/pcbg/ - PC Building General

I'll ask again from the last thread
I currently have most of the components for a Skylake build, all I need is the RAM, and am planning on buying a 16GB kit for about $150 (AUD), and then could add a new graphics card to it.
I know of a guy on gumtree (Aus' version of craigslist, essentially) that's selling an old LGA1366 system It'd be about $250 for the computer, hopefully upgrading its' CPU to a 6 core Xeon X5650 (+$80), upgrade to 24GB (+$80 from what I already have), and maybe adding a new graphics card.
I'd like to go for one or the other, to try and maximise what I get from it.
Currently out of a job, and have managed to keep aside about $500 from my last pay prior to being fired.
Would anyone mind sparing their opinions on it?
Cheers for reading this mess lads.

>first freesync 2 screens released
>27", 32" and monstrous 49"
>takeallmymoney.jpg
>none are 4k

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK sake samsung. A 4k freesync 2 screen is one of the two remaining parts I need to enter meme territory with a ryzen, freesync 2 and ful lfat vega system.

>>60827594
If you are dropping thw money on a 4K freesync 2 screen as soon as they come out, why not get Threadripper?

>>60827777

Don't need that sort of cpu horsepower - for my needs my 1700 is overkill but it was either that or a 7700k. Honestly the monitor is my biggest hurdle as I plan to keep it for a long time so I need a good one.

Are there any modern games that can't run smoothly at 1440p 60hz on a 1070, assuming very high settings but no bullshit settings that have extreme diminishing returns in regards to visual quality?

I didn't have much room in my budget for a monitor, so I bought a BenQ GL2460HM. Did I fuck up? Gpu is only a 1060 6gb.

Best CPU cooler under $30 (barring the 212)? Looking to get one for AM4 not sure if the availability of the mounting hardware is still hit or miss.

>>60828008

Many as cpu is a factor too.

>>60828008
You need a good CPU and 16GiB too.

>>60828108
>>60828120
I've got a i5 6600k and I'm planning to get 8 more gigs of RAM even if it would be useless for gaming

>>60828241
8 GB is fine for 1080p but if you want stable framerates at high resolutions then you'll need 16.

>>60828008
Doom. Probably.
I run it at 115fps on the highest settings possible (excluding megatextures, since 4GB VRAM) at 1080p.

I'm on a RX 570Nitro+ (no OC) and R7 [email protected]

>>60828366
yeah, I'm getting 8 more so I'll have 16

and how important is vram for my 1070?
>>60828389
I only have a 60hz monitor though, but since a 1080p monitor has like 56% the pixel count of a 1440p, would 100 fps 1080p be equivalent to 56 fps 1440p, or is it more complicated than that?

I'm building a R5 1600 rig. Got a couple questions:

>Is MSI B350 PC Mate a good choice for a motherboard? It's the cheapest and I'm not seeing negative opinions about it.
>Does it matter what RAM I get? I read there's problems with overclocking RAM for more than 2666MHz or whatever, so I guess I'm not buying anything with higher frequencies. Are there any manufacturers I should stay away from? I'm aiming for 2x8GB.
>Which GTX1060 is the best?
>How much watt PSU for the stuff above?

Is it desperate to pretend a 600$ configuration which can more productive than a 600$ laptop? What would you suggest?

>>60828610
that's not how you greentext, please stop using it.

Yes, the b350 PC mate is a great board.
The RAM overclocking should get fixed soon, a lot of bios updates have rolled out in the past few days for it and the PC mate will receive one in the following days.
You don't need high frequency for gaming though, unless 144hz gaming. It does benefit productivity stuff a lot.
500 - 550w is fine

>>60828618
Unless you absolutely need the portability, get the desktop. A laptop is useful as hell in many situations but in raw performance the desktop takes the lead.

>>60828738
He was asking if a $600 desktop > $600 laptop in term of hardware

>>60828809
This

is there any actual difference between displayport and dvi-d for image quality? all these newfangled gpus seem to only have one dvi-d output

>>60829008

Bandwidth baby.

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Gonna upgrade soon, figured I probably needed cpu/mobo most. But how hard is it to get win10 over to the new system? I have no idea where my win7 key is.

>>60829046
in favor of which one? my monitor can handle both

>>60829060
Nigger you're fine.

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What should I trust, when Aida64 says this RAM is better than that RAM, etc., whereas some actual video game and the 7Zip benchmark says there difference in memory is negligible?

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I'm building a few Ryzen systems soon, but I've been out of the loop. Can anyone give me the rundown on Ryzen and memory before I pull the trigger? How much does memory speed really matter? What's the sweet spot?

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I bought a Zotac 1060 amp because other 1060s were out of stock. Waiting for it to arrive. Apparently it runs pretty hot. Did I fuck up?

>>60829398
Anon, Baltimore, Detroit and St. Louis are in the top 50 most murderous cities because of their demographics, not because they have the 2nd amendment.

>>60829084

You're asking the wrong question. On every front displayport is superior because it has more bandwidth which allows for more colour depth, more resolution and higher framerates (as naturally higher framerates = more data sent across the connection). There is a reason why dvi is a legacy connection.

>>60829398
Ryzen does get a good buff in performance, comparable to a light OC. There are several youtube videos regarding so.

From what I've heard 3000mhz seems to be the sweetspot in return for the money.

Building for 4K Gaming, and general use.

Waiting for Vega & Threadripper, 28 hundred budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nv8LXH

>>60829439
I agree
>>60829498
Thanks, do you happen to have any graphs? Can't find much.

>>60829555
Doesn't the Threadripper have integrated graphics?

If it does, you could technically just get the system without the graphics card first, then the graphics card later.

>tfw the only reason I upgrade my computer is Civilization
This game is costing me $200 / year on average
It's the only game I play

>>60829602
I haven't read anything like that, but if it does I'll probably just wait for both to come out either way. It's easier for me.

>>60829602

>Doesn't the Threadripper have integrated graphics?

Nope. Only the R3 (aka raven ridge) chips will have an igpu. In fact in a broad sense AMD will only be building two chips - the 1800x and whatever the top R3 binning is. Everything else is either a gimped 1800x or multiple 1800x's on a single die or cut down R3.

>>60829612

The first game I played on my shiny new 1700 (paired with my trusty 290x) was Need for Speed II SE - a game from 1997.

>>60829637
>Only the R3 (aka raven ridge) chips will have an igpu.
I guess that's a really good decision.

Since they want the Ryzen 7 chip to be super scalable, they will get better yields by dropping the igp and making it leaner and meaner.

