The Official /g/ Router Thread

>>60754337
>>moving from Consumer to Business grade edition
there is no such thing as business grade. it is just the same shitty consumer grade shit and at most does something retarded like support a few VLANs. the word you are looking for is enterprise class.

>Anybody else currently using a consumer router and want to migrate to using a business grade router when AC gets replaced by a new standard?
Just about anything enterprise class isnt going to have integrated wifi you retard. There are a handful of devices like Cisco 860 or 1901 routers which have it but they're absolutely retarded. If you're going to get enterprise class wireless you need discrete access points and will need a controller appliance as well if you want to use stuff features CleanAir.

>>60754464
True, but there's more integrated stuff as time goes on.

If you need router - buy router; if you need wireless ap - buy wireless ap, buying router with wireless ap is just getting worst of both worlds.
That said unify + rb750 (or more powerful, if you _really_ need it) will do the job just fine.

>>60754337
just get an old-ass computer and install pfsense if you want something that's "business grade"

>>60754489
Not anything enterprise class. Even cisco is killing off the integrated wireless controllers on their 3850 series switches. All that is left seems to be the ISR 800 series and all it supports is 10/100 and 802.11g/n

>>60754337
bought TP Link AC1200 (first gen) and when I flashed openwrt on it found out that it's the same hardware as AC1750 as TP-Link had hardware delivery problems at that time. Flashed AC1750 firmware with help of openwrt. Now have AC1750. Would buy again.

Just use a switch and have a firewall on your computer

>>60754496
>If you need router - buy router; if you need wireless ap - buy wireless ap, buying router with wireless ap is just getting worst of both worlds.
What?

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>>60754573
pic related is a real router, not a shitbox. they dont come with wifi because why the fuck would they. you can occassionally find switch cards in them, but no one uses them outside of tiny satelite offices. you use discrete devices.

>>60754590
But why would you even need one of those at home?

It's not even a case of overkill, you would literally get zero benefit from it.

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>>60754337
My UTM manages my three AP's for uniform wireless coverage.

Is the TP-Link Archer C7 AC1750 still the way to go or is there something better in that price range now?

A recent x86 box with vyos is better than 99% of the garbage out there. This includes "real" standalone routers as well

>>60754665
Wait for AC to be replaced and then buy. No point in buying a router now unless yours is broken. If it's broken, buy it.

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>>60754648
>But why would you even need one of those at home?
Because it isnt a shitbox which needs to be rebooted once a month? Because you want something with a real QoS system instead of the laughable ones you get in "business" grade shitboxes? Because you want to learn routing protocols?

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>>60754694
>Because it isnt a shitbox which needs to be rebooted once a month?
And >inb4 you only have 21 days uptime
I installed a software update which required a reboot. Even though this ASA is more than a decade old it still gets software updates.

>>60754694
>Because it isnt a shitbox which needs to be rebooted once a month?
Just install OpenWRT.
The only times I rebooted my router in the last 14 months were when I tripped the breaker by mistake and when I moved apartment. A grand total of three times.

>Because you want something with a real QoS system instead of the laughable ones you get in "business" grade shitboxes?
Potentially.

>Because you want to learn routing protocols?
A fucking waste of money. You can get emulator software for free if you want to do that or buy a shitbox Cisco router for cheap with all the same learning capability.
If anything your image is a testament to that. That device has two Gigabit Ethernet ports but a firewall throughput of only 300Mbps.

Wonderful throttle you have on your network there.

>>60754760

Is real QoS even possible on regular consumer cable/dsl lines?

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>>60754760
>Wonderful throttle you have on your network there.
It is just a firewall. My internet connection is 50mbps down because my area sucks for ISP competition. Pic related is what does the actual routing for my internal network. My ESXi box has a pair of 10GbE trunks to it. Does you're consumer grade shitbox have 10GbE?

>>60754799
No, but then I have no need for 10GbE.

>>60754836
>be innathread about 802.11ac
>but have no need for 10GbE
You do realize that .ac exceeds 1Gb?

>>60754799

Power to you man but I had few pieces of cisco equipment like AP's and voip phones and if you're not already familiar with cisco environment it's not worth the pain and time to learn how to properly set everything up. It took me days of research to accomplish things I could finish in an hour with consumer grade equip.

>>60754916
>it's not worth the pain and time to learn how to properly set everything up
It does if you work in IT. And having a enterprise class homelab is a good answer to interview questions such as 'how do you keep your skills up to date'

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>>60754867
>occult ritual to summon good ASUS customer support

>>60754844
>You do realize that .ac exceeds 1Gb?
Only in ideal situations.

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Rate me, /g/.

>>60754337
I just have pfsense running as another VM on my hypervisor box and gave it some intel NICs with vfio-pci.

Works for me.

>>60755250
I've got the AC68 that I've yet to set-up. Both are good from what I've read.

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It's serving me well.

I had a Netgear with 802.11g support only prior to that. It's kind of a wonder to see that I can actually get 80+ MBps over wireless (over short distances).

Also USB is actually nice, I used it to share files over LAN, and while it's not great for that purpose, it helps out a bit.

>>60754867
Is this a meme or is it actually any good?

Pfsense in a HP proliant microserver i jewed off of my brother who wasn't using it anymore. Very happy with that setup.
Not ever going back to premade consumer stuff

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*blocks your path*

>tfw all I want to do is make a SPARC-based *BSD router

Why do old Sun machines have to be so expensive?

>>60754916
>not enjoying setting up a network
I wish I had the money for a nice lab setup at home.

I need a new router because mine can't handle more than about 100-150mbps through my VPN.

Which i'd like to at least see up at 300-500mbps. But currently this would require a $4,000+ router. Or a custom built PFsense box.

>>60756607
> VPN
Which type? Ipsec, ovpn, something else?

>>60756607
That's quite some throughput. What kind of VPN are you using, IPsec or OpenVPN?
You might want an x86 box that does hardware AES, an APU2 would probably suffice

>>60756713
>>60756720
Single client, OpenVPN currently.

And yeah, x86 box with AES and PFsense was my first thought.

>>60756750
Sounds like a viable option. I'm not knowledgeable to recommend any HW options though :/

>>60757159
Yeah, it's more of a long term desire, i'm fine with 100-150mbps throughput for now, it wasn't an issue at all when I had 150mbps internet, but now that i have 1gbps, I want to be able to utilize more of my bandwidth.

What's the best wireless ap/router which actually runs DDWrt or OpenWRT, they're quite limited when it comes to wireless device support.

>>60757186
The WRT1900AC

>>60757178
Any chance of going on jewbay and buying some used equipment for it?

>>60757186
>>60757195
Or the WRT3200ACM

>>60757197
That was my other idea, just to pick up a used dell server or some shit, throw an extra NIC or two in if needed, and throw PFsense on it.

