e-ink displays

Although I prefer actual paper books, e-ink displays are great. I've read a ton of books on my kindle I never would have read otherwise.

>>60777671
See, that's why I'm so tempted to buy one. I like reading books when I lay down before my night's sleep, but paper books are sometimes too cumbersome for the bed, plus you need a light source and I'd rather not have that.

But my problem is that for a tablet that you mostly use for reading ebooks, it's too expensive at $100+ (Relative to what you get).

If you can afford the space and money that paper books require, I think they're the superior option.

Reading from a regular screen for long periods of time feels a little stressful on my eyes, so I got an ebook. I am very satisfied with the purchase.

Just use your phone faggot

>>60777849
Fuck that.

>>60777642
Reading on my kindle is much nicer than using my phone/tablet. Also it's so easy to put any book I want on it.

>>60777913
Does it work well in low light environments? Does it strain your eyes at all? Sometimes I'm forced to read on my phone but I hate it, too much brightness, even on the lowest possible settings

>>60777642
Ex-XDA ebook Dev here.
Fuck them. Get a cheap tablet or a phone.
They are a meme.

If you have to get something get a Nook Simple touch with microSD reader and root it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWBcvWuWw_w

Readers are slow as fuck. You do everything on them slow and for what?

>>60778038
No, I just turn the brightness down to a comfortable amount but generally the most low light I read in is in bed with a lamp on.

>Too expensive
>Ebooks cost the same as physical copies, sometimes less, sometimes more but usually within 1-2 dollarydoos difference
neh

>>60778207
This. A Sage encyclopedia costs $240 on fucking Google play store. I could get a cheaper physical copy in mint condition

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>>60777642
Kobo aura one reporting in.
E-ink is way better than a phone or tablet for reading. Get one with a front light.
Post choices are Paperwhite and Kobo.
Check out #bookz and #ebooks for free books.
Check out calibre for library management, removing DRM, etc. It will automatically convert between formats as needed when sending to your device.

>>60778305
You retarded? It's all about stealing PDFs from Russia.

>>60778547
All readers are shit for reading PDF files. Period.

>>60778547
>Check out #bookz and #ebooks for free books.
IRC, now that's something I haven't used in a while

Also, there's this
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

If you read a lot of non-pdf material, I'd recommend one. You can pick them up used for cheap. I see them at thrift stores all the time. They can be slow, but no more slow than physically turning a page on a real book. The benefit of being able to pirate books and reading out of print shit is well worth it.

I have a Kobo aura I bought at Goodwill for 10 bucks

>>60778077
dumb nigger they are for reading not for your memes, they are good for the screen
>>60778207
>paying for books
hahaha

>>60778650
>Being that much of a leech in society

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>>60778568
>What is epub
>What is mobi
>What is cbz/cbr

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>>60778722

What's wrong with reading with phone? It's not like you will be read for 3 hours straight without any break. It's not harmful at all, I read about 50-70 pages per day.
captcha: ilit oculista

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>>60778956
>It's not like you will be read for 3 hours straight without any break.

i use a second gen nook for the gym, much better than trying to use phone. can get one for a whole whopping 20 bucks used

>>60778956
t. blind ADHD faggot

>>60779183
>Bringing your autism-device to the gym

>>60777642
I have a shitty cheap Kindle. I do recommend it. I've been reading a lot more after buying it. You just buy the tablet and send it your pirated books via email. It's nice.

>>60778077
>>60778650
this you retard. Literally only for reading books and non of this pajeet xda bullshit

>>60777747
>it's too expensive at $100+ (Relative to what you get).
A backlit, easy on the eyes, long battery life device that doesn't really ever need to be upgraded and has all of the books you could ever read ever for free.

$100 is the deal of a lifetime

>>60778568
use Calibre to convert the file to a more readable format you dumb fuck

>>60777642
E-reader with small bezels when?

>>60779639
who the fuck cares, you gotta hold something

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>>60779639
kindle oasis has smallish bezels on 3 sides

I think it would be nice if they made the entire device white and integrated the screen seamlessly, that way you don't have to waste e-paper pixels on the margins

>>60779687
You don't actually hold by the bezels I hope.
Holing it like a phone is more convenient.

