/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>60801011
>Not even at bump limit
You fucking dipshit faggot

Any comfortable, good sounding bluetooth in-ear phones with good battery (10 hours or more, preferably 16), which are also waterproof and have noise reduction?
Or should I Just Wait (TM)?

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*chip*

*snap*

Who could it be? It's Sennheiser of course!

>>60801028
You seem upset.

>>60801011
Pic related?

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If the 598 cracks, the 600 snaps, and the 800 chips, what sort of symptom will the HD820 have? Will it bend? Will it melt? Will it explode?
Oh Sennheiser, you're the only headphone manufacturer capable of such great entertainment and such shit headphones. You can bet the shills will defend it too.

>>60801333
Post a post-revision HD598 that has cracked.

>>60801353
Nah, not really interested in that. What sort of retarded defect do you think the HD820 will have though?

>>60801082
I've been using Jaybird Freedoms since november and they've been great.

>>60801363
The defect that makes you shitpost because you're upset.

>>60801152
Who are you employed by?

>Budget
$200, flexible
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The more comfort the better
>Sound signature
neutral, but it's not super important
>Past headphones
Sennhieser HD 558

>>60802211
Look on massdrop for the next few days, there's going to be a planar magnetic headphone dropping for less than 200 USD by Fostex.

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>tfw thread is dead

>>60801969

I like how the SR850 sounds by default. Is there a guide to making my new headphones sound like it? I mess around with the equalizer, but I don't really know what I'm doing.

>>60802419
Are there any bluetooth headphones that sound like the SR850?

>>60802346
just plug em into your motherboard, literally no difference from the shit stack
>>60802419
eq but it's a lot of trial and error

I have a new hyperX revolver and the sound is horrible and hollow. It sounds like im in a box compared to my old Afterglow .50's.

The mic also has a horrible low frequency rumble to it as well, no matter what settings i use.

Wtf am I doing wrong (Other then buying memeX gear)

>>60803010
return them?

>>60803019
I got it from newegg for 99$, customer support said there is nothing wrong with them and that if I want I can adjust my EQ, but no matter what I do I cant replicate the sound of my Afterglows. Hell I cant even find a sound profile or frequency profile on Afterglow.

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What is the second best headphone manufacturer behind Sennheiser?

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Where can I order a replacement headphone cord for my AKG Q701s? I'd rather not buy an entirely new set if I don't have to just to get another cord. Shit was expensive when I bought it.

>>60803093
amazon or ebay

>>60803062
Send that junk back to Amazon and get your money back.

>>60803086
1. Sennheiser
2. Beyerdynamic
3. Sony
4. Audio-Technica
9000. Shit
9001. AKG

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>>60803110

Oh...ok. Well I bought these years ago & don't have money for something new yet. They get a little hot, but the sound was good. They were my first entry level headphones. Why are they considered bad now? I listen to a lot of synthesizer & disco & they seemed fine to me.

What are some comfy ass pads to replace flaky ones on my ATH-900Xs

>>60803093
amazon or ebay, there's also a coiled variant which I bought because I hate the long straight cable

>>60803384

Anyone idea why >>60803110 says they're shit?

>>60802140
Me? Upset? I'll have you know that my Sennheisers haven't even snapped yet. I think you're the upset one here.

What is the second best $200+ bang for buck headphone after the HD600?

>>60803419
I didn't say the Q701 was shit. I said that other guy's gaming headset is shit.

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>>60803458
>>60803086
>sennshill this fucking butthurt I shat on his favorite company
This is why I snap-post. Out of every fanbase, every headphone manufacturer, Sennheiser fanboys are the most rabid and the most unable to accept that their headphones are flawed. Keep snapping, boys.

>budget
$70 or less, I can go higher if necessary.
>location
US
>source
Desktop PC
>type of headphones
Full-sized
>open or closed
Closed
>comfort level
As comfortable as possible, while remaining in the budget and the head-phones not being garbage. Comfort comes before sound quality, to a certain extent.
>sound signature
Neutral, but don't really care unless it's extreme.
Please help.

>>60803503
HD600

>>60803156
pls respond

>>60803510
Thanks for responding, but I didn't mean four times the budget when I said I could go higher.

>>60801082
>bluetooth
>noise reduction
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
>>60803492
>f-bomb
I wasn't baiting because that would be against the rules, but if I was, hypothetically, then you just hypothetically responded exactly like I wanted you to. Hypothetically.

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>>60803492
rrly mks u thnk

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>>60803538
>heh, I was only pretending to be retarded. you got tricked kid
>>60803539
lol, I love how sennshills cling to this one picture for dear life. It's so pathetic

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>>60803549
Just buy a new headband for like 10 bucks. Versus this AKG shit. What's the point of your shitpost?

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>>60803588
>10 bucks
>TEN BUCKS
>being this disingenuous
Why can't you just admit the faults of your favorite headphone like everyone else?

>>60803549
The thing is, I wasn't pretending to be retarded and I wasn't being retarded. The HD600 is clearly the best bang for buck headphone over $200. That's why it is by far the most commonly recommended $200+ headphone in these threads, but I know you'll just say it's because of "shills."

>>60803624
Ignoring sound, they have really really bad build quality. And sound doesn't really matter because HD800 anon says you can equalize all headphones to be the same anyways.

>>60803638
>caring about build quality
Only a filthy poorfag would care about build quality. See, I can be retarded like you too!

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>>60803615
>COMPLETE SENNHEISER HD 650 HEADBAND REPLACEMENT AND PADDING

Do you even read what you shitpost? If you don't like the headband you can 3d print your own. In fact: https://www.shapeways.com/product/9QKXAU59F/sennheiser-replacement-headband?optionId=40248216

>>60803654
>See, I can be retarded like you too!
No, you're just retarded. That's not an argument.
>>60803662
Show me where you can buy a headband for ten bucks. Go on. 3D printed is not an argument because it's shit and a meme.

