get on board.

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>>60849289
SFF PCs still can be used that way.
It's very efficient space-wise.

>>60849289
Yeah that's basically any sff dell pc. but now they have a better form factor then any of this bulky garbage made up by op. Nuc sized pcs, raspberry pis, and computer sticks.

>>60848523
It wasn't that's why it failed

It had a good concept of putting the CPU near the intake, but even that would be bad for things like the GPU

>>60849364
Thats why a horizontal design where all heat distribution goes upwards is much better.

>>60849264
All parts except the motherboard and case, presumably. What I said still applies.

I see some problems with the layout in the OP, however. One, it looks like it relies on a PCIe riser to mount the GPU parallel to the motherboard. That's problematic because it can introduce signal degradation. Particularly with the upcoming PCIexpress 4.0 placing some strict limits on the number of connectors allowed in the PCIe channel, risers may be out of the question.

There's also the problem of how you would do more than a single GPU and/or other expansion cards. Not everyone uses only a single video card and nothing else.

>>60847365
>tfw I have tons of horizontal space on my desk but nobody makes non-meme horizontal cases

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>>60849224

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>>60849387
The extension could be from the motherboard itself, instead of from a riser.

Basically an L shape with spaces for airflow.

>>60849507
Mate... that's a riser.

Motherboard. Mother. Board. It's in the name. It's not a board if it's L-shaped. It's multiple boards connected together.

>>60849478
only underage gaymurs put their pcs on the desk
so they can jerk off to their mad specs
why else would you have a window in your case
and how can you explain the cum stained fans and slot covers

>>60849544
There is a difference between a riser and physically modifying the shape of the board while maintaining all current connections.

>>60849507
>>60849565
do you have any idea how pcbs are being manufactured?

>>60849592
Are you saying its impossible?

>>60849565
That's my point: a circuit board is inherently two dimensional. Any extension into 3D space requires the use of extra connectors. It's these connectors that are problematic for highly time- and interference-sensitive signals like PCIexpress.

I'm not at all able to tell what the fuck you're describing from that shit image

>>60849598
nothing is impossible in engineering
it's just way too expensive to actually do it

>>60849619
Everything was expensive at the beginning.

>>60849617
He's described ur mom pretty well tho: a square box with a bunch of guts inside and a lot of hot air comin out the top

>>60849630
it's not just the beginning
the process of making three dimensional objects is inherently less efficient than making flat things
that is especially true for things like pcbs
that go through many different highly automated steps
and are produced in extremely large quantities with razor thin profit margins

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>>60849380
It already exists, I don't know if they still make it though

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>>60849101

>>60849761
>ports on the top

Yeah... no.

>>60849016
>Tfw no turbine case

The real question is why dont more enthusiasts use ducted fans/heatsinks

>>60850909

Because you still need airflow over VRMs.

>>60850919

which you can still do with a duct

>>60849310
>>60849289
>>60847376
The new hotness is VESA bracket sized PCs bolted to the back of the monitor.

Gamer fag detected.