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She was using TOR

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Thor is a faggot anyway
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>hiding from the US government on a US military network
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nuffin 2 hide
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>>60815886
>one backdoored by the agency your company was working for
wew, women zero, computers one
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>>60815832
what did """she""" do?
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>>60815911
leaked a document to the press by mailing out a printout which was bit-encoded with information telling the NSA who printed it, when, and where

then she mailed it to glenn greenwald without washing it through a copier, and he scanned it high rez enough for the bit pattern to be recovered and she was arrested one hour later

then she squealed and is now telling them everything she knows
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Should've used Tor instead of TOR
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>>60815941
*fake document, it probably turns out, at that

they made up some bait that anti-drumpf tards would bite at
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>>60815941
>when a media outlet outs their source
kek everytime. same thing happened with murderin mcafee and vice
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>>60815832
She was caught when she was PRINTING at her workplace.

ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUSLY THIS TURBORETARDED?
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>>60815952
Nah Tor is backdoored use tOR
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>>60815955
proof that its fake?
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Only 6 other people printed the document she leaked. She would have cracked under pressure from people with printer logs in hand anyway.

She used her Gmail email when she mailed the document to the interncept.

She didn't know about the hidden yellow dots for identification on the document she printed which also screwed her.

As far as I know, she didn't use Tor. She had no reason to. She fully expected to get caught.

On another note; 'Reality Winner'.. really? This is all just a simulation I'm living in, isn't it..
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>>60815911

Revealed Russia hacked some computers belonging to election officials in charge of voting machines and then spread malware from their email addresses before the presidential elections. And that the NSA not only knew about it, but were doing nothing.
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>>60815991
This.

OP is a liar.
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>>60815997
man, what's the point of the civil liberty violations if they aren't gonna do shit?
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9/10. Would interrogate sexually.
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Snowden warned us months ago about the potential for an escalating war of attribution with regards to hacking. It's currently happening right now.
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>>60816067

Yup. It's going to be the first war fought with out shooting a bullet.
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Every case of someone being caught who was using tor was never because authorities cracked tor, but because of poor opsec.
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>>60816067
hackers are the new terrorists you mean?
yeah i would agree if so, more people getting dependent on technology, easy to make a new boogeyman out of hackers, both foreign and not.
better start loading up on those loonix isos before they ban them
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>Tor is secure meme
lol
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>>60815832
Cute. I wish I was in that pod.
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>>60816112
>loonix
it has backdoors, openbsd is a good bet but plan9 or 9front are the future as far as people see it
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>>60816097
Like they are going to reveal the fact they broke down TOR and all it took was a million dollars and some Carnegie-Mellon nerds.
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>>60815981
proof that it's true?
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>>60816017
why would you expect them to serve the public? they have too much power for that.
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>>60816205
not an argument
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>>60816205
>404 argument not found
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>>60816160
why does it seem like they get most of their help from that school in particular?
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>>60816160
First, you have no proof of this claim that they somehow "broke" tor.

Second, the encryption keys used on tor are practically unbreakable on any human time scale let alone trying to break into the multiple keys used for tor connections.

Third, every case of someone being caught who was using tor was a case of poor opsec, i.e., logging into your personal accounts, using the same name, posting images of your room, opening childporn.jpg.pdf, etc.

Fourth, even if some government entity controls some tor nodes they don't have nearly enough information to tie any connection to any one person given that thousands of people will be using said node on a daily basis, and since there are millions of tor nodes half the time many connections might not even run through said government node.

Fifth, go away FBI and/or Chink intelligence, I'm sorry people are escaping your surveillance grip with tor and you're desperately trying to shill the meme that tor is insecure.
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>>60816283
stop shilling for tor, it's busted, backdoored, etc, and this has been known for years
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>>60815832
Fuckk
She was arrested and charged?

So is the election fake?
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>following normie drama
Literally had to read the thread to see what this is about and I still don't give a fuck about this slut.

Honestly lol if you find any of this or the Edward Snowden shit interesting or important.
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Remember girls, go to Karlie's YouTube to learn about cyber.
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>>60816297
Again
>no proof
>effectively the same argument from >>60816160 just worded differently that I already addressed in >>60816283
Every "failure" of tor was never tor itself, it was the idiot behind the keyboard who didn't practice good opsec.

Nice argument FBI.
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>>60816231
>>60816244
not an argument
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>>60816205
The burden of proof is on you
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>>60816255

Because the Plaid Parlament of Pwning won Defcon CTF 3 years in a row. Feds saw the talent, and those little nerds wouldn't turn down the money or the opportunity.

>>60816112
No. Not at all.. Attritbution = being able to say with 100% confidence WHO hacked you. Before it wasn't exactly possible, but nowadays the Russians just don't give a fuck. Combined with the fact that some careless NSA TAO operator left a shitload of nation-state-level tools/weapons/files on a server that the Russians compromised and are now throwing it in our faces; see Shadow Brokers.

Everything Snowden said is coming true.
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>>60816353
Hidden Services are a niche that no one cares about and exits are all fucked.
Number of reasons to use tor: 1 (going to jail)
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>>60815991
>On another note; 'Reality Winner'.. really? This is all just a simulation I'm living in, isn't it..

hehe welcome to my world kid
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>>60815832
hopefully they execute her for treason.
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>>60816148

GELNDA RISING
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>>60816319
>normies
>caring about this
so out of touch you are
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>>60816383
Cool, again, there are millions of tor nodes around the world and even if the FBI controlled some of them they still wouldn't have enough information to connect any connection to any person.

I recommend watching these videos into tor since you obviously don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.

Onion Routing - Computerphile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRYzre4bf7I

How Tor Users Got Caught - Defcon 22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G1LjQSYM5Q
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>>60815941
>be part of intelligence community
>be unaware of printer microdots
dafuq
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>>60815911
violated a dept of defense contract under top secret level clearance
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>>60815941
you left out the fact that she was only one of six people to print the document as well.
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>Tracking dots are usually invisible to the naked eye under normal light. They are tiny and light yellow which makes them hard to see against the white of a page. They are usually printed across the entirely of a page -- even the parts where that are otherwise blank. They are present in both color printers and copiers but do not show up in pages printed in black-and-white mode.
>do not show up in pages printed in black-and-white mode
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>>60816434
>millions of tor nodes
I do use tor for toy uses but really if you're going to spread that much misinformation you're doing the project a massive disservice. If you want to help Tor, you need to shut the fuck up because you are a fucking dumb shit.
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>>60816441
You'd be surprised how many secretaries and security guards work "in the intelligence community", with clearance and access, and have no IT knowledge or experience at all. And for those people, it's best they not know what microdots are and what they do. Case in point, this woman.
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>>60816502
Excuse me if I was wrong on a hyperbole. Everything else I've stated is factual and have yet to see a single argument that isn't along the lines of
>tor is insecure because I said so
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>>60816441
millennials, they were 2 when that was news on slashdot
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>>60816547
How old are you?
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>>60816531
no you've been given a laundry list of theoretical vulns which were pursued by researchers to some degree or another, which you ignored as usual

this government funded research into vulnerabilities in a government-funded bit of software being sold as secure and SHILLED as secure couldn't possibly go secret after they are made into effective weapons against Tor could they?

