Delid this https://youtu.be/I1Bv8Mxnnlc

>>60673621
>INTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH
>AMD ON SUICIDE WATCH
>NVIDIA ON SUICIDE WATCH

Please faggots, keep this shit tier posting to a minimum.

I use whatever i need/want to use.
What you're doing with these posts is that you're giving free marketing to either of the companies.

>>60673621
Even the dude explaining the process don't recommend this shit holy fuck intel

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>>60673621
Medieval torture device.

>>60673621
>$1999
>you need to delid
who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

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>>60674151
>who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

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OMFG
IT HAS A RFID CHIP

>>60673621
Do not forget the NSA guaranteed backdoor

>>60674085
even the dude that made the torture device don't recommend it.

>>60674151
Intel shifts cooling costs from itself to consumer. It is genius idea [spoiler]from Intel point of view[/spoiler]
Next stop Intel will sell you $5000 CPU that already comes delided. Intel saves on manufacturing, you don't void your warranty. Everyone is happy. [spoiler]though part about warranty might not be very fun to Intel [/spoiler]

Can I get the basic gestalt on this?

isn't Intel blowing the fuck out of AMD cucks always and forever?

>>60674205
Fuck, I forgot that spoilers don't work here

>>60674209
not anymore

>>60674279

what changed?

>>60674209
Intel is a bunch of cheap-asses and didn't solder the die to the heatspreader, using cheap thermal paste instead. "enthusiasts" (read: retards who are still stupid enough to buy this shit) take the heatspreader off to apply their own, better thermal paste. This leads to 10-20c drop in temperatures. In the process they void the warantee and potentially damage their CPU. All the new HEDT CPUs from Intel need DELID. AMD's new CPUs are all soldered.

>>60674287

even the new i5 CPUs have this problem?

>>60674295
Yes, anything made by Intel in the past 5 years, with a few exceptions (X99, Xeons), aren't soldered.

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>>60674295

>>60674337

But aren't CPUs ending with a K in their name actually MEANT to be over-clocked?

>>60673621
Today:
>don't overclock to avoid high temps
Tomorrow:
>don't use to avoid high temps
Intel in full panic mode yet can't give up their Jewish way.

>>60674364
No, it's
>use watercooling to avoid high temps

>>60674349
no, goy.
it's unlocked.
but you can't overclock it.

>>60674349
technically yes, but they made it so you can't overclock properly if you refuse to void your cpus warranty

It's like intel became the apple of cpus

>>60674349
No, that indicates that they are unlocked (to charge a few extra dollars), not that Intel designed them to be overclockable.

>>60674368
Actually it's
>use watercooling to use it at all
It's a minimum. Overclocking would require cryogenics.

>>60673621
How does the cpu work without the lid?
Wouldn't this cause it to be prone to physical interference?

>>60674349
K stands for "kiked"

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>>60674284
AMD's new Zen arch performs nearly on par with Intel's arch that they've been optimizing for years (within 5-10% IPC) while having a much better design that can scale near effortlessly with high yields into very high core counts. Pic related is Epyc, AMD's server CPU.

>>60674444
>not even a bigger single die
>still better than intel housefire.

>>60674167
Botnet?

>>60674444
>epyc
>server cpu
amd why

>>60674444
Check 'ed

>>60674488
because companies will be the last ones to care about the names of the products they're buying

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>video
>"sodder"
>not solder

The absolute STATE of American """"English""""

>>60674480
Who knows. I think it's meant for google sized servers. To scan in and out chips, than manually entering a serial number. Should a chip crap it self.
But given they added that, than solder, shows you their intent.

>>60674488
To create EPYCenters :DDDDDDDDD

>>60674539
ebyn :DDDDD

>>60674506
America invented english so we could understand god's dictation of the original bible to george washington so all american pronunciations are automatically correct

>>60674488
They let the Chinese intern who doesn't english good do marketing.

>>60673621
>RFID on CPU

BOTNET
O
T
N
E
T

>>60674586
lel

>fast forward 2 years
>Intel starts producing soldered CPUs like AMD
>every Intel drone buys the new generation
>they delid it because it's standard practice and they aren't used to changes
>CPU get destroyed
>they buy a replacement
I can't wait for this

$2000 CPU only genuine with original Intel(TM) Jizz(R)(C)

Don't forget to add more bingbus!!! :-----DDDDD

>>60675479
I don't think intel will ever make soldered cpus again unless they're close to bankruptcy

>>60673621
So what if I delided my i9, will it cause you to die?

