Is Linux desktop pointless by now?

>>60697826
$0.02 have been deposited into your Microsoft shilling fund.

Thanks for your collaboration.

I tried the Ubuntu subsystems on Windows, and it honestly doesn't work as well as I had expected. Files made on either windows or linux are not immediately visible on the other until after a reboot.

Linux doesn't have the Spyware(tm) if you care about that.
I have a laptop where the wireless driver actually doesnt work well on windows, but dual-booting into linux it works fine.

I wouldn't count it out yet. It still has ext4 which doesn't fragment and can be more lightweight.

>>60697930
>and can be more lightweight.
I meant Linux can be configured to be more lightweight than windows.

Window managers like i3 are also absent on Windows.

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>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear

mfw your banking information gets stolen by 3rd world skiddies due to an exploit of the built in botnet.

>>60697826
>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
You believe
>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
Visual Studio? Really?
>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
Muh gaymen
>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
Linux have open drivers
>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
Microsoft Office, Adobe Software? Where those the best examples?
>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
Then I must be listening to my screaming mom.

Pls offer valid arguments next time

>>60698011
Hueh, that actually happened to a friend not so long ago

>>60698180
Your arguments are not valid, precisely

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>>60697826

>fall for the linux meme
>have to do group project
>have to install a bunch of dependencies for our website to run
>tutorial only in windows
>cant get it to work
>group rolls their eyes
>"anon i thought you said you were good at computers"
>drop the course
>everybody claps
>welcome to trump's america

>>60698192
mitm?

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>>60697826
>nothing to hide nothing to fear
i love this meme

>>60698180
>Pls offer valid arguments next time
Those are valid and you did not disprove them.

>>60698219
If you're hypothetically not able to run a webserver on Linux, please remove yourself from the industry entirely forever.

2/3 of the world including really rather undereducated people who can barely or even not read English run Linux web services.

>>60698273

The good part about closing your eye is not seeing the problems. :D

>>60697826
>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
I'm peeping in your window right now,faggot. That rat you downloaded, made it soooo easy to find you.

There's still a thing that Linux Desktops has and Windows never will have. Freedom. And aldo more efficent with system. Too bad that windows desktop is also dying too and Android is dominating the OS marketshare, kek.

>>60697826
>Are you a pedrophile, criminal or something? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
I'm sure your parents would be ashamed if they found you made a living advertising on 4chan. You have plenty to hide, OP.

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>wen ur data is encrypted by ransomware coming in through nsa backdoors but u can decrypt it using the nsa backdoor in the crypto system

>>60697826
>>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
fair point, but not a strong argument to switch to windows from linux
>>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
linux has a number of those too
>>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
fuck those
>>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
everything works ootb on a modern non-meme linux distro, I don't need to fuck around with drivers
>>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
other than a simple word processor I don't need any of those
>>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
fuck spotify

>So, is there any reason to use Linux as a desktop operating system?
why use Windows if I don't need to?
Linux is more stable and free as free beer and free as in freedom.

>>60697826
>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
I can't even tell you how much I hate Visual studio and software development on Windows.
>no support for the 18 year old C99 standard
>no support for the 6 year old C11 standard
>MSVC thinks that "error: '('" is an acceptable error message
>visual studio just crashes randomly sometimes
>minimum install size is over 7 GiB
>visual studio costs either $3000 per year or $539 per year
>absolutely no portability for applications created
>if you're not using the Visual Studio (tm) git plugin, enjoy trying to handle vcxproj files in git

and if you're using MinGW
>everything is out of date
>manually configuring all of your libraries
>no binary downloads for 64 bit versions of many libraries
>no MinGW support from some libraries that otherwise support Windows

Is there some way that I can just cross compile from Linux onto Windows? I have applications that I don't want to be *nix exclusive, but getting anything to build on Windows is such a mess.

