AMD made irrelevant yet again

>>60658854
>$1999
>2.9GHz no boost
>probably OCs like absolute shit
>160W base TDP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lmao

>$1999
Lost me right there

>>60658876

the fastest CPU on userbenchmark isnt even OC'd and is faster than all the autistic 4+ghz (userbench allows OC speeds in its lists)

>>60658881

>wagecucks coming out in force to defend AMD

>AYYMDfags too poor too afford high quality Intel CPUs

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>>60658854
*blocks your path*

>>60658907
>AMDfags are too poor xDD
>boasts about Intel having the best cheap CPU
ayy

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>>60658907

>>60658901
>Intelfanboy immediately calls out AMD fanboy to anyone who disagrees with pricing
Imbecile, I get is a high end CPU but 2k USD is just stupid
I think its useless to tell you I also use Intel and still will be upgrading to new gen this year right?

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>>60658901
Oy! Don't buy AMD.

>>60658929
>>60658928
>thinks amd can outperform intel
heres a hard xD my dude

>>60658854
Get a real job

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>>60658854
>Intel Neutron Core i9 Mayo-Lake Ebin Bipeline Edition

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>>60658907
>>60658901
>>60658854
>>60658943

6C/12T 140W
isn't ryzen 65W with the same specs
what the fuck intel
this is fucking skylake with 2 moar cores
fuck this shit
I trusted you Intel

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>>60658854
>CPU version of fermi
well at least I can agree that intel will be dominating the news cycle with their housefires. It worked out for nvidia so not even sure if it's a bad thing

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>pls buy intel amd sucks

>>60658854

i7700 is actually only 5-10% faster at best than Ryzen at gaying and couldn't tell a difference between the platforms in a double-blind test.

However, the Ryzen R5 and R7 destroy anything in their price point. You have to spend over $1,000+ to get a meaningful difference over a R7 on the Intel camp.

Intel marketing is being foolish and arrogant. They are just asking to get undercut by AMD's Threadripper.

>>60658986
>isn't ryzen 65W with the same specs
It is. It even has better fucking SMT.

>2.8GHz base clock

Lmao, these will be outright obliterated by 3.6/4.0 threadrippers assuming Intel even releases them this year.

>>60658928

the G4560 is something to brag about because its an "APU" which is the only thing AMD had going for it at one time.

i hightly doube the ZEN APUs will be at that pricepoint considering their Ryzen releases so far with their R3 no where in sight for normal people and even then it wont have embedded graphics so its not a real logical price point for normal people

>consumers
>$1999
>for a fucking CPU

>>60658930

you know AMD has idiotic items like the Fire gpu's right?

and their autistic Titan-like GPUs which cost 8000 dollars and are slow as shit

>>60659100
Intel has $12000 CPUs and Nvidia has a $14000 GPU, why shouldn't AMD have its own $10000 one (Pro SSG prototype)

You're not buying any of this crap anyway, this is a market you have no clue about.

>>60658854
AMDs 16c will be clocked much higher at similar and sometimes higher ipc, with much better smt, much higher power efficiency and will be at the very least 30% cheaper. Sorry, Shlomo.

>>60658854
>with over 30% speed in gaming over AMD
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

It has ~25% higher single core performance. Not even close to the same thing. You're lucky to get 15 more FPS at 100+ FPS using a 1600X over a 7700K at 1080p 144hz.

>>60659085

It is the early to mid 1990s again.

Pentium Pro and Pentium II used to cost that much back "new" with 1990s USD......

>>60659256

>literally admits its 25+% faster
>somehow tries to spin this into being bad

literally AMD shills ladies and gentooman

>>60659304
Kill yourself.

>>60658854
Get your delid tools ready.

>>60658854
I don't have 2k for a fucking cpu. I'll take the ryzen 1600 over that anytime.

>>60659312

must be a liberal AMD user, wants anything he doesnt like to be shut down and killed

>>60658958
that image was made for the person who is trying to damage control the hardest when they post it desu

>>60659407
You know there's like 9 other threads on /g/ right now laughing at Intel, right? This is like the dedicated "Intel fanboys pretend they aren't getting shit all over" thread at the moment.

>>60659304
Nigger do you even understand what you read? He's saying that 25% increase in single core performance does not correspond to 25% overall performance increase. Consider the pricing of 7700k and 1600 and you got yourself annuda shoah

>>60658854
I need something that is better price per dollar than Ryzen, Intel isn't delivering.

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>>60659704
Are you retarded?

