>our sales are down >ADD MOAR CORES

>>60659273

Expect that aren't down.

Intel is doing better than ever. Their bread and butter (normal Pentium to Core i5s) are selling like hotcakes while their server/workstation tiers (Xeons) are enjoying their fortress.

This stunt makes no bloody sense. Somebody at Intel thinks it is still 1990s.....

AMD only threatens Intel's workstation/server line-up with upcoming Epyc and Threadripper.

>>60659310
>AMD only threatens Intel's workstation/server line-up with upcoming Epyc and Threadripper.
That is where most of their money is coming from.

Latest HEDT is an attempt to get rid of binned xeon rejects by selling them to goys at absurd prices, like usual.

>>60659310
>Intel is doing better than ever.
>q1 desktop sales fucking DROPPING with R7 only having three fucking weeks to sell
Good goy.

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>>60659273
>our sales are down

Really makes you think

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>>60660016
>Steam surveys are indicative of the market as a whole
Really makes you think.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

>>60660051
Q4 should be fun, that's when OEM sales, threadripper sales and mobile sales come in.

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>>60659310

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>>60660051
Top kek

Intel just keeps laughing all the way to the bank

>>60660016
think about killing yourself, dumb memespamming /pol/ fucktard

>>60660081
Every time you post this shit you end up BTFO. The sales data doesn't get reset every two seconds.

>>60660112
>>60660126
>I hate facts

>>60660128
How about a fact where Intel's PC sales were down 13% QoQ with a full quarter of Kabylake revenue?

>>60660144
Proofs.

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>>60660154

>>60660188
Oyyy-veeeey.

>>60660188
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60660188
Oy! They know.

>>60660051
>Steam surveys
lmao what. This is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.

>>60660188
Did they launch Kabylake at the start of the quarter expecting this? It would probably have been closer to 20% if Kabylake was Q4 2016

>>60660188
literally annudah shoah

>>60660188
Man i can't imagine how devastating the rest of the year will be for Intel.

>>60660282
Not as much as next year or Q4 this year when AMD has all its products rolled out.

>>60659273
>our sales are down
>let's make processor nobody can buy

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Check 7800X out, though.

Goodbye Ryzen, nice knowing you.

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>>60660112

>>60660335
>3.5/4.0
Lmao, Ryzen 6 cores is half the price and isn't a housefire at the same clocks.
Plus, it won't need a $200+ motherboard or liquid cooling

>>60660335
>$200 for shit-tier mobo
>also a fucking housefire
Lmao.

>>60660351
Um, sweetie, Rypoo is shit. No one wants 2011 performance.

>>60660368
Your tears are beyond delicious.

>>60660335
>mUH CLOCKS MUH FIRE INSURANCE MUH DELID
>Intel now has a 6 core at 3.5GHz please buy it's only 100% more expensive than Ryzen

Roflmao

Remember when AMD poojeets cried how power usage doesn't matter whenever TDP was mentioned?
>I w-want performance, not power efficiency
>no one cares about power consumption, it's literally a few dollars a year
Now they incessantly bring it up in every thread. Why are AMDead pajeets such hypocrites?

>>60660351
Laughing at 4.0GHz when vast majority of Ryzens can't be clocked beyond 4.1? Remember the better IPC and memory peformance.

What comes to coolers, as if Nehalem at 130W required liquid cooling. Slap a Noctua on, clock to 4.5GHz+ and have a chip which is better than Ryzen across the board.

Of crouse, if you want to compete with 6c/12t ryzens a 4c/8t Intel is plenty.

FYI, this is the national suicide hotline: 1-800-SUICIDE

>>60660396
Remember how power usage is all you could talk about Bulldozer and GPUs until Zen? Now you don't want to?

Keep crying, and get your anus ready for another round of gassing

>>60660410
>power usage is all you could talk about Bulldozer
Buldozzer was trash in every way imaginable.
>Now you don't want to?
And you don't want to talk about performance. Intel is still leading and they're about to widen the gap even further, you Indian subhuman.

