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iPad Pro vs PC

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How can Windows laptops even compete?
> 120hz display
> 6-core A10X chip
> Aluminium + glass build quality
> solid 10 hour battery life
> iOS raping Android on tablets, massive multitasking support, system wide drag and drop and Finder
> 4:3 Display
> Pen support (20ms, fastest ever)
> Fingerprint scanner
> iPhone 7 camera
> At least 7 years of free OS updates
> Up to 512GB of flash storage
> dat price range
Let's be real guys, on that price range, what laptop can even compete?
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depends on your use case but yes for 99% of the population an ipad pro can switch off a laptop
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>>60826421
>$1200 computer
>Can't download a fucking torrent

Yeah no
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>>60826598
>theft
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>Let's be real guys, on that price range, what laptop can even compete?

By letting me run software that hasn't been approved by Apple.
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>>60826616
>shitposting
>>>/v/
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>>60826421
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>>60826760
>local pajeet attempts to shill overheating, battery inefficient paperweight; also steals quote
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>>60826421
Can it run phpstorm, apache, php, mysql?
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>>60826823
>attempts to shill overheating, battery inefficient paperweight
iRony
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>>60826823
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>>60826839
>10h battery life
>never so much as warm to the touch

I guess you won't be getting the 3 rupees for that post
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>>60826854
>quote from feb 1996
>before he returned to Apple and when he was sulking
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>>60826760
> 4 hour battery life
> 60hz display
> lag pen
> dual core intel
> shitty intel graphics
> more expensive
no thanks, I'd rather get a real laptop over a tablet/laptop hybrid abortion
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>>60826421
>$1200 oversized iPhone
>can't install what you want
>can't do what you want
wew
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>>60826421
>No Clover
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>>60827103
Windows laptop:
> $1200 oversized windows phone
> can't install what I want (Mac/iOS software)
> can't do what I want
lad
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>>60827134
Cool, so I can install applications on a iPad outside of the app store?
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>>60827134
>wanting to install mac/ios software
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>>60827114
It's got its own variant tho. Not as good as clover, but definitely better than >mobile site
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>>60827151
Sure, if you jailbreak it. Jail breaking is free. You gotta pay $50 to install programs outside the MS AppStore, cuck.
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>>60826421
Still windows xp could make more thing iOS.
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>>60827210
>english
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>>60826421
iPad Pro would be pretty neat if it ran a proper OS and not some toy mobile garbage.
With iOS its just a gimmick.
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>>60826421
I hate Windows but I would take it over a fucking iPad any day
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>>60827195
Really? I've never had to pay any money to install a .exe file.
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>>60826421
I'm actually going to grab this when I go back to school this fall, I mean, a high resolution, 120 Hz, 600 nits, P3 wide color gamut display that supports touch and stylus input at $650? Sign me the fuck up.

If I need access to Windows on the go I can just VNC into my Windows desktop at home.
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>>60827134
> can't install what I want (Mac/iOS software)
You can run MacOS on a VM in Windows. Can you run Windows on a VM in iOS?
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>>60827290
Can you run iOS in a Windows VM?
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>>60827328
You can run an iOS VM inside a MacOS VM
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>>60826421
>can't even run an emulator
Lol get the hell out with that piece of junk
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>>60827344
> run iOS
> it's simulator
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>>60827344
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>>60827435
This board is 18+
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>>60827435
> can't run an emulator
> what is Arch64 for iOS
> doesn't even require jailbreak
Feels good to play Zelda OOT on a huge portable 4:3 screen
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>How can Windows laptops even compete?
Better software library, among MANY other things.

>120hz display
A few gaming laptops have this.

>6-core A10X chip
Gets shit on by a Core i7 with hyperthreading.

>Aluminium + glass build quality
Materials known for easily denting and shattering respectively. Good one.

>solid 10 hour battery life
While I am never away from a wall socket for as long as 10 hours, I can imagine there are a few laptops that can offer even better battery life. If you need to be away from civilization for an extremely long time, most laptops allow you to replace the battery for a spare. Some even have hot swappable batteries by using internal batteries as a backup.

>iOS raping Android on tablets, massive multitasking support, system wide drag and drop and Finder
I thought you were trying to compare them to Windows...

>4:3 Display
>Pen support (20ms, fastest ever)
>Fingerprint scanner
I don't really care for any of these in a laptop. I just want to use my goddamn trackpad.

>iPhone 7 camera
If I needed a camera, I'd use my phone.

>At least 7 years of free OS updates
You know, I'm pretty sure you can run Windows 10 on a Core 2 Duo, and if you got Windows 7 10 years ago, you likely had a free update to Windows 10.