>>60803503
CB-1/XPT100

>>60803671
shhh just let yourself get btfo in peace

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>>60803703
>make no coherent arguments
>haahahha btfo xD

I've been popping into /hpg/ once every few weeks or so for the past couple years. Just how long has this autistic shitposter been trolling and posting snapped Sennheisers on a daily basis for? He's doing in in every thread I've ever been in.

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Some HD600/650 owners wise up - they go out and buy a headband that won't snap and mod the thing onto their headphones. Is that something you should have to do for a $300 headphone (other anons disingenuously claim the HD600 is a $200 headphone when it is clearly not). I wouldn't mind having one of these.

>>60803757
What the fuck is that? I want it.

>>60803156
Fuck you fags I pray the ones I got fit good

>>60803815
That headband looks like that one old experimental Sony open headphone's headband. Forget what the fuck it was called. Precursor to the MDR-MA900. I could be wrong.

>>60803913
Nevermind, it's not an MDR-F1 headband.

headbands are a meme

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>>60801011
Destroyed aesthetics on my hf5 but they're comfy and will never lose its softness.

Ask me anything

>>60804282
Do they still require deep insertion? Do they change the sound?

>>60804297
Not quite as deep, but they still get to the section of your ear where it gets smaller. The bass I'd say becomes hummier, but it's very subtle. If you care about accurate frequencies I wouldn't use foam tips in the first place. But for casual listening and not audio mixing it's fine.

>>60804318
>The bass I'd say becomes hummier, but it's very subtle.
Does the bass increase or decrease? Can you estimate by how many decibels?

>>60804339
It increases, I'd say almost 1 dB. Again, it's very subtle. If you own some etymotics I would try it out, I personally prefer them to flange tips because it creates a much better seal, also doesn't irritate the insides of my ears.

>>60803113
Sony at 3?
Based on what, the MDR-V6/7506? Because the MDR-1A or MDR-Z1 sure as fuck don't justify 3

>>60804791
You can't completely get rid of it with EQ. Only partially.

>>60802275
is this the first launch?

>>60803086
AKG > AT > Sennheiser = Beyer (depends what you want > sony

>>60805786
You hate bass, huh?

>>60803492
Are there any known issues like this with HD 280 Pros? Those are my only Sennheiser headphones and they haven't really had issues.

>>60805904
If you mean headphones that don't even produce mid range or highs, then yes.

Sony has by far the largest ratio of shit compared to good headphones out of the bunch.

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https://exhentai.org/g/15335/8d37ce8cc3/
Just passing by

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Kill the shill.

Since the 598 cs has lower impedance than the second version, would getting a fiio e10k do anything even though there's no static (without mic)? Also, every time my mod mic 5 turns on it produces static hissing noises in my sennheiser hd 598 cs. Would using the Antlion usb adapter reduce it via bypassing the analog based interference? Or would it be better to get an external sound card instead?

>>60806498
completely detach the cables from one another

if you plug in the mod mic in this scenario, is there a hiss in the headphones?
If not, the problem could be that it carries over between the wires somehow

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>>60806323
I wonder if there's headphones with the maid thing built into the headband
similar to those cat ear ones

So I just bought Jaybird x3s. Should I feel justified in my purchasing decision or should I kms?

>>60806880
Use them a few days. If you like how they sound and feel, then who the fuck cares what we say?

>>60803733
I think relentlessly shilling hd600's and claiming any other headphone is shit is more autistic than that

I already know I'll get laughed at but one thing I do not understand about my Schitt Modi 2 crapping out on me. It keeps giving me "not recognized by windows" messages and above all, when the USB is plugged in during the BIOS and Windows splash screen, it completely freezes it until I unplug it.

>>60806666
It persists despite being away from the headphone cable.The sound also still produces if I place it in the front panel or the back panel. The front panel produces louder and better sound for both the headphones and the mic at the cost of more static. I'm led to think that the front panel wires it touches/near due to cable management causes some interference, especially since it's an analog connection. Since static is present in both cases, this led me to think it's the MSI mate Z97 motherboard that causes the interference with the analog connection. But the headphones by itself has no static so I'm not sure if it's the motherboard.
With all this in mind, I thought that using a usb adapter to change the connection to have a digital processing with an analog interface. My thought process is that it'd reduce the interference going to the motherboard as I heard the Antlion usb adapter do for some people. The other aspect to consider this adapter is that it would give more voltage to the mod mic as I sorta think that the mod mic might need more juice that my typical port connection can't give (but the adapter might give more). Still, I read that the Antlion usb adapter only lowers the static and not completely eliminate it.
From this process, I've come to consider an external sound card or a usb adapter (with enough driving force) to help against static/hissing background noise.

>>60807039
Might be a driver issue.

>>60807039
Definitely driver issues. USB audio is hell.
On windows, 10 is much better than 7.

>>60807082
I'd just get a xonar internal sound card.
Is there static on the microphone?

So, I need a replacement cable for my se215, is sweetwater the only legit option I have ? I tried those cables off eBay, but that shit came apart like a melted laffy taffy

>>60807475
>melted laffy taffy
pics please

>>60807082
I'd suggest a good USB dac+amp like the fulla2, which will have a black floor even with garbage usb power. Not a cheapo china one which might have poor filtering.
Alternatively, any plugs-into-wall amp+dac will sidestep the issue, but they're not anywhere as convenient.

>>60807623
Lmao, I threw that shit away . i put the drivers on the cable but when I realized the rubber around the mini jack was too big it was pushing against the surface of the device and barely made contact, I tried taking them off and it just came apart . I'll probably get a new pair of shures since I already bought the triple flange tips

Does the dragonfly dac actually bypass the devices sound and improve it or is that a meme?

>>60807957
it is it's own DAC, so yes, it does. Not a meme.

>>60807473
Yes, whenever the mic powers on, it produces static feedback/output.