>>60779730
Yeah because trying to balance it on my palm like a plate for hours at a time is SO comfortable

>>60779764
It takes no effort at all. Actually holding by the bezel is retarded.

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>>60779786
yeah holding it literally like you would a book is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

>>60779722
But then how would you hold the device without turning the page accidentally?

>>60779842
You can't turn pages if your thumb holds the bezel.

>>60779844
I guess the buttons take some force to actuate, also you could just hold them on the parts that don't have bezels

>>60777642
Just get a paperwhite and a cover that lets it stand over your stomach and you're good to go.
Use calibre to convert from other formats if you get the ebooks from "alternative" sources.

>>60777642
My kindle is my baby.
Would recommend.
Battery last a month per charge.

>>60779547
Usefulness shouldn't be the main argument for this price gouging. Ebook readers have been around long enough to justify a price reduction, it's not some amazing new technology.

I mean, from a business standpoint, it's retarded for Amazon to sell Kindles at such a high price since its main income will come from selling ebooks. Printer manufacturers do it, consoles do it etc, they sell the machine at a lowish price because they know the "byproducts" is where the money's at

>>60777642
Have a Kobo. love it.
Paper is nicer, but kobo + downloading books is cheaper.

I wanted a reader for manga but all the ones with non-shit resolution were really expensive. I ended up getting a Mi Pad 2 and I'm really happy with it.

>>60779950
It's a "high" price because they can't really sell you an upgraded model every few years like other electronics. Once they added the backlight, that was it. You buy one and use it until you break it or lose it.

>>60777849
Fuckthat.

>>60779950
Amazon also offers you tons of free e-books and its actually not that expensive considering the price of early ebook readers

>>60779950
>buying from amazon
when you cuqs will learn

>>60777747
Seriously, even discounting all the free books you can get, kindle books are so much cheaper than paper ones.

>>60781141
>kindle books are so much cheaper than paper ones.
no

>>60781178
$0.00 is pretty cheap

>>60781231
Free ebooks are absolute shit. There's a reason they are free

>>60781395
99% of books on amazon will be cheaper in their kindle format.

>>60781395
>he buys books/movies/etc

>>60781457
I torrent music & movies, but buy games & books, too many compatibility problems with torrented ones for my liking.

>>60781457
I never buy something that I can find through torrents, I don't give enough of a shit. The authors of any of this shit already has more money than I do.

>>60781457
Pirating books, movies etc in eastern Europe for personal use is legal. Sharing is caring.

>>60781395
$0.00, as in, IRC and libgen + Calibre

>>60781505
Just get epub and convert in case of Kindle.
Takes less than online payment (then again I'm paranoid and have to increase internet payment limit from 0)

>>60781505
>books
>compatibility problems
????
i guess it's pretty shitty when the only available format for an ebook is .pdf though

>>60781551
Sometimes calibre doesn't convert well from other formats.

>>60781594
it's only really pdf that converts poorly

I have a kobo but I don't use it because only faggots read books. The battery is great

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>>60781676

>>60778038
Kobo aura one can change frontlight warmth for this very reason.

>>60780634
Got any advice for an alternative? Really interested.

>>60777642

The kindle is good for fiction. The small screen is a pain in the ass for technical or anything that expects a full page display. I wish amazon would sell an updated larger kindle again

>>60781737
>$230
You have to be a literal retard to pay that much for a fucking ereader

>>60781758
Libgen and #bookz

>>60781868
or you know, not be poor
it's okay not to be able to afford the nicer things available out there you know

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>>60777642
android powered Onyx Boox

>>60781517
this

If you read a lot, totally worth it. Always have books with you, read random etexts and web articles too. Prefer Kobo with pocket.

>>60777747

>$100
>expensive

>>60781868
>he thinks $230 is too much for something you'll use for years
I hope you die, poor subhuman scum.

>>60777642
Of course they aren't.