>>60675580
It would be very dangerous.

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JEWTEL ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>60675626
You're a big die.

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It's been a LONG time since I built a system, are pins on the bottom of the CPU not a thing now or is this just a special version for this demo?

>>60675640
so... 64 lanes, is that a threadripper ""schematic""?

>>60675654
Intel has put the pins in the socket rather than on the CPU for years. AMD still uses pins on the CPU.

>>60674167
Fucking mental, AMD could clean up by just removing the management interface and making a public statement that there are no RFIDs

>>60675654
I think it's because of the quantity, making it rather easy to bend a lot of pins.
So resting it onto contacts is seemingly the best alternative. Bearing in mind that these would be put together once. Not fucked about with every so often.
Pins are still best for smaller consumer grade, as upgrading and fucking the mobo side of things is more of a cunt to deal with.

>>60675695
Cool, thanks.
Don't think I've ever built with an intel cpu

>>60674287
10-20C is a significant drop you dipshit
>muh warranty
when did you ever need warranty for a CPU you cuck

>>60675732
t.intelcuck

>>60674287
>take the heatspreader off to apply their own, better thermal paste
How much does this better thermal paste cost?
My understanding is that the soldering needs to be done with a precious metal, but how much can some shit in a bunch of silcone cost?

>>60675479
no
>fast forward 2 years
>intel cpus no longer come with a heatspreader, sold separately
>intel fans rejoice because their overlords let them use whatever TIM they want
>another year passes
>core i15 is just a raw die you have to place in your own cpu, pass the cost to the motherboard manufacturers
>intel fangays erupt in a fountain of jizz and piss in excitement

>>60675695
Not for Threadripper and Epyc they don't

>>60674287
I don't get why Intel is doing this with their rather expensive CPUs and I also don't get why anyone would even consider doing a delid on them.

Those new i9's cost like $2000 just for the CPU. But for fun, let's say it's just a $1000 CPU or even "just" a $500 CPU. If I just paid $500 for a CPU then I'm sure as hell not going to start screwing with it and risk breaking it and just figure that if I break it then I'll just buy another $500 or $2000 CPU and try again.

I'd understand it if Intel were using thermal paste on a $10 or perhaps $50 CPU and I'd fully understand why someone would mess with a $50 CPU to get some better temperatures. But opening a $2000 CPU and screwing with it? No way, the only reason I'd consider do this would be if I were a Youtuber and I got the CPU for free and I wanted to make a buck on advertisement revenue or something like that.

>>60675649
Fru

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>>60673621
>>60674085
>>60674099
תכבה את זה

>>60673621
>>60675654

I've watched a lot of delidding/thermal paste applying and cpu inserting/removing on YouTube. Can you basically touch 100% of the CPU with your bare hands and it won't damage the CPU nowadays?

>>60675888
Doesn't matter much because Threadripper is going to be superior in literally every category. AMD demonstrated it last night, they did their Zen blender test in 13 seconds. Estimated that all 16 cores were running at 3.5 GHz. Intel's 18 core is estimated to run at 2.8 GHz. And cost twice as much. Again. lol

>>60673621
jewtel
not even once

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>>60674205
Intel's next gen CPU:

igpu unlock code ($19)
delid cpu ($29)
unlock overclock + overclock subscription ($149/yr, that's only $10 per month goyim!)
6 month warranty ($39)
avx instruction sets unlock ($49)
DLC microcode updates ($9 each)

I can't wait :D

>>60675928
A complete guess but I'd say to long as you wiped it down after to remove any oils from your hands you should be ok.

Same for projector bulbs by the way, leaving 'finger oil' on a bulb KILLs the lifespan. protip

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>>60675949
They've already tried that.

>>60675949
>$149/yr, that's only $10 per month
Wait a minute

>>60675958
Is this legit? It's posted all the time but I never got to the bottom of it. Was it a firmware download?

