https://videocardz.com/69900/exclus ive-intel-to-launch-18-c

>>60640982
oh look, ANOTHER FUCKING THREAD ABOUT THIS, JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE BEING BTFO IN THE PREVIOUS ONE

>>>/g/thread/60639950

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>i9
>intel investor's faces when
Why do they have to be so shit at branding

>>60640982
>non-soldered HEDT chips
INTEL OVENLAKE CONFIRMED

>>60640982
>165w TDP
Shit stock clocks and overclocking it will turn it into a housefire beyond anything seen before. Their current 18c chips are 2.2ghz stock with a 3ghz turbo, and god help you if you use AVX512.

>>60640982

Hahaha watching the Intel damage control over the internet is hilarious.

> M-muh 28 Intel cores is b-better than AMD 32 cores!
> AMD lying about TDP! Intel is actually more power efficient goy
> AMD is NUMA garbage we swear!
> P-please buy our house fires ;_;

Also pricing leaked in Thailand:

INTEL i9-7920X - 12c/24t @ 2.90GHz (No turbo listed) - 160W.
L2 CACHE -12 x 256KB
L3 CACHE - 16.5MB
£1300 + VAT / $1671

INTEL i9-7900X - 10c/20t @ 3.30/4.50GHz - 160W
L2 CACHE - 10 x 256KB
L3 CACHE - 13.75MB
£855 + VAT / $1099

INTEL i9-7820X - 8c/16t @ 3.60/4.20GHz - 140w
L2 CACHE - 8 x 256KB
L3 CACHE - 11MB
£515 + VAT / $659

INTEL i9-7800X - 6c/12t @ 3.50/4.00GHz - 140W
L2 CACHE - 6 x 256KB
L3 CACHE - 8.25MB
£345 + VAT / $439

> https://gameolo.com/product-category/คอมประกอบ/cpu/cpu-intel?orderby=price-desc

18c CPU gonna be ~$2.2k I think, maybe more as the flagship.

>>60642755
Their architecture scales terribly. I don't know why anyone thought this would turn out differently other than fanboys and retards.

>12c 2.9ghz
>18c 2.7ghz
DOA.

>>60642755
Ridiculous.
Intel wouldn't do this.

>>60642755

>those prices for chips with such limited I/O

If they slashed £100 off each one then we'd be talking about a real zen competitor.

>>60640982
>intelposting on an LGBTGAYMD board

s-stop!

We need these poor suckers to buy the AMD stuff so we can keep Intel/nVidia prices low.

>>60642854

Ryzen has fucking great scaling. Isn't it something like ~98-100%? I think I remember reading somewhere that their SMT is actually >100% scaling with cores in some use cases. I want to see these MCM benchmarks.
Infinity fabric is looking to be AMDs holy grail for the next while. I wonder what improvements they can do to it in the future.

>>60642755
Cache sizes are wrong.

>>60642913
yeah, intel buffed L2 caches a lot for memeX512

>>60642905

1:1 with ram speeds unlike half rate it runs on the ryzen chips. Infinity fabric running at 2133mhz (or potentially higher depending on if anyone makes a superfast ECC kit) would give shitloads of bandwidth which makes MOAR COARS even better.

>>60642919
>meme512
Nothing uses it.

>>60642881

100 off each of the 6c and 8c would worry me as AMD, but Intel is going to have to cut much more off their 10c/12c/18c if they want to sell them at all. I'm expecting the cheapest 16c Threadripper around the price of that i9-7900x (~$1000), with the flagship 16c around $1400. Witch how well Zen scales and how Intel chips scale comparatively, at those prices 10c/12c/18c SKLX is DOA.

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>>60642755
>L3 CACHE - 16.5MB
That's all?!

>>60642965
It has 1mb L2@core for meme512.