you lack imagination and the one thing these past few years have proved is that if (((they))) *CAN* do it, they will
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>>60816547
I'd wager at least 95% of /g/ users are millennials, anon.
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>>60816552
old enough to have fucked your mom when she was cute
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>>60816531
Tor can't mask traffic shape or metadata which are the two most useful things to law enforcement. Telling people to use Tor so they can be safe is pure evil, Tor is only as safe as you allow it. The more the powers that be marginalize Tor the less useful it becomes.
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>>60816493
Modern color printers have no such thing as B&W printing. They're always using a tiny bit of ink from each of the color cartridges, because otherwise the nozzles would get clogged.

>>60816547
I'm 25 and remember when this was news.
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Ok shut the fuck about Tor now, armchair experts pulling the first results off google you can find.

She wasn't using Tor. She did this knowing she would be caught. Why else did she use her fucking Gmail when emailing the news publication.
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>she didn't use tails
>she didn't use a torrented copy of windows 7
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>>60816567
>you've been given a laundry list of theoretical vulns which were pursued by researchers to some degree or another, which you ignored as usual
I have? Well then, feel free to share them then because all I've seen is
>tor is insecure I know this because I said so

>this government funded research into vulnerabilities in a government-funded bit of software being sold as secure and SHILLED as secure couldn't possibly go secret after they are made into effective weapons against Tor could they?
Tor is open source, you're more than free to audit the code for yourself as I'm sure has already been done by hundreds of users and by the lack of noise it seems there's nothing and you're sperging out about nothing. Hell, you're also free to go and fork it too if you want.

>you lack imagination and the one thing these past few years have proved is that if (((they))) *CAN* do it, they will
If "imagination" is the only argument you have against tor being insecure then I think I'm done here.
>IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND!
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>>60816636
>replying to a bait thread with a serious non-troll reply
you have a lot to learn newfuck
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>>60816653

Bait thread that had some real discussion going on before Tor sidetracked it.
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>>60816644
openssl was open source but that didn't change that it's a steaming shitpile, alas that's not the problem. the tor network is the problem not the tor software.

you should suck on a dick and calm down a bit, then get back to us.
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>>60816592
Which again, comes down to opsec and not that tor is insecure. I've never stated tor is a silver bullet to anonymity, in every post I've stated that how effective tor is comes down to how intelligent the user is.
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>>60815941
so basically it was another side-channel discovery, and nothing directly through Tor?
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>>60816683
Isn't requiring super opsec antithetical to a general purpose privacy network for the common man?
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>>60816588
so like, 60+?
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>>60816680
Openssl has since been patched and fixed. The same applies to tor, if something is found it'll be fixed on the spot.

>you should suck on a dick and calm down a bit, then get back to us.
Well now that you've been reduced to ad hominems I can say that yeah, we're done here.
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>>60816704
>super opsec
I didn't realize doing simple things like not opening childporn.jpg.pdf, removing metadata from images, using bridges, not using the same handle across the web, and logging into accounts you've made over tor over your regular IP was "super opsec."
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>>60816711
>Internet Arguments on 4chan, sponsored by the Tor Internet Defense Force
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>>60816728
They're thick as fuck, it's almost as bad as a systemd thread.

Systemd is a backdoor too by the way.
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>>60816728
Hey, call me when you have an actual argument. I'm still waiting on that "laundry list" of "theoretical vulns" you spoke of.
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>>60816733
Tor shills are worse than systemd shills by orders of magnitude.
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>>60816749
They can and do both eat dicks like sausages though.
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>>60816114
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>>60816749

They protest a little too hard.
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Why should I use Tor when I could pay for a log free VPN? I mean you get what you pay for, who the fuck would use a free service? It's a fucking botnet.
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>>60815832
>not remembering the content of the document
>not encrypting said content,writing it in groups of 5 digits on highly combustible paper
>not using dead drop devices made to look like dog turds

modern spying is pleb as fuck
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>>60816794

Modern spying is boring as fuck.
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>her name was Reality Winner

seriously, what the fuck, man
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>>60816781
Tor has some advantages over a VPN but in general either or is fine so long as you use proper opsec.

Tor is a free service but it's free as in freedom and the network is entirely maintained by the community rather than by the tor project itself.
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>>60816822
>Reality Winner is a SJW so far detached from the rest of the world that she leaks classified info to fight drumpf yet gets caught because she used Tor.
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>>60816822
I thought it was a pseudonym lol
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>>60816836
what are these "some advantages"? looks like using tor is like choosing to draw the "go directly to jail" card, I would like to pass go and collect $200 thank you very much.
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>>60815832
Reality used to be a friend of mine.
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>>60816867
Oh nevermind you're just the same shitposter sperging about

>TOR IS INSECURE BECAUSE I SAID LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU!!!!!! IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND!!!!!

;^)
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>>60816845
>because she used Tor
nope try reading again, maybe you'll get it right next time
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>>60816884
I miss when Tor had mostly cool people and wasn't infested with useless shits like you.
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>>60815997
So they didn't actually hack the air gapped voting machines?
Because that might have affected the election results a little
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>>60816910
Same.
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>>60815832
There is no way this is real. How the fuck could someone this stupid (allegedly) get such security clearance. This whole thing must be some political scheme.
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>>60816231
>>60816244
>>60816368
You put the idea out there that this document was legit. The onus is on you.
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>>60815997
>still miss any proof Russians did shit
This is getting sad
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>>60816939
yeah she's getting arrested and will be getting the book thrown at her because this is all a deep state ruse. it's good you were here to debate so marvelously and show us the truth.
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>>60816915

That's what we don't know yet, but looking like less than probable. So far it's just their computers and the malware.

There has been some finger pointing at the collusion between the Trump campaign advising Russians on which districts to spread propaganda online, but that's it.
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>>60816967
So you just assume the doc is true and not a fabrication
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>>60816946

Yes you are.

