Apple HomePod

>>60769199
Guess what, both of those were already dead, so will be the Apple one.

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And it's cute!

more like homopod

They should ban every Apple shill, they constantly fill up the site with trash threads.

>>60769304
Looks like a wheel from a go kart in Mario.

These things are pointless though. No one is paying 100 bucks each year for the latest model of a device that does less than what your cellphone already acomplishes.

>>60769329
>t. butthurt Lagdroid fan

open source talky bot bot when

>>60769273
>so will be the Apple one.
Its success will be signaled by Samsung launching its lame, blatant knockoff.

>>60769354
freetards are ""too intelligent"" to into NLP.

>>60769199
But dat price point. It's twice the price of the Echo. No matter how much better it is, would you go with the Home Pod, when you could get 2 or 3 of the competition for the same price?

>botnet, privacy, Bezos seeing all your panty purchases
But you're /g/. You're superelite hax0rs who can circumvent these things.

>>60769199
I thought Apple was supposed to be good with design. It literally looks like someone took a square microphone and blew it up to the size of a speaker.

At least Alexa and Home don't look like absolute shit. I'd be embarrassed to have that thing in my living room.

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>>60769199
black or white /g/? I'm gonna pick one up for my house... not sure which color....

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>>60769452
Black for sure.

>>60769437
Their aim is probably make it nondescript, notice it doesn't even have an Apple logo emblazoned on it.

>>60769452
Why not both? don't you want to take advantage of its stereo linking?

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>>60769199
>and guess what, HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.

>>60769199
Apple is the absolute last company I would buy one of these from. Whatever Google is calling their voice search this week has consistently kicked the shit out of Siri for years, especially when it comes to dictation, and I dare anybody with iOS or macOS to claim otherwise.

>>60769199
>and guess what, HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.
I've got some bad news for you...

https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/82765/osx-yosemite-and-security-privacy

also, macOS has confirmed telemetry in the kernel under the name com.apple.telemetry.

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>>60769502
I know, shit looks ugly as fuck.

>>60769579
apple shills will never respond to this because they will never admit that their OS is just as bad as windows.

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Google Home or Amazon Echo?

>>60769452
Why stop at one? Get one for every room.

t. $71k in apple stock

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>>60769618
Indeed. If you're not using ChromeOS, you might as well not even post on /g/.

>>60769452
Neither, save money for a gun and then off yourself.

>>60769199
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>>60769745
Can you guys please take these gay threads go /fa/ or /lgbt/?

We seriously don't like you all or your gay fashion accessories.

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>>60769802
Sorry dude

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>>60769802
>gay
This isn't an Android thread you fucking retard.

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>>60769802
Are you upset, snowflake?

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>349 for that hideous squat design
Do people actually want this?

>>60769429
>No matter how much better it is, would you go with the Home Pod, when you could get 2 or 3 of the competition for the same price?

Maybe. If the sound quality is good enough I'll start to consider it in the context of no-spying tax. Depending on how good the siri integration is I'll probably bite. Needs to be able to fuck with more music options than just apple music though, I want siri to be able to into spotify

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>>60770119
>Linux fags are autistic
>Apple fags are pure faggotry.
>Windows is just the average.

>>60770119
you can post fake news 100x and it won't make it true.

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>paying for physical botnet

>>60770234
more like windows is irrelevant

>>60770184
You can easily just buy some better bookshelfs and an Echo Dot for less.

Apple didn't mention shit about 3rd party support. Siri is way behind. Even Google Home has far less support than the Echo. You're paying $350 to get stuck with Homekit and iTunes.

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>>60770453
>super majority of world uses windows
>windows is irrelevant

>>60770472
you're probably right

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>>60770361
This, apple users are actually turbo cucks.

>>60770510
supermajority of life is bacteria

>>60769199
>Amazon Alexa == fine, if you like it
>Google Home == fine, if you like it
>HomePod == fine, if you like it
Jesus, where will the elitism end?

Also you bet your ass HomePod spies on you just as much as Home and Alexa.

Also also; Google Home and HomePod both need better names. Human names.

