/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60686864
>>PG279Q is just a MG279Q that costs twice as much because Gsync-idiot-tax.
I want Gsync tho

>>60686856
>image
How do they clean up the solder once it's delidded?

Just built my new pc so I got some shit left over.

Got a:
i7 4790k
2 old vid cards (760's)
850w PSU that I thought was dead, but I think it's ok, mobo was the problem.
8gb ddr3 ram

So just need a cheap as shit mobo and case and maybe a psu since 850w will be too much.

Any suggestions for case and mobo? Pcpartpicker doesn't even have any 1150 mobos listed, but they still have them on newegg etc.

>>60686990
Disregard that, I'm retard.

>>60686893
>nvidia
>when you could just wait to use two vegas in sli
:^)

>>60687043
I am not poor (when it comes to buy PC components at least). I won a bit of money recently.

Apparently a good RX470 or RX570 that can BIOS flash for close to 30MH/s are selling for $400 on ebay now.

Uggh! I finally decide to start buying my pieces, and I find that SuperBiiz is out of all their Rx 570's, and there's no note for when they expect to get more.
Has this been happening with these GPU's? How long can I expect to wait until I can order one?

>>60687065
Fucking cryptojews fucking with the prices

>>60687080
Read >>60687065 and >>60687086
570/580/470/480 are all out of stock because fucking jews are buying them in bulk to mine cryptocurrency.

>>60687043
>vegas in sli
>Vega
>SLI

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Here's my revised gaming PC build. I went from the Ryzen 7 to a Ryzen 5, and brought down the specs for the GPU, as well as added a higher quality monitor. What do you think?

Old Build: (incase it matters) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KPVBpb)

New Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRnGzM

Please don't let me fuck up lads

>>60687106
I'm pretty new to the whole cryptocurrency concept. So are they scalping the cards to make a profit?

So my monito has a "No signal" error when I hook up my hdmi cable to my newly built pc. I tried hooking it up to the motherboard but I heard AMD stuff doesn't have onboard graphics so no idea. I tried moving the ram, removing the gpu, holding the power button when it's off. Don't know what else to do.

>>60687170
You didn't need to downgrade the GPU if you didn't want to, a 1070 is a solid choice for a 1600 system. It just depends on how much performance you want.

>>60687171
They are scalping cards to mine for new cryptocurrency hoping it will be the next bitcoin and make a profit. Mining bitcoin at this point in time has diminishing returns already. Unless you are running a large scale operation.

>>60687170
Ditch the keyboard/mice and just use whatever you have. If you want, invest in really good mice and keyboard, don't get mid of the road shit. A good keyboard will last you way longer than your current PC or new build will.

>>60687172
Could be any number of issues.
Try different ports and keep trying to reseat things but if that doesnt work you're going to need a working graphics card or another working computer to put your graphics card in to know for sure what's the problem.
If you dont have that get a friend or take it into a shop.

>>60687189
It was just a matter of price, I wanted to stay in the range of $1,200, give or take $100. How much of a difference is a 1070 vs a 1060? Would it be worth saving for?

>>60687170
You don't need the thermal paste, the cooler will have some preapplied that's decent enough unless you've got the 'tism.

You should still go with the 1070 if you're doing 1440p though. The 1060 6GB seems like it's gonna do best at 1080p, for 1440 you'll want something more.

Also don't forget an SSD for your windows install. You only need about 120gb, so you should be able to get one really cheap.

>>60687172
First thing to check.
Is your GPU fan spinning? If it is, that means it is powered. If it is outputting no signal, try another port. If not it is fucked.

>>60687216
>How much of a difference is a 1070 vs a 1060? Would it be worth saving for?
Huge. Yes.

>>60687212
I've been using some standard HP mice and keyboard that came with my HP Pavilion, I figured these would be a decent upgrade, right?

>>60687222
GPU fan spinning means it gets power, but it always means doesn't mean it gets enough to work properly. My R9 280 doesn't work at all if the PCIe power cables aren't connected, but the fans do start spinnin

>>60687238
Keep using what you have till it breaks. No need to waste that money. If you want to upgrade, upgrade to shit that you won't need to ever upgrade again till it breaks aka a good mechanic keyboard and a good mouse. My Filco has been with me for 6 years now and it is still as good as the day I bought it.

I got that powercolor 580 that was just in stock. Are they a good brand?

>>60687255
I get that but I assume even beginner builders know how to plug in all the required cables for the PSU and that should be the first thing they check anyway.

>>60687262
Yes
Their Red Dragon is a very meh of a card though, but their more expensive Red Devil is pretty great

>>60687262
Their cheap cards are get what you pay for tier but their top cards are usually quite good.

>>60687267
Dope I got the red devil

>>60687262
Decent. I swear by Sapphire but if you are in a hurry, Powercolor is fine. Personally I will wait for the Vega to force a price drop.

Would it be worth it to purchase a GTX 970 if I can get one for $100? I'm currently sitting with a 960, and I'm wondering if I should shell out the money for another last gen card.

>>60687288
Building from scratch so I got nothing to hold out on besides a clapped out laptop that's running overwatch rendered at 45% struggling to get 30 fps

>>60687217
>Also don't forget an SSD for your windows install
Can't I just use a boot disk or an external hard drive?
I don't really see why an SSD is needed, unless you mean for it to be used during BIOS.
Sorry if I'm being an idiot, I'm only getting a grasp on this stuff.

>>60687308
Build a PC. Beg for a spare GPU someone has lying around and then wait. Or at least that is what I did before. If you are willing to forgo the price drop then get it now.

>>60687315
It's more of a general speediness thing. Even a cheap SSD makes a windows 10 install fly. They are really, really worth it.

But yeah, the SSD would be your boot disk. So you'd install all your other applications on the larger 2TB HDD that's on your list.

>>60687266
>>60687255
>>60687222
It has enough power. my PSU is way above the required amount of wattage needed. The fans and lights are all spinning.
>>60687215
I'll try using my current PC's GPU.

>>60687323
I already got it.

>>60686856
Gonna be building my first computer soon, no idea what I'm doing. I want to do GPU passthrough, because fuck windows.

So, I need parts that work well/easily with Linux (Debian) and will run games well.

My buddy is selling his old GTX 960 for $100, will that work both for passthrough and with linux? Should I buy it? If I get it, what other graphics card should I get? A 10 series?

What motherboards/processors are good for passthrough setups?

>>60687307
For $100? absolutely.
It'd be worth it for $150.
It's about as good as a 470/570 4GB for 1080p and more preferable to a 1060 3gb

$440 for a 1080??!?!?!

Refurbed but still worth a chance?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487324&ignorebbr=1

>>60687343
Enjoy your card then. It is good.