Still would be expensive, but not nearly as expensive as a true blue Cisco router or similar setup, those fuckers are charging like $2,000+ for a router/firewall that can handle over 500mbps VPN throughput.

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>>60757186
>>60757195
>>60757199
Terrible line of routers

>>60757232
Meh, they're not bad. They aren't my favorite for sure though.

>>60755880

probably ok

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-monster-ac5300-wireless-routers-face-asus-rt-ac5300-vs-netgear-nighthawk-x8/performance-conclusion-12

>2017
>not using pfsense

That said I just bought a new house and I don't think I'll be able to put my edge gear in the garage like it is now, so it's going to have to go in the house. My pfsense box is a fanless atom board in a 1u case, but the power supply provides the airflow and is loud as hell.

Should I try to make it silent or switch to a ubiquiti security gateway?

>>60757588
What throughput are you getting with the Atom box?

With QOS the USG only manages like 200mbps throughput.

With L2TP/PPTP throughput is only 25mbps

>>60757772
It does around 750mbs. I have a 300mbs connection so it's good enough for that. I do not have qos enabled. I have openvpn server running on it, but I've never tested the throughput on a fast connection.

>>60757927
well the USG would be fairly similar performance most likely. Maybe a bit faster.


But keep in mind, it's CPU is like 3 years old now, so it's nothing great for faster connections.

300mbps isn't SUPER fast, but fast enough I could see it being a bottleneck for certain situations.
It's going to depend what you do with your network however, it could be a perfectly viable option for you.

>>60754799
>50 Mbit Internet
>using 10 GbE
Why in gods name?

>>60757947
Will only have 150mb at new house. Unfortunately I'm going from fiber from a private telco within no caps to Comcast with cap, more expensive, less bandwidth.

>>60758016
yeah with 150mbps then you should be fine unless you want full throughput during VPN.

>>60757960
Because he's a retard who read a comment saying routers with wireless ap built in are garbage and now he thinks he's an expert and wasted a bunch of money on stuff he didn't need.

I like my Ubiquiti setup. Edgerouter X, Unifi Switch 8, and an AP AC Lite. Nice middle ground between enterprise and consumer. I don't know why that other guy is advocating for Cisco in a home environment. The only time I'd ever have Cisco shit in a home setup is in a CCNP lab or something. Fucking licensing nightmare.

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Got a FortiGate 60E with a FortiAP

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Range is insane on these things. Maxing out my 100/100 broadband connection.

>>60758661
useless for me, i tried them and at most I could get 80-120mbps from more than a room or two away.


Garbage for anyone on an actual fiber connection.

You're far better off with Ubiquiti access points.

>>60758692
Works for me. Like I said, maxing out my 100/100 broadband which is fiber optic.

>You're far better off with Ubiquiti access points.
Why would I have several different access points. Are you stuck in 2007?

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>>60758753
>Why would I have several different access points. Are you stuck in 2007?

What the fuck do you think the orbi is?

All these meme mesh wifi systems are garbage if you have any decent amount of bandwidth.


For now you're dropping $600+ on high quality access points, or you're running ethernet to every computer in the house and your wifi devices be dammed.

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>>60754590
>>60754694
>>60754741
>>60754799
>Using Cisco ever
Enjoy your government backdoors.

>>60758784
>What the fuck do you think the orbi is?
Mesh Wifi, so one access point split between multiple routers or satellites as Netgear calls them.

>All these meme mesh wifi systems are garbage if you have any decent amount of bandwidth.
How so? You haven't explained why. Can you even explain why?

>For now you're dropping $600+ on high quality access points, or you're running ethernet to every computer in the house and your wifi devices be dammed.
Or I spend $399 on a Netgear Orbi deal which includes an extra satellite, which I did, and get maximum speed from my ISP everywhere in my 2800sqft house. I only have one ethernet cable and that's for my NAS.

Is there any routers capable of running openvpn and shadowsocks at 90mbit?

>>60758856
>How so? You haven't explained why
Because they're 2x2 radio setups, so even in the BEST case scenario, you'll get ~850mbps. And that would never happen in a house environment, realistically you're looking at 300-500mbps maximum throughput in real world scenarios.

The first mesh system that uses 4x4 setups for the base station as well as the satellites might get my money. But until then, NONE of the current mesh systems on the market will get more than half of my bandwidth to a client device.

I'm far better off getting a Ubiquiti 4x4 access point or two and setting them up in my house than using ANY current mesh system on the market.

ITT: spergs sperging

>>60758908
Alright, fair enough. But our use cases are clearly different in that I move my devices all over my home and connecting to different access points is a thing of the past for me. Aside from my desktop of course which is in my office.

>>60758931
>connecting to different access points is a thing of the past for me.
Ehhh?

You know you can just set them to have the same SSID and then make sure they broadcast on different non-overlapping channels, your devices should switch seamlessly between access points without any user intervention.

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One of these I purchased in 2012 with tri 9dbi antennas.ddwrt installed. Serves as a AP.

i have this router, the lack of features is annoying

>>60754337
i had a tplink archer c5 v2. thing would drop connection all the time. replaced it with a netgear r6400, no problems

my parents have a tplink archer c5 v2. drops connection all the time.

>>60758931
>I move my devices all over my home and connecting to different access points is a thing of the past for me.
lololol wait, so you bought a mesh wifi system because you're too retarded to properly configure your access points so they handoff connections seamlessly?

wew lad, what are you even doing on /g/?

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>not rocking one of these + AP AC Lite

plebs

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>The Official /g/ Router
>Posts some shit router made in China that comes with a backdoor from factory and some shitty OS.

Why is this place so shit now? Years ago the official /g/ router would have been some Open-source hardware system board running OpenBSD instead of consumer bullshit.

>Friends don't let friends use commercial routers

>>60758661
Seconding this. Outscored Ubiquiti and all other consumer routers in raw throughput and range.

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33028-netgear-orbi-reviewed

>>60759322
>>60759232
The only 2 worthwhile answers ITT.

>>60754337
Ubiquiti edge router is /g/ and basically nothing else unless you're making your own using juniper or anything else Linux based

>>60759344
>Outscored Ubiquiti
Correction, it out scored ubiquitis ONLY consumer product which is highly regarded as fairly low end.

Ubiquitis REAL access points would destry the orbi and others.

You'll just be spending $200+ per access point. But you'll get 3x the throughput.

>>60759232
>>60759389
my niggaz

>>60759097
install openwrt

>>60759396
Yep. I have one of the $300 APs to send wifi to a property 5 miles away on a different mountain. Works well

>>60759232
Why is ap AC lite so good? The pro one costing 3 times more with 3 bands instead of 2 puts out a weaker signal lol

>>60759457
how reliable is it? can't have my router crashing

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Im using one of these backdoored chinese botnets with pfSense.

