Apple's new air cooling system

Because it's probably bullshit

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>>60827880
>efficient, quiet and powerful air cooling system

>>60827880
air cooling system on PC is superior.

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Because lower clocks = lower TDP.
Not that it works for apple anyway.

>>60827880
>Implying that shit won't throttle after 30 seconds of full load or sound like a jet taking oft

>>60827962
>>60828072
>all this butthurt
hhahahah... you're so mentally ill.

>>60827880
it will throttle. The whole idea of using laptop internals to build desktop computers and pretty much having the worst of both worlds for the sake of looking pretty it's stupid.
I get it if you need a desktop computer to update your facebook status but in that case I would highly recommend you get a macbook instead, at least you can carry that one around with you.

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Cooling is not their strong point, can't even use an iphone when in direct sunlight

>>60827880
>proof by computer animation
Apple everyone.

>>60827880
Didn't know throttling count as cooling solution

>>60827880
I like those bare mosfets smooshed under the ram, probably cools like a champ.

>>60827880
No fucking way that tiny ass heatsink is going to effectively dissipate what is going to be at least 300w worth of power at the minimum without sounding like a jet engine, god forbid if that xeon has a non-soldered heat spreader.

>>60829993
Luckily mosfets can handle in excess of 125C, might not be the best for the life of them, but there the most hardy component on the board when it comes to temp

>>60830173
>a dozen 125 degree components sandwiched between my cpu and ram in an already poorly cooled $5000 aluminum box is a good idea

Come on man.
Macs don't bother me, use what you want, but don't act like thats a good idea.

>>60830240
Not saying its a good design. Just saying it shouldn't catch on fire but for 5k there should be a heatsink even if its a small one

>>60827880

Amazing. So the air before entering the fans is ice cold and exits the machine piping hot? Is that what I'm supposed to take away from this?

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>>60830430

>>60830449

>Howdy red! Now I get to practice my stabbin'.

Because decades-old, standardized pieces of shit like this will always remain cheap.

>>60827880
I know this is obvious bait but come on, Apple is known for shoddy cooling.

Good, hot air straight to applefags' lap, anyway average male apple user dont really care about procreation

>>60829762
This.

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>>60827880

Question, I am really interested in the new 13" rMBP without a touchbar. Does anyone know if it still throttles? I heard the new Kabylake chips are much cooler than the Skylake chips so it no longer throttles.

>>60831456
>mac
>not throttle

Pick one.

>>60831456
Who the fuck told you that Kabylake runs cooler?

>>60827880
I don't expect everyone in this thread to be smart but I will ask you this.

You do realize that cooler is not as efficient as Apple wants you to believe it is.

Sure, 2 sides of PCB with hardware on them being continuously cooled by 2 different turbine styled blower fans. That is pretty great.

But imagine having an 18 core running at 4GHz with 128GB of RAM with 4TB of NVMe storage and some single 11 Tflops capable GPU which is AMD.

The coolers will 100% be loud and the 18 core (if used by something like after effects or 3ds MAX) will throttle as low as 2 GHz, calling it.

Apple fucked up. They wanted to be edgy and look like the smart people of the era stuffing workstation grade hardware in a laptop enclosure ecosystem and they don't even know what they're in for. The bloody thing will start throttling like crazy the instant you get a bit of dust inside.

People like MKBHD will get one because they use Apple software but a normal person wouldn't. It's nice, fancy, all in all but it will ultimately not manage properly. Not even in the slightest. I can't wait to see the initial shitfest with Premiere/Finalcut Pro/iMovie crashing like it was their destinies.

>>60831661
Did you even watch the WWDC'17?

Apple said Kabylake MBP with new Speedstep technology is much cooler and more efficient than previous models.

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>>60831752
>I can't wait to see the initial shitfest with Premiere/Finalcut Pro/iMovie crashing like it was their destinies.

That's because Apple only tests Facebook functionality on macs.

>>60827880
>no intakes vents
>no exhausts
>good air system

>>60831778
It will be golden.

I bet some people with hard earned cash will spend the top dollar on this iMac Pro and will get the top end version expecting to have that "buttery smooth" experience they've been searching for so long.