>>60777849
>implying I want to read novels on such a small screen

Is there anything bigger than 6" out there? That seems much too small to read from, a novel is normally about 9" and more technical books can be much larger

>>60784115
Sony has a 13" one, I'd imagine there are ones between 6" and 13" as well.

>>60784115
buy glasses niggo
fucking eyelets when will they learn

>kindle oasis with 3g and no ads
>$379.99

I can buy a barely functional car for that.

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>get one of these for $30 new a few years ago during amazon Thanksgiving/Christmas sale
>ad version
>never use wifi, ads don't show up
>download ''''''free'''''' ebooks and manage with calibre
best $30 I've ever spent

>all those people saying e-readers are bad with PDFs
Unless it's a double column PDF, just put it in portrait mode and have half a page per screen.

>>60784198
>3g ereader
For what purpose? So Amazon can remotely delete your books when you're out of wifi range?

>>60777642
I got the paperwhite for like $100 bucks on sale. Love being able to have all my books available all the time. Reads just like I'm looking at a paperback. It has a light, but not a backlight, so eyestrain is so much lower than staring at a tablet.

I like it.

>>60785985
For free 3G

>>60786562
When would it be useful? Months without wifi?

>>60786579
Whenever you're not within range of Wi-Fi, some people actually leave their houses.

>>60786595
What do you do with it? You actually browse internet on it?
My sides.

>>60786614
Download books wherever you are and browse the web, I don't see what's so funny.

>>60786633
Because even a phone is better for browsing.
>Download books
I guess I just always have a backlog.

Anyway you could always use tethering.

Never needed to do that so it seems to me like a stupid gimmick retards pay for only because it costs more so it must be better. Though I guess YMMV

>>60786691
I'll take an ereader's larger screen over my nonexistent phone any day.

>>60786702
But it's so slow. Unless you read some old text only sites.

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Considering a Kindle Paperwhite for $120. I read a lot. That said, is there any driving reason to pay $200 for the Kindle Voyage? Or God forbid, the $289 Kindle Oasis?

All I want is a good backlight because I read in bed all the time, and good battery life. I do intend to buy my books from the Kindle store if that matters.

The Kindles don't take microSD cards correct? There is enough space for at least 10 books on these right? I average about a book every 2 days.

>>60786726
I remember browsing 4chan on the orginal e-ink kindle.

Fanfiction.net or whatever worked perfectly on there.

>>60786771
>I do intend to buy my books from the Kindle store if that matters.
Don't do it. If you have money to burn consider charity or something.
If you like an author send book's cost to his bank account, he sees only a very small % of those money you pay for a book.
Why the fuck do you want to fund some CEO's private island is beyond me.

I still use an original nook

It's comfy for books and PDFs

>>60786771
>There is enough space for at least 10 books on these right?
More like 1,000.

>>60786771
Typical size of an ebook on a kindle is about 2mb. Storage on a Paper White is 4gb. Yes, you can hold at least 10 books.

They all have a light, although the lighting on the Voyage or Oasis is more even due to them using more LEDs, but it probably doesn't make any difference to most people.

The Oasis has physical page buttons while the others require you to swipe the screen to turn the page. Depends on your preferences, I have a Nook and I tend to swipe anyway even with the buttons. They're nice but not $170 more nice.

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>>60786771
books take nearly 0 space anon, they're just text. you'll be able to store as much as you want

the only advantages of the voyage seem to be a light sensor (to automatically adjust the screen brightness) and actual page-turn buttons in addition to the touchscreen
is this worth $80 to you? probably not

that said you should buy the $140 paperwhite, not the $120 "includes special offers" one. unless you want an ereader infested with mandatory adware, or you're planning to root it to remove that shit

Any embarrassing e-reader stories?
>read a paper book after 2 years of kindle
>keep trying to swipe or tap it

Anyone have a Kobo Aura H20? Thoughts?