>>60687342
If the fans and lights are on and you properly powered it (2 PCIE 6/8 pin or whatever your card runs on), then check the output on your other cards.

>>60687361
EVGA 1080 had a huge issue with the PWM temperature. This one properly got returned and refunded for that problem. They fixed it and are selling it as refurbished. It being that cheap probably means it was broken once. It is up to you if you want to risk it or not. Ask if the issues with the temperature has been fixed or not first.

>>60687401
Yea I realized it wasn't that good of a deal. Found this. Comes to $460 after using Jet's 15% off promo. Is Asus good or should I get a Strix if I go that route. Also is it still worth waiting for Vega? Prices seem to be dropping already

https://jet.com/product/detail/30e902ee3645434796a8742848ed7198?jcmp=afl:link:8BacdVP0GFs:414385:9936601696:15&siteID=8BacdVP0GFs-LuBAurv8XEGv9xfoXsx0ag

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfRFnn

How this look guys, was on the other thread but it died, will be using AutoCAD, revit, SketchUp, Adobe Photoshop and illustrator and maybe gaming, want to last through college, don't need 4k , don't need overwatch or modern games, just whatever on steam every now and then, but over all any help is appreciated. What else am I missing or upgrade or change , thanks anons

>>60687456
>>60687401
This look good?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GJEE9BG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>60687086
Hey. At least whoever took PCBGs advice the past 3 months to pair Ryzen with an RX470-RX580 can now sell it for a lot of profit or eth mine themselves. kek.
Feels good being right even if for odd reasons.

>>60687467
Do you have other storage drives already? 250gb will fill fast with all the stuff you mentioned.

>>60687456
>FE
FE cards are shit. They are there so people can remove the shit cooler and install their own custom coolers. If you are using an air cooled system just get the strix.

>Also is it still worth waiting for Vega?
We don't know because AMD is fucking shit and refuses to release information on Vega. We assume that its performance will be around 5-10% of the range of a 1080. The hard part will be waiting for its availability since it will get a launch on 30 July. That means the cards will only be in market in September or October.

>>60687170
That's really solid for a $820 build minus peripherals

>>60687262
>PowerColor
Their high end cards, the Red Devil ones, are fantastic.
Their low end ones like the Red Dragon are pretty ass. Not sure if they're as bad as low end MSI and Gigabyte, though, maybe not. For cheap models I'd always stick with Sapphire usually.

>>60687307
>970
Yeah. Worth it in the $100-$125 range.

>>60687488
>You can sell a 470/570 4GB for GTX 1070 money now
Jesus christ this is out of hand.

>>60687483
Imo you should either get a top of the line flagship card like the 1080ti or just get a middle of the range card and upgrade in a few years. 1080 isn't really value for money at the money unless you want to buy the best GPU you can within a budget.

I'm switching over from an amd fx 9590 to an i7 soon. I'm torn between an i7 7700k and a 6700k. I hear the kaby lakes don't support windows 7. ( Thinking of dual booting for games). Any thing I need to know about Intel before the switch?

I am doing my first PC-Build and have a budget of around 700-800 this is the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VFC83F

Anythig I should change or keep in mind before I buy?

Whats a better budget case, Fractal Define S or NZXT S340?

>>60687582
700-800 USD that is

>>60687568
Mainly for games? Ryzen has better multi core performance but Intel has better single core performance.

>>60687493
No I don't actually, what is the best thing to do for that to get it better, I was reading how some people use sdd for boot and stuff and then use a hdd for storage, or should I scrap that and just get a bigger SSD? Also I keep hearing about the force price drop , should I wait for that for the video card ? Thanks Anon, first time builder here

>>60687593
Yeah, mainly for games.

>>60687584
S340. Although I went with the P400.

>>60687582
Since it on a budget, get dual channel instead of single.
1060 isn't really good. Only get it if you are a team green fanboy or rely heavily on Nvidia shadowplay.
Get an SSD. And then scrap for a HDD around your house.

>>60687608
I would get the 7700k then. The only reason not to is due to the heating issues it has if not then it is superior to the 6700k.

>>60687597
Idk why people spout this meme about SSD for faster boot and hdd for storage.
How fucking often do you JUST reboot your PC?
I like everything loading, saving, etc, faster.
500GB is the minimum SSD size I'd get. 250GB is just OS + 3-4 large games.

Just forget the HDD. Add it later once you fill up that 500GB or 1TB or whatever SSD. Add that $50 you'd spend on a HDD to a larger SSD at least.

I'll never put a HDD in my PC again. I just have them in NAS. They make too much dumb noise and shit.

>>60687568
W7 blocks update to Kaby-Lake / Ryzen but it's still possible to bypass that

W7 Unblock Update Kaby-Lake / Ryzen
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19

Drivers to USB drive:
https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/125921-how-to-add-drivers-manually-to-a-usb-drive-to-install-windows-7-using-a-usb-3-0-port

Going from one CPU brand to the other really is the same thing considering there isn't as much CPU-related software than GPU related ones, so it's pretty much the same shit
Also, what are you going to do with your computer to requires a 7700k / 6700k?

>>60687644
Thanks Anon, I have no idea I was just going by what I was reading, any SSD you would recommend?

>>60687697
Samsung

>>60687617
What should I get instead of 1060 then?

>>60687644
You don't want to fill up your SSD, it smartly splits up the writes among it's cells, but they all have a limited amount.

If you have a small amount of free space left, you'll be reducing the size of your SSD as you rewrite files from games/system.
Still going to take a long while until each cell runs out of writes, but it's a bad idea to prematurely decrease the SSD size. It's better to just have the whole SSD die at one time, by then it'll probably be obsolete anyway.

>>60687739
580/480. If it is overpriced, then just get the 1060 since AMD cards are overpriced all the time.

>>60687170
A gtx 1060 for 1440p?

pants on head retarded son. If you cant nut up and get a 1070 then get the RX-580 from AMD

They are about the same at 1080p but the 580 slaps the 1060's shit at 1440p.

>>60687654
Hmm, how "stable" is that bypassing stuff with kaby lake for windows 7? Also mainly to play games. I've built 3 desktops in my life and 2 were amd, and an Intel for a friend. I've got the funds. But I'll also need a new Mobo and some ddr4 ram now. Any recommendations for those?

>>60687855
>how "stable" is that
Perfectly stable. The block is just a check based on the CPU model so fooling it is just making it think the CPU is not among the blacklisted models

>>60687855
The block is a firmware block rather than a physical hardware block.