>Up to 512GB of flash storage
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84NM9575&cm_re=1_tb_m.2_ssd-_-20-156-155-_-Product
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Is it better than a laptop, a wacom and Photoshop ?
How about the sensitivity and the softwares ?
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>Will never play webm
>Shitty apps, even libre office is better
>software wall, they censor even Shitty pepes
>will never be a Starbucks machine because worst keyboard in the business
>overpriced

IPad pro, is the tool of faggots with more money than common sense
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>>60827851
Better is hard to say but it sure as hell is more convenient than having to lug around a laptop with a Wacom. Apps like Procreate should work just as well as Photoshop if not better
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>>60827935
>>Will never play webm
what is VLC
>>Shitty apps, even libre office is better
Office > Libre
>software wall, they censor even Shitty pepes
good, no viruses and shitware
>will never be a Starbucks machine because worst keyboard in the business
T. never typed on it pajeet
> overpriced
nope
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>>60828098
Never heard of that one, I'll check.
And it's not that bad, I carry my XPS 15 and my tablet in a slim 14 inches messenger bag.
But if you don't have a large table to put al your stuff on, I can understant the ipad is better.
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>>60828101

>needs to open a separate app to view a video
>requires to buy office, a product for Microsoft that runs better in windows machines
>its full of shitware
>thinking someone likes that horrendous keyboard, shit is cheap as he'll and cumbersome to wield
>thinks he can get another credit for his shitpad while starving
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>>60827134
>can't install iOS torrent app on my windows laptop
>owait

The iPad is a blatant attack on non-educated citizens freedom and there is not a single argument that can deny that, since its adbudget is too big to be able to oversee this flaw.
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>>60828098
>if not better
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>>60828101
Sorry if this is obvious, anon but I just happened to notice.

All of your opinions are wrong. No need to thank me, just doing my due-diligence.
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>>60826421
Can your iPad Pro use Photoshop?
Can your iPad Pro torrent?
Can your iPad Pro download programs beyond the App Store?
Can your iPad Pro have upgraded SDD/HDDs or RAM?

God, you Pajeets are so laughable. Everyone in India has a smartphone and thinks that it can do everything a laptop/PC can.
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>>60827265
I bought a pro specifically for school. I can still use octave over SSH so I'm good with that.
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So what can this device actually do other than browse the web, play shitty mobile games and take pictures? Because you could get something that does all of that for $100 or less. I literally do not understand why people would spend so much on a thing that is pretty much just for watching videos and reading some books.

Also how many months of neetbux does OP have to save to afford it?
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>>60827935
>shitty keyboard
>he doesn't have a pok3r hooked to his iPad
Come on nigger.
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>>60828936
>Can your iPad Pro use Photoshop?
Yes?
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>>60828802
You do know that there's better alternatives than Photoshop for digital art, right?
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>>60826421
How can Windows laptops even compete?
> 120hz display
Many laptops have 120hz displays.
> 6-core A10X chip
Mobile trash - Doesn't even compete with laptop i5s.
> Aluminium + glass build quality
Cool, so it'll have dents in it and is likely to shatter if it is ever dropped. Which is quite likely since it's a slick finish on both sides rofl.
> solid 10 hour battery life
This is completely meaningless, if you're carrying around a bulky tablet you've got a bag of some sort and could just toss a battery backup in it. They're dirt cheap.
> iOS raping Android on tablets, massive multitasking support, system wide drag and drop and Finder
Multi-tasking on tablets is cancer and you know it. Also, what the fuck does android have to do with this topic?
> 4:3 Display
Garbage.
> Pen support (20ms, fastest ever)
Yeah... Still inaccurate as shit compared to my intuos pro, you will be laughed out of the office if you seriously think you're doing any graphic design on this thing.
> Fingerprint scanner
Cause that's going to stop a nigger from stealing it and selling it on craigslist.
> iPhone 7 camera
Okay? Are you not going to own a phone anymore or something?
> At least 7 years of free OS updates
"free OS updates" Wait do you pay for these on another platform? Are you autistic?
> Up to 512GB of flash storage
Cool, so I couldn't render anything but a couple minutes of a project on it, not that it could run any of my software anyways.
> dat price range
You mean the price range of way too fucking much for a glorified web browsing tool? As that's pretty much all it is good for.


What is an actual real world example of usage for this device that could not be filled by a far cheaper or far more efficient device? Because this just seems like a kids toy.
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>>60829199
Please go try to get passed an interview at any 100k+ design position and tell them about your leet ipad.

Let us know how life goes on them neetbux btw.
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>>60826421
Oh man i just show this to my mum she's regretting buying zenbook flip, now what do ?
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>>60826421
>that ridiculous price jump for storage
That's some serious Jewry right there.

>6-core A10X chip
A name is cool, but what are the actual specs?

>aluminum + glass build quality
Oh boy here's this meme again.

>solid 10 hour battery life
Sounds good.

>iOS raping Android on tablets, massive multitasking support, system wide drag and drop and Finder
You can do all this on a regular laptop you stupid nigger, things that have been done for years on every other system but now that Apple has done it it's somehow a fucking "innovation."

>4:3 Display
>this is somehow a good thing

>Pen support
Wow, yet another thing that has existed for fucking years but since Apple has done it it's fucking innovation and will revolutionize computing! Fuck off.

>Fingerprint scanner
My thinkpad from 2010 has one.

>iPhone 7 camera
Literally who cares.

>At least 7 years of free OS updates
Until Apple decides you no longer deserve them and want you to buy a new iPad by bogging down your system with bloat. See, "planned obsolescence."

>Up to 512gb of flash storage
I can't even fit half my hentai and anime on that.

