/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Freetype 2.7+
FONTS pasta
http://ix.io/w6A

>I want a "lightweight" distro (no bloat / base only)
>Not Arch or Gentoo

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer

you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:

apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm gnome-themes-standard breeze-icon-theme

>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
/ ~1gb; ram usage tty ~25mb, i3wm ~50mb

============================
>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot script inspiration BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter

init=/usr/bin/runit-init

4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference

pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd

>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds

>>60791156

>lxdm
There's no reason to use that over LightDM with the GTK greeter.

>>60791156
>how to jump through hoops for Arch without systemd

How about simply not falling for the Arch meme?

Fedora amd gpu

How do i get the options to change rgb full and limited? Thank you and rip ian murdoch, crazy man led astray by evil woman

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>>60791156
Is this rendering bad?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>60791434
sudo /etc/init.d/myservice start
sudo /etc/init.d/myservice stop

Hello /fglt/. I just bought a new laptop for 400€. This is actually my first laptop and I'm quite excited.

Which distribution do you guys use on your laptops? I've mostly used Gentoo and Fedora on my desktop but I don't feel like ricing or customizing the laptop, I want it to "just work" and have a great battery life. Should I just throw Ubuntu MATE LTS on it and upgrade every two years? Debian should be easy as well but I don't know anything about laptops and Ubuntu MATE seems to come with all the power management crap and bluetooth.

>>60791552
debian is most stable
fedora is alright
all real distros work fine on a laptop.
everything supports bluetooth, everything has good power management

>>60791580
Thanks! Is DE choice noticeable in the battery life of a laptop? That's the main reason I'm considering MATE over GNOME. The CPU and RAM usage is much lower on MATE.

>>60791598
obviously, use lxde or cinnamon or maybe mate i havent used it in ages.

>>60791243
>LightDM
There's no reason to use that over startx with the CLI greeter.

>>60791342
Looks ok to me. What font?

>>60791458
*sudo systemctl start myservice
*sudo systemctl stop myservice

>>60791156
Which are "additional pkg groups"? (Pic or smth) ;_;

>>60791737
Nvm

>>60791679
Serif. It's just plain vanilla Antergos

Is jumping straight into Gentoo autism? I used Ubuntu in the past so I'm not exactly totally inexperienced, but I'm just on Windows now. Also I'm not a brainlet, at least not to the point I can't follow instructions from a guide.

>>60792191
stop spewing shit for one. Gentoo is fine

>>60792191
Try to install Arch first.

After you've succesfully installed Arch, remove it and go for Gentoo.

If you can install Arch you can install Gentoo. If you fuck up Arch installation you won't lose the compilation time like you do with Gentoo.

Otherwise, no. I went straight to Gentoo and everything went fine. [spoiler]That being said, I'm on Ubuntu again. Trying to fight it is a waste of time.[/spoiler]

Does anyone use Plasma 5 and chromium is sort of laggy for them (mainly scrolling doesn't feel right).

>>60791458

: >/sbin/init

Good thread

does anyone have any idea why mesa won't complile? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/FFcStoW1W9NJPnuIDcDR/
https://ptpb.pw/1ULQ

I heard that Ubuntu is going to Gnome.
Is that out yet, and if so, how do I upgrade to that when I'm using a Unity Ubuntu.
Note that I do not want to switch to Gnome unless it's the default Ubuntu Gnome version.

>>60791666

There is if you want a graphical login screen.

>>60792688

>Note that I do not want to switch to Gnome unless it's the default Ubuntu Gnome version.
Then wait until Ubuntu 18.04 comes out and download GNOME then.

>>60792732
So it's not out? I must have thought it was 16.04 that was going to get it.

Any idea when 18.04 will be?

>>60792758

Look up the Ubuntu release schedule and naming convention.

0.235138
platform wdat_wdt: failed to claim resource 4: [io 0x0073-0x0074]
0.235148
ACPI: watchdog: device creation failed -16

I get this message on startup after selecting arch from grub.
It persists for a few seconds then the system continues to boot into gdm. Any ideas how I can fix it?

>>60792839

Test out another distribution. See if you have the same messages and errors. If not, it means it's something Arch related. Then look up into those specifics or ask on the Arch forums.

>>60792688
get 17.10 daily builds

>>60792758
>Any idea when 18.04 will be?
April, 18?

since all variables must be quoted, what do with for loops like

for i in $items; do

?

>>60791006
So is there a way to write custom terminal commands? Im looking for a way to launch Doomseeker / Zandronum without having to first cd their directories then ./program. ioquake did this by default you just type ioquake3 from anywhere and it launches.

>>60793284
what shell are you using?

>>60793174
In this case you actually want word splitting.

