/pcbg/ PC Building General

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/05/25/community-update-4-lets-talk-dram

Those looking for news on the ram issues with AM4 motherboards.

>i7-7700k - bad value but good
Was this written by a manic with tourette's?

>>60599599
Just add "for gaymes" at the end.

>>60599599
$325 (+ at least $30 cooler) for a 4 cores in 2017 is really shit. It's poor value. It has a strong point in that it can reach framerates that no other CPUs can, but that's about it.

is nixeus as good as their reputation seems to be?

im considering this
http://www.nixeus.com/product/nixeus-edg27/

but it uses that au optronics panel that has severe quality control issues, ive already returned 3 other monitors that used the same panel

>>60599623
Nobody should have to assume. The description isn't descriptive.
>>60599634
>for a 4 cores
Then specify "in core count". The statement "bad but good" doesn't tell you anything.

Any thoughts on this build

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QWnxd6

What are good mobos for ryzen cpus? Asrock pro 4 any good?

Just built a new pc with the following parts
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMZLLD

Running an RX580 8GB and Ryzen 5 1600. Problem is most of my games are capped at 60 frames (or lower) and it doesn't matter what settings I'm on. Vsync is always disabled, but I am using a 60hz monitor. Tried googling it but it seems like my problem's an isolated one. Anyone know what I can do? Does it somehow have to do with only having 8gb of ram?

>>60599736

Almost any B350 mobo will be fine as long as you dont go crazy on voltage. Asrock/ASUS boards are good for straining your VRM's with 1.4++

>>60599735
no complaints. good build

>>60599735

good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WrHXqk

First time building a PC. Planning on some light streaming and video games. Nothing hardcore. Monitor listed is a planned secondary monitor that'll double as a television. Primary would likely be a 1440p.

Looking for general advice on if it's sound or not and any improvements I can make. Also I don't understand the compatibility note it gives me regarding the Cooler and the MOBO

Which current monitor is the absolute king of motion clarity? Sick of using garbage tier 60hz PWM displays and thought I'd go straight for the best.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/koolboy78/saved/8F7999 r8

>>60599870

Good build. Also they mean this:
http://www.coolermaster.com/we-are-ready-for-your-am4-socket/

>>60599877
the problem at this point, is how powerful is your system?
The current king of displays is an 8k monitor made by Dell, but you need a very powerful system to push to it effectively... and the monitor is like $5k.

>>60599880
wut case

>>60599899
Learn how to read.

>>60599955
I did. You said you'd go straight to the best.
I hope you have bank.

>>60599955

he did, you said the best.

That is the best and the king of clarity.

>>60599735
Change the case, buy fractal.
The rest is perfect.

>>60599965
>>60600006
>motion clarity

Learn how to read.

>>60600028
it is. get over it. You asked for the best. Now open the wallet wide and let Daddy Dell take a thrust

>>60599897
What would be a comparably priced cooler that doesn't need some sort of compatibility hookup to use?

>>60600028

What makes you think it isn't the king of motion clarity?

>>60600053
there isn't one. Ryzen is new.

>>60600028
8k is the resolution. 5k is the price.
You asked for the king of displays then bitched when presented with it.

>>60600053

Read the fuckin list mate. It tells you which CM cooler is compatible out of the box.

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>>60599915
this one

>>60600229
so shit then

>>60600405
tell me why?

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https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1JQEG1
Are there any ways that I can cut down the cost while still keeping it actually useful for gaming? Hard budget limit is 1100$, but I'd like to keep it below 1000$ if possible.

Here's my ideal specs:
Processor: i5-7600k (or better)
RAM: 16GB (or higher)
Graphics Card: GTX 1050 2GB (or better)
Storage Capacity: 1TB (or higher)
Power Supply: 800 watts (or higher)
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (or better)
Benchmark Game: Fallout 4 at 60+fps on highest graphics settings (or better)

>>60600433
>non modular bays
>unpainted aluminum interior
>ketchup and mustard wiring
>hideous fan mount on acrylic side glass

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What did they mean by this?