>dat price range
Yeah, a $1000 for a computer that can't even do half the things an actual computer can like playing webms and downloading torrents. What a great fucking deal, meanwhile you can buy a $80 thinkpad off ebay that has more functionality than this pile of shit. What a fucking joke.
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>>60829259
Alright, please show us all these laptops that have a high resolution, 120 Hz, 600 nits, P3 wide color gamut display that supports touch and stylus input at $650
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>>60829285
>He works at a place that cares more about what tools are being used than the actual end result
Lol, sucks to be you
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>>60829426
>4:3 Display
>this is somehow a good thing
>Fingerprint scanner
>My thinkpad from 2010 has one.
>Up to 512gb of flash storage
>I can't even fit half my hentai and anime on that.
>Downloading torrents
You must be 18 or older to post on this website
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>>60826421
Chromebook is such a better alternative. Everyone likes using an iPad until they have to type.
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>>60829571
Nice argument.
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>>60829558
>hi, are you applying to the position of car racer?
>yes I do
>but it says here you only know how to drive a bike
>but I am good at it!! How you dare to judge me for using an inferior tool if I can do sick lap times on my bike
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>>60827239
if you hate windows you can work on linux.
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>>60829623
The post I quoted wasn't any arguments either, just a bunch of opinions crying about how he doesn't want a device with an aspect ratio that's actually made for professional and productivity use because his 1TB hentai collection will be letterboxed on it. Am I supposed to have a serious discussion with a manchild NEET who doesn't want a device for professionals because the only thing he uses his $80 ThinkPad for is anime and shitposting on /g/?
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>>60829667
>Inferior tool
The fuck are you talking about? The only thing that's different is that the screen is smaller on an iPad. Do you think someone who can use an iPad for serious design work wouldn't be able to do it on an actual PC?
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>>60829536
Why would I waste my time researching for you? Do it yourself you lazy fuck. And who the fuck is using a stylus on a laptop? Are you completely retarded? Your toy will never compare to an actual graphic tablet and if that isn't what you use a stylus for - Well, you're a fucking idiot beyond helping.

>>60829558
It's more about the fact I'd produce better results in a fraction of the time than you would with your toy.


>>60829667
I really don't think he can understand our point anon, he's likely a retail wage slave or NEET.
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>>60829691
Only two of my points were of my own opinion, good job just cherrypicking those and dismissing the rest because everyone of those other points were perfectly valid and demonstrated by applel products are fucking scams intented only for dipshits who want to social signal.

So yeah, no arguments. Typical of an apple-shill.
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>>60829738
>Why would I waste my time researching for you?
You won't because you know that such a thing doesn't exist. Not a single laptop that costs less than $1000 is worth using, especially not for design work with screens that doesn't even have 100% sRGB coverage.

>Your toy will never compare to an actual graphic tablet
Good thing nobody has claimed it does, dipshit, just that it's possible.
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>>60829717
>The only thing that's different is that the screen is smaller on an iPad.
You could not be more incorrect. The Ipad's stylus pressure sensitivity doesn't meet even half the minimum requirement for devices my job uses.

It is not to any real-world used color standard accuracy. You cannot adjust the screen in any way to be so. The device does not have access to many industry leading softwares or formats.

This is a toy pretending to market itself to professionals. If you just want something to casual sketch on and browse the web, sure it's fine for that. But for that price tag?

>Do you think someone who can use an iPad for serious design work wouldn't be able to do it on an actual PC?
I really don't because only teens and college kids who don't know better would use this device for 'graphic design'. Not saying I wouldn't give them a shot to prove me wrong IE why you bring a demo reel in, but I've seen these kids with cute apple toys. It's always amusing trying to explain to them why their work quality is complete shit and listening to them defend their toys. Guess who we don't hire?
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ipads are PC's idiot

a personal computer is anything that isnt a server and is owned by you

PC's arent windows
Unix and Linux can both run on PCs
apple runs on a PC called the mac

atleast learn the terms before you come to /g/
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>>60829821
>Good thing nobody has claimed it does, dipshit, just that it's possible.
Literal autism right here /g/ents. This is the average apple consumer. So how many months of neetbux this device gonna set you back bud? Also I heard there was a spill on aisle 4, better go take care of that.
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>>60829743
>That's some serious Jewry right there.
>Oh boy here's this meme again.
>this is somehow a good thing
>Literally who cares.
>I can't even fit half my hentai and anime on that.

Wow, great arguments there, buddy.
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>>60829821
> 100% sRGB coverage.
Sure smells like /v/ in here. You lost, anon? Let's see how long it takes him to figure out why this comment is so amusing.
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>>60829848
Again, just cherrypicking. You are such a pathetic little child. Did you daddy buy you a new iPad today and you want to show everyone at school how cool and rich you are?

Let me know when iPads are allowed for use in space.
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>>60829838
>Guess who we don't hire?
Not people from Pixar, that's for sure

https://youtu.be/Frj4I0y-czU?t=18
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>>60829821
I'm not sure if there is a device in the $1000 range for serious graphic design but the price should not be a concern for your job as you A) should not be the one paying for it and B) should be using the ideal tool for your work. An Ipad is not an acceptable alternative. The fact you think it is or would even suggest it is possible is laughable.