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>>60659273
>MOAR TDP!
>Stock clocks no higher than Ryzen despite being HEDT.
>Crippled chips with no quad channel RAM and low numbers of PCIe lanes (surely the only reason anyone would go HEDT outside of business workstations)
>Who needs solder for heatspreaders? Customers can just delid their $2000 CPUs if they want to overclock.
>Who needs affordable motherboards?

Threadripper is going to tear X299 to shreds for enthusiasts.

>>60660408
>>60660396
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-x-series-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-x299-basin-falls-core-i9,34545.html

>The LGA2066 socket is compatible with LGA2011 cooling solutions, which is a plus. However, Intel now recommends water cooling as the minimum cooling option, which will add more cost to the overall solution.


>However, Intel now recommends water cooling as the minimum cooling option,
>minimum cooling option
>minimum


Get those deliders ready.

>>60660396
Because that was for gaming. Where you'd run the machine for less than 5 hours a day, and not at 100% useage for most of that time.
But here we have 12 cores for business applications where you run the fucking thing flat out 8-24hrs, 24/7, 52weeks of the year.

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>>60660440
>Intel is still leading
Hello IMG_XXXX.

>>60660447
Intel recommending != actual requirement.

A good air cooler with decent paste is plenty. Delid might be required for good OCs, though, since they jewed and didn't solder these.

>>60660476
Yeah, actual requirement is a $80 aircooler with 3 fans so turboboost doesn't actually gimp itself at 3.4GHz

>>60660335
>>60660368
>>60660396
>>60660408
>>60660440
lmao all this shilltel damage control.

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>>60660509

>>60660188
Wait, wasnt AMDs Q1 also lower than Q4 ? Sound like its normal in this industry.

>>60660535
AMD's Q1 was flat compared to their Q4.
But they bundle their CPU and GPU sales together, so it's not exactly known.

What's the difference between the i9 and Xeon? Will it have a fucking iGPU?

>>60660546
Q4 is holiday season, it's the most profitable quarter, MAD doing as good in Q1 as in Q4 is very fucking good for a technological company, especially considering they had no Q1 launches besides Ryzen 7, and that was only for 20 days, so far from a full quarter.

>>60660556
They're unlocked and don't support ECC.

>>60660556
i9 are shitty binned 1S Xeon abortions (now dead and irrelevant due to EPYC) with thermal jizz and unlocked multi.

>>60660570
Yeah those data centers are really big on christmas sales.

wat

>>60660335

this just proves that intel are pieces of shit

for several generation they havent brought to the table such price/performance chips, suddenly they release a whole lineup with more cores and unlocked for overcloking.

>>60660556
No ECC, less validation, gayming motherboards.

>>60660603
That doesn't make sense, nobody is saying about about datacenter sales.
It's strictly consumer compute and graphics.

>>60660605
>unlocked for overcloking.
Well done Intel well done HOWEVER

>>60660603
It's not that long before tax time, and holidays allows downtime to happen in refitting the center without much disruption.

>>60660605
A corporation in it for the money?

Oh dear.

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>>60660526

>>60660666

>>60660605
>unlocked for overcloking.
I don't see an K...

>>60659310
T. InShill

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>>60659310
>Intel is doing better than ever
lol no

>>60660335
>3.5/4.0
amd is clocked higher

1600x > 7800x

https://ark.intel.com/products/93804/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8867-v4-45M-Cache-2_40-GHz

>$4,672.00

Getting 18 cores for $1,999 is a steal, as usual AYYMDPOORFAGS don't know shit

>>60660689
There's also way more Chryslers on the road than Ferraris. Your point?

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>>60660722

>>60660722
>8S version
You're not even trying anymore, IMG_xxxx-kun.

>>60660733
not an argument

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>>60660722
>being this retarded

>>60660626
>>60660669

w-wait are you telling me those models are not overclockable??

>>60660760
Thermal jizz. You have to DELID FUCKING $2k CPU TO HAVE PROPER FUCKING TEMPS.