>>60599412
I need a mouse /g/

>~$40
>wired or wireless it doesn't matter
>no gaymershit

>>60600433
I never want to hear you say, I want it that wayyyy

Are ASUS graphics cards any good? I'm looking at the ASUS Radeon EX-RX570-4G.

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um according to seasonic you have to use two sepearate pcie cables when connecting a graphics card. WTF

>>60600467
buying prebuilt systems is a catch22. Yes there's a warranty, but for less money, you can often build a system with similar or even better capabilities.

BTW, no one recommends the i5 7600k anymore. Everyone recommends the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 though.

Anyways, here's a build for you. I managed to keep it under 1k.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2M2Xqk

Just had a general question about CPUs. Why are Intel's CPUs only mostly 4-cores when there were already 3.8Ghz 8-core AMD CPUs in 2012 ? What made CPUs better since that time given that they all clock at the same frequencies and do not have more cores ? Is it just the RAM bridge frequencies ? Are 8-core CPUs just a meme ?

>>60600494
Just get a wheel mouse optical off ebay for $5 and install the 1000hz driver. Don't fall for modern gamershit mice memes.

lul who would come to this shithole general full of fucking retards that don't know anything about PC hardware instead of just going to r/buildapc

>>60600557
The only thing keeping me from building my own system is that I don't trust myself well enough to put it together without breaking something. CyberPower seems to give the best deals out of any pre-built seller, so I've been forced to go with them unless an alternative presents itself.

About the Ryzen, I've heard talk from friends that AMD processors, regardless of type, are universally shitty and prone to overheating like their graphics cards. Has that changed with the Ryzen 5?

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>>60600467
First of all build your own.

If Fallout 4 at 60fps ultra @ 1080p is your goal, do this, pic related. You'll need to update the BIOS but that's all.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nMj9W

>>60600591
YES, for the last time. Ryzen is NOTHING like the FX series, for fucks sake, at least do some basic googling before coming here.

>>60600591
Your friends are ignorant morons that parrot outdated information. You should always build your own system, it's not hard just watch a YouTube tutorial. The Ryzen 5 lineup gives close to the same performance as the 7600k for a much cheaper price.

>>60600566
back in 2012, 8 core CPUs were a meme. Though AMD 8 core FX chips existed, they were comparable in performance to a 4 core Intel i5.

A few months ago, AMD released Ryzen, which introduced a completely new 8 core architecture. For 500 bucks, a new 8 core AMD Ryzen 7 will dominate an Intel Core i7 6900k, which is a $1000 CPU.

>>60600591
>Has that changed with the Ryzen 5?
What you hear your friends talk about was AMD's FX chips. Ryzen was introduced 3 months ago. The 8 core RYzen 7 chips have put to shame $1000i Intel chips like the 6900k while costing half as much, The Ryzen 5 series uses the same architecture as Ryzen 7 but with cores deactivated for 4 core and 6 core variants. The golden chip of the line up is the Ryzen 5 1600, a 6 core, 12 thread CPU for $220.

Is it critical for me to use a PCIe 3.0 slot with NVMe?

I've got plenty of spare PCIe 2.0 slots, but no spare 3.0 ones.

>>60600566
>>60600591
here. This explains the architecture and what it can do.
And before you say anything about her, Dr. Lisa Su is the CEO of AMD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8

>>60600591
> I don't trust myself well enough to put it together without breaking something
Trust yourself a little more. The parts are designed to be assembled.

Is the Intel heatsink any good if I apply third party thermal paste (arctic silver) to it?

>>60600732
temps may be somewhat lower but Intel's stock coolers are garbage.

>>60599744
Have you updated your gpu's drivers yet?

>>60600591
Your friends are retarded. Who the fuck do you think makes the processors that run their Xbox's, playstation's, and Nintendo Switch's? All AMD.