>>60687884
Nice, perhaps I will go with the kaby lake. How's the temp on these things? I'll be reusing my Corsair h100i, and that thing kept my fx 9590 nice and cold, strange for how many people say the fx9590 gets super hot. That thing never exceeded 60c on load. And idle is around 17c. So just wondering temp comparison

>>60687938
Why Kaby Lake over Ryzen? Unless it's a PC built exclusively for gaming, a Ryzen chip is generally better

>>60688000
read his original post nig all he wants to do is be performant in gaming.

the biostar is a placeholder until other boards are released

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bfgPWX

When are the new HEDT CPUs from Intel coming out?

I wish I could buy an RGB spire.
Anyone recommend anything other than the Gigabyte B350 mATX board? I hear it has the best sound among the chipset

>>60688000
Now I'm really torn between the two. Does the h100i Intel bracket fit the kaby lake mobos? I hear ryzen doesn't. I hate choosing cpus. It's almost as bad as choosing a name in a game.

>>60688000
He said he wanted to do gaming senpai

>>60688046
>Founder's edition
No. Unless you are doing your own custom liquid cooling loop don't get it.

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Can somebody explain this? If IPC is the same, then why does the older 6900k at a lower clock speed, beat out the 1800x?

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>tfw your computer is starting to show signs of age
She's almost 7. Fuck.

>>60688188
Impossible to know without knowing the benchmark / metric and the system configuration.

>>60688188
What do the numbers mean senpai?

>i7-7700k
>idle = 35
>load = 71 with 79 spikes
Is this good or should I delid? it doesn't go above 80, I think 79 is the max it goes up to.

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>>60688180
draws air out of the case

>>60688216
How about you tell us what cooler you are using

>>60688208
>>60688204
Geekbench 4 Multi-core

>>60688216
This is at 5.1Ghz I forgot to add.
>>60688222
Hello Ncase M1 bro.

>>60688232
Corsair H100i.

>>60688235
but what motherboards? what ram? it all affects the score anon

>>60688235
How about you go find some proper benchmark. Especially for shit that you are using it for? Gaming a lot? Look at games being benchmark with said CPU. Looking at random numbers means nothing.

>>60688245
Well it is still that high, it is time to DELID THIS

>>60688267
Thing is if its running at 4.2 it only gets to like 71 tops, but if its running 5.1 it gets pretty hot. I think I shouldn't even OC it.

>>60688279
Intel. Building housefires since ever

Is there any good power monitor for EU?

Only ones I find are rated for <20amp, and how I figured it is, at 450w, it'll draw 38 amp

>>60688267
Delidding sounds pretty nerve wracking. Can you give me a quick rundown on the process?

Im running my computer with no case fans because of how bs loud the default ones were. so ive got one fan on my cpu cooler (212 evo), my gpus stock cooler and a fanless psu. Shouldnt be an issue right? it doesnt seems to get too hot. I mainly worry about the hdds though since i have a lot of them (4 +1ssd

>>60686982
thats not solder

>>60688429
Oh wait... maybe the volt they're asking for is the outlet voltage?

I guess it's the PSU that converts the 230volt to 12/5.5/3.3v....

>>60688442
-Microsoft bow to Intel
-In contact with aliens
-Possess physic-like Overclock
-Controls the fabraciation industry with an iron but fair fist
-Owns fabraciation and waffee plants globally
-Direct descendants of the ancient CPU
-Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Intelgrad will be be the first city)
-Own 99% of CPU research facilities on Earth
-First designer babies will in all likelihood be Intel babies
-CPU said to have -215 temperature, such temperature on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
-Ancient Indian scriptures tell of CPUs who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
-They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
-You likely have Intelbots inside you right now
-Intel are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Intel bunker in Wilkes land?
-They learned ASM in under a week
-Nation states entrust their waffees with Intel. There’s no waffee in TSMC, GLOBALFOUNDRIES, UMC and SMIC, only Intel
-Intel are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, they are timeless CPUs existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.

>>60688445
it's a Ryzen chip you drongo.

>>60688443
You need at least one fan to draw the hot air out

>>60688260
>>60688246
So there isn't an excuse for the 1800x being that much lower in score even though it's clocked higher?

>>60688495
We don't know what those numbers are based on so we can't tell you what the scores mean.

>>60688495
Ryzen's performance is directly affected by the ram speed.

Whats the best cpu only benchmark? I want to measure temperatures mainly because im about to change my thermal paste.

>>60688510
Prime95

Another delid question.

>@stock 4.2ghz
>31 idle and 55 at 100% load
???

>@4.5 ghz
>pic related
IDK what is your say /g/?

>@5.5
>38 idle 85 100% load
bad obviously

Should I delid if I want to push it further than 5.0? So far I am happy at 4.5ghz atm. I have a 1080p60hz, its already pushing max everything at 144 fps which is pointless for me.

>>60688529
Where is the pic senpai

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>>60688543
Sorry senpai...

Corsair H60i.

Is there a pcbg irc?

>>60688561
If you don't need the overclock, don't overclock. All it does it is reduce your component lifespan potentially as well as increase your electrical bill.

I want to rebuild a secondhand PC because my current PC's PSU fried other components during a storm.

The owner of this PC seems pretty clueless (more so than me at least), and sells the complete setup for a very small and acceptable price.
Why?
Because he claims the computer he's selling is haunted by ghosts or some shit... Just kidding.
He claims that there are many viruses on there and that it's beyond repair.

I wonder if that could really be the case, or that there is still a way to restore the computer to "factory-new-like".

Let's just assume it's as bad as he says, what would be the best thing to do?
Are there certain tricks to restore a computer completely to factory new without leaving any viruses or infected files behind?
Or would it be better to replace certain components just to be sure and safe?

Looking forward to any answers / help.

>>60688579
>Because he claims the computer he's selling is haunted by ghosts
Yeah you don't fuck with this shit man.

>>60688578
If I don't OC the max temp goes down to like 55c in the summer it kinda makes me feel like a z270 board and the water cooler becomes useless. I mean don't you get like that temp with the stock intel cooler?

>>60688579
Reinstall the OS. Fuck every other program on it.
Unless the virus is green blotching on the screen, then it's a dead GPU.

>>60687170
Don't buy headsets, ever...

>>60688605
So you are OC because you already bought stuff to OC with? That is sunk cost fallacy man. Don't do it. OC if you need the OC if not it just a waste.

>>60688620
Okay...

If I don't OC does the water cooling do anything at all? Is 55 degrees at 100% a good temp for i7-7700k?

>>60688602
Don't worry dude I got a team of spiritual card women, shamans and the real and only Ghostbusters behind me.
I think we can handle some digital ghosts

>>60688638
AMD R7 1700x which is the same price and almost 3 times as fast gets a maximum of 50 degrees at max load. Intel used to run cooler but now it runs hotter. Overall there's no reason to get an Intel when Ryzen exists.