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I wanna join the big bois, I have a budget of around 1100$ what are the best parts I can get?

>>60829491
so that motherfucker at the tech store had no idea what he was talking about

Should I bother to overclock my r7-1700X? It boosts to 3.5ghz on all 16 threads out of the box at stock voltage. Highest voltage I've seen is 1.35v on an Asus X370 ROG board. With my cooler the CPU only hits 57C under prime95 loads.

Is it worth the trouble of OC'ing?

>>60829398
delusional would be thinking the US gov would use air strikes and heavy military weapons on their own cities

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>>60827421
IF that were the last processor on earth it might not look so damaged to you.

>>60829637
R3 is NOT Raven Ridge. The R3 is based on Ryzen, which has two CCXes. Raven Ridge will have a single CCX, and vary from dual-cores to quad-cores with SMT, but will only have up to 6MB of L3 cache compared to Ryzen's 16MB and the R3's 8MB.

>>60829685

Pretty much - there is a reason why dvi is generally dual link these days, it is to overcome the bandwidth limitations. The only connections that matter if you are building a non potato system in 2017 are HDMI and displayport. Generally displayport is the best of the two but there are some scenarios where HDMI is more preferable.

>>60829701

>The R3 is based on Ryzen, which has two CCXes.

Given quad core ryzens exist having two CCX's on R3 makes zero sense as the only way to scale down any further is by having a 1+1 config which with the huge yields AMD are getting such chips would simply be chucked in the bin.

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R7 1700 has been reduced to 300 dollars flat.
With cooler and everything.

I'm going to change my plan and get the R7 1700 instead of the R5 1600.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/d92TWZ

I'm trying to build my first gaming PC but I don't know what the hell I'm doing, please help me finish this list!

So, should I get DDR4-2666 or DDR4-3000 for my budget Ryzen 5 build?

>>60829732
That's not a bad idea. I mean it's still around $80 more than the r5-1600, but still a sound investment.

>>60829410
I have a 3GB 1060 from the same manufacturer. Temps should be similar I guess. Mine does around 35C on idle and gets to around 75C on full load playing Witcher 3. What should be noted is that I live in a tropical country with ambient at around 38-40C and my case has only 1 fan, which is an exhaust one.

>>60829755

2666mhz is the highest ryzen officially supports - anything higher is down to your motherboard.

There was an anon in the last thread who couldn't get his PC to boot. He replaced all parts but it still wouldn't budge. I had the same problem and the PSU was the culprit in my case. I checked it using the paperclip method and it was unable to pick up any load whatsoever. He did say that he replaced the PSU, but you can check, just to be sure I guess. I hope you see this anon

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Last check before I pull the trigger on this bad boy.

Any fuckups in sight?

>>60829747
overkill GPU for such res but looks good otherwise

hello /g/uys what's your thoughts/recommendations on my pc build ? I'm gonna buy it the next couple days

https://pcpartpicker.co/list/dhZNHN

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Three weeks, 9 boards, $1000, and 4 trips to a computer repair store and in the end I am posting here. I don't frequent /g, but 4chan has never failed to help me before.

My build won't start, period. No flash, no lights, no anything. It's as if it isn't getting any power. Yet the paperclip test says my power supply is fine. This is the build:

>EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3, 80 Plus Gold 1000W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with New HDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-G3-1000-X1

>HyperX FURY Black 16GB Kit (2x8GB) 2133MHz DDR4 Non-ECC CL14 DIMM Desktop Memory (HX421C14FBK2/16)

>MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON Amd Ryzen X370 Ddr4 Vr Ready Hdmi Usb 3 Atx Gaming Motherboard

>AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Processor with Wraith Spire LED Cooler (YD1700BBAEBOX)

>Thermaltake LEVEL 10 GT Super Gaming Modular Full Tower Computer Case - VN10006W2N Snow Edition

Help.

>>60829948
Pls help finish my build, I feel lost! Here is where I am at so far.
I think I should get a 1080p 144hz monitor

>>60830028
Are you the same anon who posted a video in the previous thread?

>>60830034
You didn't list a Motherboard. Which one will you use?

>>60830125
No, this is my first post related to this.

>>60830160
The thing is I'm not done with the build. this is just what I chose so far and now Im struggling to pick the rest. This is overwhelming me for.
I'm a novice

>>60830161
Stupid suggestion, but did you try to start the PC using the manual way, i.e. using a screwdriver to short? Might be that the connection from the case is screwed somewhere

Anything wrong with Crucial MX300 line of SSDs?

>>60830180
Pick a Motherboard and you're pretty much done. I am not familiar with the case, so check how many fans it has, and buy some if you need them

>>60829747
Let me know your budget and see what I can do

>>60830223
$1,300-1,500!

>>60830203
No. However I remember hearing the ADATA ultimate SU800 series has '''3d NAND''' like Samsung does, so may be worth looking at if it's not too expensive.

>>60830211
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

>>60829747
you need a mainboard and ram

the boxed version of the R5 1600 comes with a cooler, you may want to try it first instead of buying an aftermarket cooler (tray versions are obviously without cooler, and with limited warranty).

I overclocked my i5-4670k and a friend of mine is saying overclocking will significantly reduce cpu lifespan, is this true?

I clocked it at 4.0ghz with a 1.2 voltage, it was at 3.4ghz and auto voltage. My temps have increased slightly. I'm at ~40 idle, 60 avg under full load, max 69 under full load. This is my first time overclocking.

>>60830028
9 fucking boards? Tell me you tried changing brands at some point

>>60829439
Actually it's more delusional to believe that the US military which has sworn to protect the US and US citizens will magically be a-ok with mass slaughter of US civilians.

The govt has conducted many studies on this and the numbers do not look good for the military. It aint just the outright defectors thats a problem, it's the ones that stay in and leak information to the outside. Also, retired military is a huge portion of the civilian population, and some of the more well funded ones have MORE access to things like range time.

Vietnam & Afghanistan proved a few fuckers with ARs can fuck up your shit.

>>60830253
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

ok here is where i am at
may you also suggest a good 144hz monitor?

>>60829917
i'd get 3000mhz ram unless it's much more expensive. the rest is good.

>>60829747
>>60830245
>>60830275
change mobo to asrock pro4. gigabyte is not recommended. ViewSonic XG2401 is a great 144hz monitor, but you can choose cheaper AOC.

>>60829976
that case is WAY too expensive. and you don't need a full tower unless you're going to pack shitloads hard drives in there. just pick a good mid tower for <80$.