>>60754337
I have a fortigate on my edge running the full UTM suite.

>>60759545
100%

really I assumed every tp-link meme posted here was flashed with openwrt, I guess not

>>60759645


me too. we are Platinum partner and get decent small business models for free

what model and what AP are you using

>>60754337
Just flash project lede on it faggot

>>60754337
>router thread
okay, i have the classic blue box for wifi and run ethernet for desktop and console and its been what i've been doing for years, at what point do i have to/should i buy into the mesh routing meme?

>>60760698
>classic blue box
>wrt54g

Damn, I still have mine, too. I dont use it, but, I still have it.

>>60760506
I have a fortiwifi 60d, wifi disabled with a ubiqiti AP instead.

>>60759322
/ourguy/

I think I might've coined the phrase you used at the end.

>>60754337
Mikrotik RB2011UIAS-RM + hAP ac lite as wireless AP do the job for me just fine, zero issues and supports VLANs

Would buy Mikrotik again, RouterOS is pretty cool after you learn it

I'm using an old pc with two gigabit ethernet cards using pfsense which is connected to two bt hhs via a switch which act as wireless aps.

Am I missing something or is this a good setup?

>>60757232
>>60757256
Meant to type "terrific," autocorrect bungled it.

>>60754337
You seem to be confusing access points and routers faggot. Why would you use the same low power cpu and ram for 3 functions faggot, you want Enterprise grade which a router for routing, and an access point for wifi. Cheapest Enterprise like system are ubiquiti for Soho

>>60757960
>Why in gods name?
you do realize that some people actually use a network for more than downloading hentai?

>>60763946
>ubiquiti
Not enterprise class at all

>>60764551
The Ubiquiti AC HD uses the same chipset as the Ruckus R720 which costs 4x as much.

As for pure routers, ubiquiti doesn't really make one, they have the edgerouter lite and pro, but those are low powered and not meant for true high throughput environments.


My personal setup is a PFsense box and a 3rd generation i3 CPU for routing, connected to my Ubiquiti AC HD access point.

>>60754337
>The Official /g/ Router Thread
What kind of name is that?

>>60762849
I'll be doing this exact thing soon enough. I have a dual core lenovo machine with two Intel gb nics. Just need to dabble in pfsense then hook it up to my existing gb switch. I have two AP in the house.

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>>60754337
>not using router with windows setting

mikrotik HAP AC LITE user here

>>60764650
>The Ubiquiti AC HD uses the same chipset as the Ruckus R720 which costs 4x as much.
You do realize that is far more to a wireless solution than chipset? The only reason /g/ shills Ubiquiti/Microtik is because they sell the cheapest poorfag gear which can be rackmounted, and it has a GUI because /g/ is too retarded to use a CLI.

Does Ubiuiti's offer anything comparable to CleanAir or whatever other vendors call it? Where it is constantly scanning channels for the one with the least interference, and then uses it? No. It does it once at boot up and then just uses it the entire time. Can it do the same thing with numerous access points and automatically adjust power output to ensure the radios are interfering with each other? Again no. There is a reason why this is the faction of the cost, and that is the lack of software.

>>60764868
>if it expensive it is good

being this mad...
starbuck, microsoft, mcdonald all use ubiquity and mikrotik routers...

theres nothing wrong with it

you must be apple fanboy isnt it??

>>60764993
>starbuck, microsoft, mcdonald all use ubiquity and mikrotik routers...
Not at corporate campuses. Maybe at a retail location where you have a few people using wifi but in any sort of campus environment you wont.

stay mad that your "enterprise solution" is anything but.

>>60765101
Lol yeah, 200 concurrent users with up to 500 supported, totally not used for a corporate campus.


Honestly, anywhere that isn't in the middle of a city could easily use the Ubiquiti products, manually set the channels so they don't overlap, assuming your corporate campus is solely owned by you, it shouldn't be a problem with an interfering signals since you should be the only one setting up networks in the building.


Also, they've already talked about getting that feature in a future firmware update, it's one of the most requested features.

>>60765101
I setup 2 university campus using mikrotik and ubiquiti equipment so ur statement is invalid..

>>60765161
>manually set the channels so they don't overlap
hahaha. why the fuck are you manually setting things? oh thats right, the "controllers" are too fucking retarded to do this for you?

>it shouldn't be a problem with an interfering signals since you should be the only one setting up networks in the building.
oh thats right, it is too retarded to do rogue detection and containment either. you do realize those features exist for a reason in real enterprise class equipment.

>>60765168
>i'm too retarded to use a CLI so I fucked over a customer
>the post.

>>60765231
Are you aware that at least RouterOS has fully functional CLI? If you prefer CLI you are totally free to use that instead of WinBox or WebFig

I don't give a fuck about Ubiquiti as I don't use them, I only have experience with Cisco and Mikrotik, and RouterOS on Mikrotik routers do have CLI

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>>60765231
nope
customer doesnt complain...
the one complain is you..

BTW how much did cisco pay you ??

>>60765348
They're laughable products from a company too poor to develop their own ASICs. Literally everything is punted to the CPU and done is software. You want to know why they dont offer anything with 10GbE or higher? Because thier shitty ARM CPUs could never keep up.

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is tomato a meme?

>>60765453
Yeah how dare they not have the millions laying around to develop an ASIC.

Lol fuck off, you realize this thread is about home setups right?

>>60758823
why are you committing felonies on your home premises with your regular hardware? Are you a dodo?

>>60765635
>home setups
You do realize that I have Cisco gear at home? It isnt that expensive on ebay. Want a AC access point? Get a Aironet 3602 with a AC module for ~$100. Want a 10GbE switch? Get a 40 SFP+ port Nexus 5020 for ~$300. Need a router, ISR G2s are cheap as well.

>>60765819
And you MUST realize, that you're autistic, or least on the spectrum for doing this?

Who the fuck runs cisco shit at home anyway? Subscription licensing for a home router is fucking retarded.

>>60765893
>Who the fuck runs cisco shit at home anyway?
People who work in IT?

>Subscription licensing for a home router is fucking retarded.
What the fuck are you even talking about?

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>>60765819
>hurr durr look at me i run cisco equipment in my home that means they are for home use and i look up tutorials on youtube by pajeet how to set them up on cli that makes me a big expert look at me hurr durr im a big expert

>>60765934
>ISR G2s are cheap as well
I wouldn't call $800-5,000 cheap. But maybe different strokes for different folks.

The Merkai line are generally what a home user would be using, and they charge yearly subscription fees.