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/06/putin-russia-us-election/528825/

>Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday his country has “never engaged in” hacking another nation’s elections, but left open the possibility that hackers with “patriotic leanings … may try to add their contribution to the fight against those who speak badly about Russia.”
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>>60816974
Assuming what you just said is totally true and goes all the way to the top, what would that mean? The origibal accusation was that a hostile foreign power is taking over our governmental processes and that last iteration presupposed that Trump had no American supporters and no PR apparatus (a remarkable thing to assume given Trump's history) and that the Russians of all people were the only way for the Temple of the Frog to propagate information. So it goes from Seven Days In May to an advertising agency.
And then we have Hillary Clinton freely deciding to not campaign in Wisconsin. Did Putin do that?
Am I the only one who remembers the petulant quant, an underling of Nate Silver's, adamantly insisting on NPR that polls don't lie?
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>>60816997
And you're assuming that her twitter history is an elaborate defamatory intelligence legend?
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>>60816231
>>60816244
Not an argument in response to a non argument.

I need to just fucking kill myself already
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>>60817040
Oh, they're just that good
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>>60816493
Can't you just manually copy out the document by hand?
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>>60816974

> There has been some finger pointing at the collusion between the Trump campaign advising Russians on which districts to spread propaganda online, but that's it.

*sigh*

No there isn't. I know this is probably a wet dream of yours, but there isn't any evidence of this whatsoever.
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>>60817026

Care to try again with out cockamamy conspiracy or binging on Clinton delusion?

It was at the most a few districts, at the least nothing at all.

It's not just about Trump. It's about how vulnerable the democratic process is and what we are doing to ensure this doesn't happen again.

It's about restoring trust in a system many believe is broken, and that's what makes us vulnerable as a country. It's what leaders trying to undermine the US and keep us at odds.

So stop playing the fucking victim like a bitch and get back to protecting the foundations of our country.
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>morons like "Reality Winner" can get good jobs with top secret clearance and then leak data all over the place
>I can't get a simple IT job
kill me now
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>>60817187
What is your degree in?
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>>60816685
Yes, she printed it off on a workplace printer and handed over the pure printed document and didn't wash it or duplicate the text contents in a clean file.
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>>60817175
How vulnerable the democratic process is? So you must be that much more incensed with the admitted cheating Clinton and her campaign did to Bernie, right?
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>>60816884
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>60817278
EE
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>>60817278
Information Systems
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>>60817187

Maybe you just need a cool name like Actuality Victor
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>>60816685
color printers have a faint code on the page that gives information about the printer's serial number as well as date/time of printing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sit6zUQKpJc
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>>60816441
>printer microdots

Jesus FUCK
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>>60817360
i'm aware of them, they were talked about years back, i read EFF articles about it
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>>60817316

Faggot.

I will explain it one more time. If it doesn't translate as anything but herecy against your God-Emperor it is not my problem further, but your lack of awareness.

A foreign nation just tried to interfere with a national election. Who may, or may not have had help with members trying to become elected.

Now, you can either look at it as an assault on one of the core foundations of our country to have free elections. Or you can compartmentalize it in to your lizard brain as an attack on your tribe and make political hay out of an open, brazen assault on OUR country.

What is it going to be?
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>>60817411
to answer your question it had nothing to do with her using tor and everything to do with the printer
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>>60816872
You from Kingsville?
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Tor is still secure. Users are just retarded. Don't fuck it up.
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>Her name is Reality Winner
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>>60818776
So it was all for attention. She planned being caught.
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>>60817508
It's a false dilemma where both of choices forces me to agree to your assertion that it was true that "muh russian hacking" is true
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>>60816946
Are you mentally challenged? Read the leaked document yourself
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>>60816997
That's the most reasonable assumption given the evidence. You're so convinced the Russians are innocent you're just pulling conspiracy theories out of ass.
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>>60816368
So she's guilty until proven innocent?
Is the year also 1984?
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>Reality Winner
real crime is that name
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>>60815832
>Trust media
She deserved it.
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>>60818829

So the lizard brain won. Congratulations.

Now if only there was an investigation that allowed us to find out...

Oh right, the head of the agency conducting the investigation was fired for investigating those ties.
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>>60815941
>not knowing about printer forensics

My sides. If you're gonna leak government secrets you gotta be smarter than this.
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>>60817360
How do I disable this faggotry?
What printer can I but that doesn't have this stupid "feature"?
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>>60818962

https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots

Ans remember. Stallman is always right.
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>>60816017
The point is spying on your own wife to see if they're cheating
Also getting free nudes from random computers
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>>60818979
Thanks. I'm studying printers and this is new for me. I'll thoroughly research this.

Do you know a good resource to learn about printing technology in general? I need to produce "permanent" prints that can be stored for decades, maybe centuries without wearing out. I don't know what type of printer and paper I must use for that.
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>>60819052

Stone and chisel in a hermetically sealed case that has no finger print acids accumulated.

Or photogravure. But it doesn't do color.
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>>60819105
>stone

Yeah... I need the printed data to be machine-writable and machine-readable as well. I forgot to mention it. I can't really load a rock on top of a scanner.

I don't need color. Black & white is perfectly fine. Most of it will probably be text that will be archived. I will look into photogravure.
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>>60817508
Literal Reddit spacing. That Shareblue money goes all the way to /g/?
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>>60819250

Literal dick sucking. The Russians put faggots like you in a goulag.
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>>60815941
>glenn greenwald

lmao why the fuck do people keep leaking to that piece of shit? he doesnt do a single god damn thing to protect his sources ever.
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>>60819288
Fuck Russia. You think I give a shit about that dumpster of a nation?
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>>60819251

If only she were rich too.

Another martyr for freedom.
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>>60819301

You seem keen on letting them usurp American institutions. So what am I to believe?
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>>60819251
I would not use any of those words to describe her

Whites dont commit treason for their own political gains like she tried to do
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>>60819316
Hahaha. Yeah, okay. How much were your feelings hurt cause Clinton lost the election?
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>>60819323

So now that we know Russians tried to hack US elections, what's your stance on that?
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>>60816283
I love the claim that the government owns all the nodes.

China could just host like a good 4000 nodes and just ruin any chance any government has to break tor.
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>>60819339
I didn't know Russia could hack pen and paper. Where can I learn to be master Russian paper hacker?
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>>60819339
"russians" are always the scape goat and have been for 60 years
Losers blame them when they lose
Russia and US have been using the same tactics forever against eachother
Russians AND Americans try to "hack" every election that will have an impact on their stance in the world
See any country the US has diplomatic ties with. Also see any country that trys to fall out of the ties IE Libya Syria Iraq Iran Banana republics. Cuba is 50 miles from the US and for 60 years we black listed them for no real reason besides the fact the russians won that election and we lost our attempted coup
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>>60816597
>can install just a black cartridge
>still prints

you're not bright are you.
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>>60819332

Seeing as I voted for Trump, not very.