>>60786866
Yea $300 for an ebook display is steep. Thanks. I'll probably go with the $120 Paperwhite
>>60786825
>why the fuck do I want to fund some CEO
It's not like I buy from them solely to fund said CEO, I do it because it's convenient. What other book buying service is there that are as seamless as buying from the Kindle store? One that doesn't involve trying to download the book 3rd party, turn it into epub with Calibre, and hoping the Kindle accepts the transfer?
>>60786866
>>60786899
I figured there was plenty of space. Didn't hurt to make sure. And really? That's the "special offers"? Software garbage? You have a link to the non infested Paperwhite? All I can find is the $120 special offers one.

>>60786899
It's unobtrusive, I have it.
Literally only seen when you turn screen off (one static tasteful ad). And if you don't connect wifi they disappear after 2 months. Every few days I go to main menu and it's also there (1.5 bottom centimetres of the screen).
Not worth the money if you actually use it to read.

>>60786940
>hoping the Kindle accepts the transfer
You don't belong on /g/.

>>60786940
Personally I'd go with a Kobo Aura now probably

https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-aura

>>60786940
https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Paperwhite-High-Resolution-Display-Built/dp/B00QJDU3KY/

>>60786949
>tasteful ad
no such thing imo
just having them there in the first place leaves you with the gross feeling that somebody is trying to manipulate and make money off of you

>>60786940
>180 USD more is steep
>buy 10-20 USD books because can't waste 1 minute downloading and converting
Nice.

>>60786982
But after one month it's just generic 'find your next favourite book in kindle store' with a nice wallpaper behind the text.

>>60786940
>What other book buying service is there
he's not advocating third party stores anon, he's telling you to pirate

>>60786726
Works for me

>>60786984
Converting with Calibre isn't great. It fucks up justifications, chapters, etc usually.

I mean the price is free, and its amazing at what it does and I love it. But lets not pretend its perfect

would be nice if there was an acceptable size e-ink tablet focused on non-entertainment books

can't read scientific papers on this thing, they're crap for math books, basically anything with tables is out


those are too hard to make money on so they're not supported at all

>>60786982
Owning kindle doesn't leave you with the gross feeling that somebody is trying to manipulate and make money off of you? Aren't they locked to Amazon ebooks (unless you use calibre).

>>60786984
$10-$20 books? Most of the books I've bought were less than $7. Full series were usually $20. And where are you downloading these copies from so convert anyway? Is there another service that directly benefits the author that I'm unaware of? If so point me in the right direction. If you're recommend pure piracy, fuck all the way off.
>>60786982
Thanks for the link anon

>>60787022
I don't know about other models but I had my Kindle Keyboard 2 hacked and could drag and drop PDFs and ebooks onto it

>>60787012
Fucks nothing at all if you convert from epub.

I'm starting to get a suspicion some Amazon shill is spreading disinformation to make people waste money.

>>60787037
Yeah, and you can remove ads if you hack it. Was just hauling at >>60786982

>>60787043
I only ever converted Mobi to Epub (I've got an old nook) so calm your tits

>>60787034
Pirate all and find author's bank account for donations if you think they deserve your money.

>>60787012
converting from pdf is shit because pdf is a shit format for ebooks

everything else is fine

>>60786925
I have one, anything specific you want to know?

>>60787074
>Nah, I didn't really like these mashed potatoes. I'm not paying for my meal

This is what you sound like.

>>60787056
>hauling
Fucking dictionary on FF.

>>60787124
lol fucking moralfags

>>60787124
Then pay every single one of them if you get off to it, just pay directly, they only get ~5% of book price.
Also, nice false equivalence.

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>>60787018
I actually really want one of these

>>60787191
>that margin
Isn't it too big even for pdf?

>>60787173
The publisher gets money because they paid the writer in the first place, they converted it into various formats, etc. Even if we ignore print entirely.

I don't personally care if people pirate shit. But your justifications are pathetic

>>60787173
I'm sure the author is thankful for that 5% rather than 0% because you decided you didn't like their book.

And the Kindle store allows the ability to download the first 2-3 chapters for free as a demo of sorts.

>>60787265
>publisher paid the writer in the first place
lol

>>60777642
I enjoy the kindle. Just wish it was a bit bigger.