>>60660751
Glad that's cleared up then! Why did you post the non-argument, though?

>>60660760
You can overclock but good luck getting anywhere without delidding your $1000+ CPU.

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I'm not sure if the $100 dollar premium is worth the extra PCIE slots but higher TDP and less L3 cache.

>>60660822
1800X is a bad buy, 1700 is much cheaper.

>>60660822
You mean $200 premium? X299 mobos cost a lot.

>>60660783
the fact that the 1800x was selling far better than the 6900k isnt an argument, its a fact

>Ryzen comes out. Intel shill meme 'MOAR COREZ!'
>Intel core count 'suddenly' goes up.
>Intel shills try to use it as an argument against AMD.

You can't make this shit up.

captcha = hottest house

>>60660822
Intel is changing from 256kB L2 to 1MB L2 to improve IPC, comparing L3 like that doesn't give the full picture.

>>60660128
>/pol/
> I, hate facts

Really makes you think

>>60660848
lol those motherboards are going to start at $300.

>>60660874
>imrpove IPC
It's to make AVX512 work. It would have higher IPC only for loops that fit into L2, which are almost nonexistant.

>>60660784
All the benchmarks will be single threaded gayming, when the boost clock allows it to perform.
Also quick encoding/productivity benchmarks that are complete before the thing starts catching fire and throttle back to base clock.
Then nobody will actually buy this shit, but shill on /g/ will proudly claim Intel is so much superior. Regardless of how much they're jewing us.

>>60660874
Unless it's cache aware programs, more L2 won't increase IPC, in fact L2 access should be higher latency now.

Anyhow, L2 increase is mostly for AVX512 and not much more, a large pool of L3 historically helped Intel's IPC, but lowering it won't help them at all.
It's gonna be another 2-3% IPC increase at best.

>>60660892
You could buy good X99 boards for under $200 on launch day (MSI X99 SLI for example). I really don't think it will be any different here, especially with Kaby X entering the market

>>60660957
Adding firehazard to an already hazardous situation.
I wouldn't feel safe housing this thing if it wasn't running a good amount of quality vrms.

>>60660957
>good board
>msi
kek

>>60659310
top butt hurt

How long until Intel releases ©Ultra Threading™ enabling a full 3 threads / core in order to successfully fake MOAR KORS?

>>60659273
This exactly what I wanted to happen though. :) Intel sales down=cheaper Intel.

>>60660957
>3+2 VRM
It's like you want your fucking house to burn down

>>60659273
taking a page out of AMD's book except actually going to make it work

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>>60664794
lol even their previous HEDT platform was an overpriced mess that nobody bought.

>>60664794
>taking a page out of AMD's book except actually going to make it overpriced
FTFY

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>>60659273
the strongest

>>60665652
Yes, it's true. Only a big baka would buy this CPU.

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>>60660526
Intel rejects your laws, foul toilet witch.

>>60660062
> he saved my shoop
Maybe I should shop more meme pictures.

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>>60666046
It's a pretty hot meme desu.

>>60660188
Q1 sales are typically lower than Q4 you cherry picking faggot

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>>60660722
Too bad the entirety of Skylake-X and literally every single socket Xeon are getting absolutely dumpstered by Threadripper and Epyc :^)

>>60660722
Can't tell if trolling or just retarded.

All I wanted was a 6 core intel CPU with 7700k IPC.
Looks like the 7800k fills the bill.

The 7700ks biggest flaw was simply its core count.
I have a custom loop so tdp doesn't mean anything to me.
This shitshow is entertaining as fuck though.

>>60668423
7800K with 7700K clocks is going to be nuclear inferno tier. Even with a delid job.

>>60660722

You are retarded.

That's the 18-core MP SKU not the 18-core SP SKU of course it goes for $8K.

>>60668458
Good thing I have a custom water cooling loop then.
My 2600k 5.0ghz 1.45v has no issues with temps.