>>60660055
>gaming

>>60660055
There hasn't been a single instance of you posting that image where you didn't get obliterated, you dumb shit.

https://warosu.org/g/image/I_9PHYU2KVZ1-qkDbVY7ow

>>60660055
Oh good it's that stupid retard that posts the exact same series of misleading, cherrypicked benchmarks every fucking thread.
>>60660104
Now he's going to post the rest of them. lol

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>>60658854
>they actually went with the normie i9 meme

>>60660104
lmao he keeps changing the image but it doesn't help. Still have the old hashes

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/image/p0-QGx1IgmDgyFomlgZTBg/

>>60659256
>buying 18cores for gaymen

What kind of drooling idiot would even measure gaming with this?

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>>60658854
>>140 Watt TDP

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>>60660284
Did you mean 165W and even higher? They haven't even listed TDP for the 14-18 cores, lmao

>>60660229
He was talking about the 7700K there.

>>60659276
Except now I can buy a cluster of fx-8320e systems for the same price and have 5x the processing power.

>>60660055
plug the r5 1600x, 1600 and 1500x in there and see what happens.

>>60660430
one can get a fx-8320e and 990fx motherboard for $180
one 18 core intel or 10 complete fx-8320e machines
hmmmm

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH FOR BUYING RYPOO & POORIPPER GARBAGE

>>60660650
Funnily enough, even those 10 complete systems wouldn't burn your house down as fast as a single intel 18c clusterfuck cpu

>>60660763
Trolling, trolling, trolling. Keep those shill threads rolling, rawhide!

>>60660055
>Cost per FPS
i have yet to see a metric more retarded than this one

>>60658854
And your source is...

>>60661124
Just read any news outlet you autistic shitskin

>>60660055
Damn this shit site is full of kids, cost per FPS? what an infant

>>60658854
Once vega x threadripper are a thing no one with a brain will buy intel

>>60661204
Not sure about Vega, but threadripper should be renamed to Kikeripper

>>60658854
>they wont be soldered

housefire inc

delid this

>>60661220
Vega looks like R700 2.0 in every way possible, including pioneering new memory type into mass market.

>>60658854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nynBEGCtg90

>>60661244
Vega will be pretty good, but Nvidia is no slouch, and their marketing and mindshare is top notch.
AMD won't split Nvidia open like they did Intel.

>>60658854
>MUH GAYMS

Kys

>>60661220
>Kikeripper

I'm stealing this.

>>60661273
>AMD won't split Nvidia open like they did Intel.
Considering NVIDIA is turning into meme company? It's always possible.
>marketing and mindshare is top notch
Marketing? Not anymore. Mindshare works, yes.

>>60659370
You have to buy new one, got, old ones won't fit this new CPU, buy now!

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>>60658854
> $1999
>18 cores
Literally only useful for the same reason you would buy a titan x. Either to have the EPICEST GAYMER GEAR :DDD or if you're doing a lot of rendering/3d work. If I do animation work in Maya then having more cores would be great for rendering and the investment is worth it in the long run due to a faster work flow, but otherwise who the fuck is actually going to use 18 cores? Also didn't intelcucks laugh at amdbabies that "lmao amd just adds more cores, more cores doesn't make it better lololol!!" I guess now that Intel is going overboard with cores suddenly it's cool to have them now. :^)

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This is your space heater for today

>>60658854
>two grand

What happened to the "PC Gaming is affordable" idea?

Why is buying a "decent" processor and GPU as expensive if not more than buying multiple gaming consoles?

Is it even possible to do something as rudimentary as Overwatch 1080p 60fps for under 500 dollars without scavenging used parts, oddball clearance sales, or pirated software?

>>60663199
>"PC Gaming is affordable"
1600 says hello.

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>made irrelevant by toothpaste chips

I don't think so TIM

>>60663199
consoles run games at resolutions and settings you can achieve on $500 shitbox

>>60658854
God I can't wait until AMD is dead.

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>>60663673

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>>60660560
Uh oh, you're not gonna like it

It's hilarious how AMD fags are constantly trying to spin some bullshit, and then reality smacks them right back down to earth

>>60661112
You need a bit more context for it but the metric itself isn't retarded.

>>60663710
https://warosu.org/g/image/p0-QGx1IgmDgyFomlgZTBg

I don't remember a time where you posted this chart(or the other versions with a different hash) that you haven't gotten immediately obliterated.

>>60661298
>>60661244
Vega has some issues, it's likely not to be as good as a 1080 TI according to the metrics we've seen so far. It looks like it's gonna come close but it's not to beat it. And AMD beating it's really all anyone's going to hear.

In the pro-segment Nvidia has so much shit that's locked down proprietary along with ASIC devoted towards machine learning that we don't know how good it is currently. AMD needs to have the libraries there for their shit and they don't got anything yet and the days where AMD putting more RAM onto the GPU than Nvidia and being able to get more performance out of some of the more professional programs is gone. What the professional segment can do with the nvme bolted onto the back of the GPU I don't know, but it's interesting.

