/retro/

>>60675596
ITT*
derp

>>60675596
I think you mean ITT

>>60675863
haven't seen this one before... >>60632976

>>60676296
Looking all smart, I bet he has no idea what he just pressed

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16k of RAM

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>>60676435
who's ever gonna need more than that

>>60676515
I recently got myself a IIc, first ever Apple 8-bit machine I have owned.
Monochrome monitor, second floppy drive, manual, etc. It's a nice machine.

>>60676494
What machine is this?

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>>60677572
looks like a Blit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1XXvSaVUQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blit_(computer_terminal)

>>60677634
Neato

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setup an old style bbs on the internet

https://famicoman.com/HackInACan/BBS.html

What happened to the anon who was working on the 4chan bbs client?

>>60634192

I have some kind of fetish for these green phosphor vector displays. I don't know why they look so good to me. They remind me of those awesome aircraft HUDs, not sure if they use the same technology.

I wonder if that kind of minimalistic vector interface could work for modern software. Ace Combat 5, a playstation 2 game, used a vector interface for its menus. I thought it worked really well.

Anyone here know about Multics? Reading about it is almost surreal. This thing had features I didn't even know were possible such as online reconfiguration. You could add and remove hardware to the system without shutting it down.

>>60678451
prepare your dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IztxeoHhoyM

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>>60677906

>>60679179
awww yeahhhh

>>60679382
Reflexively started to cringe at the trash80 keyboard but then was pleasantly surprised

There any reason to have vintage computers outside of vidya? I have an old 5150 and I want to try doing stuff with it.

>>60681040
Get a serial cable and some software and use it as a dumb terminal

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL86aToFIPM

>>60681696
... which direction is the tape going?

>>60681040
Sure? It's a really vague question.

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Are there any sites with big collections screenshots (or I guess for older systems, just photographs that focus on the monitor) from computers just in daily use?

Stuff sort of like this. (Mostly thinking around 90s era, since GUIs cram more on screen, give you desktops and such, but really anything is fine.)

>>60679179
>>60679365
http://www.uniquecodeanddata.co.uk/teletext76/
Online archive of teletext, digitised.

Has some typos, etc, since it used OCR to convert the pages, but fun to explore and find old news.

>>60684132
http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html

>>60683778
idk, I'm just not creative I guess

>>60684323
really the best way is to just surf winworld and fetusware and see if anything interests you

most stuff other than games you'll find for a PC that early are office workhorse shit like 1-2-3, wordperfect, dbase and the like, and it'll still run those fine, though you'd probably want a printer, bridge box or an XTIDE hidden away in it to maximize the utility you can get out of it if you're serious about putting it to work

a database would probably be my most immediate go-to for a dual floppy system since you can make use of it without having to export the data as much, but spreadsheets are great for working out all kinds of problems and you can use word processing software to keep a journal or record other stuff nobody else should see/read but yourself

the other guy's suggestion of using it as a terminal to another system is fine too, obviously not as fun since you wouldn't actually be using the computer for anything beyond running Procomm to connect to it but it would look nice while it did it

also plenty of options for shit like compilers and editors if you want to play with writing simple programs on it, the borland IDEs are pretty nice

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>>60685498
>fetusware
I bet you meant vetusware but damn that made me chuckle

>>60676543
how much did that run you?

>>60685498
I find WinWorld to be better than Vetusware. Doesn't Vetusware have a download cap?

Also, if you can get in, BetaArchive is really good too. It's not just betas, lots of commercial software as well.

>>60685498
I was going to write some C to talk to a Renix ECU via RS232.

>>60686023
they do, but they also sometimes have software that WinWorld doesn't which is why it's sometimes necessary to use both

as far as BA goes I'm just not autistic enough to get access, every time I decide to give it a try I either find absolutely no conversations that interest me enough to warrant posting in or some circlejerking twats that just rub me the wrong way, maybe I could power through it if I had a better idea of what they have to offer though, I need a good source of enterprise(TM) software for NT and various unices in particular to give my workstations some purpose

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>>60686141
that sounds like a pretty cool/creative idea to me and you've got plenty of compiler/editor options to do that, though I think most of the ANSI-compliant options are a little on the heavy side so you might need to find a good mass storage solution to set up with it

do you have a CGA or MDA system?

>>60686224
I was going to use a Toshiba T3100 but I passed it up, slapped myself, went back and it was gone.

>>60686146
BA is fairly easy to get access to. They dropped the minimum post requirement to get FTP access. Now all you have to do is upload something they don't have. Anything they don't have. As long as it's a rip of the original disks, and it's a commercially released piece of software. Here's steps:

>1. Download their portable version of Alcohol 120% (or use your own if you own it).
>2. Rip CDs
>3. Scan CD and any documentation/box (you don't have to scan entire manuals, just the cover and back
>4. RAR it up
>5. Upload to public FTP site

I just uploaded IBM VisualAge C++ for AIX, though it's still getting checked in. They've got AIX, Solaris, etc. StarOffice (SPARC), but not a ton of Unix stuff. That's my jam though, so I'm hoping to help fillout that part of the site.