>>60830255
>overclocking will significantly reduce cpu lifespan
absolutely not true unless you feed it crazy voltage. 2500k still run to this day. if you have a good cooler you can easily try pushing it harder with 1.3 voltage.

>>60830255

>significantly

maybe if it runs at 100C constantly

>>60830232
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TwYVQV

Plus a 1t hhd (50$)

You can spend the rest of your budget on peripherals

There you are,

>>60830343
>>60830348
Alright cool thanks, I thought so. Current temps while playing The Witcher 3 are averaging at about 55c. I have a cooler master hyper 212 evo and I think I'm comfortable at 4.0ghz with these temps. I could probably push it more but my gpu is a 770 and would probably bottleneck and I wont be upgrading anytime soon.

>>60830397
good build but that monitor is fucking garbage, especially for that price.

>>60830028
I'm not sure what you've done on your own except replace boards and I dunno quality of comp repair store.

In my experience, bring it down to basics. Plug in your PSU, mobo, CPU, CPU Fan, a HD and your GPU. Make sure the back of the mobo is free from any metallic surface so it won't short itself. Honestly you don't even need that much, basically just psu/mobo/cpu/cpufan. Work up from there.

Put your build in your case (make sure it's got stand offs so it's not touching). Connect additional pieces.

It could be something is shorting in your build so it won't start so take off as much as you can. At 9 boards you should start looking more at your PSU than the board (make sure all connections are well plugged in)

I had an interesting experience around a month ago after turning my PC back into power after a couple months where I got nothing at all (no change from it working beforehand except being off) with no post or anything, I kept it plugged in and tried messing around with the power, giving different rest times from flipping the PSU switch etc. and it finally started working again after which I haven't had a single problem since.

>>60830420
Im the guy asking for help building the PC. Im on my friends PC right now and i'm using his monitor which is the same one you say is garbage,
seems to work well to me but pls tell me why its gargabe. and what else you'd recommend?

>>60830185
nothing

>>60830420
Your going out of budget if you go with 27inch 144hz ips monitor, plus you have to get atleast a 1080gpu for full advantance of your gpu

>>60830263
Boards as in websites, not motherboards. I did switch from asus to msi though.

What is the cheapest and most reliable ATX board to pair with ryzen?

>>60830437
Sorry, I should have said websites not boards. I've already trashed one though.

>>60829682
priority list:
#1 ssd
#2 new gpu
#3 cpu/mobo
#4 memory

just replace the whole thing honestly

>>60830498
Anything from Asus, MSI and ASRock

>>60830446
it was a good pick few years ago but since then many better monitors were released. for example it has worse colors compared to other panels and uses led pwm dimming which may give you headaches.
ViewSonic XG2401 is MUCH newer and has better colors. there's absolutely no reason for VG248QE to be more expensive than ViewSonic.
read review here: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/viewsonic-xg2401/

How much overclock can I expect to get out of a bog standard stick of 2133 DDR4? I plan to upgrade my old Nehalem setup to a Ryzen 3, and I understand that Ryzen gets a huge performance boost from fast RAM. But fast RAM is absurdly expensive in my country.

>>60830185
>>60830263
>>60830437
Took it out of the case and manually started it a few times. Every time the PCU shorted out. Thanks for the feedback.

>>60830343
>i'd get 3000mhz ram
how does 3000mhz compare to 3200 with Ryzen? is there a real difference?

>>60827468
Seems fine, mate. But would you really need those 16gb? It's an useless expense if you are not.

How badly is going Win 7 over 10 going to cripple me?

I have a Ryzen 5 1600, is 2800mhz of ram ok? Seems like everyone is recommending 3000+ these days.

>>60830752
Silicon lottery. Expect 2400.

>>60830712
if i get the view sonic shouldnt i get a amd video card ? also thank you so much for this info. I would've gotten this monitor too since my friend has it.

>>60831128
no DirectX12

>>60831165
I know that. I mean like hardware compatiability.

>>60829582
sorry, I was away.
I found this articles

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_Memory_Analysis/

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3180511/

https://www.eteknix.com/memory-speed-large-impact-ryzen-performance/

>>60829060
Magical Jellybean Keyfinder is all you need friend. It will probably complain but if you do the contact microsoft thing and explain the old machine is dead they will reactivate the key.

>>60829645
The first game that I played after I got my first gaymen Desktop with self selected parts was a browser copy of counterstrike (in 2014 nonethe less)

>>60831197
Windows 7 is harder to install on USB than WIndows 10. Also Kaby Lake and Ryzen don't have W7 support, although Ryzen mobos have drivers. You won't get security updates though.

Best 21:9 1440p monitor?

So I'm building a PC with an i5 7600k. For the GPU should I get a gtx 1060 6GB or a gtx 1070? I am building primarily for gaming, and my budget is around $1000

>>60831303
This whole Windows 10 / Win 7 shitshow of support is really making me think hard about putting together another Windows system. How can a CPU have to have a special OS and how can it not be updated to support literally the most basic and important piece of hardware in the entire box.
Note: I'm using Win 10 on a Kaby Lake (Pentium) system and am pretty happy with the OS itself (except for all the spying and Cortana stuff)

>>60831349
If you have 1080p get a 1060. If you have 1080p/144Hz or 1440p/60 get a 1070. 1070 is a bit overkill for 1080p right now, but if you're one of those weirdos that keeps the same GPU for 5 years get a 1070.

>>60831368
Kabt Lake doesn't make any sense because it's just Skylake+, which means it's a clear move to force people to use W10, but Ryzen is semi-justified since it's a brand new architecture and Microsoft had to optimize for it. If you run Ganoo+Loonix don't bother running anything earlier than 4.10 on Ryzen, for example.

Alright I need to get a PC that will last me for another 4 years before I do another upgrade.

What motherboard, CPU and memory should I get?

>>60831368
>this spiked dick in my ass isn't so bad, I'm pretty happy with the occasional reacharounds I get

>>60831452

B350, AMD 1600, and however much you need.

>>60831372
Alright thanks for the advice mate

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

can you guys help me finish?

Installing the ryzen cooler is hard

>>60831514
>seagate barracuda
um m8

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>>60831425
Sure I can see that with ryzen, I still can't really understand it on a logical level. I bought kaby lake because it was cheaper and I wanted DX12 but how can this array of a billion light switches not be able to execute the calculation I want when the lukewarm refresh can?

>>60831473
S-sorry for - figuratively speaking - choosing the option to live with the gun put to my head. What should I do to get rid of the spiked Redmond dick?

>>60831349
why are you building with an i5?

