/wt/ Watch Thread

can anyone identify the watch in this video:

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Starting to really consider getting the moon watch.

>beater Vostok stopped winding
>at least still clicked at first, now nothing
Is it fucked boyos? Paid $50 for the thing. Didn't even last a year. I dropped it a couple days beforehand but it seemed fine.

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Guys, i just found a guy selling vintage omegas in my area, There's a Seamaster and a Seamaster Deville that caught my eyes.
Gonna dump pics from the guy, can you faggots see if they're real or fake for me? thanks

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>>60774892

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>>60774904

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>>60774911

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>>60774916

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>>60774014
Honesty I hate the Grand Seiko font. Why would you use that fuck ugly gothic font for a Japanese watch? It's worse than Orient's beer logo.

Might as well used Comic Sans or pic and it wouldn't be that much worse.

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>>60774933

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>>60774951
Forgot to mention, The dials for both of them have already being service and clean.

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>>60774961

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>>60774968

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>>60774972

I just ordered my first watch ever... Orient Mako ii blue dial... did I goofed?

>>60775006
it's a good watch

>>60774892
>>60774961

How much are they selling for? Also i fucking love those watches...

>>60774509
quartz

>>60775156
About 520$ for each

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>>60774934
Why not use some based cursive instead of
SEIKO

GRAND SEIKO

>>60775201
That is a fucking buy m8

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What is a good watch that looks exactly like this?
Quartz is fine.

>>60775215
Or just use the standard Seiko font now that they only put Grand Seiko on the dial.

Does anyone have any inspo on a seagull 1963 on leather?

>>60775215
who gives a shit.. why would you ever buy a grand seiko? You would have to ignore Rolex, Omega, Tudor, IWC, JLC, PP, AP, Cartier, Universal, Breitling, Longines, Montblanc... etc

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>>60775218
The problem is i can't device between two of them, i always want a hand wound omega but the dial on the Deville doesn't sing to me as much as the Seamaster, trying to find information about the Cal.563 to see if it can be hand wound.

>>60775249
Grand Seikos are really good!

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Luuuuume

>>60775288
not for the money they aren't. The manual wind movement is pretty cool but the only good gs is the classic recreation and at that price you are talking patek money.. I personally like the patek calatrava more than the grand seiko.

>>60775249
Half the brands you listed are fucking jokes

>>60775273

God speed

>>60775416
you are a fucking joke

>>60775442
I'm not the one saying he'd pass up a grand seiko for an omega or a fucking breitling of all things.

>>60774014
daily reminder that you're all a bunch of autists screeching about "muh craftsmanship" as you wear this gaudy trash in public

>>60775622
>t.apple watch

>>60775619
Looks completely generic with that font.

>>60775709
You're right, I was going for that Christopher Ward look.

>>60775469
I did not specifically say that. I essentially was attempting to convey that one of those brands would have a better watch at any price than seiko. And I would absolutely buy an Omega over a gs.

>>60775410
Grand seiko movement quality and finishing is absolutely superb

>>60775729
D-did you just c-compare Grand S-Seiko with Ch. Ward??
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUEEUEUEEEEE!!!

>>60775783
Grand Seikos have Patek/JLC levels of finish, excellent movements and sell for less than a generic Omega branded Swatch.

>>60775901

no

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would you?

>>60775977
The dial guilloche is pretty neat. Everything else looks kinda meh to be honest.

>>60775977
no

>>60775977
That looks like a cheap copy of a good-looking watch. The ideas are all there, but the execution screams "I couldn't afford an actually good watch".

>>60775977
>Glitter sparkles PVA'd onto the dial
No.

>>60775977
The thing that confuses me the most about this chink shit is how they don't understand something so basic. If they didn't put their Chinese name on the dial and use a simple flat color dial the watch would be wroth twice as much.

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>old Vostok
>new gaskets
>pass at 5atm
>pass at 1atm
>fail at 0.5atm
Well I guess I found the flaw of the compressor case design.

>>60776206
just get rid of that m8 get yourself a nice snk013k or 007

>>60776206
when have you last dived in water that was at 0.5bar

>>60776190
It's China so I always assume there's a smelly uncle who has the right to have a say in the design because he lent your father some money fifteen years ago.

>>60776219
>you can only have one diver
Okay kid.

>>60776239
It means it will fail near surface, stupid.


Srsly nu/wt/ is killing us.

>>60776249
no you can have as many divers as you wont but a scratched leaky over sized vostok should probably not be one of them.

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>>60775916
Actually, Grand Seikos have better movement dial case and bracelet finishing than entry level Pateks.

Just look at that anglage compared to the anglage comparison pic that gets posted here.

>>60776258
Thanks for telling me, Mr. Expert.

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>>60776263
Just look at the finishing here. It's absurd on a "production" watch.