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>>60686241
shit happens, all you can do is remind yourself that even if it doesn't come up as often, in the end all this shit was made in the millions and it's still new enough that it's lurking out there somewhere

I decided to google the software in the picture I posted and totally forgot to mention that all the copies of PC magazine/infoworld/etc can offer some cool ideas for what you can look around for too, especially the early copies from before the clone takeover that were pretty much exclusively focused on PC accessories and software
https://books.google.com/books?id=V2588uIxmAQC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=true

>>60686292
wonder if they'd be interested in some IBM-branded VisiCalc images, might go try it just for a chance at hoarding some AIX software for an eventual RS/6000 I may or may not purchase in the future

>>60686455
They might. The mod has a link to a list of everything on the server in his signature. So you can see if you're interested in what is there. It looks like they only have 3 uploads of VisiCalc currently. Yours is likely different. Just behave. The FTP mod is a bit cranky.

>>60686455
On the RS/6000 front, I've got a Model 7011. I'd stay away from those, even though they're cheap. Go for a CHRP model. The older MCA based machines can only run AIX, and only 5.1 and below (and the 7011 can't even run that well).

Pro tip: Bull (the French computer maker) has an AIX freeware site up, with binary builds of open source software. They support AIX 4.3.3 and up.

>>60686241
I had this happen with a SGI Octane recently. Had manuals and software install media, even. On eBay. Only went for $300 in the end. Decently under market value for a dual-CPU Octane. Feels bad man.

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>>60686582
The T3100 was $15.

>>60686614
Yeah... that's a shitty one.

>>60686649
It booted straight to DOS 3.2 and only had four lines across the screen. I shouldn't have let that one slip.

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>>60686241
>>60686614
>>60686714

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>>60686501
if I don't have to post to get in I think I'll be good, though it seems you still have to post if you don't want to get automatically pruned, or is that just for accounts that haven't even attempted FTP access either?

>>60686542
desu I've felt kind of averted to CHRP gear simply because I liked the look of earlier systems better, think I might have already asked you about the 250's usefulness as a terminal server a few threads ago

but there's some black 43Ps up right now for about $150-$200ish which seems... okay, so maybe when I have my shit in order I might consider one of those instead

do you know if there are any copies of Catia or some other big-name CAD for AIX or really any Unix out in the wild? if I go for a workstation model it seems that would be the go-to use for it along with software development and text mode email checking, fuck I'd love to just find some of that for Windows at this point

>>60686614
>>60686714
there's really no point in killing yourself over it since it's over and done

if it makes you feel any better I unironically had the chance of acquiring a twin-rack SGI power series similar to pic related for $5 but it would have needed actual restoration work and I was 14 so I had no idea what it actually was at the time

also passed up on a dual 800/4GB AlphaServer ES40 that just needed some new drives because it was so huge I wasn't sure if I'd be able to afford it with by-the-pound rates so I pulled the CPUs and RAM instead (it was straight crusher bound anyway)

should have convinced my dad to let me stuff it in the garage

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This is the guts to a Siemens dot termanal, been Frankensteining this together with two others, used as a controller to a gamma camera

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>>60686916
Another pic

>>60686877
>if I don't have to post to get in I think I'll be good, though it seems you still have to post if you don't want to get automatically pruned, or is that just for accounts that haven't even attempted FTP access either?

Not actually sure. I've posted enough I don't have to worry. I wouldn't see why they'd want to prune people who have gotten FTP access though. Anyone who has contributed uploads is a value to the community.

>I've felt kind of averted to CHRP gear simply because I liked the look of earlier systems better, think

By all means, get the earlier stuff if you prefer it. I do as well, actually. Just not sure a machine that has almost no software available for it was the best choice for my first RS/6000.

>I might have already asked you about the 250's usefulness as a terminal server a few threads ago

You did, though I wasn't the one who answered you. I had gone to bed by then (and to be honest, that what I should be doing currently, hmm...)

>do you know if there are any copies of Catia or some other big-name CAD for AIX or really any Unix out in the wild

On IRIX, I would think so. I know I've seen pictures of people's collections on NekoChan that certainly include that kind of stuff. None on the BA FTP that I'm aware of. Lots of compilers, not much else for UNIX.

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>>60686916
Wish Siemens' UNIX systems were a thing you could find in the US. I'd quite like to have one.

Dat MIPS

>>60686916
>>60686934
feeling a little tired to offer any real discussion on this but it deserves a (You) because it's nice
>>60686961
yeah I figured I would build most of the software I needed like Alpine and other text-mode clients from source but it's probably more trouble than it's worth, the 250 seemed most interesting because it was compact and kind of had that mini-big iron look to it so it seemed like a good candidate to pair with my other IBM gear, but a 43P could do that too I guess and also run a new enough AIX version that I wouldn't have to worry as much about binaries for free packages and could mess with IBM development tools instead of GCC without gimping myself

maybe with BA I can just lurk a little and see if there's any discussions that I feel I can get involved in, I just really can't do non-anonymous communities anymore because this place has really conditioned me to post without thinking and not take anything on the internet seriously

but for now I should also go to bed, it was fun

>>60686989
they definitely have a really nice machine-like design to them, even their low-end shitboxes looked nice

>could mess with IBM development tools instead of GCC without gimping myself

Just so you know VisualAge works on AIX 4.1.5 and up. Supposedly 4.3.3 runs reasonably well on the 250, so that may be doable.