He is the catalyst. The accelerant. The powderkeg. And all it takes is a single match to watch this mother fucker burn.

You're just a symptom. A cog. A sympathetic wastrel who will burn with the rest.

And you know what happens after a forest fire fueled by your putrescent ignorance and impotent aggression?
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>>60818923
That reddit spacing is really annoying.
Just type like a normal human being.
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>>60819405
Please go back to /r/the_donald. You're not welcome here.
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>>60819396

So the NSA are just lying and the document released is just another Psy-Op meant to stir anti-Russian sentiment?

Okay...
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>>60815832
>>60815832
>>60815832
>>60815832
Reality Winner

Her name is Reality Winner

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>60815941
>>60816441
>>60818941
https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots
>its real, possibly all of them are doing it
A WORLDWIDE FOOLPROOF CAGE
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>>60819408

Does proper spacing bother you more or less than the Russian hacking US elections?
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>>60819429
Her birth name is "Sarah Winner." She legally changed her name to "reality."
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>>60819446
Russians didn't hack the elections, m8. It's just that white people in the U.S. weren't ready to hand their country over to foreigners like the European countries are doing.
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>>60819453
I guarantee you she does a lot of acid.
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>>60819455

So you are calling internal NSA documents lies? And the information released is just a Psy-op?

For what purpose?
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>>60819467
I'm calling your "documents" and "information" the equivalent of bigfoot and loch ness monster photos.
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>>60819428
Its the only "person" they can blame. Russia would never come out with proof they did not try to tamper with the election because they did try to tamper with it. But the impact was near zero.
NSA want funding where do they it? By saying a foreign nation(s) has great spying ability and needing to combat that with more funding.
My question to these people who actually think russia hacked the election is this.
Did you see any russia propaganda during the election? If so how did it impact your voting.
What I saw was a weak candidate win over an even weaker candidate who happened to be under FBI investigation during the entire campaign.
Also remember history is written by the victors so take w/e anyone currently in office has to say with a grain of salt.
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>>60819482

Based on what?

Her denied bail?
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>>60819492
Based on actual lack of proof.
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>>60815991
She was using Tor.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/08/reality-winner-woman-charged-with-top-secret-leak-denied-bond.html
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>>60819486

Please. NSA has more funding than they know what to do with. It's why they keep hiring these "security specialists" that keep revealing how they fucked up. Not to mention the silicon fabrication and IC patents they possess.

The results aren't in question. It was the emails that were hacked then spearfished with malware to election officials emails.

They got one officials email and password.

You are grasping at straws.
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>>60819492
How did russia hack the election?
Voter fraud? The democrats came out and said no voter fraud has ever impacted an election.
Financing? If so should we be calling the saudis hackers too?

Russia is one of the most powerful nations on earth they very much want to be a part of every election just as the US does.

I have more concern with things like lorreta lynch telling comey to not call it an investigation as its damaging to the campaign. He was instructed to call it a mater...
I am not sure when politics entered the justice system but its beyond credulous to assume it will remain.
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>>60819528
Actually they did several recounts and they came up with more Republican votes than Democrat every time, so they stopped talking about that.
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>>60819512
>U.S. NATIONAL CENTRAL CYBER SECURITY SECURITY COMMAND AGENCY SERVICE
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>>60819497

You're going in circles "m8".

The proof is the document she leaked. So you can either choose to operate in reality and say her documents are real.

Or go back to your bubble and claim everything is fake. Even her looming prison sentence.
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>>60819528

Who said they were successful?

They attempted to. And instead hacked emails and sent malware to election officials emails. Successfully stealing one officials ID and password.
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The reporter who scanned the document and showed it to the goverment is an idiot, he should have retyped it and had them evaluate it's content not given them a perfect fucking copy of the the printout, what an asshole.

Anyway looks like she didn't reveal much really and is going to do some serious time for leaking an uninformative document

play stupid games win stupid prizes
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>>60819526
Its clear the NSA does not want to reveal their tactics. Be it because they dont want others to use the same tactics or their are illegal. No the NSA does not have more funding that they need. ALL goverment agencies want the most funding they can possibly get. With some sort of story to play on they can use that to bid a non reduction or an increase in funding for the following fiscal year.
Again How did the russians "hack" the elections?
The same way hillary "wiped" her HDDs? Like with a cloth? Dont be ridiculous
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>>60819545
don't fuck with the triple circle bird shield thing agency
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>>60819528
>How did russia hack the election?

they hacked the DNC and published their emails and made them look bad
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>>60815832
she had security clearance by the NSA. she had no reason to use tor. she probably sent a fucking snapchat whatever the fuck liberal propaganda blogger
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>>60819562
It was a public email they hacked not the "election officials"
Podesta was using gmail and using his dogs name or some shit for the security question.
It was kid tier hacking if the podest email release is what you are on about
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>>60819563

I hope she sues the ever living fuck out of the reporter. That is just gross incompetence to protect your source.
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>>60819580>>60819563


>I hope she sues the ever living fuck out of the reporter. That is just gross incompetence to protect your source.

she should that guy is a true moron
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>>60819580
>you can sue some dummy if you sloppily collude with them to leak classified information
what fucking planet are you even on there chummmmmm?
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>>60819546
So according to the document, how did the Russians hack the election?
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>>60819566

Read the leaked document. So we can at least have a conversation on the sane topic. Don't worry, I can only think more of you if you do at this point.
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>>60815981
the feelings of r/the_donald retards and paid russian shitposters. if it were fake she wouldn't be in jail right now.
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>>60819594
Obviously, he's on planet America. You can sue anyone for anything here.
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>>60819595
because drumpf, don't you see? he grabbed the america by the pussy by using putin hackers to invisibly hack every aspect of the election

didn't you see all the fucking pepes? that alone is proof of a vast conspiracy
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>>60819595

They didn't. They tried to. Keep up son.
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>>60819577
Made them look bad by showing corruption and the faked they used illegal election tactics? Sure made them "look" bad
Remember when DWS was fired from the DNC and hired immediately by the clinton campaign?
I do also the DNC is suppoed to provide a free and clean equal primary election. It was clearly rigged from day zero to be in her favour against bernie sanders.
They planed to use the fact he is jewish to try and slander him. This was emails from the highest people in the DNC
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>>60819610
So then the Russians didn't hack the election as I originally said.
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>>60819611
>Made them look bad by showing corruption and the faked they used illegal election tactics? Sure made them "look" bad

regardless they did not hack the RNC and publish their emails

a foreign goverment hacking a party's emails then publishing them with the intent of affecting the election is not good

do you want russia to be picking our presidents or something?
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>>60819616

Why were they targeting election officials?
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>>60819625
>do you want russia to be picking our presidents or something?