>>60831534
idk what im doing man

>>60831349
Ditch i5.
Get Ryzen 1600
Throw in a 1070 and you're golden

>>60831528
How so? Doing my first build with it tomorrow

>>60831578
>>60831541
>i5-7600K
There is nothing wrong with using an i5-7600K. You get higher average FPS in nearly every single AAA game out there.

>>60831541
Building with an i5 because of the budget

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>>60831541
>S-sorry for - figuratively speaking - choosing the option to live with the gun put to my head. What should I do to get rid of the spiked Redmond dick?

Okay, now I just need motherboard, PSU and memory...
oh and an operating system... God dammit this is getting expensive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

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>>60831623
https://youtu.be/3VvwWTQKCZs?t=388
Average FPS isn't so important for CPU.

The 6 core Ryzen performs better in frame time and minimum FPS.

>>60831739
>oh and an operating system
You can get an OS for free

https://distrochooser.de/?l=2

Is an I7-6950X worth it?

>>60831739
whats your budget?
>also and OS
download an iso of windows 10 enterprise ltsb and activate it with kmspico

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hows this look guys? just got hella overtime check and about to start buying parts.

>>60831819
come on anon, don't be like that

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>>60831644
yeah probably gonna do that with the next big build. Occasionally I'm running Kubuntu in a VM for fun. I'm not really gaming a lot anymore and if I have to fiddle so much with all the settings I might just go to Linux.

>>60831637
made you an alternate system. Went a bit over your $1k because of the slightly too expensive EVGA card and the case. You can get a 1070 and a decent case for at least 30-40 dollars less (combined) if it's a very strict limit.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YmKy2R

>>60831739
>oh and an operating system
You can get an OS for free

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

>>60831828
Where's your sound card?

>>60831528
I bought the cooler master bracket for my Hyper meme 212, almost threw it against the wall in frustration. I've never seen something so retarded, if you unscrew the nut too much it's too difficult to get it back on the bolt due to two different threadings on the same bolt.

>>60831842
sound card?

>>60831867
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/sound-card/

>>60831830
be like what?
>>60831842
>audiophile meme
>>60831828
decent. the only things i don't like are the branding of the memory, ssd, and motherboard

>>60831893
Yeah I don't like the memory either but I don't know what to get to keep my rig around 1000 and i was going to remove the branding from the SSD.

>>60831739
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8
for the mobo there are many good ones out there. just the usual recommendations:
>having VRM heatsinks is a MUST.
>have adequate IO (or the ones you need, like maybe WiFi)
> have aesthetics that please you (be it simple or gaymurdxdxdxxxddd. this is of course a nitpick, but could affect you if your case has a window)
>check the Fan connectors for the chasis. or the water pump options (if needed)
>check the RAM compatibility. some only support limited frequencies or just for certain RAM (hopefully it will change with updates, but you can never be sure.
also, you can easily cut the costs by going for 128gb SSD and buy a second one later.
you can get Win 10 Pro OEM for around $25USD at kinguin.com without problem. did it without a hazzle.


>>60831813
No. Wait for threadripper and you will have a much more powerful system for the same price or lower.

>>60831842
Wasn't there a Ryzen motherboard with really good audio already?

>>60831819
Budget is $1,500. Just want a quality PC. pls help me out here bud

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

>>60831921
probably the crosshair VI

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>>60831842
>sound card

>>60831921
gigabyte gaming 3 b350

How does this build look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9QFnn

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>tfw still using a dedicated sound card on my main machine
>tfw I actually like it and miss it on my smaller machine

I'm a moron and completely new to this PC building lark.

This is what I've picked out so far for gaming some strategy (Civ and Total War Attila + Medieval 2) and hopefully a little PUBG

CPU
>i5 7500 3.4ghz

GPU
>EVGA 1060 6gb SC

Mobo
>Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H

SSD
>Crucial CT275MX300SSD4 275 GB M.2 3D TLC NAND

RAM
>Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) Vengeance LPX DDR4

Hopefully this will all fit inside this case
>BITFENIX BFX-NOV-100-KKWSK-RP Nova Midi Tower Case

with this power supply
>EVGA 650 W G2 GOLD 80+ Modular PC Power Supply Unit

Budget is ~$800

>>60831938
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQ9sFd
ez. just copy pasted your gpu onto the build i just made

Should I get a QX9650 for my toaster or upgrade to a G4560? Which means 1151 socket and ddr4 memory.

This might belong in stupid questions, but if I install an ssd and hdd, how will I make sure I install the os on the ssd?

>>60832040
disconnect the HDD until the OS is installed

>>60831938
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8
>$1500
I recommend doing the following
>Drop the 1600 in favor of the 1700.
>Get 16GB of >3000MHz DDR4 RAM
>Get a B350 or X370 Board that fits your needs.
>Get a decent cooler because the stock cooler wont let you get that precious 3.9-4.0GHz if that's what you want. you can get around 3.6GHz with the stock cooler at a bit toasty temps.

>>60831974
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9QFnn
psu is a bit overkill. look for something not as expensive.
Get RAM with frequencies to or higher than 3000 if you can.
I have that case, it's cheap, looks good, has a surpisingly good build quality for the price and has good cable management, but the airflow is a bit lacking. Throw in a couple of Static pressure fans, because the intakes are not very forgiving.

>>60832059
thanks famalam

Do card makers not put out any geforce cards with a blower fan? All Quadro cards seem to be blower style but the geforce ones I'm looking at (1060 6gb) have the top down fan.

>>60831992
again, does it have to be an i5?

>>60832130
Seems the best I can do with my current budget as I'd rather not compromise on the GPU or SSD. Seems alright for what I want from the benchmarks I've seen. Do you see any compatibility issues at a glace? Furthermore, do you think there would be any issues regarding upgrading a CPU in future?

>>60831992
Read the OP
NO i5 is worth it right now. Ryzen 5 completely invalidates them.

get Ryzen 5 1600, even the stock cooler is great

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

Anyone have any idea when 570s will be in stock or is there a decent alternatice for roughly the same price?

>>60832218
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8
the 212EVO is not that much of an improvement over the Wraith Spire stock cooler.
Might be worth it to drop the dough on a AIO

>>60832237
6GB 1060
Next stock is end of june, so watch that week
stock dries up in mere minutes

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Someone told me the Ryzen chip doesn't have IGP.
But then how come some of the Ryzen motherboards have HDMI and DVI?

I'm completely confused now.