>>60685498
I have a matching printer for the damn thing too lel.

I need to get it over to my new place and check it out first though, just trying to get a feel for what to look into first.

>>60684132
That screenshot gave me "A 'PUTER 4 CRISTMASS"

>>60681073
Why not an ethernet card?

>>60686023
There's no definitive site, you have to bookmark them all because none of them are complete.

>>60685832
200 yuro moneys

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Yesss... 80s hi-end electronics and Colombian cocaine.

>>60686542
The earlier RS/6000 are fine machines, nothing wrong with running old AIX like 3.2 - 5.1, you can still port a lot of software yourself.

>>60686582
>>60686614
Deals like that come and go, it's not really under market value, it's just that you are used to the market being inflated.

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>>60686582
>>60686614
There used to be this guy at my local flea market that had mountains of every kind of vintage computer imaginable, and he was selling them for next to nothing.

Commodore, Apple, IBM, Tandy, and everything in between.

Too bad I was too young to buy much from him.

>>60688520
We all have memories like that.
I would have been hoarding like a fuck if I knew how it would be today, obviously you knew that this shit will be harder to come by in the future but just in my ignorance I thought that I still have time.

>>60688601
NO BEIG.... oh wait

>>60680990
What the things with the orange/red numbers. What are those?

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>>60688626
Really fancy kitchen timers

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>>60688626
nixie tubes

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>>60688622
Beige isn't the only way

>>60688648
That's so sexy, wish it was a MSX 2 system

>>60688657
>all that magic smoke
that's what you get for not recapping

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>>60688670
Muh dik!

>>60688759
>automatic record player
Cool

>>60688814
It is, it's also comfy as fuck.

>>60679382
That vector axedude has some sick dance moves

>>60688749
>that face
was the Tandy 1000 really such a bad computer?

>>60688642
Thank you anon, here is a (you) for your troubles.

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post qt computers

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>>60689892
k

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>>60688682

Nice phones, I've got two.

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>>60689948
1) Nice.
2) Make us some more pictures of the poster!
3) How's the 4chan BBS client? Still working on it?

>>60689999
Nein nein nein nein!

>>60690037
kek

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Not overly retro, but i picked up this set of cool looking ram today, just for the design

>>60690060
Really fucking cool. DDR is pretty retro anyways nowadays.
Also nice Applel gayboard.

>>60689999
checked

>>60690080
picked up the applel keyboard along with it

i fucking scored today, an i5 optiplex system, 2 Intellimouse mice, a UPS and some other ddr ram with some monster heat spreaders

all for $30 aud, i almost feel bad because it was that cheap

>>60690127
Sweet deal bro, that's some nice stuff

>>60690060
Holy shit I want a kit now for any of my old shitboxes

>>60690060
466? i thought DDR only went up to 400

>>60691873
The memory itself can go higher, it's just that the standard ended with 400 and that's the max what most boards support by default, but with overclocking you can get the full 466 too.

>>60690060
That's some nice double data rate synchronous dynamic random-access memory

>>60691895
oh nice, so these are designed to "overclock" to 466MHz (not technically an overclock if they're made to run at 466MHz)

>>60691895
It's pretty neato, i never knew it went over 400 until today when i got the ram, i think I'll need to find a system that i can put them in because i dont even know if they work

>>60693361
You can always run them at lower speeds too if you don't have a system that can handle them at 466.

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>>60688546
Hoarding ain't easy. I got pic related for free a decade ago. Had to cart it 100s of miles. Put it in a tent on a concrete slab while a garage was built around it. Building a lab inside a shipping container with the correct power hookups right now. Might be able to fire it up within a year (will tear it down to check for problems first).
I bet it doesn't even IPL...
Wish I'd known it was full of lead acid batteries before getting it up that flight of stairs.

>>60693507
Noice!

>Wish I'd known it was full of lead acid batteries before getting it up that flight of stairs.
kek

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>>60694226
this

>>60694986
>Nokia
What kind of computer is this? pics?

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>>60695463
A 386DX system made by Nokia Data, Nokia's computer division of the 80's.

>>60690060
Those are come awesome looking ICs

>>60677572
I think it's the Xerox Alto

>>60696306
No, it's a Blit

I hate how everyone selling old hardware must put "VINTAGE RETRO SUPER RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" into the title of the item...

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>>60696780
how will they be able to sucker in total retards to buy their beat up garbage P4 boxes if they don't?

>>60696962
>Pentium 4
>Windows 98
>DOS
k

Memes are a powerful thing, there was a time when Model M's went for 5 bucks, now they go over a hundred.

>>60696962
WTF is this shit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAXXED-RETRO-Dell-Windows-98-SE-DOS-Computer-Pentium-4-Win98-Win98SE-/301957805064

>DOS can only handle up to 4MB
>Unit is running an Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti 420 AGP graphics card with 32MB dedicated video with the latest ForceWare drivers. This is tremendous power to run any DOS game of the era.

