Is this the new 2500K?

tfw to autistic about muh cores and got 1700

No. Because intel will have a new design in four years instead of 10.

>>60761383
Do you mean it overclocks extremely well? I thought the Ryzen chips didn't OC much.

>>60761383
No. That will be Zen 2. 7nm high power process means there should be some serious performance gains over Zen 1 from both increased density AND higher clock rates.

KEK
>ayymd shills cant even compete with old intel chips

>>60761920
by that logic intel can't even compete against their own old chips

>>60761383
As far as price/performance and longevity? Probably.

>>60761534
>just wait

It's not bad but the new 2500K is still the 2500K. There's zero reason to upgrade still

>>60762008

what are you talking about, intel apologists have been doing basically this since ryzen was first announced

>muh 7700k ipc
>nobody needs more than 4 cores
>d-don't worry about the 5820k-5960x or 6800k-6950x being worse ipc than 7700k

>>60764073

Thing is ryzen has higher IPC than kabylake.

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The 2500K didn't cost $200 and either came with a dogshit cooler or none at all.

So NO, it's better.

>>60764050
I'm sick of seeing this shit. Even modern i5's are starting to feel constrained. Your old-ass i5 straight up LOSES to even the lowest end Ryzen in basically everything. And it's a fucking quad core with SMT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYRx3TGYJkU

Even the "immortal" i7-2600K is starting to feel a bit long in the tooth.

>>60764661
i5's are fine for older games ala Skyrim or ARMA, BF multiplayer? The 7700k chokes like a turd, much less a i5

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>>60761383

>>60761534
Yeah, I'll be here waiting with my 1600X @ 4.0Ghz for those 4 years.

>>60761778
>zen 2 7nm
2026 will be a great year.

>>60761383
I prefer the 1500x because of it's superior single core performance

>>60761713
>Do you mean it overclocks extremely well?
No, he means extremely good price/performance on par with nothing else on the market.

>>60765653
>1500x
>single core performance

kek

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>>60765596

>>60765667
it's a whopping 4% faster lad

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1500X/3919vs3921

>>60765596
>>60765690
>pissmark
Nobody is going to take you seriously if you use that trash.

>>60761383
no, the clock speed sucks and it's only got haswell single core performance.
It's hopefully nehalem though and zen+ will bring us at least 4.5GHz
>>60764661
video with no system specs or actual footage that looks like it was made on tandy. Very reputable, shill.

>>60765690
Forgive me but I think that when upgrading my six year old processor, the upgrade ought to not be inferior in any category.

>>60765733
But even the 7700K meme is inferior in temps of temps. 2500K was based.

>>60765732
The test rig is described in the video description you cocksmoker.

>>60765690
>7 years
>still worse single thread performance
yep, AMD.

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>>60765717

>>60762008
>by that logic intel can't even compete against their own old chips

Intel dominates Intel. Intel on suicide watch.

>Good goy buy Intel over based Intel
>Buying Intel for muh ipc muh vidya muh oc

KYS anon for falling for the Intel memem. Should have just bought an Intel.

>>60765705
1500x just has higher gigahertz
Now compare it with the 1600x

This is probably the most dogshit thread on /g/ right now. So many retarded shills and trolls.

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>>60765690
I think I'll stick to 2500K...

>>60761383
No, it's the 7600K, performs extremely well in gaming. AMD CPU's are just a /g/ meme, like the Linux Desktop.

>>60765830
the price difference between the 1500x and 1600x is big, between the 1500x and the 1600 is not.

>>60765881
7600k is a stuttering piece of shit

I wish /g/ would just shill something completely dumb, and obsolete like an old Pentium Vaio.

>No botnet hardware
>no botnet os
>plays sacds
>Is a weird lavenderish/purple color.

>>60765905
prove

>>60765705
>4% faster
Just overclock the 1600 to 3.8+ GHz.

>>60765905
No, but your mom is. 7600k is doing great.

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>>60765942

>>60761713
the worst chips overclock by the most margin, cause ryzens dont go over 4ghz +-0.1, its really good to go with a 1400, 1600 or 1700 and just overclock those, since other than with the 1400 compared to the1500x, memory cache and core count is the same so you can get similar perfomance with an overclock on the stock cooler, meaning youll pay like 330 bucks for a 4 ghz octacore ryzen 1700 instead of 500 for the 1800x, which cant even go above 4.1ghz.