>>60776263

spring drive is not acceptable.. and yes they have good finishing but the overall package is still not as desirable as a Patek. Patek just has better design. You can try to convince everyone you want but the world as a whole does not agree with you and that is why the pricing is the way it is.

>>60776267
you are welcome faggot

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>>60776263

>>60776267
>wt in a nutshell

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>>60776318
Patek might give a shit for a minute repeater, but the same can't be said for their recent entry level watches.

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>>60776336

What watch is that photo even from they put most of the microrotor 240s under glass with magnifiers in it... they polish it pretty fucking well.

>>60776249
Did you know that the pressure you experience at the surface is 1 bar? Not 0.5? Now you do.

>>60776364

If he tested it in a pressure chamber it didn't pull a vacuum.. it means the watch would fail at sea level.

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>>60776299
>Spring drive
No one was discussing movement types. You tried to assert that Grand Seiko's finishing was not at least on par with entry level Pateks. A comparison of >>60776263 to >>60776336 and pic related show that you are objectively wrong.

I am also entirely uninterested in your subjective opinions about Patek, Grand Seiko, or literally anything else.

>>60776364
Did you know in pressure testers you measure pressure difference, not absolute pressure?

>compressor pumps air into chamber
>pressure somehow now half of what you started with
Proof that God exists.

Now fuck off stupid. Swap a NATO or something, kiddo.

>>60776405
>>60776383
Then it's not 0.5 bar, but 1.5. It's not that hard, come on.

>>60774014
eternal reminder
>>>/fa/

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>>60775622
You called?

>>60776414
right so it would fail below that hence it would fail at sea level. The original poster who actually tested the watch was correct

>>60776414
>I have autism
What did I just say? It measures pressure difference, dumbfuck!
>Hey guys, did you hear? Some dipshit sperg on the internet said the entire pressure gauge industry was doing everything wrong in the past century! Quick, retool all the production lines!

>>60774509
Don't. It's an oversized bastardized re-issue of the original.

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>>60774934
Because that's what was used on the first Grand Seiko in the 1960s, and for the sake of tradition they should never change it.

>>60776391

>not for the money they aren't. The manual wind movement is pretty cool but the only good gs is the classic recreation and at that price you are talking patek money.. I personally like the patek calatrava more than the grand seiko


>You tried to assert that Grand Seiko's finishing was not at least on par with entry level Pateks

really did i? where was this?
are you talking about the no when you said

>Grand Seikos have Patek/JLC levels of finish, excellent movements and sell for less than a generic Omega branded Swatch.

someone saying no to that is not the same is arguing about patek vs seiko finishing. Everything you said in that statement besides the thing about finishing was nonsense. Its also not just my opinion its the general consensus of everyone on earth which is how the market has decided which brand is more valuable.

>>60774961
I would go for this one, and $520 is a very good price for that model in that condition.

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>>60776360
Beats me as to which watch that specific 240 was put in. Here's another I managed to find. Turns out real close macro shots that really show off the anglage up close are harder to find than you'd think. You can see some striping going on in the white reflection of the bevel (where the one balance wheel beam is).

>>60776391
>>60776506

Welcome to /wt where someone is actually trying to argue about Seiko being better than Patel Philippe. I honestly can't tell if you are shitposting or a retarded Japanese man.

>>60776537
pretty embarrassing desu

>>60776542
a bit rude m8

>>60776506
>>Grand Seikos have Patek/JLC levels of finish, excellent movements and sell for less than a generic Omega branded Swatch.
>someone saying no to that is not the same is arguing about patek vs seiko finishing.

Oh, so you said no but weren't disagreeing with Grand Seiko having comparable finishing to entry level Pateks, and weren't disagreeing Grand Seiko's having excellent movements, and weren't disagreeing with Grand Seiko's being available for prices comparable to Omega models?

Yes. That makes sense.

>>60776570
No i don't like their movements and you said omega branded swatch which is a bit much. You are simply going too far.

>>60776506
>higher prices mean better watches
LMAO
M
A
O

A majority of what you are paying for is the (((brand name))). This is especially true with Patek, but also with a lot of Swiss watches. Prices are the way they are because of those fucks who want a watch because 'muh history' and 'muh brand recognition' instead of the finishing or technical strength of the watch. History is cool and all, but it is completely wrong to assert that higher market value means a better physical product. Sure it might have higher social value, but that depends on what circles you are in.

>>60774509
Did the moonwalkers wear a citizen or a Bulova?

which is it?

