AMD

I don't think your next check from intel will go through

Intel expects better effort than that, Goldstein.

Why does this shitty bait thread even exist?

All of this could be easily replaced by quality threads.

>>60738596
>>60738599
AMD shills calling me a shill, oh the irony.

same reason why firefox, linux and android exist, even when chrome, windows and iphone clearly are the superior options.

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PLEASE BUY INTEL CORE i9. PLSSSSS

100 Shillings deposited to your accout

If AMD didn't exist, Intel would go full-on anti-consumer and make retarded decisions. They would probably fight and win any legal battles regarding laws against monopolies, and they would lobby hard to maintain their status. Idiots on the consumer end will be happily eating their shit.

>>60738835
>anti-consumer and make retarded decisions.

What is Skylake-X?

>3 different I/O lane configurations
>no ECC
>TIM
>RFID
>$300 RAID unlock dongle
>high end HCC Xeon rebadges end of year/next year

>>60738861
>high end HCC Xeon rebadges end of year/next year
Unholy kek what?

Fuck AMD, bunch of antisemites Islam cocksuckers

>>60738898
ASUS rep mentioned that the 18 core will come next year.
A good quarter or two after threadripper comes.

>>60738835
You retard, they would get broken due to monopoly laws 100%

The best thing that could happen for all consumers is for AMD to die.

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>>60738581 (OP)
To collect your delicious tears you fucking kike shitposter.

>>60739290
That's the only legitimate answer I can think of.

AMD exists so shitposters can pretend it's a good company.

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>>60738624
No need to shill when your product stack objectively reduces Intel to the bentium g4560 and the 7700k.

>>60739233
(You)

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>>60739317
Why are AMD shills so delusional?

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>>60739305
LMAO even the single biggest Intel shill on YouTube made a 15 minute video calling out the failure cascade that is Skylake-X/KabyLake-X

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>>60739343
>Photoshop

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>>60739360
>Photoshop

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>>60739362
>>60739365
>Photoshop

>>60739343
>0.04 seconds faster
wtf i love intel now

>>60739384
It's not only faster, it also costs half as much

It's ridiculous, Ryzen is both slower and more expensive

>>60739362
1600X is slower than a dual core in this bench desu senpai

>>60738581

To protect intel and nvidia from get hit by anti-monopoly laws. AMD provides them with """"""""competition""""""""" technically speaking so they are safe to do as they please.

If AMD would to go under, they would get split up and someone with money would probably buy what was left of AMD and try the business. Best thing that could happen since AMD can't provide competition for shit.

>competitor*s*
can't wait for VIA's new multicore beast desu

>>60739428
Exactly

AMDtards don't even realize they are literally supporting Intel and Nvidia by keeping AMD on life support

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>>60739343
>>60739362
>>60739365
>>60739380
nice cherry picking 2 programs. i can cherry pick 2 video games as well and show you how intel's """"specialty"""" and """"domination"""" in gayming is over.
also my cherry picking is more objective as it shows how newer game are running better on ryzen since they actually take advantage of several cores.

>>60739233

No, they would not. They could easily cite how ARM has taken over the CPU market. ARM is also entering the server industry as we speak... Maybe not x86 but it is still competition and that is what counts.

>>60738581
Claim:
>All of their products are easily replaced by better and cheaper ones from their competitors.

And yet... they aren't. Really makes you think, eh?

Interesting how the roles are reversing. Intel is becoming the budget friendly CPU brand with i3's and i5's that have good gaming performance.

>>60738581

I considered buying intel but AMD fans are so antisemitic that I cannot allow their company to success for moral reasons.

>>60739666
Wut? G4560 is their only good CPU.

>>60739704
That Pentium and 7700k are only Intel choices now, the 7700k not very much if you're running higher resolutions.

>>60739698
*considered buying AMD.

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>>60739498
That's hilarious, here's a benchmark of streaming, something Ryzen is supposed to be great at, running Doom

Oh no, what a surprise

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>>60739698
AMDtard's antisemitism is really odd considering AMD literally puts out communist propaganda in their marketing.

AMDtards are truly braindead, they don't even know what they are supporting.

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>this thread

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>>60739498
>Cherry picking
Ah yes, because picking the most single threaded tasks in the entire Adobe Suite isn't cherry picking.

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>>60739704
>G4560 is their only good CPU.