>>60765951
Can't play guf games like Arma tho.

>>60765951
>I'll keep posting my gpu bottleneck benchmark

>>60765970
>>60765970
>FPS games
>good games

You must be over 18 to post on this site

it's the new motorola 68000

>>60765951
What you fps in DCS? Why is and IPC only high in benchmarks, but can't play games that need single breaded IPC for shit?

>>60765901
1600 comes with a good cooler and can easily be OC'd to being the same shit as the 1600X.

>>60766002
only roguelikes are good

>>60765951
I'm only seeing the Intel performing better

>>60766023
Cawadoody clones and its ilk are all garbage.

>>60766002
Why is amd IPC only high in benchmarks, but it's not reflected when using software?

>>60766040
No compilers. Yet.

>>60766002
>Arma
>FPS

Bitch Arma is a simulation. I don't play games you whore. I run simulations.

>>60765951
>lower frame times
>worst
>AMD with 30ms spikes

>>60766082
Is that what your Razer gear tells you?

>>60766073
I'm still waiting on bulldozer compilers. When will the proper cumpilers be released for AMD CPUs?

>all these excuses for playing games

Just admit you're a child and be done with it, you're on 4chan.

>>60766082
>muh tacticool

>>60766002
Arma is gud games though. AMDfags will never know though.

>>60766084
The 7600K is all over the fucking place in every game, dipshit.
>>60766162
ARMA is trash wannabe militray simulator for tryhards and Twitch streamers. And it does run on AMD, just not as well. Though it's so poorly optimized it sometimes just tanks the fuck out of the FPS even on Intel.

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>>60766162
It's junk.

>>60766196
Where did your 1.2GB of memory go to?

>>60766257
Take a guess.
What can unused memory be used for?

Come on, this is baby-tier stuff

>>60766194
Only in Crysis that is old as fuck. In everything else it has lower latency average.

>>60766196
Overclock your cpu, and get more ram anon.

>>60766296
Why should I do either?

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>>60764661
IGNORE CORELET POSTS

>>60766194
>ARMA is trash wannabe militray simulator for tryhards and Twitch streamers.

Try it again after some practice. The game is fun, but you, and your and CPUs are just garbage.

>And it does run on AMD, just not as well.

It runs like shit on AMD.

>Though it's so poorly optimized it sometimes just tanks the fuck out of the FPS even on Intel.

I haven't had those moments in a long while, and I run max viewing distances.

>>60766308
Or don't. No one really gives a fuck about what you do as long as no one gets hurt.

>>60766382
Then why did you recommend me to do it in the first place assuming you know better than me what to do with my own hardware? Are you naturally a busybody?

>>60766352
Take one of your shiny tacticool guns, point it at your stupid fucking face, and pull the trigger.

>>60765646
>t. desesperate shill

It will be out by 2018.

>>60766404
>Then why did you recommend me to do it in the first place assuming you know better than me what to do with my own hardware?

You have an unlocked cpu, and you claim "it's junk", and posted a screenshot. A fix exists for it to be less junk. That fix would be to oc it. You didn't want to, and I don't really care if you do, so I moved on.

>Are you naturally a busybody?

Does it matter at this point? I get it you don't want to oc your cpu. Fine, you're just the type of person who wants to complain about something even though a known fix applies to the situation that you yourself is complaining about.

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This entire thread is just like every Intel shill that bawled their little eyes out over all the other threads over the past several days laughing at Intel's garbage HEDT platform are coming back and trying to get revenge by bringing up the usual stupid bullshit like ancient sandy bridge 4 cores, trash "games" like ARMA, pissmark, etc. Just really sad and pathetic backlash from literal manchildren.

>>60766511
I said ARMA is junk, not the fucking CPU.
If the CPU was junk I wouldn't be using it

>>60766443
I should take a tacticool virtual gun to my real face? All this abuse over the fact that AMD can't run one of the best series of pc gaming?

>>60766534
>I said ARMA is junk, not the fucking CPU.
If the CPU was junk I wouldn't be using it

The fix would be to oc your cpu, and upgrade the RAM.

>>60766558
You seem to have issues following the conversation.

>>60761434
You won't regret it 4 years down the line.

>>60766543
>one of the best series of pc gaming?
Tryhard edgelord simulator is not even a game.