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>>60776594
No its because I along with most other people would rather wear this

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>>60776594
over this

>>60776594
Those two vintage Omega's that kicked off the thread are nicer than pretty much any current grand seiko you can actually even buy

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>>60776594
Not to mention i don't want to spend 10k on a fucking mechanical watch for it to have this inside

>>60776586
It wasn't even me who made that post, I only chimed in because you started flapping your lips without knowing the avalanche of QC complaints about entry level Patek models in the last couple of years (ESPECIALLY their steel models) while Grand Seiko finishes their mechanical and spring drive models to entry level haute horlogerie standards.

Grand Seiko also objectively makes some of the best time/date only movements in the world. They literally invested in a hilariously expensive MEMS machine to manufacture their hollow balance wheels to micrometer precision, and hand inspect, polish, assemble, adjust and regulate every component of every movement.

These facts remain true regardless of whether you subjectively like them, or whether anyone else does either.

>>60776683
>mechanical

>>60776594
That's not entirely true either. It depends on which brands you are talking about.

There simply isn't any real way to make watches to haute horlogerie standards at the relatively small volumes they are made without using enormous amounts of hand labour which is extremely expensive.

Your claims tend to be much more true of the production Swiss makers like the brands owned by the Swatch group which are slapping fairly generic mass produced movements into inexpensively made cases and using marketing to huckster normies (e.g. Panerai, IWC).

>>60776702

where are my lips flipping?

Is there anything to keep in mind if I want to import a vostok into the EU?

>>60776644
>>60776652

You realize you aren't disagreeing with him yes? His entire contention is that people are willing to pay more for Patek's because of brand image and marketing rather than any objective technical or finishing superiority.

Saying you subjectively prefer the Patek doesn't disagree with his assertion at all. I happen to disagree with him though since their pricing relative to the objective technical and finishing quality of their entry level watches wasn't that bad until the last couple of years when they rapidly doubled production.

Prior to this, entry level Pateks were finished to similar standards to entry level ALS models, which is what you SHOULD be getting at that pricepoint.

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Are there any microbrands that make square / rectangular watches?

I only know of ALF, but they do not really suit my taste.

>>60776826
brew

>>60776644
>>60776652
Okay anon, but why do you want to buy it?
Also, nice render.

>>60776662
Yeah, those are pretty nice. Comparing vintage and modern watches is pretty silly though. I don't know enough about vintage Seikos, but the Lord Marvel 36000s or vintage GS/KS are comparable. Tell me when Swatch Omega makes something decent.

>>60776683
I guess if by 'mechanical' you mean 'doesn't have a battery.' If you don't want Spring Drive, don't buy it.
>disliking technological innovation

>>60776754
Definitely. I was talking about the bulk of Swiss watches. Even out of those made by hand, it comes back to the finishing comparison. (Grand) Seiko does better for less in that regard. Going back to comparison pic (>>60776336), some of those are clearly more worth it than others. Even in the wider-view pictures of Patek movements(>>60776552, >>60776537) you can make out the shoddy beveling.

Do they make grand seiko dive watches

their dress watches look generic and pretentious to me

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>>60776871
Yes. 2big4me though.

Seiko put the tapisserie dial on a normal sized watch pls.

>>60776818

My assertion is that the polish on a movement is not the only important thing about the watch and that the total package provided by Patek is worth more money. It is not just marketing. The object as a whole is more desirable because of its design and aesthetics. Just because you arbitrarily say the seiko movement is not objectively worse than the patek one then the watch is not objectively worse is pretty ridiculous. A Toyota Camry engine works really well and the car drives really well from point a to point be and is really fuel efficient. Saying the aesthetics of a Ferrari are better than the aesthetics of a Camry is subjective and it doesn't make the Ferrari the nicer or more desirable car. see how that doesn't really hold up. There are differences between the brands.

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>>60776634
>Did the moonwalkers wear a citizen or a Bulova?
>which is it?

Neil Armstrong wore a Citizen

>>60776903
oh god

>>60776903
That looks pretty good, don't like the little squares on the dial but it looks good overall

>>60776391
https://youtu.be/1wBD0XXrroY?t=1m51s

>>60776904
>ement is not objectively worse than the patek one then the watch is not objectively worse is pretty ridiculous. A Toyota Camry engine works really well and the car drives really well from point a to point be and is really fuel efficient. Saying the aesthetics of a Ferrari are better than the aesthetics of a Camry is subjective and it doesn't make the Ferrari the nicer or more desirable car. see how that doesn't really hold up. There are differences between the brands.

I am literally retarded, I require special education

the post

>>60776903
That is disgusting

>>60776967
why

>>60776974
I just don't like the way it looks what do you mean why?

>>60776974
I also don't enjoy the aesthetics of this watch.

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have some vomitus maximus

>>60776987
>>60776992
except for the weird dial color and pattern it looks just like every other diver ever made

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Having just talked all that shit about seiko i will say i really do like the 9s movements.