>>60807834
I'm not so sure that a dac/amp without a mic port would reduce the sound that the mic makes. The headphones don't produce any static until a mic is plugged in. The static is present in recording after all.

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I got stuck in time after purchasing my HD 600 6 years ago so I have no idea what's on the market.
Dad's looking for something to watch movies at night, must be closed-back and will be powered from his marantz amplifier.

I think Beyerdynamics DT 770 250ohm will be a good choice (can't find 600ohm version).
Thoughts?
He's not deaf but prefers slightly V curve.

pic unrelated

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>Budget
$200
>Location
US of A baby
>Source
my phone
>Type of headphone
in-ear
>Open or closed
IDC
>Comfort level
Theyre in ear this doesnt really matter just buy foam things?
>Sound signature
I like good bass but neutral is also good pic related is top 15 so whatever is good for that type of music.
>Past headphones
Beats, and apple earbuds looking for something more high quality sounding, I dont really have a refined palette when i t comes to sound and music but I'd like to get a taste of good sound and become more musically inclined.

>>60801333
>600 snaps
huh? never heard o f it.
I have my hd600 for like 6-7 years now, use them everyday for 8h+ and nothing bad happened to it.
Only cable failed, so I replaced it with HD650's and problem solved.

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I'm an iPhone 7 user who's sick and tired of using the Aux-to-Lightning adapter that constantly breaks.

What's a good pair of bluetooth headphones that offers similar quality to the ATH-M50X? My budget's around $150.

>>60808254
>iPhone 7
>cares about audio quality
pick one and only one

>>60808106
>The headphones don't produce any static until a mic is plugged in.
Do not playback the mic unless you need to. Record only. As to getting rid of the noise, get a better soundcard and/or mic.

>>60808244
The snapheiser is a regular troll, just ignore his posts.

>>60808208
bump

>>60807957
>Does the dragonfly dac actually bypass the devices sound
Yes.
>and improve it
It's a bad DAC. If yours was even worse sure it's an improvement.

>>60808277
Would a usb adapter not work?

>>60801011
>around 150$
>Hungary
>pc, I'd like something that doesn't need an amp
>full-sized
>preferably closed
>I'm going to use it a lot, so very comfortable
>no preference here
>nothing that's worth mentioning really

>>60808485
It would. A decent one would, at least.
Issue still might be the mic.
Is it a shitty <$10 one, or something serious?

>>60803503
>>60803700
Definitely this with your budget. I'd opt for the CB-1 aa it has a 3.5 detachable. If that's not a priority, the Somic mm185 is the same thing without the detachable for less.

>>60803757
Looks cool, doesn't look all that comfy.

>>60808515
It's basically this.
https://antlionaudio.com/products/antlion-audio-usb-adapter
Though I'm not sure about the degree of which it would eliminate mic static noise.

>>60807957
AudioQuest DACs are terrible vs price. Consider Schiit Fulla 2.

>>60808107
DT770 or Custom Studios, same drivers as DT770 80 ohms.
Best closed until the $400 price range.

>budget
£300-400
>type
overear + open

looking to see what are the contenders for this price range; i've got the gear to power anything

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Bit of a long shot, but any guesses as to what sort of material the U shaped joint (connecting the bands/earcups) on the Audio Technica AD900s is made out of?

All marketing material says magnesium frame, but it appears to be plastic. Unfortunately I don't know anything about plastic so can't tell what type it is.

tl;dr - Looking to buy some glue.

>>60808208
>that top 15
hahahaha.

>>60808859
Back to /mu/

>>60808875
Yeah, go back to /mu/ white guy.

>>60808752
>Best closed until the $400 price range.
DT770's got terrible FR.
mdr-v6 is both cheaper and better.

>Budget
$200
>Location
US of A baby
>Source
my phone
>Type of headphone
in-ear
>Open or closed
IDC
>Comfort level
Theyre in ear this doesnt really matter just buy foam things?
>Sound signature
I like good bass but neutral is also good pic related is top 15 so whatever is good for that type of music.
>Past headphones
Beats, and apple earbuds looking for something more high quality sounding, I dont really have a refined palette when i t comes to sound and music but I'd like to get a taste of good sound and become more musically inclined.

>>60808107
DT770 offers a V-shaped response, stable seal, good isolation and comfort. A pretty solid choice.

>>60808928
Best closed V-Shape under $400? Probably.
Best closed under $400?
Debatable.

>>60808956
monolith m560

>>60808840
HD600, HD650, DT880, X2, HE400i, K712
>>60808975
PM-3 or Beyer Custom Studios

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Redpill me on this

>>60808975
>Best closed under $400?
What would you consider to compete with it?

some people on /mu/ told me to come here
redpill me

>>60809150
Under $400, I think it's all sound preference at that point.
Right at $400, TH-X00 would be a direct upgrade in my opinion from DT770's.
>>60809318
What do you want to get redpilled on?

>>60809545
redpill me on headphones

>>60801666
Not waterproof, no noise reduction, only 4 hours (+4 more with ugly big addon).
>>60803538
>>bluetooth
>>noise reduction
I want them for outdoors, so it's noisy and cable gets in the way.

Anyway, I guess I have another decade to wait.

>>60809006
i said in ears

>>60808840
With that budget, HD600, if you don't have it already, is the must-have one.

>>60809557
Space-efficient, cost-efficient, do not annoy your neighbours or, if closed, not even the people sitting right next to you.

Is this the HD600 shill thread?

>>>/mu/73249252
>>60809087
>>>/mlp/30262931
>>>/sci/8964057
>>>/lit/9612606
>>>/d/7468763

>>60809721
>browsing /mlp/

>>60809721
>>>/b/735178853

>Budget
$200
>Location
US of A baby
>Source
my phone
>Type of headphone
in-ear
>Open or closed
IDC
>Comfort level
Theyre in ear this doesnt really matter just buy foam things?
>Sound signature
I like good bass but neutral is also good pic related is top 15 so whatever is good for that type of music.
>Past headphones
Beats, and apple earbuds looking for something more high quality sounding, I dont really have a refined palette when i t comes to sound and music but I'd like to get a taste of good sound and become more musically inclined.