>>60831992
>gaming some strategy
strategy games are using up more and more cores you know
do not get an i5
even the locked i7 would be better this time around

>>60832262
>then how come some of the Ryzen motherboards have HDMI and DVI?
because the Am4 platform was designed for ALL of AMD's upcoming chips, not just Ryzen. Among the coming chips are the new A-series and Athlon APU's which do have iGPU's.

>>60832262
because R3 and future coming APUs wil have integrated graphics. It is just to have compatibility.
the R5 R7 and higher do not have integrated graphics.

>>60832262
it also has a PS/2, look at that
It has those because of APU type CPUs being compatible with those mobos in the future
this isn't Intel you're dealing with

>>60832267
>strategy games are using up more and more cores you know
>still recommends an Intel 4 core CPU.

>>60832254
will a 570/580 last longer than a 1060? is the difference enough to wait for the restock?

>>60832254
Cheers

>GTX 1060
>msi AM4 motherboard
>fans stop spinning shortly after booting and while i'm in the bios menu
Is it supposed to be doing this?

>>60832251
whats an AIO???

>>60832332
Ass In / Out

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>>60832286
>>60832284
>>60832281
Heh. I've been away from PC building for 5-6 years now.

So I got a bit of a culture shock when suddenly all the motherboards have RGB disco show going on.
I wasn't always like this back in the day.

>>60832320
AMD is using FineWine meme
an r9 290/x is fucking old and a power hog from 2013, yes 2013, but it still trades blows with a 980 if not a 980ti thanks to DX12/Vulkan
meanwhile the gpu it was meant to compete with, the 780ti, is dead thanks to Nvidia

>>60832326
you're going to have to be fast I don't know if amazon or newegg have rss update feeds or someshit

>>60832332
All In One liquid cooler

>>60832332
All In One liquid cooler.
you can get that, or a beefier air cooler. depending on your budget.

that will help you overclock the 1600 to at least 3.8

here's a "cheap" 240mm radiator AIO
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7J7CmG/thermaltake-cpu-cooler-clw0224b

here's a much beefier air cooler
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15

>>60832329
Yes. It's the semi-passive cooling faggotry that has infected GPUs of late. Fans won't spin up until 60C. Set a custom fan curve ofr minimum 10% for idle using msi afterburner.

>>60832355
turn the RGB crap off or never turn it on
the only good LED is the POST status display

>>60832355
Now the new trends are going to individual adressing LEDs-

so you can contol each and every light on your PC... which is nothing short of retarded and expensive in a completely useless way.

>>60832372
i just wanna play dark souls and terraria.
maybe something else idk yet.
i just want a pc in my room instead of using my phone.

Also, should i get a wifi adaptor???

>>60826639
Looks fine though I think you could get a modular or semi-modular Seasonic PSU for similar price.

>>60826721
5770 power usage isn't that high, and it's better than the iGPU.
It's not that much slower than a 1050Ti. A 1050Ti is not a worthy upgrade from it imo.

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PSU came with this cable, never seen this kind I don't think, where do I put it?

>>60829682
1- CPU+Mobo: Ryzen is the way to go now or if absolutely can't wait and you're manly a gaymer then an i7 DELID Lake 7700k/6700k, i5 and lower is a waste
Note/2- if you're going AyyMD get the FASTEST RAM nothing less than 2933

3- GPU: Mid tier GTX 1060 6GB (3GB is shit) or AMD RX 580/480 but they are inflated like a Jew-biter
or mid upper 1070

4- Storage: a 240 GB SSD or more no NVME because they still expensive as shit and it throttles

>>60832419
Since you're getting the R5 1600, you don't need the hyper 212. I had it before going DH-15 and the hyper evo is a pain in the ass to install. Stock cooler from AMD is good enough.
If you're going to get a wifi adapter make damn sure you don't have spotty wireless to begin with. You're always better off with ethernet cables, and they sell that by 30, 50, 100 meters for really cheap.
I wouldn't recommend the 1070 but seeing as how miners are all over AMD right now and you'll probably play more garbage AAA it should be ok.

>>60832419
Okay. In that case just ditch the 212EVO. The stock cooler is great.

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>>60832434
What PSU? Modular, semi-modular, or non modular?
Not all cables that came with a PSU are necessary, some are spares or for fans. Lowest one is a 4-pin for fans. Middle one is molex crap. Top right is six-pin, usually for graphics cards with six pin slots.

>>60832497

Semi modular, so I guess it's just a spare of something I already have plugged in.

>>60832355
I'm new to PC building and the LED lighting thing threw me since I'd never seen it before. I do like the RGB lighting fad, when it's done tastefully. It allows for much better color coordination when building.
Now if only motherboard manufacturers offered all their motherboards in different color combos.
It seems all I can find is black, black/red, or white/silver, especially with the AM4 boards. Why can't I have a white/blue board?

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>>60829682
Ryzen. I think the 1800s are on sale for $300.
Monitors, HDD, and GPU can be reused. Buy a new PSU. Get an SSD for OS.

>>60832531
White and blue? Patented by Intel and the Israeli flag.

>>60832514
That connector on the left is a Molex connector. Not many cases use them since it's an outdated obsolete standard. Molex connectors are sometimes used for case fans which is pretty much the only use for them nowadays.

>>60832475
Alright, I have an ethernet outlet right behind my computer desk, thank god. Any recommendations for a cable or are they all the same basically?
Why wouldnt you recommend the 1070? Is MSI's bad or do you just prefer AMD?
Im up for any suggestions. Are the AMD GPU's hard to find? Idk what this mining is but i hear AMD cards are better for it,.
>>60832483
when would i need it, like, what games would need a cooler?

>>60832534
>I think the 1800s are on sale for $300.
"just" the 1700.

It's still the one with all 8 cores enabled.

>>60832546
I just want a snow and ice themed build. That said, here's as far as I got with what's currently available. Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gzcdTH

>>60832554

Yup, which is already plugged in. So basically this cable is unimportant, thanks anon.

>>60827421
In case anyone is curious. I built a Ryzen 1600 /MSI RX 570 Armor / Asus X370 Prime mobo / 16gb ram desktop a few weeks ago
and so far its been working out well for me. some annoying whine from the mobo and the GPU but I keep the case far enough away that I dont hear it if theres game audio / music playing

>>60832569
>Any recommendations for a cable or are they all the same basically?
Look at what your router accepts, it's probably cat5 or 6. You can't use really old cables.
AMD GPUs are hard to find because one of the cryptocurrencies out there are at an all time high and the Chinese being worse than jews at making a quick buck are all over it. 1060 6GB is good enough.
The cooler is not for games, neophyte. It's for CPU overclocking and for headaches and fevers. Stock AMD cooler is good enough for overclocking anyway.