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>60697826(((You)))
>tfw i took the b8 this time
>>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
Dumbed down and will be never full fledged because muh security. At least W10 can have a proper ssh client. :^)
>>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
Painful to setup any development environment on Windows. What if i want to build Android? Oh yeah, OSX or Linux. The choice of patrician developers from students to senior devs.
>>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
Yeah, i sometimes dualboot Windows for gaming. That's great, but then i want to use games, not Windows. For that even W7 is great or better than 10 so...
>>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
Until i want to fire up something on my obscure G5. W10 would be dead on that.
>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
Windows API. Again. You can use compatibility layer or dualboot. Not a big deal for me.
>>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
Botnet and idc

>>60697826
>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear

Spoken like a true cuck

>>60697826
>muh nothing to hide
it's like saying you don't need the freedom of speech because you don't have anything to say. Take your memes elsewehere

>by now

>>60697826
>So, is there any reason to use Linux as a desktop operating system?
it feels like there is none and it's somewhat sad tbqh, corporations won

>>60697826
>Are you a pedrophile, criminal or something? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
Yes actually I'm a lolicon and regularly evade taxes, what's wrong with that?

Hasn't windaids had bash and most of the gnu toolchain available via cygwin anyway? At best it makes a trash system passable for power-usage but is in no way comparable to running a true Unix environment.

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https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

>>60697826
>on anonymous image board
>"""I have nothing to hide"""

>>60697826
>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
What kind of autistic argument is that. Nobody ever said Bash was exclusive to Linux.
>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
Linux also has support by a large majority of development software, with the exception of maybe game development.
>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
Games are for children.
>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
In terms of quality or quantity?
>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
LibreOffice does the same work as MSOffice and doesn't cost a penny. Most people have no use for Adobe tools or most "professional" tools.
>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
Since when? Works just fine on Ubuntu.

>>60697826
Windows update system is still shit
Windows file system is still shit
Windows support for WPA2-Enterprise is still shit
Windows security policy is still shit
Windows kernel scheduler is still shit
Windows desktop environment is still shit
Windows still doesn't have a package manager
Windows still doesn't have ssh
Windows still has telemetry after you disable it
Windows still runs into a problem :( too often
Windows still doesn't have a tilling window manager

And worst off all it is malware: https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html#mission-statement

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>>60699354
>STILL REQUIRES RESTARTS TO DO ANYTHING
It's like we're still using windows fucking 95

The fact that you can get it for free legally

The fact that you can see and change the source code

>>60699473
>and still takes too fucking long to do so

>>60699075
gnus not unix

linux file system makes a lot more sense.

>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear

>>60697826
Fuck off, pajeet wincuck shill

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>>60698400
is this nigga serious

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>>60697826
>>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
Bash has been running on basically every Unix-like system since the 90s. Microsoft is late to the party.
>>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
All I need is GCC and Sublime Text, and both work fine on Debian.
>>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
Buy a console if you want to play shitty games and get buttfucked into purchasing a million DLC packages.
>>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
Is that why you can't use the iGPU of the latest Intel CPUs on Windows 7? Microsoft blocks drivers on purpose for certain hardware. The driver situation for Windows is just a clusterfuck in general. If you plug in a mouse on Windows it takes 10 seconds to install a driver for it. If you plug in the same mouse in a computer running Linux, it works instantly.
>>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
A majority of people here aren't graphic designers for a living. Also, GIMP is nearly the same as Photoshop. If you absolutely need Adobe or Autodesk programs, you can use OS X, because even that's better than Winshit.
>>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
It's trash for normies. If you actually use Shitify you should kill yourself.
>So, is there any reason to use Linux as a desktop operating system?
It doesn't have ads in the file manager or menus.
>>Hurrr Durrr Linux doesn't spy on me
That alone is a reason to not use Wintrash.
>Are you a pedrophile, criminal or something?
Nope.
>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
Post pictures of your credit card, driver's license, and post the usernames and passwords to all of your accounts. What are you hiding?

>>60700977
Internally Windows uses a similar single root approach. And similarly you can mount drives as folders.

Quick question, can I put my laptop to sleep while in liveCD (installing gentoo) I have to wake up early tomorrow though. How ;-;

>>60698694
>it's like saying you don't need the freedom of speech because you don't have anything to say
Yes, its exactly like saying that, but that isnt a refutation, just an extension of the argument.

>>60700906

Neither is microshit windaids.

>>60703170
>Unix-like system
>Debian
>Buy a console
>you can use OS X
Or just use Windows senpai

>>60703382
Jist fucking kill yourself you pathetic fedora reddit fuck

>>60697826
>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
I don't even use bash, and no, the reason to use Linux isn't because of bash.
>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
Windows has absolutely ZERO of the toolchains
I use for work
>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
The few games I play are on Steam for Linux too, so meh.
>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
Incorrect.
>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
I use none of these
>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
The client still works so meh.