What should I upgrade next?
Current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8BBd6

>>60688608
The screen is not green so that's bretty gud.
Would a complete reinstall of the OS already do the trick?
I thought of perhaps replacing the HDD with a new one and perhaps the motherboard for when he actually managed to fuck up as bad as he claims.
Like just to be sure and stuff, but I'll be honest, I'm not an expert on this.

>>60688691
>Would a complete reinstall of the OS already do the trick?
yes
>motherboard
Should be no need. Unless it's a k series chip on a non z type mobo. Meaning you have a chip you can overclock on a board that cant.
>everything else
Up to you.

>>60688711
Good to hear, thanks.
I will make an appointment to pick up the PC then.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bcwq2R

My cheap af htpc build. Thoughts?

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>have to settle down for 1060 because of RX shortages

>>60688685
Maybe get a less shit monitor or a 2x8GB higher frequency ram kit, other than that you're pretty much done with that computer.
If you get a 4K monitor upgrading the GPU in the future could help but there's not really anything that would be worth it now and you might as well wait if you're satisfied with your current performance. a 980ti should handle 1440p well.
If you're not satisfied with performance and it doesn't look like ram speed is causing your issues you basically have to upgrade most of your computer.
New RAM, CPU and mobo, but unless there's something actually faulty with your computer you wouldn't notice much of a difference in gaming at 1080p60

>>60688835
>ssd
That one in particular is actually not much better than a HDD
You want their UV400's.
Or most other SSD's.
>1050
Not sure why you want that for a media server.
Unless you plan to game from it at the couch.
>>60688872
Feelbro. I had to get one because no one sells AMD here. And I've been fucked over by ebay on GPU's before.

How long before 7700k owners need to upgrade?

>>60688872
What's bad about a 1060. Aren't they similar in men than performance? Except that amd doesn't have some telemetry shit AFAIK.

>>60688889
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LCTrBP

Fixed. SSD is mostly just for being able to get to things quickly. Most stuff is going to be pulled from a nas. Also I did have schemes of light gaming, but the cost is pretty high for something I may never use much.

>>60688920
For max gaymen perf? Less than a year.

Celeron G3900 (Skylake 2.9GHz, 2 core), 16GB ram, cheap gigabyte board, Samsung 840 Pro 240 GB, full hd LG IPS, Debian Testing.

Purpose: KDE and kernel dev, shitposting, shopping, emailing.

>>60688941
Looks good to rock-it in it's socket.

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This doesnt seem right.

>>60688971
Looks like it's throttling

Post the best ATX cases, plz

>>60689044
yeah by 600Mhz on some cores. idle runs at 4117mhz. i havent messed with the setting at all

>>60689091
I dont see your problem.
I mean I see your computer problem, I just dont see the problem with your understanding of it.
It's an FX series CPU and you're running prime 95 on it, of course it's not going to handle that unless you've got crazy cooling

>>60688950
why tho?

>>60689131
its not even going to a high temperature before throttling. Its not the best cooling (212 evo) but the ambient temp where i am is 22c and its in an open chassis so airflow isnt restricted

Can someone recommend me the best possible board for my board + RAM for my build (using pre existing parts as shown in my link from an old sort of build that was upgraded bit by bit but I want to upgrade to Ryzen)

I'll be using it for some gaming and Video editing often when I come home from work

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YjQy2R

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>>60688971
You're not wrong. But I don't think mine is right either. Last time I tested it was 40cish.
H100i v2.

>>60689166
im curious to see your wallpaper, could you post it please?

What are some /g/ approved MicroATX cases that aren't insanely expensive? I'm building a small PC out of parts from my old build that are otherwise collecting dust. Would like it to be easily moved as it will function like a console loaded with emulators up to GameCube/PS2 gen. Must house a modular PSU. Any suggestions? LEDs would be cool too for rice points.

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>>60689180
Just a generic paper. Usually have MLP.

>>60689204
Also I'd prefer if it layed horizontally or was cube shaped, and has USB ports in the front.

>>60689205
which pony?

>>60689235
Celestia

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shit guys would it be a good idea to sell my msi rx 480 8gb at a rediculous price to a coin miner and get a 1070? i got a shitty 8320e cpu tho

>>60689235
I usually go for artful pieces than my ponyfu. As images of my ponyfu at wall paper quality is either raunchy as fuck, or I'm getting cucked by Big mac..
Marble pie, if you're wondering.

>>60689244
good choice, top 5 for sure

>>60689255
they get similar performance, as long as you make cash yes do it. That guy loses and you win considering that gpu mining is dead for the main coins and only useful for that one specific coin

>>60688920
Hard to answer that question. If you mean for big AAA games I think we'll have to wait until the next gen of consoles because games are generally based on that. I think we might see some changes due to how Ryzen introduced cheap multicore CPUs though, which is a good thing of course.

t. 7700K owner

>>60688950
>AMD shills believe this
People with a 4790k and a 6700k are still doing more than fine. Hell I'm pretty sure the 2600k owners are as well and it's 4 years old.

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>check newegg for 580s
>only one in stock is some overpriced $400 model

Jesus christ you guys weren't kidding about those miners

>>60689259
what do you see in marble pie? i never watched past s4 so maybe they expanded her character or something.

I don't plan to overclock and I only do gaming. Should I save the money from getting a cooler and a more expensive board and just get a 7700 over 7700k and instead put that money towards a 1070?

>>60689281
>>60689265
>>60689255
mining what?

>>60689294
cryptocurrency

>>60689294
eth. The fucking morons.

>>60689265
>similar performance
i was under the impression that the 1070 was superior by a good margin. has that changed?
>>60689294
ethereum or some meme coin

>>60689311
1070 is superior. 1060 is compared to the 580.

>>60689311
>i was under the impression that the 1070 was superior by a good margin. has that changed?

It has not changed.

>>60689286
nah not much expansion, just a good fan comic.
http://pencilsponyforge.tumblr.com/reading-mode
I've stopped reading it because there's now no end in sigh that he's getting money. Run on made it stale.

>>60689275
If you were still able to, would you return your 7700k to buy that new 8 core model Intel is going to release?

>>60689350
>Those prices.
What the fuck

>>60689287
No, the 7700k comes factory higher clocks. Get a cheap board like the z270-a and try to fit the 1070 in your budget.

Cheapo ~600W PSU?

>>60689364
Will the higher factory clock make a difference in gaming. I calculated and I will save around 80 bucks if I the 7700 over the 7700k. If those Hz don't make a difference in the end, I rather not pay extra.

