This design is engineering nirvana. They should use it as the

>>60814742
>trashcan pro
lul.

>>60814742
New Mac Pro will be rectangular. It will have PCIe slots. It will have SATA ports. It will have a modular design with plenty of cooling options.

It will look nothing like a cylindrical Mac Pro.

>>60814742
didn't this thing have really bad airflow because of its retarded design?

>>60814765

One would hope, but Cook doesnt care about the high end/power users.

>>60814742
https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/4/15175994/apple-mac-pro-failure-admission

>since it looks like it's already 95% of the way there
Good job, you know literally nothing about what went into the design of the current mac pro or why its an unusable, non-servicable piece of shit.
Which is why they're completely scrapping that awful fucking design.

>>60814819
The SIG P250/320 exist. Ultrabook Thinkpads exist. I'm pretty sure they can make the trashcan serviceable with some engineering smarts. You obviously won't be there to help.

That thing literally caused the CPU to overheat and constantly thermal throttle to like 1 GHz.

t. ex-trashcan user

>>60814742
the slow radeon cf ruined this mac pro...

>>60814742
It would just require more and more proprietary bullshit that apple can just stop selling whenever it likes forcing you to just buy a new one.
If you want something to be serviceable just use standard components, stopping short of a standard motherboard/PSU is expected but at least have the ability to swap Hard drives. SSDs, ram, video cards with off the shelve parts and make upgrading CPUs easy

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>>60814885
>I just realized that iMac Pro will throttle constantly

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>>60814963
Didn't help the 3.5GHz capable processor throttled to 2GHz.

Fuck man, if I wanted laptop performance I'd get a laptop.

The mac pro was one of apple's most embarrassing products released. GOD FORBID you ran the CPU and the GPU at the same time.

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>>60815007
>2 tiny laptop fans to cool an 18-core processor and a top end VEGA GPU
Is apple just fucking with us now?

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>$200 HP HTPC took Apple's flagship garbage can and perfected it

Really made me think.

>>60814976
I don't think theres any chance the CPU will be upgradeable, even the old tower Mac Pros didn't really have a user upgradeable CPU. Hell, even if you wanted full GPU functionality you had to buy one of their special flashed ones or deal with no boot options.

>>60815090
This is low power pc... not relevant..

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>>60815090
you and I both know that they not even close to the same thing

The HP doesnt have to cool a Quad-core + Intel Xeon or a dedicated gpu

>>60815108
CPUs where upgradeable in the Mac pro towers it just didn't use the usual Intel socket and you had to be extra careful swapping it and the unflashed video card thing can be fixed if apple just makes there UEFI less autistic

>>60815007
This is when he know the news that wtc is being attacked by sandnigger right?

>>60815194
Yes, but with the smile filter applied.
>We didn't even know what technological marvels we'd see today would even be back then.

>>60814742
They've already said this design isn't upgradeable because they designed it too closely for that specific heat load.

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Should I buy one of these? Will it make me happy?

>>60815877
Yes
Yes

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>>60814742
>Overpay
>Proprietary operating system with zero security, tons of backdoors, and the ability to dualboot windows because windows is better :^)
>Can't upgrade anything besides ram
>If one thing breaks you're in for at least a $300 fee just to get it looked at
>Giant heatsink taking up at least 40% of the case
>This design is engineering nirvana
>>60814765
no, ATX is engineering nirvana and no pajeet trashcan can compete

>>60815079

this is comical

>>60815160

so a tdp suitable for that form factor?

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>>60815194
>attacked by sandnigger right?

uhh, yeah that was it

>>60814742
It's fucking retarded pham

make it a cuboid instead

>>60815079
>tiny
remember this is a device with a 27" screen, with at least 5 inches of bezel (including the bottom)
Those fans are at least 3 inches around
It's still probably going to throttle, but those sure as hell aint small fans

>>60815108
>even the old tower Mac Pros didn't really have a user upgradeable CPU

and yet I did

>>60815079
>Shudders remembering working on pieces of shit like that.

>>60815079
>Mac Pro design with heat pipes loud turbines and another big heat source
This thing is DOA
Apple resurrected the Mac Pro for a good reason

>>60814742
it's cute but cooling is nowhere near adequate for high power shit

would make a nice midrange desktop if they redesigned the internals to use a 65w cpu (i7-7700 or lower models for poorfags) and a decent full-fat gpu like the rx570 or 580

bit more balls than an imac without being forced to use an a*ple monitor

>>60816957
>would make a nice midrange desktop
fuck would have been so nice if this was i7/imac spec tier and price

>>60815877

I anticipate heat damage to the LCD.