>>60642946

>100 off each of the 6c and 8c would worry me as AMD

AMD should be fucking worried about that possibility. It is one thing to pick a fight in the desktop space where Intel doesn't give a fuck but it is another to go starting a war in the data centre- Intel will play really nasty there. Given Intel can afford to make monster monolithic dies for the big boys that AMD has no answer to and give hte cut down scraps to everyone else AMD sure as fuck better be out for blood - now everyone is playing for keeps.

>>60642994
>AMD should be fucking worried about that possibility
Why? X299 mobos still start at $200.

>>60640982
we should all be happy. we're finally going to get competitive processors now

>>60643017
>competitive
These are rebranded 1S Xeons, in no way they can compete against higher clocked Threadrippers.

>>60643011

At this sort of level motherboard cost is basically irrelevant - its all about I/O and performance.

>>60643038
Then Threadripper wins, no contest.

>>60643017
there is zero competition here anon, Intel is releasing super expensive nuclear holocausts while amd is releasing good processors for a sensible price

>>60643035
i'm talking about the lower end 4c/6c/8c ones. looks like they'll all come with hyperthreading

>>60643058
Why the fuck would you buy overpriced HEDT platform to use 4c/6c/8c shit? 4c abortions have no lanes, and 6c/8c is limited to 28 lanes only. Its shit.

>>60642994

I don't think Intel can compete in Data center until they pull out a new arch or unless they change their pricing/segmentation/performance drastically.
People have been getting fucked over my Intels segmentation for a long time. 1/3 of 2S Intel servers are only populated by 1 CPU because of how Intel segments their chips. These companies just need I/O, not a 2S solution. Epyc provides a shit ton of I/O/power efficiency/compute power, on a single socket.
Also, to the monolithic die argument, Intel CAN make fuck huge dies, but they are not cheap to make, yields on those get worse and worse. Epyc is made up of 4 8c Zepplin dies. The yields are >80% for those things. AMD can mix and match the binned chips so you can have 32c Epyc chips that sip power or ones that clock up to 4GHz all core at a decent voltage+temp. All while being cheaper to produce, and probably better than what ever monolithic die Intel comes up with.

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>>60642755
Pathetic lineup and pricing if it's real. Can't wait to see Intel get btfo on price-performance ratio.

>>60643155
>inb4 all reviewers forget to include price to performance ratio in all of their reviews

>>60643185
>inb4 reviewers compare those things with consumer ryzens while omitting price

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>>60642994
>monster monolithic dies
Are obsolete garbage.

>>60643214
>inb4 all reviewers forget to include threadrippers in all of their reviews
>>60643235
This looks cute.

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>>60640982
>>60641095
>>60642755
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH THE SECOND SHOAH HAS BEGUN!!!!!! GET IN THE OVEN YOU FUCKING KIKETEL SHEKELCHASERS

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>>60642755
>Those specs for DOAlake-X
>Those prices for DOAlake-X
LMAO

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>>60642994
Yes, AMD should be very worries about Intel selling CPUs at a loss at prices where AMD still makes a profit because of their 80% yields.

Gas yourself.

>>60642755
hmm that's i9-7820X seems like a good upgrade from 4790k

>>60642755
>INTEL i9-7820X - 8c/16t @ 3.60/4.20GHz - 140w
>L3 CACHE - 11MB

that's half the cache of 5960x/6900k
........................................................

Threadripper, more like bedshitter.

>>60643589
they increased L2 cache for memex512 while destroying the L3

>>60643589
It has 4 times L2@core.

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>18 cores

hwhy?

>>60643623
You gotta sell these 1S Xeons to someone. EPYC made them irrelevant.

>>60642931
AVX512 has recently been added to X264

>>60643678
What about 99% of the other software?

>>60643678
AVX512 is still limited to ONLY Xeon Phi's, so I really doubt that.

>>60643751
Skylake-X/EP has AVX512 support, fuck me, they even changed the cache hierarchy for that.

>>60643779
https://www.videohelp.com/software/x264-Encoder/version-history
Isn't this it?