>>60793284

#!/bin/sh

set -e

cd DIR
./PROGRAM

>>60793284
Add your desired binary in your /etc/profile or ~/.profile

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/117467/how-to-permanently-set-environmental-variables

>>60793314
>sh
>-e
Classic. 10/10

>>60793284
Not sure if thats the right way to do it. The programs should have a config that defines a standard directory.

>>60793284
If you don't want to bother with adding directories to $PATH and so forth the easiest way to get what you want is alias

alias doomseeker='/absolute/path/to/your/binary -whatever -flags -you -wish -to -add'

Put it in .bashrc or .bash_aliases and just launch a new shell session (restart terminal)

>>60793335
Why?

>>60793387
>>60793356
>>60793328
>>60793314
>>60793300


thanks everybody getting this working right now

do you guys consider MacOs as a part of the linux family ?(even if its not linux)

i own a workstation running Debian 7 and im considering buying a macbook pro (late 2015) should i do it ? -> im a highschool student, that interested in IT security and programming overall

Regards, Duchy

>>60793612
no.

>>60793612
It's not part of the Linux family (because it's not fucking Linux).
macOS is Darwin, which belongs to the BSD family of systems. BSD family of systems belong to Unix.

>im a highschool student
Global Rule 2. I'm sorry friend.

>>60793641
why not ? please give me some reason why shouldnt i buy it. thats alot

>>60793667
which global rule did i violate ? im 18 already

>>60793612
It should do great for your needs, 2015 Macbooks still had all the necessary ports and macOS is still unix-certified so all you can do on linux you can do on macOS (except obvious ricing)

>>60793737
thats exactly what i was thinking, thanks for the reply.

>>60791006
>be white
>things doesn't go my way for once in my life
>kms

>>60793758
no prob, I'm considering switching to macOS as well so report back if you find anything weird. this thread still applies to anything unix-based or unix-like. Just dont expect magnificent support from people who use linux :V

>>60792191
i was a similar user. familiar with desktop linux, could do basic terminal commands, but eventually went back to windows.

then I jumped straight into Gentoo a few months ago. Went through the entire install process about 5 times, with a lot of research and printing out guides/handbooks. It took 3 days before I was using Firefox comfortably.

No, compiling from source did not take 3 days. If I knew 100% exactly what I was doing and could type commands with 0 delay, the entire install process from wipe to Firefox would take 1-2 hours. But I don't know exactly what I'm doing, so those 3 days were spend reading, reading and reading. I would write out a list of each command I needed to run in order, and when something didn't work, I would go back and figure out which step I needed to change. Often it was just making a typo in and important config.

I would recommend it. It's gonna suck, you're gonna have moments where you think "fuck it I'll just go back to Ubuntu instead", but if you persevere, you'll end up with a 100% stable desktop that only has exactly what you want installed on it, and everything compiled from source. It's a comfy feeling.

>>60793522
The posts wasn't ironic.

>>60793784
im already trying macos for a month (2011 macbook air 11") and for my needs i love it so far, only thing it lacks is ram, but even with 4GB its able to run 3 vms at the same time, which is impressive. I love the build quality, it just feels.. right. comparing it to my current ThinkPad running Ubuntu, im impressed. And definetely going for a macbook pro with the retina screen.

>>60793737
>>60793784
>tripcode
please go back to rebbit

How can I limit bandwidth on my network? I want to experiment with some network speeds as I browse the internet and want to limit it on the machine I'm using.

>>60793758
>falling for some random troll

>>60793867
I use wondershaper, it's pretty straightforward.

>>60793874
dont blame me, my first posts here.. came straight from /b and /pol .......

>>60793877
Wow, it's just a simple bash script. I don't think I'll be finding a program as simple as that, thanks.

>>60793667
bad is not unix; it not Unix, the system, nor UNIX, the trademark

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>>60793387
Did I write these correctly? They aren't working for me.

>>60793931
# denotes a comment

>>60793969
>alias doomseeker='cd /home/blahblahblah/build/; ./doomseeker'
disgusting

>>60793931
alias doomseeker='(cd /home/blahblahblah/build/ && ./doomseeker)'

>>60793938
thank dr stallman

>>60793986
I see you don't like organization on your file system. Simple names, with small folders make navigation in something like ranger much more enjoyable.

>>60793981
>>60793990
i'll try those thanks

>>60794024
nice strawman. you have to be retarded to not know whats wrong with it.

>>60793877
I like how wondershaper is a frontend to tc. I think I'll read up more on tc and iproute2 tools.

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>>60793969
>>60793990
Why?
You specify the path of an executable file you don't have to be in the directory with it.

>kubuntu
>don't like plasma, install other wm
>NetworkManager gets auth error
How can i stop NetworkManager from launching in specific wm only?

>>60792191
>Is jumping straight into Gentoo autism?
Kind of

>I used Ubuntu in the past so I'm not exactly totally inexperienced
It really depends what do you mean by that
For some people "being familiar with Linux" means not getting lost when they see Firefox instead of IE

As other anon suggested, you can try Arch instead of Gentoo first because you won't lose time on compilation

>>60794116
Because these programs expect subdirectories they load shit from in the current path.