As far as convenience goes, it beats books by far.

>>60779950
"price gouging"
holy shit fuck off.

>>60778077
Fuck off back to your teenage script kiddie circlejerk and get back to work on KiLLaZR0m SiZZurP Edition

>>60777849
LOL, are you still financing your phone?

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>>60777642

I'm >Pic related.

Should I get the Kobo (and thus borrrow books from the libraries here) or the Kindle (which has more books period)?

>>60788736
pirate books, it has the same end result as borrowing from the library anyways

>>60777642
eink is great

however the actual available hardware is massively overpriced and in amazon's case locked the fuck down

I absolutely love ereaders and I would like to buy something better than my kindle paperwhite, but the market is 100% stagnant. There's been virtually no improvements for like 3-5 years now.

>>60777827
I've got two bookshelves full of books, and while I like having them, an ereader with all my books on it is way, way, way, more convenient. Also can't understate that battery life. It's actually pretty fucking great for going camping and hiking.

>>60786771
Kindle Oasis only has good ergonomics going for it.

Basically it's what all the ereaders should be like, but it's stupidly overpriced. It's a $70 piece of hardware masquerading as $400 hardware.

Also, amazon's stuff is locked down crap. Unless you're going to root, I'd go with kobo.

>>60777642
>Not just using his phone

>>60778547
i am about to purchase one, i'm interested in acquiring manga epubs and such online, anything i need to know? I'm thinking like, does it need custom firmware or something like that? or will it Just Work?

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>>60777642
I f you read on your phone or tablet at night, then reading for two hours on a paperwhite at night you'll know it was money well spent.

>>60778077
You work at Best Buy don't you.

>>60784115
The two full-page size readers are $800.

for the type of reading I do (textbooks mostly), which involves numerous references to other chapters and often requires going back or forward multiple pages, it's a nightmare because you have to go sequentially rather than random access/just flipping through. Physical textbooks are far superior when price isn't a concern.

I usually use my tablet for textbooks just because it's faster than the ereader

>>60779950
You make back the money by pirating your ebooks. This thing pays for itself.

I have a kindle keyboard 3g.

Pros
*Reading in any light source is great
*Can pirate books
*Seriously, eink is awesome in well lit areas
*My Kindle was free

Cons
*Just like a book, you'll need a light to read in poorly lit areas (which makes it nearly useless to me)
*Just like a book, you have to hold the device (I'll come back to this)
*It's really fucking slow and can't handle a large library (if you don't pirate, this probably won't affect you)
*anything other pure text ebooks are fucking trash. PDF support is abysmal and good luck reading any comics
*has all the cons of a book and you still have to charge the damn thing
*screen is pretty low resolution and limits the size of readable text
*Navigation is slow and clunky unless you are progressing one page at a time
*Takes a second to refresh the display (so changing pages is slow)

Some of my issues are related to my particular model, some of the issues are due to being an amazon device. If you want an e-reader (and I would still recommend it), go for a kobo glo unless you can get a paperwhite absolutely dirt cheap (though I read that you can't turn off the backlight on those which I imagine can be somewhat annoying).

I end up just using an 8" windows tablet and sumatra pdf to read books. I actually like the landscape dual column layout better anyway. My tablet case has a cover that folds into a stand and it significantly improves my enjoyment while reading. I like it especially because I can eat and read at the same time. The tablet is heavy and the battery is kinda shitty (especially compared to an ereader) and those are the only two cons I'd say. I find that not being able to read in direct sunlight is not nearly as big of an issue as amazon would like you to think. In fact, I've never run into a situation where a regular LCD worked poorly compared to an eink screen. I like the eink but having a backlight is much more important to me.

Plus, I can use it for porn

>>60787012
Yea and having the X-Ray function for some books is really useful.

>>60789008
Too small, plus e-ink is much nicer to read on.

I've got a kindle paperwhite and it's pretty decent. I've read about 200€ worth of books on it by now, all of which I pirated, so it kinda pays off in the long run. When I didn't have internet in my new place for six weeks, I just downloaded books at work and put them on my kindle with calibre and I had stuff to read the entire time to fill my evenings.