Different thread... Same sequence of responses with identical posts. I think we're stuck in a timeline bo-yohs.

>>60643779

That is because Intel are now being fucked on both fronts - AMD is rapidly closing in and GPUs (i.e Nvidia in this case) are fucking annihilating cpus in a lot of very lucrative markets right now. I'm convinced AVX2 exists because Intel can't build a gpu for shit and have nothing else they can do to answer the massive threat they represent.

>>60643779
Which isn't even out yet..?

>>60643804
Looks like only preliminary support.

>>60640982
AMDrones BTFO!

Timeloop thread

>>60643509
>good upgrade from 4790k
If you are looking for something htat doubles as a space heater, that is

Brilliant, adding more cores!
Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?

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>>60643919
>KEKEDRIPPER
KIKEDESTROYER

>>60642755
>12 core
>2.90 Ghz
dead on arrival, only good one here is the 8 core processor at 4.2 ghz.

>>60643980
> 8 core processor at 4.2 ghz.
That's singlecore turbo.

I SAW THIS SAME EXACT THREAD BEFORE!!! ACSENSION TO GODMODE CONFIRMED. WORSHIP ME CRETINS I FORESEE THE FUTURE

>>60643987
then what do the other 7 cores run at?

if it isnt all 8 cores at 4.2 then its garbage.

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>>60643509
>Paying $659 for 8c/16t 3.60/4.20ghz
>Instead of $489 for 8c/16t 3.60/4.0ghz
Why don't you just donate money to Intel directly at that point?

>>60644000
>then what do the other 7 cores run at?
Hidden all core turbo clock, which is probably 200mhz higher than base.

>>60644002
Because intel is times better an single threaded performance
plus $200 is nothing at least for me considering I'll have to buy new ram and mobo too

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>>60644028
>MFW kiketel shekelchasers can't even speak English.

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>>60640982
>>60641095
>>60642898
>>60643596
>>60643852
>>60644028
All these kiketel tears and damage control attempts.

>>60644036
typo
at*
you're pretty mad amdead

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>>60644037

play tuxcart faggots.

>>60640982
oh god, how many watts is this one going to be?

500W TDP here we come?

>>60643082
As temporal solution until expensive cpu? Like people buing g4560 with z270 board until 7700k.

>>60644162
Sounds motherfucking retarded.

>>60644182
Yes. Doesn't change the fact that there are people like that.

>new socket
>le based xD
go FUCK yourself intel

>>60644127
I don't think my thinkpad can run that smoothly

>>60644213
Have you tried though? It doesn't take much to run, and it's completely worth it.

>>60644213
The only Linux game I ever had issues on was flightgear.

>>60644236
Well, alright I'll install it. Then what?
>>60644251
Right

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>>60644213

>>60644257
>Then what?

Report in this thread if it runs, and play it forever.

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>>60644048
Why would I need to be mad? Intel just BTFO'd themselves totally and completely from the HEDT market with this complete joke of a release.

I'm just here for the shekelchaser tears :^)

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>>60644036

>>60644287
T61 with X3100 werks at lowest settings 30fps with native (1280x800) resolution
Bretty gud and ebin game :D
Do people play this online?

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>>60644517
I'll allow you to deduce for yourself the implications for the single threaded performance of a 3.6ghz base clock 4.2ghz single core turbo Intel CPU vs a 3.6ghz base clock and 4.0ghz all core turbo Ryzen CPU.

>>60644567
Oh I'm not that anon I was just pointing out that your post was stupid.

I'm not shilling for either intel or amd myself, and I'm not really interested in random benchmark screenshots when each side has an equally large collection of ones that prove their superiority and always accuse the other of doctoring and rigging.

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>>60644615
That's right! Since evidence doesn't prove anything you can choose to believe whatever you want!

>>60644530
>Bretty gud and ebin game :D

Very nice

>Do people play this online?

