Is $100 worth an upgrade from 8 GB to 16 GB of soldered RAM?

What are you using it for anon?

>>60609636
mostly programming. honestly I've never come close to using 8 in my previous notebook but $100 is not bad so something that's permanent

>>60609622
If it's just a fap station or a 4chan machine, 8 is plenty.

I have 8 GB, play games, host a Plex server, run GIMP. Never had a RAM issue.

The real question is why are you disrespecting yourself and telling manufactures that you're okay with anti-consumer practices like soldered-on RAM and storage?

Do you hate freedom, Anon?

>>60609662
Depending on what IDE you use you might just top out 8GB fairly easy. $100 is a decent price for future proofing your laptop.

>>60609622
No. Get a laptop with DIMM slots or don't even bother.

>>60609685
>>60609688
I don't game and I tend to stay away from hefty IDEs unless I have to use them. Android studio (intelliJ) is probably the biggest one I use regularly

Although I do run a VM every once in a while... Plus the fact it might add to the value of the laptop when I sell it in 4 years or so. Do you think 16 will be the new 8 in 4 years?

How can you idiots live with 16 or even less wtf

>>60609849
What do you need more than 8 for

>>60609849
go do some "real computing" and make a new tripcode, gnu/jordan.

>>60609866
for using chrome

>>60609849
What the fuck do you need 16 GBs of RAM for?
Unless you're gonna /3/, /v/, watch porn and shitpost on 4chan at the same time.

I may run a VM from time to time but even it's only for one or two programs. I guess I'll just go with 8

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>>60609622
>He doesn't play moded minecraft

I'm running 16GB of ram and I have nothing intensive open right now.
I was just idling at 7GB of active ram.
Sure, RAMMap lowered that to 3, but I don't want to have to constantly run RAMMap or cycle between what is in my RAM.
I'm planning to upgrade to 32GB soon. [spoiler]Only for RGB across my 4 DIMMS.

What more valuable 16 GB RAM or upgrading from 1 to 3 year warranty

>>60609622
Running long SPICE simulations with small time steps. I'm creating >12GB data files with compression on. I have 6GB of RAM and this laptop only allows 8 max. It's pretty slow having to a voltage vs time trace off of mass storage. I'd like to have 32GB so I can make a ram disk.

look at the spec of the soft you are going to use you fucking retard
>>60609662
>mostly programming.
a retard like you who can't determine this simple thing?

>>60610120
+1

also running at 7gb idle with some simple programs up, nothing intensive...go for 16gb

>>60610120
>>60610214
do you brain dead retards understand this is just some stupid windows thing and you don't need more ram
>I'm planning to upgrade to 32GB soon.
why, because 8GB is perfectly fine for you you fucking retard?

>>60610027
I use 14 just shitposting

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>open a small BIM model
>12 GB RAM eaten

Unfortunately upgrading would mean swapping out sticks, so fuck that

>>60610234
/g/ is mostly stupid as shit code monkeys and phone ricers. All of the actual tech-savvy people go to real websites.

>>60610214
what the fuck is wrong with your pc anon?
I have foobar, 5 tabs of firefox and overwatch open and use 5 to 6 at most.

>>60609622
>post legitimate reasons 8 GB is not enough
i have 16GB and it's not enough.
also, can't you think for yourself ?

>>60609622
Being soldered you'll have no option to upgrade later. If you ever want to sell it then the 16GiB version will maintain value much better as it is not cucked by design.

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>>60609622
Depends on what you do.
I went from 8GB to 16GB because GTAV maxed out kept making Windows 7 showing this performance warning, which was never seen after I slapped another 8GB stick in.
Now I have 24GB and I've seen Cemu use up to 13GB, and if I have loads of tabs open I might use up to 700-1000MB extra, maybe another game running in the background or simply having Photoshop open also adds up.
On top of that the rest of the systems resources makes me land on around 18-20GB sometimes.

>Buy a x220
>It's 4gb one simm
>Buy a second simm for just $12.
>8gb now.
Still using less than 1gb for shitposting and linux learning.

>>60610212
>>60610234
You're making a real strong case for being an actual waste of oxygen, anon

>>60610663
Good point. I'm leaning towards the 16 now.

Upboat for interest

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>>60609622
>post legitimate reasons 8 GB is not enough

Modern browsers.

>>60613334
Even chrome does not have this problem

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>>60613334
Jesus, and I'm not even careful about how many tabs I keep open and extensions I have running

>>60613784

It does tho, just takes more tabs.

>>60609622
I think this is right thread to ask,how do find one sided ram in shop?
All i see are R2
My motherboard support only 16gb of one sided and 8gb of double sided without combinining them.