I didn't need to see this shit

I sometimes sell some of my machines I don't need anymore, usually for a nice price, but I actually have gotten shat on (fake buyers, insults, etc) from "professional resellers" who are mad that I don't use their 10x higher prices for the same item

Other times I sell some things, like for example a C64 with two floppy drives, manuals, boxes of floppies, original cables, custom and old PSU, joysticks, PC adapter, extended basic cartridge, reset switch and s-video mod for 100 bucks (I look at other similar sales and take a cheaper price I think won't be a rippoff) and I get comments like "LOL thats way too overpriced, the item you are selling is blah blah blah, for your information blah blah" from some butthurt faggots (reminds me of the GNU/Linux copypasta, probably same kind of autists)

Then when I sold a bunch of PowerMac G4's and G5's, that I got a whole lot or they would have gone to the bin, I was short on time (like literary less then a hour) and they wanted to be sure that the machines are clean, so I ripped out the hard drives and wrecked the drives for them, latter put the machines up for sale because I just didn't want them to go to the garbage pile, like 15 and 20 bucks for my troubles and I still get comments with people lecturing me "You don't have to take out hard drives, there are easy ways to destroy data on them, like blah blah blah"

That's just the tip of the iceberg, the things are so fucked up

>>60696780
Those are literally always the things that sell, a similar item for slightly less without such text in the title won't sell as quick even. It's true.
99% of the market that we call our hobby is just hipsters.

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>>60697489
...but they are actually cereal

>>60697514
I wanna shoot some xenomorphs with automatic turrets now

>>60695596
Played a lot of poker with computer like that at school back inna day

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>>60696962
fuckin' thing's not even an S423 system, at least then it would have been a somewhat high-end oddity
>This was a $3,000 dollar system back in the day!
lmao

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>>60697366
yeah man welcome to the antiques business
where everyone thinks your operation is a glorified garage sale, every price is negotiable, and it's your job to make them even more money on resale while you struggle to rake in a 25 cents an hour on a good day

it's why I laugh at every faggot who yells "sell it on ebay to a hipster XD" in a retro thread, they don't know shit

won't lie though I kind of sympathize with the guys being a little pissed off at the drives being gone as an autist who loves his shit 100% stock as factory configured but they're still retards and I wish you could tell them all to kill themselves, it's still easy to source replacements

>>60697044
>this was my personal system from 2000-2001 (8 sold)
>i850 chipset
So no NMI or DDMA for actual DOS mode audio.

>>60694986
>>60695596
>Gravis Gamepad

My melanin-enriched sibling.

Fucking awful memory management, though.

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Applel anon here, i set up my optiplex and thought I'd share another picture along with this funny heat spreaders on this set of ram

I wish some of you younger guys could have experienced computing of the 80s and 90s. Cozy amber or green monitors, aspiring towards that day when you can get a 16 color CGA monitor (and then seeing every pixel, even slight vertical misalignment between different colors). Knowing what every single file on your hard drive was for because you needed the space. Keeping everything you downloaded on stacks of floppy disks since it took so long to get again. Getting excited to get home from school and check all of the BBSes to see what's been posted or uploaded, and playing your turns on door games. Logging off to check out files you downloaded. Doing everything from DOS, developing terrific typing skills. Having lots of cozy alone time, encouraging you to explore your computer more through programming languages.

I know that I'm just old, so maybe computers excite kids in different ways now with phones and tablets and everything. But they don't excite me anymore. It's just a box that has parts which get swapped so often I don't even remember what they are anymore, all of which serves a broad purpose and rarely leaves me with free time for fun projects.

I don't like being old.

>>60701740
I know the BBS community largely went to warez and such, but where'd they go from there? Did they just grow up and get real jobs?

>>60701822
Binary newsgroup feeds.

t.90s warezkiddie

>>60701822
Internet destroyed them. Not even having internet portals or offering email was enough. They died so quickly in the mid to late 90s that it was like an infection had hit and they just dropped and dropped. Even the holdouts had so few users that they weren't enjoyable to use anymore. Not even warez could save them.

>>60683432
left

>>60688758
nice, today designers are a bunch of fucking flat faggots

>>60690080
>Applel gayboard
>look at me, i`m so funny and edgy deforming the words
fuck you fucking faggot

>>60701822
>>60701868
Usenet is still a thing, or at least it was a couple of years ago.

>>60703361
Fidonet is still a thing too but that doesn't mean there's anything there worth using.

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>>60701740
>Cozy amber or green monitors, aspiring towards that day when you can get a 16 color CGA monitor (and then seeing every pixel, even slight vertical misalignment between different colors). Knowing what every single file on your hard drive was for because you needed the space. Keeping everything you downloaded on stacks of floppy disks since it took so long to get again.
This is exactly why I would never go back, because today I can pick a date and get the absolute top-of-the-line for next to nothing and get all the software, documentation and support I'll ever want for it on the internet.

Back in the "good old days" I would undoubtedly be stuck on some expensive, geriatric 8-bit shitbox with garbage software I'd still have to pay out the ass for because I have no other choice, and I probably would have never developed anywhere near the interest or passion for computing I have gained from the opportunities the modern era has afforded me.

>>60703390
Except you have to pay for internet to be able to do any of that, where even the poorest of poorfags back then just needed a modem and any shitbox they could throw together with scavenged parts and find something to do. I paid practically no money for all of my early computing because my family was poor.

>>60701740
I had this somewhat back before android and iphone were a (huge) thing with TI's z80 and m68000 calculators. I used to walk around with a TI-83+, TI-84+ and a Voyage 200 all stuffed into my cargo shorts. The V200 could compile C onboard. Then mobile shit came along and killed much of the remaining community.