>>60689378
It's not a small amount. isn't it like 600mhz+ per core? before boost.

>>60689359
as long as you include megahashes in the discriptjon u can jack the price to the moon

>>60689392
I know it is not a small amount but is that amount significant when it comes to gaming. Cause I will be mainly using it for gaming. Cause if it is a 1-5% increase in FPS, I rather save the money.

Hey guys I spilled water on my pc and left it off for a while but when I tried turning it on it made smoke. The P4 connector smells like smoke, nothing on the mobo looks damaged and I can't smell anything anywhere else. I want to know what could be broken about it and what do you think is the best way to test the components? I'd like to salvage ram cpu gpu and psu if possible. I don't think the psu was damaged. I'd like to know what the best way to test these components is without worrying about wasting money on them.

>>60689353
It really depends on the benchmarks and overall feedback it receives. I doubt it's gonna be clocked very high either. Gotta see how the 6c/8t does too.

One of the reasons I got a 7700K is because I emulate a lot. I've been pretty happy with it so far and I don't see it failing to do anything I'm asking it to anytime soon, and anyway I absolutely needed a computer when I bought it and the 7700K was the only choice for me at that time. R7 had just gotten out but were overpriced, and overall I didn't feel like playing beta testers for AMD. With that said I might have went for the 1700X had I gotten the chance to.

Are you looking to make yourself a new computer? If you can wait then wait for the next Intel CPUs and see how they do. I don't recommend the 7700K right now unless you absolutely need a new computer right now, and even then, 1600(x) or 1700(x) might be a smarter choice at the moment.

>>60687170
Solid build, only suggestion would be to pick up a SSD for your OS and frequently accessed programs/files.

>>60689420
It's about 15% weaker in performance.

>>60689432
well I'm on 1st gen i7, so an upgrade would be really really nice.

Streaming is something I'd like to do but I hear that with NVENC there really is no performance hit and just a slight quality per bitrate sacrifice..

The current Ryzen line doesn't appeal to me with the gaming sacrifices, though.. Shit, waiting sucks.

The hardware market is fucked up, what kind of scheme is it to announce products 2-3 weeks before they're on the market and able to be purchased?

>>60689503
I know it is weaker in performance already. I want to know how this difference translate into performance in actual games.

>>60689516
Literally 15% less FPS.

>>60689534
Link to benchmarks?

>>60689513
>The current Ryzen line doesn't appeal to me with the gaming sacrifices, though..
What sacrifices? If you get high frequency RAM to work you get a very good experience, and generally a smoother one than on a 7700K, albeit not as good max FPS. For emulation though the 7700K is still beast because of its high clock.

I don't know about 1440p and 4K on the other hand.

Once again if I were you I'd wait, as much as it sucks. Intel is switching their stance here so waiting might be worth it, if you follow me? Next CPUs aren't going to be another Skylake, they're changing things for good so I believe waiting is your best bet to not have regrets down the road.

>>60687170
Buy 1600x for better OC.

>>60689555
I already bought a 1080ti tho sitting in its box

I'm building an r5 1600 pc, looking to overclock it, which mobo should I get and why?

>>60689616
Any B350 is fine. Get a X370 if you want a high end board, but that would be better for 1700+

>>60689633
So I should just get the cheapest one?

Currently the cheapest one where I live (Bosnia) is ASROCK AB350M-HDV at 90 euroshekels.

>>60689646
Asrock is currently at the head of the game when it comes to motherboards for Ryzen, so just make sure the features have what you need.

>>60689658
It's mainly for gaymen, so a nice OC on r5 1600, some fast ram on QVL and space for r9 290.

>I guess

>>60689678
Why the 290? Is that from a previous build? Or is it cheap as fuck?

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>gonna sell my 480 to a miner for 1070 money then sell the 1070 when vega comes out

Im wanting silence in my next pc, and the 1030 seems to be the only 0db gpu. Are they actually shit? or would it be quietest to do a custom cli for cpu and gpu on a 1600x with a 580 or something? Other silent things include no optical drive and no hdds, a fanless psu and a quite case

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Hey /g/ I am looking for a good pc build for about 1000 euros max (maybe 200 extra) for CPU heavy games like ArmA and maybe Star Citizen in the future.
Can any anon help me? I haven't looked at parts since 2014

>>60689806
GPU's are very quiet now. My fan curve is 98$ at 50c on a MSI 1060 6gb OC edition OC'd to 2070Mhz.
My H100i v2 is louder when it ramps up. And that's only because it's on a FX 8350.

To get any more quiet, you have to go fanless.

>>60689806
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQz3nn

>>60689863
Change that 7200rpm HDD to a 5400rpm if you really want it to be silent.

I could smell something almost like burning plastic coming from my PC. I turned it off and the smell went away so I've left it off for the past 5 hours. I've turned it back on but can't smell anything yet. Any ideas what it could be? I opened the case and nothing looks odd

Which mobo + ram should I pair with this build?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YjQy2R

Used for: some gaming and alot of work via video editing and some photo editing

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>>60686856
A tiny bit of thermal compound has gotten on my CPU because I'm a fat dumbfuck. It's just a little bit. Is it kill? Not in the middle but on the outside, not sure what it is, it's covered in greenish dots or whatever.

>>60689884
Most likely it'd the monitor
That or the thermal pad under the VRM's settling.
You may notice an oily residue coming from there. (left side of CPU heatsink)
That or the lest likely, something going bad. But that's no problem because I'm assuming this is a new PC. Thus warranty.
Open the side of the case, and run a stress test. Something like a GPU bench, and prime 95 at the same time.
Keep an eye out for anything misty.
You may want to unplug the case fans to have more still air.

>>60689884
Oh, and it's not worth babying if it's under warranty. I

>>60689884
My new PS4 smelled like warm plastic for a week

It was really weird

>>60689940
Nope had this PC since 2014. Could it be a fan issue? I can barely hear my fan but then again I never really hear it as its one of those ultra quiet ones

>>60689583
>tfw the GTX 1080ti costs more than the 700 euros PC I'm buying parts for

>>60689985
Possibly. Open the case and look. You may be due for a damn good dusting too. Use canned air.
DO NOT a feather duster or vacuum cleaner. STATIC VERY BAD.

>>60690007
>DO NOT a feather duster or vacuum cleaner. STATIC VERY BAD.
Thanks for this anon, I was planning on using a duster haha

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Does this look ok?

Upgrading my 5 year old build for some casual vidya game playing.

>>60690143
why would anyone buy a 7600

>>60687119
how else would you run two vegas???!?

