WHY THE HATE?

>>60840075
Because they are dumb.

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>>60840075
Arch users

>>60840075
I thought that mint was gnome.

>>60840138
Gnome is a DE.

>>60840138
Summer fag everywhere.

Because it's mainstream.

/g/ likes only obscure shit.

>>60840075
Because Gentoo and Arch fags can't fathom that anyone would want an easy to use, ready out of the box Linux distro.

>>60840075
Cause they do some really un-linux things with their packages and take some serious shortcuts with security. Also, in my experiance, system uses resources less efficiently then Ubuntu.

>>60840075
Jealousy. Cinnamon's the best DE for Linux by far. GNOME a shit, Xfce is antiquated and KDE is crash-friendly.

Thoughts on Mint 18.2 BETA?

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>>60840388
>Cinnamon
>best

Because it's the downstream of a downstream. It's literally Ubuntu but repackaged shoddily and with a green coat applied. There is no reason to use it over Ubuntu or better yet Debian.

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>>60840606
>using DE
>good thing

>>60840703
>using GUI

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>>60840075

>>60840671
>literally Ubuntu but repackaged
The Mint team develops a DE as well.

>>60840075
because some people like security

>>60840356
>implying that every distro is not easy to use
>>60840383
>un-linux and apt-get is linux
>>60840388
stupidest statement I have ever read

>>60840075
because it was a terrible idea to make yet another distro just because of a new DE. they break package dependencies with the official ubuntu and debian repositories, they have a shit ton of bugs which aren't sorted out and they have had multiple break ins.

mint is just another distro that wants to be different but doesn't even remotely manages to be consistent with their shit, it's a failure and cinnamons development has been slowing down so much, while some core components like nemo still face software childhood diseases like memory leaks.

it is just fucking bad

>>60840075
mint is unnessary. Just install cinnamon on ubuntu or debian.

>>60840886
And we see your faggot tripcode everyday.
>>>/r/eddit

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>>60840383
mdm
Provides: x-display-manager
Priority: optional
I don't care what package debian chose to call mdm.
I'm not using debian.
I'll let the distro maintainers worry about that.

>>60841391
This is all 100% true, but ironically enough it just werkz. My mint laptop and desktop are the only machines that just stay working. My fedora boxes have all bricked themselves over minor updates and stuff like arch takes too long to get working how you want. Even debian is like that really. Ubuntu was botnet and unity was trash so I just ignored them. The rest of the distros are just shit as well. You've got aboslutely broken garbage that doesnt even succeed at what it was trying to do in the first place (ie elementary) Then all thats left is enterprise server OS's like centos/rhel which i'm not going to use at home unless its being utilized as a server, and shit like hannah montana linux and gentoo.

>>60840075
its an uglier version of ubuntu, if you're not using Cinnamon its useless

>>60841516
OP screenshot is mate.
Cinnamon is quite nice.

>>60840887
A DE you can also easily install on Ubuntu and Debian.

>>60841565
mate dark theme pleb checking in

>>60841420
cinnamon on ubuntu is uneccesary, just install cinnamon mint.
>>60841507
It's not %100 true at all. mint is like a good ubuntu as ubuntu is like a good debian.
I probably won't install ubuntu or debian ever again.

>>60840388
Dubs of truth

>>60840075
Because they're literally kikes

>>60841507
ever since i moved back to gentoo, i have had only had an minor issue with a perl upgrade, which took like 5 minutes to resolve. development cycle of fedora is to slow for me and i hate reinstalling systems just because of a major release. debian simply can't handle clean upgrade procedures and i also don't like any deb related distrbution. their configuration styles are horrible, their user base is clueless and unhelpful and you barely find any resolution to an issue without cutting an entire forum down to every single thread containing your distribution name.

centos can be a decent desktop, you can use rpmforge or epel for software that is not delivered by default and you can configure it to the same extend as any rhel/fedora, with the downside that with a major release you have to do it fresh.

if you want a decent desktop, go for ubuntu, (open)suse or fedora, anything else is unreliable garbage.