>>60794119
Plasma is not a "wm"

Also what do you mean by auth error? NetworkManager is a global system service

>>60794145
>Because these programs expect subdirectories they load shit from in the current path.
you should read some manuals before """"attempting"""" to be helpful. thats not how you limit the program to its directory.

>>60794175
You have no idea anon, download the program and try it yourself. Then shame yourself.

>>60794195
its time for you to install windows

>>60793855
tripcodes are as much 4chan culture as anime.
>>>/r/4chan

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>>60793981
>>60793990
>>60794145

Thanks guys I'm going to write some more aliases for certain programming applications. I appreciate the help with 'muh games'

>>60794296
Np

Which distrib would you recommend for a small webserver with PHP7 ?
What DE would you recommend for managing it ?
Is Webmin the shit ?

Do you have success with a webserver on a Pi ?
A quick build for a Seafile server is slow as fuck on it but I read everywhere that it's enough for a small userbase.

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>>60794249
4chan at one point was nothing but tripfags

>>60794386
>What DE would you recommend for managing it ?
Lmao

Get Ubuntu, I guess

>>60794386
>Which distrib would you recommend for a small webserver with PHP7 ?
anything
>What DE would you recommend for managing it ?
ssh

>>60794409
>>60794428
I have to do backup from a GoogleDrive account (we're moving to Seafile) and it's a pain in the ass without GUI.
>anything
PHP7 isn't in Debian Jessie (waiting for Strech) and CentOS.

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>>60794475
kek its in gentoo stable

>>60794506
>falling for the gentoo meme

>>60793284
put a symlink to you're executable in you're $PATH.

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>>60794519
but stallman told me so

>>60794519
you got me!

XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>60794604
You fell for a meme, son.
https://stallman.org/to-4chan.html

>>60794604
Reminds me a bit of the alt-right Taylor Swift meme. 4chan can be evil.

>>60794519
But gentoo is unironically the best distro

>>60794699
noob here, why is gentoo considered as best distro? isn't the whole compiling thing just a waste of time?

I keep getting timed out errors when using pacman on Manjaro in Virtualbox
I tried fixing the mirrors in many ways but it always timeout
It's a firewall problem or what?

>>60794724
it is a thoroughbred hobby distro.

>>60794724
"install gentoo" was /g/s was to say "lurk moar", since the install process is pretty long and requires lots of reading, its also a troll replacement for "delet system32".

>>60794475
You don't need GUI to migrate from Google Drive since you can download the backup from any PC with a browser first and then upload it to your server via ssh

>>60794724
bc reddit came along, being stupid like always, and actually installed gentoo, because it got told to

>>60794724
Gentoo is pretty cool when you want to customize your packages a lot with non-standard compile flags, like, removing some features to make a program faster, or adding features. You can do this with other distros too, but updating isn't comfy like on Gentoo.

>>60794724
Gentoo is secretly best distro because it has objectively most feature-rich package manager and generally closest to upstream

>>60794849
but what if I just want to customize 2 packages? then I'm stuck with hours of compiling my whole system, just for 2 custom packages, thats inane tbqh

>>60794803
No for the moment Unison is checking if everything is the same on both base.
We still have people using GoogleDrive.
And there is no official client for GoogleDrive on Linux, so I'm using a Fuse mount (I've found RClone, gonna try it to) and Unison is running on both GoogleDrive and SeaDrive Fuse.

>>60794856
I really miss Gentoo's license-filtering on Arch.
Arch is sometimes really too tryhard with its simplicity.

>>60794892
GNU/Linux*

>>60794879
>then I'm stuck with hours of compiling my whole system
lmao, you act like you have to sit at a black screen until it completes

>>60794940
Well, when got a dual core, that's basically it.

>>60794964
ask your parents for some money to upgrade your mobo and cpu.

>>60794007
>dr
stallman isn't phd

>>60795137
he got like 40 dr's

>>60791598
I'm using lxde for my laptop

>>60795169
it's considered bad to use the doctor title with a honorary doctorate

>>60795185
I'm runing arch btw

>>60795238
Using a title is bad.

>>60795169
honorary doctorate is not a real doctorate.
he never finished mit

>>60795271
please jump in a lake

>>60795294
I'm not trying to play him down or his role.
He has a bachelor degree in physics from Harvard and let's stick with it.
It's extremely silly of him to request people to refer him to per Dr. He's not a doctor and calling him a doctor would be disrespectful to all the people that earned their doctorate through hard academic work.

>>60795412
The point is: He doesn't request people to call him Dr.

>>60795488
He does by putting Dr before his name everywhere he can

>>60795533
That's not requesting.

>>60795538
Yeah sure he does it for the lulz, whatever lets you sleep at night lol

>>60795412
Whatever makes you rage at night, lol.