>>60690143
Buy Ryzen 1600 instead. Intel i5s are not worth it right now.

just bought a 7700k, 960 m.2 ssd, and 16gb ddr4. coming from a 6300 and crucial ssd that's gonna be a hell of an upgrade. still keeping my 270x for the time being though, wish rx580 were in stock

Okay Folks, Here's what I'm working with:

Mom: M5A78L-M LX Plus
CPU: FX-4100
Mem: 16gb DDR3 1600
HDD: 500GB 7200 RPM, Passmark score on it is 450ish
GPU: Some 1gb Radeon HD 6870
PSU: 500w something or other.

Now, my dilemma is basically I can afford to save about $400 over the next two months. I was looking at:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KFg3QV

since the rest can stay and I only have my 40in 1080p 60hz tv.

Basically, I want to play the games I play (I think BDO is probably the most resource intensive) and get at least decent FPS at medium-high. Any advice?

>>60690193
>>60690195
don't listen to these shills

intel+nvidia is still the best

>>60690303
get a g4560 instead of i3, pentiums have ht now or wait for ryzen r3. Get an ssd with the money you save on CPU, even a 128gb one for just the OS and a game or two will make a difference.

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>Still no word on availability of Asus and Acers 4K HDR 144Hz monitors

How fast can I generally run 4 DIMMs of RAM on Z270? Does the RAM matter or the motherboard? Do the timings matter?

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My friend is offering to sell me his r9 290x since he heard about the lack of rx570/rx480 on the market. I plan on having a r5 1600, so will any bottlenecking occur? Should I be wary of any other problems with this card?

>>60689831
fair enough, i was looking at passive cpu coolers but idk about them

>>60689863
ill probs go a little higher spec on the cpu and storage, but do those passive coolers actually work well?

>>60690303
you dont happen to live near a microcenter do you

>>60690361
1) don't buy used GPUs
2) 290x is shit anyway

>>60690361
you realise a 290x is a pretty crap card now days right? your pairing a 2 month old cpu with a 5 year old gpu.

>>60690307
>>60690195
>>60690179
Someone tell me who I should listen to

OK guys the following is what I've got. What's the cheapest way to make this run ARMA3 at something higher than 15FPS

Its circa 2014 & 2015 so my gut feeling is gut the thing and more or less start from scratch. I've overclocked it already, and upgraded it a couple of times so bottlenecks are no doubt everywhere

I used to be good at this, then I had kids and stopped caring so much

CPU: AMD A10 5800K Black Edition 3.8GHz Socket FM2 4MB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor (has integrated GPU crossfired with the one on the mainboard)

Memory: G-Skill 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2133MHz RipjawsX Memory Kit CL11 (11-11-11-30) 1.5V/1.6V

Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55-DS3 A55 Socket FM2 HDMI 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

GPU: Gigabyte HD 6670 2GB GDDR3 1600MHz HDMI DVI D-sub PCI-E Graphics Card

2x 120GB SSD
ATX compatible case with 600W PSU
Usual trimmings

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>>60690413
Ignore the obvious troll

((((((Intel)))))) is a kike company

>>60690432
Silicon is either kike or chink, your choice.

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One of the audio capacitors was loose and popped off after I put in the rx480.

Now it just boots into a black screen. Am I fucked? Motherboard dead?

>>60690413
I'd go for ryzen since it should be far cheaper whole offering similar performance with more cores and more threads. Or try to find reviews online.

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>>60690413
Go to the archive of /g/
And look how recommendations of build have gone.
Before Ryzen it was all intel.
After Ryzen it became all about it after patches and fixes were implemented.
The 7700k is only there to keep the autistic screeching at bay. Mainly 1080p 140hz + systems.
You may have bare witness to the poster known as IMG_XXXX. He spams 720p benches to say that the 7700K is the better CPU. Where as he'll claim that a bench showing ryzen pulling more frames at 1080-4k are GPU bottle necked despite the frame rates being rather staggered between the two systems. That were it really a bottleneck they should pull near the same frames.
He chooses low pixel tests because that's where clock speeds matter.
There's no reasoning with this kind of autism.

>>60690337
A SSD was eventually going to be the plan, but I've operated with a Sata 3.0 GB/s HDD for so long that I wasn't worried about the speed. Honestly, picking the 7100 over the R4 1400 was painful, but it's an 80 dollar price difference that I can't afford.

>>60690378
Nearest is 260 miles sadly.

>>60690463
>That were it really a bottleneck they should pull near the same frames.
Are you genuinely stupid enough to believe that a higher resolution demands more CPU time?
What's wrong with you?

>>60690413
Step 1: What tasks will your CPU run?
Step 2: Check benchmarks
Step 2: Buy the CPU that run those tasks best within your budget

You need lots of cores? Get AMD. You need the best single threaded performance you can get? Get Intel.

As to GPU. Do you care about power consumption/heat/noise? Get Nvidia. Do you want most bang for your buck? Get AMD. Do you want the most powerful GPU, money is no issue? Get Nvidia.

Does my board need crossfire support to do a Linux + Windows VM build?

>>60690480
Explain why the intel system can get 20+ less frames with the same card then.

>>60690447
Return it. If it popped off during installation, it was probably faulty.

>>60690493
I've never seen anything close to what you're talking about, anything even similar. What the fuck are you on about, AMDbot? Where is this? In any scenario when the GPU is the limiting factor, they pull the same frames. As in, 4k. Where the CPU is the determining factor, Intel always pulls ahead.

>>60690399
Yeah... I figured it wouldn't be the greatest idea. Welp, guess I'll just roll with integrated graphics until rx is back in stock.

>>60690413
ignore the intel and amd shills, get a RISC cpu

>>60689801
But why would you sell the 1070 if it's to then get a worse card?

>>60690541
r5 doesn't have an integrated GPU anon

>>60690463
>You may have bare witness to the poster known as IMG_XXXX.
You're the only one ever mentioning this though, you've been trying hard to push some meme on /g/ on top of shilling Ryzen to death. If anything you're the autistic one here, because you're clearly not getting paid for being like this, which means you actually believe, deep down, that acting the way you do benefits you in any way.

>>60690427
bad news everything is outdated to hell except the psu so keep that
other bad news is that arma is an unoptimized shit engine so your gonnna need alot of power to brute-force some frames
a 1600(or intel equivalent) plus a 1060 id say would be minimum

Since AMD took forever to give us Vega or any info on it i took the plunge and decided to take on a offer for a gtx 1080 strix for 590,- dollars. Upgrading from my 290x. How did i do? I hope this will be worth it. Shitload of money, but that's disco.