>>60777032
I don't like divers period lol

>>60777061
do you post how much you hate it every time someone posts a diver?

must be time consuming

>>60776904
I wasn't the one arguing it was just marketing. I agree that prior to the last couple of years (when production at PP doubled and a LOT of complaints started about the finishing on their entry level models) entry level Patek's cased in precious metals were worth more than Grand Seikos on the basis of materials cost, hand labour, and finishing.

I still would disagree that an Aquanaut or Nautilitus are worth more than a Grand Seiko for any intrinsic reasons, mind you.

Trying to compare Grand Seiko to a Toyota Camry just reveals your own biases. A more realistic example would be between a Ferrari and a Porsche. Yes the Ferrari is more expensive, yes, you may prefer it aesthetically, yes you may prefer the brand, but Porsche still makes objectively great sports cars.

Look, personally I prefer ALS, VC and JLC to PP but I wouldn't turn around and argue that this is a valid criticism of PP. On the other hand, abandoning the Geneva Seal and increasing production volume so fast that your QC goes to shit IS a valid criticism.

>>60776967
Have to agree with you. Pretty much all the GS divers are frankly ghastly.

?>>60777061
Even vintage ones, before they got all Fifty Fathoms/Sub influenced and spiraled out out of control?

>>60777032

>except for the entire face of the watch and the fact that its standard "diver" shape why don't you like it?

well gee wiz i have no idea...

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>>60777044
They might be the best smooth balance time/date only movements made today at any price. GS uses an absurdly expensive MEMS machine to make the hollow balance wheels by vapour deposition to micrometer tolerances, giving the balance wheels far better inherent balance characteristics than any cast or machined balance wheel. I believe that this is the key to the amazing inherent accuracy these movements achieve despite using a regulated balance design rather than a free sprung one.

>>60777127
Oh no I like vintage "sub's" also omega 36mm seamasters are not bad not into the 15mm thick 42mm look I'm a man sub's

>>60777173
It is beautiful in its own way

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Today a Tossit came in for a battery change. It's build quality was so low I thought it was fake until I opened it up. Last week I opened up a nu-Doxa. Its insides stank like how only chink-made watches do.

Every quartz Seiko and Citizen that comes in from every price range and era is literally without fault. They know how to make cheap solutions like press fit casebacks, folded bracelets and glued mineral crystals well.

>>60777173
>absurdly expensive meme machine

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>>60777372
Also Junghans is fucking amazing.

>>60777436
how you gonna hate on that my man?

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Are any of these bands acceptable and if so which one do you like. If not any suggestions of what band I should go for would be greatly appreciated.

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>>60776644
>itty bitty old movement slotted into a big case
literally what all shitter brands do lmao
proof that patek has nothing left to contribute and is just coasting on past laurels

>>60777541
This is purely subjective, but I think I like the green perlon best.

>>60777545
Honestly that shit is totally unacceptable on a haute horlogerie watch.

>>60777636
It honestly is embarrassing and that watch is so beautiful it really deserves better.

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>>60777698

>>60777698
>your nicest watch and second nicest watch are breitlings
dude

>>60777728
Is it actually yours?

If so then jelly, it looks like the same rootbeer GMT that Clint Eastwood has.

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Collection of watches you would like to have.

>>60778410
you don't want any good watches?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/975712226/meccaniche-veneziane-nereide-automatic-italian-div

>the design of tudor black bay
>the logo of Patek Philippe

>>60778536
Classiest watch of all time to the right of that Ian Fleming's watch, underneath it a classic omega seamaster under that is an actual moon watch with a tachymetre that timed the Apollo 13 reentry correction burn the right of that is jfk's dress watch and to the right of that is an early and timeless microrotor watch. But i guess you have superior taste and know better.

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>>60778576
>Seamaster
>Actual moonwatch
>Has a tachymeter????
The seamster is a beautiful watch but you seem a little confused.

>>60778648
>underneath it a classic omega seamaster UNDER THAT is an actual moon watch

maybe look at the photo next time?

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>>60778648
>seamaster
It literally says Speedmaster, friend.

>>60778648
also nice watch

>>60778657
>>60778665
Derp my bad

>>60778674

who gives a fuck post some watches you would like to have

>>60778576
>actual moon watch with a tachymetre that timed the Apollo 13 reentry correction burn
A tachymeter doesn't time anything

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>>60778410
All I want is this.
Is it too much to ask for?

>>60778410
Ones I want and will probably get down the road:
Pre-rebrand snowfrake
Milgauss
Chronometre Bleu

One that I will never be able to justify
Datagraph

>>60778753
Did you never take a math or science class or are you just retarded?
"The typical tachymeter scale on a watch converts between the number of seconds it takes for an event to happen and the number of times that event will occur in one hour"

T=3600/t seconds per hour/ seconds... how do you not know that also v=d/t speed is distance over time ..

the burn duration was determined (the burn was timed) using the chronograph function and tachymetre bezel.