>>60794149
well then kwin on kde/plasma or whatever...

here's boot.log:

NetworkManager[832]:manager:NetworkManagerisnowCONNECTING
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):change:prepare->config(reason'none')
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):(wifi)accesspoint'network1'hassecurity,butsecretsarerequired.
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):change:config->need-auth(reason'none')NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):statechange:config->need-auth(reason'none')
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):agentswereavailableforthisrequest.NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):Noagentswereavailableforthisrequest.
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):change:need-auth->failed(reason'no-secrets')NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):statechange:need-auth->failed(reason'no-secrets')
NetworkManager[832]:manager:NetworkManagerisnowDISCONNECTEDNetworkManager[832]:manager:NetworkManagerstateisnowDISCONNECTED
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):failedforconnection'network1'NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):Activation:failedforconnection'network1'
NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):change:failed→disconnected(reason'none')NetworkManager[832]:device(wlan0):statechange:failed→disconnected(reason'none')

it's got something to do with gpg/kwallet, but i think it's faster just to stop that service from starting.

Maybe

systemctl stop NetworkManager.service
systemctl disable NetworkManager.service

?

Is using httpie instead of wget/curl worth it? Does it make any things better?

>>60794964
To be honest most packages build in a matter of minutes even on really old hardware by today's standards
Or you can build in one thread or leave the updates to perform overnight, or step away from your computer for a couple of hours once every half a year or so
It's not really a big problem and usually outweighed by distro's benefits

I have a computer with Arch installed. I haven't booted it for ~6 months. It was poorly maintained even before then. What steps should I take to get a reasonably functioning system? sudo pacman -Syu and pray?

>>60795588
Well you can disable NetworkManager but it will break you current networking unless you'll set it up without NM

I don't use NM but I suppose you can just reconfigure your wlan0 not to use kwallet or something. Try checking "avaliable to all users" in connection options so it'll make connection's config system-wide, maybe it'll stop relying on users environment.

>>60795622
>Does it make any things better?
Are things bad right now?

>>60795738
It seems to be the flavor of the month. Twatter'd and blogged everywhere.

>>60795622
Been playing around with it, colors etc are nice, but well, python has its downside of executing slow.

I got a VPS that stopped working when its access to internet dropped out suddenly and it didn't automatically reconnect. I realized I didn't know how to reconnect it via cli and ended up rebooting it. How do I avoid that in the future?

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>>60793612
>im considering buying a mac
>interested in IT security
Pick one.

>>60796067
What does that even mean

>>60796067
read its manual and learn how to restart it in your init system if necessary.
also consider not going to sites that would cause your provider to temporary kill your connection.

>>60796467
99% of VPS providers connect their machines via virtual ethernet device
These are usually managed by dhcp and do not need restarts or anything, even if provider's network goes down, since dhcp client will poll for a new lease on it's own

Dude suicide lmao!

Just found this site, pretty cool for testing http stuff. https://httpbin.org/

(still playing around with httpie)

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Not really lincucks question (still, I'm on Arch right now) but where do I get firefox css files that will make its look more compact than the default one? I know about the twily one but I've been using it for too long, mostly looking for ways to hide/get the urlbar tweaked.

>>60797105
>I'm on Arch right now
instant upvote

>>60797105
>lincucks
gtfo, this is GNU county

>>60797105
wow i use arch too xD!

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>>60797134
my nigga

>>60797105
There are some standard configs everyone is copy pasting, one is twilys, the other one is http://noha-ra.deviantart.com/art/Melbourne-Firefox-CSS-FF-29-and-above-473887761 (pretty outdated).

Your best bet is to start costomizing twiliys config. That way you learn some css and when FF starts changing shit, you know how to fix it.

>>60797105
Not a very friendly post. Please rephrase

>>60797181
oh fuck! so do I, arch fa-m arch fa-m fa-m!

>>60797105
>I will add some random anime picture and use stuffs like "cuck", then they will think I'm /their guy/ and answer my question, hehe

>>60797215
>fa-m
Looks like shit t b h f a m.

>>60797272
fa-m tb-h smd-h

>>60796530
Yeah this but journalctl kept reporting dhcp failing to connect to eth0 or something. A restart fixed it but I guess I should have tried restarting dhcp client first.

I just setup xdmcp so I can remotely login using lightdm.
Is there however a way that I already login on the server with my thin client from the thin client's lightdm?
aka I enter my username and passwd in the thin client's lightdm login screen and I choose the device to login to, namely the server (or something like that)

>>60795713
Just boot it, backup data and reimage the computer.

The updating will be just fine, but probably some WM/DE api might have changed putting you back on the default config/config with errors.
If that doesn't bother you, go ahead.
Ofcourse, make sure you know how to access the boot partition and edit any errors, just in case.