>>60765991
>>ISR G2s are cheap as well
>I wouldn't call $800-5,000 cheap.
wut? The 3945E, the biggest ISR G2 they made is $600 on ebay. Smaller ones are even cheaper.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-CISCO3945E-K9-Tested-1-Yr-Warranty-Free-Shipping-See-Pics-/272687251210?hash=item3f7d6d3f0a:g:g9MAAOSwax5YzCut

Only the new 4000 series costs that much.

>The Merkai line are generally what a home user would be using, and they charge yearly subscription fees.
The Merkai line is for people who can't deal with a cli and they're a retarded product because of the subscription fees/muh cloud.

I currently have an ASUS RT-N56U and am having issues with it, such as frequent connection drops, slow speeds, etc. Can someone recommend a "just works" router?? What are some reputable router companies.

>>60766070
Or people who dont want a fucking full rack in their damn house.

>>60766070
What kind of autism do you need to have to actually want huge shit like that in your house and even be proud of it? How much power even do these fucking bricks eat?

>>60766099
Flash Padavan on it if its B1 model

>>60766102
>he doesnt want to have a rack
I need to get one. I have 17U worth of equipment in use. I actually want to get a pair of SuperMicro or HP 14U racks and make a desk out of them.

>>60766163
>if its B1 model
How can I tell?

>>60766163
>What kind of autism do you need to have to actually want huge shit like that in your house and even be proud of it? How much power even do these fucking bricks eat?
The 3945E uses 150 watts under a full load for the router itself. If you load it up with PoE switch cards, obviously it would use a lot more.

>>60766167
Wew, my autism suspicions were spot on

How bad of an idea is it to have your gateway router as a virtual machine rather than running on native hardware?

>>60766170
Not sure actually, I don't have the damn thing anymore. It used to disconnect all the time on stock firmware, it worked perfectly until I switched my router to another one with Padavan

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-N56U_B1

Check if this helps, but if it's recent it most likely is a B1

>>60766181
So why the fuck would I want to use a shit ton of power for a fucking ROUTER only, when my current equipment is under 10 watts? Bet it makes shit ton of noise too. >>60766183 is spot on, you have autism.

>>60766203
Assuming you're talking about this consumer grade shitboxes, none, because they're doing everything in software on a shitty ARM chip.

>>60766183
I have even more equipment if I had a rack to install it in. a ~48 port terminal server i took home from work. and i really need to get a 4U chassis to use as a disk shelf because im running out of space and want hot spare disks as well.

>>60766229
features nigger. and not having it be shit like >>60766099

>>60765765
>the current year
>Implying that government backdoors stay hidden from hackers and foreign governments.

top hack

>>60766268
There are MUCH cheaper inbetween alternatives that aren't nearly so autistic.

You obviously have a hardware fetish however, so nothing we say is going to change your mind.

>>60766207
I figured out I don't have the B1 (v2) version. Damn, do you know if there are any decent custom firmware for this regular version?

I have made guest AP, put a password on it and limited the bandwith to ~200KBps (actually it's 200x8Kbps, whatever).
Internet access doesn't work at all. What could it be? How can I assure myself it's routers fault and not mine?

>>60766283
>There are MUCH cheaper inbetween alternatives that aren't nearly so autistic.
Such as? Go show me something a decade old which is still supported by the manufacturer.

>You obviously have a hardware fetish however
So? At least these skills can be applied to work. What about all the fags on here who spend all day color coordinating their components, loading their PCs up with LEDs, and retarded overclocking and calling a computer stable because it can play vidya for an hour without crashing.

>>60766349
>So? At least these skills can be applied to work. What about all the fags on here who spend all day color coordinating their components, loading their PCs up with LEDs, and retarded overclocking and calling a computer stable because it can play vidya for an hour without crashing.
again, just look at you jumping to extremes.

It's either gaymer LED trash, or enterprise grade CLI bullshit?

fuck off, no one wants to deal with that shit at home, if you work with it at work, why the FUCK would you want to make MORE work for yourself at home?

You have a problem, seek help

>>60759559
What kind of throughput are you getting with that? Those use the J something CPU right?

>>60766393
>no one wants to deal with that shit at home
People obviously do, and may significant amounts of money to do so. Go in to one of the home server threads here sometime. There are people here more autistic than me. Now stop being mad that I called your shitbox trash.

>>60766268
My Mikrotik does the job and has all the features I need for my simple needs and has been reliable, doesnt make noise, doesn't eat shit ton of power, doesn't weight a ton and take space and much cheaper as new compared to used Ciscos. Zero reasons to be autistic and buy shit like that for home use, that's just plain retarded.

>>60766283
>>60766393
This guy is simply spot on, you have a problem and no one can change your mind that its not even worth arguing with you. It just feels like you feel like you are cool by running dumb shit like this at home and claim that everything which involves GUI is garbage although there are alternatives without GUI too.

>>60766431
>may
pay

>>60766431
You realize those threads are echo chambers for those just as sick, or potentially more sick than yourself? It's not like it's common AT ALL, I wouldn't call 3 dozen autists jerking each other off about their enterprise surplus a common occurance, 99.9999999% of people will never have even a single 1U piece of equipment in their house, to think it's even remotely common to have multiple rack mounted equipment is just retarded.

>>60766453
>has been reliable
Those are laughable meme boxies with notorious shitty software where features are constantly broken from release to release.

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Love yourself a little

>>60754337
>getting 150 net so need a new router
>go into store tell the seller that I need a router that can use the 150 because the one I have is a shitty 54mpbs wifi router with 100 ethernet port
>she gave me one with 300 mpbs written on the package
>it's still only 100 ethernet port not 1000 so I can't fully use my 150 net
>return
>she gave me another one 500mpbs
>it's still only 100 ethernet
>return it and tell her what I need
>she basically doesn't understand what I need
>there's a dude who actually knows his shit
>ask for him
>"oh yeah, this is the one you want, sorry for the inconvenience"
fucking hell man

>>60766312
Seems like the regular one is actually supported by Padavan too, and even OpenWRT according to that wiki when the B1 isn't. OpenWRT is popular, I haven't tried it myself since I don't have compatible equipment but seems like it usually should be pretty good. Check that out if it is indeed compatible with it

>>60766494
Shit whenever I try and upload the padavan firmware (not the B1 version, i have the correct version) i get the error "Invalid Firmware Upload"

>>60766479
Yet it keeps my simple network running with no issues with latest 6.39.1. Why I would want to use something autistic power hungry expensive noisy shit like the Cisco you linked in home use? Your only argument against it seems to be "it's shitty software and its broken".