Fuckin answer me you cucks

>>60809784
>>>/fit/41729480

>>60809721
>>60809784
That's fucking funny. You'll some actual answers then redirected to some other random board. Traveling the world one board at a time.

>>60809545
>Under $400, I think it's all sound preference at that point.
Agreed. I think in terms of comfort it's hard to beat DT770.
The sound is obviously a V, but I don't the mids are as recessed as other v shaped headphones. Bass is probably the best I've heard.

>>60809813
Etymotic hf5

>>60809813
Etymotic HF5 if you want something neutral.

>>60809813
Etymotic has a lot of nice neutral IEM's. MK5/MC5/HF5 come to mind with foam tips.

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ZMF Atticus or Focal Elear?

>>60809835
>>>/bant/946631
>>>/gif/10729258

>>60810104
>>>/o/17340371

>>60810124
>>>/jp/17146732

>>60810212
>>>/out/1033965

>>60810290
>>>/vg/179160408

>>60810334
>>>/k/34197454

>>60809963
HD600.

>>60809686
No, but I suggest HD600.

>>60809963
Dont cry.

>>60810384
>>>/lgbt/8407424

>>60809925
>>60809903
>>60809902
those are like $100? i was looking for 200 range

Would it be a good idea to buy HE400i if I have a HD600? It's only $250.

>>60810464
The next step up is $350.

Buy the ER4XR if you can afford it.

>>60810486
HE400i has more sub-bass and more treble response at the expense of upper mids, this can be EQed into the HD600.

No point in having two open headphones.

>>60810486
Yes. Planars are just different my dude, go for it.

>>60810511
Well, I'm just interested in planar headphones. Which one would you say is better for classical music?

>>60810486
HD600 is the only open headphone you'll ever need.

>>60810558
There is nothing different on both that can be achieved with EQ. I'd say the HD600 would be better for classical, whereas you'd enjoy the HE400i with music that uses constant bass notes.

>>60810492
would 1more triple drivers be a good alternative if i wanted more bass? or will i lose noise isolation and sound quality making that switch?

>>60810460
>>>/pol/129046883

>>60810590
It's preferences.

Budget
$200
>Location
US of A baby
>Source
2011v3 motherboard with on board audio
>Type of headphone
Headset, I need a mic with it or a mic option included in the budget.
>Open or closed
IDC
>Comfort level
Doesnt matter, coming from what I did anything is better.
>Sound signature
Pref anything with good highs and mids so I can hear shit on the map. Using it for gaming.
>Past headphones
Afterglow AGU.50.

>>60810627
>>>/po/553823

>>60810715
Beyer custom studios

>>60810576
Prove that you can EQ a headphone to sound exactly like another headphone.

>>60810752
>>>/m/15599259

>>60810464
Those are the best between 100-200. Price doesn't correlate with quality.

>>60809094
*wood cracks*
just get the 1060s, just got my pair and it's pretty damn great once you adjust your EQ for the 5KHz spike

>>60810825
http://seanolive.blogspot.com/2016/04/a-virtual-headphone-listening-test.html

What do I win?

>>60810834
>>>/toy/6365275

>>60810872
>The test was essentially no longer blind.
Oops. Looks like you win nothing.

>>60810894
>More importantly, "Do the actual and virtual headphones sound similar"? To answer this question we performed a validation experiment where listeners evaluated 6 different headphone using both standard and virtual listening methods Listeners gave both preference and spectral balance ratings in both standard and virtual tests. For headphone preference ratings the correlation between standard and virtual test results was r = 0.85. A correlation of 1 would be perfect but 85% agreement is not bad, and hopefully more accurate than headphone ratings based on sighted evaluations.

Looks like I won after all, and that's with trained listeners, not shitposting retards like yourself that pretend to be audio experts with zero listening skills.

Now piss off kid.

>>60810893
Well, that's a bummer.

>>60808254
basically >>60808262, but if you absolutely have to then check out v-moda's offerings. I assume you'll listen on the go and VM is stupidly durable

>>60810923
>Finally, it's important to acknowledge what the virtual headphone method doesn't capture: 1) non-minimum phase effects (mostly occurring at higher frequencies) and 2) non-linear distortions that are level-dependent. The effect of these two variables on virtual headphone test method have been recently tested experimentally and will be the topic of a future blog posting. Stay tuned.
You still win nothing. What a joke.

>tfw another pair of kz ate s came in
>feelsgood

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I wish these had more pressure on my head, there's quite a bit of lows lost due to not having a perfect seal

>>60810944
That's why we use headphones with low distortion, and an 85% agreement between TRAINED LISTENERS speaks for itself.

>>60810872
>arguing with the Snapheiser troll and not noticing his trap word "exactly"
Really? You're going to be here all day.

>>60811018
>muh trained listeners
kek.
Anyways you have to provide proof about the green text in my last post. Can you do it?

>>60810893
>>>/y/2403847

>>60811067
>>>/hm/1564799

>>60811065
With good headphones the variable with EQing is the fit (bass leakage and treble response). You can read about this on rinchoi's blog as well.

>>60811091
That's not proof. Also why should I care about what some chink has to say on an unrelated topic.

>>60811105
You can see the discussion on bass leakage in Sean Olive's blog post above. Visual/weight biases play no part in strictly sound.

>>60811077
>>>/qa/1381745

>>60811123
>Finally, it's important to acknowledge what the virtual headphone method doesn't capture: 1) non-minimum phase effects (mostly occurring at higher frequencies) and 2) non-linear distortions that are level-dependent. The effect of these two variables on virtual headphone test method have been recently tested experimentally and will be the topic of a future blog posting. Stay tuned.
Provide me with proof that this stuff doesn't matter.