>>60797821
no thanks

>>60797725
The updating won't fuck everything up severely as in wiping /dev/sda, no, but the system will probably be in an "unclean" state. How do I maintain an installation long-term without this happening?

>>60797875
Depends on what you define as "unclean".
I consider mine unclean after a while of configuring stuff to for example setup dnsmasq or PCIe passthrough, configuring shit I most likely don't need and will fuck stuff up later.

Best way is to update regularly, and read the news for any changes.
Or go Debian and install once, stable forever, considering that you should update only security patches.

The way I do it is keep my user data on a seperate partition, wipe the OS when I deem it necessary and then just run an install script that sets everything up for me. That does require maintaining that script ofcourse.

b

really a shame that after all those years linux for desktop is still this mediocre. you always have desktop environment dying or new one being start while nothing really good is produced at all. we need centralization, we need linus torvalds to stop focusing on the kernel and to start a graphic environment for the user. one to rule them all.

and you, anon, what have you done to help linux for desktop?

>>60798008
>we need centralization
fuck off statist scum

>>60798008
no we dont
the point of linux/bsds is to customise it. one DE cannot suit all. why would a rasperry pi want to run KDE, and why would my super high end PC want to run LXDE? one size will not fit all

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>>60798008
>we need linus torvalds to stop focusing on the kernel
what do you expect him to focus on? the linux distros? the linux DEs? the linux filepicker? the linux userland? the linux icons? the linux music player? the linux font-rendering? the linux games? the linux laptops? the linux commandline?

>>60798008
Just use windows.
/closed, wontfix

>>60798034
GNU/BSDs*

>>60798112
focus on providing a full desktop environment for (gnu+?)linux

>>60798134
now with WSL, this is actually a conceivable solution: linux with desktop environment of windows would be neat

>>60798191
GNU on Windows*
The WSL actually replaces Linux; it converts linux syscalls to poo language that NT can understand.

>>60798218
>The WSL actually replaces Linux; it converts linux syscalls to poo language that NT can understand.
i know this is a formidable piece of software technology.

>>60798218
>GNU on Windows*
posix and gnu are two different things.

>>60798008
You're asking for a monopoly. Do you really want a monopoly? The whole glory of GNU/Linux is its flexibility.

>>60798236
POSIX isn't an operating system.

seriously, guys, don't you all see that we need a centralized desktop environment like systemd for initialization?

>>60798249
and what about the kernel then? and gnu? if you look at all the desktop distributions, 99% of them are based on gnu.

>using linux distributions for years now
>comfortable with everything
>even package some software myself because it's cleaner and because i want additional tweaks
>still trouble compiling a kernel

I looked at the Arch packaging script for it and it's ridiculous how many things you have to do. I don't even know where to start. ;_;

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>>60798249
Where's the problem?

>>60798305
day of the rope soon

What are the advantages of Nautilus over Nemo?

>>60798334
nemo is a fork of nautilus without the window decoration you see on gnome applications.

>>60798334
nautilus is what comes out when gnome tries to be "lightweight"; remove useful features
neo is what comes out when you fork nautilus and keep these features

Hey guys, relatively new to Linux and still looking for a OS/DE I feel comfortable in. I've done everything from Xubuntu to Arch/Gnome, and I want to try BunsenLabs Distro but during the installation it doesn't detect the Ethernet card on my T470 and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get it to work.

Also, does anyone have a Lo/g/os ISO? That shit looks like maximum comfy but the MEGA Link is dead. Thanks in advance.

>>60798473

You can install Openbox and tint2 on Ubuntu.

How do you verify if a bash script is malicious or not?

>>60798510

By reading it.

>>60798508
Lo/g/os

>>60798508
And BunsenLabs is Debian based, which is a million times better than botnetbuntu

>>60798563

Where's the botnet in Ubuntu?

>>60798610
Yes! Good Goy! Amazon is included in ubuntu to improve the experience of its users. There is no telemetry or phoning home to amazon with the included Amazon Software, don't be so paranoid.

>>60798534
Are there specific bash commands I should be wary of?

>>60798563
>>60798610
>>60798652
It's literally just unity that's the botnet. Lubuntu,xubuntu,kubuntu, etc all use the exact same repos as unity ubuntu and they're botnet free.

>>60798652

It's not included, you idiot. You have no real knowledge but the one you see others post on here.
Amazon integration is/was exclusive to Unity. You can install Ubuntu from the net installer and not install Unity, you idiot.
Kill yourself, retard.

>>60793612
Mac for the Unix...
Thats not that great of an idea, Apple does not care about the terminal stuff.
If you want the mac for the hardware, just buy one and install Linux on it.
Install a flashy version like Elementary or Zorin OS if your in to that kind of stuff.

Anyone else reporting the retards who just discovered g and are posting the interjection? I do.

