Why aren't you using Arch Linux?

Because I'm already using a stable operating system called Gentoo.

because I am using fedora

Void, Alpine, and Devuan are the next wave of autism is why. Get with the times, gramps.

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I am though senpai

>>60607736
Its not endorsed by the FSF. I run Parabola GNU/linux-libre.

I'm running Ubuntu. Should I switch?

>>60607736

Because I'm having a wireless driver issue I haven't solved yet

>>60607736
Gentoo works for me.

>>60607736
Because I don't have to install anything else to Debian once I set it up.

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>not using multiple distros

Been using it for maybe 5-6 years now.

Next Laptop I'm buying gets Manjaro, though. Just to try it out.

because i'm using windows 10 since it lets me do literally anything arch users can with 0 effort

>>60607736
>gentoo exist
>youre using arch
are you wot or retarded

>>60608179
Can you install updates without rebooting?

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why would I ever use that?

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GNU/Arch Linux user here
things are getting a bit bloated with over 730 packages though maybe i should re-install it again

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Because contrary to what you keep on claiming, everything just werks on win10. Had no issues with it so far.
I keep on waiting for something to annoy me to the point of wanting to switch to Linux, but so far it seems like a pointless hassle.

because i use Antergos

>>60608189
I can have it update when I turn off my PC which is like every night

I use Win10 and I wish I could switch to linux but I can't play Overwatch or PSO2 in it.

>>60608353
So what you're saying is there are some pretty basic things you can't do that literally every arch user can. I guess that makes what you said earlier false then, doesn't it?

Because I'm using Ubuntu Mate, the best justwerks distro.

>>60608221
Just do pacman -Q and start looking at what is all installed. You should have an idea of what is and is not needed.

>>60608364
Have you tried? You could try Wine or a VM. Personally, I don't think Windows-only software is worth using, but if you feel differently, you definitely have some options.

>>60608221
Maybe you should kill yourself and actually use your shit instead of just ricing it.

My time is valuable

>>60608426
i know but i just feel its easier to do a clean installation now and again instead of trying to remember what packages do what

>>60608470
"no"
stop being mad because your to retarded

>>60608501
>instead of trying to remember what packages do what
>I randomly install shit
And somehow I am the retard.

>>60608519
>implying you dont install random shit
stop acting a nigger

>>60607736
that's a rare pepe
mind if i save it?

>>60608433
To be honest I'm thinking of trying and I've already got arch ready to install in a usb stick, but I'm worried about performance. My PC is a semi-toaster so I'm guessing running something like Overwatch in a VM would impact performance a lot, but I have no idea how Wine works.

I wouldn't mind using it for work purposes at all though, everything I need for that already has a linux version...

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>>60607736
I am though
>>60607844
nope, learn to troubleshoot a little and then switch by using arch-anywhere and using the arch wiki for troubleshooting
>>60607854
What card?
>>60608221
autism, less packages doesn't equal better. I have 900~ish packages just for fun more packages don't bloat/slow you down

>>60607736
because it was shit, is shit and always be shit (and irrelevant)

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>>60608581
fyi you can peruse through a graph of your installed programs and spot ones you really don't need. If you don't know what something does or at least if you want it installed, then you're not living your life correctly.

>>60607854
just buy a new one, they are very cheap

>>60607736
because i have a job

>>60608476
>literally taking time to enter to a thread and leave a comment.
>can't take the same time to try Arch.

>>60608691
Can you go into more detail and tell me how to do in windows also

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>>60607736
I can't unsee the fat guy in the logo

>>60608804
I don't know if anything like that exists for Windows, the pic I posted is the product of an Arch Linux tool called pacgraph.

>tfw run Arch that you haven't updated in about a year on a 10 year old samsung i5 laptop
just werkz famalama

>>60607736
Gentoo is far superior in every way.

>>60607736
kek

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>>60608611
>My PC is a semi-toaster so I'm guessing running something like Overwatch in a VM would impact performance a lot, but I have no idea how Wine works.
Don't bother with Wine

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Because, i am already using the best OS
Qubes OS

Because I need my secondary computer to be as stable as possible so I have it on Ubuntu

>>60609093
Oh and because I know some sperg will meme about some other distro being more stable, I can only say that in ~5 years of using Ubuntu I've yet to experience a significant system crash so that's good enough for me

No support for the Adobe suite and DAWs that are actually worth using. I want to make the switch to Linux but I don't want to fuck around with VMs or Wine just to be able to use the programs I need.