Works for me, and software is fine. I believe you don't like it only because it's not the same thing companies use and you must feel like a big enterprise guy by running stuff like that home

What should I do /g/?
I have a shitty router from my ISP that has no QOS and my family is hogging the bandwith with Facebook and YouTube. I bought a TP-Link W8960N only to find out the phone won't work because the ISP jews out on VoIP and basically blocks it on any router that isn't their shitty one. Is there any way to get QoS from the TP Link yet still have the phone functionality provided by the shitty one? I already tried the bridge mode which resulted in me only being able to connect and the connection wasn't working 100% all the time.

>>60754648
Not him, but pfSense runs on shitboxes so long as it has two NICs and two cores.

If you have a bit more memory and maybe a low power quad-core, you can start adding lots of other features into pfSense, too.

You don't need a "real" router. You want a router that isn't walled off piece of shit that has backdoors and vulnerabilities. pfSense is open source, secure, easy to configure, runs on a lot of PC configurations, and is actively maintained.

It's the same deal with FreeNAS vs buying a shitty commercial NAS enclosure where you pay for the _privilege_ of putting 2 drives in the enclosure rather than 1, you pay for the _privilege_ of getting RAID 5 support instead of 0/1/10, you pay for the _privelege_ of being able to allocate more drives + storage after the storage pool is initially created, you pay for the _privilege_ of having advanced diagnostics of storage usage, etc.

When you go FreeNAS, you get to choose whatever the fuck you want, and despite the autism regarding ECC memory, my FreeNAS box has run without issue on a RAIDZ 4x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint + 8 GB DDR2 system for over 3 years now.

pfSense + discarded or no longer used PC + possibly an extra 2-port or 4-port NIC card and you're good to go.

If wireless access is a big priority, then getting a Unifi or Ruckus Access Point is a lot more robust and has a lot more range than the anemic 8x 3dbi antenna packages that come in commercial routers.

Do you use stock firmware, or make sure to buy something that's supported by dd-wrt, etc?

>>60766584
What services are you running on it?

>>60764551
>you do realize that some people actually use a network for more than downloading hentai?
A home network. Yeah. You are a complete fuckin idiot.

Wtf ??? You autistic use 150w router at home??

My router run on fucking usb port...
Consume just 3.5w...

>>60766719
That's the low power draw too, throw some extra PoE GbE cards in there and you can easily hit 300w+

>>60766760
Your posts are starting to go on a level that I can't be sure are you serious or trolling at this point. People talk about their home environment here, not a datacenter or autistic care centers like where you are apprently

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>>60766760
Its not, its max power draw for the router. And no shit you can make it consume a lot more of if you're running it full of SM-D-ES3G-48-P cards with a shit ton of APs or cameras all using PoE.

>>60766902
thats a different anon you tard

I'm a bit clueless on networking. I recently upgraded my internet and it goes above 100mbps, so naturally my wireless router that only has 100 megabit ethernet is bottlenecking it. My question is: can I buy a cheap gigabit switch, attach my internet modem, my main PC via cable to the switch, and my router (to the switch) for wireless devices and expect everything to work?

Otherwise I might go for a Netgear R6700 that's going for $80 on Amazon, or an Archer C7. The "real stuff" seems too costly for me.

>>60767107
>can I buy a cheap gigabit switch, attach my internet modem, my main PC via cable to the switch, and my router (to the switch) for wireless devices and expect everything to work?
no. consumer grade switches wont do NAT/PAT. Even most high end switches wont do it. Things like the Cisco 6500/6800 will but those use a couple hundred watts just for the fans.

>>60767107
it depends on if your modem is strictly a modulator/demodulator (modem) or if it's a gateway device (or in other words, another router)

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>>60754799
>Mac user
>Overpriced enterprise grade equipment
>10GBe
>50mbit connection

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>>60765819
>Mac users actually think this way

>>60767107
No, you want your router to connect to your modem. That way it'll handle NAT and Firewall.

Just installed padavan on my RT-N56U and OMG i have never seen speeds so fast on the 5Ghz connection!! WEW LADS! fuck asus

>>60754337
Don't forget OpenWRT for TPLink devices, the performance and security is by miles better, as well as features, still make sure your hardware is supported, the stock firmware is garbage.

What does /g/ think about tp-link wdr4310, you can get thoose for cheap from aliexpress now.
http://s.aliexpress.com/vaqYNbMj

I bought a Netgear X10, what are the best settings for super Sonic internet?

Why shouldn't I use a WRT54G with my 50Mb/s fiber?

>>60766493
why do they say that its an 300mbps router when its really only a 100mbps router? most consumer router manufacturers do that now.

>>60766242
I was actually talking about DIY or enterprise-grade solutions. I have two WAN connections now and I was wondering if I should split the resources in my old C2750 server with two VMs running pfsense rather than buying a second N3700 board for a second physical gateway.

>>60767837
because it has shit range and it can only support a single device at a time, so if you have multiple devices they'll have to wait each time another device is talking to your router.


New routers support MU-MIMO which allows the router to talk to multiple devices at once, and allows them to communicate together instead of one of them having to wait a moment.


As well as faster overall bandwidth if you do wireless local file transfers or similar.

What's the best openwrt router?

>>60767923
see
>>60757195
>>60757199

>>60767930
Difference between the two except price?

using the fritzbox provided by my ISP here

works fine

>>60767970
Speeds.

One supports over 2gbps over wifi. If you have slow internet, and never do local file transfers over wifi, then it's irrelevant and the AC1900 version would be fine (and it still can do over 1gbps over wifi anyway)

>>60767160
>>60767194
>>60767301
Thanks for the answers. Also, the modem is just a modem and not a gateway.

Would it be worth it to get something like an EdgeRouter X and using my wireless router as an access point? It's an old Asus RT-N53 (dual band N600). Should be fast enough for what I do on my phone and laptop.

Quick question for all you networking wizards. If the router is 15-20ft from my computer, and I have a big antenna, and my speeds are ~120Mbps wired, what should the ideal wireless speed be? I live in an old house so the walls are thick,

>>60767994
Thanks. I'll get the 1900ac since it's cheapest where I'm at.

>>60768035
Depends on the router and the wifi card used.

With a 2x2 router and 2x2 wifi card, you could probably see 75-90% of that.

With a 3x3 or 4x4 router and a 2x2 or 3x3 wifi card, i'd expect you to get full speeds.

>>60768064
I have an Intel AC 7260 and get ~65.00Mbps 5Ghz, that seems pretty shit

>>60768163
with what router?

Guys I wanna upgrade my router hardware
Was planning on running pfsense + some Ubiquiti AP.
Are the chink boxes with Intel NIC on Amazon any good? I need the hardware to consume low power

>>60768167
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-N56U

So I have a router on the floor below. My desktop is in my room and I'm sharing an Ethernet connection through a laptop that's connected to wifi.