>>60668423
>7700K IPC
You know Ryzen is within 5-10% of Kaby Lake IPC anyway, right? http://www.zolkorn.com/en/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-mhz-by-mhz-core-by-core-en/view-all/

AMD will always lose. They will lose in the CPU market, and they will lose in the GPU market. They will always lose.

>>60668813 (You)

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>people memeing about Intel charging $2K for it's top tier i9
>memeing about the i9 memes that have been around for years becoming a reality
>the madlads actually do it

Have applications ever made use of more than two cores?

>>60668981
>I only use MS word

THE WAIT IS FINALLY OVER

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>>60659273
It'll be the first processor since the Prescott P4s to have an eject button!

when is cannonlake coming? 6 months for desktop?

>>60668981
The Unreal engine supports multiple cores all the way back to 1998. The original engine has issues on newer multi core PCs though. Even on Windows NT 3.51 you can play Unreal with more than one processor! It would be hilarious if you had one of those uber-expensive dual Pentium Pro workstations back in the day and played games on it.

>>60669831
I've heard Q1 2018, but it could just end up delayed again because >10nanomemes

>>60669861
The first Unreal engine doesnt scale further than 2 threads, and IIRC it requires an updated renderer to actually function that way. If it uses the stock DX8 or OpenGL renderers it's single thread only.

It's going to be funny when these i9s come out and their die takes up a much larger section of the heat spreader, while people do the same old dot and line techniques, causing their shit to heat up because the paste isn't covering a section of die.

>>60660335
A SOCKET CHANGE A YEAR KEEPS THE GOYIM IN FEAR

>>60669914
Interesting. I suppose at the time 2 processors were the max and it was just beginning to be feasible for some hobbyists around 1998 (dual Celerons with Windows NT and Abit motherboard). I wasn't exactly sure. It can detect all of my processor cores but I wasn't sure how they were used. There is little documentation; however I think could be some usage of multiple cores, even with the DX7 renderer because some people on modern PCs were having to turn off some cores to fix the framerate bug without installing the updated renderer. The software renderer usually fixes the speed up issue for me, so it may not be multi threaded. The speed up issue I think even happened on my fast Pentium 4 machine though. I think the Quake 3 engine was at least somewhat multithreaded though.

>>60669955
Not to mention that they're not soldered anymore

>charge $2,000 for a "consumer" cpu
>cheap out on shitty TIM
>Intel (tm)

>12/24 intel
>scared to delid $1200 CPU, naturally
>try to increase the clock for all cores for a humble amount of 100mhz
>power supply fails, visible sparks on motherboard


hmmmm, really activates my almonds

>>60659273
so wait let me get this straight, this is basically a fucking 7700k with literal moar corez slapped onto it? it appears to be 14nm and yet they are charging the same Intel prices for it and not even trying to compete with Ryzen instead banking everything on the press reception and shill reviews

>>60659273
Does the "i3-5-7-9" actually mean anything or is it strictly a brand?

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>>60660335
Why does intel only list L3 cache but not L1 and L2? Aren't they more important than the L3?

I never understood this.

>>60669955
How do you properly apply paste then?

Spread it like peanut butter?

Draw a X?

Bigger dot?

>>60670941
7700k with more cores and lower clocks, because if they kept full clocks it would be hiroshima and nagasaki again

>>60660188
>2017
>GAAP and not IFRS

Who do you bet did this?

>>60668458
Whats with this meme that intel overheats?
This literally never happens

>>60670879
>Things that never happened
>the post
AMD shills grasping at straws

>>60659310
The 1600 essentially destroys the i5 and now AMD is going after the server market. If AMD can court a serious amount of the server market then they might actually turn a profit.

>>60672030
try OCing cpus with more than 4 cores, but since you are a shilltel boy that will only buy jewtel products, you probably can't afford more cores and probably be scared to oc it.

>>60660188
>/g/ experts in charge of reading charts

That has more to do with dying pc market than anything else.
If you bought a CPU in last 5 years there is literally no reason for upgrade.