Everything will go according to plan, the hardware will deliver and it will be nice. 2 Hours into doing something intensive and the whole Mac is lagging like crazy just to see 9 cores being completely shut down while the other 9 struggle at 3 GHz flat, the GPU being clocked at 25% of the power and the RAM performing sub par. Not to mention the NVMe drives starting to reach Sata 3 speeds. The whole system locking up randomly and starting to fuck up on another level.

Tons of posts will appear stating how bad the iMac throttles and under-performs heavily compared to a proper workstation tower.

Apple will release a High Siera major update and all of a sudden the CPU/GPU start to throttle almost immediately as you start doing something more demanding. Users will realise their 18 core is no more/no less more powerful than a current gen 6900K and the amazing 11TFlops AMD card is as good as an R9 Fury.

I can't fucking wait. It will be so fucking amusing to see all of the posts and people crying endlessly in the comments sections saying how they were ripped off or how they know Apple will somehow pull this trough but... spoiler: Some ugly ass cooler designs will pop up to support the iMac Pro and they will be stupidly loud and almost as useless.

2017-2018 will be the year of TOPPEST KEK for Apple. It will be the best comedy written ever since Intel panic released the Kaby Lake X series.

>An AIO
>with a fucking Xeon Housefire
>in the middle of Netburst 2.0
Why Apple? Why you didn't go for the obvious solution?

>>60831456
Wait for Ryzen Macbooks.

>efficient
>quiet
>powerful
We don't know yet if it's any of those things.

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>>60827880
Because PC manufacturers don't just look at it and consider it efficient, they do rigorous testing beforehand and in case it doesn't "just werk" they approach it differently, unlike Apple.

Also, why the hell are Apple thinking that the iPhone way of doing things should be the general way of doing things?

Who in that company thought it would be a good idea to ditch HDMI/D-Port, ports in favor of TB3? It was a dumb idea. Not everyone is going to get the LG ExtraFine or what the fuck it's called for this.

>>60827915
>Because it's probably bullshit
Apple's the biggest and most powerful tech company in the world. They don't make bullshit.

I think PC companies don't have enough money to spend on cooling engineering.

>>60832063
I think you don't know what you're talking about and you should either:

A. Look at the past to see how good Apple was with almost all the laptops they made (hint: crazy throttling, components not properly functioning like on the new macbook pro where the wifi completely cuts off if you are using 1 TB3 port with necesary power output to the external device)

B. Not talk because not talking is best when you have no idea what you're talking about.

>If we put it in a sealed case with only an exhaust port, no inlets, then air will just come from everywhere in the case evenly cooling shit!
Fucking apple at it again

>>60827880
Man I wish that Apple would have gone with Epyc.

That would have been the greatest analblasting of all time

>>60832101
>no inlets
You mean apart from the huge slots all along the bottom of the screen?

Why is it that the anti-Apple shills have no capability of doing even the slightest bit of research?

>>60832004
HDMI is for plebs
DP is where its at
Also remember that TB3/USB-C can be adapted to any digital output so you can even use DVI if thats your thing.

>>60831456
No, you'll have to wait until crapple adopts Ryzen Mobile.

>>60831936
Because Thunderbolt or whatever. Yea, not going for Threadripper is fucking retarded.

>>60827880
> put your macbook on your bed
> it melts

this is actually worst than the charging port on the mouse

bravo apple, bravo

>>60828255
You're gay and ignorant, two very common traits for an applel user

>>60832309
Thunderbolt will be royalty free soon. Also, Intel, even being jews, doesn't not explicitally forbid using Thunderbolt on AMD systems.
I'm believing that Apple will use Intel crap only because AMD is seen as "cheap"

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>>60832063
Apple is a fucking joke and was built on marketing bullshit, especially to clueless gullible retards like you.

>>60827880
>efficient, quiet and powerful
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>60832145
I bet that almost of all thermal problems that Microsoft and Apple suffer in their devices is because they try to reach the max limit that Intel supposedly provides.
Supposedly, because we all know that Intel is shit.

>>60832317
It's an iMac genius

>>60832520
>actually defending Pentium Housefire because Apple
The hate is strong with this one.

>>60832063
the last few macbook pros have had horrible heating problems

>>60832610
>pentium housefire
>G5s
I dont think you know what you're talking about, go fuck your dad on myspace

Those are 2 laptop blower fans on a desktop. This thing is gonna thermal throttle like a bitch.