I haven't tried online myself, so I really can't say. SP is fun though, and it's 100% free. There's also a 2d shooter that's insanely satisfying to play, but I forgot the name. Sauerbraten maybe?

>>60644810
Post hardware configuration, and software settings with benchmarks then.

>>60644028
The single threaded on all those HEDT abominations is going to blow compared to their 4 cores. You're delusional if you think otherwise. And it's not $200, more like $400 once you add in the cost difference between the CPU and motherboard combined.

>>60645204
Sauerbraten is goat
Red Eclipse was pretty fun as well, what with the whole freerun thing

>>60644028
>Because intel is times better an single threaded performance
I assume you meant "several times" or maybe "a million billion times" there, which is laughable because in real world benchmarks they are at most 25% ahead with their 4 cores compared to Ryzen 8 cores. With 8 cores you're looking at maybe 12.5% ahead.

>>60643323
thats not an oven, its your average amd build

>>60645339
2011 wants their memes back.

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>CPU market finally has competition
>/g/ decides to fanboy it up

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>>60645339
MOAR COARZ!
MOAR BINGBUS!
MOAR BIBELINES!
MOAR TDP!
MOAR JIGGAWATZ!

>>60644810
>pic
>damage control
I already said I'm not shilling either way, what damage would I have to control?

Anyway I keep seeing "evidence" that proves that AMD is completely BTFO and ryzen is an utter meme compared to intel's cpus. Since according to you random benchmarks are irrefutable evidence, that clearly means that AYYYMD WILL NEVER RECOVER, BTFO!!!!.

When I actually want to upgrade my CPU I will do some research and find actually trustworthy evidence. One thing these shill threads did was make me doubt Intel, so I'll definitely be considering AMD when that time comes. Until then, I can't be bothered to form an opinion.

>>60645230
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-1700x-benchmarks-leaked-beats-kaby-lake-ipc/

>>60645498
Wcctech "leaked" benches were already proven to be false on release date.

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>>60645498
>>60645523
There's a much more accurate real-world IPC comparison on here. http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-4-core-benchmarks-intel-core-i7-7700k/

>>60645548
>accurate
>wcctech

Pick one.

>>60645580
Look at their source, then. http://www.zolkorn.com/en/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-mhz-by-mhz-core-by-core-en/view-all/

FASTER RAM = FASTER RYZEN

>>60640982
I bet even the 4-core ones will cost $50 more than the 7700K. If I was rich, i would be team Intel all the way

>>60645361
For crying out loud, even this sites admin (moot) got hurt when everyone was shitting on him for using Fermi.
It's just part of the experience of getting butthurt.

>>60640982

thank you based Intel

thank you

THANKS INTEL, WE ON /G/ THANK YOU

>>60642965
L2 cache 12mb, L3 16.5mb

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>>60645487
>>60645523
>>60645580
Yup, totally unbiased you are.

Don't worry though, when the 7820X gets released and loses to an 1800x in literally every measure you will be seeing LOTS of benchmarks about it :^)

>>60642755
>uk pricing
keked hard
also wrong about details you massive AMD cuck

>>60646028
Please tell me which way I am biased

>>60640982

If I were a Rajeet I probably would shit up the next street and then kill myself because I bought AM4 + Ryzen but still in debt.

>>60640982
>Intel announces 18 core ring bus monstrosity
>AMD: Yeah we're just going to put the 24 and 32 core chips on SP3r2 now.
>Intel can't respond
Not to mention AMD will still be cheaper due to fabrication costs of Intel. :^)

>>60646064
SKL-X uses KNL mesh interconnect though.

So Intels LGA 2066 has same dimensions as LGA 2011 no need to buy different CPU coolers.

AMD with Threadripper needs a special one? How do you cool that thing exactly there is nothing on the market for their new socket.
Is it gonig to be another delay of everything and please rebuy SecuFirm2 expensive mounting kits edition.