>>Sorry no warranty. MFW Apple will accuse you of damaging it when it is an engineering oversight.

You will be sad. Get a Ryzen AIO if you need to save space on your desk.

>>60814742
>This design is engineering nirvana.
As someone with their masters in EE with a focus on circuit design, and 15 years in the industry, you are so full of shit.
This is a horrific design, for so many reasons. but sure. Keep jerking off to Apple products because they look pretty.

>>60817057
Think its clear Apple doesn't have a sensible ideology to ID, they fetishise things that are considered impossible or illogical to prove a point

even if the product suffers
I could list examples or I could just say go to apple.com/store and look at almost every product there

> a bunch of bullshit

whatever OP

anyway are they really coming out with a new modular mac pro soon? source?

>>60817163
And, it seems to have gotten worse since Jobs died, which is strange since Jobs was thought to be the one driving these kinds of engineering for the sake of form (the infamous "screws that hold nothing" in iBooks, etc.).

>>60817194
there's blog posts and shit everywhere about it, they called a handful of cunts into a meeting and admitted they fucked up and were working to fix it

imac pro is the first step there but they did promise a new modular mac pro was coming (but "not this year")

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>>60814742
*starts up photoshop*

>>60815079
>laptop in a screen
yawn

>>60814742
Except this shit used to throttle and get hotter than it should. Its a engineering failure

>>60815079
you know nothing about apple.
Its all about style. Even engineering should have style, even if it wont work as it should, its beautiful and you can show to all your friends at starcucks the shit you paid 5000$

>>60815160
So it's a perfect comparison then.

>>60814794
What is iMac pro?

>>60818226
an meme

>>60815079
>>60816773
You are fucking morons. First of all the picture is of 27" display and the fans are huge.

Apple claims it is adequate to cool 500W of TDP since this time around they have server grade parts and none of that laptop shit.

Not like any of this matters though. Most of people are too poor and mentally challenged in /g/ to understand anything in first place

Can I build a tardis case around it?

>>60817351
Yes "laptop" with 18 cores, 128gb ram ecc, vega gpu. I'd like to know where can I get these kind of laptops

You can yawn to your dad who didn't pull out.

>>60818262
The trash can had better cooling than this and it's desktop processor had to throttle to 2ghz while playing youtube videos lmao.

AT BEST the overheating problem will be just as bad as the trash can.

>>60815194
Yep. He was visiting a kindergarten class.

>>60814742
>>Better thermals with just one fan
And increase noise because you need to push all of that air through all of that hardware.

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>>60818398
I don't know man, that heatsink looks kinda small. Unless the fans spin at 1 million RPM I think this is gonna be Trash Can 2: The Rebirth.

I'm a massive Applefag but that design is fucking shit. Apple admitted it themselves.

>>60814794

What dumb shit is this? Apple invited reporters a couple months ago to the HQ to outline to them their plans for the now iMac Pro and the totally redesigned Mac Pro, intended to be a long serving machine with modularity. They literally said this themselves.

>>60818398

You've never used the trashcan have you? Yeah, no that's not how fans work. The point of it was one large fan spinning at a low RPM to move a lot of air. How don't you understand this?

>>60818727
You've never used the trashcan have you? Yeah, no that's not how fans work. The point of is was one useless fan struggling to move air through a cramped piece of shit with almost no ventilation or airflow whatsoever.

>>60818727
Air resistance and turbulence
enjoy your inefficient cooling

Things the Trashcan does well:
1) Be slower and more expensive than most other workstations of similar price
2) Give designers a boner but ONLY designers, engineers will quickly get why this is a bad design in practice AS WELL as even designers see it with the cables and uggggggggglllllllyyyyyyyy
3) Get exceptionally hot and loud when doing the one things it's meant to do

Otherwise it does other things okay for really expensive.

>>60814856
>Laptop which, when something on the mainboard dies they replace the mainboard but usually just recommend buying a new one since MOST of these laptops are sub-2k as an example of your 10k+ Mac Pro being serviceable in the same way.