It's either them or the vast amount of minorities from other countries here on out either way.
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>>60819563
>The reporter who scanned the document and showed it to the goverment is an idiot, he should have retyped it and had them evaluate it's content not given them a perfect fucking copy of the the printout, what an asshole.
seriously
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>>60819646
>It's either them or the vast amount of minorities from other countries here on out either way.
bro what the fuck are you talking about

a hostile nation committed crimes and tried to affect our election, that's not good

just because you were "for" the same guy they were does not make it good
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>>60815941
>fucking printers document your information when you print something
wew lad
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>>60819664
>>>60815941
>>fucking printers document your information when you print something
>wew lad

widely known old news actually
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>>60819664
>not having a nice old 1980's era Apple Laserwriter
beginner tier
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>>60819656

They are operating on Lizard brain tribalism.

Their team won. Any one trying to talk about the issue is just trying to deligitimize their victory.
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>>60819664
>>60819669
I'm honestly pretty shocked someone working for the NSA didn't know this. I've known this for about a decade and I'm fucking retarded.
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>>60819673
no we already know the russia angle was ginned up by hillary and pedesta

remember the leaked mails *ARE* a fucking thing, you might not talk about them but lots of people read them, we even made it into a game on /pol/
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>>60819656
>bro what the fuck are you talking about

You know exactly what I'm talking about. I'll be surprised of actual Americans can affect the elections at all after Trump.
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>>60816999
>but left open the possibility that hackers with “patriotic leanings … may try to add

It doesn't say that hackers with Patriotic leanings did anything, or that Putin or anyone in the Russian government knew about any or assisted them in hacking anything, he said he had no control over non-intelligence, non-government citizen hackers who act independently in Russia, are you dumb?
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>>60819681

Wait until you find out about the meta data of cellphone pictures.
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>>60817187
>not getting a government job through affirmative action

Have you even started calling yourself a Latinx Muslim Wiccan transwoman yet?
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>>60819693
wait till you know everything including audio and pictures and video counts as metadata

you will
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>>60819625
What makes you think they didnt hack the RNC?
What makes you think the DNC was the only thing hacked?
What proof that it was the russian goverment vs a normal russian citizen?
Spying is going to be happening
leaking of information is going to be happening

The document does not say shit btw about it. It simply says we think russia wanted to influence the election.
Clearly russia wants to influence our elections the same way we do theirs.
Presidents former and current almost always endorse a certain party official publicly in all elections. This is influencing elections the same as leaking emails
Is russia our enemy?
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>>60819681
>I'm honestly pretty shocked someone working for the NSA didn't know this. I've known this for about a decade and I'm fucking retarded.

She's retarded, she printed out and scanned then emailed a document to a reporter straight from her gmail, the reporter then showed the scan to the goverment and asked them if it was real

it's like she wanted to be caught

She didn't try to protect her identity in any way and didn't find a reputable reporter with a history of keeping his sources secret (easy to do, any idiot would at least do this)
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>>60819683

Lol.

So the document she leaked is a lie?

Just like her denied bail?
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>>60819630
What do election officials have to do with hacking elections?

Are our election officials machines or robots who can be hacked into? Do you have some means of hacking biological matter now?
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>>60819703
>Is russia our enemy?
basically yes
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>>60819703
>What makes you think they didnt hack the RNC?
The RNC had extra tight data security, used their own infrastructure, and primarily talked word of mouth and through the mail like intelligent people do in a time of universal surveillance.

However this didn't deter their opponents, remember Obama improperly and illegally unmasked Trump and a number of other people, and shopped the conversations around different media places.
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>>60816205
If you actually read the document it's complete hot air that says literally nothing

It's a big juicy nothingburger
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>>60819701

Already know. Got anything else?
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>>60819715
you are fucking retarded i am done talking to you
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>>60819711
No but it does not state anything the public did not already know.
She leaked something worthless and thought it was the holy nail in some magic coffin of russians surrounding trump that does not exist.

Do you people actually think trump is working for the russians or allied with them in anyway?
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>>60819711
>if the document might have been faked that means she didn't get bail
woman detected
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>>60819721
What did Russia do to your miserable life, pajeet?
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>>60819723

>What /pol/ and Russia wants you to believe
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>>60819722
>Obama improperly and illegally unmasked Trump and a number of other people, and shopped the conversations around different media places.
wat
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>>60815997
No, you seem to be misremembering it. Here, let me correct you:

What it actually says is that Russian IP's attempted to gain access, but the NSA was unable to find any evidence that they actually did.
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>>60819726
basically if you can imagine it, they did it probably 20 years ago?

i don't know what the limit will be eventually but snowden's leaks suggest we're pretty far out there
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>>60819715

>What does hacking the peoples machines overseeing election results have to do with manipulating election results?

Are you serious right now?
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>>60819741
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf
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>>60819758
im not reading all that

summary pls
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>>60819764
obama's going to jail
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>>60819721
Basically not even at all in the slightness. We are not at war with them nor have been in a very long time. We dislike some of their political tactics like Crimea and allying with syria but we are not the enemy of russia nor are they ours.

The red scare really fucked this country up and created an enemy that did not exist and this red scare 2.0 to produce something to put the blame on since the left lost.
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>>60819729

The fucking officials at the election offices didn't even fucking know before her leak.

So how did we already know it?

The desperation...
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>>60819722
>However this didn't deter their opponents, remember Obama improperly and illegally unmasked Trump
trump was masked?
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>>60819757
the memo this idiot girl printed out doesn't say they hacked anything, just that some phishing attempts were made dummy

learn to read
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>>60819757
If they didn't hack into the voting machine, how did they affect the results of the election?

How do you think these elections work? Do you think the people who run these voting machines have complete access, and by gaining access to their work computers, they can manipulate the votes inside of a voting machine?