>>60832594
>some annoying whine from the mobo and the GPU
If you had bought a case with sound damper materials in them you wouldn't have to deal with the shitty MSI GPUs, they fucked up compared to last time when they had the better 470/480s.

>>60832574
WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU BUYING THAT 570
FUCKING GPU IS OUT OF STOCK EVERYWHERE

>>60832612
yeah i learned my lesson with MSI..

>>60832631
I'm going to wait for a restock anon. Fucking minerfags

>>60831833
Thanks a million

>>60832651
It's also partly the fault of retailers. They don't set a buy limit.

If AMD is smart, they would force bundle half the Graphics cards with a Ryzen CPU.

That way all the miners would have to buy an extra CPU in addition if they want to dry out the stock.
That should in theory leave a small number of graphics cards to system builders.

>>60832569
The cooler is in case you need to get more juice out of your CPU by OverClocking(OC), which is increasing the frequency and the power draw, which raises performance but generates more heat.

You don't have to mess with OC, it's just to get more power out of your system. The standard frequencies of your cpu are good enough for almost everything, so don't worry about it.

>>60832594
I got the Sapphire RX 570 Nitro+ And works flawlessly and cool too underload. The fans can get loud at 100%speed but never had to go at that speed since the cars runs at 54C undeldoad wth fans at 60% no noise .

who thought it was a good idea to overvolt AMD gpus
you always have to undervolt them just look at the 480s

>>60832705
>would have to buy an extra CPU
They clearly have no problem reselling stuff on ebay.

>>60832600
i need to plug the ethernet into the router itself for internet? i got a wall jack in my room only,

>>60832768
Still, it would ensure a few more CPU sales over all.

And some of them might think twice and not buy the bundles so others can.

>>60832776
how do you know that walljack is connected to your router

>>60832810
i dont know much about this. but i have cable and a cable box in my room. cant i just plug the inthernet cable into that wall jack for internet...
typing that out now i even doubt that would be possible lol

>>60832838
Try it.
Connecting to router is actually better since it adds a layer of no-brainer security.

>>60832852
now im unsure. maybe i should buy a wifi adaptor just incase.

>>60831623
>there is nothing wrong with using a 4c4t CPU
For $150? maybe. $190+? Battlefield 1, Witcher 3, GTA V and other CPU intensive games would think very very differently than you.
It's shit and get big(ger) FPS drops, has room for fuckall while gaming and get outperformed by a 1500x (& above) at anything multithreaded.
And because it's a K version, it's even more overpriced than regular i5s ($220 + $20 cooler minimum)

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How am I doing so far?

>>60833103
meh i guess? Try to overclock it to 7700k performances because otherwise it doesn't have much going for it

I'm replacing all of my old tech (10+ years). What are good things to know about monitors? Should I replace my router or modem? I'm shooting for ~1000 usd for the computer, and another 500 for accessories. Here's my build so far:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xKhzwV
>Good luck with that 580
Yes, I know, thank you.

I'm hoping to keep it for 5-6 years, mainly for gaming. Any suggestions, or worthwhile upgrades?

>>60833103
Badly

Buy a 1600

>>60833103
The only reason to get an Intel processor is if you only play games.
Anything else and an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 makes more sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5MtsSZJIk

>>60833131
Good luck with that 580.
>What are good things to know about monitors?
If you don't have a specific requirement, perhaps buying an IPS 60Hz is a good idea. Good price value now and you can use it as second monitor in the future.

What's a good basic bitch board for my single-GPU, 1600 non-X no overclocking on anything build?

The only "advanced" feature I'd really like is an M.2 port.

>>60833498

Oh, and 4 RAM slots would be ideal as well.

>>60833498
>>60833512
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157768

>>60833498
Check out this board another Anon linked to me for the Audio quality>>60831951

Apparently it's based on the cheaper B350 chipset, but supports crossfire anyway.
And it has the M.2 as well.

Pretty much the only thing I don't like about the Gigabyte AB350 gaming 3 is the unnecessary HDMI and DVI ports in the IO backet.

>>60833586
AM4 currently only supports Ryzen chips, which don't have onboard graphics... however, AM4 will also support a series of APUs; the video ports are needed for forward-compatibility.

>>60833103
Drop it, get R7 1700
enjoy years of good performance.

Can I plug a fan into the 4-pin RGB headers on MSI boards?

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let's play "where's waldo" but with my cmos reset

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>>60833596
Good point. But some of the other boards from Gigabyte handle it a bit more elegantly.

They only spend a small HDMI slot on it, and have USB connection instead of the DVI.

>>60833615
It's best to refer to your motherboards manual.

Sometimes they built a little button on the io plate.
Mine has a touch sensitive area on the motherboard which resets the thing.

I can get a Ryzen 5 1600 w/ MSI Gaming Plus for $260

OR

Ryzen 7 1700 w/ MSI X370 Gaming PRO for $360.

I bought a gtx 1070 for $430 bucks on a whim, and need to upgrade. I only play video games and shit, but know that Ryzen is doo doo without memory hitting a good speed. Witll that b350 let me OC easy and let me hit 3200? Or worth to chuck the extra $100 dollars to have some extra coars I won't use but for sure be able to hit 3200?

side note: the b350 is a newish motherboard so should hit 3200 RAM

>>60833686
I feel the X370 boards are not worth the cost.

The money saved by going B350 is better spent on the RAM, or bumping the CPU to 1700.

>>60833686
both are good deals.

if you have the money, the 1700 is more "future proof" and has spare power for future games that will be optimized for a higher count of cores and threads.

refer to both motherboards webpages to check the RAM compatibility, my MoBo updated TODAY and the BIOS lists up to 4000MHz RAM (although i can only run my 3000mhz corsair ram at 2666)

>>60828090
Hyper 212 EVO

>>60828090

Hyper Evo my man!

>>60829410
No heat problems with my AMP 1070, but the thing is fucking massive.

>>60828090
stock AMD cooler for zero dollars because it came with the CPU

Will I ever need a full PCI-e slot for anything that isn't a graphics card?
Seems to be the main difference between these two:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144044&cm_re=MSI_A320-_-13-144-044-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144029

I know I could get the B350 on Newegg for the same price if I waited for it to come in stock, but that would require patience I don't have with a breaking computer.

Will they be in stock tomorrow, or seven days from now?

>>60833835
Sound card.
Capture card.
Wireless card.
SSD.

Plenty.

Should I get the Define R5 or the Define C?