Look, I know that you aren't a tech-fellow and think that shapes and colors equate to performance and value, but just stop giving them your damn money.
You fuckin' drunk.

>>60815186
"if apple just makes there UEFI less autistic"
Their.
So you're saying that, since they haven't done that, it is still a problem and therefore a point against until they DO do it.

What you're saying is basically vindicating his point.

>>60818303
>18 cores
Thought they said 8 cores. I know Ryzen id power efficient, but that's a bit of a stretch.

>>60814742
>Being a Macfag
>Being "into" Applel products
>Getting excited over Applel products
>Not knowing anything about tech
>Posting on /g/
>Thinking you belong here or even remotely fit in

Please leave before someone hurts your fragile Macfag feelings

>>60814742
>engineering nirvana
>overheating trash
Pick one

Apple could literally just jam a RPi in an overpriced case and macfags wouldn't even notice as long as it ran macOS

>>60818303
He means form factor.
It's got an all in one design and cooler, meant to be proprietary and compact instead of following the industry standard for desktops which is modular parts.

Don't be willfully ignorant.

>>60814765
You can't fit rectangles in your anus, so I don't think so.

>>60814765
>SATA ports
Nah, just need more Thunderbolt ports.

External PCIe for lyfe!

>>60818262
>500W of TDP
>intel housefire 18 core cpu
>modern apple design with built in throttling

lol

>>60817640
it's true. industrial design are the high priests. the engineers must be brilliant because they do a pretty good job of minimizing the damage, but if utility is going to get in the way of aesthetics, aesthetics win every time.

>>60815079

>tiny laptop fans

Are you fucking blind or just retarded? They've got a diameter of like 3 inches and god knows the depth but they're at least a couple cm.

>>60819098

>Thought they said 8 cores.

You think it has 1 single SKU? Do you breathe from your mouth? Holy shit.

>>60819602
Oh, I see where I fucked up. I was thinking an actual laptop. Not the AIO screen thing.

>>60819634

So you didn't even read the previous post to which the person you replied to quoted. Then you started talking about Ryzen, which isn't even featured on any Apple computer right now. Nice going triptard.

>>60818262
They're not huge fans, except in comparison to laptop fans.
They are hardly adequate for the situation at hand though. They're definitely smaller than the blower fans you find on your top line GPUs.
The CPU and GPU coolers are solely reliant on two heatpipes each to move ALL the heat away from the chips to a SINGLE heatsink block.
It looks like the SSD is under the heatsink too, adding even more heat there.

This is just a terrible idea.

>trashcan == god design

>>60820500
This conditional expression when evaluated returns False

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>>60817640

BOYCOTT STARKEKS

>>60815090

That's pretty nice, having great success with hp my whole life I might get one if I make it to a successful country like America. For now, India is my reality.

>>60820852

>I might get one if I make it to a successful country like America. For now, India is my reality.

Yeah, keep India as your only reality. Don't shit up America even more. Also, don't shit up 4chan even more. Isn't there a pajeetchan or 4street you can go shitpost on?

>>60818714
>were listening but decided to say fuck you
why did they do this shit

>Swap mobo/CPU combo board all at once since nobody exchanges just one on tower rigs anyways
Yeah... t-thanks (((Intel)))!

>>60814742
The only thing wrong with the trashcan design was they skimped on the cooling, if they made the entire center of it heat sink and put 2 fans on it one pulling the air out one pushing the air in that could've been a monster. However they skimped on that sows a throttling piece of shit that was loud with no real user serviceable parts, it was a cluster fuck.

The design is functional, the design could work, but you need need to make it about 1 1/2 maybe 2 times bigger than it is, you have to make the inside a heat sink, and a big heatsink it that to not only cool the CPU but also the GPU or GPU's, I forget if you put more than one in it.

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>>60814742
>looks like a grill
Do you cook ribs in there?

>>60815877
It won't bring you a gf.

>>60816561
>no, ATX is engineering nirvana and no pajeet trashcan can compete

>>60814781

Yes. My collegues crapbox throttled to hell and back when rendering video.

>>60814794
>power user
>osx
??

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>>60814800

>mfw all the shills were saying that surely apples designers knew how to design a good can.

>>60821960

Poor babby, never got to use OS X did you? Do you have any experience or any practical knowledge of it? Or are you a gaymur Windows babby?

>>60814742
>modular
breddy gud.
>everything is proprietary and overpriced
lolnope.