It's a toy, get over it.
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>>60829906
>Try out
>Isn't actually being used for final productions
Let us know how far your design career goes while you spend all your neetbux on toys, anon.
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>>60826598
>computer
Hardly
More like a toy
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>>60829838
Not him but you are a faggot.
Companies don't give a shit about what tool you use, they want results.
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>>60826421
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/ipad-pro-10-5-vs-new-surface-pro-2017

Get fucked
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>>60829955
>Let us know how far your design career goes
It's not going anywhere since I work in STEM because I'm not a high school dropout, but keep up the projection, friend
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>itt apple shills make sad attempts to defend their toys as alternative to professional tools

It was acceptable when the macbook was one of the only laptops with a solid battery life. Like 8 years ago. Apple is now marketed as a fashion accessory, not a tool. You kids really don't belong on this board if you can't understand that.

I don't think anyone here has a problem discussing apple products - just with people pretending they are something they are not.
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>>60829259
Full of shit and "it's not viable if I don't like it" -the post.

Also you forgot the evidence just about on everything so your text can be discarded
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>>60830008
Does Microsoft still use N-trig ?
This shit is a direct red card.
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>>60830008
>The configuration with a Core m3 and 4 GB RAM costs more than the new iPad Pro
Yeah no
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>>60830001
Yes, results are exactly what I expect from employees and co-workers. We had a few people think the whole VR trend was going to be a godsend for design work too. Guess how that went? We had people try the surface pro too, still shit (It's in every spec superior to the ipad for a designer btw) This toy will not be used for actual design work. Get over it.

>>60830009
So pretty much, you have no idea what you're talking about on the subject and feel some reason to include yourself. Got it. Piss off attention whore.
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>>60830056
Where is he inaccurate, minus some of it being preference? Because most of what is in that post is correct to my knowledge.
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>>60830023
Tell that to these "professional" larpers which 90% of /g/ consists off.

If the problem is that people pretend something they are not this board would not exist even.

Most of you are just ordinary nerdy guys who fap to animated girls and pretend to be pros. You stupid motherfuckers can't even debate properly with evidence. It's just shit flinging from all parties. This is no better than /b/ or /v/.
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>>60830056
Name one point that is factually incorrect - I know you can't but it'll be amusing to watch you try. It's a nice tablet. But that's all it is, a tablet. You use it to browse the web, watch videos and maybe as a schedule organizer. It is not a creative design tool, it is not a productivity tool, it is absolutely inferior in most every regard for any form of actual work.

If you want to compare it to say, a samsung tablet or something sure. But that wasn't what the OP asked.
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>>60829821
>Tablet with RGB coverage
>It's not like you will be doing any serious graphic design job with a shitty os, low resolution size and shitty 4:3 factor.

People use mouses on this shit at starcucks?

>Tablets will replace computers
Ya this was jobs wet dream B4 dying of AIDS.
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>>60830155
>many laptops have 120hz screen
Yeah in 1500 - 2000+ price range.

> 6-core A10X chip
>Mobile trash - Doesn't even compete with laptop i5s.

Also the previous gen ipad pro was faster than macbook air which had i5


http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/3036382?baseline=231758

I won't even bother pointing out more because I don't have time for this nonsense

In this shithole of board it's always stop liking what I don't like so it's pointless for me to write better quality post
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>>60830146
More meant pretending the device was something it isn't, nice rant tho friendo. This thread is literally as cancerous as people who claimed the oculus was going to become the new graphic design standard. We all know how well that went over.

I'm sure the ipads a fine tablet for some people, it's not for graphic design. Simple as that.
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>>60830089
Hey don't get me wrong I wouldn't buy this to replace my laptop + Wacom combo.
I just meant that people don't care about what you used for the job.
I never said it was better, I positive it is not.
Still it seems like a cool device to pocket and sketch on the go.
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>>60830304
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3067910

Another more modern laptop i5.

>>60830315
It's not for you to decide what can be used or not for graphic design.
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>>60830304
>Yeah in 1500 - 2000+ price range.
And? That wasn't the question, you can also pick them up for more around the $1300 price range now for a 1080p 120hz.

>Also the previous gen ipad pro was faster than macbook air which had i5

What does that have to do with a windows device? I know reading comprehension is hard man but come on.

>In this shithole of board it's always stop liking what I don't like
I don't really have a problem with ipads, I'm not sure why you're feeling so ass blasted. It's just not a graphic design tool and has an abundance of oddly misplaced features.

>it's pointless for me to write better quality post
Or you simply lack the ability and reading comprehension skills to do so, which I'm betting is far more likely.
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>>60830315
>it's not for graphic design
Just because you're too shit at your job to adapt to a different workflow doesn't mean everyone else is. Of course nobody is going to use it in offices while sitting at your desk, nobody has claimed that aside from you. It's for sketching down ideas on the go.
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>>60830390
$>1300 price range
You forgot the evidence/example. Just like in most of your claims.

OP started thread with "how can laptops even compete."

It's not much of competing when it costs 50-100% more.

I'm not feeling ass blasted by your reply but overall quality of this board in general.
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>>60830371
>Still it seems like a cool device to pocket and sketch on the go.

On that - I completely agree. Pretty much only point I was trying to make before some of the shills lost their shit. It's a pretty nice device but it's not up to spec for most actual design work.