>>60697826
can I remove the DE?

>>60698180
>Microsoft Office, Adobe Software? Where those the best examples?
His examples are shit. He should have mentioned professional CAD software like Solid Works or AutoCAD. Shit that real pros use and will NEVER make it to Linux

>>60697826
>Hurrr Durrr Linux doesn't spy on me
Windows doesn't spy on you either.
Admit it you cucks, Microsoft doesn't give a shit that one of its billions of Windows users browses 4chans and masturbates to chinese cartoons.

Besides. if they released all their users' data (which again, would result in millions of lawsuits, and besides, they don't even collect your actual "muh browser and sekrits!1eleven!" data) why would they give a fuck about you?

I'm sick of these "act shady cuz EVERYBODY IS OUT FOR ME" guys.
Your not cool cause you installed Linux with the console and run TOR or some other botnet to further your own criminal activities.

>>60698219
>web
>tutorial only in windows
>making up stories

The professional software argument always annoys me. Obviously use cases differ but I can't imagine people on /g/ requiring everyday use of professional video editing software.

Google docs has pretty much replaced word and powerpoint, though there may be a case for still needing excel (still, gnumeric or calc should be sufficient for most).

Apparently everyone is a professional image editor nowadays that requires photoshop? I didn't use it when I was on windows and I sure don't miss it now. I needed to make a logo a couple of months ago so I installed inkscape and was done with it.

>>60699354
>Windows kernel scheduler is still shit
prove it
>Windows still doesn't have ssh
just like on linux, you can install that functionality

>>60703170
>Post pictures of your credit card, driver's license, and post the usernames and passwords to all of your accounts.

This is not a counterargument. Those things are not being spyed upon.

>>60697826
>downgrade to Windows
no thanks

>>60707374
this, also LibreOffice is a more than adequate replacement for most people, unless you have some bizarrely obscure and specific use case that requires MS Office.

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>>60697826
>Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools
>"""professional""" tools
gee I wonder who's behind this post?

>>60697826
What's happening? What is all this shitposting?

>>60707684
Windows added a linux compatability layer that can run most linux programs inside windows.
Gameless gnu-males are now screeching autisticcally

god damn i wish there was a proper i3 clone for windows; fuck bug.n and maxto

>Is Linux desktop pointless by now?

Considering how windows 10 has gone full botnet and spies on users and forces upgrades without your consent (see >>60708828) then yes, there is a huge point to the Linux desktop being here.

>>60707888
You can't even edit text files, what's the point?

>>60697826
Go back to the designated shitting street, Pajeet.

>>60697826
1.Bash was never an exlusive. Even before wsl you had programs like cygwin. It's not even bad that it happened, it actually made windows tolerable
2.and it's a pain in the ass to find a good IDEs and the libraries on windows which is why including a package manager in wsl was a good idea
3. That is not window's achievement
4. That is not window's achievement
On the other hand drivers on linux are linux's achievement. And drivers are much better on linux i can plug a fucking silicon graphics GPU in there and it will work.
Try installing windows on a hard drive and then move it to another machine, surprise it won't boot. Try doing the same thing on ubuntu ,it works(source: i changed my motherboard and cpu and had to reinstall windows)
5. Ms Office died after 2007(and it works perfectly under wine), adobe software is filled with ram leaks

Linux has: Davinci14 ,blender,kdenlive,openshot,PiTiVi,opensubmerve(pixar-made thing),lightworks,gimp,darktable,krita,gimp,audacity,ardour,OBS
6. It does and we open alternatives based on the spotify api that work better just in case shit happens.
Also stop listening to low quality music from spotify use a private torrent provider FFS.

>>60707599
So the Microphone and Camera of you PC and Smartphone automatically turn off once any of these Informatioms start being recorded?
Let's face it, most Companies and Governments collect everything they can.
And if you dont believe that your Privacy is at risk then please, post your Full Name and City or your Facebook Account here so we can see for ourselves how little there is to collect about you.

>>60697826
>>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
You do realize CygWin has been around forever?

>ads
>spyware
>being a cuck
WINKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!