>>60699583
>>60696962
I have an early 2.4GHz IBM P4 sitting under my desk right now. It does nothing but sit there.

>>60703489
It's a hard life lesson to learn but eventually all technology communities you enjoy will die.

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How do I make this thing look comfy for pictures?

Also recently got 98 running on one of my older laptops. Ought to get a picture of them all together and running when I get home.

>>60703528
At least it seems to be picking up again with the new 84+ CSE/CE that came out recently. They FINALLY jammed an EZ80 in it.

>>60703472
Didn't that modem still require making relatively expensive phonecalls?

>>60703571
Not unless you lived in the middle of nowhere. I only called local BBSes because I knew I'd get my ass handed to me if I put long-distance on the phone bill.

>>60703472
>Except you have to pay for internet to be able to do any of that
The fuck do you think a modem does, communicate through magic? The Telco wasn't a charity operation, that's for damn sure.
>where even the poorest of poorfags back then just needed a modem and any shitbox they could throw together with scavenged parts and find something to do
Yeah, and now the poorfags of today can go down to a thrift store and pay $20-$50 for a complete turnkey setup that wasn't considered a toy even when it was new and usually comes with a full suite of usable software on top of it. Are you a LARPer or something? This post is ludicrous.

>>60703720
Oh boy, here's the edgelord here to ruin everyone's fun.

Everyone had a POTs line in their house. You had to have a phone for a million reasons. And I don't know where you live, but in case you didn't hear, only bigger cities still carry computers in thrift stores like Goodwill. All electronics donations are either not accepted or shipped there. I haven't seen anything computer-related at Goodwill in years.

But hey keep pretending you're better and smarter than everyone else, I'm sure that'll take you far. You might even get to be president.

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>>60703720
Now I remember why I stopped coming here. Go back to /pol/.

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>>60703757
>And I don't know where you live, but in case you didn't hear, only bigger cities still carry computers in thrift stores like Goodwill. All electronics donations are either not accepted or shipped there. I haven't seen anything computer-related at Goodwill in years.

>tfw Goodwill Computer Center in my city

>>60703757
What the fuck does everyone having a landline have to do with whether or not it cost money? Your entire fucking point was that you had to pay for internet access, dumbass. And if you're going to pull the "well that's a large cities only thing" then doesn't that also pull apart your response to the other guy that pointed out that long distance charges were a thing? You're all over the place, nigger, and it's not hard to get a new-ish PC off the second hand market in most places, just replace "thrift store" with any shithole near you selling used systems.
>But hey keep pretending you're better and smarter than everyone else, I'm sure that'll take you far
Cry more, faggot roleplayer. If you say stupid shit then people call you out on it, /g/ isn't your personal circlejerk where you can play pretend oldfag and talk about how the kids these days just don't know how good you think they had it.
>>60703784
And quit samefagging with your phone. You're not fooling anyone.

>>60703878
not him, but I'm in a rural area and I just googled used computers near me and the closest place is 37 miles away...

>>60693507
As/400 is a beast! Still one of the best DB machine today

>>60704347
And that's like what, 45 minutes to an hour's drive tops? That's maybe a concern if you're a collector who wants to drop in frequently, but not really much at all in this context.

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>>60688601
was this one in a prison?

>>60679179
We still have teletext in the UK, don't know about other countries. So it's pretty aesthetic over here.

>>60704510
Probably a prototype, they did that a lot

>>60704536
Do we?
I know we had the red button or something, but I thought teletext itself died with analogue signals in like 2011?

>>60698167
I'd prefer sex and drugs with my vaporwave, tnx

>>60701441
>Fucking awful memory management, though.
That's as good as it goes without breaking compatibility.
EMM386 does not work for some reason with UMB on this machine without locking up all the time, even with the most basic configuration and third party memory managers work great but break shitloads of compatibility with games.

>>60703390
I pirated most of my software.

>>60704510
TOPKEK

>>60676494
Why are there skulls in the window?

>>60701461
Those funny heatsinks are standard now in the PCMR world.

>>60701740
Lovely.

I can't understand the "goold old days" bashing though, yes things where harder, but that was the charm, it was nowhere fun most of the time but you had intimate knowledge of your system. There is nothing bad in having experienced the time and saying "You didn't miss anything" and "no you didn't like those days" is wrong, he ended up here with us anyways, he just experienced more of it.

>>60703390
>Back in the "good old days" I would undoubtedly be stuck on some expensive, geriatric 8-bit shitbox with garbage software I'd still have to pay out the ass for because I have no other choice, and I probably would have never developed anywhere near the interest or passion for computing I have gained from the opportunities the modern era has afforded me.

Computers went down in price quickly after release, 3 years latter a $3000 system would cost $300.
I had several x86 systems like a PC AT, 386, 486, several (beefy) Amigas and Ataris, Amstrad CPC, etc at once in the early 90's and I was born in a middle class family in a (then) unstable country.
Pirating software and games was widely a thing and usually at night you could even dial-up for free.

>>60703390
>You have no future with Compaq
How wrong they where... irony bit them in the ass for being smug.