>>60830386
>t's not for you to decide what can be used or not for graphic design.
You're right - Because no one in the design industry is stupid enough to implement inefficient over priced tools as a standard or even an alternative. Which is pretty much my point, glad you understand.
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>>60830390
>1080p
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>>60826616
Oh boy here we go again
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>>60830495
>thinks having 10000000 PPI is actually worthwhile
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>>60826421
>How can Windows laptops even compete?
By not having IOS and being proper machines
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>>60830560
Yeah, I'm sure you need a "proper machine" to jack off to hentai
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>>60830572
>jacking off to hentai on an improper machine
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>>60829878
http://www.tested.com/science/space/455604-ipads-international-space-station/

Does Google not work on your $80 Shitpad, or what?
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>>60826421
Can I run Zbrush on it? No? Die.
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>Ipad
??? pressure levels
>Surface
256 pressure levels
>Entry level Wacom
2048 pressure levels

Yeah, lets stop pretending it's comparable to things it isn't and just talk about the device for what it IS nice for. Sure it's probably great to sketch on the go, no ones going to be doing their full days work on this thing and you all know it.

Anyways, specs look nice though I'm a bit confused as to the purpose of 120hz display on a tablet. Anyone care to comment on how we'd even utilize this? And no I do not play video games, so if that's the only reason... (does ipad even have games worth playing? let alone ones that arnt frame capped?)
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>>60830676
120 Hz means less latency when using the stylus
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>>60826598

>How To Install iTransmission 5 Torrent Client On iOS 10 Without Jailbreak

>http://www.redmondpie.com/download-itransmission-5-ipa-of-torrent-client-on-ios-10-iphone-no-jailbreak-required/

No, there's no native torrent downloader, but all you have to do is sideload iTransmission and you're good to go. Other arguments?
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>>60830666
Soon, Satan

t. Pixologic training employee
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>>60826760
Surface Pros make iPad Pros look like bargains
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>>60829285
>passed an interview
I guess you're not writing copy
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>>60830737
Imagine if Emacs was somehow as fast and lightweight as nano.
That's why allot of us like zbrush so-much.
It doesn't even use the GPU but displays more pollys with less lag than blender or Muddbox.
>>
>>60830716
Well thats a plus I suppose, is there anywhere I can check software and file format availability reliably? Most of the shit I'm finding is contradicting one source or another.
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>>60829426
>Proud of having more than a terabyte of hentai and weebshit
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>>60826760
I'm trying to decide between getting the Surface Pro or the new iPad Pro but I don't see the point in getting the Surface because Windows sucks ass as a tablet OS, better off just getting a regular laptop that doesn't charge you $800 for a core m3 and 4GB RAM if you absolutely need Windows on the go
>>
>>60826836
It runs my social networking stuff, why would I want to do that weird virgin shit? What even is all that? Are you right in the head? I saw Mr. Robot, I know what you're like, stay away from me.
>>
>>60831107
Get out chad
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>>60826421
10.5" is the perfect size
P E R F E C T
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>>60827172
What is this
>>
>>60831117
What are you going to do to ME, you beta male? I'll be staying, deal with it.
>>
>>60831313
Beta uprising...
NOWNOWNOWNOWNOW
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>>60826421
>phone operating system
Instantly lost.
>>
>>60830723
>Needing to compile everything that isn't approved by applel.
>Needing a computer and a specific software just to install an app
>Call itself pro despite being full of nannies
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>>60826421
>can't install arch and spend 2 years trying to install de
>>
>>60827172
>>60831279
WHat is this?
>>
>>60828098
Procreate is nowhere near Photoshop.
What do you mean by Wacom? Cintiq companion/Mobile Studio is already a thing long ago, also tablet/laptop with wacom digitizer. And why would anyone want to stuck with Procreate rather than Corel painter, Photoshop, Clip Studio and dozens of free software to choose.
>>
>>60826421
How can iPad even compete?
>Microsoft® PixelSense™ Display :^)
>Intel® Core™ i7 Processors :^)
>Magnesium + glass build quality
>Solid 13.5 hours battery life
>Windows raping iOS on 2-in-1, massive multitasking support, system wide drag and drop and Explorer
>3:2 Display
>Stereo speakers with Dolby Audio Premium :^)
>Full-size USB 3.0, microSD card reader, Surface Connect, Headset jack, Mini DisplayPort, Cover port...
>Pen support
>Surface Dial support
>Windows Hello face sign-in camera
>Support Surface Type Cover with fingerprint reader and touchpad
>Free OS updates forever
>Up to 1 TB of flash storage and 16 GB of RAM
>>
because I do actual work
>premiere pro
>photoshop
>Any sort of coding
>watching anime at 60fps
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>>60827172
>alarm
get a load of this wagie!
>>
>>60834541
>$800 for a core m3 and 4GB RAM
Lmao
>>
>>60834541
For the money you have to spend to get a Surface with a Core i7 you can get both a Macbook Pro with a desktop OS that doesn't suck ass on a laptop and a iPad Pro
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No matter what Apple does, this fact represented by this old ass image is still absolutely relevant.