>>60674488
Their marketing team is probably one of the single worst in the entire world.

If they had just kept calling it naples, it would've been fine. I seriously don't know how their marketing team manages to keep their jobs I'd have fired them all like 6 times already.

>>60675976
Yes, it's real. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Upgrade_Service

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>>60673621
How can Threadripper even compete?

>>60675990
Physical DLC, fuck intel

>>60674167
Where did you even see it?

>>60676055
They talk about/gloss over it in the video around 6m.
Not necessarily confirmed

>>60675928
As long as you discharge yourself to avoid ESD, yes

>>60675654
Intel uses pins on the socket
AMD uses pins on the CPU
It doesn't really matter, but I personally prefer AMD sockets
Easier to fix if you're a retard that has bent pins and less likely to mess up in the first place

>>60673621
I wont be buying intel until they put in some good thermal paste in it themselves

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lol.

>>60675992
By not costing 2000 USD.

>>60675654
Intel uses Line Grid Array, with the male(and most damage-prone) element on the motherboard which is almost always cheaper than the CPU

AMD uses Pin Grid Array which has the male element on the CPU which makes it more likely to be damaged.

In practice, it only matters if you fuck up, and FUCK the noise LGA makes when installing.

memes aside this is truly astonishing. they're trying so hard to take the wind out of ryzen's sails and yet still refuse to address such a basic QA problem in their highest tier products. intel is just incorrigibly tone deaf.

>>60674480
In general terms could someone explain how an rfid could be used in a botnet or in some other malicious way?

>>60676801
Correction: as of Threadripper and Epyc, AMD uses both PGA and LGA

>>60675949
Just add it as DLC in Steam and gaymers will be all over it.

>>60676952
It's intentional

I seriously don't think the shitty TIM and delidding shit is a mistake. It has every hallmark of Intel trying to save a buck while fucking their customers.

>>60675716
>Pins are still best for smaller consumer grade, as upgrading and fucking the mobo side of things is more of a cunt to deal with.
Not for Intel since when it's time for upgrading they will have a new platform anyway

>>60675976
>Wait a minute
Plus tip :)

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Inb4
>Intel shills are this delided

You're welcome.

>>60677116
>if you stick with the yid, you must delid

>>60674444
No APU.
>just wait

>>60677495
>APU
Useless on desktop.

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>>60677528

>>60677528
>everyone is a gaymur manchildren with additional autism chromosome like me
kys

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>>60673621
>yfw it will still be better than AMD's cpu's, no matter how many memes they throw at it

>>60677577
>GPUs are only for games
Calm down, /v/

>>60677600
>PCIe GPUs are needed by everyone
Calm down pajeet. You won't shill me into buying stuff I don't need.

>>60677624
They are needed by everyone who wants to upgrade his CPU and GPU separately, and doesn't want a half of his CPU die wasted.

>>60677648
So you're admitting not everyone needs it. Good. You made a progress.
So if there is someone who prefers low-tier APU instead of fully blown pcie gpu just to browse internet and watch porn this means it is not useless on desktops.

Now please permanently quit breathing.

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>>60677587

>>60677495
Pretty sure if you can afford ~1K$ processor you can afford a 30$ discrete GPU.

>>60677587
Those rebranded binned xeons at 2.7GHz will surely beat a 16c ryzen at 3.5GHz

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>RFID chip

>>60677707
Nice logic you got there.
murikan education at it's best

>>60677587
See
>>60677116

>>60677685
>uses PC literally as a Facebook machine
What are you doing here?

>>60675977
They probably can't name it Naples due to copyright. It's not that bad honestly, Intel are calling their new lineup "Extreme" and they come with "Mega-tasking".

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>>60673621
Fresh OC

>>60673621
Der8auer is an Intel shill

>>60677748
>libtard logic strikes again
where did I mention I'm personally using PC as facebook machine?
Seriously anon, no wonder you're NEET with such logic. Kill yourself before it's too late

>>60677829
>where did I mention I'm personally using PC as facebook machine?
In your post. "just browsing web" is a facebook-machine-tier usage of a PC.

>>60677748
He's just poor, bruh. Or extremely closed-minded, but these often go hand-in-hand.