Why do AMDtards keep pushing this retarded myth.

Intel completely owns the low-end market, trades blows in the mid-range market, and then completely dominates in the high-end.

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>>60739788
>Cost per FPS

>>60739788
Hello Ramesh.

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>>60738581
Yes schlomo, AMD is finished

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>>60739498
>>60739786

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>>60739498
>>60739808

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>Why does a company that sells 6900k performance for half the price exist
Gee, I don't know.

>>60738581
>better and cheaper
what planet are we on, shlomo?

you of all people should know that something being better means you'll part with more shekels to have it

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>>60739788
>>60739800

>>60739759
>what is vulkan
>>60739808
>>60739812
>paying twice the money for 1.8 minutes
>in 1 (one) program
i prefer paying twice less and have better performance like here: >>60739436

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>>60739853
And here

LOL Pajeets call me when AMD can run modern games decently.

I regret instantly buying a discounted Z170 motherboard, because that and buying a 6600k for mid-ground on Skylake fucked me pretty hard.
Should I just sell all my electronics and buy Ryzen 1600 & GTX1070/Vega-equivalent?

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>>60738581
Intel
>Cheaper.
Nvidia
>Cheaper....

>>60739826
Looks like 6950X performance there.

>>60739865
gj on a 6% improvement on another cherry picked list of programs, using TWICE the money. you realize threadripper will cost the same as an i7-6900k?

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>>60740002
The $1,000 Threadripper is going to be a 16-core at 3.5/3.9 with higher single core performance from 2:1 infinity fabric speed and more overclocking potential than an 1800x due to being the b2 stepping.

It is going to utterly dumpster the entire Skylake-X line-up virtually the entirety of Intel's single-socket Xeon range.

Pic related should utterly terrify Intel.

>>60738581
LOL, even Intel's boypocci (AKA Linus) broke down and admitted that kabylake-x is retarded

Threadripper caught Jewtell with their pants down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

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>>60738581
Is this the Dedicated Intel Damage Control shilling thread since the board is full of other threads laughing at them and calling them out on their bullshit?

>>60739016
Other vey

Ryzen was the worse thing since the shoah

>>60739737
>7700k
>good
Not when 1700X exists.

>>60739807
תכבה את זה!

>>60738581
except; not in the budget market where amd mostly provides the most bang for the buck

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>the city of Intel

>>60740098

>64c/128t

Jesus the sort of I/O on that would have to be enormous.

>>60740409
>$2000 Intel 18 core
>slower than 16 core <$1000 AMD
>has no ECC
>tootpaste
>only certified Intel SSDs if you wanna use RAID1 or 5
>RFID


How did Intel fuck up this badly?

>>60740409
>ONE POINT TWO
>N
>E

>P
>O
>I
>N
>T

>T
>W
>O

>GIGAHERTZ
>I
>G
>A
>H
>E
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>>60740409
I wonder if it throttles because of shitty cooler thay had or it's actually TIMs fault

>>60740546

It was probably running closer to 2.7ghz.

>>60740623
Why would a STOCK Xeon Gold throttle? It's not overclocked.

>>60740623
it is got to do with ringbus. when core count rises, it tends to get hot and slow.

>>60740647
There's such a thing as an all core turbo on every Intel chip, it's usually way bigger than its base clock.

>>60740674

If it was running even faster than 2.7ghz it makes that score even more laughable.

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>>60740758
It 120% is, all Xeons(rare exceptions like some Xeon-D's aside) have an all boost turbo.

>>60739759
Now compare the 1800k dumbass.

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>>60738581

>>60739910
It's sad but true

Intel is definitively cheaper in the CPU market, and AMD might have been slightly cheaper in the GPU market if it weren't for miners skyrocketing the prices of their GPUs.

Now if you want to build a budget machine, Intel + Nvidia is a no brainer.

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>>60743139
muh fps per dollar

>>60743139
G4560 is pretty great for price/performance, but AMD R3's and APUs have yet to come out.

>>60743303

The hyber-breaded bentium is the only Intel cpu worth buying until you hit the 7700k. Whether raven ridge can best the pentium is the unknown factor but i'd wager it does simply because 1) we know AMD's exist igpus slaughter anything Intel makes outside of iris pro and 2) we know zen cores are competitive performance wise.