>>60609622
Maxing our the specs will increase the resale value. Its only $100.

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>>60613988
>>60613784
>>60614003
Well there is chrome, yea... shit eats ram like nothing and was the primary reason I got 32gb, and prior to this was the leading reason what I bit the bullet on 16gb of ddr2 off ebay.

Shit is nice and fast, but fuck me it could consolidate ram FAR better than it is, or it could deal with scripts far better than it does.

>>60614106
What the fuck are you running dude? Try having less than 300 tabs open.

>>60614106
My Chrome is using less than 1.1GB, close your tabs when you're done with them my man or disable some extensions. I will never understand how people can work in such cluttered browsers.

>>60609622
Okay anon let me spell this out for you.
Will you be upgrading within the next four years?
Are you going to miss that $100?

See the way I see it is if you're going to be using this computer for an extended period of time you don't know what's gonna come in the future. My last computer went through 3 GB of RAM 8 GB of RAM and then finally 16 GB RAM all DDR2 before he upgraded to a new system with 32 GB DDR4

Now because some bullshit with scripts I've come up to the 32 GB line, but since I found the problem I usually hover around the 14 to 16 GB idle. I know I'm not everyone and that I use my computer, like it is a modern computer not a computer from the 1990s, so I eat more RAM just because of the programs I keep open, and how I use the Internet. However in 4 years we could see shit that's program sort heartedly it needs 16 GB to run, and 8 GB just won't cut it.

If you're going to get rid of this laptop within 2 years fuck it 8 GB is more than enough for you shit ain't going to change that much. Me personally I plan on the safe side, and if you consider reselling your hardware the resale value of 16 GB versus 8 GB is probably going to be worth the hundred dollars up front.

>>60614106
That's fucked. Just use something like onetab, tab outliner or the great suspender.

>>60609622
I'm no professional nor does it pay but, I do some video/photo editing and >>>/3/ stuff. It takes a ton of ram.
And I keep a million tabs open at a time.

>>60614163
Largely because if I use bookmarks the shits never going to get done. I need to look at and read a lot of different things but a lot of the shit I do can be put off for another day, if I bookmark it and close it another day's never going to come.

As for the extensions

4chan x
better you to watch history
click and save
download router
enhanced steam
images zoomer
improved YouTube extension
Mosaic alpha
play the gif
quick tabs
sad panda
search image in Google
session buddy
steam database
tabs outliner
tampermonkey
the great suspender
ublock origin
Vget extension

I was able to disable 5 other extensions that I haven't either used in a long time or very situationally used. So there is that, but on the other side that did shit overall. Because of the way that YouTube changed I consider all of the extensions that associate with YouTube as necessary to even use the platform. The 4 Chan one I consider necessary because the in-line extension just doesn't do what I want. If there's something better than mosaic alpha I'm all ears, but I can't find one better than it. Everything else should be self-explanatory as to why it's there.

>>60614115
I do have less than 300 tabs open, only 48 are open if you don't count all the suspended tabs.

>>60614231
I use tab outliner along with the great suspender. I like tab outliner for being able to see all the tabs at once in a drop-down along with the great suspender for suspending them in the tabs so I don't have to exit them completely. Honestly don't like how tab outliner requires you to suspend the tab.

This might send someone sides hurdling into the stratosphere but

Speaking of soldered RAM, will 16 GB consume more power than 8? Any battery life benefit to having 8 vs 16 in an ultrabook?

>>60614388
The difference that 16 GB will make over 8 is so minuscule it's not a problem. Let's say your battery lasts 10 hours, you're talking maybe a five-minute difference between the 2.

Absolutely, yes. But don't be an idiot and buy a system with soldered RAM in the first place, ffs.

>>60614417
I'm just assuming that is buying an Apple product and is fully beyond saving. They're the only ones that I know are so fucking cuntish to actually solder the RAM

>>60614388
I would say that the difference is so small that it would flirt with the margin of error for whatever is measuring the power draw. This shouldn't factor into your decision even a little. Focus on likely usage scenarios, price, resale value, and (definitely lastly) speed.

>>60614444
It's an X1 carbon

>>60614464
Oh for fuck sake it's spreading

>>60614464
>X1 carbon
Jesus, a dual-core, iGPU, totally-soldered system that _starts_ at ~$1100 MSRP? Why would you spend so much on such shit? You can't even remove the (45 Wh) battery, as far as I can tell.

To run 0x40 hues with a Lott of songs and images of my waifu

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>>60614341
>>60614371
>>60614387

I'm literally on the same train as you but worse. No browser has met my tab usage requirements without going apeshit over memory. Chromium + Tab outliner is the closest thing so far.