>>60832063
They lied about the performance of the trash can. That thing throttled heavily especially if you used the cpu and the gpu at the same time.

>>60832629
>implying that the pentium wasn't a housefire
>b-but the powerpc 970 was a housefire too
(((You)))

Hello fellow martyrs. Can someone tell me why my in game stats aren't lining up or why jewels that I farmed are gone?

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>>60832063
Name the last Macbook without thermal throttling issues.

>>60832158
My bad, they're not pulling a mac mini, they're doing a macbook air.
Put a massive even inlet on and expect the air will flow evenly throughout instead of taking the path of least resistance, which is why the entire right half of a macbook air's motherboard doesn't get a drop of cooling

>>60832499
Who cares about the price when performance is what matters? iMac "Pro" is supposed to be a workstation.

>>60832646
i'm not denying pentiums weren't running hot as fuck, but as hot as they ran powerpcs were running like a nuclear reactor while driving like a tractor

>>60832673
Macbook Pro mid 2012 non retina.
Not him, but that shit didnt get that hot like the retina ones.
I even used one with the fan disconected for almost two months and it didn't gave much issues, besides the obvious throttling on high demand.

>>60832686
Marketing anon.

>>60832698
lmao the last decent macbook was 5 yrs ago, they're all just facebook machines now

>>60832646
970 was not a simple housefire. It was a nuclear reactor. Even P4EE (Presshot) or 9590 can't compete.

>>60831914
Holy shit macs throttle that bad?

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I have a laptop from 2011 that has the same shit, this kind of cooler in slim laptops has been standard for years.

>>60832711
They are using Radeon. Apple customers don't care about fucking hardware, anon.

>>60832718
>not powering your computer with a chernobil disaster
Seriously, they did the right thing to change to Intel.
But, for fucks sake, they should do the same now.
>>60832732
I guess that Intel has Apple grabbed by the balls via contracts.

>>60832773
I guess so. Intel is in really desperate situation now. AMD is about to start an all-out attack on their most valuable markets so any OEM is valuable to Intel.

>>60832698
That's fair, but the gorgeous Retina displays are the only draw Macs have these days (t. owner of a retina mbp)

>>60832603
I thought it was something relevant since the OP made somewhat a comparison, although almost no manufacturerers makes all in one nowdays other than apple

liquid cooling is much better than this shit

>>60832822
They need Raven Ridge. Seriously, they can't trying to verify if Intel thermal spec is true or not.
Or at least they should go back to the thickness of the 2012 macbook. That could get sufficient cooling.

>>60832894
>crapple
>making things thicker
It's Raven Ridge or bust.

>everyone asumme that the cooler will be a tiny ass laptop fan
It will fail anyways, it has Intel.

>>60833004
It will be a big and earrapey blower.

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>>60832063
>Apple's the biggest and most powerful tech company in the world. They don't make bullshit.

>tech company.
>doesn't make bullshit.

Next your going tell me about the honest bank and the competent government.

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>>60832610
>actually defending G5 thermonuclear WMDs because Apple
The brainwashing is strong with this one.

>>60827880
What's i'm looking at is hopw fans are efficiently feeding oxygen into the fire.

>>60833355
kek

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ex-macfag here, I still remember the blister burn I got on my wrist from falling asleep with my core2duo MBP in bed. to this day I don't even know how I managed to not wake up with my sheets on fire. Hot as a fucking waffle iron

>>60833440
you deserve it for buying a gay fruit laptop

>>60832731
Its okay if you are using a ultra low power cpu, but its never going to work on a 350+Watts enclosure.

Plus, consider the display also generate heat. If they dont proper ventilate the display, or worse, let the heat from the boards reach the display its going to get fucked really soon.

Apple is so full of shit it believe to be able to bend laws of thermodynamics

Wait, current i7 laptops has smaller, shittier, single fan, shit tier vent and you can manage to game on them

This has dual ovary 3 inch fans with ok tier vent. Heat wont be a problem, specially mac users will rarely utilize the resouces 100%.

>>60827880
What's so special about it? It's essentially the same type of cooling that's been used in laptops for years now.

Apple computers almost always fucking throttle unless they have the ultra low voltage CPUs, and even those run at like 90'c.