>>60744068
Personally I want to see what an overclocked AMD APU can do, I hope it can clock higher than Ryzen because it's 1 CCX

>>60744088

It won't clock higher - all ryzen chips slam into a 4ghz wall that they basically cannot easily cross without suicide voltages, its a design limitation. If you took any of the R7 chips (preferably the 1800x) and disabled an entire CCX you won't get anything extra and that is a chip that hits just over 4ghz single core turbo out of the box.

Terrorists and Chinks use their AMD gpus to mine fake currency

that's literally all there is to it, they buy AMDshit by the thousands

>>60744128
Firstly I've seen 4.2GHz Ryzens around.
Secondly, desktop APUs are late this year or Q1 2018, which gives them plenty of time for another silicon respin even better than the B2 one threadripper will be, which might boost maximum clocks.
Thirdly, there's obvious process tweaks that can be done to increase Fmax, and then since the AM4 APUs are so late they might actually be on 14nm+ like Ryzen 2 in Q1 will be

>>60740281
can't wait for this jew fuck to get fired

>>60744675
>jew
If only. At least old schlomo Otellini was competent.

>>60738581
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

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>>60738581
>AMD has processors with good performance/price ratio but that are a bit slower than the top intel models which are very expensive and hardly anyway will buy anyway.
>The difference between the intel's top models and the AMD ones is small considering the price difference.
>"lol Are you a poorfag? You need more than what AMD offers. Intel has the bet top processor therefore you should buy intel even if you ain't gonna buy their top models".
>AMD launches Ryzen.
>Top end models beats intel in most tasks while being cheaper.
>More computational power while being a better offer than what intel used to have.
>"lol you don't need more than what intel offers."
>"My crystal ball tells me that programs or games will never use more than 4 cores. Settle for a 4 core cpu."
>"The proof is this specific kind of task (games not prepared to use more than 4 threads for example). Therefore multithreading is a meme."
>"AMD has been hyping their expensive processors that are not that good in games anyway."
>"Buy instead a pentium processor, it performs the same as the expensive Ryzen anyway."
- How does this logic works?.
- Now Intel users hates AMD users because they're richfags?.
- This people basically accepted in those threads that they hyped and recommended Intel's expensive core i7/i5 processors as an argument to not buy amd when a pentium is more than enough for the tasks "that matters" anyway making moot their own initial point?
- Are this people not even aware of the efforts to implement better multithreading in different tasks including videogames?.
How many of you have noticed all this fallacies and backpedalling coming from these people? are we being telemarketed?

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>>60744962
Also
>AMD has processors with noticiabily worse energy efficience but not necessarily bad for the average user.
>"Buy intel, energy efficiency matters. Do you want a housefire? enjoy"
>AMD launches Ryzen.
>Better energy efficience than intel.
>"Buy a core i7, what it matters is clock frecuencies and a bit more FPS in games".
>Energy efficiency now even mentioned in the threads.
So, since when energy efficiency doesn't matter anymore? Is this the pentium 4 era again when people used to think clock frecuencies is a way to compare performance?

>AMD breaks overclocking records.
>"Ryzen is terrible on overclocking."
>It's not mentioned that overclocking 8 threads is not the same as overclocking 4 threads.
>It's not mentioned you can disable cores and overclock only 4 cores.
Are this people forgotting this "details" by mistake? or it's on purpose?.

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>>60744979
Also
>"Look, AMD make this honest mistakes that can be fixed (for example the failed overclock on live or the EFI issues). Ryzen is DOA!."
>Meanwhile they're defending a company (Intel) that has screwed their users over the years, for example milking them with a lot of different incompatible sockets and setting unrealistic prices.
>Meanwhile this people forget that Inteld has been found guilty on using anti competitive tactics like bribing laptop and pc makers, manipulating opinions on social media (by social media i mean any public place where people can chat, including 4chan) with astroturfing tactics, bribing reviewers (see the recent leak), looking at ways to cripple competitiors instead of making better products.
>Meanwhile this people defend a company that clearly just invest the minimum on innovation and that can survive a long time losing money if they want until competitors cannot work anymore.
This people don't grasp the bubble they're creating by thrashtalking and trying to deter people from buying AMD. They'll get cheaper processors from Intel now and if AMD dissapears the prices will rise to the moon.
In what way is this people bennefited by rewarding this kind of behavior from intel? In what way is this people bennefited with a monopoly? Are they people paid by people who invested in Intel to avoid losing as much money as possible?