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>>60770472
All you need

>>60769342
>t. butthurt Lagdroid fan
You're only helping to prove his point.
Argue your point, but don't be a cunt about it. This isn't the YouTube comment section.

>>60770421
you do realize it's encrypted and the only thing being sent is your "hey siri" command? and only the hey siri part

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>>60770793
>trusting apple
dumbfuck

>>60770919
i've never actually used siri because of my tinfoil hat but that article also looks like bait and nothing related to siri. any examples or evidence of these backdoors? or how they allow access to user data? how about a direct quote from apple?

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>>60770972
>my tinfoil hat

lmao its on so tight it's cutting off circulation to your brain that you can't even see facts right in front of your face

I like the idea of having one, but I'm not gonna early-adopt shit shit either. I think what it's missing is smaller, cheaper accessory speakers - you can have your HomePod unit at your main entertainment center and then smaller speakers around the rest of your living space without dropping $350 per corner.

>>60770145
Why do all these faggots get on a stage and present to us like it's some fucking marvel. I miss the older days when you would just see advertisements for things. Nothing flashy like today with deformed humor. All these "big" technology companies need to be wiped off the fucking planet.

>>60770992
>literally hides source name
>no actual direct quotes
these are bullshit articles and you know it

>>60769199

>and guess what, HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.

Just because Apple dropped their in-house iAds program, doesn't mean they don't collect "anonymous usage statistics" which end up detailing your life far more than you care to let random companies and people know.

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>>60771024
>facts disagree with my distorted reality applel filter goggles so they must be fake

Mactoddlerism.

>>60770731
..."is love!" (heavily marketed by clueless and cancerous company this phrase, cued with ukulele instrument.)

>>60769354
A while ago and soon.
https://mycroft.ai/

>>60771053
i can literally create the same article if i wanted and presented it as facts. nothing of what you posted is concrete. at least with windows the botnet is incredibly obvious

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>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you
Got any proof, faggot?

>>60769199
>$350
DEAD

>>60771124
apple's word. can't prove a negative.

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>>60771175
>apple's word
All right, fampai. You do you.

>>60771124
they don't use all the data they collect about you in any nefarious ways. however, they do store it in icloud, which can be easily compromised by any outside entity.

>>60771211
icloud is encrypted though

>>60769338
>Looks like a wheel from a go kart in Mario.
That's why it's cute

>>60771220
and apple has the keys

>>60771299
wasn't there a whole hubbub about the fbi wanting to know how to get access to that info and not even apple could hack into it? and they refused to open a backdoor?

>>60769199
I can't wait for it to have a killer app ecosystem that makes it totally worth buying. They didn't botch the watch horrifically, so completely copying another product again certainly won't be a total failure either.

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So I looked at this again and it's actually somewhat interesting (overpriced, but still). The woofer size is all that matters in small speakers, and this thing has a 4" woofer. Echo and Home only use 2"/2.5" drivers at the most, and Sonos uses 3"/3.5". The only thing I'm wondering about is the "seven beam-forming tweeters" part. The purpose of omnidirectional is the exact opposite of beam-forming. Someone in marketing probably fucked up.

Design is still ugly as shit and Siri is crap as well, but the speaker part isn't that bad.

>>60771385
>Someone in marketing probably fucked up.

no, they are just throwing around buzzwords like every product launch. People actually use retina now to describe screens instead of just stating the fucking pixel density and resolution.

>>60771407
>People actually use retina now to describe screens instead of just stating the fucking pixel density and resolution.

i'm pretty sure it's still just apple doing that

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>$350

>>60771530
>google botnet

>>60769199
HomePod is right in line with most Apple products.
Very good at a limited number of things...and overpriced.
It seems like it will be a pretty good bluetooth/airplay speaker. Homekit integration is nice, since its fucking stupid you have to have an AppleTV or iPad for a hub right now.
Siri is way behind both Alexa and GoogleHome in terms of functionality, especially with regards to control/integration(Alexa Skills).

Its not a bad first effort, but Apple being Apple about it(low features,high price) isnt going upset the current trend. Though it probably is a pretty good but overpriced speaker

>>60769199
I doubt it would sound any better than my Sony Bluetooth speaker.