Without ever accessing the voting machine?
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>>60819768
>obama's going to jail
i bet

>>60819769
they have 1500 nuke ICBMs pointed at us and criminally tried to hack our election computers and political parties, not very friendly
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>>60819784
ya these things aren't hooked to the internet anyway
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>>60819768
>>60819741
No one is going to jail besides low life leakers.
Unmasking basically means revealing the person you are tracking via "metadata" collection
Everyone is tracked all the time but not everyone is unmasked or known to be a certain person within the system
Pretty much everyone with a TS clearance is unmasked for security reasons
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>>60819769

All those trade sanctions put in place by the UN for invading Crimean peninsula are just friendly reminders I guess?
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>>60819792
>a shill deliberately attempting to confuse the issue
what a surprise, CTR or deep stater?
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>>60819709
>she printed out and scanned then emailed a document to a reporter straight from her gmail, the reporter then showed the scan to the goverment and asked them if it was real
>it's like she wanted to be caught
>She didn't try to protect her identity in any way and didn't find a reputable reporter with a history of keeping his sources secret (easy to do, any idiot would at least do this)
why did she do this
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>>60819784

Who said they affected the results of the election? Are you feverish and delusional? Having a conversation with someone else?

The attempt was made.
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>>60819792
>>they have 1500 nuke ICBMs pointed at us

The USA created the first working nuclear weapon and pointed it at the Russians, why wouldn't you point a gun back at someone pointing one at you?

Seems like self-defense.
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>>60819798
read the document, the court that oversees this saw obama massively abusing his powers repeatedly over time, it is a fact and not up for debate

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf
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>Russia tries to hack into our computers
>all of a sudden Republicans are Russia's best friend and russia didn du nuffin no matter what

lol
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>>60819814

Communism was a big threat after world war 2.

Now even the commies want that capitalist pig money. For them selves at the top anyways.
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>>60819811
>The attempt was made.

So if the election's results weren't affected, why are you so upset?

The USA attempts to influence elections in just about every country in the world.

Who made the attempt? Can you prove it was Russian IPs when US intelligence communities have admitted they have technology to make any cyberattack look like it originated from Russia?
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>>60819792
We have 8,000 nukes and an entire wall of missle intercepts around them and we are building more as we speak. We also fucked their economy up multiply times by blastin ass in the middle east which fucked oil prices to all hell.
Not sure if you know this but we are not the good guys. We are just simply the guys.
If we were the good guys we would be in africa building roads and airpots and farms but instead we do that in the middle east where the oil is. We want the middle east to be destabilized it helps us keep oil cheap by never allowing collusion between the oil producing nations.
Libya is the worst foreign policy mistake in h istory and whos shoulders does that fall on? Ya girl HillDog
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>>60819808
>she printed out and scanned
haha what
>then emailed a document to a reporter straight from her gmail
oh god kek
>the reporter then showed the scan to the goverment and asked them if it was real
JUST
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>>60819703
Reminder that the DNC did not allow the FBI to investigate the hacks into their networks. Instead they hired a firm called Crowdstrike to do it - and that firm has since RETRACTED their assertion that Russia was involved in it. The FBI have not actually looked at a single DNC computer.

Reminder that the leaks actually came from Seth Rich.
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>>60819835
>If we were the good guys we would be in africa building roads and airpots and farms
lol fuck that
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>>60819832

Are you upset when a thief tries to open your door?
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>>60819829
no it wasn't. it was about the same threat as terrorists are now. a non existent one.

i thought pattern recognition was a human skill. but americans don't seem to have it.
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>>60819835
>We want the middle east to be destabilized it helps us keep oil cheap by never allowing collusion between the oil producing nations.
>Libya is the worst foreign policy mistake in h istory and whos shoulders does that fall on? Ya girl HillDog

Yeah I remember when we went to war with libya for 10 years and 5000 of our soldiers died and we wasted 2 trillion dollars based on faulty intelligence

oh wait that was Iraq
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>>60819808
she had tweeted that she loved anderson cooper and glenn greenwald both

just because greenwald got the docs this doesn't preclude pooper from having gotten them too, and he used to work for the cia
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>>60815832

i would use her lips around muh dick.
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>>60819842
that's what happened, she used her personal gmail account too
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>>60819849
Kek, tell that to Venezuela.
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>>60819862
she said she wanted to kill all white mails and was going to move to afghanistan and then finally iran

she would just bite that bad boy clean off
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>>60819856
Democrats and ya girl hilldog voted for that
We just happen to have a republican president at the time.
Remember when obama said in 2007 we are going to leave the middle east? What happened? We still have 50k troops there
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>>60819847
So are you admitting the Russians didn't influence the election through hacking efforts, they only tried?

If they didn't influence the election through hacks, then the election was legitimate.

I'm just making sure the Russians didn't hack our elections.

I'm more than happy knowing our elections were fair and balanced and our officials were elected by the people, why are you still so upset?
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>>60819858
at least cooper kept his fucking mouth shut
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>>60819849

It's funny you don't think so.

Let's ask what the Chinese think about the Hundred Flowers campaign.

Or Cuban exiles fleeing from Castro.
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>>60819864
no she printed them out and physically mailed them, so i read anyway
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>>60819874
the dems voted to allow bush to go to war if he felt he had to based on the intelligence, they didn't vote "for" the war

then bush went full retard
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>>60819874
he blew up more muslim weddings than all other presidents combined
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>>60819876
I always lol a that because it was real
>Acid wash like a pool
No you knew exactly what he meant in terms of clearing the server
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>>60819876

Are you happy when a burglar tries to open your door and steals an amazon package?
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>>60819882
>no she printed them out and physically mailed them, so i read anyway
even worse

what a moron
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>>60819881
inb4 "IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM"
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>>60819777
All Americans are by default. The US intel agencies can't collect data on Americans, but they can collect data on foreigners. (e.g. they can still spy on all Americans), but in the case where you spy on a foreigner and collect data on an American, you have to mask that American.

To reveal the American names requires a FISA court order/warrant.

Obama's administration ordered a FISA warrant for this regarding Trump. Denied the first time (one of only 12 times ever refused) because the judge balked at the scope of the request, allowed the second time possibly by a different judge. More recently a FISA judge said what was done was incredibly illegal and might have unmasked several million americans. There's an ongoing investigation into it.

I'm not surprised you haven't heard about it. The crimes of the previous administration are brushed aside for another week's hate session on Trump. I'm sure finding out Trump got two scoops of icecream for dinner is a far more outrageous, compelling, and important story than Obama illegally spying on millions of americans with an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter.
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>>60819600
>it's illegal for the government to provide a fake document with a real classification marking to a leaker if it's pre-approved as a sting
is not
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>>60819896
>I always lol a that because it was real
>>Acid wash like a pool
>No you knew exactly what he meant in terms of clearing the server
well bleachbit is confirmed not to work for shit because all her emails were recovered
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>>60819903

t. Sean Hannity.
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>>60819900
yep then glenn greenwald scanned them at a high enough resolution to see the dots, didn't apply any filters or photocopy it first or anything
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>>60817095
You can trace people by their handwriting.
This is the only option
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>>60819896
Thank god for NBC telling us the real facts about the history of these two candidates

>>60819898
>when a burglar tries to open your door and steals an amazon package

My door is not an official government server, it's not an official government computer, all governments try to hack and gain information and influence all other governments to further their own interests.