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Business and pleasure

>>60778843
>Datagraph
that is just too expensive.

>>60778932
Ugly and horrid.

>>60778932
omega is nice... that other thing should have been thrown away already. When you buy a beater/disposable watch you are supposed to actually dispose of it at one point.

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>>60778410
Grand Seiko SBGH001
1970's Omega Seamaster with a 56x or 75x movement
Rolex 16200 Datejust with a blue dial
Vintage Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch with the Lemania 5100 (aka "the Holy Grail" Speedmaster)

>>60778896
They didn't need to know how many burns per hour they were doing, just for how long.

>>60779113
my word.... whatever you say buddy you are right

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>>60775619
>looks like chinkshit garbage with that new logo

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Alright, this is getting pretty close to done.

I tried polishing the crystal with diamond paste, but barely made any progress so far. Also too bad about the yellow discoloration on the dial, but at least in outdoor sunlight it's invisible. Hopefully I'll find an identical dial someday, but unlikely.

>>60779113
>They didn't need to know how many burns per hour they were doing,

Yes they did. They needed to do specifically one. Multiple burns would add all kinds of corrective problems with additional burns needed to compensate which they could not do given fuel reserves.

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Has this watch become too meme tier to wear regularly? Still really want one...

>>60779193
why?

>>60779193
No one outside watch forums know it even exists.

Stop pretending the world cares.

>>60779139
Yes, and what did they need the watch for? To time the burns. A tachymeter tells you how many times an event occurs per hour when you time one cycle. What use is that in this case?

>>60779267
>No one outside watch forums know it even exists.
False. I literally have a colleague who eagerly showed me his new watch (the 1963), and he has no clue about watches, and I have no idea how he got a hold of a 1963.

>>60779193
If it has ever been posted in /wt/, it is way to meme-tier to wear.

Just make sure the hands are the right size and you're golden.

>>60779302
you are retarded

>>60779330
Look, I know you're upset you made a mistake but you're only making yourself look worse here.

>>60779193
I wear it to work. It's a beautiful watch and can pull off more than you think

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In case anyone was wondering, the EULIT Palma is the GOAT perlon.

>>60778542
Wow, another chinese kickstarter shitter.
Look at all that bullshit marketing.
>"only a diamond can scratch!"
>"miyota's most decorated calibre"
(it's a fucking 8215 with some shitty engraving lol)

>70.5k/15k pledged
Must be nice to make bank off fucking retards.
Legit jelly that they make it seem so easy.

>>60779470
literally the only commented I posted in the visible part of the page

>>60779545
That's the fucking one i am looking for but i can only find the west German ones that are 75 dollars each... may just have to buy one. the green one and red one are too sexy

>>60779113
Its not burns per hour you fucking idiot

"It can be used to compute a speed based on travel time or measure distance based on speed"

holy fuck you may actually be retarded

>>60779545
Looks like shit on that watch, though.

Are Oris watches /g/ approved?

>>60779554
You forgot
>the renaissance of italian watchmaking

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>>60776903
Looks like royal oak pity fucked the deepsea seed-weller in a one night stand in tokyo (because fat chicks get horny too).

>>60779585
You in North America or Europe?

>>60779667
(You)

>>60779668
yes

>>60779640
It only works for a static velocity, if you use it while accelerating you get an average. The time and vector of the burn were the only important aspects. Please show me a source literally anywhere describing the importance of the tachymeter on Apollo 13 and I'll happily shut up.

>>60779506
Where did you get yours? I see the remakes on ebay like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/p/seagull-1963-hand-winding-mechanical-chronograph-38mm-sa-crystal/1334401372?iid=122009067021

is that what you got?

>>60779719
(You)

>>60779823
Watchunique sells for really cheap

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>>60779640

They used the fucking hand as a timer for seconds, like a stop watch. That is all they did.

you literally don't know what a tachymeter is or does.

they would have been just as well off with a standard stopwatch, no tachymeter was used or needed

>>60779823
http://www.watchunique.com/seagull-1963.html

>>60779667
I agree. Gold rolex on a perlon. wtf?

Wear some kind of black or brown leather or aligator ffs.

>>60779911
who is the retard that fill his trunk with garbage? how do they carry stuff like groceries and shit

>>60779911
That's what I've been saying the whole time, at first I just thought he meant chronograph but said tachymeter but clearly that's not the case.

>>60780119
Frunk.

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>>60780092
It's two tone, actually, and I also have an alligator strap for it, but I really like brown too.

>>60780241
*Brown perlon too, I meant.

>>60780241
Holy shit that looks awful as well.
I'm not sure if that tone works with anything.

>>60779899
>>60780047

Hey thanks! Exactly what I was looking for.