What's the best solution:
Get a pcie wireless network adapter or get a powerline adapter

>>60768181
If you were in the same room within 5 feet you might see full throughput, but that's not a very powerful router, and it's several years old using 802.11n. The current standard is 802.11AC-wave2

>>60767845
300mbps on the wireless. If it's not a gigabit router then it will have 10/100 Fast Ethernet.

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>>60766669
Hell yeah.

Pfsense running on an old Athlon dual core shitbox. My home network has been rock solid ever since switching.

I've got a very nice basic setup.
Motorola Modem
Switch
Netgear AP

>>60759322
Talk me more about this hardware senpai

>>60759344
>>60765231
You realize edge series has cli right?

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>>60754337
>moving from Consumer to Business grade edition
Yeah no fuck that. you're a consumer not a business and if you're paying for a bunch of features you don't need you're retarded.

I want a good router that doesn't have any massive downside and doesn't cost 500$.
Any help?

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>>60768472
not that guy but I believe it's one of PC engine's boards. They make x86 single-board computers with multiple NICs.

https://www.pcengines.ch/

I think these guys also make the hardware that netgate uses for their pfsense routers.

https://www.pfsense.org/products/

>>60768179
Just research the throughputand make sure it's fast enough for your connection. If you have less than 100mb/s any of those power boxes should be adequate.

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Anybody know anything about the xiaomi router?
>inb4 durr china stuff has backdoors in it cuz it comes from china that spies on their population unlike america who has never been caught doing anything shady ever, dont by china stuff durr durr im a fucking retard and i cant provide any evidence for my claims.

>>60768575
How does it hold up to a single 500Mbps connection?

>>60768472
Well, the nice thing about open hardware like in that picture is the level of engineering information available from the manufacturer (in this case PC Engines) web site including tech specs, manual, BIOS updates, accessories, enclosures, diag boards and also: Schematics!

https://pcengines.ch/schema/apu2c.pdf

>>60766485
>100mbps
kill yourself, you fucking nigger

Ubiquiti shill reporting in

>>60768676
Does this mean I can go to my local foundry and make a copy of this hardware?

>>60754337
I have this router at home it's fucking d0pe

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>>60754337
>Business grade edition

>I got you senpai

>>60768940
*blocks my path*

>>60767974

Awful QoS though.

I need a new modem, and router. Fuck paying Comcast $10 a month for a device that I'll never be able to keep.

What is a good modem that works with Xfinity? For a router I'll get something similar to the OP.

>>60769345
Its an ISP grade router, we provide shit like this to clients when they need a router somewhere in their infrastructure

>>60769808
>ISP grade router
I think you mean enterprise class. An ISP would use one of the ASR or CSR series.

>>60769652
Motorola/Arris Surfboard.

>>60769855
Depends on what the client requests

The ASR are usually something the client has on their end, we don't provide those unless there's a long term contract and a lot of money coming in

>ISP grade router
I think you mean enterprise class
You know what I mean though...

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>>60768638
Wait till stores start sales of Mi WiFi 3G, that new 3G version finally got gigabit ports.

Is pfsense a meme? The power consumption on running an old computer as a router must be ridiculous.

>>60770481
I dont move data on my lan so i dont need gigabit ports.

>>60770685
>Ridiculous
>probably like aroud 5 dollars a year.
I would worry more about the space it takes, and requiring a computer science degree to be able to forward ports.

I have the C7 but it's 5 GHz range sucks massive ass, I can't even use it in my house.

need a router that can deliver 100mbps
doesn't need daily reset
<75$ price

any sugesstion?

>>60771314
A Cisco ISR 3845 will do it

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO3845-Gigabit-Router-15-1-Adv-Enterprise-IOS-1-Year-Warranty-/232354170951?hash=item3619634847:g:wYEAAOSwcgNZLYhy

>>60771402
>>60765101
leave

>>60771414
why

>>60770685
>muh power consumption.
How about considering that /g/ is full of power users and buying a consumer router is the equivalent of buying a consumer prebuilt desktop riddled with bloatware and deficiencies in design?

Why not just use a previous build or if you want something purpose built for the task, a dual LAN fanless mini PC (of which there are dozens of choices under $200 on AliExpress or eBay)

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&SearchText=Dual+LAN+fanless

The point of pfSense is the same as FreeNAS; Why buy a shitty QNAP consumer NAS when you get the freedom of FOSS in FreeNAS and the freedom of choosing your own parts and form factor?

Likewise, pfSense has way richer feature sets and configurations, is absolutely secure, and just a great piece of software that works on all kinds of machines, even shit boxes like Athlons or Atoms with dual cores.

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how big of a meme is this thing

>>60771539
Ruckus is a massive meme, get Ubiquiti.

About the only advantage Ruckus has is it will re-scan the environment and adapt it's channel to the least populated to maximize performance. But this is normally only a concern in very dense environments (office building in the middle of new york city for example)

>>60771539
>>60771628
>get Ubiquiti
This, the Ubiquiti AP HD for $299 uses the same chipset as the Ruckus R720 for $1200.

I'm actually in the middle of buying a router for my household right now! Our house is about 1,400 square feet, so I need something for a lot of devices (about 8-10 at a time) that covers this range that isn't too far above 150 bucks. Sorry for asking to be spoonfed, but does anyone have any recommendations?

>>60771673
And again it is a shitbox which cant even adjust to its RF environment. There is a reason why literally anything enterprise class costs more than Ubiquiti and that is due to the software which makes it worthwhile.

>>60771674
8-10 devices isnt a lot

>>60771674
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
+
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY

Total cost should be about $130.

It can handle up to 50 concurrent users without too much issue.

>>60771718
>And again it is a shitbox which cant even adjust to its RF environment. There is a reason why literally anything enterprise class costs more than Ubiquiti and that is due to the software which makes it worthwhile.
And no one here is wanting enterprise class you fucking autistic cuck, kill yourself and save us all the trouble.

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>>60771757
It was literally in OPs post except he was too retarded to know the correct terminology. Guess what happens when your neighbors come home from work and all start using their wifi. Yours will go to shit. With CleanAir (or whatever other vendors call it) your access points will adapt in real time. $100 for a Aironet 3602 with a .11ac module - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-AIR-CAP3602I-A-K9-Aironet-802-11n-AP-w-AIR-RM3000AC-A-K9-/201943688683?hash=item2f04c825eb:g:CvcAAOSwYvFZMEAS

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I bought this the other day at a yard sale for $5. The owner called it an "internet hard drive". Powers up and runs perfectly fine.

I couldn't find any clear documentation on loading this with DD-WRT or the like. It seems solid enough on stock firmware. I'm just going to disable the wireless and use it as an extension router to a bedroom, linked to the main router through the household CAT5 wall connection.