>>60646115
> AMD with Threadripper needs a special one?
Yes, it's a gigantic 4094 pins socket.

Anyone know if these are supported on windows 7?

>>60646127
Probably not, but I'm interested in knowing as well.

Who cares about i9 vs Threadripper, really?
How many people are actually going to buy them? I won't. You won't. The market segment we're talking about here is >5%. It's just a profit-margin-fest for AMD and Intel.

I'm much more interested in Coffee Lake personally. You know, the chips people are actually going to be buying.

>>60646125
fuck this shit

>>60646167
>I'm much more interested in Coffee Lake personally.
>overpriced 1600
Meh, i'll pass.
>>60646169
You don't like big sockets?

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>>60646167
>Who cares about this market segment now that Intel is getting BTFO's the fuck out
Your tears are delicious.

>>60646179
>>overpriced 1600
>Meh, i'll pass.
Tell me more about the future.

>>60646179
>You don't like big sockets?
it's not about liking them or not. I cba buying new expensive coolers made for this, unavailable across the board just like it was with AM4 and their required mounting kits.

>>60642755
What's with the retarded L3 figures anyway?

>>60646224
They changed cache hierarchy for meme512. Now it's 1mb L2@core.

>>60646192
More coarz = lower clocks. Now do the math.

>>60646259
That's some power of deduction right there. I didn't know that CPU architecture development could be boiled down that succinctly. I can only assume this is the degree in electrical engineering talking.

>Intel AVX-512
>AMD no AVX-512

always behind always late
keep me up to date
with the toilets
I try Rajeets to persuade

>>60646313
AMD has GPUs, anon. They don't need to produce housefire-enabling vector extensions to compete with them.

>>60646028
1800x doesn't even beat current offerings. It beats intel mainstream in multiplecore, and is competitive with a stock clock 6800k in all respects at stock clocks, but all benchmarks that have RYZEN winning are when intel CPUs are gimped, and RYZEN are paired with fastest memory that works, or with obscure software with weird settings.

Bacon

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>>60646390

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>>60646390
>>60646412

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>>60646390
>>60646425

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>>60646390
>>60646432

>>60646337
Called my local insurance office they said multiple houses burned down by Intel CPUs got their house and money back plus Intel gave free upgrade for their new builds. On the other hand housefires caused by AMD CPUs or GPUs left a terrible poo smell which led to no money or house but death insurance company.

>>60646412
>>60646425
>>60646432
>>60646446

>0.133395 Rupees added to your pre-paid card
keep up the good work Punjab

>>60646337
>AMD has GPUs, anon
edgy

>>60640982
>THREADRIPPER MOAR LIKE KEKEDRIPPER
made me kek

thank you Intel

>>60646406
WHOA

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>>60646571
Shekelchasers so BTFO they can't even pretend to counter argue :^)

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>>60646313
Ah yes, that's why Xeon Phi's have sold so well :^)

>>60646665
>current state of a paid shill
lol

>>60643374
>actualy believing this
top kek

>>60640982
>Intel, 165w and 140w
>AYYMD FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

>165W, 140W
>more wattage to power moar BIBELINES

please enlighten me on how AMD is going to get BTFO with these stats?

>>60643919
>yfw went from buying a used Sandy Bridge to buying a used Skylake
Feelsgoodmane

>>60646571
>"this is older model, just wait for i9"
See? It's not that hard to at least pretend that you have arguments, instead of shitting up threads.

>>60646732
here is your argument
>>60646390

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>>60646699
M C M
C
M

>>60646412
>>60646425
>>60646432
>>60646446
What happens when you oc all CPUs, and memory, or add multiple gpus? Do Intel house fire while amd dominate, or does the harsh reality sink in where you realize that there was no room in this world for sitzendozer 2?

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>>60646756
>Shekelchasers with the goalposts

>>60646754
Here's yours:
>>60646412
>>60646425
>>60646432
>>60646446

Bacon

>>60646776
AMD posters and the awful cherrypicks.