>>60766578
>Arma is junk
>posts screenshot of an anemic build

You should overclock your CPU, and increase memory Anon.

>>60766543
I keep seeing in my head a monkey screaming how $THISYEAR cawadoody is the best game ever for the last 5 years.

It's kinda pathetic.
Or should I say expected.

>>60766641
Last decade. Should I be playing tomb raider, or aots?

>>60766627
See, this is a problem with manchildren, they assume everyone else is a manchild.

The weird memory capacity should have explained everything, but you can't really expect someone to actually know what it implies.

>>60766641
I keep seeing an and user not being able to play this game, and turns into a toxic reeebaby every time it's mentioned.

It's a beautiful thing really.

>>60766662
They're both shit.

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Pic related is your average tryhard that thinks it's worth buying Intel just to play the masterpiece of buggy poorly optimized shit that is ARMA 3.

Hopefully not. 2500k was as good as it was because intel didnt release anything good after.

If we're unlucky coffee lake will be the next 2500k if zen2 doesn't deliver.

>>60766696
you are very insecure. what happened to you?

>>60766696
Trying this hard to insult someone over a video game that and CPUs can't run.

Enjoy playing a game does not mean that an individual defines their whole being with it.

Is the single threaded performance really that big a deal?

>>60766825
try running ZELDA BREATH OF THE WIND on a AYYMD cpu pajeet and weep

>>60766847

who gives a fuck about emulation? or console games for that matter?

>>60766891
>who gives a fuck about emulation?
I give, and AMD can't emulate for shit.

>>60766671
>See, this is a problem with manchildren,
>they assume everyone else is a manchild

>Has issues about manchildren
>Autistically fights on /g/ to defend favorite brand CPU

>>60766825
Is moar cores really that big a deal?

>>60766847
>alpha quality emulator
Literally who cares?
>>60766921
>AMD can't emulate for shit
Aside from buggy alpha emulators, Ryzen is fine for emulation. It'll be pretty amazing once PS3 emulation really starts to take off.

>>60766891
>who gives a fuck about emulation?

Who gives a fuck about being able to do what they want on a PC really?

so many intel shills in this thread now

Why are you faggots so insecure? You've dominated the CPU market for ten years?
Your company is shit. They love feminists now.

>>60767042
>using a /pol/ strawman

Nigga face the facts. Ryzen can't overcome the 7700k or 6700k. If AMD made a cpu better than those two cpus then I'll be here using them.

>>60767042
kek
http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-responsibility/employees
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-named-a-best-2016dec05.aspx

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>>60765970
>>60766015
>Muh Arma
>Muh DCS
Nice cherry picking, shekelchaser.

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>>60767101
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/intel-teams-with-feminist-frequency-for-300m-tech-diversity-drive/0143562

>>60767142
what's a bingbus

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>>60766825
Not really. That's why the anti-AMD shitposters have to cherry pick scenarios like Arma 3 and DCS.

The overwhelming majority of gaming is done under the constraints of a GPU bottleneck, so as long as archaic game engines in DX11 at 1080p or less at 120hz or more and NOTHING ELSE isn't your use case then Ryzen is a more sensible choice.

>>60767199
That stupid thing ATi burned themself on 11 years ago and Intel is repeating it

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>stock r5 1600 beats stock 7600k
lmfao

>>60767239
google gives me nothing

>>60767269
Don't worry too much about it.

>>60767282
why make a meaningless meme that no one will understand then?

>>60767326
You're not the representative of everyone, plenty do understand it.
Either hit the books or ignore it.

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btfo again

>>60767237
>That's why the anti-AMD shitposters have to cherry pick scenarios like Arma 3 and DCS., Falcon BMS, Emulators, and other well known staple games that many dedicated groups of people enjoy. While the pajeets post misleading gpu bottlenecked benchmarks to give the false impression that AMD cpus perform similarly.

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>>60767254
You know the 1600x is the same price as the 7600k, right?

>>60767351
>>60767254
GPU bottleneck

>>60767350
I too don't know what a bingbus is, care to explain mr. smartass?

>>60767359
>buying the X versions when the non-X versions are 20-30% cheaper and come with a kickass stock cooler and can overclock the same.

Literally the only reason X CPUs exist are to be normalfag friendly

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>>60767355
>Falcon BMS
>Initial release date: 1998

>>60767359
Doesn't look the same scene to me.