>>60798814
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as g, is in fact, /g/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /g/ - Technology.

the "unix" meme needs to die. why are people referring to "unix" when they talk about bsd, gnu and macOS? non of these are unix systems, only one of these are UNIX(TM) systems (macOS)

unix was a nice idea and systems are created with unix in mind, but they aren't unix; they were written from scratch

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>>60798841
>macshitos
>unix

Pick one.

>>60798859
macOS is bsd with UNIX cert

>>60798869
So when someone has enough sheckles for an UNIX certificate, he can make his system an UNIX system? lmao

>>60797537
You might want to contact VPS support about, dhcp client should not need a restart

I used 3 different VPS providers over 5 years or so, and never had problem like this one

>>60798008
>and you, anon, what have you done to help linux for desktop?
I send small patches here and there but enthusiasts don't really have the manpower to do anything with linux desktop and companies have zero interest in it because it's impossible to make money off a free desktop (unlike other libre software)

>>60798890
thats exactly how it works
these are UNIX systems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#Currently_Registered_UNIX_systems

>>60798890
you have to pay to use the branding but you also have to comply to the certification otherwise the branding would have no value.

it's the same with the java virtual machine. you can develop your own virtual machine if you want but to brand it as a "java virtual machine", you have to pay Oracle first.

it's all about branding.

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what am I missing for flatabulous to work? I have all the dependencies

>>60798841
Unix was a mistake since it was proprietary. Luckily BSD and GNU fixed that problem.

That said, back in the days, proprietary actually just meant proprietary; there weren't faggots who wanted to spy on you, sell your data, etc, so, don't be too mad to the Unix guys.

That said, BSD was a mistake since it enabled apple to rape them including granma and dog, in return, BSD is sucking the stale cum coming out of the clang pipeline. That's what happens when you don't protect your free software.

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>>60799064
>you also have to comply to the certification

Do we know how Ian kill yet? Suicide? Shot by cop? Drugs?

>>60799158
Source? I need an archive.is link for great justice.

>>60799181
It was ruled as a suicide.

>>60799181
Meanwhile we "know" he hanged himself.
For a long time all we knew was "he passed" according to the blog. Use your favorite search engine.

Does anyone have the Lo/g/os ISO?

>>60799207
The lo/g/os github project provides a iso from, I think 2016, there was a 2017 link (check the archives, it's a mega-link), but that link was pasted after the project was already dead.

>>60799196
>>60799202
But he said that he will devote his life to police abuse just before his death.

So he got arrested breaking in, released sometime later, and hung himself after he said that he won't hang himself? Suspicious.

>>60799234
http://weev.livejournal.com/415737.html

>>60799234
It is, but you need to add to your calculations that the guy was drunk as hell when posting on twitter.

>>60799181
He died in a fight with the cops. It was a cover up made to look like suicide involving drugs and psychosis.

Ian died leaving the normiehood /ourguy/.

>>60799303
It's triggers my autism. I want to know what happened, but all I'm able to know is what wikipedia/the media allows me to know. On the other hand, maybe it its okay, since it is his private life. Still feels bad man. He started the best disto and then passes away and nobody knows why.

>>60799257
I guess it may be suicide after all, but looks like cops did prove him to do it rather than trying to prevent him doing it.

Rest on penguins Ian ;_;

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>be ian
>fall in love
>shes so perfect, just like the distro you're building
>she gives you love and power to build it
>you call it after her+you, deb-ian
>time passes
>everything goes downhill
>deb-ian
>you get divorced
>deb-ian
>you go to the local pub and cry tears into your beer
>deb-ian
>you pass out at home
>deb-ian
>you wake up
>cops knock on your door
>some girl-cop is being an ass
>deb-ian
>you REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>you tell them, you tell them online
>I AM NOT YOUR NIGGER YOU FUCKING SLUT
>deb-ian
>you cry
>get a new bottle
>deb-ian
>you realize theres only one solution
>deb-ian
>to find peace
>with her
>deb-ian

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>>60799438

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>>60799438
stop

I downloaded an LTS version of Ubuntu, but don't want to have outdated software. Is there a way to turn LTS Ubuntu into normal Ubuntu? I don't want to reinstall everything, because I just finished setting everything up (installing the programs I need and logging into accounts, networks, etc.).

>>60799528
sudo do-release-upgrade

>>60799528
Whatever you do, you should A L W A Y S backup.

Save this post, print it out and put it under your pillow.

>>60791552
Fedora Xfce, the patricians choice of OS.

>>60791598
LXDE is the best lightweight DE

>>60792232
No I don't think so

>>60791434

curl -sSL git.io/pizzza
http -Fb git.io/pizzza
wget -qO- git.io/pizzza

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>>60800000
*snap*

Is it possible to use iptables as an adblocker?

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>>60800000
neat, moar?

>>60800067
All made by xero.
This one loads all of them using brace-expansion:

wget -qO- git.io/{burger,coffee,pancakes,pizzza,pizzzza,poptart,rice,taco,unix,vburger,waffles}

>>60800096
I remember some /fglt/ fag making som LEWD ansi art like this. Anyone saved them?

