YOU HAVE 37 SECONDS TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DON'T USE FREEBSD >GO

>>60728526
I use macOS, which is the best of BSD and UNIX with a great DE ontop of it.

>>60728526
Linux has better scheduling for handling user interruptions which is better for UI and Desktop.

>>60728526
no netflix

>>60728526
>>60728539
Windows 10 is better.

>>60728559
Not really.

Actual support for my hardware.
Run whatever you want, as long as it isn't m$.

>>60728539
macOS is a completely different system which has some stolen code from FreeBSD.

>>60728526
Because OpenBSD is better and more comfy on the desktop.

A typical FreeBSD developer uses MAC and runs OS X. A typical OpenBSD developer eats his own soup.

>>60728526
Not as user friendly as a lot of Linux distros. I already waste enough time trying to figure linux out.

>>60728566
idc

Protools

why would i use freebsd when gnu linux just works?

>>60728577
comfy, botnet, CIA nigger, meme, Ryzen, Vega

>>60728551
Prove it

I ran it in a VM once.

>>60728526
Because I use Windows Vista.

I don't want to read all the documentation

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>>60728526
GNU and Tux are cuter than bestie :3

Openbsd is better
Cool looking fish

Drivers
Software
Community
Job opportunities
ASLR lol
I'm neither a gay nor a hipster

>>60728526
because bhyve can't even compare to kvm

>>60728833
Oh, I forgot docker.

>>60728866
And systemd.

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>>60728810

>>60728526
I would like my hardware to be supported

>>60728961
not to mention systemd

>>60728942
lel

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>>60728810
Puffy is cuter than both

>>60728526
no games

>>60728526

>go to freebsd website
>try to download ISO
>can't find after 30 minute
>then find 200000 different installers

>>60728526
No ASLR

i do op!

i just wish openbsd had jails and zfs

T_T

>>60728526
Very old pf and ipfw is shit

>>60728526

I stand on the shoulders of penguin riding some weird wildebeast

why would I get out of my buttgroove?

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>>60728995
hes too smug

>>60729109
you are a dipshit

>>60728526
i cant play nier automata

>>60728559

>win10
>not server 2016

kys

>>60729651
>denuvo

>>60728526
Less software

>>60728526
Because it somehow manages to be shitter than lolcucks

>>60729721
what software do you need that it doesn't have?

>>60728551

means jack shit when userspace devs don't use it correctly

>>60729735

EDA tools

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Can you watch anime on BSD?

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>>60728526
>install Linux
>just works

>install FreeBSD
>okay let's
>autistic screeching
>how do I
>autistic screeching
>fuck you, let me
>autistic screeching
>I'll j
>autistic screeching

>>60728526
BSD LICENSE IS FOR

C U C K S
U
C
K
S

>>60729763
You can watch anime on almost literally any device manufactured after the year 2000.

>>60729842
dishwasher anime when

>>60729842
But can you run FreeBSD on it?

>>60729865
Honestly? I can't imagine it's that far off.

>>60729874
In theory, yes. There aren't going to be easy to download and use ISOs for you though.

>>60728526
Because CentOS is better

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I prefer license ecosystem that actually promotes freedom

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>>60729882
> In theory, yes.
Nah, look at the list and compare it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux-supported_computer_architectures .

Because OpenBSD is the best *bsd.

None of the potential benefits make enough of a difference to me to be worth the extra work.

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>>60728995

>>60728526
My hardware was made in the last 5 years.

>>60729913
I thought this whole Internet of Things bs was mostly products that relied on the ARM Architecture though? It doesn't matter how many architectures Linux or FreeBSD support, it matters the percent of devices the ones they do support cover.

(And for all I know, for FreeBSD it isn't much, but if someone wants to do all the work and explain it for me that's fine by me.)

>>60729913
and compare this to the amount netbsd supports...

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>>60729963
It's still less than Linux, most of it is some extremely outdated shit like Sun2 or fucking VAX, and it looks like doesn't even support AArch64. "netbsd support a lot of platforms" is a stale meme from the late 90s.

>>60730018
It's more than Linux. The Wiki page is listed by machine, not by CPU type, imbecile.

>>60730040
I can read, m8. It's still more for Linux even if you count each machine separately (57 for NetBSD, 70+ for linux), it's more if you count supported CPU architectures, it's even more if you drop all the platforms production of which stopped before the year 2000, and it's a total disaster for NetBSD if you look for recent platforms like AArch64 (Raspberry 3 for example) and RISC-V.
I mean, what's even the point of arguing here? Platforms themselves only care about Linux for the last 15 years or so, and the NetBSD project doesn't have resources to port it to everything by itself.