>>60707315
>act shady
Yea it's real suspicious to not give some random fucking company information that they are collecting for completely unknown reasons

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>>60697826
>pedrophile

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>>60697826
>nothing to hide nothing to fear
Except I don't have anything to hide but I STILL have reasons to be afraid.
I could be listed as a non compliant and have my machine be sabotaged, or stuffed with a gig of CP.
If you don't think any major first world governments would do that, you're naive.
The jews/illuminati/reptilians/man doesn't want us to do thought police us to control us. They can't do that if they're not in my computer.

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>>60697826

I own a 5 year old laptop and with linux it's smooth as hell. I once thought buying a decent gaymen computer but I decided to buy a better monitor, amp and and some cheap bookshelf speakers and installed linux on my laptop and since it ran so smoothly I never even considered upgrading. Windows was a pain in the ass compared to what I have now. 700€ laptop from 2012 running perfectly with a good monitor, mechanical keyboard and decent audio equipment, feels good man. I don't even like playing video games any more because I don't have patience to play them for more than 15 minutes before stopping and doing something else.

>>60697826
>Windows has bash (the only worthy Linux "exclusive")
As mentioned by others bash has never been exclusive.

>Windows has all the major development tools, inlcuding Visual Studio
Visual studio is one of the major development tools linux doesn't have but it has others like jetbrain's
>Windows has all the games available on Steam and other digital platforms
Fair point but games are not the only reason to choose an OS and the amount of games grew a lot recently to the point that it's a reasonabily good games platform.
>Windows has the best driver support on the market by far
True but i has a lot of other flaws linux don't have. The design of distros like ubuntu are better than windows and to this date the only problematic hardware i've found is hardware that needs a windows-only user space tool like razer's. Also to be fair the hardware support ootb is much better on linux, most haedware even from a live session without touching anything and the few ones that not its drivers can be fetched from a GUI directly available from the OS.
>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
Probably the most valid point but linux has it's own software catalog that includes proprietary professional tools like bricscad or davinci resolve and for most people google docs actually is better than MSO because it's cost-free and you don't need to install anything. The only few areas where i haven't been able to find a professional tool is civil engineering.
>Spotify isn't supporting Linux anymore
It works the last time i tried it so i don't see the point of claiming this.
>So, is there any reason to use Linux as a desktop operating system?
One size don't fit everyone, stop being so egocentric and try by yourself. Even if it's not for you it doesn't mean it's not for other people.

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>>60710800
>Are you a pedrophile, criminal or something? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
Don't get me wrong, your bait was good but you honestly went full retart with this one (and pic related). I'm gonna rely in a simple way: i'm 100 times more willing to forgive an honest mistake or a problem related to the lack of time or resources than something pushed on me on purpose.

Considering this your original question should be done the other way: considering how Microsoft is treating their own customers and that linux in the present can do pretty much the same as windows except for a few areas. Honestly, is there still a reason to keep coping with Microsoft's bullshit unless you're obligated to use windows?

>>60697826
>Windows has Microsoft Office, Adobe Software, and all the professional tools (Linux has Gimp kek)
This pasta is relevant:
Kicad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
Natron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
Blender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
Krita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
Lightworks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
Kdenlive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
Unity3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
Opentoonz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
Godot engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
BricsCAD VS Autocad
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
Bricscad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
Freecad Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
Freecad BIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
Freecad & 3D printing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
Gimp 2.10 features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
How to install photoshop on wine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Mo3GTcOQ4
Digikam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
Pixar Film Production
https://youtu.be/JmH4KYcmHOo
Linux art 1
http://www.sylvia-ritter.com/new-gallery/
Linux art 2
http://www.peppercarrot.com/
Davinci Resolve
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

>>60707313
BRICSCAD > *
Plus most versions of CAD work well on wine

>>60698651
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>60710867
Not OP but,
I gotta use Windows for school and shit, because normies.
That and gaming.
But I can't see myself getting serious with software development on Windows. I'll be hamfisted left and right trying to do what I wanna do independently.

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>>60697826
No OP, the Linux desktop is stronger than ever

>>60697826
>all the major development tools
hilarious
> best driver support
maybe the fastest performance or other metrics that sell hardware.

>>60697826
>>Hurrr Durrr Linux doesn't spy on me
>Are you a pedrophile, criminal or something? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear
Aaaand opinion categorized as worthless trash. Go shill your shitty OS somewhere else. Windows is a world wide joke and has been for years.

Doesn't Linux wine pretty emulate Microsoft programs for you?

>>60697826
>the only worthy Linux "exclusive"
I don't even use Bash on Linux.