>>60833858
whichever is cheaper and doesn't have a window

>>60833882
>Not getting a window
Come on nigga

>>60833686
1600+1070 is a better balance for gaming

X370 isn't worth it

the manufacturer of a motherboard should have a list of RAM that works with it at a given speed- the B350 I got is compatible with dozens of models @3200

>>60828090
The stock Ryzen cooler is not like any stock cooler before it. The Wraith Spire supposedly matches the 212 and C5

>>60833858
R5 is beefier and has 140mm fan ports instead of 120s which means a quieter case, but costs more than the Define C. I'd go with the R5 since the entire point of Fractal Design cases is to be quiet

>>60833882
both have windowed and non-windowed options because Fractal Design are not autistic fucks like you

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>>60833923
The Wraith Spire is decent because it's somewhat silent, and that's about it.
The temperatures won't be remarkably low like the aftermarket coolers.

>>60833894
Fuck LEDs.

>60833939
>4 cores
>2017

>>60833943
So turn them off? You care so much that you'd spend more money to not have an option you don't have to use, that's dumber than LED eye cancer

>>60833961
>more money
Cases without windows cost the same as cases that have them.

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>>60833943
You should see my build.
In fact let me trigger you.

Will my 212 EVO brackets I'm using with my AM3 chip going to be compatible with Ryzen 1600?

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>>60833951
They see me rollin' they hating.

>>60833835
>Will I ever need a full PCI-e slot

It's downwards compatible. A "full"(PCIE x16) slot also works with x8, x4, x2 and x1 cards

>>60833978
Are you color blind?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NPsRXH
How to improve? I thought about making a cheaper alternative to the case, but the one listed seems great. Feel like i could find a better power supply. Wanting to wait on the Vega to see how it performs compared to the 1080ti.

>>60833985
No, you can go on their website and get free AM4 brackets.

On the discussion of CPU coolers, is the 80 dollar Noctua truly worth it?

>>60834000
Green to save energy.
Blue on GPU to keep it cool.

>>60833985
Nope! You'll have to order the AM4 bracket. Be quick about it, stocks are sketchy!

>>60833985
No. You need to contact cooler master for the AM4 brackets. They should send you them for free, provided you have the receipt for it somewhere.

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Does one even need an optical drive in 2017

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>>60834012

>>60833985
You need AM4 brackets.

>>60834012
So, yes then. You're color-blind.

>>60834026
Gotta save the Earth you know.

>>60834034
Rude.

>>60834022
Yes. It's $20 and DVDs still beat flash storage in $/gb and MASSIVELY beats them in data longevity, plus things like being able to rip music and movies

>>60834034

What page do I go to to order AM4 brackets?

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>Purple light
>White cable mod... cables
>Gun steal case with window.

>go on superbiiz to look at RX580s via pcpartpicker
>out of stock
>click thing to explain.
>first paragraph is standard.
The second paragraph though... That made me laugh.
>If an item is out of stock and we do not have an estimated time of arrival from the distributor or manufacturer, the product will display an "Out of Stock" message and you will be unable to order the product from our Website. At that time it is generally acceptable to cry out in lamentation and/or shake your fist at the screen menacingly.
>At that time it is generally acceptable to cry out in lamentation and/or shake your fist at the screen menacingly.
https://www.superbiiz.com/ship_notes.php

>>60834022
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17D-001H-00002

There's no reason not to have the function available when it costs so little.

>>60834058
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/ryzen-am4-x-bracket-for-hyper-series/

>>60834008
a-anyone?

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People still buy AMD GPUs ?

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>>60834034
Alright you made me change it to all red for FPS gains.

>>60834008
>>60834100
>Intel
Unless gaming is the only thing you do, drop that thing for an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and a B350 motherboard with some fast ram.

>>60834105
People wish they could buy AMD GPUs. Too bad the jews got all of them.

>>60834117
basically besides browsing and pirating shit

>>60834112
That looks much better. Now if only that top LED strip wasn't visible. Is use velcro or doublesided tape to stick it to the top of the case.

>>60834105
Are Nvidia cards globally sold out because of the sheer demand? No? Hmmmmmm

stay mad

>>60828471
no thats basically how it works

>>60834131
The end is magnetized. You are supposed to lay it down on the bottom of the case but it is too ugly and i rather it hang like that.

>>60834112
>>60833978
TAKE THE FUCKING STICKER OFF REEEE

razor blade go go go

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DUDE I NEED TO OPEN WINDOW EXCEL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE . MOREEE COREES

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>>60834132
Yea lots of poor fags. Shame..

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LPVrBP

First time building, so it's a bit haphazard. Basically going for a rig that can do some decent gaming (i.e. make games like DaS3 or Skyrim playable unlike my current laptop) as well as programming and various other dumb projects I decide to do. Budget is $1500. Feel free to bully, but in a nice manner

>>60834183
Windows Excel actually loves more cores

>>60834297
The Memory seems to be a bit expensive, and rather slow for the price.

Also I'm pretty much shilling for the GA-AB350-Gaming 3 motherboard at the moment, but it's pretty cheap, and supports crossfire and has good audio.

>>60834297
If you can't wait for AMD stock get a 1060 6GB.
That cooler is unnecessary, the non-X versions come with coolers.
See if you can grab 3000Mhz RAM, Ryzen likes higher freq RAM and 3k is a sweet spot.
That PSU sucks.
Get an SSD.
Sound card is unnecessary.
Wireless kb/m is more of an annoyance than a convenience unless you can find kb/m with a battery life of about a month without recharging.

>>60831199
Thanks, those are great.

>>60834008
Holy mother of ass don't tell me that you are going to build this monstrosity with that high budget

>>60832034
save up and upgrade the whole thing to something that isn't bottom of the barrel.

>>60834297
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mh7ctJ

When's that RAM microcode coming?

Best 1050 Ti? Dual fan open cooler preferred

>>60834568
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RDQRsY/asus-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-strix-video-card-strix-gtx1050ti-o4g-gaming

>>60834297
>1500$ budget
Got you man
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4gDd6

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>>60834298
Yea thats the only thing that does. kek

>>60834298
>>60834611
You're forgetting Fallout 4

Tried building a cheapo PC, I want to get into live streaming games on Twitch or something since playing games alone in my room is getting dull.
I have a used graphics card the EVGA Superclocked ACX which I added to the list. I plan on streaming mostly console games because that's just what I have, I'm not PC master race yet.
I also need to keep the temperature down so I don't have to keep 17 fans in my room trying to keep it below 100 fucking degrees during the summer.
I also plan on trying out linux on this thing, because fuck windows 10 to hell and back. What distro would work well with streaming software?
Tell me what I've done wrong please, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dphn4C

>>60834714
Wtf is this toaster? With budget that low I suggest you to buy a microwave oven

Need help picking out a video card.