Surface wins, folks, always.
>>
>>60836328
>>60836419
What? Are you poor?
>>
>>60826421

A 3rd gen surface
>>
>>60826421

>How can Windows laptops even compete?
> iOS raping Android on tablets
>How can Windows
>iOS raping Android
>Windows
>Android

UHHHH
>>
>>60836439

I don't get it.
>>
>>60836328
>>60836419

>Apple shills actually arguing performance per dollar.

Jesus this is fucking rich.
>>
>>60838032
>>60838119
>Only we're allowed to sperge out when Apple uses shitty core m3 processors in premium products, it doesn't count when we do it!
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>>60838103
The Surface can charge/sync/restore the iPad
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>>60838167
>it doesn't count when we do it
Kek Is this /g/ - Microsoft Technology. And the $1300 macbook is sure more expensive than $800 Surface.
>>
>still no OLED
>muh 120Hz
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>>60838167
>/g/ made the Surface
How can other boards can even compete?
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>>60830676
> does ipad even have games worth playing?
online Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
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>>60834541
> what is price range
The surface is just an overpriced ultrabook, it's useless without a keyboard since Windows is half assed touch implemented
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>>60838244
> OLED 60hz over IPS 120Hz
enjoy your pixel burns and piss yellow whites
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>>60826421
Nobody buys Android tablets cause they're all buying Chromebook tablets.

Linux support, Android app support, 10+ hour battery life, and incredibly low prices.

Too late. Google won.
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>>60830737
how about linux version?
I have to use Modo to sculpt but a linux zbrush would be way better.
>>
>>60827195
you don't have to pay anything, you just have to hack your OS
>>
>>60826733
>By letting me pirate anime and play my favorite hentai VNs

ftfy
>>
> 6-core A10X chip
what the fuck?
>in a laptop
were fucking apple..
we do what we want
>yeah encode h.264 4k video with your fucking a10x laptop
fuck this thread
>>
>>60826854
He was right. By the mid-90s the desktop computer market was almost totally dominated by Wintel clones. Most of the original home computer companies like Commodore and Atari were crushed, and Apple also faced oblivion just before they bought NeXT and brought back Jobs.

Instead of fighting Microsoft, he settled a years-long lawsuit against them for stealing QuickTime code, in exchange for securing Office on the Mac. Then he worked on returning Apple to health by drastically slimming down its product line and finally making the long-awaited next-generation Mac OS a reality based on NeXTSTEP.

Ultimately, Apple prevailed by blazing its own trail in mobile, while Microsoft rested on its desktop laurels and was subsequently blindsided by the iPhone.
>>
>>60844021
This guy gets it
>>
>>60833820
Are you saying you're too dumb to use a compiler? Aren't you trying to posture yourself as a tech-savvy person who would be doing those things anyway?
>>
>>60828936
>niche
>niche
>niche
>unnecessary
>>
>>60849840
>photoshop
>niche
Even my grandma uses photoshop.
>>
>>60826598

What da fuck man.

>what is iTransmission ?

my iphone 6s can torrent and i regularly get 5 megabytes/second off my city wifi
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>>60826598
>not having a seedbox + iTransmission + BarMagnet
>>
>>60840641
Is that game even fucking playable on an ipad?
>>
By having being able to let you do more than play angry birds.
>>
>>60826421
>Aluminium + glass build quality
I love how this is always touted as being good.

8 hundred dollar PC and they used the cheapest metal they could possible buy.

Give me steel for gods sake, aluminum is garbage.
>>
>>60826421
I bought an iPad Pro for myself to shitpost and stream shit, and its horrible.
>nothing takes advantage of 120Hz screen
>applel shills think adding a high number and an X to a chip makes it gud
>you cant do anything on it productive other than type up on it and make charts before your memory (not storage, have to point it out because applel fags cant understand computer hardware terms on their own without buzzwords, numbers, and capital letters) fills up.
>10 hours in the best case scenario, aka airplane mode on home screen with lowest possible screen brightness and no applications running)
>aluminum+glass is shit when you dont have a case.
>4:3, not 16:9 or 16:10
>pen support for a pen you'll use as a stylus outside of 2 apps
>fingerprint scanner so applel can steal your biometrics
>fingerprint scanner used for security and not identification
>>iphone 7 camera
>thats retarded, obviously its an ipad pro camera. fucking applel idiots
>>at least 7 years
>5 at max, ipad 4th generation isnt supported by ios 11 and was releaed in 2012. plus applel does planned obsolescence to get all of the goyim's shekels
>projecting that applel doesnt start requiring a fee of $99 for every major iOS update
>>up to 512 GB
>for what? your anime tiddies collection?
>cant view webms
iPad is good for nothing but the occasional shitposting and media streaming
>>
>>60826421
Does mobile safari support webms on 4chan yet?
>>
>>60826421
>1200$
>can't open my old games and even any .exe files
>can't open it's app files without fucking with the os and getting you gurantee void

Yeah no
>>
>>60827553
>tfw you can emulate wii with any controller/keyboard you want for half the price
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>>60850992
It's not even out yet you retard.
>>
>>60849133
I'm not sure what you're doing anon, because your argument isn't strong right now. No matter how tech savvy nobody should have to buy a Mac then compile the code just to download an episode of The Simpsons.