>>60690516
Lurk moar
>>60690413
See, linked posts. It's an IMG_XXXX get's counter posted thread. Probably screams of GPU bottlenecks in there.
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/60240247/#60243915

>>60690582
vega doesnt look convincing, its comical really. "wait for vega" "wait for vega" yet here we are with nothing. vega didnt perform, but at least it forces novidia to up their game

>>60690582
You'll be happy with your purchase.

>>60690553
im hoping that vega has at least 1080 performance and a decent price but right now im speculating. i might just keep the 1070 since i dont need more than 1080/60

>>60690560
Ah. I see. Well just fucking kill me then.

>>60690590
>Lurk moar
Literally kill yourself. The only person shilling here is you, you autistic disappointment of a son.

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>>60690605

>>60690596
>AMD GPU
>Performant GPU

choose one

>>60690594
I like AMD because i have a FreeSync monitor, they are good at providing patches, and i like competition. But when it takes months upon months to even give us anything, well my patience has ended. Should Vega be better than my upcoming 1080 i will go for it.
>>60690595
I hope i will be. I only have 1080p as well.

>>60690614
my msi 480 handles everything i throw at it just fine for the 269 i paid forit

>>60690599
Just buy some cheap used GPU for like 10$ or whatever.

my new PC has arrived

I have never built a computer myself before. any preferred order of adding the components?

>>60690616
1080 for a 1080p screen seems like an overkill but hey, you're good for years basically.

>>60690616
vega is clearly better than a 1080, the ti is the real question. Its gonna have niche uses because of the 16gb gddr6.

>>60690643
mobo into case, then cpu, then fan then everything else. Just do the powering last so that you can manage the cords

>>60690643
Motherboard, place CPU down and RAM.

>>60690643
PSU first, then plug it into the wall, this way your case will be grounded as you work on it.

>>60690596
I have a 1070 for 1080/60 and BF1 runs ultra only using 50-60% of it. 7700K at only 30-50% CPU usage.

>>60690659
>>60690660
thanks for the quick replies lads

>>60690668
yeah nope

>>60690658
Yeah, though i'll likely go AMD again depending on how big the performance difference between 1080 and vega is. AMD support their cards longer and if Vega is the next 290x then goodbye Nvidia.

>>60690659
It might be better. But when they have waited so long on providing any info on prices, performance, what not then i am sick of waiting. I see a lot of AMD users doing the same thing and i don't think im gonna regret a 1080 for a 1080p monitor anytime soon.

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>>60690668

>>60690643
just watch some youtube video, like this

https://youtu.be/nZUYymbCH1w

>>60690683
for sure, it was essentially vaporware. Plus when you can only match your competitors on a gpu thats been out so long whats the point

Has amd released any new information about them providing a framework for deep learning frameworks for their GPUs? They have mlopen or something like that but I missed their Vega presentation (if it already happened). Did they present new stuff or is it wait™ again?(sick of waiting)

>>60690643
First to last
Your needs and wants
CPU that meets the needs
Storage needs
Motherboard
RAM
GPU
PSU

Then add what you want after you see the total cost and it comes under budget.
Better GPU if gaming No.1 priority
And or CPU (motherboard if needing more ports/overclocking ect)
RAM
PSU to account for additional wattage
Additional storage (can always buy later)

>>60690687
>>60690681
I don't know why you idiots think that is fake advice. Having a grounded case means it'll be impossible to static anything to death.

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I'll be using this for gaming, web browsing, Unity level designing, Blender 3D modelling, torrenting and watching tv shows and movies.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>60690707
>retard can't even link things properly

How do you get rid of your old parts?

>>60690487
Video games, youtube, nothing too CPU heavy

>>60690698
Yeah. But a part of me is sad to do this, as i quite like AMD and i want them to succeed.

>>60690707
>>60690714
Missed that, sorry friendo.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/fWwgcc

>>60690705
I have only touched the case every time I've either messed around in a PC or built stuff. Never had static discharges.

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>>60690728
if youre gonna get cryorig wait for the Cu coolers. they look banging yo

>>60690704
He already has the parts anon.

>>60690734
You've been doing literally nothing if the case wasn't grounded, just fyi.

>>60690640
The fuck? Then I should just buy the r9 290x from my bud if I end up having to buy SOMETHING for graphics in the end. Even if he charges me 100$ it'll still be better than something as awful as a 10$ gpu.

>>60690753
Yeah i mean my PSU was connected to it

>>60690754
the 290x isnt bad other than its power consumption. for 100 bucks id days its a good deal

>>60690744
Checked. Yes, pretty sexy. When they coming out? It'll take me a couple months to save up anyhow so I might do some revising.

>>60690573
Figured, didn't notice for a few years because the thing runs Paradox titles fine!

Think I could get away with the RAM chip? I'm reading that 2133 DDR3 is still viable

>>60690751
oops, my bad. used to "how to select parts". Not put them together.

>>60690734
>>60690755
so you mean you did the thing I said to do first for that very reason?

>>60690762
dude if you update the u youre gonna need ddr4 ram now

>>60690754
For 100$ you can a new GPU better than r9 290x

>>60690764
Yeah, nevermind. Though when we built my friend's computer it wasn't connected to the power supply, and i take the power off when building. Actually i think i might even have taken out the PSU cable each time. Never had issues

>>60690705
dont forget to do it in a vaccum to avoid static from the air and dust particles that could fry tthe pc

>>60690707
why do you feel the need to post shitty youtubers that have nothing to do with your post?

>>60690771
I'm an old man, you'll have to forgive the senility

I'll churn around with the 1600 and see what I can make fit. Was hoping to get away with just a $400 upgrade package... hopelessly nieve

>>60690845
On the Zen platform you'll want high speed RAM, not just simple DDR4, it makes a significant difference in the performance.

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>>60690830
>He replied without rating me build

what are the odds that games are going to start utilizing 6+ cores now that both amd and intel are pushing muh coars?

i'm not sure whether i want an i7 7700k or r7 1700, i'm very much meaning toward the r7 because i do a lot of non-gaymen stuff on my pc (rendering, programming, multitasking)
but it still feels silly to buy a brand new 350€ cpu that's already obsolete (for gaming)

convince me that over time 1700 will slightly close the gap relative to 7700k so i feel better about buying it

>>60690892
Probably likely but you won't be hamstringed by being on 4c/8t because the console generation is ultimately what determines how games are made.

>>60690781
>such as?

>>60690890
Shut up you nazi.

>>60690892
So the i7 is better for games, while the r7 is better at other stuff? Or do I have that backwards?

why cant amd processors use the android sdk emulator? it only works on linux apparantly and not actual oses

>>60690427
Maybe look in YouTube for a build for arma3 if your requirements are that specific.