Hey guys
>>60794296 back from earlier
none of my aliases are saved after I reboot what could cause this? I'm using nano to write them.

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How do you know if your GNU/Linux install is compromised by windows malware?

>>60800313
Install Mcafee

>>60800161
save them to ~/.bashrc
>>60800313
common sense
>>60800335
suicide

>>60799536
It says "no new release found" and nothing happens. I'm still on LTS.

>>60800347
Figured out I needed to save to ~./bashrc after I found a forum post thanks though. Do you know why bash_aliases resets?

Friendly reminder that this thread was named "Friendly" in order to NOT bully noobs and instead to showing them the way to the holy land.

This includes.
- Do not suggest Windows as solution; friends don't let friends use Windows.
- Do not suggest death, in any case, if OP is a faggot, tell him anyway how it works in order to spread information so disinformation can die, if OP is stupid, teach him anyway; also stupid people deserve freedom.

tl;dr; be an important part of the digital society instead of funnyjunk cancer

Thanks for listening.

>>60800335
i guess this post was meant to you >>60800417
kek, no bully

Lo/g/os ISO anybody? The link is expired.

>>60800025
I'm not sure

You have 10 seconds to name 1 non-shit icon theme. Go.

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Can someone help me out here, sorry I'm new to git. I had a google and couldn't find the answer.

I'm trying to write an .sh script to back up a latex folder. is there a way I can hard code in the authentication so I don't have to put it in each time?

Thanks in advance

>>60800644
Where do you want to push it ? Github ? Generate a pair of RSA keys and add your public key to your github account. There is a tuto on github :)

>>60800717
Yeah github, thanks a lot for the info!

>>60800637
Papirus

>>60800000
I use aria2

Is Installgentoo wiki up?

>>60791006
gonna install gentoo, wish me luck guise

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I'm looking for either one of these to enable college math laziness:
>a graphing calculator as good as my Casio fx-9750GII, with textbook-style input options
>a desktop client for Wolfram Alpha with textbook-style input options

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>>60800637
Moka

>>60800741
shit
>>60801326
shit

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>>60800597
Releases: https://github.com/install-logos/logos/releases

logoslinux-2016.02.27-dual.iso: https://mega.nz/#!vocnTSDR!I4dpkby6Dew3O0ur3BUJEX1ULJDFMX2tLjFfX3-BWKw

>>60800637
acyl

>>60801683
Thank you so much anon, all that popped up was the expired github link in google

>>60800861
Good question, tried to figure out to make aria becave like curl, no luck so far. ;_;

>>60801826
>google
botnet; do not use
use searx instead or another search engine that respects your benis

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>>60801683
does this make me part of the botnet

>>60801906
searx is a metaengine.It searchs google

>>60801698
shit

>>60801946

megadl 'https://mega.nz/#!vocnTSDR!I4dpkby6Dew3O0ur3BUJEX1ULJDFMX2tLjFfX3-BWKw'

>>60801976
Your point, retard?

>>60801946
>>60802001
this.
dont use a shitty addon when a feature rich commandline application exists

>>60801976
it doesn't matter what searx is using since you, the user, don't contact the servers; searx does it for you. You get results without being spied on.

>>60802038
>without being spied on
tbqh, it serves the same "security" like using ddg. you don't know what version of searx searx.me or any other instance is running, unless you run your very own version.

That said, it's still better than using Google, which is confirmed PRISM.

>>60802111
Afaik DDG isn't even free software.

Hey, fuck you microsoft fags if you're in this thread. Stay the fuck out of my head.

>>60802131
Doesn't matter when you use it as software substitue.

>>60802135
They're posting among us, running Win10 with Fedora installed from the appstore, asking how to grep.

>>60802150
>They're posting among us, running Win10 with Fedora installed from the appstore, asking how to grep.
fuck it, teach them anyway
as soon as they taste the blood of gnu, they may even go balls deep

>>60802177
Why? They have muh games and the cool 1337 bash shell. What's the point of switching anyway?

So my laptop died and I'm going to start using an older one for the time being.

Is there some kind of a list or something where I can lookup my laptop model/hardware for it and find the most recent distros compatible with it? I tried using the most recent version of ubuntu, but apparently graphics drivers are no longer supported (RS780M). I just kind of want to see a list of distros/versions I can choose from that are still compatible with this laptop.

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>>60802215

>>60802235
Surely Ubuntu has the open source ATI driver.

>>60802289
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html

>>60802289
Funny thing about GNU/Linux is that intel, ATI/AMD offer libre drivers, only nvidia is pure proprietary and even the libre ones available were reversed engineered.