>>60769199
What it's for then?

>>60771385
Well given how directional tweeters are and how shit the audio is from the Home and echo, it may be actually decent acoustically. Doesn't change the fact that despite having an early lead they fucked up on their ai.

>>60771559
You're getting a lot of drivers for the price. More than two echo's put together.

>>60769329
yeah iShit threads are really a holocaust upon the constant torrent of "I'm a brainless consumer, think for me!" and "show me the same exact epic gaming battlestation you posted in the last 4 threads today!"

this board is always cancer, fuck off to Reddit if you're going to out yourself as this much of a newfag

I would hope that I could tell siri to play a playlist of AACs stored locally on my iPhone. being limited to apple music would be pretty bad since a lot of what I listen to is not in the catalog

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>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you
proofs?

>>60771889
the only thing we have to go by is that the device doesn't send anything you say to Apple servers until you say Hey siri to make a command. Voice data for commands is sent through anonymous IDs or whatever. Did amazon echo just listen to you all the time? I was never clear on that

>>60769199
Apple HomePod == DEAD

>>60769199
Siri is shit though.

>>60771907
>>60769199
>>60770717
== is for conditions. With this syntax you're asking whether it is dead or not.

>>60771906
Voice processing is done by sending the audio to a third party server for processing, and then the text is returned to the application which then uses it for a google search or amazon search or whatever.

They probably don't keep a permanent copy of the audio, but they do keep a record of every piece of text forever since it's pretty much free to.

Same with smartphones, they're always listening for the 'trigger word' and so they're always processing everything you say looking for it and then recording everything you say in their presence forever.

I have measured my erect dick using iphone 6. my dick's 1 cm longer than it. can i say it's long enough?

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>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.

Hahaha...no

>>60769273
>dead

No... I'm afraid the voice assistant category is quite healthy and still growing. Just because you don't like it, that doesn't automatically make it dead.

>>60769338

>100 bucks each year for the latest model of a device that does less

Where are you getting this figure from? I don't get it. I don't get what you're trying to say at all.

>>60769429

Honestly, whether I'd choose it over an Echo depends on a few things: whether the Siri implementation on it was up to snuff, whether HomeKit pans out, and most importantly, how the thing sounds. If the sound from the HomePod is out of this world -- which it looks like it might be -- it'd be worth it. $349 is not an extravagant amount of money by sound-system standards. You can easily find a sound bar that costs more.

>>60769502
>stereo linking

Forget that, I just want whole-house audio.

>>60769579
>>60769618
>stackexchange

Three out of the four items outlined on that post can be turned off, easily and indefinitely. Windows does not let you turn off its phone-home functionality easily *or* indefinitely. Completely different ball game.

>>60770472
>better bookshelfs for less

You have no way of knowing that. You haven't heard the HomePod yet. It's apparently very clever about its sound, with real-time adaptive acoustic modifications. I'm reserving judgment until I've heard it.

>>60770919

The source article from your pic is fucking nothing. It's almost completely hypothetical, and the "trusted devices" loophole is closed now that Macs are all going APFS and are encrypted just as securely as iPhones are. But I guess that's why you posted a picture instead of a link: because you expect us to be too lazy to go find the source.

>>60771838

What you listen to doesn't need to be in the catalog. Add it yourself. iTunes Match is part of all Apple Music subs now.

>>60771889
Buy/borrow/steal them and run Wireshark.

>>60771313
The FBI wanted to get access to a user's iPhone, which included backups of that phone's storage to iCloud. However, both the local data on the phone, and the data backups to iCloud, were encrypted with the key burned into the iPhone's security chip.

Eventually they got in via a vulnerability that allowed them to bypass the 10-passcode-attempts-before-wipe system. The phone in question was a model which counted the attempts in software, so it was possible to override the counter. Newer iPhones keep track inside the security chip, so that vulnerability has already been closed.

>>60771407
"Retina" just means "the pixel density is high enough to be irrelevant".

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>>60769802

Do you know where you are faggot?