>>60677863
You really should improve your reading comprehension

>>60677792
yeah, noticed it too, the fucker said that TIM is a better choice than solder. What a deluded fuck, he just wants more people to buy his little delidding toy.
>hurr muh solder will crack in the long run!
what a fucking retard, I've had my Phenom II 965BE fluctuating between 90C down to 35C idle running for about 5 years, with no change to temps or stability.

>2017
>de-fucking-lid kits exist
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

>>60677785
Needs a core i9 logo and a CPU on top of the bread somewhere.

>>60677910
wait anon isn't safe temps for Phenom IIs = or < to 62C

>>60677495
Intel's HEDT and server CPUs don't have iGPUs either, so I don't know what your point is here.

>>60677983
lolwhat
silicon itself can easily withstand even higher temps, it doesn't really affect the CPU in any particular way
maybe if you use mayonnaise instead of thermal paste it will degrade with time but other than that there's no risks. Except Intel i9 Housefires™

>>60678001
His point is that AyyMD CPU this thread is about has no APU. He never mentioned intel.
>so I don't know what your point is here.
That's because you're a retarded monkey with lack of reading skill.

>>60678036
Last time I checked, this is a thread about Intel's shitty CPUs and how they need DELID. Why don't you go play in traffic, retard.

>>60678073
It's irrelevant what this thread is about. He never mentioned Intel in his post.
Retard.

>>60678101
Kill yourself.

>>60678111
y-you too!

>>60678111
>umad

>>60678029
wait are u telling me all the stuff from back then when about Phenom IIs BE needing an aftermarket cooler and being shit for OC bc they'd die over 62C was just memes

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>>60677973
done

>>60678214
Delid this

>>60678214
Excellent.

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>>60678214
also for good measure...

>>60678284
Mayolake of fire.

>>60673621
Only scrubs don't delid their cpus

>>60678308
Think someone's given you a lobotomy and replaced your brain with thermal paste, bro.

>>60678454
if you dont plan on delidding ur cpu u might aswell get a ps4 faggot

>>60678454
Isn't that a prerequisite to purchasing Intel?

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>>60678473
How about, and I know this idea sounds crazy, but .. buy a CPU that doesn't need to be delidded in the first place?

EPYC

>>60678473
Consoles are for fags that call computer case a CPU.

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>>60678284
Kek

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Can Intel dethrone the king?

>>60673621
>rfid in the CPU itself
Holy shit jewtel wtf man

>>60678720
u herd the guy, it's a feature not anything sinister

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>>60678677

>>60676997
They always used LGA in Opterons, if I recall correctly.

>>60678677
I think they can
>2 cpu power connectors, each one can dump 200W

>>60678677
They can't efficiently output that much heat. It would melt even with a capable cooling solution. Unless you DELID THIS.

Buying budget ryzen cpus stifles r&d and innovation. If you truly want to support top of the line tech you should buy a skylake-x

>>60679430
well said. I only buy top of the line intel+nvdia every fken year to contribute to the cause of innovation

>>60679430
>>60679493
(doubleyou)

>>60674429
>Kids these days don't even know about the days when CPUs came without lids and you mounted the heatsink directly to the die

>>60680088
I remember. Snap crackle pop.

>>60679430
Buying this trash keeps Intel getting away with this trash. They have literally turned into the meme about AMD.

>>60675654
it prolly shifts some of the manufacturing cost from intel to the mobo makers, hence why.

in the intel shill group I was assigned to we were told to deflect all pin questions by refering to "reliability" and "bent pins", but I have no idea what the current policy is.

>>60680321
>the intel shill group I was assigned to
Got any stories?

>>60674507
Isn't this the kind of shit QR codes is for. Put it on the heat spreader (do not delid) and surely it's cheaper then. Isn't a serial number printed on the lid anyway?

>Jizz on a $2000 CPU
You can't make this up.

>>60675992
ok now post the temperatures

kek, Intel what the fuck are you doing? Zen is already amazing and can compete across the board, Zen+ is going to blow them into oblivion if they keep this shit up.