Rethink what you're talking about.
>>
>>60850992
the ipad pro that does 120Hz (and has some of the other features you complained about) isn't coming out for 3 more days. so either you're confused or a really lazy liar, or possibly a store manager did something so profoundly stupid that he's definitely going to lose his job.
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>>60826421
How will people develop fucking apps for this shit if there is no PC?
>>
https://youtu.be/YfJ3QxJYsw8

What did Steve Jobs mean by this?
>>
>>60850992
>4:3, not 16:9 or 16:10
Wow, it's almost like the iPad Pro is made for pros and not for NEETs who only use their tablets to watch anime on...
>>
>>60826952
>>before he returned to Apple and when he was sulking

To be fair, Apple were shipping dull grey boxes in dozens of SKUs back then.
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>>60827770
>Materials known for easily denting and shattering respectively. Good one.

As opposed to the Magnesium chassis of the Surface?
Well at least if you had a Surface and were stuck in the wilderness, you could make yourself a campfire.
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>>60852950
>Magnesium
It's an Aluminium alloy with with Magnesium thrown in.
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>>60834291
TheChan in appstore
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>>60826421
Will it run gcc and/or go?


Fuck off with your overpriced youtube devices.
>>
>>60834307
I would rather the iPad pro over MobileStudio. Less than half the weight, more affordable, and there's bound to app that works well enough.
>>
>>60826421
>being a corelet

Pfft
>>
>tfw wanted to get spectre x360
>read complaints about the screen literally shattering when closed
>tfw wanted to get the xps 13
>read complaints about coil whine and chincam
Looks like I'll have to turn to Apple for a quality product.
>>
>>60826421
can you install windows on this?
>>
>>60854808
>he doesn't want that alienware 13 with the fucking godly OLED panel
what are you even doing with your life?
>>
>>60826421
>thinking you can get any kind of substantial work done on a mobile OS
>>
>>60826421
>120hz display

for what fucking possible purpose? you can't do anything on it that a high refresh rate will make a difference. i have never heard the word "man i wish my ipad had a higher refresh rate"
>>
>>60827064
Honestly as an owner I love mine, only valid beef is the battery life, which, apparently the latest one is much better on.
>>
>>60828101
I'll tell you right now having to use vlc to view webm's here sucks ass on ios
>>
>>60855101
For high speed facebook scrolling I guess
>>
>>60826421
propietary software.
No.
Just no.
>>
>>60855101

OH BOY
HERE WE GO AGAIN
ALL ABOARD THE ASSPAIN TRAIN
>>
>>60844021
The iPad is starting at $329 for the 32GB model, chromecucks BTFO
>>
>>60855101

Less blur while scrolling, and generally smoother motion.

>>60854852

But you can, you idiot. I do it all the time.

>>60853474

It can remote into a cheap networked PC when necessary in order to do so, which is how I handle it. It’s really the best of both worlds: all the advantages of the iPad when I need those, all the advantages of nearly-infinite stationary computing power when I need those.

>>60850992

You’re an idiot.

>pen support for a pen you’ll use as a stylus outside of 2 apps

Procreate, Tayasui Sketches, Notability, Goodnotes, Markup via Photos. Basically anything that can benefit from the ability to draw, sketch, paint, handwrite, or sign does.

>fingerprint scanner so applel can steal your biometrics

Not even close. Fingerprint data is stored locally in the Secure Enclave. Apple never sees it.

>ipad 4th generation isn’t supported by iOS 11 and was released in 2012

Only because of iOS 11 dropping support for 32-bit.

>requiring a fee of $99 for every major update

Absolutely no evidence of that, you’re talking out your ass.

>up to 512 GB? for what?

Well, for starters, it can edit 4K. Personally, I was thinking of keeping an extensive ebook library on mine, for sharing with others. Especially now that Files is around.
>>
>>60856813
>using 120 hz to fucking scroll
man I sure love doubling my screens power consumption to scroll my facebook
>>
>>60856813
>apple never sees your data
>tim cook on data to governments.tiff
>>
>>60857342

>”data” means absolutely all kinds of data at all times

How does it feel to not have two brain cells to rub together?

>>60857312

>He thinks that’s what’s going to happen

Nope, lol, still 10 hours!
>>
>>60857312
It has adaptive refresh rate you retard
>>
>>60826598
>tfw cannot help linux by seeding distro isos
>>
>>60857723

Use a $35 Raspberry Pi hooked up to your LAN at home to do that, where it doesn’t cost you battery life, local storage, or data. Use the iPad for absolutely everything else.
>>
If only someone can figure a way to run windows on that thing
>>
>>60858265