>>60783879
>$3
>Expensive

Yeah, $3 would be expensive for a bottle of water, n'am sayn'? Same logic applies

>>60777642
it is a meme.
The technology is way too slow and way too expensive.

The picture quality is better than any other screen type I have used.
I would pay a lot of money to get an a4 sized display, but all the people who have ever been involved with making these have been clueless idiots who wanted to push too much features into what should be a fairly simple device.

I do own one of the 6" kindle ones and they are great for stuff like novels, but they don't work well with a4 sized pdf papers and that would be way more useful than the xml files they do support.

The good models are a bit too expensive and unfortunately they can't really become much cheaper because as of right now there is 1(one) manufacturer making e-ink panels.

>>60787272
he's saying "pay the author directly" are you that fucking dense?

alright, so which 8-10" ebook reader do I get if I want to pirate stuff and have a decent PDF viewer?
some kobo, or rather onyx? any specific model?

>>60790526
>and have a decent PDF viewer?
None.
Get a tablet.

If it's just central text on a pdf, that's manageable. If it's graphics or other shit that would require a lot of panning around, don't bother.

>>60787272
>>60787173
>>60787124
>>60787074
>>60787034
There are other ebook vendors besides amazon. It's not as if amazon is the publisher; they get the files from the publisher (like everyone else) and then add on their bullshit drm to unnecessarily complicate things.

Do kindles still show you ads on the device?
lmao

>>60777642
Have a Kobo Glo HD and I'm very satisfied with it. Reading on a high res e-ink screen is so much more comfortable than reading on an lcd screen.
Only issue I have is incorrect epubs that only displau correctly on normal dpi screens, whereas they display images way too small on a high dpi screen. Which can be rather annoying when reading technical books.

>>60778077
>You do everything on them slow and for what?
For reading, assfuck.

i hcve physical copy but great for travel

Kobo Aura 2 vs Kindle Paperwhite? The price is the same. The Kobo is smaller and lighter, but it's 210ppi vs 300 for the Paperwhite

>>60777642
It's a meme.

Tablets exist. ereaders are sheer redundancy.

ereaders are very convenient. I picked up an old kindle without internal lights from a fleashop for 30 bucks and I used it throughout 3 years of university (theres a neat prog to resize big books like text books to fit the screen but i forgot its name) and now im using it to read on the beach. Would recommend.

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>>60788060
E-books should cost 1 dollar. There are almost no costs involved.

>>60789056
Even kindle will just werk (but you have to find mobi or convert epub to mobi)

>>60792032
That is retarded and bait.
But you should also get a digital copy if you buy a physical book. Also I agree that the e-book should have a reduced price, but 1 dollar is retarded.

>>60787265
>paid the writer in the first place
Few thousand dollars in most cases when they get tens or hundreds of thousands from buyers.
>they converted it into various formats
Please don't be retarded, my mum can do it.

>>60792053
That's what self-published authors go for. (And they do hire someone to proofread and format the e-book correctly. Everything else is just a stupid meme like advertising or paying for third villa of some fag.)
Though I could agree to 2 USD if you insist.

>>60787022
You can put mobi's on them via usb or email even if they aren't hacked. Lot of ebooks are in epub format but you can convert these to mobi with calibre.

>>60791878
Get bigger screen for manga.
Anyway e-readers aren't about screen size (which as you astutely divined is rather smallish in most cases) but about longer operation time and comfortable reading in direct sunlight or at night.

>>60792151
see
>>60787022
>(unless you use calibre)

>all these people saying e-books are more expensive than they should be
You do realize that when you buy physical books, you are literally paying for just paper, right?

>>60791878
>tfw the phone looks 10 times better

>>60792190
You do realize that when you buy ebooks, you're literally paying for just a bunch of 1s and 0s, right?

>>60792190
>>60792223
I was talking about e-book readers.

>>60792190
And high-tech engraving which is used to produce it.
>tfw we went from movable type back to ancient tech
Always feels funny to me.

>>60792190
You're paying for entertainment