>>60702073
I own one so I can call it whatever the fuck I want it, if you did too you'd know they are shitty build quality

>>60703529
Did you invent that clock?

Jokes aside, it should be easy enough getting a comfy photo of that. Just get some good appropriately-placed (tungsten) lighting, a tripod, and a real camera. And then set it up so it looks like you're getting shit done, like this anon >>60689948 always does in the /bst/ threads.
>>60688520
>>60688546
I know that feel.
There was a county surplus store quite near where I used to live. They used to sell a lot of the old IBM thinkpads and various other interesting old gadgets for like ~$20 or so each when I was a teenager in the early '00s. They even had some luggables if I remember, but I have no idea if they worked. I used to think "who would pay $20 for some old crappy computer?"

I did bag a working Model M there for just $2 later on though, which I still use.

TL;DR check your local gov't surplus. They often have some pretty unique stuff.
>>60686916
>>60686934
That is amazing. You deserve a (you).

>>60695596
Fuck my grandparents had that same pc.
Oon aika kade kun oot tommosen säilyttäny.

>>60706195
Nice!
Hello naber from the north, viro täällä.

>>60705749
>TL;DR check your local gov't surplus. They often have some pretty unique stuff.
Those times are sadly passed, rarely anything worthwhile.

>>60677634
>1982
That makes me realize how advanced was the Alto with its WYSIWYG interface back in 1973.

>>60706299
Alto was very advanced, that's what you get when you put a team of smart people with unlimited time and founding to bring out the best they can with the technology at hand.

But even Xerox took ideas for the Alto from even previous attempts, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJDv-zdhzMY

>>60688740
>hey bob, is this red light supposed to be on?
>oh god no! we're losing the reactor! quick! find switch HY21.374B9 and route power through HY16.9827C
>the fuck? are you sure it's not HY29.4321Z?
>damn it! i know which one...ah shit...check HY12 sub panel G bank 7 subsection I.
>subsection Y?
>SUBSECTION I GOD DAMN IT!
>oh no...
>KABOOM

Who designs the UI for nuclear reactors? Satan?

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>>60701923
this is what i'm seeing

>>60707260
No, people who ran them did, so they could not be replaced

>>60707357
I guess it's just a illusion, it's spinning onto the smaller one

>>60707396
yea, that's what i figure
the left reel is is very clearly going clockwise, but the right reel isn't so clear
probably a strobed light causing it to appear reversed

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>>60675596
HP-85

>>60707425
If you think that's confusing, check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lh4CMz_Z6M

>>60707500
OPs pic is a IBM 5100, but damn I want a HP 85!

>>60704431
It's really different from any environment I'm used to. I have another machine for playing around on. Would like to do more with it, but it takes about 6 hours to load up completely. I think the version of OS/400 that came with it is too new for the anemic hardware.

>>60707523
that's a pretty smart idea, the vacuum compartments
sort of like a read/write buffer, for faster seeking within a small section of tape

>>60709202
>read/write buffer, for faster seeking within a small section of tape
exactly what it is

>>60677906
I ran a /g/ BBS in late 2015 - early 2016, but ya'll wouldnt stop trying to hack into it. So I then re-purposed it as an 8ch /tech/ bbs but then no one used it so I gave up on it.

>>60709293
Kek, I remember

Imageboard culture started on BBSes.

>>60709310
Im actually working on a more secure python BBS software that runs over SSH, not telnet. And uses by-crypt to encrypt all the data within it. Gonna run it on a virtual machine and maybe restart it.

>>60709368
well python/c. But C is just for the base connection, threading, etc. Python runs the UI.

>>60709293
There are still 4chan specially /g/ focused BBSes

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>>60709436

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG0wpwq8FdQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJD0LaotHwA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvAgLFg57eE

>>60710879
>>60710941
>>60710953
I guess those videos are supposed to be watched on those TV sets as well

Anyone used Dreamblaster wavetable cards?

>>60711472
boards*

>>60712318
k

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>mfw I keep adding to my collection by digging through my university's recycling bin
there are some hidden goldmines out there

>>60713929
Post pics of stuff!

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>>60713985
most recent find: a 1992 Compaq Contura 3/25

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>>60714015
misc stuff

also found a few Dell AT101Ws

>>60714015
Neato, those old Compaq laptops where great (except the screen).

>>60714028
Oh, I have seen your stuff before!

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>>60714042
I've also found a Dell Latitude D600 (fully restored) and a 1ghz Athlon tower (partially restored, needs new cpu fan)

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i'm the OP of the original thread

i thought the thread died an hour after posting but i come back and see two threads with hundreds of posts

i was just listening to newretrowave and suddenly i have hundreds of comfy retro computer content to bask in - THANKS GUYS! :D :D :D

this vid was posted in the other thread, what movie is it?

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>>60675596
Not really retro, but I have an HP-Compaq dc5750 Microtower with a 2.4GHz Athlon 64 and I'm thinking about installing Windows 2000 on it (since it has drivers for it). Should I go for it?

>>60714237
>what movie is it?
WarGames

>i was just listening to newretrowave and suddenly i have hundreds of comfy retro computer content to bask in
Have fun!