The USA is probably well inside of Russian intelligence networks through hacking.

So no, I don't get upset when the USA meddles into the affairs of every single country in the world, and then another government does the same thing to the USA.

It's not the same as "breaking into my house" or "stealing my amazon package."
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>>60819903
>Obama's administration ordered a FISA warrant for this regarding Trump. Denied the first time (one of only 12 times ever refused) because the judge balked at the scope of the request, allowed the second time possibly by a different judge.
How sneaky of Obama to put a request before a judge
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>>60819903
The judge said up to 5% of Americans were illegally unmasked.
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>>60819913
They were recovered from the inboxes of who they were sent to. Nothing was recovered from her server itself.
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>>60819922
>yep then glenn greenwald scanned them at a high enough resolution to see the dots, didn't apply any filters or photocopy it first or anything

sounds like what he did was scan the letter and the NSA could see it was from scanned folded paper (could not see the dots) and then went to the document and saw only 6 people had ever printed it out, they interviewed those 6 people and reality caved
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>>60819927
>How sneaky of Obama to put a request before a judge

It was a secret request done in a secret court through a judge who has no accountability to anyone.

I don't think you have any idea how disgusting the idea of secret courts ruling that its own citizens don't deserve privacy rights.
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>>60819923
word selection and order can also identify you

That's why the shadowbrokers use broken english in their correspondence
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>>60819925

Got it, so when someone tries to open your door and look in your mail slot you aren't incensed.

Pat yourself on the back for that lie.
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>>60819942
nah somebody found the dots and posted the proofs already on /pol/

probably the nsa
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>>60819961
>when someone tries to open your door

No one is opening my door friend, a government tried to access another government machine

Stop with your stupid analogies that governments trying to influence other governments is the same as some Redguard breaking into my house and stealing my computer.

My house is not a government computer, my property is not a government server.

Keep up asking me if I enjoy having my house broken into, you're really making me think hard about this thoughtful discussion.
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>>60819966
well regardless it seems like she wanted to get caught or was such a dumb person she never should have had access to that kind of information anyway and really it's the government's fault for letting morons read their classified documents
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>>60819979

It must be the language barrier, right, comrade?

I guess they don't have dope fiends in your country.
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>>60819939
nah you can recover stuff even if it's been bleachbitted
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>>60819989

I think she wanted to get caught. She wanted to be a martyr for the twitter "#resistance".

She was really dumb otherwise.
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>>60819989
>and really it's the government's fault for letting morons read their classified documents

finally someone realizes most government employees are retarded incompetents

>>60819997
sadly the retard who was running the server ran to reddit and posted HELP I NEED TO WIPE THIS HARDDRIVE CLEAN WHAT DO I DO? and someone suggested BleachBit.
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>>60819989
i believe they hired her specifically because she was radicalized and obama wanted people like that inside our national security infrastructure
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>>60820008
>i believe they hired her specifically because she was radicalized and obama wanted people like that inside our national security infrastructure
Radicalized in what way? To disapprove of Russia trying to hack our computers?
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>>60819991
I agree, everyone who disagrees with me is Russian too.
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>>60820004
>sadly the retard who was running the server ran to reddit and posted HELP I NEED TO WIPE THIS HARDDRIVE CLEAN WHAT DO I DO?
pls be true

evidence this happened?
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>>60820027
just google it you lazy nigger, there were technical explanations of several ways in which it could have been done
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>>60820002
>I think she wanted to get caught. She wanted to be a martyr for the twitter "#resistance".
she should have hired a lawyer to help her with the process of being charged and turning herself in, as it is they raided her house and she was unprepared
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>>60820016
she wanted to burn down the white house, and then move to either afghanistan or iran you dummy

try reading a bit outside your script
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>>60820027
http://observer.com/2016/09/hillary-clintons-network-host-asked-reddit-how-to-delete-very-vip-emails/

People who work for government and government officials are monumentally stupid. People with brains get real jobs instead of getting into power through favors, gift-giving, and nepotism.
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>>60820040
she was haughty, i don't think she wanted to get caught, and she was cooperating with other deep state goons on darkweb chat rooms
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>>60815832
and Tor was the only thing that didn't fuck up her leak.
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>>60820047
>she wanted to burn down the white house, and then move to either afghanistan or iran you dummy

and to do this she released a document detailing russia trying to hack computers in the USA

makes perfect sense
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>>60820071
he says with no proof

Tor is busted
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>>60819966
Wait, so not only can they not prove that the operators even connected to the relay boxes and used them to send any emails, but they can't even connect these operators to any organization, they can't even say for sure WHAT organization, AND they can't tie that organization to the Russian GRU either

All of these things are either "inferred by an analyst" or "contextual" ie it's a bunch of assumptions.
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>>60820080
this has nothing to do with tor either way numbnuts
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>>60820020

You're either Russian having trouble understanding American life.

Or a watermelon headed retard too stupid to function independently.

I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. But if you insist on being a retard, who am I to stop you?
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>>60820075
no she actually said this in conversations with people online and over the phone

again, please try to keep up. you're sounding very ill informed about all of this

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nsa-contractor-reality-winner-wanted-burn-white-house/story?id=47912175
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>>60820080
Tor is very good at giving users anonymity which is why it's banned on 4chan.
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>>60820094
What does russia trying to hack our computers have to do with the white house?
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>>60820105
russia never successfully hacked the computers according to any documents though
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>>60820114
>russia never successfully hacked the computers according to any documents though
did I say they did

again what does russia trying to hack our computers have to do with the white house?
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>>60820092
If I were breaking into houses daily for years, I wouldn't have any right to be upset when someone peeks into my mail slot, friend.

The USA has no right to be "offended" when outside parties try to influence their elections, when the USA has done the same to just about every country that hasn't allied with it (and a few that have.)

You're irrationally upset about an attempted hack on some American computer as if some Redguard kicked down your door and stole your my little pony fleshlight you ordered from Amazon.