>>60811168
>non-minimum phase effects (mostly occurring at higher frequencies) and 2) non-linear distortions that are level-dependent
You do realize they're using 'good' headphones for these EQ tests, right? These things literally do not matter when there is a smooth FR with bandwidth 20Hz-20kHz and low distortion.

>>60811141
>>>/adv/18398794

>>60809721
Aw, shucks.

>>60811005
You can try bending the bars on top to increase clamp. I've done it with my 668B's for the same reason and was successful in doing so.

>>60811238
Even "good" headphones can have distortion and ringing. Still waiting on proof though.

>>60801333
Provide scientifically rigorous proof that Sennheiser headphones break at a higher rate than other manufacturers' headphones.

>>60811398
Ringing was never audible on headphones, feel free to prove that it ever was a problem.

>>60811423
Proof for your claims buddy. I never said it was audible, just that it may or may not be and until there's proof we can't say otherwise.

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>>60811399
this, beyers are just as susceptible to breaking when obese ham hands like >>60801333 use them violently

>>60811443
If it not's audible then there is no reason to discuss it in the first place. The point was that you can take a 'good' headphone and make it sound like another 'good' headphone.

You can make a Sennheiser HD600 sound like a LCD-2 and vice versa.

Discussion's over, kiddo.

>>60811463
But you haven't proven it's not audible. And you have failed to provide proof of the equalizer equivalence of headphones other than the single article you have posted which even acknowledges that there exist differences which may or may not be audible beyond simple frequency response.

>>60811485
Then prove that it's audible.

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>>60811446
>faggot headphone with dildo treble raping the eardrum

>>60811493
Why? I never made that claim.

>>60811503
Then it's not worth discussing.

>>60811515
You made the claim that its inaudible and refused to provide proof of your claim.

>>60811526
Surely if it was audible there'd be proof of it.

>>60811561
Fallacious argument.

>>60811585
I know, but ringing isn't audible.

But you could always prove me wrong.

>>60811600
But I never said you were wrong, only unproven. And you still have failed to provide proof.

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>arguing over EQ when you can just buy a perfect headphone that doesn't need EQ like pic related

Now the question is can I EQ my speakers to sound like headphones?

>>60811645
It still needs EQ to make up for the bass roll off.

>>60811672
Prove that the HD600's frequency response is not subjectively perfect for listeners of patrician taste.

>>60811704
>it doesnt need an EQ
>AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME TASTE AS ME WHICH IS ALSO PATRICIAN
fuck off

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>>60811704
He can't.

>>60811704
>still salty he got btfo for trying to put words in others mouth and getting them to prove shit they never claimed

>>60811252
>>60811141
>>60811077
>>60811067
>>60810893
>>60810834
>>60810752
>>60810627
>>60810460
>>60810384
>>60810334
>>60810290
>>60810212
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>>60809721
Our brave soldier tried to travel the boards of 4Chan and has fallen. Can we have a moment of silence for this courageous man in search of an answer?

>>60811738
I don't know who you think I am as I haven't been following the thread all that closely but I'm not who you think I am, apparently.
>>60811734
Are you accusing me of being retarded for asking for proof of something which I knew could not be proven?
>>60810825 >>60810825 >>60810825

>>60811795
>you can't ask for proof of unverified claims to point out how unverified they are
EQ has become a religion to some people.

>>60811817
Being "that asshole" who always feels the need to smugly correct others with minor technicalities based on obscure, technical, barely if at all relevant details is just being a retarded dick, stirring up conflict for the sake of stirring up conflict. We all know damn well that tiny little details like phase effects and distortion are either inaudible or barely audible in any halfway competent headphone and thus represent maybe 0.1% of a listener's enjoyment factor at best, but you just had to be that asshole who pointed out almost completely irrelevant technicalities with a prompt you intentionally worded to be unprovable.
Yes, you were technically correct, but you intentionally went about communicating it in the most smug, dickish, conflict-stirring way possible.
Your life must be pretty shitty if all you do all day is troll headphone threads on a website for people who jack off to drawn 12 year olds.

>>60811986
>Being "that asshole" who always feels the need to smugly correct others with minor technicalities based on obscure, technical, barely if at all relevant details is just being a retarded dick, stirring up conflict for the sake of stirring up conflict. We all know damn well that tiny little details like phase effects and distortion are either inaudible or barely audible in any halfway competent headphone and thus represent maybe 0.1% of a listener's enjoyment factor at best, but you just had to be that asshole who pointed out almost completely irrelevant technicalities with a prompt you intentionally worded to be unprovable.
What you really meant to say is that I beat you at your own game.
>Yes, you were technically correct, but you intentionally went about communicating it in the most smug, dickish, conflict-stirring way possible.
You lost, therefore you must assign me some moral failing. Next time don't make retarded claims and you'll maybe "win" the argument.
>Your life must be pretty shitty if all you do all day is troll headphone threads on a website for people who jack off to drawn 12 year olds.
You're right here with me buddy.

>>60812044
I'm not the idiot you were arguing with. I'm the guy who pointed out your trap word "exactly."

>>60812065
I merely rephrased what the other poster said. He trapped himself.
>There is NOTHING DIFFERENT
>NOTHING

>>60810866
You can't get rid of it with EQ. Not even with mods.

>>60812117
>put -100 decibel filter at 5 kHz
>5 kHz will still be louder than its surrounding frequencies
This smells like bullshit. You must be arguing that something else will be left over after EQ like resonance or distortion. Please elaborate if that's the case.