>>60770641

>over 1 BN active Apple devices
>all 'turbo cucks'

Yeah, Apple has a marketshare of 15 people. Whatever you must believe to deal with your pegging fetish you dumb fuck.

>doesn't spy on you
these things can't not spy on you. but to be fair, apple seems to not share the private information of its customers as willingly as some of its competitors.

still won't get an always listening microphone for my home.

>>60773229
Still. Apple is the only company left in the planet that genuinely cares about user's data and privacy

>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.
lmao, these sheeps believe anything Apple says

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>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you

Do you really believe what comes out of your mouth?

>>60769802
if you don't think it belongs on /g/, then report it.
otherwise, hide it.

this isn't rocket science. stop acting like such a retarded faggot.

>doesn't spy
Why would you ever believe that

>>60769199
>and guess what, HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.
[Citation needed]
If it is connected to the Internet and responds to any form of indirect input (speech, movement, etc anything other than physical) then it is spying on you.

>>60773302
not OP, but i generally agree with the sentiment of >>60773244 in that apple hasn't made a business focusing principally on advertising. that's not to say that i implicitly trust apple, but when google or facebook or amazon tell me they're committed to my privacy, it's like a pedophile telling you they're serious about keeping your child safe. like, maybe they care, but only so they can enjoy it themselves later and not share.

apple might be collecting all this data and spying on users, but there's no immediately obvious motivation for them to do so, making their claim *slightly* more credible.

>>60773346
Because Google makes money from your information they protect your information.

Apple doesn't make money from your information, or at least it isn't their primary business, so they don't care as much about it.

>>60773397
that's the parallel i drew with the pedophile analogy. it's true, but it's not entirely reassuring. google and other data brokers are only interested in making sure they get paid for the work they put in. if a government (or anyone, honestly) offered enough money, selling your data would not only be totally reasonable, but completely within the normal operating procedure for these companies.

the case has been made (and apple has even traded on the idea) that apple makes secure personal devices. apple has no financial interest in making your data especially accessible, and the reputation they're fostering is forcing them to acknowledge a vested interest in ensuring that your data is wholly inaccessible except to you.

>>60769338
This, I don't really know how you could justify paying for dedicated hardware for this...
Buy some cheapo pi/whatever board, attach mic and speaker for under 15$, pay for service would be much more attractive for me.

>>60773483
i feel like every time we talk about apple products /g/ doesn't seem to understand that some people have more money, or don't spend their money in the same way as we do, etc...

i wouldn't buy this, but i feel comfortable setting up a raspberry pi and speakers and shit. if you don't instinctively stop to think "oh, yeah, but a lot of people would probably panic if they had to do all that", then go find a therapist and ask them for help dealing with autism or something.

>>60773450
>if a government (or anyone, honestly) offered enough money, selling your data would not only be totally reasonable, but completely within the normal operating procedure for these companies.
That would entirely ruin their business though and be a straight up violation of the terms they state they will abide by when you give them your information.

On Apple's part, their devices (phones only really) are very secure when off, not very secure when on. Apple are shit at patching vulnerabilities.

>>60769199
>siri: objectively the worst voice assistant on any device
>$500 for alway listening siri in your home
and the aplel fags will fucking lap this sloppy shit up and love it
i wish murder wasnt illegal

>>60773132
Do you ever think about how much all those dragon dildos are worth?

That's a sizable investment in fake wyvern penises.

>>60769199

>>> Amazon Alexa == DEAD
False

>>> Google Home == DEAD
False

>>> and guess what, HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

>>60769452

white is the best fampai

How does homepod compare to just getting up and not be a lazy fuck? I haven't upgraded that in like 30 years.

>>60769199
> fucking cheap
> not the usual apple price
guys, don't fall for the meme.
Apple wants your data

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>>60769304

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The trash bin gave birth?

>>60769199
Granted though, the thing looks way better than the alternatives.

>>60773905
very kawaii famablam

>>60769915
>>60770119
fucking breeders can't make up their fucking minds -- what else is new

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>>60769199
>the only one that doesn't spy on you.

