What happened, /g/? Why has Billy Gates done this to my start menu?

>>60817734
just get fucking Shell OP, works just the same

have you considered simply deleting the app icons in windows 10
takes like 15 seconds
you spent more time complaining about the problem than it would take to fix
but it's not too late op I believe in you
you can do it

>>60817734
functionally it's no different except the useless shortcuts on the right you never used have been replaced with a bunch of useless tiles you never use that can at least be replaced with tons of shortcuts that beat the shit out of retarded start menu pinning in 7

talk shit where it's due instead of being a dumb luddite who's just worshipping a shitty abortion of an interface that ruined the perfection achieved with 2k anyway

>>60817734
Just install Linux Mint, Windows is shit now.

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>>60817734
Mine looks fine

>>60817734
Who the fuck would use Windows these days? It's a fucking adspace OS. Block ads. Remove windows

>>60817734
Billy Gates haven't done anything in years
idiot

>>60819717
I believe OP was merely jesting

>>60817809
Honestly this. Only thing keeping me on Windows is CAD compatibility.

>>60817734
"apps"

>>60820216
One does not merely jest on /g/.

Install. Gentoo.

>>60817734
don't you get it, it's what normies like, dumbass

>your netflixes
>your facebooks
>your twitters
>your freemium games

IT LITERALLY PRINTS MONEY

the reason why Windows 10 was made this way is because microsoft doesn't want to miss out on that dosh android and apple are making

>>60817778
OS just reinstalls them.

>>60817734
> Why has Billy Gates done this to my start menu?
Actually, that wasn't Bill Gates. That was Steve Ballmer / Satya Nadella

>>60817734

Just use WIndows LTSB. No Bloatware.

>>60817734
"get help"

>>60822736
It doesnt. Been using 10 since release.

>>60817734

I just installed Win10 to dual boot off of and the menu was confusing as fuck for a good 5 minutes until I pinned control panel in there. Its actually all I use the start menu for.

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>>60823187
Good meme

>>60817811
>fine
that looks horrible, anon.

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Nothing to hate here

>>60820742
I like how it automatically installed Minecraft, Candy Crush Saga, Facebook and Twitter apps as soon as I connected to the internet.

>>60817959
I installed it recently on an external drive because I got a bunch of Steam games gifted to me. goddamn there are a lot of ads and shitty programs installed by default.

>>60820236
>CAD
try bricsCAD. It's on Windows, Linux, and Mac. Made by a great company, and really the only alternative to autoCAD. It holds up well.

>>60823374
pretty.

>nothing to hate
well it's windows. I hate it

>>60823418
>well it's windows. I hate it

Yeah. Funny how idiots literally use non-free software as though it's something to be proud of

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>>60823374
this left part of it looks like ass

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>>60823482
You can add more shortcuts, you know.

>>60817734
just install classic shell, behaves exactly like win7 menu and is customizable

>>60823699
unfortunately, any type of Windows customization like this breaks your system, especially when it tries to update.

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>>60817811
>Giant blue boxes with regular sized icons in the middle
What did the UI designers mean by this

>>60823374
What is that blue pixelly icon in your start menu, anon?

>>60823766
This shit fucking bothers me on win10.
They should've had the box color match the closest color of the icon, like how win7 did when you mouse over the taskbar.

>>60817734
windows 10 start menu is waaay better than win7 old pice of shit

>>60823739
get windows 10 enterprise ltsb. turn off updates in group policy. profit. i only update once every 2 months and never had problems in classic shell.

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>>60817734
What are you talking about, retard?
Are you high again?

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>>60817734
billy g is too busy enslaving niggers in africa with his piss water

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>>60817734

it's so different, jeez

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>>60817734
Bill retired.

Win 8 and 10 are post Bill.
Win 7 is Bill

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is this the new desktop thread?

>>60824796
your wallpaper made me depressed and suicidal
thanks anon

How do I get rid of ads and spyware in NSA/NT+Windows 10? I've done the same thing and installed Arch on a separate partition and I'm using it as my main OS, but I've kept Win10 for muh gaymes. I've also noticed that Win10 is sluggish as dick compared to Win7, and my new laptop is god-tier compared to what I had before.