>>60801011
So I got Superlux HD-668B's and HD-669's
My HD-668B's got chink velvet pads and are really comfy, but in a noisy environment I sometimes am in for long times the 668B's just arent as good as the 669s due to being semi-open I believe, they let too much background noise from fans in (room with rackmount servers)
The 669s are really great in this environment as they offer pretty good isolation from the noise since they are closed, so in isolation I really do prefer them in my situation, but they arent near as comfy as my 668B's with the chink replacement pads and make my ears sweat when the velvet pads dont

So I was thinking of buying chink pads for the 669s too but I am concerned that would the velvet pads affect isolation a lot or something, as in the room I use my 669s in, the isolation is important. I would love to have my 669s as comfy as the 668B's but with that isolation they got by stock. So anyone with more knowledge, would cheap generic velvet ear pads affect isolation a lot?

got the etymotic mk5 and wew, these eartips are like reusable q-tips.

>>60811760
F.

>>60811760
>>60811805

>>60812188
I have the 668B and SR950 (669 Rebrand). Don't put chink K240 velours on the 669's. You lose isolation and the bass in general is reduced while keeping the bloat. You might want to look into Brainwavs' new round pleather pads (only available on their site).
>>60812331
Our messen/g/er will rise from his grave like a phoenix and continue his mission to find his answer.

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>>60804282
I think they look cool, reminds me of the HD414.

>>60802211
I have beyer dt150 and like them. Good isolation and pretty neutral response.

>>60812416
Thanks, I used these on 668B's I believe, and I really do like 668B's + these pads on a normal environment but they just let pretty much all background noise in when I am in the room with servers running, the 669s are simply a lot superior due to the isolation

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Velour-Velvet-Ear-Pads-Cushion-For-Superlux-HD-HMD-Series-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/261643450065?var=&hash=item3ceb2a36d1:m:mJBw0HuE_0f8Nolkzf-XWFg

I found a lot of pads on the brainwavz site, which specific ones are you talking about and is there other options for 669 which could make them more comfortable but still keep the isolation, and cheap preferably too as I am a poorfag which is why I use superluxes

>>60812530
https://www.brainwavzaudio.com/collections/round-headphone-earpads/products/headphone-memory-foam-earpads-round-protein-pu-leather-various-colours
These pads came out not very long ago apparently and should fit on the 669 with a bit of stretching. I've heard the regular oval HM5's are a bastard to put on the 669 so these should be less of a hassle to get on.

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>>60811704
Senn HD 600 used and equalized.
>Sunder et al., Effect of Headphone Equalization on Auditory Distance Perception
>F. Fleischmann et al., Identification and Evaluation of Target Curves for Headphones

>>60811600sage
>ringing isn't audible.
Statement is too broad. A contradiction is easily produced.
More specific examples can be provided on this topic. The first examples I could think of.
>F.E. Toole, S. Olive, The Modification of Timbre by Resonances:Perception and Measurement
>D. Toledo, H. Moller, Audibility of High Q-factor All-pass Components in Head-related Transfer Functions

>>60811652
Synthesize appropriate inverse room function in frequency domain.
Compute IDFT of filter.
Apply convolution to signal.
Position ear at exact position of test microphone.

>>60812117
>>60812153
Statement is very broad.
Magnitude shifts can be imposed as easily as you can multiply one number by another, as might be implied by the convolution theorem.
Inverse of all pass shifts are not explicitly causal, so we may be forced to introduce linear phase error/latency to compensate. We might do this if we are concerned with phase error/envelope distortion.

>>60812678
fuck off nerd

>>60812771
snapheiser anon pls go, that guy is the only one who posts good stuff in these threads

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>just EQ it
>I totally don't regret my purchase

>>60813230
It'd be interesting to see how EQ affected the decay time of said resonance.

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Who /never upgrade/ here?

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>>60813292
SBAF are scared of equalization.
They'd rather talk about cohesive and expansive DACs.

>>60813368
>gooey
Please tell me this image is satire.

>>60803086
AKG

>>60813368
>Yggdrasil
>great value

>>60813406
It's made by a SBAF staff member. They seem to be very serious about it: http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/marveys-dac-chart-of-awesomeness.63/

>>60813462
Oh Jesus. I've always appreciated Marv's measurements but dear God, the autism is strong.

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>>60813515
How deep does the rabbit hole go?

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>>60806323
ohh I dont have some of these

>>60813552
They really need to just stick with objective measurements and leave it at that.

>>60813462
Redpill me on these super expensive DACs. Literally what the hell could they put inside these things to make it cost this much? I'm assuming they're just using some older CMOS process (which shouldn't be expensive) and maybe some exotic semiconductors that could potentially drive the price up but no way it should cost this obscene amounts of money. Are they justifying all of this as just R&D cost?

>>60807163
>6 and you're probably not getting the he1000

wow fucking cheap chinks.

>>60813596
>Are they justifying all of this as just R&D cost?
My best guess is they're just trying to see exactly how much money they can fleece out of idiots by advertising it with a bunch of ambiguous buzzwords like "gooey," the same business model that expensive cable manufacturers use.

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>>60813552

>>60813688
>plankton
What did they mean by this?

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Alright /hpg/, time to play "What's in the box?"

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Sorry to post this here, but there really isn't a better thread.

Anybody have subwoofer experience? I found this woofer in the garbage, so I'm assuming it's broken but physically it looks fine aside from one of the cables on the remote looking like it got cut. Also, from what I understand subwoofer's normally have a LFE cable but this one just has left and right inputs in yellow and black. Is there anyone with experience with this woofer that can quickly tell me what model it is and how to quickly check if it's functioning or not? Do I just use regular ass audio inputs or do I need LFE cables? I've never setup a subwoofer before and I can tell this is some kind of shitty computer subwoofer included in a set so I'm sure it works differently than normal.

>>60813292
It would suppress the resonance significantly.
It seems resonance concerns are more a sideshow as far audibility goes. While they provide some information about the design and construction, the results do not appear to strongly correlate to impressions.

>>60813596
The converter itself is a large array of trimmed resistors(segmented R-2R and thermometer parts). An expensive proposition on the best of days. Uses four of them, about 50 dollar each.
Other expenses, FPGA to do oversampling and filtering, enclosure, audiophile ideas of circuit layouts, etc.

>>60813795
Headphones

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>>60814092
Which ones?