>>60769534

If only Apple had some excuse for this, like protecting user data. Wait a second...

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>>60773684

Apple thinks different.

>>60775192
>If only Apple had some excuse for this, like protecting user data.
>Siri is bad because it is protecting your data.
What kind of an excuse is this?

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why is there so much apple shillposting going on all of a sudden
why don't you user evangelise on /gd/ or give promo codes for free dildos when checking out an order or something
nobody even likes apple stuff here

>>60775428

Siri is bad because Apple doesn't record everything you say and pump it into their ML.

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>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.

>>60770119
>Linuxfags = Pedos
Fucking kek

>>60770972
>it only listens to my voice when i tell it to
no one is this fucking dumb you just are blinded by the shiny new consumer shit

>>60770119
HA! GUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAY!

>>60769199
>Another product brought to success by apple in the always improving Cooks' era
>like the apple watch

Come one, one the iPhone came out it was incredible, so it was the iPad, macbooks defined what's enjoyability in laptops. I still have to see a good idea since jobs died

How do these companies not realize that no one wants an ugly overpriced box that you control only by voice. A phone app could do all of this better.

>>60775543

But this one is literally a Sonos speaker, with a mic. That's why it's good.

>>60775447
And?
They're already recording what you say and sending it to their servers so they can scan it and do search queries based off it. They may as well pump it into ML while they are at it.

>>60769199
>costs as much as an echo and a home together
not ded
>doesn't spy on you
it only uploads every word to apple if it hears "hey siri"! wow! it's the same policy as the echo and the home!

>>60775578
>Sonos speaker
which is still $100-150 cheaper

>>60769304
it actually looks like any cheap speaker you would buy... It's literally just black or white mesh

Seriously the only reason why companies want to make these useless things is spying.

>>60769745
>chromeOS is based on gentoo
checks out, chromeOS is the official /g/entoomans OS (at least chromiumOS is)

>>60770712
are bacteria insignificant? Last time I checked a few bacteria could BTFO any multicelled organism if you ignore it.

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What's all that hype about those shitty "personal botnet"?
I don't know anyone using these. I actually never seen anybody using voice control on a phone, Cortana, or shit like that.
Is it an American thing?

>>60769199
>and guess what, HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you.

>Apple
>not spying on you

>>60771022
You know that's a conference and not a fucking commercial, right?

>>60775698
Don't know, people here think it's "innovative" and "convenient", but those are normalfags. Nobody on /g/ with a brain and a demand for privacy will buy one of these.

>>60769199
I want to see it measured. Little loudspeakers can be quite good.

looks good

>>60769199
If i shill apple, Chad will suck my cock too?

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>>60769199

>A P P L E

>Doesn't spy on you.

AYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>60770919
delet this

>>60771077
D A M A G E
C O N T R O L

>>60769199
After reading up on it, the product seems rather amazing. I really, really want to see it in action.

>>60769199
oh boy another botnet speaker, this time with
>no open source code
>no free 3rd party api
>no known 3rd party api
>only works with siri and apple music
>botnet
even worse than the typical botnets, at least they give you the freedom to run the shit you want to. Why the fuck you'd buy an ecosystem locked speaker is beyond me.
Dont forget the ads, oh wait, apple products shilling apple products wont be considered ads

>>60769199
>HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you
topkek

>>60769802
This. Please.

>>60773905
:D

>>60775698
i don't know anybody using this either
maybe apis to languages other than english are too shit for this to be heavily marketed to us

>>60769199
"HomePod's the only one that doesn't spy on you." Are you fucking stupid?

>>60781724
good price

>>60781724
This is probably the better version of all those so far. Apple wasn't the first but it will be the best ... again.

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who would want a 24/7 on mic in their living room? LOL, botnet retards

>apple reveals their own version


APPLE DID IT AGAIN!! I TRUST THEM 100% SUCH INNOVATION AND DESIGN

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>>60769199
>doesn't spy on you
>apple

>>60769199
>mac pro sales are dropping
>take cylinder, make it solid
>wrap mesh around it
INNOVASHUN

>>60784900
Prove it does, cuckold.