>>60817734

Have you tried changing your DE?

>>60817734
>Implying the start menu was ever good
Your brain damage may still be reversible. Switch to an OS that lets you use a keyboard driven launcher that strips out the legacy menu garbage. Alfred on OSX is one of the few things Apple actually got right, and there are a few clones of it for Linux.

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>>60817734
All those replies, none posted Microsoft's own answer to OP's question:

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/tag/start/

tl,dr: Big icons in a fullscren launcher is more efficient than a smaller scrollable list for both touch and mouse thanks to Fitts' Law. Pic related.

You may not agree but it answers:
>Why has Billy Gates done this to my start menu?

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>>60824770
Coincidentally Windows 7 was the last one I found acceptable.

The fact that 10 unironically uses the term "app" makes me want to throw up, but it's sadly the least of its problems.

>>60817734

this is really fucking sad

>>60825026
how old are you? programs have been called apps since the beginning of fucking computers

>>60825010
>brainlets not just pressing the windows button to open the start menu

>>60817778
Winfags just want solutions out of box.

>>60823739
never had any problem with updating on my pc running classic shell and qttabbar.

the only thing that an update has ever broken for me is wireless printing through some fucky netgear version of smb

>>60824131
paying for a start menu lol
>>60823977
this
>>60824621
this is more or less the only reasonable option, but i still get ads and cortana logging everything i type, so theres still a reason to use classic shell
>>60825010
its still more efficient to type WIN+R <programname>>
or you could just put it on the fucking desktop so you dont have to go through the sxtra step of opening up the start menu

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>>60817734
Bill Gates...

>>60823187
I switched to win 10 like 3 weeks ago. First thing I did was uninstall Skype and OneDrive.

Sitting there playing POE and a notification comes up: "Skype is almost finished installing" "OneDrive is almost finished installing".

Yeah they reinstall themselves. There is no truth to what you said.

>>60825365
>paying for a start menu lol
Classic Shell is a freeware application. Am I missing something?
>lol
back at you

>>60825401
>Am I missing something?
its ugly as shit

>>60825453
whoa dude, it's like you're opinion.
I'm using custom skin with custom color. By default you got the exact recreation of Windows 7 start menu.

>>60825365
>its still more efficient to type WIN+R <programname>>
Then it doesn't really matter what the start menu looks like.

>or you could just put it on the fucking desktop so you dont have to go through the sxtra step of opening up the start menu
Clicking on the show desktop button or pressing win+d is the same effort as opening the start menu.

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Why do you bother with the start menu?

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>>60825598
I only use mine for maintenance.

>>60825478
Which was also garbage. Enjoy your baked in spyware, brainlets.

>>60825623
OH GOD MY EYES

>>60825598
>>60825623
Cos that looks disgusting

>>60825659
Be glad I took it out of high contrast mode. kek.

>>60825638
>get proven wrong
>damage control
enjoy you're no games, linux permavirgin.

>>60825598
>>60825623
The doctor told me i had a chance to outlive the cancer, unfortunately your post just amplified the chance of my death.

>>60825598
When you have more icons than what you can fit on the screen, the start menu allows you to scroll, unlike the desktop.

>>60825623
>>60825598
Jesus christ

I like 7 and never used 10.
Is there any good reason to "finally" make the jump to 10 for this new pc I'm about to build tomorrow?
Or perhaps a better way to put it, any reason not to stay on 7 for the next 3 years or so?

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>>60825707
Why scroll when I can type.

>>60825792
Then why have icons in the desktop at all?

>>60825800
Simplicity.

>>60825783
I've been on it a while and I can say it's easier on the eyes(by default) and has much better multi-monitor support. Meaning I don't get any random lag running a game in one screen and any video on the another like with 7.

That's about the only good things I can say about it. I feel more locked down than ever.

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>>60825702
Enjoy being wrong, shill

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>>60817734

>>60825800
Also I like to screw around and make people wonder what the fuck I'm thinking.
I'm out and i hope you got a kek out of it.

>>60817734
done what, made it better?