>>60813849
It belongs to a Logitech Z-2300, it's a self-powered amp and stereo system. I don't know how you'd be able to hook that up without using the built in remote.

>>60814133
Playing with it I found out that it does need LFE inputs, 3.5 audio jacks don't fit. Aside from the remote, it seems like a standard subwoofer honestly. I'm going to try to buy some LFE cables and see if I can get any sound to output at all. Depending on the results I may or may nor just buy a new remote on ebay.

Garbage diving is fun

>>60813849
you'll need this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-Z-2300-z-2300-Subwoofer-Control-Pod-Bypass-Cable-with-volume-control-/320754353482

by the way, do you have the left/right "tweeters"?

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So I've been using the Koss Porta Pro for about 5 years now (3 different pairs). I want to upgrade to something more neutral and preferably more closed for on the go.
Are the MDR-V6 any good?
(I'm using the ATH-M50 at home, how are they, resolution wise, in comparison?)

>>60814233
>3 different pairs
they've got a lifetime warranty, you nigger

>>60814277
Lifetime doesn't mean infinity. To my knowledge, it means 2 years in the EU (and one pair was purchased used in Japan so I don't even know about that one)

>>60814233
>more neutral than Porta Pro
>closed
You'll have to pay a lot for this. It's a lot harder to make great sounding closed headphones than open, and KSC75/Porta Pro are way more neutral than you would expect for the price.

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>>60814320
Is that so? They sound rather bass heavy to me (and that's coming from someone who uses the niggerbass m50 at home). Anyways, 80€ is my limit, what would (You) suggest?

>>60814343
It's hard to go wrong with MDR-V6 or MDR-7506 in your price range, but they're not any more neutral than PortaPros. They're just more V-shaped as they have more treble. If you think the PortaPros sound bass heavy then you'll probably find the V6/7506 more balanced sounding because of the extra treble, but more balanced sounding doesn't mean more neutral. V6/7506 are balanced sounding but V-shaped headphones.

>>60814382
I see. Didn't know about that type of distinction, looks like I have some reading to do.

>>60814395
V-shaped means elevated bass and treble at the expense of the mids. PortaPros are bass-heavy headphones and MDR-V6/7506 are V-shaped. Neither are particularly neutral or more neutral than the other, yet both are particularly neutral for their price.

>>60814455
V6 have neutral bass. They're bright, not V shaped.

>>60814622
Objective dummy head measurements of V6 will consistently demonstrate boosted bass in comparison to anechoic chamber dummy head measurements of speakers which are neutral in an anechoic chamber.

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>>60814622
"No."

>>60814741
wrong
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDRV6.pdf

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>>60814622
Still "No."

>>60814777
>in comparison to anechoic chamber dummy head measurements of speakers which are neutral in an anechoic chamber
This means, essentially, free field curve. The measurement you just posted is The Independant of Direction curve compensated, which is much closer to a diffuse field curve than a free field curve. It's also probably a poorly-sealed measurement, but that's besides the point. Posting flat bass on an IoD curve compensated graph does not refute the statement made by >>60814741
I am not advocating use of the free field curve with this post. I'm merely pointing out a logical fallacy it appears you have made.

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>>60814777
>>60814890
In fact, comparing Innerfidelity's raw V6 response to this (inverted) graph of the compensation curves for Innerfidelity's dummy head, the V6 clearly has boosted bass in relation to both the free field and diffuse field curves. Only the Independant of Direction curve, which only InnerFidelity uses and which Tyll admits is "not an internationally adopted standard," says the V6 has flat bass.
Anyways, this graph in conjunction with Innerfidelity and Headroom's raw measurements of the V6 clearly shows that the assertion in >>60814777 that the statement that >>60814741 made was incorrect was, in fact, an incorrect assertion, and that the statement >>60814741 made was correct.

>>60801333
I've had my HD598s for years and it has never cracked or shown any signs of breaking. Maybe your fat ass can stop sitting on your headphones cause they are not meant to handle 300lbs of lard on top of them.

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Overhyped garbage? The dt880 sucked donkey balls, but the dt770 was bretty impressive when I tried them in the store. Not like fidelio X2s but I dont think anything under 500$ can eve compete with those. But I need closed backs now.

>>60814890
>This means, essentially, free field curve.
i know what it means. why would you assume i didn't?
>The measurement you just posted is The Independant of Direction curve compensated
the measurements i just posted also show the raw measurements in grey.
>It's also probably a poorly-sealed measurement
5 trials and no good seal? don't think so. even K550 can get a sealed properly on tyll's rig.
>I am not advocating use of the free field curve with this post.
why do you say so much redundant shit?

go back to school, dumb fuck

>>60815223
>the measurements i just posted also show the raw measurements in grey.
Those raw measurements show boosted bass in relation to the free field curve, meaning >>60814777 was incorrect in saying "wrong."

>>60815244
the sub-bass is quite clearly lacks extension

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>>60815244
Oh, yeah? Watch this.
H A R M A N C U R V E

>>60815314
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/KossPortaPro.pdf
So does the PortaPro, yet >>60814343 finds them bass-heavy (because they are).

HD 558 or HD 579?
First one is £40 cheaper.

>>60815377
The discussion quickly becomes absurd once you introduce objective measurements compensated by a compensation curve derived from subjective preferences.
I personally think that headphones tuned to the Harman curve sound bass-heavy, but that's my opinion.

>>60801011
I'm looking for closed, somewhat portable headphones, this is what i consider, for now:
M40x (99€) + HM5 pleather pads, not angled (29€) + 1.2m cable /w mic, angled (15€) = 143€
MSR7, no mods or cables needed = 180€
I watched some vids and read some reviews. As far a i know the M40x are fairly neutral across the board while the MSR7 are similar but a little on the bright side, right?
Bass should be roughly the same on both. Question is, are the MSR7 worth the premium? Also, i read that M50x are not worth it, at all, is this true?