And no, Gimp and Krita aren't alternatives to Photoshop and there's no Linux alternative to Lightroom, the only free program worth using is Davinci Resolve.

1- I have a life
2- I have a job
3- I have a girlfriend and a loving family
4- I dont need it
5- I dont need to boost my anonymous internet points by having it on my screenfetch thread post

Should I install Gentoo, *BSD or a third alternative? Is there currently a flavor of the month?

>>60608611
With wine expect not being able to run games that have ~60fps on ultra in windows to run at ~30fps in wine at medium-low.
This depends on the game, but most "new" titles (dx10+ era) ran like that for me - starcraft 2 most noticebly. Just dual boot, play what you can on linux and wait for more native games (which often are shitty ports but more linux users = more games designed to run on linux natively in the long run)
Wine is great for old games though, most run better than on new windows versions, but i would want the wine devs to focus on compatibility with production software

>>60607819
how do u achive such low ram on startup?
welp, but shitty ubuntu look.

>>60609211
You using W10, dubsman?

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>>60608501
you're the goddamn tard. Don't show off your arch if you reinstall everytime you don't know what's happening.

Rather de-evolve to ubuntu if you don't have a clue what the fuck is going on in your system.

Meme believers like you are the reason why Arch is hated so much in here.

>>60608221
>DE: i3
Time to kms

>>60609234
Always Gentoo

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>>60607736
>spend more time "ricing"/troubleshooting your os than doing actual computer stuff
It's not even FSF approved

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>>60607736
Wait,
I am using arch.

>>60607736
>durr why don't you use what i use durrrrrrr

>>60609211
>girlfriend
>have
>i

>>60607736
because it has systemd

My system crashed again

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggggggggg :--DDDD

>>60610327
Everything has systemd now.
You can run another init system o Arch.

>>60607736
using guixsd

>>60607736
Kolibri master race here :D

>>60607736

Because I realized that all Linus distros are the same, only the community, userspace and default apps/confs are the only differences.

You can compile from source in Ubuntu, you can make a minimal instalation with pining packages in Ubuntu. You can install hipster tiling WM. You can bleeding age (if you use PPA, official repos, upstream or source code).

tl;dr: I don't need it, I use Ubuntu.

>>60611050
>Linus distros

>>60611050
You're wrong, distros differ in their repos and that's a big difference.
You can't install packages as comfortably in Ubuntu as in Arch.

>>60611100

>comfortably

you are talking about comfort. I am talking about if it can be done or not.

You can do it too. It's harder in Ubuntu? Yes, just like it's harder to have default desktop quickly in Arch.

It can be done. Maybe you are just too dumb and lazy to do it in Ubuntu.

>he can't pin packages
>he can't compile from source unless he uses meme software like portage or yaourt
>he can't modify defaults in Ubuntu, IN FUCKING UBUNTU.

who is the brainlet, Archfag?

>>60611294
I can do things in a messy and/or manual way, but why, when I can do them in a clean and/or automatic way?

>>60611294
By that logic you should use Brainfuck since it's turing complete.

>>60611294
I do it on Debian.

>>60607736
Because everything is made to work with Ubuntu and I can't be arsed to fix things up to get them to work anyway.

>>60607736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFbDcASSwEA

>>60611561
What exactly is "made for ubuntu"?

>>60607736
I wish I didn't have to go out of my way to get rid of systemd on my Arch installs because Arch is pretty good besides that cancer.

>>60608058
wow master of the memes

>>60607736
because I installed debian testing on a different laptop and it works

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>>60607736
because it has systemd

Ewwww.

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>>60607736
I installed it a few days ago on a spare old laptop, but I want to install it on my actual laptop and desktop. How good are Manjaro and Antergos compared to it? I liked the installation process of Arch and learned a lot but I don't want to go through it again at least for a while.

>>60608273
nice botnet

>>60613757
Antergos is literally just Arch with an installer and an extra repo for some extra stuff. The Antergos installer is great, just keep clicking next.

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I just don't see any reason to use it. I went back to Xubuntu because everything was there already and it comes configured. I can remove unnecessary packages and I end up with roughly the same amount of packages and memory footprint. 17.04 has all the package I really want and everything else I can get through ppas. AUR is nice to have but it's barely useable considering half of the packages are old and development has stopped.

Arch and Ubuntu repositories are about the same and I can't really say I ever benefitted from the whole bleeding edge thing. It was more annoying because I constantly had to update my system.

I like the Arch approach more, but I don't have time or energy to configure absolutely everything, and partly I don't have enough knowledge to get everything just right.