>>60600732
If you want to keep your budget to a bare minimum, maybe. But the stock intel heatsink is shit, and insanely loud. If you plan to do anything other than Word/Web-surfing, just change it right away. Anything else is better.

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>>60600708
Alright, time for honesty. It's not me that lacks trust, it's my parents. I've tried to assure them that it's manageable with proper research, but they believe it's like neuro-surgery and that I'm incapable of it, so they demand that I get it pre-built. So, pre-built is my only option right now.

>>60600467
Check out this guide

http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/fallout4/

>>60600800
>logicalincrements
into the trash it goes.

>>60600796
here. Show them this. It's not rocket science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAelSOF6f0&t=14s

>>60600494
Get A zowie, i recently used one, theyre basic but good. Basically the new Microsoft intellimouse.

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>>60599412
Hi so I'm going for rx580
Should I get Nitro+ limited edition 8G for 290$
Or Gigabite Aorus 8G for 250$

I know nitro+ is better,is it 40$ better tho?

>>60600591
>I've heard talk from friends that AMD processors, regardless of type, are universally shitty and prone to overheating like their graphics cards. Has that changed with the Ryzen 5?
Your friends are retarded and don't know anything about hardware. Happens a lot with normal people, my friends say the same and have the audacity to tell me that my R9 280x is causing me problems when it doesn't and my R7 1700 is shit when benchmarks show it doesn't
Even the shittiest AMD CPUs & GPUs didn't overheat, though they did quite more than their Nvidia & Intel countertpart, but that's something of the past.

>>60600920
just get the Aorus

>>60600796
Maybe emphasize that they don't get the choice that exactly fits their need and that they lose money by paying for someone else to build their own PC. Maybe invite a friend that has already built a PC and tell them he'll do it with you idk.

>>60600796
If it's about the warranty, every component has its own warranty. Sometimes even longer than a whole prebuilt.

I've seen this before with friends, their parents dont trust them and they buy prebuilts, when something broke they still came to me because the warranty was gone anyway. It's ways something simple which you couldve circumvented by building yourself, like a bad PSU.

How does Zen compare to Skylake in IPC?

>>60600467
Drop the 7600k and get an R5 1600 instead, not only is it cheaper because it doesn't require a cooler but it also is better.
Downgrade the overkill PSU to 500 - 550w
Upgrade the GPU to either a GTX 1050ti or if the budget can afford, RX 570 which is miles ahead of it
R5 1600 + RX 570 are both the best value hardware there is, best performance per $

>>60600551
100% humbug

>>60600971
About 90% of Skylake's IPC when comparing most instruction sets and loads, and up to 115% in very specific benchmarks (and on Linux). I think its AES-NI implementation is up to 200% better than Skylake, but I might be mistaking that with older AMD CPUs versus pre-Haswell.

>>60600971
Ryzen actually has higher IPC, but it can't overclock as well as Skylake CPU's can.

>>60600971
It's lower but not by much. The difference of performance is because of much higher clocks Intel CPUs can achieve and most importantly, communication speed between cores. The CCX design of Ryzen (two groups of core) make it so that when a core from group 1 tries to communicate with a core from a core from group 2, the latency is very very much higher than core communication speed of intel processors (naturally this is a tradeof for a lot of advantages this design gives).
But the difference is not at big as some people would make it out to be: Most people kept comparing the R7 1700 (3 to 3.7GHz) to the 7700k (4.5GHz) on launch benchmarks (missing all the bios updates & agesa that improved performacne a bit), whereas if you compare an R5 1500x to i5 7500 it's pretty much the same thing (they have almost the same clocks and perform the same in games)

Now, if you're talking non-game workloads, there is no rule of thumb: it's entirely dependent on which workload.

Is 8GB RAM enough?

>>60601067
Light gaming: Yes
AAA gaming: No
Workstation: Yes, but get more regardless.