>he bought Ryzen

top ten cringe betrayals

Thank you Intel for Skylake-X and superior performance. Thank you Nvidia for the best GPUs. Thank you for shitting on the worthless competition like AMD. Thanks.

>>60646756
Feel free to go find the benchmarks where a 6900k beats the 1800x overall, and if it does beat the 1800, by enough to justify the $500 price difference.

I'll wait.

>>60640982
What is the big deal?

These have been a thing for quite a while already:
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78585/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-v3-Family

Now we even have available already:
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/93797/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-v4-Family

And the Xeons support multiple sockets.

>>60646805

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>>60646805
>Four independent sources of evidence across dozens of applications
>Cherry picking
Pick one and only one.

>>60646754
I wouldn't call 5% better performance with 50% more TDP and having double the price "beating".

>>60646782
those aren't arguments

>>60646816
They're all the that ones you avoided to post anon.

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>>60646837
Prove it, shekelchaser.

>>60646827
>cherry picking

And it's too obvious.

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>>60646051
>>60646313
>>60646390
>>60646571
>>60646687
>>60646756
>>60646805
>>60646811
>>60646834
>>60646837
The tears won't stop.

>>60640982
>S 2066
>Pretty much the same specs as 2011v3
A socket a year keeps the goyim in fear

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really, intel?
memes?

>>60646853
I'm laughing at your existence. Not all of those are mine thou.

>>60646853
>tears

I bought Intel though, and haven't had issues yet. Returned my Zendozer in April.

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>>60646870
>>60646887

>>60646895
>>60646901
>>60646916

>he keeps posting his anti Intel collection
I wonder what autism is behind those images. You spend so much of your free time editing and trying this hard but in the end you are just a AMD shitter.
Amazing really.

>>60646901
>>60646916
No u

>>60643828
Also the ARM CPUs are approaching in the (ultra) mobile segment - now with a better Windows support. I suppose that the cheapest laptops will soon have ARM CPUs.

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>>60646922
Who's more pathetic, the guy defending a bloated lazy multibillion dollar corporation found guilty of playing dirty and fined billions, or the guy laughing at him?

>>60646922

He is from wccftech disqus forums. Plenty of those failures like this there and I visited their website only twice. They have like 10k comments and every single one is how bad Intel is.

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>>60646922
It's so heartwarming seeing how enfeebled you shekelchasing shitposters have become.

>>60646953
>Who's more pathetic

AMD is the only real answer to this.

>>60646962
You mean braintrusts like Jay Jardin who are the equivalent of IMG_xxxx in terms of raw stupidity over here? lol

>>60646953
>>60646963
it's okay shitter keep shitting up the thread we all know AMD is worthless and your autistic screeching won't make anyone buy their products anyway

>>60646962
Nope. I've never even bought an AMD product in my life, I just annoyed by the anti-AMD shitposters who have been ruining CPU and GPU discussions here for months, so it amuses me to collect their tears now

>>60646313

When you have projects like glibc disabling AVX-512 for AVX-256 because of better performance due to frequency advantages for the later, then AVX-512 (at least Intel's implementation) isn't very good.

>>60647011
This guy makes sense.

>>60647038
>I've never even bought an AMD product in my life

This is pure gold

>>60647011
It's an "Intel releases underclocked overpriced binned-to-shit rejected Xeon housefires" thread. What else is there to do? Intel's HEDT platform is a joke.

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>>60647011
AMD doesn't need any help in that regard :^)

>>60647087
It's shit, but that's what happens when there's no competition. I wish IBM got back in the game with equal priced power based CPUs then we as consumers wouldn't be in this situation.

>>60647079
Well, I won't be in the market for a new PC until next year, by which time Zen2 on IBM's 7nm clock friendly process will be out and Intel is probably stuck stroking their dicks until 2021, so it doesn't look like it's going to be much of a contest.