>>60739772
In a room with 2 rapists I support the person who brings the lube

>>60744639
The AMD apu's are going to be out by back to school time. They figure that's going to be where they make the most of their sales from

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>>60738581

>>60740387
The biggest market for AMD's CPUs are the data centers, and AMD's current 8 core offerings go toe to toe with processors configurations that are $700-$1200.

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>>60745114
not the edit

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>>60739410
It's almost like you can make each CPU brand appear better depending on the test...

>>60744763
Otellini is christian you poojet fuck

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These are hilarious

>>60740493
8 Dimm channels 128 PCI-E lanes 128 Infinity-Fabric lanes.

There's a reason why Epyc is going to have 4000+ pin sockets.

>>60744979
When it comes overclocking AMD's voltage limited, not heat limited. It's the reason why most overclock stop at around 4.0. An 1800x is high enough bend that you can hit 4.1 on it, but going higher than that silicon lottery or going into suicide voltage level.

The overclock records that AMD broke were under liquid nitrogen I believe, if you don't count the liquid nitrogen ones I believe Intel's currently able to overclock better than AMD.

But still liquid nitrogen on an 8 core overclock is still impressive.

On a side note I went from a Phenom II 955 black edition that was in overclocked and a 280x to a 1700 at stock with a 1060, the CPU was replaced because it was only shit and showing its age, the GPU was replaced because the fan on the 280x fucked up and I went through MSI's RMA process, they refuse to give me an AMD GPU so they gave me an Nvidia one. Holy shit my room doesn't get warm even after playing games for a long time. I phenom II and 280x would make this room a sweltering mass even with the air conditioning on. I fully understand how valuable components that respect power are now.

Even with that said though I'd rather of had a 480 your 580 then not the 1060.

>>60744962
There is a good case to be made that video games just can't use more than 4 cores efficiently, not to say they can't use more than 4 cores, but you're never going to see an 8 core double the frames of a 4 core. In that case higher IPC matters more than the more cores, but at the same time more cores means more load-balancing so your game is fucked with less by background processes. It's a hard balance to make, but there is a balance there.

>>60745216
Otellini is the kike among the kikes.

>>60745276
It's 16 channels on dual socket tho

>>60745313
>Otellini's brother, Rev. Msgr. Steven Otellini, is a Roman Catholic priest in the Archdiocese of San Francisco currently serving as pastor of The Church of the Nativity in Menlo Park, California, United States.[9]

clean your designated street with your tongue, poojet

Why can't AMD rekt NVidia like they did Intel?
Why isn't Vega as great a breakthrough as Ryzen?

>>60738581
have you been living under a rock?

>>60748066
>Why can't AMD rekt NVidia like they did Intel?
NVidia hasn't been sitting on their ass for 5 years.
>Why isn't Vega as great a breakthrough as Ryzen?
AMD needed a sure-fire hit, so they put most of their resources into Zen. As a result, Radeon suffered. But hopefully once the money starts rolling in from Epyc and Threadripper, they can fund it a bit more.

>>60748141
if they manage to build a usable mcm'd gpu they'd destroy nvidia harder than they did with zen and intel

>>60748160
Not getting my hopes up on that one.

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>>60748066
Who said vega wont be good?
4096 cores @ 1500mhz with 50% ipc over polaris should cream the shit out of the 1080 ti

in crossfire it ran at 162 fps in the prey demo
2.7 screen tears per image = 162

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>>60748141
AMD saw an opportunity in the market, namely, that Intel's architecture scales like crap and uses a lot of power, so they designed an architecture that would scale well and be very power efficient. Which is exactly what you want in a server. Which also happens to be Intel's biggest market.

>>60748176
>>60748178
>if they manage
>they will manage

pick one

>>60748205
Nobody's buying this armchair analysis no matter how many times you post it.

>>60748205
fuck off retard
they know vega is underwhelming and that's why they pull CF shit again and don't show fps

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>>60748241
That demo was to show threadripper can game and crossfire does with with vega
>>60748226
Better to try and analyze it than sit around spewing how its going to be shit and its not even finished yet. Raja said himself the drivers are not finished yet

>>60748380
I don't think it's going to be shit, but I don't think it's going to BTFO a 1080ti based on shakey frame tearing analysis.