>>60601067
No,this is not 2011.
16gb is new minimum for anything that is not ultra-budget or netbook.
18gb will last you for long time,5years minimum

>>60601067
yes, don't listen to these retards>>60601088
>>60601091

>>60601067
Don't listen to this retard. >>60601116

Open world games like fallout and witcher will eat 16gb of meme up.

>>60601127
>fallout
>more than 4GB of ram
lmao okay

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTfq8K


>need a reliable mobo
>can i even fit 2 m.2 drives on it?
>best if it has 'constant 5V on all USB' or 'Audio over USB feature'
>all my audio runs through an usb audio interface and studio speakers, previous mobo caused problems when transfering files over usb (sound would get either distorted or completly cut off)

>plz don't recommend going for ryzen, as amd/ryzen CPU tend to cause huge sound latency - no good for my use

also, if you got any Europe based stores with cheap prices and shipping to Austria - that would be great

Im in the process of making a g4560 build and am wondering which is better for it the RX 480 4gb or the RX 570 GB?

after a few days of research and thought I am going with AMD. What do you guys think of this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTCTxY

>>60601634
570. IIRC, a G4560 will bottleneck a 580.

>>60601650
All good. Could change a few parts to make it cheaper if you wanted, but it's perfectly fine.

>>60601663
really like what? i was trying to keep it under 1000 and have a black and white theme but couldn't succeed so I flexed the budget.

>>60600607
>1050ti
no get a rx 570 instead

>>60601681
You can save a few bucks changing the motherboard to an Asrock B350 Pro 4 or an Asrock B350m Pro 4, both of which would match the color scheme. You can get a 120 gb ssd instead of 240, but again, I can understand keeping the 240.

>>60601599
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTfq8K
Are you trolling?

>>60601842
He isn't

I'm building a PC with vidya primarily in mind, maybe VR in the future and I need help deciding on some parts. Not interested in 4K in the next 3 years at least. Not super interested in overclocking but I might get into that some day. Preferably no le gayming LED/RGB shit, I just want functionality and performance.

>CPU
Need help choosing between i5 6700k, i7 7600k and i7 7700k. No idea about coolers, need help on that as well.
>Motherboard
Pretty sure I'll get MSI Z270-A PRO. It's Z270, supports up to 3800MHz DDR4, has a M.2 slot (just one but I'm not into hoarding data) and has Optane support. If that counts for anything.
>GPU
6GB GTX 1060, thinking about Zotac AMP!, but I heard MSI has the best model - it's just that I don't remember which one it was because there's like 5 of them.
>SSD
Thinking of giving that up for a while, I'm fine with a 500GB HDD right now. Unless you can recommend me something reasonably cheap and cost efficient.
>RAM
2x4GB 3000Mhz. Trying to save money since buying more RAM later is not a problem. Is there even such a thing as a shitty RAM manufacturer? Should I get more? I've seen benchmarks that shown dual channel is not a meme, that's why I'm not getting 1x8GB.
>PSU
Will 600W be enough? What manufacturer?

Any reason to have 32 gb of ram vs 16?

Planning for 1440 in the future, MAYBE 4k

1600x ryzen is cpu, 580 or vega depending in future.

>>60601881
Why not Ryzen 5? You can get a Ryzen 5 1600 (6 cores, 12 threads) for $220, overclock it to like 3.7 on a $90 B350 motherboard, and get similar performance to a 7700k, and all reliably with the stock cooler it comes with. And even without overclocking, it puts up a great fight against the Intel i5 series.

>>60601766
oh i knew the ssd and a few bucks isn't that necessary thanks for your input

>>60601881
ryzen 1700 is better then all that intel shit

>>60601842
no, why?

>>60601921
I just heard Ryzen are no good for gaymin. Also I'd like to go with Intel even though AMD served me very well for the last 6 years.