Anybody have experiences with a Linksys EA6300/EA6400? Does it do its job well on stock, or does it occasionally shit the bed?

>>60771807
This literally isn't an issue unless you live in an apartment building desu.

>>60771825
So basically it is a problem for anyone living in a major city. Enjoy your shitty hardware while you live in a corn field

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>>60771832
lol kay

Yeah Im gonna install openwrt now. Is it possible to set up pay to use hotspots with openwrt? similar to what chilifire can do? Using a w8970 so i think i need to hardmod it to install anyway

in my personal order

pfsense
openwrt
gargoyle
tomato
(shibby ect)
ddwrt

openwrt is really the best consumer trade-off

pfsense is more for autists like myself that use secure cached dns and vps

along with snort and squid

What AP should I get for my pfSense box?

>>60760698
Never unless you buy into trash memes like 4K on your smarthphone
>>60766666
Connect your shitty ISP box to the TP-Link, disable Wifi on the ISP box and connect all the wired computers to the TP-Link
Most ISP boxes will allow you to disable their routing capabilities and work solely as a modem, and use your own for routing and AP/wireless
There should be a guide out there on how to do this with your ISP box
QoS isn't really going to help, it's usually a bitch to set it up on stock firmwares (if it works at all), even then your family might shit on you when their goyim sites load slower, you need faster internet
>>60766719
My router box works as a seedbox, NAS and media server too, so I'm saving energy compared to shit router+computer
It's still nowhere close to 150W, it does like 50W at worst, usually around 20W
>>60768638
100Mbits ethernet it's a massive turn off, but it's probably the cheapest OpenWRT router with decent AP capabilities
I'm thinking about getting one for my folks, it should work much better than my ISP shitbox, and there's nothing hooked with ethernet there anyway

>>60771170
>I have the C7 but it's 5 GHz range sucks massive ass, I can't even use it in my house.

5ghz isn't very good for range in the first place.

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I use this over a simple DSL line. It works perfectly. Sometimes I wonder if there is any better, but I tested my connection performance to different servers while doing different tasks, I always get 86 ping and the same results.

>>60771807
>Guess what happens when your neighbors come home from work and all start using their wifi. Yours will go to shit.

Not for me. I use AC in my apartment and I never have issues on my laptop or phone. All you have to do is set it up properly.

Why does any of this matter when your ISP makes you use their shitbox at the edge anyway?

>>60773533
Yes. What kind of shit home network do you have? I turned my apartment mostly hardwired with an Mikrotik router and a Ubiquiti AC unit. It's gonna last me forever.

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>>60772673
>>60773533
>Why does any of this matter when your ISP makes you use their shitbox at the edge anyway?
Cisco and Juniper have DSL cards for their routers, and Juniper has a DOCSIS 3 cable modem as well. Cisco had a cable modem but it was only DOCSIS 2. The Juniper cable modem is expensive but if you want something you dont have to power cycle constantly it is available.

>>60773659
I have a TP-Link modem from Amazon. Cost me $50. I've never had to power cycle it for nearly 2 years now and I use shitty Comcast.

>>60754337
Such a shame practically no version of ddwrt/openwrt supports hardware accelerated NAT.

>>60773575
Do you have unify controller on your server, or does capsman can control them now? Been out of the loop, just wondering.

>>60773829
Modified asuswrt by padavan have hw-nat support for ac* line, IIRC.

>>60771314
the archer never needs a reset
neither does my wdr4300, and they both have hardware NAT for my gigabit internet

>>60766181
>150 + for home usage
Are you retard? Just use pfsense holy shit

>>60774523
>Are you retard?
Its less than what my ASA 5510 consumes. I'm not sure what my Catalyst 3750E does but it has a 265watt PSU.

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>>60774523
He is. He just likes to post on this thread thinking everyone wants a huge heavy noisy power hungry Cisco box to their HOME and everything else is shit, lmao at this autist thinking he is so much better than the others, its kinda like the arch guy in these poorly drawn comics but in networking at home

>>60775178
>everything else is shit,
There are plenty of other vendors which aren't shit. Ubiquiti and MicroTik are not among them.

>>60774425
>the archer never needs a reset

this. its actually good.

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>>60771852
sup fiber bro

Would an older Cisco 3560 be good as a general lab switch/router?

why would you want a separate modem and router?

>>60777464
Not everyone has a modem dumbass.


not to mention standalone routers tend to be much more powerful.

>>60777486
you can do without a modem? how?

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>>60777512
>you can do without a modem? how?
The only services that still use modems are cable and DSL.

Fiber uses ONTs that provide a coaxial or Ethernet connection directly into a router.


My personal setup is

ONT > ethernet > Router > ethernet > Switch > ethernet > desktop

No modem at all.

>>60768043
Actually I'll settle with the old WRT54G laying around. Won't really need multiple devices on WiFi anyway.

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Anyone know how to fix a problem with my ethernet connection not being identified?

>>60778995
change the cable, and port on the switch/router.

>>60762110
I run the 80D with 1 FortiAP and 2 Asus N66u's running as AP's

>>60754337
I wanted to get a fancy enterprise one, but given that my network is only my PC, a NAS, and my phone, I realized that it's overkill and pointless.

A consumer shitbox Asus N18U doesn't bottleneck my NAS nor my WAN, and it runs tomato as well.

>>60778995
Holy fuck bud. Work your way up the stack.

>>60759389
>>60759232

Is the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite any good or should I go for the regular edition? Could you link a specific device you'd recommend?

>>60778995
>/g/ - Technology

How do convince someone to stop using applel routers

>>60777530
you have 3 device to connect the internet??

>>60779909
The ONT is outside of my house and connects to a fiber optic cable in the ground.

From the ONT an Ethernet cable runs into my house and connects to my Routers WAN port.

From there I run ethernet upstairs to a 1gbps unmanaged network switch, where I then run more ethernet cables to my desktop computer, and my PS4.


The only devices in my house are a Router, and a network switch. The Switch is only so I don't have to run multiple Ethernet cables upstairs from the router, I only have to run 1.

>>60779849
Tell them the last router apple made was based on a draft specification for 802.11ac and we are now using 802.11ac wave 2 which is essentially 3 versions updated from what he has. (assuming he has the latest apple router that is).

>>60779999
>port
Ports are for services, interfaces are for cable.

>>60780822
Fuck off autist, we aren't taking the CCNA/CCNP exams here.

>>60780947
I'm not an autist, you're just wrong and clearly don't work in the field. Don't fuck up my terms.

>>60769345
don't worry. even if it blocks your path, back doors insure you'll get through.

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What's a good wireless AP for a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite?

>>60781079
Severe autism detected

>>60781389
So if someone called a brain a "thinking thingy" you'd have no problem with that?