>>60673621
So lets sum it all
>1 cost more than AMD
>2 Lesser PCI lanes for no reason except jew you more money
>3 CPUs arent soldered
>4 Less L3 cache, but more L2 cache. Theorically it could be better, but could end bad too. Also they changed how L2 and L3 actually works

So essentially intel is cheaping their HEDT line, but doing so in a lot of aweful ways that hurts more than helps, like the absurd of using TIM.

With a 10 core behemot, with poor tim application, it surely will not be able to OC more than 4.0 ghz, even if the chip is capable, and it wont matter if you have a better cooling solution, the tim will limit you because it cant transfer temperature properly.

>>60683469
intel is shooting their own foot with this shit, it's almost like they're doing it on purpose to destroy intel

>>60674085
Well yeah, he can't go out and say "hey guys void your warranty and potentially wreck your chips because Intel use shitty thermal paste" while at Computex, near the Intel displays

>>60674209
No

>>60675940
>estimated

Let's not count our chickens before they hatch..... unless you have benchmarks and sources.

>>60675928
I delidded my 3570K, got oil from my fingers all over the gold connectors, put a small scratch from a craft knife into the top near the die, and got my fingers all over the top around the die. It runs completely fine.

CPUs are nowhere near as fragile as people make them out to be.

>>60683616
there is literally no reason not to, it's a lot easier to cool 2x8 core dies than one 16 or 18 core one, even more when you have solder and not toothpaste

>>60683642
I was referring to Intels sub par core speeds

>>60683616
See this post by this other anon >>60669687
And also >>60683642

It's basically two of the same die on one CPU and we can already see the clockspeed for those.

>>60683658
It's impossible to achieve such high clocks on a single die with so much cores, they'd need more than 200W tdp for any meaningful increase

>>60683622

did you get much out of it?

i left my 3570k as is and am pretty happy with it getting 4.5ghz @ 1.23V

>>60683746
I dropped like 15 degrees C, so yeah, I'm pretty happy. I think I lost the silicone lottery though, since my chip shits out if I push it past about 4.1GHz. I need to do further testing and mess around with the voltages, but even jumping up to 4.3GHz results in instability and bluescreens.

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>>60683532
First i was really interested on the platform, since i saw the L2 bigger cache, which could means 5-10% IPC performance.
Then i saw 44 PCI lanes only on 10+ cores. Then this shit over poor TIM.
Now some people are saying the L2 cache / L3 cache is going same direction as Zen, so, what is really Intel advantage here, besides all these disavantages, besides only the slighly better IPC?

Last but not least:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3199104/storage/intels-core-i9-and-x299-enable-crazy-raid-configurations-for-a-price.html

Intel allow you to raid NVM, but to boot you need to use intel SSD brands, and if you want anything else than raid 0, like raid 1 or 5 you need a special dongle, extra paid to intel (pic related)

>>60683658
Yeah, Intel's arch is already known to scale really poorly with core count. At 10 cores they're already down to 3.3 GHz base. Add 8 more cores? Probably down to 2.7 GHz or 2.8 GHz.

>>60674199
You're talking about the ones present in both Intel and AMD CPUs since 2008 right?

>>60683785
Since i dellied my 7700K, i was able to sustain 5ghz with 65C. Without deliding it was reaching 100C.
The reason isnt much about the poor tim, that is shit, but the real reason is that the silicone glue used to hold the IHS is left to cure without pressure, so when it expands it allows a minimal space to form over the die, preventing a total direct contact with the ihs, hence lowering thermal transfer.

>>60683830
Well, whatever the reason, it ends up with only one solution .. DELID.

>>60683830
I'm actually getting a 7700K soon, but I'm a bit iffy about delidding it. I only delidded my 3570K BECAUSE I'm getting the 7700K, and because it's already out of warranty, but it's a bit different potentially wrecking something new.

I'm gonna be getting a watercooled AIO with the 7700K, so hopefully that'll keep the temps down to a decent level. My 3570K is on air, so maybe it's not surprising I can't push it much past 4.1GHz. It sits at about 65-68 degrees when running IntelBurnTest, but when I put it to 4.5GHz it shot up to like 87 degrees.