>>60841631
Doesn't have a valid argument so claims your right if you have dubs

>>60841608
>It's not %100 true at all. mint is like a good ubuntu as ubuntu is like a good debian.
I probably won't install ubuntu or debian ever again.

how is mint a good ubuntu if you break dependencies with upstream by reversioning everything because you want to be a special snowflake? you don't know what the fuck you are talking about kid

>>60841684
It was a factual post. Dubs only enhance the factuality

>>60841689
see
>>60841479

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>>60841689
>I like having Amazon ads pop up whenever I try to do anything with my computer

>>60841701
Yeah I love being on an OS with broken packages and security and on top of that I have to deal with the ugliest looking DE

>>60841689
>special snowflake
>single most popular distro.
OK kid.

>>60841715
your own fault for using unity

>>60841718
Then you should switch to Mint :^)

>>60841709
just because you don't care doesn't make it good or even better. in fact it does the exact opposite, if you trust your distribution to provide stable and up to date packages, you would think that this provides sufficient security. well if you break dependencies on purpose because of mixing multiple repositories together you create nothing but inconsistent and insecure garbage.

>>60841715
see
>>60841730

given that the distribution is intended for the typical clueless marketing victim fa/g/got i get your point, but you could spend 5 minutes on googling how to change it in a number of ways so it doesn't happen, same as with windows 10 and their explorer ads

>>60841755
Haven't had that happen yet.

>>60841755
One linux mint repo and a bunch of ubuntu repos.
No confilcts yet.

>>60841727
because something is popular doesn't mean it's a ripoff? look at justin biebers career, his music is garbage but he was popular and he remade popular tracks by other artist which still doesn't make his style of music any better

literally don't know how to argue, classic fa/g/got

>>60841855
I love that logic so much its popular so it must be good

>>60841855
That's why I don't like ubuntu.
Linux mint is actually quite nice, though.

>>60841881
yeah dude no security and broken packages for the win

>>60841855
>Ripoff
Open source software based on other open source software makes it a fork not a ripoff

>>60841899
software based on software based on software and the end result is broken packages = good distro

>>60841894
security updates come from security.ubuntu.com

>>60841794
>see the direct reply to the post
0/10

On third version of linux mint.
No broken packages yet.
No problems whatsoever yet.
The only distro I've ever broke on an update was ubuntu, and I used Arch for 3 years or so.

>>60841921
think im talking about that kind of security if you are that dumb mint is perfect for you

>>60841921
but not from mint .... really makes you think

>>60841899
most forks intend to have a goal that makes sense, distros that don't have clear goals usually die within a couple of years. the only goal mint initially had was to maintain a ubuntu fork managed by the community instead of by a company, then along came cinnamon. in the end half of the community goals turned out to be mostly related to cinnamon, while other things were neglected. but they continued to split the project even further, to the point were they wanted to split package just for cinnamon and ubuntu and things turn out to look like this http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=Sonya

>>60842002
Oh, you must mean the sense of security you feel by complying with all /g/ distro memes.

>>60841950
being ignorant and stupid sure helps growing as a person, i wish you all the best in nowhere in your life :)

>>60842060
sure is secure that you add beta packages to your stable upstream. you sure told him :^)

>>60842060
I dont have arch or gentoo because I dont follow these gay /g/ memes

>>60842096
Now you've got me genuinely concerned.
Or are you talking about wallpapers-extra.deb

>>60842083
>posts to link a reply of a post to the post again
>calls other people stupid
ok kid

>>60842133
sure it's a /g/-meme but if you configured it once it will continue to do its job for a very very long time without the issues you encounter on most distros.

that implies you actually know what the fuck you are doing, how to use the cli and don't just use linux to pretend to be some cewl haxor while you actually just riced your shitty desktop with a tilling window manager

>>60842192
I'm not that much of a tard my OS is slackware

>>60842170
how about grub

>>60842211
grub is the biggest piece of shit evermade

>>60842201
never touched slack, always heard you have to pick your packages by hand because there is no real package manager, have to link stuff yourself and basically write automation for everything full time. that really doesn't sound appealing

>>60842222
that is your argument that grub is the biggest shit ever made? be it as it is, grub is by default used with the mint installation, so shit's even shittier