>>60728526
i tried it, it made my laptop overheat due to poor power management.

>>60730445
did you try using powerd anon

>>60729900
Throw him into the swimming pool so he can have his yearly bath.

>>60728575
> stolen code from FreeBSD
you can't steal code from them.
Apple uses some of their code according to the BSD license. They contribute some code back.

Actually, it is preferable to have tech companies use code that works and is well tested for years instead of writing their own shit.

tl;dr: BSD > GPL

I refuse to use something with Berkeley in its name.

>>60729109
retard
I'm surprised you found out how to post here

>>60728526
FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree firmware blobs.

Nonfree firmware programs used with Linux, the kernel, are called “blobs”, and that's how we use the term. In BSD parlance, the term “blob” means something else: a nonfree driver. OpenBSD and perhaps other BSD distributions (called “projects” by BSD developers) have the policy of not including those. That is the right policy, as regards drivers; but when the developers say these distributions “contain no blobs”, it causes a misunderstanding. They are not talking about firmware blobs.

No BSD distribution has policies against proprietary binary-only firmware that might be loaded even by free drivers.

>>60728526
No drivers.
No LUKs
No LVM

>>60730597
We release our software in ways that are maximally free. We remove all restrictions on use and distribution, but leave a requirement to be known as the authors. We follow a pattern of free source code distribution that started in the mid-1980's in Berkeley, from before Richard Stallman had any powerful influence which he could use so falsely.

We have a development sub-tree called "ports". Our "ports" tree builds software that is 'found on the net' into packages that OpenBSD users can use more easily. A scaffold of Makefiles and scripts automatically fetch these pieces of software, apply patches as required by OpenBSD, and then build them into nice neat little tarballs. This is provided as a convenience for users. The ports tree is maintained by OpenBSD entirely separately from our main source tree. Some of the software which is fetched and compiled is not as free as we would like, but what can we do. All the other operating system projects make exactly the same decision, and provide these same conveniences to their users.

Richard felt that this "ports tree" of ours made OpenBSD non-free. He came to our mailing lists and lectured to us specifically, yet he said nothing to the many other vendors who do the same; many of them donate to the FSF and perhaps that has something to do with it. Meanwhile, Richard has personally made sure that all the official GNU software -- including Emacs -- compiles and runs on Windows.

That man is a false leader. He is a hypocrite. There may be some people who listen to him. But we don't listen to people who do not follow their own stupid rules.

>>60728526
I PREFER OS X AND OPENBSD

>>60728526
Ports are a poor mans Portage

>>60730846
Running a free program on a non-free system is a good thing though. Promoting non-free programs on a free system is bad as it polutes the freedom.

No support for my integrated graphics, had to use some shitty shit driver that made desktop usage almost okay but not quite.

No support for my nvidia optimus card either.

Because OpenBSD exists.

>>60728526
DragonFly.

>>60728526
> win10

>>60731941
>misuses green text

No drivers
Can't read USBs (or takes way too much effort if possible)
Tries to fork everything from Linux, e.g. docker, wine, etc

>less power efficient
>takes at least x10 more time to install than a sensible linux distro like debian or fedora
>no packages
>>inb4 muh ports
>>takes at least x20 longer to use ports to compile your package from source than installing it with any package manager on linux
>security is dubious compared to linux
>cuck license
>literally no hardware support compared to linux
>>like trackpoints and usb3.0 storage devices from personal experience
>absolute torture to use on slow connections because all of it's thresholds before timing out are way too low for some reason
>screw you if you got a dedicated gpu younger than five years

>>60733395
s/install/install and set up to the point of having X and a DE going

Also the installer is absolute dogshit.

>>60728526
I've used BSD a bit and I actually really love it. Unfortunately it has limited driver support which keeps me from using it as a daily driver

The PS4 and Switch run FreeBSD.

because i'm not poor, and i use payBSD aka macOS™

>>60728995
He looks like a goddamn sassy negro woman
How on earth is that cute?

I might switch when redhat fubars Linux beyond repair with systemd.
As of right now I have muh debian fork with muh sysvinit so I'm good for the next few years.

Also I don't like the license, I'm a sworn stallmanite.

>>60733456
Guess why lol

>>60728526
Because I use macOS

>>60728526
CentOS and OpenBSD are better.