System has 8GB ram DDR3 and a Pentium G3220.

Has a GT 610 in it right now. Even 2D games lag at 1080p (things like Bastion).

What's a good upgrade?

>>60834764
Adding that I'd like it to be under $100. Used is okay.

So my gf was asking me to put together a gaming pc for her sister. Her sister is prepared to spend up to $800. I was trying for something below $500, sans keyboard and monitor. The thing that killed the build was paying for windows os.
So can anyone suggest a build that can do some moderate gaming or explain the pit falls of utilizing Linux for gaming and if it's capable. Assume the games involved range from 2005 to today.

>>60834762
If it can stream video games I'm down for this magic microwave oven. If it can't then I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do.

>>60833745

literally all i ever play is total war, and world of warcraft.

on the motherboard site, https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-GAMING-PLUS.html#support-mem-1

How the heck is the Ryzen specific RAM not supported but some model numbers will say like Intel z270 when I google em.

Breddy much decided on the b350+1600 combo, but even with the list in front of me im finding it confusing to pick the right RAM.

help me out /g/, i just want 3200 compatible ram

>>60834764
Either start looking for used video cards or look at the gt1030. If you can find something like a gtx950 or the amd equivalent used buy that instead

>>60834697
>>60834714
obvious samefag, try not to be such a retard next time. First of all, you will have a shit stream without at least 4c/4t. 6c/12t is recommended for smooth streams. Secondly, you need windows to play a lot of gaymes, as devs love DX11and 12. Lastly, if you want a cool computer, buy some Noctua A14s or A15s

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsKCnn
Would a lower Watt Gold power supply be better? I have a few old 1TB drives that I could throw in.

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>>60834364
>>60834381
>>60834554
>>60834608
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PRgDd6
Thanks for the tips boys, lot of details that I should be looking more carefully at.

Also just found out I can still get Windows 10 free through my uni despite having already graduated, so that's a nice bonus.

Thoughts on the Acer GN246HL? It's 144hz and low priced, so i'm considering getting it.

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>>60834694
Okay Todd.

>>60834850
Not playing computer games anon. I also don't see the computer fans you recommend in the parts picker even with compatibility turned off. All I see are Noctua NH models, no NFs.

>>60834878
If you are getting a 144hz monitor. Get it with Kike/Free sync. For sure. Or you are not making use of those frames.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YxkVQV

Probably gonna wait till Vega comes out but is there anything I should change?

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I'm curious. What kind of video card would benefit... non-game related things?
For the record, I'm willing to spend up to $10,000 on this machine, because reasons.

>>60834887
This any better? Does this make anybody happy?
Found the fan, I'm just not used to using this part picker thing.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRwGzM

>>60834956
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/DcH48d/nvidia-titan-x-pascal-12gb-video-card-900-1g611-2500-000
Maybe this would work?

>still no <50$ quake build stories, recommendations, how to's
you're beyond redemption

Is there anyway to test a harddrive outside of a desktop?

>>60835409
Yes, jury-rig something with the appropriate ports and power cables with a usb adapter or some shit.

>>60835409
Yeah. But you will still need a desktop to test it on.

>>60835434
>>60835450

Fug, there's no kinda SATA to USB thing I could plug into a laptop? How does this not exist

>install windows 10 on my new pc since ihave problems with windows 7
>we want your contacts, search history, camera, microphone etc

I mean I can turn it "off" but still, what the fuck is this needed for. I'll try to install windows 7 again..

>>60835464

Nevermind it does

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16812400542

>>60835464
You can get a casing or a dock.
Something like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LS5NFQ2

>>60835540
Remember a SATA to USB isn't enough to power the drive. You still need to keep it connected to the PSU and powered unless you get something like >>60835553

>128gb SSD
>500gb 7200 RPM HDD
>1TB 7200 RPM HDD
All from years ago, any reason to jump up to newer products? I don't put many things on the SSD

>>60835687
It is working?
Does it pass SMART?
If yes to both then there is no reason to jump unless you have limited Sata ports and need more space in your PC.

>>60835566

That's a good fucking point, didn't even think of that goddamn.

Thanks anon I'll check >>60835553 out

>>60835711
The 500GB one, which is the oldest, is caution. Current/Worst "Current pending sector" is 184 so it is dying slowly. I don't really use the 1TB/500gb for anything but games so its not a big deal to replace.

Best cooler for Ryzen overclocking? Do AIO's have any possibility of leaking? Gonna stay on stock for a while but i plan to invest in whatever is the best performing cooler considering cooling technology seems to be advancing slowly.

Finally the parts came here, first time doing windows 10 is it the same deal as with 7?
Download the iso with torrent and use activator?
I heard you could actually get the iso from microsoft's site for free, is that true?
Anyone got a reliable link for an activator not infested with malware cancer?
Why isn't there a OS pirating guide in the OP?

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>Nvidia knew the 1070 was shit value for gaming, that's why they designed it to be better at mining than their other cards

>>60836479
W10 is a piece of cake.
Use the ISO you get from MS site
Search the W10 forums
Because pirating a OS is a nice of cake.

>>60836492
Well still i'd need to activate it wouldn't i? Also i'd pref getting the PRO edition with MS office(yes i'm aware of all the bloatware but i want to see for myself).

>>60836506
>Well still i'd need to activate it wouldn't i?
Go search and find your own link. It isn't hard to find.

>>60836522
I already have, i'm asking for a link here only because obviously they all look sketchy and i'd like to save me some time of trial and error.

>>60836574
>Trusting a random link on 4chan given by anonymous
Come on...

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I just spent a lot of money

>>60836947
>2666 mhz ram

>>60836981
Only 2666 because it slightly increases resale value without costing much more than 2133 or 2400, and these aren't used in my main PC.
2666 is the point where some programs and games don't really improve.

But... shit I found some DDR4 3000 for $104 even though I hear it generally only runs at 2666 on Ryzen and timings are pretty loose. Found some Apacer 16-16-16 3000 for $106 and Geil 15-17-17 3000 for $127. I'll see about getting the RAM removed from the order.
I should have looked better instead of assuming 2666 would be cheaper than 3000.

>>60837076
Higher timer RAM is like K CPUs. The real cost isn't in the hardware itself but rather the cost of the mobo and CPU which can use it.