>>60802303
idgaf

>>60802276
Well I'm running ubuntu 16 right now, but because the drivers aren't supported. I'm guessing that's the issue, because everything seems to run fine on it, but whenever a video loads up the whole thing runs super slow and it can't playback the video for the first 30 seconds without getting stuck on like 3 frames. then I can't touch anything if I want it to work. The laptop isn't THAT old. I just want to be able to watch video without the whole thing seizing up.

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Does Stallman own a car?
I ask because I was driving around Cambridge, Mass the other day (near the MIT campus) and I spotted a 90s Toyota Corolla with a GNU sticker on the back. I assume it was just some random gentooman, but it made me wonder.

Does urxvt get any arguments from anywhere but .xresources? I've been changing this fucking file around for like an hour and it's still not listening to me. All I've got in it at the moment is

URxvt.font: xft:lucy tewi:size=8
URxvt.scrollbar: false

And that's literally it. I'm using wpg with openbox so I can easily theme everything but it doesn't make any sense that these two fucking settings won't go through.

>>60802753
You need to run xrdb ~/.Xresources in order to update to the new config.

Why did he commit sudoku

>>60802863
That didn't work either. It's weird too because wpg did change my urxvt a while back when I used it for the first time, I'm not really sure what I changed.

>>60797118
>>60797134
>>60797134
>>60797253
Wow, /g/ really is competing hard with /sci/ for reputation of the board for biggest autists.

Can someone explain taskset to me?

sudo taskset -p --cpu-list 3 5828

The program runs on CPU3.

sudo taskset -p 9 5828

Changes the affinity mask, and the program no longer runs on CPU3. What exactly is an affinity mask?

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Hi, /fglt/! I'm screwing about with Linux for the first time, using Ubuntu GNOME from a live usb. Just got finished with somehow managing to install MyPaint without knowing what the fuck I did or how it works :D

I have to say, this OS is pretty nice. It's certainly new, but I kind of like it. I was trying it out today because I bought a Cube iWork11 Stylus from someone on ebay for $100. He was selling it because the dual boot got fucked somehow and all it would do is boot to bios. Apparently he was incapable of googling how to reinstall/install an OS, so I just got a ~$300 penabled 2-in-1 with pen and keyboard dock included for beans. It should be here by Friday or Saturday of this week.

I've googled around and it seems that Linux support for 2-in-1 PCs is kind of abysmal at the moment, but GNOME, from what I hear, can work decently with them out of the box (touchscreen/wacom support, etc.) so I settled on it.

I haven't actually done much with it so far, but I like it. It certainly is strange after using nothing but Windows all my life, but it's not too bad. It's also pretty cool that I can run this thing straight from a flash drive. Using a new OS like this is rather exciting.

Hopefully GNOME works okay with the CUBE, my soon-to-be digital sketchpad/shitposting platform. I'm pretty pumped to try it out! I'll post updates if I'm successful.

You guys are absolute shit

What sort of programming language would I have to get into, to create an open source version of something like Daz Studio?

I realize this would be a massive undertaking for one or even a few neckbeards. I'm just curious

>>60803692
Good lord, the titlebar+tabs+url bar take up 1/4 of the entire browser window. Firefox and Gnome need to die.

>>60803810
Assembly

>>60803955
ho ho ho, at least you got dubs.

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>>60803955

>>60803955
>not fullpaging and taking advantage of those workspaces

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i bought a libreboot capable chromebook, i'm gonna go full stallman.

wish me luck

>>60800637

Faenza.
Adwaita has been catching up lately. I love their new directory icons. Too bad the MIME type icons have no real border, so they are barely noticeable with white themes.

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>>60804086

>>60804535
>not using Tomorrow when the rest of your system uses a dark theme

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>>60804535

Next step: disable titlebars for maximized windows, since you already see information about it in the taskbar.
Saved another 12px.

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Anybody used MultiSystem Boot?

>>60804548
I cleared my cookies earlier, still settling in.

>>60804559
I have two options, I can F11 and prevent hiding of the tabs, or I can hide the openbox titlebar.

>>60804724

I use Orcsome with Openbox to hide the titlebar on maximized windows.

>>60803692
what are you using to play e.v.o ?

new bread when

What do I need to do to learn loonix inside and out?

>>60805334
>Take a class
>Use it
>Read up on shit
I dunno, how do you learn something inside and out?

>>60805347
I've been using it for a long time but I don't know if I'm 100% perfect at it. There's a lot of shit I don't know.

I want to be a god at it.

>>60805372
>>60805334

Just get the kernel source and start reading it. Also read the documentation for the kernel and follow kernel mailing lists.

new thread when? :3

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>>60802691
>90s Toyota Corolla with a GNU sticker on the back
This was literally my plan, once I inherit my late grandpa's car. RIP.

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>>60804127
gl bruh

I currently have arch on my laptop and I want to use distro that "just works". Should I install ubuntu or fedora on this?

>>60805856
Debian stable

New thread: >>60806234