Apple has always had the shittest cooling to get the lightest gayest fashion designer laptop. Now they make a trash can with compromised cooling. Yeah very revolutionary.

>>60833242
>because apple
Nah, I'm a powerpc fag.

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>>60829756
Direct sunlight can heat cars up to 160f/70c .... so add in a processor running and of course you can't use it at that temp.

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>>60832004
>PC manufacturers do rigorous testing
Top fucking kek holy shit you can't possibly believe this

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>>60827880
Negro please. My G750 had this 4 years ago.

>>60834718
But this has a Xeon Netburst 2.0.

>>60827880
>efficient
That's just two heatpipes over the heated area and a really small, not-so-dense cooling fin packaging. Most tower and even larger flat aircoolers are significantly more efficient at cooling while watercooling is in a different league.
>quiet
Two sub-90mm centrifugal fans working together will still make a high-pitched din. Regular fans of similar sizes can move about 60-100% more air at the same RPM.
I've used blower-cooled aircoolers before, and all of them sounded like vacuum cleaners even on "quiet" settings.
>powerful
You mean "efficient"
You can buy more "powerful" air coolers than that for about $20-30. There is too much heat for two small heatpipes to manage for that design to be effective.

>>60827880
Am I the only one that's going to point out that's not how air works?

if you exhaust your hot air over your room temperature air, your hot air is going back through the system.

Which means it isn't cooing as much as it could and is most likely just getting slightly hotter by the second.

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>>60827880
Everything is personal computers.
"Macs" don't exist.

>>60827880
Nah nigger, their thermal design has yet to be proven. I guarantee you that it will throttle like hell.

>>60835009
It wouldn't matter if it had a fucking 2-stroke motorcycle engine where the CPU is supposed to be. Apple sacrifices cooling and performance for "muh thin and elegant". Gaming computers from 5 years ago out-cool any Macbook of today by leaps and bounds. You're doing a shitty shill job, Apple shill, no shill money for you.

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a thinkpad had a better cooling solution than that crap

>>60832719
Not immediately but in time they start to progressively throttle more and more.

Apple doesn't actually seem to care about delivering top performance to their users but to do nice things.

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Its been done

>>60827880
apple unironically thinks this is sufficient
lol

Only underage edgelords are into the apple hating meme

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>>60832387
Oh ok

>>60837515
Because a 19 year old faggot like you knows it's insufficient without even having seen or tested this device.

>>60832499
Soon it's in a year, the iMac Pro it's a ridiculous stop gap too keep some of their bleeding pro user base
In a year the actual Mac Pro redesign will be launched

>>60833509
People buying 18 core Xeons and TOTL GPUs actually do work on them

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desu, any 'Pro' spending 4999 U$ would buy a Mac Pro 2018, kit it maximum and match it with a 5K display.

Replace the Xenons and ECC RAM with a top speed i7 and it's good enough for anything but heavy use 'Pros'

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>nice keyboard/mouse/trackpad

>Apple with it's billions
> can't design and offer redesigned Mac Pro for a year

BAKA...

>>60839964
>Xenons

They had to come up with something to stop their products from melting and catching fire

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>>60830430
It actually looks a lot more like an owl.

We Harry Potter nao.

>>60827880
It won't work, like every other apple thermal solution.

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>>60827880
Am I the only person who thinks they could pull it off well if they used fluid bearings and a case designed to dampen sound?

>>60827880
Isn't this exactly what was said about the G5 tower's cooling? It's really interesting seeing history repeat itself.

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>>60827880
Apple's always ahead of everyone else. PC boxes are always huge and all the PC manufacturers can do is add HUGE-ASS 120/140mm fans. You can't make an aesthetically pleasing case from that.

Apple can put in 18-core CPU + VEGA Graphics in less than 2" of space. That's fucking impressive.

>>60840510
>Apple can put in 18-core CPU + VEGA Graphics in less than 2" of space. That's fucking impressive.
Now put both on 100% load.

>>60827880

That looks badly designed. It looks like the cold air has to cross over the hot air to get in the turbines. Why not just have all cold air coming from one inlet, through the heatsink, and then out the other way (exhaust)?

>>60832652
Get a life, slut. Or a job.

>>60832652
>>>/v/
Also, filtered.