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>>60780260
(You)

>>60780284
Man I hate to break it to you but it does look bad

>>60778542
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/975712226/meccaniche-veneziane-nereide-automatic-italian-div
If you want a Tudor BB then fucking save up for one instead of backing these chink kickstarter brands.

>>60780241
that is one ugly watch m8

>>60780284
>gold rolex on nylon band

Gold rolexes are douchebag enough, but you just went full retard

>>60780284
I'm sorry that you don't want to hear the truth.

>>60780284
That's a nice vintage watch. Ignore the other idiot who hates (gold) rolexes no matter what but bro those straps suck.

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>>60780284
>>60780241
>>60779719
>>60779545

>>60779138
can't you replace the crystal?

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>>60780260
>>60780329
>>60780345
>>60780362
>>60780453
>>60780485
>>60780564
>45P before all these posts
>Still 45P after all these posts

>>60780724
Huh?

>>60780284
Ugly as shit

>>60780611
Not really, at least not a genuine Citizen one. It's really tall, so I don't think generic mineral crystals will fit, I don't know if it has any Sternkreuz equivalent crystal or anything.

I could use a polishing motor with diamond paste instead of the dremel tool, but if I crack the crystal with the heat I'm fucked.

>>60780976
fair enough and too bad. it's still readable at least.
What's the pusher for?

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>only $72
>you'll never own one

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>>60776542
Yes, good goi defend you overpriced swissshit.

>>60781055
Why won't i?

>>60781044
Zeroing the seconds hand, like a flyback chronograph, and the minute hand between around 57 and 03.

I don't think there's any other three hand watch that does this, but mechanically it's not so complicated. Well apart from the cannon pinion maybe.

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I've owned this watch for 15 years, it hasn't gotten an overhaul or anything besides a new band. It continues to keep perfect time and has never failed me. How much do you think I can get for it? If its too little I might as well keep it...

>>60781203
Oh, that's interesting.
I remember reading about a Lange tourbillon that resets to 0 when hacked, but it wasn't a separate pusher.

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will this make me look like a retard

>>60779711

nyc

>>60781316
Holben's Fine Watchbands carries most of the EULIT perlon line up and they are located in the US.

>>60779138
looks worn out to all fuck and back

would not wear in public

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>>60781340
i just bought the blue one they no longer make the green or the old red.

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>>60781365

>>60781365
>>60781409
Yeah, those two aren't made anymore as far as I know. Sorry for the mix-up, as I thought you were looking for current production Palamas.

Where can I go to get a high quality leather strap with the minimal stitch

Guys, I was given an Orient Quartz Watch as a gift from my father some years back. I recently found it and am curious of how much is it worth, since I'm not on a good economic position and may have to sell my stuff. I can't seem to find the serial online, and I don't know much about watches neither. I don't think it is worth much, because my father gave it to me, but whatever

On the back of the watch, It says KE C7705F-50 CS. Thanks in advance

What the hell is up with all of the shills in /wt/ today?

>>60781464
it's worth nothing anon

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>>60781297
Citizen seems to have experimented with a lot of unique complications that time. This watch movement also has an unique way to set day and date. See pic, the part marked with "don't oil" changes position with gravity, so when you hold the watch up and press the crown in it changes the date, but when you turn the watch upside down (12 o'clock down) it changes the date.

Among other things Citizen also had a mechanical movement around this time where the regulator arm on the balance was connected to the keyless work so you could regulate it with the winding crown without having to open it.

>>60781364
It's not that bad irl. If I could shave down the scratches somehow it would look way better.

etrytryetreytreyerty

>>60781465
50 autistic poor people post on this board and you fucking think someone is shilling here?

>>60779668
Oris is one of the last independent mid-tier watch makers, if not the last.
That's good.
Oris has been coasting happily along buying generic swatch movements with no modification and has proceeded now with ETA clones.
That's boring.
Where are their watches really made? Probably china.
That's bad.
They have some original designs that are distinctive enough and aren't just Patek or JLC wannabes like Frederique Constant or Maurice LeCuck, brands usually found in the same part of the mall as the Oris booth.
That's good enough.
They've been experimenting with in-house movements, and even though the watch it comes in is a shitter that missed the boat to china, at least they're trying.
That's good, but too little too late.

If you can get an oris for cheap, that's good. If you're a retarded paying full retail, that's bad and you should feel bad.
Avoid older BC3's.

>>>/fa/ggots

>>60781631
this

>>60781626
>mid-tier "swiss" watch makers
ftfm

>>60781626
Recommend me a nice but sporty watch for a 35 year old.

>>60781465
It is Always like this
>>60781490
I thought so, thanks you. If it had any value Google searching for is would led me some results.