Drivers and how much they've alleviated bottlenecks are going to be the key difference in what makes AMD good or not good, and it seems like they're having issues with Vega's drivers. I don't know how much hope I should have for it even though I'm likely gonna get the GPU.

>>60663760
Facts hurt don't they

Go ahead and prove me wrong, I'll be waiting

>>60663633
the consoles are too cheap now to compete hardware wise, however, the fact I get almost any game for sub 10$ less than a year after release, while consoles are lucky to get games sub 10$ in the console's lifespan speaks volumes for which is cheaper.

besides, I consider a pc a necessity, and the part the makes it a 'gaming' pc just the gpu. and a 200-300$ gpu kicks the fucking shit out of the base one and 4,

Xeons can't compete with EBYN
i9 can't compete with THREADRIPPER

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>>60664024
>L2 cache

AMD fags are so pathetic, just grasping at straws now

>>60663808
witness this faggot, just called called out and still bent over his couch backwards for more AMD dick

>mfw $600 otacore has 31.25% less L3 cache than a $300 AMD octacore with the same GHz released like a year ago
>cucked again

>>60664088
>poojet deleted his comment in the other thread
amdshills at full force I see
also cache is not only about size, retard

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>>60664135
que?
The time taken to fetch one cache line from memory (read latency due to a cache miss) matters because the CPU will run out of things to do while waiting for the cache line. When a CPU reaches this state, it is called a stall. As CPUs become faster compared to main memory, stalls due to cache misses displace more potential computation; modern CPUs can execute hundreds of instructions in the time taken to fetch a single cache line from main memory.

Various techniques have been employed to keep the CPU busy during this time, including out-of-order execution in which the CPU (Pentium Pro and later Intel designs, for example) attempts to execute independent instructions after the instruction that is waiting for the cache miss data. Another technology, used by many processors, is simultaneous multithreading (SMT), or—in Intel's terminology—hyper-threading (HT), which allows an alternate thread to use the CPU core while the first thread waits for required CPU resources to become available.
>pic related

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>>60664135
Also you failed to make a point about how intel's slower processer is worth $300, or 2x more
>backwater scum still raging about his $1000 cpu purchase

>>60660055
>cost per FPS
>an i3, two i5s
Two of the CPUs have TWICE THE CORES

Who the fuck is working at PC Gamer, snowflakes?

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>commence the shill purge

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>>60664248
>those minimums

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>got ripped off $1000 for some bitchlake CPU a year ago
>sees THESE intel i9 specs
>pulls down trousers 1 year early in anticipation of kike dick

you cucks really are too much :')

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>>60663710
lmao not only did you post this earlier in the exact same thread but it's complete bullshit that gets BTFO every time you post it.

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>>60658901
>wagecucks coming out in force to defend AMD
>implying neetcucks can shell out $1999

>>60664544
the boys are conspicuous among the men

>irrelevant
intel new 8 cores for 600
flagship is more expensive, but the 10 core will be 700 cheaper.

and you should be thanking amd that intel is releasing an 18 cores now.

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>>60664811
That 18 core is going to run at some pitiful base clockspeed. Like 2.8 GHz or something. The 10 core is already down to a measly 3.3 GHz. Intel's architecture can't scale for shit.

>>60663094
1.7v to get to 4.4GHz? Sounds bad

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>>60660763

This thread is a perfect example of why we need per-thread IDs on /g/.

One shitposter (95% chance it's the tripfag !BE/4wes0mE) is shilling for Intel and making inane stupid posts when anything is posted that disproves his shill arguments.

>>60663094
L M A O
M
A
O

It's barely faster than a 6950X, which is not that much faster than an 1800X. It's going to get absolutely destroyed by the 12-core Threadripper.

What a fucking joke.

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>>60663710

>>60663094
>1.76V on an Intel CPU to get 4.4GHz
That's fucking abysmal if the reading is correct and Intel haven't pulled some magic out of their ass to make such voltages normal.

They only put out an 18-core to win the corars game. Clockspeed wise it's going to be a pile of shit. Can't wait for ZEN on 14nm+ to put the last intlet into their place once and for all.

>>60663094
>1.764V
That better be incorrect, holly shit.

>>60663710
I like it quite a lot.
Only intel drones would buy 7600k tier cpus

>>60662458
Running simulations too.

>>60663094
>Multi Thread Ratio 9.87
>Clock speed down so much in heavy load it doesn't even achieve a ratio superior to its core count.
>With hyperthreading.
>That's only the 10 core variant.