>>60781346
Ubiquiti AP AC pro or the AP AC LR, or the AP AC HD

>>60781389
>fucks up basic terminology
>gets corrected
>ends up severely butthurt
lmao end yourself

>>60781415
Do you SERIOUSLY think people need to know the difference between a port and an interface? If you're a network operator, yeah you should know, but the laymen? Come the fuck on, who gives a fuck if they call it a port.

what router for ~50-60$ (i'm in eu so it's all more expensive) what i'd like is:
- good wifi signal (2 story house with some land)
- possibly support for 3rd party software
- good set of functions. my current router is supplied by my ISP and it's fucking garbage. no customization at all, 0 tools, doesn't even have QoS settings.

i don't care about speeds since i only have 20mb/s and i doubt i'll ever get more since i live in a shithole.

>>60781423
I do care considering an ports are an important part of networking and there's no reason to confuse to two when different terms exist, stop being a retard.

>>60754464
Do you even know what cradlepoint is?

>>60781458
Motherfucker half of consumer routers out there will even call it a fucking WAN port, you aren't going to change anyone from using that term.

>>60781486
You can continue sounding like a pleb then. I bet you say S-Q-L too.

So, I'm in a situation where my modem/router setup is dead and I'm stuck on DSL with 5mbps until CenturyLink finishes laying down the fiber-optic. Apparently I need a VDSL2 modem, which will be worthless once the fiber optic gets installed later this year. What do I do? I also have a landline plan I'm attached to, as the cellular service in the area sucks. I was thinking of just being an idiot and getting a Netgear AC1900 Nighthawk VDSL/ADSL Modem Router, but I'm sure there's better options that Google isn't revealing to me. Also, my budget is around $150. Any help is appreciated, sorry for asking to be spoonfed.

>>60781499
lol, the world doesn't give a fuck, actual professionals don't give a fuck either.

The only ones who do are pedantic autists who think they're special for being so specific and precise.

>>60781499
I connect fiber to the fiber port of a modem I bridge and connect to my routers wan port,from there I connect my router to a switch. A

>>60781552
I'm literally a network engineer. Tell me more about how I'm wrong about my own field.

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>>60769652
if you get Moto SB6121, open that shit up and put a heat sink on the CPU. I bought one after my ISP sent me a letter saying I would be charged $5 rental fee for the one they provided me and had been using over ten years. that day, I did some research, settled on the 6121 and took the old modem back to brighthouse. I did learn that the moto runs hot, so I put an old chipset heat sink on it.

the firmware for this modem is available on sourceforge, along with its bootloader and some other shit. this modem was also available with hacked firmware, but if your ISP finds out you use it to bypass bandwidth caps, your service will be terminated. also, this modem is SNMP capable, but your ISP will likely not allow you to use that feature. run nmap+vulnscan on your current device, and your replacement.

>>60781573
nigger i NEVER said you were wrong you fucking cucked autistic fuck.

All i'm saying is NORMAL people have NO need to know the difference, and professionals who actually work directly with customers KNOW this, unless you work directly in networking you have no need to care about the difference. Like I fucking said earlier, we aren't taking a Cisco network exam here, this is /g/, further this is specifically about HOME internet connections.


You MIGHT have a point if we were sitting in a networking class at a university and I were describing my network setup, all THIS is however is you being a pedantic prick trying to act superior because you work in the industry.

No one gives a fuck.

is there any non industrial/enterprise router that can handle bittorrent dht? all consumer routers that i have used hang when it has been running for a while. it keeps existing connections open but does not accept any new connections before its restarted.

>>60782481
Pretty much any $100+ router from the past year should have no issue, even with 5TB+ seeding size and hundreds of concurrent peers.

>>60754464
>there is no such thing as business grade
That's literally what SOHO routers are you retard.

>>60783701
read the rest of the post your retard

Is there any advantage to putting another multi-port NIC in a homebuilt router versus buying a larger switch?
I always thought that ASICs inside switches were better at the whole switching task than CPUs.

>>60783807
>I always thought that ASICs inside switches were better at the whole switching task than CPUs.
they are

>>60783861
Then why are people putting a fuck ton of $20 NICs in their home routers rather than sticking with two and using a switch instead?

>>60783900
they're not

>>60783807
Unless you can't get a cheap used switch with the management features you want, you could just use pfSense to implement those features instead through additional NICs.

Might be OK if you happen to already have 2 4-port NICs + 1 onboard NIC, but you want to do some kind of home network solution where you're on your own VLAN (where only you can access your NAS full of porn) and the rest of your family is on their own VLAN, but don't exactly want to drop money on a managed switch when you already have plenty of ports between your NICs and unmanaged switch(es).

That being said, like >>60783861 said, ASICs in routers have better throughput on switching. Whether that would actually make a difference would depend on how complex your internal networking topology. It would certainly be less power efficient though.

>>60783935
People on reddit sure seem to love buying bundles of Realtek NICs and sticking them inside.
I always thought Logan and the redditors were fucking retards for buying more than one cheap switch for a home router, but I was wondering if there was a method to their madness. Glad to see that there isn't.

>>60754867
will it give me cancer?

>>60754549
Meraki 64w + 65w integrated wireless with Cisco devices that support vlan, 802.1x, VPN, cloud management

>>60754337

>tp-link

enjoy your backdoors

>>60770481
Totally getting this one. It better support lede

The version of PF (the firewall) in pfSense is eight years old now now.

No, I don't mean since the initial release, I mean it HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED since then. It's missing eight years of upstream bugfixes and improvements. Dunno how anyone can still recommend this shit.

Use OpenBSD if you can handle the commandline or OpenWRT if you can't.

>>60782481
I don't have any issues with that...

-t Asus RT-N16 from 2009.

>>60784023
Use OpenBSD + FirewallBuilder
It's a pretty decent gui/webui for managing various firewall and routing software (inc. pf)

No outdated pfsense pf, but you still get easy management for brainlets.

>>60781588
Anon, thanks.

In my third world Greece, cable is just rolling out. I bought an SB6121 for 30$ plus shipping as of 2 minutes ago, we don't have the jewery of Comcast and the likes of it here yet but they will start charging for modems, thats for sure.

Having a tried and true device is nice, Motorola themselves have some firmwares but not for the SB6121.

What do you guys do with custom firmwares? I want to see if I can use my router as a NAS.

>>60783951
>drop money
switches are cheap. You can get 48x 1GbE 2x 10GbE Catalyst 3750E's for under $100 and 40x 10GbE Nexus 5020s for $300.

>>60783985
>paying a yearly fee so your equipment doesnt brick itself
>inb4 the free 3 year subscription for watching a webinar

>>60754337
The only true option is to run a pfsense router you build yourself