>>60748380
You better fuck of back to /r/amd
Everything until now shows they aren't confident in vega beating 1080ti. I fucking hate imbeciles building hype when there's no hard benchmark results. Serioulsy kill yourself.

>>60748511
1080ti? Lol, it's gonna beat the Titan XP.
You must be utterly fucking clueless about hardware if you think it won't.
Actually, clueless is a understatement, you must be fucking brain damaged if you think 1700MHz Fury X with a boatload of architecture changes won't beat a Titan XP

>>60748511
While that's true, if AMD shows evidence that it's faster than the 1080ti, nVidia will drop the prices just before Vega launch so that they sell more cards and less people buy Vega.

>>60748544
>this is what a clueless amdtard looks like

>>60748544
I'd have to agree, Vega is both AMD's Pascal on the clockspeed side and AMD's Maxwell on the arch side, all wrapped in one generation.
Probably why it's taking so long, among with drivers

>>60748603
That' deflection, you've offered nothing, it's common knowledge the workstation card is already 1600MHz, and those are always clocked lower than gaming cards.

I'm waiting on an actual argument.

>>60748621
I'm waiting on actual benchmarks instead of spewing bullshit and hype like retarded fanboy.

>>60748639
Then wait, I don't have to, I know its performance.
No GPU performance has been easier to predict than Vega, because AMD made it too easy.

Fury X
4096 shaders - 1050MHz

Vega (gaming)
4096 shaders - 1650-1700MHz

You even have a Fury X clocked at 1450MHz in the wild with performance numbers, that already does half the job for you, you literally fail at basic math if you can't figure this out even without architectural changes to Vega, which I admit are much harder to predict than mere clockspeed increases, but it's more than a stable enough baseline.

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PLEASE BUY X299
OH GOD SOMEONE PLEASE BUY IT WE SWEAR WE DIDN'T RUSH IT

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>>60748758
See look, it runs fine!

>>60743139
see
>>60743303

>>60748675
what is the predicted performance based on that information and disregarding arch changes?

>>60748833
Depends on what game you're looking at, but generally slightly over a 1080ti

>>60748863
and that 50% IPC increase figure AMD is claiming is based on fury or polaris (or are they the same), and what would that imply to the performance?

>>60748899
AMD never claimed 50% IPC, that's ridiculous and even I wouldn't believe them on that.
It's more likely gonna be closer to 20%, but as said arch changes are hard to predict, and most of the arch changes here go into requiring less bandwidth and widening the frontend(which is now 3-4 times stronger than the Polaris one), and that is super hard to predict since some games barely touch the frontend (new warhammer)and some live their entire run in it(dishonored)

>>60745182
Thats probably going on in Brian Kranzich's mind every night. Computex really was that reaction of AMD 16 core chips and boards.

>>60748939
Why am I not surprised Bethesda writes junk code again.

>>60748939
well, I must've read it wrong, I swear I've seen somewhere "50% something over polaris" or anything like that, but I don't remember what is was

>>60748985
Probably FP16
But that was 100% over Polaris, not 50%

Anyhow, 50% is crazy, that at 1700MHz would put Nvidia out of commission until whatever comes after Volta, so that's not happening.

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Anyhow, here's the Fury X score at 1450MHz

>>60749010
well, thanks for the clarification anon

>>60749035
That's 15% less than a overclocked 1080ti, it's still missing 250MHz compared to Vega though, which should provide another 15-20% boost.

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>>60748833
238.5% the performance of a RX 480 is what I predict

Look at core scale with the GCN 3.0 cards
AMD fury is twice the cores of R8 380
Fury X is about twice the cores of R9 380x

More cores scale basically 100% in modern API games
Now
Vega will have nearly twice the cores of polaris and be clocked at leas to 1500mhz vs 1120 of the RX 480
Not inlcluding IPC or texture rates this equals to 238% more performance over the RX 480

>>60749089
so this is close by 1080tis perf level?

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>>60749089
Now in games that scale well with crossfire two 580s are as powerful as a 1080 ti
Vega should be ~20% faster than the 1080 ti

>>60749079
>>60749035

Feeling a bit better about Vega now, thanks for this small analysis.