>>60614649
Get the great suspender, and set up a hot key sages have to press one button to suspend the tab, is easily the most useful thing I've ever come across so long as the tabs aren't volatile like a 4 Chan page. Suspending anything that you aren't using is fairly simple, it will be there when you start back up, and with tab outliner you're able to just open up a full window from when you shut down chrome to restart it and I'll start all those tabs automatically suspended instead of trying to open every single one of them at the same time. I can't recommend the great suspender enough, it was probably one of the 1st extensions I got when I switched over the chrome. Personally I'd switch away from palemoon just because Firefox is such shit that I only used it because it was not resource intensive like chrome was, but over time Firefox started bloating out and multimedia and it sucked so goddamn much I just had no option. Then you also have Firefox not wanting to give up the resources that it already took so even if you close tabs that were demanding it still retains all the bullshit inside of it, at the very least chrome only does that after being on for 20+ days. For the most part I'm able to get back all of the resources that a tab opens up and chrome. I hate recommending it but it's really your only option for browser anymore.

>>60614736

Thanks, I'll try the great suspender. I already moved from Palememe since it started using CPU like crazy for no reason, lagging up and generally being shit in sites like twitter.

>Then you also have Firefox not wanting to give up the resources that it already took so even if you close tabs that were demanding it still retains all the bullshit inside of it

Vivaldi does the same bullshit, which is a shame because I really liked the vertical tabs and interface. But it has literally the worst memory usage I've ever seen, in 40 tabs all my 16GB of RAM are gone, while Chromium can hold up to 300 open tabs before shitting itself.

>>60614810
Chrome is very much capable shitting itself profusely if you allow it to. A mixture of tab outliner, the great suspender, and quick tabs makes chrome with many tabs open very manageable.

Personally I'd also use quick tabs just so you can search through all of your tabs and find what you want with a few keystrokes. It's one of those extensions that's useful but the main use for it only really shows itself once you have so many tabs open you can't read what's on each tab at a glance anymore.

Tab outliner kind is shits itself once you go above 2000 tabs in the thing, so keep that in mind it's gonna crash a lot if you do that.

Now on Firefox's side, this is an issue that I used to have I want to say 10 years ago, the 32-bit version of Firefox would only allow you to to use around 700 to 800 MB of RAM before performance fucking shit itself hard. Once you hit that point it would constantly use an entire core and it would never perform good till reset. I can't say for certain that happens on 64-bit as I've never actually use Firefox enough to hit that limit, but somewhere around 300 tabs open in Firefox seems to make it wanted shit itself, at least pale moon did for me. I was considering switching back a couple months ago but I just couldn't do it it wasn't worth my time.

>>60614961
>Tab outliner kind is shits itself once you go above 2000 tabs in the thing, so keep that in mind it's gonna crash a lot if you do that.

wew, my old tab outliner session reached 4000+ tabs, while my current one has 2600+. No wonder extension crashes are becoming more common.

>Now on Firefox's side, this is an issue that I used to have I want to say 10 years ago, the 32-bit version of Firefox would only allow you to to use around 700 to 800 MB of RAM before performance fucking shit itself hard. Once you hit that point it would constantly use an entire core and it would never perform good till reset. I can't say for certain that happens on 64-bit as I've never actually use Firefox enough to hit that limit, but somewhere around 300 tabs open in Firefox seems to make it wanted shit itself, at least pale moon did for me. I was considering switching back a couple months ago but I just couldn't do it it wasn't worth my time.

That's one of the reasons why I stopped using Firefox variations, all of them have that issue. It's so refreshing how Chromium never rapes my CPU nor lags no matter how many tabs are open. The only reason I have to go back to Palemoon is to move my old saved sessions to Chromium, but I haven't found an extension that can convert them.

>>60615103
With tab outliner the moment that you open up the extension it becomes a ticking time bomb once you have that many tabs. If you not to use it for a while the best thing is to do is to kill the extension and reopen the extension. Shift escape opens up to the process manager for chrome and if you sort by RAM use it should be above everything else. It's an annoying habit that the extension has that they're working on but till it solved its the best you got

>>60609622
>tfw I'm posting this post from my 15 years old Pentium 4, 1 GB RAM PC
>tfw the experience is pretty much lag-free on XP
Depends whether you're gonna use it, anon.

>>60615564
lag is largely dependant on the boot drive, if a website was shitting itself, you would fucking know in a heartbeat while people with more modern pcs may not even notice it.

Anyone else have any input on:
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