>>60822736
it doesn't pin it back to the start menu, idiot.

>>60823685
oh wow i didn't!

>>60825842
>wow 5% of windows gaymes are not available with 60% degraded performance on my linux NeetOS, WoW!
get out, stupid shitposter.

>>60824796
Post pape.

>>60825992
now*

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>>60826007

>>60825992
no video game is worth having to use your shitty OS, winfat

>>60825992
>Linux doesn't have Ubishit garbage or cowadoody
>He thinks that's a point in favour of Windows

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>>60826028
Pape is wallpaper. What you posted is pepe.
Fresh off the boat?

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>>60826069

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>>60826107
Never understood the mentality of damage control.
Just let it go, we are all anonymous.

>>60826065
Enjoy your 3% desktop share, linux virgin.
I bet you also wear fedora and tell everyone around you how much of a hacker you are. Pathetic.
>>60826065
Properly configured Windows is the best client OS, just like properly configured Linux is the best server OS. Deal with it.

>>60825783
Virtual desktops, search bar on the registry, ubuntu on windows, better high-dpi support and DirectX 12 are the main things off the top of my head.

>>60826065
right ill just play DOTA instead....................

>Comparing bad design to worse
On NT6.0 classic start menu is still available, but it was removed from NT6.1.
The new (Vista) start menu? Program list expand INSIDE the menu and is not resizable. What the fuck was the UX team doing?

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>>60817734
<3 Windows 7

>>60826260
Honestly? the UI in 10 is better

>>60825182
there are modded windows versions that have all of that + removed spying crap and debloated winsxs folder

>>60826260
>That overlapping start ribbon
What the fuck were they thinking? It overlaps on Vista/Server 2008 too, but only little.

>>60826221
>What the fuck was the UX team doing?
Again, already posted from Microsoft themselves:
>>60825010
>There were also problems with traversing All Programs on Window XP. It wasn’t uncommon to have your mouse “fall off” the menu and then you’d have to restart the task all over again (this was especially challenging for laptop customers who used track pads or for those with limited dexterity). It was also difficult to fit all this UI into lower resolution screens. Vista addressed this with the introduction of a single menu and a tree control that required fewer acrobatics with the mouse. However, All Programs still felt cramped, since the menu required a scroll bar (fig 2). The Start menu was already starting to feel full.

>>60825365
>you could just put it on the fucking desktop

lol no

>>60825365

>this is more or less the only reasonable option, but i still get ads and cortana logging everything i type, so theres still a reason to use classic shell

run Shut Up 10

>>60826328
So in a word, you have to take retards into account when doing UX design.
I have not experienced this 'problem' with the classic start menu (NT4.0 and 95 onwards) or with the XP start menu, not on lower resolutions (640x480) even.

And they the call the inside expanding, non-resizable menu a solution?

>>60817959
gaymen and compatibility for certain programs. KVM+QEMU and GPU passthrough handles that just fine for me. Passing the GPU back to host is a bit of a pain though hope wayland adds GPU hotswapping soon.

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>>60826289
I dual boot them (7 and 10LTSB2016) and 10's UI is garbage.

>>60826322
You can make it not overlap. I personally like it though.

>>60826413
wow dude you sound hardcore

>>60826433
>dual boot

gross

>>60826433
By using the 'large buttons'? Or non-signed theme?

>>60826452
Well, not really a dual boot config, I have two different SSD's for them.

>>60826472
By not using small taskbar, which is the default. You can change the start orb without using unsigned themes though.

It is 2017 and Classic Shell is absolutely based

>>60826191
>3% desktop share
>Things can only be popular if they're good
>CoD is good
>Bioware is good
>AGoT is good
>Marvel movies are good
Windows user logic, everyone

>>60826577
you sound like a real hit at parties

>>60826413
I was too young at the time but I do remember having a problem with that. If a program was too deeply nested, or you have too many programs, and you were hovering an entry and the mouse "fell off" it would close the entire menu and you would have to navigate all the way again. Searching for hover menus on google will get you a ton of pages about why it's bad design, although a lot is about mobile touch browsing.