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>>60749113
In firestrike the 580s get a very good score in crossfire but in ultra settings the narrow 256 bus holds the cards back when using crossfire
Vega with 4096 cores vs 2304 of the RX 580 and 25% higher clocks should dominate the 1080 ti
This is not even including the AMD claimed 50% ipc improvement which if true it could be nearly twice as powerful as a 1080

>>60748974
Your expectations are so low that there's no way you'd be surprised that Bethesda only writes gunk

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>>60738596

>>60749113
why does it scale like ass at 1440p?

>>60749135
There's no such thing as 50% IPC improvement, don't be retarded.
And basic performance off xfire scaling is pretty stupid.

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>>60749146
Higher res scaling on crossfire is held back by narrow bus widths
Two cards of compute running a single bus is not ideal same with limited Vram
Crossfire scaling is not the same as adding more cores to a single PCB card
more cores on one card with a wide bus will peforman well

>>60748607
It's mostly drivers. Introducing Primitive Shaders means writing a wrapper into drivers. Which means hundreds of debug workhours.

>>60749168
but why did it scale better at 4k than 1440p on GTA?

>>60749150
What?
No such thing as 50% IPC improvement?

Ryzen is 50%+ over the FX chips...
IPC is not increased performance per core its Instructions per clock/cycle
Its more much work is done per cycle on the core
Low IPC like the old P4 and FX chips tried to make up for their low IPCs by having high clocks

>>60749208
Apples to Oranges.
CPU are not GPU.
50% IPC on something as wide as a GPU is not gonna happen in one generation, GPUs are internally 5-6 times wider than CPUs, you get what I'm getting at?

And in the first place, AMD's GPU IPC was actually bigger than Nvidias, so there's no way there's gonna be such an uplift.

>>60749233
He means increased graphical performance per clock cycle, with beefier frondend and such. Everyone knows dense GCN design deliver much more compute mm^2.

>>60749267
I know what IPC means, but AMD GPU IPC is already high as is, that's the least of their concern and one they won't focus on with Vega that much.

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nvidia always win baby

>>60749297
Besides when they weren't winning.
Hopefully AMD pulls out another Evergreen out of their ass this time.

>>60749294
This. I'm holding out for Vega, and even I'm not retarded enough to think that a 50% IPC gain is even close to on the table.

>>60738581
>!BE/4wes0mE shill thread #11232

Wow that Linus video has put the shills into overdrive

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>>60749297
1.7 woodscrews porkshoulders housefires fuck off Huang.

>>60749315
Hey, they've got the same Pajeet back. But Vega is more R700.
>>60749294
They are not focusing on compute performance, they are making better, non-choking front-end. And HBCC, which is something absolutely gorgeous and actually uses characteristics of HBM2.

>>60749315
poojet only pulls out turds on the designated street and due to constipation the last one is late almost a year

>>60749297
Man how old is Huang now?
>>60749364
Wew lad I almost feed you bought a Fermi back then.

>>60749354
Evergreen wasn't all that different from RV700 though

>>60749376
And Navi will be not so different from Vega. Navi is Vega, that scales, with HBM3.

>>60749391
Nothing stopping AMD from making Navi both architecturally different and scaling, besides money I think.
But I don't think they're chimping out on R&D money.

>>60749421
Money AND time. They should focus on one task at any given time. Vega is about better front-end.

>>60743303
>have yet to come out

This is the same old bullshit I hear from AMD over and over again.

"Just wait, surely AMD will come out with something better than Intel + Nvidia"

It NEVER fucking happens, there's all this hype put out by literal paid AMD shills and then reality hits and everyone is disappointed.

I've been hearing that Frontier Edition Vega is actually 220W, I think this launch should be much more surprising than people think.

>>60749443
You stupid fuck. R3's and APUs are on their roadmap since the beginning. They brought out the high end stuff first for a reason.

>>60749465
You literally didn't refute anything I said.

It's not even out yet and you are predicting it's going to somehow own everything, just like all these paid AMD shills.

>>60749455
GCN is inherently more efficient at optimal clocks and it has tiled binning and larger L2 sooo.

>>60749476
Optimal clocks depends on architecture, Vega's pipeline should be longer than the Fury X one.

>>60749489
Yes, that's why FE hits 1600mhz without breaking a sweat. The one poojeet shown had 8+6 pins. Why did they strap 8+8? Another
>overclockers dream
?