>>60690892
Some games already do use everything you throw at them - complex, open world games like GTA V need to be heavily multi-threaded because console have 8 core CPUs with weak single threaded performance. That said, most games don't require that much CPU power so they do fine with, like two threads. I wouldn't expect that to change. Games are mostly GPU bound.

I've been playing Nier: Automata lately. I have a g4560, low end, dual core, 50$ CPU. Guess what, CPU use in that game sits constantly at below 50%.

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>>60690930
Sup bruh. You wanna go?

>>60690961
Are you playing it with keyboard+mouse or with a controller? Does it play well on PC?

>>60690920
You can 1050ti for about 100$, it will be about as good as r9.

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>>60690892
I'm interested in the i7 7800X that's coming out, pic related.
But the major hurdle is power consumption. Being an Aussi, that's a problem.
Zen+ is around the corner as well. So it's still not looking good for most of their line up. Unless they by some how they clock very well.
Ryzen was disappointing in that regard. but it's a new arch, so such things weren't unexpected.
I hope that's fixed with Zen+, because whilst I can afford to buy intel. Power prices are a bitch.

>>60690696
>I think I sound professional and interesting if I drag out out the last word in the sentence.

>>60690931
that's correct

i7 7700k has 4c/8t r7 1700 has 8c/16t

the 7700k is built for the best single core effectiveness, most games only use 2-4 cores so it performs significantly better in most gaming (10-15% or so) than the 1700, but the 1700 can be twice as fast in hyperthreaded uses such as rendering or multitasking (streaming while gaming and multiple tabs open etc.)

>>60691000
How many hours a day are you planning to run your CPU 100%? Power bills are a meme when it comes to real world use.

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Bump limit reached.

>>60690993
I play with a controller.

>Does it play well on PC?

The performance could be better and some people have some problems with it but there's a mod that fixes them. Other than that, it plays great.

>>60691000
>Zen+ is around the corner as well.
You mean threadripper? Why would that be fixed with thread ripper?

Why does it even matter, if you're just buying it for the multi core workstation benefit?

>>60691044
I have a GameCube controller with the adapter I use for dolphin etc which works very nicely.

Think it'd work well on Nier? I'm not too worried about the performances otherwise, I got told it'd go well with my rig.

>>60691033
Things have got pretty bad in Aus. I ran my 8350 at 100% for four days straight and got $100+ on my bill for it.
I'd rather the savings. Even without using it too much, there's still a notable cost.
I do hope to run my own server soon, and some mining on the side for funzies.
There's other projects I'd like to do that'll hammer CPU, but I'm still not skilled.
>>60691047
Nah, Thread ripper is more dies of Ryzem AKA Zen. Zen plus was suposidly another 15% ipc and more CXX? tweaks ect.
I could be wrong.

>>60691133
Threadripper is the zen+.

zen 2 will probably not be released for at least another year... They haven't even finished releasing zen 1 yet.
zen 2 is probably gonna have APUs though, if I didn't misunderstand it.

>>60691190
Thanks.
Industry really needs to get their shit together with all this product code bullshit.
I was under the impression that zen 2 would be q1/2 next year. That's a bit of a dampener.
And also though APU's where going to be at computex just gone...

Oh well. It's going to be an interesting shit fling in the upcoming CPU benches either way.

>>60690427
kek, I too have that GPU, how's it been treating you friend?

>>60690870
How fast?

>>60691334
No slower than 3200mhz.

>>60691334
2500Mhz+
More so what you can afford.
Some benches put the difference as much as an additional 15fps between 2300Mhz and 3000Mhz

I fell for the AMD meme which is running strong on the internet.

I bought a Ryzen CPU, but now I have trouble finding a decent non-trash µATX board for it, which is also compatible with my ram
I have read through numerous boards, and pretty much all non-premium boards are not supporting p-state OC, means once overclocked you are stuck at the set voltage.
And then there is the buggy Ryzen Master tool, which barely anyone uses for good reasons.

Going to return the CPU.

>>60691251
So so. I did a budget build with it back in *checks* 2012-2013 shit! OK didn't realise this was a real toaster!

For the money the build was great, the Crossfire combo worked nicely, although I've had the odd cooling issue in recent times. Have had to reapply CPU paste and beef up the fan

Back when I bought it, not much supported crossfire, so in that regard it was bad, but now its pretty standard. Think its on by default now

But it ain't a high tier setup, I did an exercise in FPS per dollar via Toms Hardware... when that was still worth a damn

>>60691348
OK so a AMG 1600 CPU with 8GB of 3200mhz RAM, ideally DDR4. Get away with 4GB of GPU or does it really need to be 8 these days?

>>60691413
not "ideally" ddr4, it HAS to be ddr4. 6gb for gpu is the sweet spot these days.

if you're budgeting 8gb ram will do at first but you want 16 minimum realistically these days as well.

>>60691406
>all non-premium boards are not supporting p-state OC, means once overclocked you are stuck at the set voltage.
14niggerwatts?
>>60691406
>trouble finding a decent non-trash µATX board
Fair enough>>60691406
>Going to return the CPU.
K den.

>>60691238
q1/2 next year is in a year. That's not on the brink of coming out.

>>60691413
same here anon, but I was even dumber, didn't know shit about shit that time

I'm rocking an A8-6600k but with shitty slow ram

>>60691635
>Retrogaming thread
Back in the dark days of 2012 GPU was the real bottleneck, so we all bought the cheapest mainboard we could, stuck an OK quad-core on it and spent as much money as we could on the GPU.

The GPU CPU combo was a nice idea (cheap too) and works for pretty but small games... but for ARMA its dogshit. There are just too many AI machinations per second

ARMA 3 is pretty damn CPU heavy and pushing more work through the CPU was a bad idea, first time I turned it on the CPU went straight over 85°C and popped the whole system off half way through a game. Deep joy. Since then I've squeezed another few hundred mhz from the CPU, but with meh results.

ARMA 3 is the best/shittist game I've played in a while. You look at it funny and it falls over

>>60691810
I'm really wanting to replace my hd 6670, it's bottlenecking my processor too hard on some games

in thehunter: call of the wild, I'm lucky if I get 20~30 fps on 740x480

>>60691005
I fucking hate it so much I want to punch him

>>60691406
>buggy Ryzen Master tool
?
Haven't encountered problem with it

Anyone got a cheap recommendation for a freesync monitor with 75hz+? I'd like to spend around 150 or cheaper if possible.

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>>60692216
imagine how much cooling a waterblock that size would be able to do

>try to find an AMD mobo for my ryzen on amazon
>they all have shit reviews

Why

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>AM4 NH-D15s are back in stock

wew lads
finally

>>60692348
Maybe because AM4 motherboards are shitty in their current state?