>>60767388
That's not the point. The point is to note that the 1600x is priced the same and thus the 7600k has to clearly beat IT and not just the 1600 at stock clocks.

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AYYY EMMM DEEE

Shit processor

Shit Company

Look at this benchmark

>>60767391
>Falcon BMS
>Initial release date: 1998

Game is still being updated today in every aspect, and is considered the best fighter pilot simulation to date.

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>>60767434

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>>60767422
>0.2 seconds
What a impressive microbenchmark.

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>>60767422
Nice cherry picking :^)

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>>60761383

Sure as shit performs like one

>>60767470
higher is better

>>60767450
A lot of "cherries" have been picked thus far, and they're piling up.

>>60767451
Multiply that 1/5th of a second ten thousands times to get the real effect on your time

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>>60767499
>Arma 3
>DCS
>Falcon BMS
>Archaic emulators
Yeah, that's SO MANY :^)

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>>60767496
Oh sorry, I realized the 7600k was too slow to fit in that crop, here's the taller one :^)

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>>60767546
>>60767532

DELETE THIS

>>60767532
>Photoshop

>>60767532
This list is actually enough for some people to choose Intel over AMD.

It's not even including other simulators, shit coded Japanese animu autism games, or any other titles that will only run well on Intel.

There's too many small studios out there that fits a niche, and they don't optimize for any CPU that well. These currently are playable only on Intel cpus.

>>60767199
Ringbus

>not understanding spurdo

>>60767729
Finnish*

>>60767532

>Arma 3
>DCS
>Falcon BMS
>Archaic emulators

Things that AMD can't.

>>60767771
>Things that AMD can't.

ABANDON THREAD!!!

AMD CAN'T DENY THIS

>>60767101

>http://www.amd.com/en-us/who-we-are/corporate-responsibility/employees


>http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-named-a-best-2016dec05.aspx


ABANDON THREAD

>>60761383
There will never be a new 2500k. That proc could compete with the best for over half a decade. It was because it caught the wave of a big jump in perf and then it slowed down like crazy. If we get another 40% or so jump and then 5% for like 5 years then that proc will be the new 2500k.

>>60767895
How about some benchmarks from every fucking review site on the internet? http://imgur.com/a/wMm1C

I see you already picked up "pajeets" like the useless cocksucking dipshits around here despite AMD hiring ONE high profile Indian guy. Otherwise the company is more American than Intel. p.s. Kill yourself, tripfag.

>>60767722
Well, obviously. I'm not suggesting that if your use case actually IS totally dominated by playing those types of games and you don't care about how the computer performs at any other workload that you shouldn't buy a 7700k.

Just have the decency to admit that it is a niche use case and that in the majority of computationally intensive workloads an 1800x will be better for the exact same reasons a 6900k would be.

>>60765690
Clock per clock IPC?

>>60764120
i've got the 2500k since the beginning with its standard cooler and it works just fine even with overclocking.

>>60767927
calm down muhammed we know fags work at amd

>>60768025
>Well, obviously.

Only obvious now that you were pushed into a corner.

>I'm not suggesting that if your use case actually IS totally dominated by playing those types of games

>those types of games

The types of games that separate pc, and console gaming? If it wasn't for "those" types of games then there would be no reason to game on a PC instead of a console.

>Just have the decency to admit that it is a niche use case

The "niche" use cases adds up, and maybe your fellow amd shills shouldn't post garbage GPU bottlenecked "game" benches on /g/ in the first fucking place.

>and that in the majority of computationally intensive workloads an 1800x will be better for the exact same reasons a 6900k would be.

If there wasn't a cuda capable alternative method then sure a 1800x could benefit in those very specific workloads, and use cases.

>>60764661
>BF1 test measured in "bitrates"
what

>>60765758
not the 2500k which was prob cucked with 1333 ram.

>>60770623
Here's another vid with a bunch of older, newer and AMD Ryzen CPUs thrown in and tested all at once. https://youtu.be/AUOtTEMn-RU?t=5m35s

>>60765022
>Older games
>Skyrim
Fuck, has it been almost 6 years?

>>60769852
Back to /v/ gamer fags.

>>60761383
1600x is the best cpu for the money

>>60761534
With even better botnet for only 2000$