>>60749443
>then reality hits and everyone is disappointed.
Oh really? I guess all those reviews reccomending the Ryzen R5 and R7 were just fake news, paid AMD shills or brainwashed fanboys then.

>>60749475
R3's would kill i3's, but they're already dead because Intel priced the G4560 so cheap.

APUs will be a good option if you want an all-in-one package rather than G4560+discrete GPU, which would end up costing more.

>>60749506
One is a render and the other is a real card, it doesn't matter, the card can and will use more power on something that pushes it to the max, like it's 2:1 FP16 ratio and FP64 if it has any.

>>60749542
Vega10 is probably 1/16 FP64. Big GV100 competitor (Vega20) with 1/2 FP64 is probably Q2 2018.

>>60749565
Those ROCm slides are quite outdated, I wouldn't be surprised if Vega has FP64, there's no Vega 20 on the roadmap either, I wouldn't put trust in them anymore.
AMD could have shifted FP64 to Navi as well.

>>60749590
Considering GloFo is doing gud with 7nm FP64 card is probably shifted to Navi. But damn they need some FP64 GPU. Hawaii is old.

>>60749609
It's still a small market and Intel is trying to give Nvidia a hard time with a combination of Xeon Phi and AVX512, so they can skip it for the time being, it's mostly dick waving and it's not too much driver/framework optimization dependent as the machine learning market.

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Why did they mean by this?

>>60749627
Geometry pipeline, in short what we call the a large part of the frontend is 2 times faster per clock, which manifests as almost 3 times faster at 1600+ MHz over Fiji

>>60749627
It's about removing old GCN bottleneck with geometry engines chocking like crazy, see Fiji.

Wew lads mentions of Vega and no shitposting but actually arch discussion? How in the fuck.

>>60749661
I've actually never seen Nvidia or Intel fans talk about arch on /g/.
How peculiar.

>>60749675
You know the answer to that already.

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>>60749661
intel fags are over in the linus tech tips threads on damage control
>>60749646
Was the bottleneck fixed on polaris? Seems to me like polaris only a sligtly improved version of GCN 3.0 on a smaller fab process. The clock speed improvements came from the fab not the architect design

>>60749626
>Xeon Phi
New generation when? KNL is getting old.

>>60749675
and to see that they think this is comparable with some idiot spouting obvious lies and bait about amd

>>60749699
Yes, Polaris was half-Fiji on 14nm with small tweaks. A stopgap measure.

>>60749699
Vega is 11 polygons per clock, Fiji was 4.
I think Polaris improved the situation over Fiji slightly, but not all that much.
Either way, with Vega their frontend bottleneck is gone, and with Draw Stream Rasterizer and larger L2 caches, they should significantly reduce bandwidth bottlenecks, this is far more important for APUs than Vega, but it benefits Vega by not needing more than 2 HBM stacks.

>>60749757
And considering AMD has exclusive access to ebin 8-hi HBM stacks, they can very well push out their own Titan with 16 gigs of HBM2. And man, that iGPU in RR is gonna be something for laptops.

Dell pls make RR-based XPS13 pls.

>>60749802
Uhh. That's exactly what Frontier Edition is, just more Quadro than Titan, but still.

>>60749954
It's more like the original Titan (cuck card). Nu-Titans are overpriced gaymen toys with shitty blowers.

someone have the corelet chart?

I wish I bought 290x instead of turd780ti.
I fucking wish.

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>>60750403

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>>60750544
>8c/8t

>>60750433
you learn from your mistakes.

>>60750581
I fell for
>Kekler is more efficient
meme. Considering 780ti had narrower memory bus, less memory and static scheduling, Hawaii was actually more efficient.

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>>60750544
That is the dumb version. Well, they're all dumb, but this one is less dumb.

>>60750638
after seeing Thermi, nothing make me believe what Nvidia and its shills said.
biggest mistake of my life.

>>60750661
that's dumber bc excludes 4c/4t from corelets which is just untrue in the currentyear

>>60750708
It's just a convinent way to put most of Intel's lineup in one place. It's more for humor's sake than accuracy.