Windows sucks. I advise you to unlearn some things. You may find yourself better off as a result.
>>
>>60858265
> winblows
>>
>>60852702
>iPad Pro is made for pros
Enthusiasts at most. Read the fucking thread.
>>
>>60858628
I have, the only argument made for why it isn't for pros is that NEETs can't torrent anime on it
>>
>>60858668
Guess how I know you didn't read the thread.
>>60829259
Don't get me wrong it's still a very nice toy.
>>
>>60858692
Oh yeah, you're the idiot who thinks what tools you use is more important than the end results and that only your use case is a pro use case. Keep compensating for not being able to adjust your workflow for different scenarios.
>>
>>60858800
>Oh yeah, you're the idiot
No.
Anyway you now admit that it's a worse tool. Sure, a pro can use worse tools, but why should he.
In any case it only matters to a small percentage of people. If you just want a shinier toy for web browsing it's not a bad choice, though for that almost any tool will do.
As I wrote before the target are enthusiasts.
>>
>>60858875
And why do you think your use case is the only pro use case? The iPad Pro is a hundred times better for people like photographers with the stylus, 4:3 aspect ratio and one of the best screens on a mobile device? Are they not pros?
>>
>>60859087
>>60859087
Still and example when you use stylus when it's an inferior device for that.
There may be some case where it's the best device, but I doubt it.
It's good for the money not best and pros go for best.
>>
>>60859123
>>60859087
And I don't really understand the use of that to be honest.
Do you have to edit on the move with something that is slower?
Are you a photographer or is it hypothetical?
>>
>>60859123
So what mobile device would be better for photography? The only alternative is the Surface that doesn't have as wide of a color gamut screen, isn't 120Hz and has much shittier battery life. There are people who use Wacom tablets on desktops to edit photos, why wouldn't a stylus be the best device for that?
>>
>>60859187
As posted already not the best input device for stylus.
Anyway see >>60859172 and what about some powerful laptops? Some have comparable screens (obviously cost more than a tablet).
Maybe it's good if you are not provided any equipment and are starting out so you can't buy anything better.
>>
>>60859172
>Slower
The A10X chip performs basically on par with Intels shitty low voltage m3 and core i5 chips, you have to get at least an i7 to outperform it. And yes, lots of people need to edit photos on the go, photographers travel constantly.
>>
>>60859270
But then they have baggage so they can fit a laptop in there.
>The A10X chip performs basically on par with Intels shitty low voltage m3 and core i5 chips, you have to get at least an i7 to outperform it.
Yes, as I wrote coupled with a good or better screen it would cost more.
>>
>>60859250
>>60859336
4K laptop screens are only higher resolution and bigger size, they don't have comparable color gamut, brightness, refresh rate and 16:9 is a shit aspect ratio for productivity, 4:3 is much better. They're also much more clunky to carry and use on the go when you need to carry a bunch of camera gear and they're much more inconvenient to use out in the field. There's absolutely no reason to get a laptop unless you want to carry more shit with you and you're only going to edit pictures in your hotel room since a touchpad is borderline unusable so you need a mouse as well.
>>
>>60859469
>bulky
Yes, but you can get better input, faster device and at least comparable screen.
>>
>>60859270
> on par with m3 and i5
dude, the A10 is already on par with mobile dual core i7's, the A10X is 30% faster, so we can asume is much faster than a dual core i7, it's almost on a quad-core level.
>>
>>60826421
> what laptop can even compete?
most of them
>>
>>60859514

You heard the man, bulk doesn’t matter! Let’s all carry around 15-pound 21” laptops!

And it’s arguable that you can get better input. You’d have to go to a lot of trouble to get pen input better than what’s on the iPad Pro, and even then, software support for the pen wouldn’t be as robust. Re: comparable screen,

http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_Pro9_ShootOut_1.htm

>The display on the iPad Pro 9.7 is a Truly Impressive Top Performing Display and a major upgrade to the display on the iPad Air 2. It is by far the best performing mobile LCD display that we have ever tested, and it breaks many display performance records.
>>
>>60852702
>4:3
>pros
>>
>>60855327
don't worry, you may be the only owner on this board. most of /g/ is piss poor - and it makes sense. you don't get paid for shitposting from mom's basement.
>>
>>60859763
Yup, hate to break it to you but watching anime isn't a pro use case
>>
>>60860522
R E K T
E
K
T
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>>60829259
>Yeah... Still inaccurate as shit compared to my intuos pro, you will be laughed out of the office if you seriously think you're doing any graphic design on this thing.
Utter bullshit, utter bullshit and you know it, or you don't, because you obviously never used an iPad Pro.
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>>60860522
>>
>>60852702
>angrybirdsPad
>pros
>>
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>>60852702
implying 4:3 isn't best for old school anime
>>
>>60860522
you don't use a 4:3 screen to produce actual content. doing any form of research would reveal that the transition away from 4:3 content happened shortly after the turn of the century.

doesn't surprise me though coming from a community that jerks off to leading people to believe they know more than they actually do.
>>
>>60861872
>you don't use a 4:3 screen to produce actual content
I do
>doing any form of research would reveal that the transition away from 4:3 content happened shortly after the turn of the century
do you think majority of that is used to consume or produce content? I'd say most people watch yify movies in 16:9, people in tpg still sperg out on 16:9 aspect ratio every day
>doesn't surprise me though coming from a community that jerks off to leading people to believe they know more than they actually do.
how is usability of aspect ratio related to apple? if wacom produced something similar but clunkier looking plastic shit with similar price range I'd buy that to draw on but for my suprise apple was the cheapest one to get

also if 16:9 was great to produce content on ms surface wouldn't go for 3:2 aspect ratio, it just feels cramped if you actually do anything and compare.
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>>60861965
>I do
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>>60862014
>appstore
again, what I'm after is 4:3 drawing tablet with a nice price and some quality screen, not apple

I'll say ios helps with me on just start drawing instead of losing time with whatever I do on windows because I like procrastinating tho that's on me
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