>>60683791
intel only increased L2 cache so that their AVX512 can work better

there is literally zero advantages in getting intel's HEDT unless you use avx512, because it will be bad at everything else, ranging from low clocks to trying to save 15 cents of solder on a $2000 cpu

literally only fanboys will buy this thing instead of threadripper

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>>60683642
>there is literally no reason not to
There's literally every reason not to. AMD has an interest in showing their CPUs in the best possible light, even if it means underhanded tricks to fool consumers. Pic very related.

You have nothing solid to stand on beyond a benchmarks of AMD's choice under AMD-curated conditions. Gee, that's a reliable way to judge a product nobody else can test.

>>60683805
So let's play hypothetical here, let's pretend they made breakthrough on thier arch and it does maintain 3.3 on all if them. How much that change this thing, if at all? Seems like they still btfo.

>>60683875
Get ready to lose the silicon lottery. All the best chips left the fabs months ago.

>>60683848
Exactly, and soldering is the thing that solves it.
First, intel said it wasnt soldering "lesser" chips because smaller dies could crack due to soldering, besides you can see Amd soldering all dies, and Intel shills came with this story time after time.
Now intel have a massive core, even bigger than before, but they simply refuse to solder.

The reasons for that, i cant flat accept its costs. Maybe intel soldering process is shod and damage a lot of cpus, what i refuse to believe, or they are effective trying to thermally limit people, just to stay within TDP, or even else, to hamper everyone trying to get more "unauthroized" performance..

Just pair these shit chips with the RFC tag inside and this is a shit show.

Im gonna wait, but probably i will go with an AMD 10 cores, if i could manage to reach around 4ghz with it, im done.

>>60683910
explain to me why it would be impossible to achieve those clocks on threadripper then

>>60683927
Brutal. That's ok though. It boosts up to, what, 4.5 stock? I'll probably leave it stock for a little while and go up after that. I've done that with my 1080 - I'm leaving it stock for a while until I think it's time to start pushing it.

I also shelled out for a decent motherboard for the 7700K, as opposed to a mid-range overclockable board for my 3570K, so hopefully that'll also help.

>>60675913
אוי לא חיים, מה נעשה?

>>60683875
>>60683927
Man, there is no way you can really run this chip with the potential it have without a delid, its impossible. The chip tim application is much worse than devils canyon. Even if you use a custom loop, you cant keep lower temps, because the chip is really small, and it cant transfer heat in a proper fashion, no matter what kind of cooler you use.

The good of it is that you can really delid it safely, if you use a delid tool. There arent any components on top of substrate, but dont use a vise, and also, take much care if you use a razor.

Dont know about the silicon quality, but i got one of the first batches, run 5ghz at 1,32, really awesome with liquid metal. Its a shame intel outjewed itself with the poor tim.

>>60683923
16 cores @ 3.3 GHz they'd still lose to Threadripper. 18 cores @ 3.3 GHz, they'd win! Barely. But on the other hand, we know it's not possible.

Even the 1800X was trading blows with the 10 core 6950X.

>>60683910
Everything we know about Zen and Threadripper tells us it's possible. Zen is designed from the ground up to scale near linearly with core count and clockspeed. You can even download the Ryzen blender test and try it yourself on your own PC.

>>60683910
Man, im using almost only intel cpus for more than 25 years, Xeon, mainstream, HEDT.
Intel really fucked on with this one. They still didnt even delivered, and its leaking shit from all sides. I cant really go intel if post release threadripper keep up its promisses.

>>60684001
they'd lose either way, threadripper has 20 more pci lanes, which are actually more useful to content creators and enthusiasts than 200 more points in a cinebench score

>>60684036
The most disgusting thing you see from intel is
>8 cores cpu, but with 22 lanes (+100$ than amd)
>10 cores cpu with 44 lanes (1000$)

So even being able to hold the lanes, they are purposely removing lanes so you pay more if you wish 44 lanes. Its a fucking scam, while the same lanes are all avaliable to whole AMD platform.

>>60683992
> bought a $15 3D printed delid too for Kaby Lake
> thought it'd fit my Ivy Bridge processor
> it did not
> spent 45 minutes hacking away at the tool with a craft knife to make the 3570K fit
> gave up in frustration
> took the knife to the processor itself
> delidded in ten minutes flat
Maybe I should buy another tool for the 7700K, since it was actually made for it. Should I shell out for a better tool? What would you recommend?