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but I do

>>60733527
Ayyyyy it's basically the same thing but ayyyyyy

>>60731027
they don't fucking promote it you stupid freetard nigger

it's not like you go to openbsd.org and it tells you "HEY INSTALL ORACLE'S JDK" or some shit

>>60733456
>yfw you managed to get your anus ravaged not only by Apple, but also Sony and Nintendo
>yfw PS4 got cracked and the Switch is soon to follow

At least it'll be /comfy/ to install a real OS on the Switch.

1. Way less support than GNU+Linux
2. Licenced under a permissive licence.

>>60728526
I primarily do server programming in Go. FreeBSD currently has an ongoing kernel issue causing the runtime to panic. Once it's resolved I'll move back to FreeBSD from OpenBSD.

https://github.com/golang/go/issues/15658

I have a FreeNAS server running ZFS RaidZ2.

because i have an AMD GPU

>>60735849
>listing a pro as a reason not to use something

>>60728526
Because I use Gentoo Hardened with SELinux.

Yes, I somehow got that to work.

>>60728526
It's less convenient for desktop usage than Windows, less convenient for mobile usage than Android and less convenient for server usage than Linux distros.

I don't know what it is.

Ubuntu is better supported and has more packages available

>>60728559
better at spying on you and being a piece of shit

>>60728526
kernel panic on boot when I try to load wifi driver

>>60728575
Daily reminder that Apple wrote all printer helper functionality that Loonix neets and BSDfags use.

>>60728526
I'm happy with Arch Linux.

>>60737169
How is your broken xorg config doing?

>>60737182
My xorg configuration is fine, why do you ask?
Did it break for some users recently?

>>60737167
CUPS was already 90% done when Apple bought it.

I use openBSD which is much more user friendly

>>60737190
Look at /g/ 's archives since yesterday
And today I also woke up to a tty terminal with an xinit error. Too lazy to grep logs to find out the cause though.

>>60737108
assuming anyone cares about you enough to watch you

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>>60737222

>>60737222
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

Enjoy your botnet OS.

because openbsd is far better

>>60728526
But I do use it on my server and my laptop is dualbooting FreeBSD and Gentoo.

>>60728526
Because it doesn't really work well with laptop which have Nvidia Optimus technology.
I can't even get the intel integrated gpu to work.
Aside from that it is pretty gucci.

>>60728526
Too competent.

>>60728526
No native support for my proprietary wifi drivers firmware.

I don't even need 37 seconds to say that it's shit.

>>60728526
the logo is satanic

I do, posting this from FreeBSD 11 now.

>>60737194

Good defaults designed by experts make for an easy to use, stable and secure system. I find Ubuntu parallels this in many respects. Good integration, testing and a rock-solid schedule.

I like FreeBSD having been a Unix user since the early 90's, and enjoy remembering the lore. But there's a few too many quirks and sharp edges for the larval beard.

>>60728551
You can actually tune it to do just that on FreeBSD, but with default settings, it's true. Btw, it's not difficult, it's two sysctls.

-I'm not a fat turd that shouldn't have been born
-I actually make money, not from welfare
-I don't turn software into a game to try to pretend to be better than everyone else
-The last time I used IRC was 15 years ago
-I actually know how to program instead of just jacking off in a terminal
-I need "software" and "drivers"
-I don't give a shit about pseudo software politics via 30 year old licenses from total fucking losers who genuinely think "all you need" is a 386
-I don't WANT to fit in with loser turbobeards who will just ban me next week for a new reason
Just about does it, now try to tell me why none of the above "really matters"

Yeah this is right. I am not a poor and not a child. I really work with computers, not fuck around with a terminal

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>>60738905
this

I do.

>>60738905
Only one of those is an actual argument, which is less software and driver support. That's fair enough if you need a particular piece of software or hardware that is not supported, and you cannot make it yourself or are not significant enough to convince the vendor to add support.

FreeBSD is a great choice for networking applications. Which is why stuff like Netlix and Whatsapp were built on it.

>>60738905
GNU/Linux cuckolds are sure triggered by the true free OS.

worse industry support than linux

>>60738905
>i actually make money, not from welfare
sure, yet you're here all day long frantically searching for BSD threads

>>60728526
I use guixsd.

>>60741332
>Implying casual users don't instantly shit on BSD threads and the creators aren't attention whoring tools.

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>>60742639
>tripfag
>saying anything about attention whoring
really rotates the ol' neurons

>>60742667
I never shit the board up with inane inflammatory threads so I'm basically automatically better than whoever posts these.

:3

>>60742728
Oh you still exist. Why didn't you stay dead?

I'm sorry, I'm conditioned to use macOS

But I like the idea of it existing

games

>>60728526
Windows 10 Home exists

>>60738905
>I actually know how to program

Prove it.