>>60659310
intel's bread and butter is not the low end, it's always been the server platform and the high end desktop. There they enjoy massive profit margins and massive contract sales with enterprise.

>>60660016
>sales = current desktop market share

you idiot, do you also think that speed = position?

>>60669831
cannonlake was cancelled for mainstream desktop, instead we're getting another mid-cycle refresh of skylake coffee lake. With Cannonlake only appearing at the bottom end on things like ultrabooks. Desktop cannonlake might come out H1 2018, but who knows.

>>60671263
The fuck? Aren't you supposed to PB spread it?

>>60660062
That's how you know it's working.

>>60660051

>gaymur kids don't prefer intel for their gaymen computers

who cares gaymen?

>>60671255
Lvl 3 is bigger, bigger means better.
t. Average consumer that knows nothing about technology

>>60672095
Maybe there is no reason to upgrade because Intel was selling the same shit over and over, while AMD Buldozered itself

Hey guys, can I shitpost too?

>>60674001
Sure, pick a side and start calling the other side shills.

>>60674001
Yes, of course, welcome to the club. Though please don't create tread #5894 about AMD/INTEL/NoVidia being dead.

>>60669861
>The original engine has issues on newer multi core PCs though
It has a massive timing bug because it depended on a constant cpu speed. Modern cpus with their variable multipliers fuck it right up because no games using that engine are demanding enough for a modern cpu to stay at full power for very long

wish the fuckers would open source that original engine so some neckbeards could fix it and we could have working builds and linux ports of all the classics (unreal, UT, deus ex, etc)

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>>60660062
I thought it was this one?

>>60674420
that was originally a amd... gpu.

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>>60674450
Nope, green team.

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>>60672021
lol.

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>>60672644
10nm+ won't be any faster than 14nm++ when it comes out, anyway. It will have (potentially) lower power usage which could mean higher stock clocks/OC.

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>>60669799
They're even releasing an "Extreme Edition" like in the Netburst days.

>>60674676
They've actually had Extreme Editions for a while now.

>>60674682
>2008
The fact that they brought it back before a viable competitor was on the market is kind of sad.

>>60674450
>Doesn't recognize 8800gtx by heart
you don't belong here or anywhere else.

>>60659273
>core i9
y-you wot m8?

>>60660526
>shitting just outside of the carpet is alright
>the sign still has the plastic wrapping on the bottom part to protect it from all the shit splatter

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>tfw bought a 6600k one week before ryzen 1600x is released

>>60674993
you are own fault

>>60674993
WOW you fucked up bad

>>60675222
I'm really useful in the sense I take all the bad decision, so if you want to make the good decision, you should do the opposite of what I'd do. I'm really a piece of shit, I will never have nice things because I ALWAYS make poor choices.

>>60672497

Low-end and mid-range has always been Intel's bread and butter. They make far more in sheer volume. It is what allowed Intel to be in the massive black during the "Netburst" days when K8 was completely raping Intel in HEDT/server markets.

Enterprise generates a handsome profit but it pales in comparison to the low-end and mid-range portables/desktop market.

>>60671263
Half pea/full pea sized blob in the center, then apply the heatsink evenly down onto it.
Not that it really matters.
You can do what ever, even lots of little dots.
Unless you're overclocking it's not going to make that much difference. 1-5c
Unless you're a 7700K owner, then you have to do it with machine like accuracy. As to not crack the die/meltdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Bv8Mxnnlc
Just leaving this here

I want shill for Jewtel. How can I convince goy yearly socket refreshes are necessary? Some AMD shits think AM4 will last 4 years! That 4 years from now they will get a sweet new 3rd gen Ryzen chip for their mobo!

>>60675599
Just keep hammering down on "muh single core". Even though it's only relevant for one CPU.

>>60675555
checked
the fuck is this RFID chip business?
they wanna know exactly where the processor is at all times now?

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>>60660368
>2011 perfomance

hey rotr is calling they want their KY back

>>60675847
Probably a new NSA backdoor

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>>60674420

Great job, anon!