>>60647120
.5 popularity lead vs years old 6900k
>AMD doesn't need any help
you need sales and professional help
but keep your delusions up and while you are at it compare it with the i7's and i5's devastating AMDs holes

Thank you Intel

>>60646127
Microsoft would stop supporting Windows 7 right now if they could get away from it. I wouldn't be surprised if new GPUs just stopped working with it.

>>60647245
Makes sense. AMD always has a tasty looking carrot dangling. Too bad they shit the bed on actual releases.

>>60646887
Ah, so you have braindamage.

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>>60647342
>.5 popularity lead vs years old 6900k
Obtained in four months :^)

intel's going to break the 2k usd ordinary consumer limit.

>>60647482
For keeping the CPU that had no issues? Seems retarded don't it...

Forgot what I came here to do.

>>60646922
he's an amd user, what do you expect?

>>60647514
Don't worry, no one is actually going to buy any of them anyway.

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>>60647608
that will teach those amd shills

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>>60647658
NOOOOOOOOO

>>60647433
Please explain exactly how AMD "Shit the bed" on Ryzen's release without bringing up the usual crap that always happens with a new architecture launch.

>unironically wanting more bingbus

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>>60646922
>>60646962
>>60646992
>>60647011
>>60647079
>>60647342
>>60647581
>>60647608
Intel is shitting out more HEDTurds and nothing you say will change it, lol.

Why would I ever buy threadripoff when the glorious mega-tasking i9 series exists?

>>60648449
(you)

>>60648449
maybe you dont want to spend $3000 on a 165W cpu with cheap TIM that will burn down your house

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THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE

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>>60648449
Self preservation

>>60647245
Zen3 is out in 2019.

>>60649853
Zen2 is 7nm on IBM's process and is already taped out, looks like they are going to skip Zen+ and bring the full shoah a year early :^)

http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-7nm-products-will-tape-year-zen-2-navi/

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Enjoy your corez now Shintellets

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>>60652105

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>>60652105
>>60652132

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>>60652105
How many centishekels could they possibly be saving by not soldering their highest core count housefires? At what point does the PR benefit of providing a complete fit and finish for your halo consumer parts finally outweigh the razor thin profit margin from smearing cum on your processors?

>>60640982
ummmmm dude? you do know AMD can release a 32-core that will fit in the sp3 socket right?

>own 4790k since 2014
>want to upgrade
>all upgrade paths look like shit

>>60652239
i only just realised, thats a cpu on a gpu card

>>60654919
I'm on 4670k and I hate how I have to get rid of the motherboard, ram and probably the heatsink too.

>>60654940
original image is nvidia.

>>60652378
If you consider the amount of money they stand to not lose by not having to honor consumer rights when some poor shmuck delids a chip and then 6 months down the line discovers the chip was actually faulty and would never survive through the entire warranty period?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11470/intel-computex-2017-press-conference-live-blog

>02:33AM EDT - Now, Intel promises that the upcoming 8th generation Core i-series CPUs will offer a 30% improvement in performance over existing chips. They are demonstrating a laptop running the chip, so, it looks like they are primarily talking about mobile CPU performance increase.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>60640982
>only ten trillion shekels
AMD bankrupted, most definitely.

>>60654991

Looks like the whole thing was confirmed at the conference at Computex. No pricing obviously, but seems like the consumer CPU market is heating up.

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Did I hear someone drop a penny?

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>>60655193
>seems like the consumer CPU market is heating up
Specially on Intel's side.

>>60643955
CERTIFIED

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i5-2500k is now OBSOLETE

HAHAHAH JUST KIDDING, CPU UPGRADE KEKS ARE LIKE AUDIOPHILES. SO CRISP SO CLEAN, WINZIP HAS NEVER BEEN FASTER
HAHAHHAHA

>>60650192
Samsung says 2019 and AMD doesn't have their own fabs.