There is no reason to be 'mad' about counter intelligence agencies performing counter intelligence, I am beginning to wonder if you have a personal stake in the USA government, which had not been influenced in this election through hacking.
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>>60820105
oh and she's obviously a terrorist who was radicalized and then placed inside a company working with the nsa, because she managed to bypass any vetting

her twitter friends are probably all being looked at now, doubtless she also conspired and winked and nudged on twitter
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>>60820126
russia never hacked the computers though, why are you so obsessed with a failed hacking attempt?

it's like you're trying to deflect from this would be terrorist leaker, or the fact that obama unmasked up to 5% of the us population in a big witch hunt
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>>60820139
>russia never hacked the computers though, why are you so obsessed with a failed hacking attempt?
the question is why was she so obsessed with the failed hacking attempt to risk imprisonment to leak the document about it?
>>60820139
>it's like you're trying to deflect from this would be terrorist leaker,
wat
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>>60819784
Not to mention, most of the votes were written on paper. One does not "hack" paper ballots.
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>>60820147
>why was she so obsessed with the failed hacking attempt

She was a retard who admitted publicly she wanted to burn the white house down, she saw a classified document with the word "Russia" on it, her eyes lit up, and she leaked it without reading it.
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>>60820147
>plotting to burn down the white house isn't terrorism
ok lass you've just about drumpfed yourself out for the night
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>>60816512
This is 100% true. I have very broad access to NASA technical information (down to the rover compute element's register map for MSL) and I only had to watch a 5 min ITAR/EAR intro video.
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>>60820162
>publicly she wanted to burn the white house down

and that she wanted to join the Taliban.

and that she would side with Iran in a US/Iran war. America's government is incompetent beyond belief, they also ruin countries like Libya, Syria and Iraq with their massive incompetence.
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>>60820171
That's because all the data worth stealing has already been stolen by your chinese colleagues, and the administration/government know the security is pointless for your work.
>>
these threads are so full of noise, /g/ hasn't always been this bad right?
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>>60817377
I recognize that eye bulge!
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>>60820132

As a United States citizen of course I have a personal stake in this. Do you not identify as an American Citizen, Vlad?

So I am legitimately pissed the fuck off when a failing foreign nation attempts to undermine one of our greatest strengths because they want to weaken the US further.

This goes beyond counter intelligence. Which no counter intelligence mandates for offensive penetration in to an election officials computer, and distributing malware to gather passwords and ID credentials.
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>>60820200
>ruin countries like Libya, Syria and Iraq
which were doing so well before lol
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>>60820227
>>So I am legitimately pissed the fuck off when a failing foreign nation attempts to undermine one of our greatest strengths

Maybe you should have gotten upset when the USA tried to undermine another nation first?

If you can't take it, then you shouldn't dish it out.

The USA brought this on itself by trying to influence other countries, killing other countries' leaders and instating their own, and other such activities.
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>>60820239
Notice how these women aren't being stoned for not covering their hair and how they don't have to be accompanied by a man in public?
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>>60820259
feminist SJWs please get out
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>>60820244

Oh yes, the evil empire equation.

The US did bring it upon its self. That still doesn't make it ok.

There are MANY things I disagree with my government on. And i do my part by Voting to have my individual voice heard by the masses.
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>>60820268
The same university, 2017
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>>60819744
> Russian IP's attempted to gain access
See, the problem with this is that anybody anywhere in the world could just be using a VPN via Russia, so that they appear to be Russian, and/or because Russia is outside the jurisdiction of whatever country they might actually be living in.
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>>60820205
Well I even have access to new documents that are released on a biweekly basis. Those are just being released so I doubt they've been already stolen.
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>>60820227
So we write them a letter or sanction them.

We don't use weaponized thots who want to kill all men, burn down the White House, and finally move to the sand pit to join the fucking Taliban to leak.

It's over, time to calm down. Write a letter to your senator and get over it, you're never getting a magical do-over, Trump will never be impeached, you are now making an ass of yourself. Thankfully people who think you inside the national security establishment seem to like to network and pal around online, I'm sure they are being looked at presently.
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>>60819856
>based on faulty intelligence
this was on purpose, nobody but burgers believed this shit at the time
you guys got manipulated by your puppet president, and now the entire world knows usa citizens will believe anything their government says as long as it's on tv
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>>60820301
>citizens will believe anything their government says as long as it's on tv
actually trump's presidency is a complete refutation of your hypothesis
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>>60820297
>It's over, time to calm down. Write a letter to your senator and get over it, you're never getting a magical do-over, Trump will never be impeached,

What does Russia trying to hack our computers have to do with Trump and impeachment?
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>>60820311
it's old news, that's all, there's no more juice in the russia business

you're gonna kill poor old hanoi john by keeping him up at night with this, he was rambling and rambling today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFV82iI33wU
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>>60820323
>it's old news, that's all, there's no more juice in the russia business
I wonder why new news keeps coming out all the time and Sessions had to recuse himself from talking about Russia and Trump tried to get the FBI to drop the Flynn Russia investigation?

hmmmmmm
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>>60820343
>news
fake news you mean and it's petering out too

just the other day the news was making fun of hillary for rambling on and on about russia like you are now
>>
turns out reality winner had contacts with foreigners on twitter too
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>>60820350
>fake news you mean and it's petering out too
Sessions recused himself because of fake news?
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>>60820309
fugg you're right
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>>60820368
yep, that is the power of fake news

a couple bits of damage at the beginning, and then trump has been powering through it since

today's flop was their last little bit of ejaculate
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>>60820368
>muh sessions
>muh flynn

>DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO COMEY ON THE NEWS NOW
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btfo
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>>60820379
flynn was probably an obama plant anyway so that one's a wash imho
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>>60815991
What's the best way to get off the yellow bit tracking when copying documents?
Using yellow paper?
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>>60820528
it's printing that leaves the dots

you can copy using a copier with only black toner that won't leave tracking dots
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>>60815941
>leaking documents to a sodomite kike that literally rats out his sources when paid well enough

Serves her right.
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>>60820528
take a very slightly out of focus photograph of the document with a film camera and enlarge that

that's what a clever person in a clever movie would do anyway
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>>60820549
I thought all copy machine use a hidden code?
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>>60820286
>>>60819744
>> Russian IP's attempted to gain access
>See, the problem with this is that anybody anywhere in the world could just be using a VPN via Russia, so that they appear to be Russian, and/or because Russia is outside the jurisdiction of whatever country they might actually be living in.

That's not how NSA does actor attribution. The actual IP address a target uses is very low on the list of things to focus on during attribution, for obvious reasons.
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>>60820259
Uday and Qusay dindu nuffin
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>>60816244
damn..
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