Thing a low memory footprint Arch installation was good on my T60 but on my T420s I have enough resources to run whatever the fuck I want, really. I just don't see why I should have Arch on it.

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>>60607736
I have work to do.

>>60613822
I will go for it then. Thanks anon!
I though Manjaro would be more stable or something since it's been around for way longer but if Antergos is actually Arch then fuck yeah I'm in.
When you first log in, can you use the wifi instantaneously or do you have to install networkmanager, enable the systemctl service, start it etc?

>>60607736

I'm semi-autistic, but not autistic enough to run a distribution degenerate diaper wearing furries, MLP horse fuckers and morbidly obese pedophilic weeaboo neckbeard manchildren

>>60613935
It just works! Manjaro is slightly more stable but that's because the Manjaro devs use their own repos and hold off on releasing Arch updates until Arch users essentially beta test it. Manjaro tries to be more of a distro based on Arch like how Ubuntu is based on Debian while Antergos is straight up Arch for people who don't feel like doing the manual install all over again for another machine.

>>60614063
To add to this, Manjaro uses its own patched kernel while Antergos uses the vanilla Arch kernel.

>>60614063
fuck I can't decide now. Antergos is exactly what I was looking for but then I need my desktop to be stable. Guess I'm trying both. I heard that with Manjaro sometimes shit breaks because of the backwards compatibility from Arch, but probably not that big of a deal.
>>60614108
patched how? what's the difference?

>>60608417
Manjaro is the justwerks distro now.

>>60614141
I don't know the details but I do know when you screenfetch in Manjaro, the kernel has "Manjaro" appended instead of just "ARCH" to it so they must do something different.

I personally use Antergos because I like the bleeding edge life. I put Manjaro with the LTS kernel on my sister's laptop because I want her stuff to be stable enoug that I don't have to do any troubleshooting for her. Also Manjaro theme is green which is her favorite color and Antergos is blue which is mine.

>>60608417
I have Ubuntu Mate on my desktop and Arch on my laptop.
>>60614172
Yeah going to try it tomorrow. Looking to get rid of Ubuntu.
>>60614224
Yeah I noticed that when I googled images. Definitely trying both out.

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FONTS

fresh arch install
>ttf-dejavu
>noto-fonts

What else about the fonts?

>>60614268
Infinality
Anonymous Pro
Terminus

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>>60614276
are infinality still a thing?
I read that its unmaintained, unneeded and had some issues with harfbuzz update

>>60607736
Because I'm mentally stable

>>60614337
Ah, I'm a little behind the times then. It's been a while since I installed straight Arch. On Antergos the fonts look great by default but I don't know what the situation is on vanilla Arch.

>>60614392
well, I think my prev installtion with infinality looked tiny bit better
but not enough to face some issues

>>60607798
my melanated fellow

>>60607736
gnome kept crashing so I've been using my macbook because I need a stable environment to get shit done in

It really is 9/10 of the way there, maybe 8.5/10. Very close. I almost feel like they should have a feature freeze and just focus on making everything work 100% for a cycle.

I don't know, how's fedora?

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Already on the best distro

>inb4 Kevin

>>60614141
>I heard that with Manjaro sometimes shit breaks because of the backwards compatibility

On my old laptop I used Manjaro for something like 2 years and never had anything break, that being said I never really fiddled with stuff just the occasional bit of code and web browsing.
But in the long run what's the cost of trying out Manjaro? You install it, try it out for a week and worse case scenario you don't like it, wipe it and install Antegros.
So yeah I would recommend Manjaro for stability and overall ease of use, the community maintained distrubitions of Manjaro (essentially just different DE and WM's) are pretty neat as well.

>>60611328
>aur
>clean

>>60615028
yeah, definitely installing both. For starters Antergos on my laptop to dual boot with Arch because why the fuck not and Manjaro on the desktop which I actually use to get work done. If I like Antergos better then I'll switch Manjaro for that, and vice versa. All my important shit are on Ubuntu Mate and external HDD, USB and git repos so switching should not be a problem even if it takes weeks to decide. Thanks for the info mate. Seems like manjaro bspwm hasn't been updated since 2014 but I'll just install it on my own.

>>60615121
well it keeps everything in /tmp, things (deps) either install like a normal package and can be rem'd like one, or it fails and all the intermediaries are flushed on reboot

so in that sense it's clean. You can still get dependency spam, however. But I think the bigger issue is just the low quality of a lot of the code and the way things will fail in the first place.