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what ever happen to windows 2000

>>60826629
This. All Proggys was always a hassle, it's done pretty well in 10, but I never have to use it anymore unless I'm pinning new installs basically.

>>60826629
>>60826680
Yeah, I used to have custom folders put into the programs menu, whether the programs were games, audio tools, cd burning tools, video tools (encoders/players), and so on and on.

>>60826577
>m-my gayming taste is superior! I'm better than you!
*tips fedora*
if you got iGPU linoox and it's shitty opengl rendering is a deal breaker. While under W10 and DX9 you can play cs:go at high settings and 30FPS framerate you'll get around 10 FPS at everything set to minimum under linux. Not to mention absolutely SHITTY nvidia/amd drivers.

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i don't know what you're talking about OP

>>60826619
i only interact with other humans over mailing lists

>>60826798
and yet you *don't* like GoT???

>>60826779
That font rendering. It hurts

>>60826855
>underage cleartype babby

>>60826577
>things are bad if they're popular
hello mr. hipster
anyways most linux compatible games are indie trash that noone plays

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>>60826673
>Win2000 is my preteen shit
>Win 98 is my childhood
>Vista is my teen hell
>Win 7 till now

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I'm not even using the start menu, except to start programs.
So win button -> type first few characters of the name -> enter

>>60827095
>indie trash
Good goy

>>60817734
desu the search function is pretty fucking great in win10, I just press the windows key and type the first 3 letters of the program I wanna start, hit enter and thats it.

A lot faster than searching and klicking icons.

>>60827095
>aaa gayms
Enjoy your fee to pay microtransactions riddled shit, faggot.

>>60827322
>buying games

>>60817959
I need windows for my gayems

>>60823374
>playing lol of lesbians
>nothing to hate
pick one

>>60817734
Bill didn't work at Microsoft when Windows 7 was released in 2009. He left when a project, that took over 6 years of work, called Longhorn aka Windows Vista failed.

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It's quite obvious: Apple happened

The hypothesized asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs: 60 million BC
Apple's enormous influential impact on society: 2008

Both impacts have in common that they changed the world. Apple is the womb that gave birth to the '10s

It seems to me that many other companies weren't created through ambition and don't have a distinct philosophy that drives it; tldr: unlike Apple they don't love their own products (or believe in them), so of course there is a correlation with that and their outcome

>>60825088
"programs have been called apps"
>programs
Programs have been called programs. I think you knew what he meant. You even said program without him saying it even once. Not only that, but application being shortened to app is a symbol of a different era, one ruled by normies and mobile operating systems.

>>60825992
That's # of games in his own library that are supported. I believe over half the entire steam library is supported now.

How to right click on the Windows icon and window 10 becomes easier to use

>>60823374
>reddit
>>>/reddit/

>>60822911
underrated

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>tfw still prefer the old Windows classic theme
>only use a modern dark theme for ultimate eye comfort

>>60827613
But apple didn't start in 2008 it started in the 70s

>>60823325
hey shitposter go back to reddo lying you faggot

>>60823394
just installed win 10 pro newest build, no apps here, what the fuck are you talking about.
there's plenty to criticize but these retarded linux zealot lies are pretty sad man.

>>60827613
Hey, Microsoft could have chosen to make a new OS not compatible with win 3.1 crap and separated business and consumer versions of windows, but no fuck that. Let's make it as complicated and terrible as we possibly can even though win 7 magically won't run on new processors because "that silicon wasn't made with today's operating systems in mind".

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>>60817734
>What happened, /g/?
>Why has Billy Gates done this to my start menu?

You can get rid of that crap. It's not that hard.

Remove the times and it's literaĺy the best start menu

>>60828173
Nigga stop lying. You install windows 10 and first thing you get is office, minecraft ,candy crush and skype

>>60823374
How you dun made the taskbar clear and obscure like that, anon?

Did you just wake up from as coma??

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I think it looks fine. The only thing I would change about the UI is the icon background of the apps. I dont see why they have to have squared backgrounds with set colours

>>60827674
>normies
post disregarded

>>60823251
just win+x or right click the start icon?

>>60817811
s***t***n, u?