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>>60815378
because the upper bass is bloated as fuck. that's not the case with v6. apply the FF curve to the raw measurements and you will find that it stays between the trial with the most and the trial with the least amount of bass.
stupid shit. im done.

>>60815425
That's not the free field curve for Innerfidelity's dummy head. It is not applicable to this conversation. The free field curve for Innerfidelity's dummy head is the red line on >>60814999
The V6 will display boosted bass in relation to the red line on >>60814999
>because the upper bass is bloated as fuck. that's not the case with v6
That's correct. The V6's upper bass is slightly bloated, not bloated as fuck.

>>60814121
What's in the box?

>>60815409
The human ear + mind is inherently a subjective thing. You also have to consider neutrality from a mastering point of view. Considering most consumer gear out there is bassy, music logically would be mastered to sound good on those headphones. So perhaps a more bassy headphone is closer to what a majority of artists intend. Is that "neutral"?

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>>60815467
These Chinkheiser HD 25-1 II's

>>60815496
Hey there, "Ass Ketchup".

>>60815507
Hi father

>>60814225
I got two speakers in my living room where I'm trying to set it up, standard 5-6" woofer and 1-2" tweeter thing. I'm just trying to use it as a regular subwoofer hooked up to receiver, not a computer subwoofer. As far as I can tell, the remote just manages volume and bass while also providing a headphone jack. I'm sure if I can get the woofer to make any noise at all I'll probably consider it.

>>60815470
Modern music sounds too bassy to me on Harman curve tuned headphones, but I recognize that most average people like very bassy sounding music. I prefer what I think sounds like a well-balanced mix of bass, mids and treble, something like the ER4S. Different strokes.

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Got my first pair of headphones for ~$100, kind of a shitty marble texture, but did I do okag besides that?

>>60815826
>$100 for those
Send it back.

>>60815826
> for ~$100
how?

>>60815853
he paid a basketball american to steal it for him

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>>60815826
>~$100

>>60815826
You just bought the best ~$300 headphones on the market for $100.

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>>60815826
>~$100

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Picture of the texture I was talking about, I picked them at best buy for a little over 100, but I know the amp is where things get expensive

>>60815826
>100$
Pics of bill or gtfo.

>>60816047
Schiit Fulla2 will drive them just fine for $99.

>>60816047
Give it back Jamal

>>60816047
>>60816309
You'll probably get enough volume for your taste out of a Fulla 2. Probably. Some people like music so loud that it damages their hearing.
In any case, the Fulla 2 can function as an amp+DAC or just as a DAC. My best advice is get the Fulla 2 and if that's not enough volume for you you can get a Magni 2 and use the Fulla 2 as just a DAC.
Of course, if your onboard audio is actually loud enough for you, you don't even need the Fulla 2.

>>60815410
M40 has a 2.5 detachable, so make sure whatever mic you get accommodates that.
CB-1 sound just as good, don't need pads, are cheaper, and have a 3.5 detachable so any cable will work. The Status Audio flat cables are quite nice as well.

MSR7 will sound best probably if you don't mind slightly bright, and they'll be comfier than the M40, maybe not the CB-1 by looking at the pads.

M50x are overpriced, stay away. If you want v shaped get Beyer Custom Studios or DT770.

>>60816410
Yeah, most AMPs seem overly expensive for something I don't necessarily see as necessary, but everyone says they are

>>60815404
Bump

>>60815410
>M40x are fairly neutral across the board
They're slightly v shaped, MSR7 are closer to neutral.

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>>60803113
>being this butthurt

>>60803588
thats not as crack m8, its some fucking pocket lint

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have very bad static/interference when mdr-v6's are plugged into desktop

would a DAC fix this? What's are cheap DAC's to look for? Don't need anything fancy just functional enough to not deal with this shite

>>60816410
I've never had my Fulla 2 past 12 o'clock listening to quiet music with 8 db's of preamp reduction with 600's.
I don't see how anyone could need more volume than what it provides. Protect your hearing for fucks sake.

>>60816458
They're only necessary if you're not getting enough volume from your current source, or there is hissing or some kind of interference.

>>60816457
CB-1 is not what i'm looking for. Some reviews on Amazon hint questionable build quality.
I'm not so sensitive towards highs, so MSR7 are fine?
Have DT770's and love them. Unfortunately it's a pain to carry them to office and wearing them in public makes me look like an autist. Other than that.. yes.
That's the main reason i'm looking for something new. I want something i can wear at office or while on the train.

>>60816473
M40x are V-shaped? First time i read that.

Thanks to both of you. If you'd listen to mostly rock and EDM, which one would you get, M40x with mods or MSR7 stock?

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>>60815826
>>60816047
>$100
senncuck poorfag can afford headphones that last

New thread:
>>60816553

>>60815826
I got mine for 70 dollars some years ago. 100 should be a great price these days.

>>60816557
>Some reviews on Amazon hint questionable build quality
>Listening to Amazon reviews
>Not knowing all headphones under $100 are plastic chinkshit

M40 or CB-1 are gonna look just as autistic as DT770 I'd say, if not more so.

If portable is your concern and money isn't, go MSR7.
Creative Aurvana Live aren't too autistic looking and sound good for cheaper.

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>>60809963
Elear, easy. I'm sure the Atticus is fun but the Elear is just objectively more balanced. If anything the Atticus measures like an Elear with a big mid/bass hump and highs that get janky and spiked as they go down.

>>60810486
>It's only $250
where? they used to be $400 on sale

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>>60811704
I'm an hd600 owner and yes it needs some bass boost in eq, even a bit of highs tweaking, same as the q701 and a bunch of open headphones. without the bass boost it sounds good, but with obviously lacking extension and body that is important to most kinds of music. even without eq though it doesn't sounds as thin as say the 598.

>>60813348
I have mad dogs, if that counts. never getting rid of them but I think the PM3 or th-x00 might be an upgrade, if only by a bit.