>>60739759
Show the numbers for gtaV and BF1

for those that havent seen the video, BF1 blows the fuck out of the 7700k playing at 1440p and streaming at 1080p60. the ram numbers for the R7 1700 was at 2666 compared to the 7700k having ram at 3200mhz. I know those numbers would be different now with ryzen being able to go at 3200 on most x370 mobos and with some being able to run some kits now at 3600mhz.

>>60750888
We know that guy posts nothing but cherrypicked benchmarks with zero context. It's what he does. Probably does it for free, too.

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>>60738581
To put Intel in its place.

>>60751016
The fuck is this wojak about?
I get the mask. But why green.
>pepe
But that's clearly just a recolored wojak.

>>60751016
Wait, I got it.
Green with envy.

>>60739879
So, 5 years ago?

Holy fuck the shitflinging never ends.
It's hilarious how Intel really didn't have anything, but all of these threads are too tiring.

Intel will absorb Nvidia with the help of government funding and large banks, and they'll rule over computer hardware again. Hopefully becoming a monopoly by the end of the next decade. AMD needs to die.

Screencap this post.

>>60739362
lol the 7700K beats the 6800K and that fuckstain used this poorly coded peice of shit as a metric for multithreaded workloads.

>>60752561
>Intel will absorb Nvidia
kek. Nvidia is too big for that now. Their hold on the market is unyielding.

>>60739759
>shits about cherrypicking
>uses day 1 benches that everyone agrees that is obsolete now
>tries to shill
>gets btfo
>typical intel shill day

>>60754095
the rumor has it that ibm is trying to buy them along with xilinx and mellanox

>>60739666
i5s? Anon those are obsolete. Pentiums and i3s still relevant. And after r3 launch I don't know about i3s

>>60739759
Runs openGL in DOOM. Nice try. Now post vulkan

>>60754588
>i3
>relevant
Pentium exists.

>>60738624
takes one to know one
fuck off millennial

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>>60751016
>to put intel in its place

Wow they sure are doing a good job.

AMD literally has no chance, they're like the retarded kid that everyone cheers on and gives a consolation prize after they lose the race.

>>60749507
R5 has some merit, but I would take Intel over it 99% of the time due to stability and compatibility.

R7 is a major failure, only the 1700 is even slightly good.

>>60754883
>retarded kid invents x86-64, IMCs, HT-like interconnects, 3 graphics memory types and some other small shit like Mantle

>>60754883
because intel fucked them with illegal manufacturing deals after they kicked their ass with athlon 64 and amd never really recovered

i'm really interested to see what'll happen now that we're back to athlon 64 days of competitive and intel can't pull the same illegal business practices as before

>>60754909
I'm not buying intel because it's inferior.

>>60754883
It's going to be more hilarious when everyone upgrading at this time to the near future will be carrying 6-8 core Skylake-X plus those i7 Coffee Lakes

>>60739879
>muh GAYMS

>>60739343
>Tom's hardware

>>60755006
intel still didn't pay 1.2 billion fine to AMD right? it will be sweet when ryzen mobile hits the market.

>>60755306
No. The kikes is yet to pay the fine.

>>60755306
nah, the golden age of the laptop is over. amd unfortunately missed the boat

they do however have domination over gaming consoles, and ryzen has offered some serious competition. so they'll be alright

>>60755356
>the golden age of laptop if over
What the.

>>60755356
>the golden age of the laptop is over
nope, it is yet to begin.
slick, small yet powerful machines is coming with powerful yet efficient cpus and gpus.

>>60738861
You forgot to add scratch cards that unlock higher frequencies
And I'm not talking about the old Pentium ones, their new cores are set to have scratch cards too

>>60739233
>idk how antitrust works
please please kill yourself

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>>60754909
>I would take Intel over it 99% of the time due to stability and compatibility.
Nice FUD.
>R7 is a major failure, only the 1700 is even slightly good.
Yeah it only compares with the 6900K for half the price. What a failure, huh? Also, they dropped prices on the entire R7 lineup.

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>>60754883
>muh steam survey
Meanwhile in the rest of the industry ..

>>60755141
GAYMURS are going to stick with 4 core 8 thread high clockspeed CPUs, SK-X and i7 Coffee Lake won't be those CPUs.

>>60739233
>The best thing that could happen for all consumers is for AMD to die.
Yes, I agree, because if AMD dies, x86 would also die, which would be better for everyone because x86 is a sick, unhealthy market full of retards that root for the only competition in it to drop dead.