>>60684148
Not buying a CPU that needs delidding.

>It's missing the regluing unit
Why even glue the IHS down? If you need to reapply paste from time to time it's easier to have it loose. Just put in the socket and put the IHS on top, the socket's lock thing will hold the IHS down on the CPU, it's not going anywhere.

>>60684158
Thanks mate but I've already bought the motherboard and settled on the processor.

>>60680503
Yes, yes and yes. There's no real reason for this.

>>60684212
and u paid how much for it? And the cpu?

>>60684253
Motherboard was $290 AUD
Processor will be about $478 AUD

You can put those into USD

>>60684036
this, i'm planning to switch from x99 just for pci lanes

>>60684265
But I always herd Australian tech prices are not comparable bc helluva lot more expensive.

How much would you have paid for a r7 1800x comparable setup out of curiosity?

>>60684296
No idea, but I can check for you. When you say 'setup', what do you mean? Just the motherboard/RAM/processor, or an ENTIRE PC?

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>>60684350
Meant just those 2 components.
I checked pc part picker AUS and boy, u could have gotten the 1800x for just 60$ more on a decent B350 mobo.

Or saved 300$ with a 1600 setup jfc

>>60684414
Probably. But I don't really mind. I weighed things up and just decided to shell out more for the CPU. Was it the wrong choice? I dunno, maybe. Probably, if you ask 50% of the people on /g/. But I don't get tech advice or suggestions from /g/. I do my own research and buy parts based on what I want, what I want to pay, and what I feel happy with.

I've seen too many '/G/ TOLD ME TO BUY THIS AND ITS SHIT REEEEEE' threads to take /g/'s advice for buying anything.

>>60684148
I got mine from rockit cool. 20$ if i remember correctly. You could use it, or order a pre dellied one with metal applied from siliconlottery.com for 50$. Also its glue sealed, i just didnt that because its way costy to send it here to brazil.

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>>60684414
you waited too long to buy anon, you missed out on some good deals

>>60684210
Applied liquid metal last year.
Processor its doing the same, month after month, no signs of decay in the tim. The thing is, even more than thermal transfer, liquid metal is awesome because its very stable. Use a common tim on die, it will decay in 1-2 months at best.

>>60684505
I don't get why liquid metal isn't the standard.

It's significantly better than traditional thermal paste, only reapplying it sucks.

It costs more, but the thermal delta means that you can run a cheaper air cooler and have it perform as well as AIOs - also avoiding traditional AIO problems like failing and noisy pumps.

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>>60684468
ofc nigga im glad u bought what u liked and all.

I'm just saying the difference in price is impressive.

Even a 1700 config pic related would have been killer

>>60684482
oh im not ozzie anon i was just checking on aus prices, that's a hella nice deal btw wow

>>60684544
Yeah, I was under no illusions that AMD was the cheaper option. I also know that Ryzen is leaps and bounds ahead of its last CPU releases, but I dunno. Probably stuck in a rut of 'stay with what works'. Never know, might run AMD next time.

I was considering a Red build actually, but after the flop of the 480, I was a bit turned off, and then Ryzen didn't reach the hype that AMD laid out for it - as it never does - and I guess I just went back to the standard Intel/nVidia build.

I shelled out for a 1080, up from my 760, and no regrets.

>>60684541
Liquid metal is conductive isn't it? Most people will get scared off by that.

>>60684681
Just gotta keep it on the die and IHS and you're fine. Coollaboratory's one, which I use, comes with a little brush that you use to spread it, and because it's liquid metal, it's SUPER easy to control and cover the entire die and IHS

>>60683791
This is some next-level jewery.

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>>60683791

>>60684541
>>60684681

Liquid metal is conductive, the same way solder is.
If you delid an AMD cpu or old intel HEDT you will see that any components on top of substrate are insulated.

The solder used is indium based, the same material used in liquid metal "pastes" like ULP, they usually do a mix of indium and gallium that results in a metal that is liquid at room temperature so you can apply it directly without need to heat.

>Why they dont use it instead of solder
Even with liquid metal being stable, i guess its prone to decay, more than solder, in a course of 4-5 years, so they need to use something that can really stick without failures for a long time.