Imagine killing a 2 grand CPU because you were trying to apply a thermal paste that does not cost five dollars per kilogram

>>60663094
No point upgrading if you have the 7700k or 6700k.

Intel dropping the ball

>>60666233
>no point upgrading from 4 cores if you need 10+ cores

I'm sorry but you're retarded.

>>60666246
>implying you need more than 4 cores

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>>60658854
>$1999

>>60666253
4 cores have shit amount of lanes and are practically useless for throughput

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>>60666215

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>>60666215
>Imagine
But we won't have to. The future is now.

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>>60666253
Your tears are DELICIOUS :^)

the 7820x is interesting but that's about it

t. poor i guess

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>>60666307
Why? It's not going to be any faster than an 1800x and it's $600.

>>60664183
Damn it really should be called stutter lake.
;^)

>>60662458

It is a server-tier chip. You are hard pressed to find a workload use more than 10-12 cores in workstation environment. Clockspeed starts to matter more than just increasing core-count.

7980-XE is just for fools with deep pockets that don't understand a thing about computing and think bigger number = better!

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>>60658854

>Intel's Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X CPUs will not be soldered
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_s_skylake-x_and_kaby_lake-x_cpus_will_not_be_soldered/1

>With Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X, Intel has decided to use a thermal compound/thermal interface material (TIM) to transfer heat from the CPU to the CPU's integrated heat spreader (IHS), allowing Intel to save time and money when manufacturing these new CPUs.

>The problems that arise from using non-soldered CPUs occur because the TIM used by Intel will not have the same thermal conductivity as a directly soldered CPU, which will cause Intel's CPUs to run hotter, especially when overclocked.


>This is the first time that Intel has not soldered their high-end desktop CPUs, a move which will no doubt force overclockers to delid their "premium" CPU in order to achieve the same thermal efficiency as Intel's last generation hardware. This move will no doubt be seen negatively by PC enthusiasts, especially after they learn how expensive a proper delidding tool can be.

These things are going to be housefires beyond all reckoning.

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>>60666466
Nice thing about Zen is that it can scale cores with the same clockspeed no problem. Seperate dies and CCX are pretty amazing.

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>>60666543

>>60664544
Was there anyone more based than cato "no fuck that nigger ceasar" the younger during that time period?

>>60663199
Unless you're some sort of pleb that only uses a phone, you subtract the cost of what you would have otherwise paid for a computer.

If you were going to spend $400 on a computer and $300 on a console, you buy a $700 computer and get a way better experience.

>>60660087
Better get used to it. Gaming is the only think keeping desktops alive. No gaming, you're looking at 95% of the market disappearing in favor of phones and tablets.

>165w + cheap TIM forced to water cool $2000 2.3 clock speed

Where do I sign up it's time for a new house anyway

>>60667345
Ah yes, office and workstations don't exist.

>>60667421
>not editing all of your work files on a tiny phone keyboard with an app that has less features than Office 2003

PFFT, get with the times grandpa.

>>60667345
Don't make fucking numbers up which are easily googleable, if that was the case then gaming GPU revenue should be similar to desktop CPU revenue, guess what? It's about 4 times lower, indicating GPUs are sold much less quantities than CPUs, which implies gaming is in fact not 95% of the fucking market.

>>60658876
>>60658881
I was honestly quite disappointed with AMD's Ryzen 7 line because of it's pricing. AMD used to be a budget brand. As they very plainly say in their financial presentations, they no longer care about that market and are primarily targeting the high-margin high-end market segments and mid-range is an afterthought. They haven't even bothered with any Ryzen R3's (yet).

Now this $1999 Intel CPU comes along. Who cares, seriously, if you're a Hollywood film studio who needs one for making some new movie then I get it but for the vast majority it's just a yawn.

We're not talking about a car that runs on water or something revolutionary, it's a CPU.

>>60667345
>Pc market disappears
>productivity drops 75% as Excel is now a tablet app.

I've already seen it happen at my bank office.
Literally dropped the good old counter for walking around with tablets.
It's a fucking mess. Nobody fucking knows what's going on, where they should wait, and if the personnel has even acknowledged their presence.
Agents can't even look at you, as they're too busy taking way too much time executing basic actions on their shitty tablet.

>>60667543
That's a very foolish bank. Customer service is still important. If you can't service your customers properly they'll move money to another bank.

>>60667555
Well I still owe them moneys, so I can't just leave it like that.
I'd say the concept works ok outside rush hours.
I wouldn't want to be one of them agents, though.
They spend their whole day standing, which much be a massive health hazard.
Maybe (((management))) thought they could make a buck by getting rid of chairs or something.

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>>60667345