>>60714265
Sure, if you enjoy it, knock yourself out

>>60714028
Looking at your picture, I had a crazy idea of RAIDing up some ZIP drives, kek

>>60686542
The PReP machines are good too. While they can't run anything past 5.1, my 43p can run 4.3.3 well. Even got Quake 1+2 running on it. I also own a Intellistation Power 275 along with some newer servers but they actually have a special service processor that has to boot up before you can turn on the system, and then takes a few minutes to bring up the system to Open Firmware once you hit the power switch.

Also the original 43p can run Windows NT4, Solaris, and maybe OS/2 as well.

>>60686877
I haven't found many big name CAD for UNIX floating around, aside from IRIX. You can find compilers, such as GCC and IBM's VisualAge C for AIX however.

>>60714366
That's an interesting idea, The two in my picture are both scsi, so I could string them both in a chain and plug them both into my computer, which I don't think would be possible if they were parallel port models.

Still need to find a scsi interface card tho...

>>60710953
"Now we can watch Jackie Gleason while we eat!"

>>60714198
muh gigahurtz

>>60710953
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea. Philco's Predictas look menacing enough already. This shit looks like it's plotting my death everytime you pick it up.

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>>60714956
Not to mention that particular model can legit easily kill you too. They put super high voltage wires to the CRT through a flat ribbon cable that you would slip under your rug.

This thing is a literal death box.

>>60705361
Oh fuck yeah, I exaggerated a bit and my story wasn't all that different from yours, really, except my pool of devices was way smaller.

But in the end what I'm saying is that I can get way more of what I want now than I ever could have back then, and it's never been a better time to enjoy the microcomputer revolution. With enough patience I can get my hands on a top-of-the-line example of pretty much any platform I want within reason, I can enjoy the best of the best and make the best out of it, and that's half of what I love about this shit in the first place.

I can't say it wouldn't have been nice to have a chance to get a crack at all the big iron that's lost to the times now, though, but without the shit tons of cheap hardware and accessible software the modern era has offered me it's doubtful I ever would have developed an interest in the real shit to the point of taking advantage of those opportunities anyway.

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>>60706299
It's pretty incredible to think of the disparities between the cutting edge and the mainstream for all those years until the steady leveling of the playing field really started to kick into high gear around the 2000s.

>>60715068
Aren't all CRTs death boxes?

>>60715719
Not really because most crt tvs are shielded within a cabinet, so you can't casually touch HV without taking it apart.

>>60715719
Most CRTs don't run high voltage in a flat cable under your chair where the cable can get fucked and fray. They only kill you if you fuck with them.

>>60698167
>monster Truck Madness
MY NIGGER. I had both. Modded the shit out of 2.

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>>60710953
>>60714956
>>60715068
That's insane. The standards of safety really were different back then.

>>60715954

What the fuck is going on in this picture?

>>60715984
The Hell we lived in before PCBs.

>>60715984
what electronics looked like before the invention of printed circuit boards

(tho t.b.h. wired chassis were better for tube-based equipment because PCBs warped with heat)

>>60715984
Point-to-point wiring on a tube amp from the 40s or 50s. And there's super-high voltage going through some of those wires, too. That's the way it was done before PCBs. That picture isn't mine, but I have a mono amp which is very similar.

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>>60716023
>>60716039
>>60716062
>Point-to-point wiring
>look this up

wat
how could this possibly work

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>somebody actually did this with their bare hands

>>60716089
Very fucking carefully.

>>60715954
>>60715984
>>60716111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-teXC1mFKaQ

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>>60716122
"and here we have a televisionis zenithicus majestically flying in it's natural habitat"

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>>60716023
It's a strangely beautiful kind of hell.

>>60716122
>>60716270
>slams into ground
>mercury batteries rupture
>there were no survivors (except the tv)

>>60717795
It actually uses 2 6v lead acid batteries
here's a video demoing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPyNGwDK1RE


>there were no survivors (except the tv)
kek yeah that model cost over $1400 in todays money. These things were built like tanks.

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>>60718024
wow, over $1400? that's really ex--
wait, that's not even that expensive, really

of could it costs much less for a cheapo tv, which probably wasn't even an option back then, but high end tvs cost more than than still

>>60704872
>EMM386 does not work for some reason with UMB on this machine without locking up all the time

That means EMM386 is trampling on a memory range the BIOS is using for something important. You can manually exclude it if you can find a memory map for that model.
Otherwise your memory is faulty.

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>>60718098
I'd like to see that chinese pos survive being dropped from an airplane

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>one day you will own a Zenith
I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. Unless it makes a comeback like one of those faux legacy brands like Polaroid, Westinghouse or RCA. I've read that those RCA LCD/LED tvs are particularly awful and the manufacturer won't even honor the fucking 1 year warranty.

Anyway I remember Zenith because I once was in a hotel room in Veracruz when I was like 4 or 5 and they had a 27 inch Zenith TV that you could hear the radio on. I thought that was rad as fuck back in the day, I wish they made TV/Radio sets like that one.

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>>60718539
They're technically still around, but in zombie form. LG bought them out, killed them off, and slapped their logo on their low end products.

>>60718461
You're implying CRTs would?

>>60718679
>>60716122

>>60718692
>parachute

>>60718705
And?

>>60718717
Not exactly the same as hitting the ground at terminal velocity?