>>60657045
Because they're using GloFo, which says 2018

>>60642755
What will be even funnier is when AMD just adds another 8 core CCX to bring out a 24 core consumer processor, rather than some botched server rebrand like Intel is doing.

Zen architecture scales perfectly, they can just keep adding more 8 core CCXs, with great yields and for cheap.

Intel is royally fucked.

>>60642994
>can afford to make monster monolithic dies for the big boys that AMD has no answer to

Have you been living under a rock? The Zen architecture scales ridiculously, you can just keep adding more 8 core CCXs and weld them together, it's much cheaper and they have much better yields.

Intel has to print one huge die at a time, and if any of the cores have flaws, they have to scrap it, or cut it down to a lower core variant.

AMD will probably come out with 48 core and 64 core server variants soon, and Intel won't be able to keep up. I'm sure AMD probably has patents on connecting CCXs in the Zen fashion too.

>>60657141
>>60657101
There's no such thing as a 8 core CCX, only a 4 core CCX.

Zeppelin is two 4 core CCXs

>>60646412
HAHAHAHAHA
>$500 1800X comparable to a $1500 6950X

WHO THE FUCK PAYS FOR THIS SHIT?

What kind of brain dead fanboy do you have to be to get ripped off so badly?

Guys.. Guys... Intel is fucking up so hard we have to start shilling for them otherwise an AMD monopoly will form

>>60657160
hmm I was under the impression that threadripper had two 8 core units welded together

>>60657179
It has two zeppelin dies strapped together.
Which makes it 4 CCX

>>60643048
Remember Ryzen has 6 and 8 core CPUs in its lineup. If the motherboard to use Intel's 6 and 8 core are bare minimum $200 and likely close to $400 for something worth a damn, Intel's not competing with Ryzen.

Once you go past state cores this is where Intel will compete with threadripper, and at its base Threadripper's 16 core could come in at little under $700. Don't get me wrong I think that's unrealistic and were looking closer to $1000 at minimum, but this is where it gets interesting. AMD has a lot of room where they can play around with pricing just completely butt fuck Intel's i9 series. The main factor that determines what AMD sets Threadripper at is how much they want to fuck Intel.

>>60646699
How much money does Intel actually have in its war funds. I know they pissed a fuck ton of money away on shitty acquisitions that gave them nothing. Modestly wondering how much Intel could actually fight if they went into a price war, because Intel would be selling at a loss to set their CPUs that AMD prices, but AMD's making a fuck on a profit per CPU sold.

>>60643828
AMD is currently noncompetitive and GPU front. For consumer GPU's they'll likely be price-performance, but I'm not holding out hope for them being better than that Nvidia's offerings. Long-term probably better but not better up front.

In the professional space Nvidia has so much shit lockdown on proprietary software that AMD can't just barge in without their own, and to my understanding AMD doesn't have their own libraries yet which is an active detriment to them. There was a point in time when Nvidia was skimping on the RAM on their professional GPU's so AMD's were far more useful because they give you 16 GB of RAM. Nvidia stopped skimping and that pretty much eroded any advantage AMD had.

I don't know how useful having the nvme on the card itself is cache is gonna work out, it probably gives them a huge advantage in certain scenarios but it's not to be an overall win. With Volta it appears that Nvidia is putting on an asic for machine learning and this erodes any advantage AMD was going to come out of the gate having with 16-bit floating-point performance.

CPU wise AMD's clearly ahead of Intel and Intel doesn't have an answer for the next 3 to 5 years, but GPU wise AMD's hurting until they can figure out how to MCM a GPU and have it all work within firmware instead of relying on developers to make software patches.

>>60642978
When one megabyte L2 be really good for a lot of different applications? And correct me if I'm wrong but this is the reason why there is xeons with the shit ton of L2 cash that cost of fuck load that are segmented away from the consumer CPUs even though spec wise outside of the L2 they're basically the same.