>>60781631

go fuck yourself .yesterday there was a movement heavy thread which belongs in g most of the watches we discuss are mechanical or electromechanical and the discussions we have about those watches are usually movement based. sure there is some strap or aesthetic talk but it all goes hand in hand. This thread belongs on g and not on that faggot fashion board. Those fucking idiots couldn't figure out how a fucking watch worked if you literally fucking drew it for them.

>>60781535
You said it changes the date twice

>>60781716
sry, it changes day when held upside down.

>>60781631
>>60776415
>>/kys/

>>60781626
>>60781666

My devil trips mean you have to reply, ok?

>>60781535
>when you hold the watch up and press the crown in it changes the date, but when you turn the watch upside down (12 o'clock down) it changes the date.
what the fuck
>the regulator arm on the balance was connected to the keyless work so you could regulate it with the winding crown without having to open it.
what the fucking fuck

that's some outside the box thinking alright. modern citizen has fallen a long way down.

>>60781314
I like it. I like the applied numerals.

>>60781666
oris divers 65

>>60781666
What is your budget?
Do you have any hangups on general design or brand?
In what environment would you be wearing said watch?
What is your complexion?
How big is your wrist?

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>>60781666
ROLEX EXPLORER 1 36MM

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>>60781666

>>60782032
>What is your budget?
Couple thousand.

>Do you have any hangups on general design or brand?
I'm a recovering in-house snob, so I'm starting to warm up to ETAs and Sellitsas; but I'd rather avoid outright insults to horology.
I also want to avoid obvious brands like Seiko or Rolex.

>In what environment would you be wearing said watch?
Upper middle class to lower upper class.

>What is your complexion?
I'm dark-haired, but have pale skin.

>How big is your wrist?
7", but pretty flat.
I easily got away with some 45mm watches I tried at stores.

>What is your vocal range?
God-like baritone.

>Describe your aesthetics
6'3", built and sculpted ottermode.

>>60782253

ottermode 6'3 7 inch wrists .... something is not right here.. i am 5'8" i look like a fucking twink and my wrists are just over 7 inches.

>>60782253
couple thousand? what the fuck does that mean

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>>60782302
I have a gracile build and low body fat. Like pic related.

>>60782374

just get this>>60782122

>>60776783
?

>>60782253
Just get a Black Bay then.

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>>60782302
Also, 7" is actually pretty sizeable.
Pic is my flat 7" wrist with a 45mm transocean.

>>60782437
I'd like something a little more sporty, so a little bigger and with a bezel or something.

>>60782461
My grail atm is the pelagos LHD actually.

>>60782502
>My grail atm is the pelagos LHD actually.
Then the answer seems obvious. Save up a couple of thousand more and get your grail.
You are well within reach.

>>60782502
>pelagos LHD
get that then.. M8 you have some flat wrists.

>>60782519
>>60782531
That was the original plan.
Just now buying a house though, so 4k is going to be difficult.

Meanwhile I definitely feel like I out-aged my green alpinist, so I'm getting impatient.

>>60782587
My advice is still save up and buy the piece you really want.
Good luck in future endeavors.

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>>60782587

fucking get rid of the shit right away take the money you get from that get something mid range it will cost you maybe a few hundred on top of what you get for the seiko and you can keep what you have and keep saving for the tudor. I am going to get tons of shit for posting this but have you ever considered an ocean one or two?

>>60782626
Thanks, man.

I actually really like that transocean too, just sucks that you can't change the bracelet.

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>>60782670

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I likes muh luminox

>>60782689
Did you buy it as a treat to yourself?

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>>60781913
Yeah, it was the Citizen Adorex 8000

http://vid282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/Sweephand/Adorex/AdorexRegulator_zpse51f7a56.mp4

>>60782670
>>60782681
They're mighty tempting for the price.

Just not sure if they fit my image of "debonair bouncer who can channel Sinatra".

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>>60782670
>Recommending a Steinshit over an Alpinist

>>60782848
>thinking the 6r15 is as good as the 2824-2
>thinking an ugly green dial is as nice
>being this delusional

found the other alpinist owner

>>60782689
Q U A R T Z

>>60782670
>Steinhart
Looks like a generic sub homage, with a stock 2824 in a chinese case, that would cost 200$.

And a chinese cased 2824 sub homage it is.
But it doesn't cost 200$.
It costs 500$. Why??

>>60782689
>watch says luminox
>akchually is tritium
:^)

Watches are not technology.
Belongs on /fa/

>>60782912
You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. It is not a standard grade 2824-2 which even to a manufacturer costs more than 100 dollars. Those watches easily cost over 250 dollars in parts alone not to mention labour assembly and company overhead. That organization is operating on relatively slim margins. I just put a watch together with a 100 dollar case a top grade 2824 an inexpensive dial and hands and it still cost me over 400 dollars just in parts. the seiko is a Chinese cased Japanese movement I as a consumer can buy for 100 dollars selling for over 400 dollars.