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>>60842222
Quads of truth

>>60842240
that used to be the case but now there's sbotools that uses slackbuilds.org which is a website where you can download the source of programs and get a .SlackBuild file that compiles it for Slackware by source then use installpkg to install it but with sbotools it auto downloads and runs and does so for all if its dependencies 2

>>60840075
Mint itself is okay, but their only good work is the cinnamon DE, which is much better on arch

>>60840388
speaking the truth here

>>60840743
>using a screen with a pixel matrix instead of a character based split-flap display, like it's been intended by the TUI gods

>>60842320
hm, don't see much of a benefit using slackware, except if you do some embedded stuff maybe

>>60842422
You can compile 99% of everything on it(even other package managers) so its super neutral, you know exactly what your installing at all times, super stable because they dont rush there updates, really complete out of box. Well anyway those are the reasons I use it

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>>60842400

>>60842211
I'm using the same version ubuntu-live, kubuntu-live, edubuntu-live, xubuntu-live, mythbuntu-live, lubuntu-live, ubuntustudio-live, ubuntustudio-dvd-live, ubuntu-gnome-live, ubuntukylin-live, ubuntu-mate-core, ubuntu-mate-desktop, ubuntu-mate-cloudtop do.

>>60840075
Mint looks really ugly, regardless of its desktop environment.

>>60842677

$ dconf dump /org/cinnamon/desktop/keybindings/ | grep screenshot
screenshot-clip=['Print']
area-screenshot-clip=['<Alt>Print']
screenshot=['<Control>Print']
window-screenshot-clip=['<Shift>Print']
window-screenshot=['<Control><Shift>Print']
area-screenshot=['<Control><Alt>Print']

$ pacman -Q obs-studio gnome-screenshot 
obs-studio 19.0.2-1
gnome-screenshot 3.22.0+42+g8472361-1

>>60841715
Unity has not done that since Ubuntu 14.04. Ubuntu is on 17.04 now. Stop spreading misinformation.

>>60842888
So does your Mom.
Nice trips.

>>60842917
out of the box.

>>60840075

NSA/systemd

>>60840075
its existance has no purpose
just stop being a special snowflake and use an ubuntu flavor like everyone else

>>60841739
>>60842096
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>60840388
Nothing against cinnamon but i must wholeheartedly disagree about the claim regarding KDE fampai.

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>using a distro based on a distro based on another distro

>>60842942
On Antergos, it works OOTB:
https://github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/blob/master/data/packages.xml#L162-L209

>>60843120
ctrl-alt-shift r desktop screen recording webm?
(cinnamon-record)

>>60842998
you can stop saying snowflake now

>>60842998
>everybody else.
Wait, mint makes iso's with other de's?
Wait. Ubuntu makes a cinnamon iso?

>>60843137
Yes, does work...

$ dconf dump /org/cinnamon/desktop/keybindings/wm/ | grep recording
toggle-recording=['<Control><Shift><Alt>r']
$ ffprobe -v error -show_format -show_streams ~/cinnamon-20170610-1.webm | grep codec_name
codec_name=vp8

>>60843151
oke special snowflake

>>60840075
Because it's a lazy half-assed buggy reskinned version of Ubuntu. Incompetent devs can't maintain it properly. Much like Manjaro. Don't trust any distro based on other distros, have green logos, and start with an M.

>>60843429
It's not buggy at all. You'd know if you'd ever tried it.
>>60843254
Nice.

>>60844018
sure lad, that's why nemo continues to consume a shit ton of ram while you actually have no more sessions open. or cinnamon still throws exceptions because it's actually not supporting kernel bpo and causing your DE to freeze.

it's literally garbage and yall mint fags are in denial. you were in denial when it got breached the first time, the second time, when the post about the horror of dependencies and shit development was posted on lwn.net, same as you were in denial when arch got package signing after 10 years.

you are just another clueless fa/g/got

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>>60840137
t. too stupid to get arch working

>>60840075
Retards can't handle the fact it's friendly to Windows users

>>60841565
thats what I meant precisely. Cinnamon is best on its native developers OS, MATE is also developed by the Mint team innit? but MATE is shit IMO

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>>60844339
The average Arch user

>>60840388
MATE for life, nigga.

>>60844438
bad DE for life, nigga

>>60840075
>Why do people talk shit on Mint so much?
It got popular. That's it.