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/vgcag/ - Video Game Console Assembly General

>>60601971
My PC is also used for rendering webms for 4chan thank you very much.

>>60601881
>i5 6700k or 7600k
it's shit, R5 1600 outperforms it at lower price point. Either that or a 7700k.

Wouldn't recommend 8GB for an AAA gaming build today because for some games it's already not enough. 12 or higher is pretty good.

>>60601949
>I just heard Ryzen are no good for gaymin.
you heard wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI

>Also i'd like to go with X brand for no particular reason
Then don't expect much advices, we're not going to give you bad advice just because you want us to.

>>60601949
>I just heard Ryzen are no good for gaymin.
lies from Intel shills.
Here's the Ryzen 5 1500x (4 core, 8 thread), against an i5 7500.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjHYM7zDiE&t=303s

and a 1600 vs a 7600k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0oSYTP24rU

Sure the Intel chips may hit slightly higher framerates, but lok how close it is. Look how much higher the minimums are on Ryzen. Look how much CPU usage is between the 2 (high usage can cause stuttering)

>>60599634
>$325
Last I checked eBay they were $300

>>60599599
It's a bad value CPU but a good high explosive you can buy online without a permit.

>>60601987
>>60601991
Alright, you guys sold me on the Ryzen 1600. Guess I got memed at work. Any advice on the rest of the specs?

>>60602017
RX 580 8GB over the 1060.

A 600W PSU will be plenty.

As to an SSD< most of us will recommend a 120 GB SSD and then a 1TB or 2 TB HDD for storage. more storage, just as fast, and a lot nicer on the wallet at the same time

Can someone link the infographic site for monitors?

>>60601971
>he says as he posts his animated Korean mural on a Norwegian bobsledding forum

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mc7QvV
Quick r8

posted it last night and had anons give me advice
Not going Ryzen since its benefits arent going to be used in the things I use
Would I get better performance with higher clocked RAM?

>>60602154
>Would I get better performance with higher clocked RAM?
nope. Doesn't make a difference on Intel. Big difference on Ryzen though.

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should i

>>60602236
if you're on the fence about a $700 card then it's probably not a very good investment.

>580 Nitro+ is completely sold out when I take my chance to order my new PC

Fuck everything.

>>60602281
fuck miners.

>>60602270
well i moreso want to know if the card itself is shit
i've been burned by gigabyte in the past before with a windforce gtx 770

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>>60599412
Thinking about getting a new PC

I build my old one but I don't feel like building another one.

What would be the best type of prebuilt computer available nowadays for gaming?

Desktop only please.

how do i make money to build a new pc

asking for a friend

>>60602310
suck dick in a red light district

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>>60602310
just buy more you knucklehead

>>60602329
great idea, cheers

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>>60602305

>>60602347
Don't be a dick please.

Just give me some advice.

If prebuilt is a bad idea then tell me what parts to get for a new self-built PC.

EVGA 750 GQ 750W ATX Modular Power Supply
Ryzen 1700x
Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080 (8GB) Graphics Card PCI Express 3.0 DisplayPort/HDMI/DVI-D
Crucial MX300 (1050GB) 2.5 inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s (internal) with 9.5mm Adaptor
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Mid Tower Case - Black
asus am4 x370 Motherboard.
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3000MHz CL16 1.35v DDR4 Desktop Memory Kit
Samsung 960 EVO (500GB) V-NAND Solid State Drive NVMe M.2 (Internal)
Western Digital Black (6TB) 3.5 inch 7200RPM SATA III Hard Drive
NZXT Kraken X52 (240mm) AIO CPU Water Cooling Unit


Guys Rate my Pc Build. Anything I should Change? Going to mainly use it for Game Servers + Gaming on 1440p 144hz Monitor.

>>60602305
>best type of prebuilt computer
That's like asking what the least lethal amount of cyanide you should take is you fucking moron

Are ANY fucking 580s in stock?

>>60602362
current specs, budget for new build, Form factor.