>>60718622
I fucking hate it when manufacturers buy decent brands and use their logo on their shitty products, especially PC manufacturers.

>>60718787
Examples of this happening?

>>60718733
(not the guy you've been replying to, i'm >>60718461 )

I meant using the same test that the zenith was put through (with parachute)

>>60718796
Compaq used to be a better company until HP bought it. Same with Alienware before Dell bought it.

>>60718796
IBM vs lelnovo

>>60718813>>60718461
>>60718733
>>60718717
>>60718705


The electronics's survival after being air dropped is to be expected. The wood/metal materials and assembly is more rugged than today's plastic crap so its survival is also expected.

What really impressed me was how the TV's glass panel survived the fall

>>60718733
>at terminal velocity?
WHEN WAS THIS EVER PART OF THE DISCUSSION

>>60682964
I love the full tower. Where can i get a grey full tower case nowadays bummer man

>>60718920
Without watching the video there's no sign of a parachute anywhere in the phrase "dropped from an aircraft", and the differences in impact force can be significant

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>>60718872
Zenith's safety glass is pretty resilient. They have a pretty thick layer of polyvinyl acetate adhesive between the crt and the glass.

>>60718960
Then maybe it was expected of you to watch the video, numbskull

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>badass ceramic z80 for extreme temp applications

>>60718960
Instead of going deep into the post itself you should look at the context in which it was said.

>>60718733
>implying anything above 1kg can survive a fall at terminal velocity

>>60719037
Exactly.

>>60705749
Well shit, out of all the garbage I have, I need to get my hands on a real camera. And look up tungsten lighting.

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fun fact: the term "clicker" comes from the first remote control, the Zenith Space Commander. When you pressed a button, a hammer struck an aluminum rod producing an ultrasonic tone (to be picked up by the TV) and a loud audible "click".

>>60718972
thank mr. zenith salesman

>>60719341
never heard anyone call a remote a clicker, is that an american thing?

>>60719384
I don't know if it's only an American thing, but it's definitely a popular term here.

I'm not sure if TV removes were even really a thing outside of the US in the "clicker" era.

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>>60719384
yeah but I think it's more common in the mid-west

>>60719341
tiny little edit: the Space Commander wasn't the first remote ever, that would be Zenith's "Lazy Bones" wired remote in 1950.

They also made a shooting gallery remote called the "Flash-Matic" in 1955.

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>>60719527
kek, nice adblocker

>>60719527
we had one of these in our antique store for a while that still worked great with a DTV box, didn't have the remote though

almost ended up selling it to some dumbass hipster who wanted to turn it into a fucking fishbowl, but it did go to a good home in the end

>>60715156
I agree, it's a good time to be alive, for retro machine right now.
Actually like 10 years ago would probably been the best time, now prices have already gone up shitloads.
Just saying it wasn't all that bad experiencing those machines as your daily drives back in the day either.

>>60715954
The picture itself isn't all that bad, those type of constructions where quite reliable and if you had the smarts to ground them, safe also. But I agree, running the high voltage over a flat cable outside the TV box, nuts.

>>60716122
>>60716270
I wonder how many TVs they had to throw out of that plane before one of them worked after landing, kek

>>60718261
Did that already, but only gained like ~40KB, but then the Sound Blasters CTCM wants some memory from that region too, or it will crash, but it has to run after EMM386, so I didn't bother looking into it any more, just because I really haven't had a problem needing that UMB space to free up base memory to begin with. As I said, third party managers work fine also, like QEMM, but some games/software don't like those.

Memory checks out fine, also all the memory is on SIMMs, even base memory, easy to change at least.

>>60718796
Commodore and Amiga

>>60721874
Also, I suspect the on board VGA maps it's memory to the UMB part of RAM too, like older MDA and CGA cards did.
I will try messing with it again after I get a top notch dedicated VGA card for it.

>>60719527
>>60719341
Wireless stuff should be really impressive back then.
I feel like we're not going to live that kind of innovation anymore, now it's just improving existing tech, or using a well known tech in something that didn't have it in the first place.

>>60719018
Does it overclock better too?

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I'm streaming old episodes of Computer Chronicles from 1995, if anyone's interested:

https://sync-video.com/r/rDpYqyJE

Currently Watching:
>Mobile Computing (1995)

Next Up:
>Mac Clones (1995)

>>60723079
This is a great idea for /retro/

>>60723079
Oh man that's a great show, I remember some guy uploaded like all the episodes to Youtube, great to set on a playlist and play in the background

>>60723186
It's a neat idea to discuss stuff in the videos with other /retro/ anons in real time

i was only joking ;-;

>>60723490
wut

>>60723079
Sweet

Hey /retro/, I want to get started in retro computers, but I only make $13/hr sysadminning at my university.

What's a cheapish way to get started?

>>60725735
If you have to ask a question like that then that shit ain't for you.

>>60716089
You really shouldn't be here

>>60726685
kek

>>60726685
That's the average /g/tard for you

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I spent all day restoring this guy, it was quite relaxing.

>>60727001
Real comfy!

>>60727065
Certainly so. A lot more than my IBM Selectric. The Selectric looks more impressive than this thing, though.

new thread when?

>>60727425
Already here!

NEW THREAD!

>>60727427

>>60727001
>the entire interjection
damn, that's determination