>>60782944
>Watches are not technology

found the retard

>>60783014
Cars, trains guns are 'technology', they have their own boards.
Watches are fashion accessories.

>>60783034
pls leave

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>>60783002
>2824-2 elabore
>Not standard grade
It's literally the second lowest version.

>250 in parts
Yes, that's why the other Chinese dogshit homages made using the same parts retail for less than $250.

At least the Alpinist is an original design with a long history made by an actual watchmaking company rather than a front for off label fakes with zero QC. Also fucking kill yourself. I hate you, I hate your shitty field watch, I hate every post you make in these threads.

>>60783132

Maybe if they use sellita or seagull movements but not eta movements. They custom machine their movements that is not cheap to do. You can't get that movement made as a corporation for less than 100 usd.. it is not possible. that watch cannot be made for 200 dollars..period. The alpinist is overpriced piece of shit. The 400 dollar steinharts are objectively better watches and are typically better looking as well. Kill your fucking self because no one wants to hear your fucking beater seiko ever again. Long history of what? making cheap watches?

>>60782891
Why isn't a 6R15 as good

>>60783132
He didn't say elabore you dunce he said top grade

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>>60783210
>Admits to not even knowing about the history of the Alpinist model, or Seiko field watches in general
>Still opens his mouth on /wt/ and vomits forth his totally ignorant opinions
Kill yourself you inveterate pleb.

>>60783257
The Steinshit Ocean One uses the 2824-2 elabore. I checked.

>>60783225
It is good Its just not as good as a 2824-2. Its also much cheaper to produce.

>>60783260
what history? What some people bought them and wore them on mountains? https://seikoandcitizen.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-alpinist-summit-of-seiko-branding.html
that history? wow.....Guess that means something to me.. better go buy that instead of the better watch.

You have no argument at all for anything you have said. The 2824 is better the steinhart doesn't cost 200 dollars to make and the seiko is actually more overpriced at 400 dollars. You started this entire argument .. and you are a dick..

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Should I?

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Manual wind or automatic?

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where can I get a good Rolex fake? willing to spend $500

>>60783752

Everyone here buys replicas but we are not allowed to post sources, try getting on the watchuseek forums

>>60783458
>Alpinist line started in 1961 and continued ever since
>Truly original series of designs with a cult following in and outside of Japan
>Being compared to some Chinkshit cases ETA that's an oversized literal 1:1 copy of another watch with such bad QC a sizeable portion fail pressure testing upon receipt by customers
You are everything that's wrong with nu/wt/.

>>60783959
I can go on /b/ at any time and download cp, but here we cant post sources of fake watches?

>>60783752
i've got a friend whose dad bought a few in china.
if that helps.

>>60783752
ask csg

>>60784020
>I can go on /b/ at any time and download cp, but here we cant post sources of fake watches?
correct

>>60784153
Reported. This thread truly is dead.

I'm buying my first automatic watch and I think I've decided on a Seiko SNZG15J1. It really seems to fit what I want. I wish the 24hr time was more pronounced however.

What is a good leather band to go with this piece? I would prefer a simple dark brown.

>>60784550
Something like a Hadley Roma then?

You don't need anything super fancy for a $100 watch. Anything works at that point.

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thoughts on this?

>>60781227

$50

>>60785096
like it

>>60785209
That's a reviewers pic on amazon... thing is only 60 bucks prime.

>there are 300$ watches on meranom

Are they like regular Vostoks except they work

>>60785266
kek

>>60785266
go back to your rolex replica nigger

>>60782122
>posting the t-rex

anon pls

>>60785235
link?

>>60785402
That's not the 39mm explorer m8.

>>60784550
Go Vietnamese crocodile.

>>60777728
This is my grail. Holy fuck.

>>60785471
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002SSUQF6#

>>60785402

36mm

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>>60783752
go fuck yourself nigger

>>60786235
I like your attitude and that watch is nice as fuck and i want it but i don't understand why they put rolex over and over again on the inside of the fucking bezel

>>60786235
Nice chipped lug

>>60786250
>i don't understand why they put rolex over and over again on the inside of the fucking bezel

One of their anti-counterfeit measures.

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>>60786257
thanks I got a sick deal on it.

>>60786262
but its not aesthetic

>>60786250
Calling it now, within the next 5 years they'll be gouging it into the side of the fucking case invicta style

>>60786268
>>60786268

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>>60786250
the other guy who answered you is correct. I kind of like it vs the plain looking old rehaut

>>60786269
Agreed, but not much you can do about it now.

>>60786320
short of buying an old sub

>>60774892
My dad just gave me his old Seamaster Automatic, it's quite great.