>>60602368
Get a Ti for 144hz, non-Ti for 60hz

how hot is my gpu supposed to get?
when playing bdo with my rx 580 nitro+ it starts to get up to the 70-75*C area

>>60602395
>1080Ti - 1440p@90-144+hz; 4k@60hz in SOME games, more at lower settings
Cant dude its too much then. My limit is around £2300-2350

>>60602411
that's not bad at all
any hotter though and i'd say there actually is a problem
also consider the temperature of your room and the placement of the desktop itself

>>60602389
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx580/
not at all if you don't count ebay

I want to buy a new computer for my little sister. Mind you I built a new one for myself a couple months ago so I'm still aware of the current PC parts etc but I'm fishing for different opinions to help me decide.
She plays games a lot and always will, and I think she'd be interested in making videos and streaming (she's tried to on her current one but couldn't because it's too shit and dying).

So far I was thinking...
If Intel : G4600 or one of the i5 (if I can find one at a GOOD price - what sucks though is that non-K have terrible coolers).
If AMD : R5 1400, 1500X, 1600 or 1600X (preferably one that comes with the Wrath Spire so I don't have to buy a cooler).

The positive point about Intel is that I wouldn't have to bother buying a GPU yet, she never could play any games on PC, not even stuff like Undertale so she'd still be happy with the iGPU for a little while (I went through this myself with my 7700K and it wasn't that bad at all, hundreds of games you can still play with it). Then maybe later down this year I can give her my 1070 and get myself some high-end GPU or something.
If I go R5 I'd probably couple it with an RX470/570 or 480/580 IF not too expensive. If Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB seems fine.

Could I get a breakdown on AMD motherboards (which ones are the most recommended?) and all the RAM problems there have been please? Honestly I'm all for buying AMD but I do not want to deal with things that just don't work as they should, fuck that.

>>60602394
>>60602305
Current specs:
Processor: AMD A8-3870 APU with Radeon HD graphics 3.00 GHz

8 GB installed RAM

windows 7 64-bit

I guess my current budget would be around 1500 dollars or so.

>>60602434
room is always pretty warm, when I put the AC on it stays between 68-72

>>60602448
Oh graphics card is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti

>>60602456
sounds about right, then. i wouldn't worry. you could always force the fans to run at a higher rpm in exchange for some minor noise if you're really that worried

>>60602443
How the fuck do you want her to stream and kode on a pentium?

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>>60601041
Excuse me, but I'd simply like to correct you for one short while. What you're saying is Linux, is in actuality, GNU/Linux, or as I simply the other day began to call it, GNU with Linux. Linux is not an OS by itself, but actually another free piece of a completely functioning GNU setup made useful by the GNU core libraries, terminal tools and essential setup components comprising a full OS.

There are many owners use a flavor of the original setup constantly, without knowing. Through a unseen series of situations, the edition of GNU applied today is often called Linux, and many of its owners do not know that it is practically the GNU setup, created by GNU.

There truly is a Linux, and they do have it installed, but it is simply a part of the setup they use. Linux is the core, the part of the setup that distributes the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The core is a necessary part of an OS, but useless by itself; it can only function in the shadow of a whole OS. Linux is commonly applied in combination with the GNU OS, the whole setup is practically GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every one of the supposed Linux releases are really releases of GNU/Linux.

Guys whats a good 1080 ti brand?

>>60602494
To be fair I've seen people recording themselves playing BF1 with a G Pentium and they managed to keep it at 60FPS even in Ultra. So with some settings lowered it'd be doable.
Now streaming per se I don't know. My 7700K can stream everything without me noticing any changes in any games I'm playing.

Regarding AMD, correct me if I'm wrong but :
1400, 1500X and 1600 = Wrath Spire included
1600X = NO Wrath Spire
is that correct? I checked over Amazon from my country and the 3 had it in their description but not the 1600X. I tried googling but everyone is saying something different.

can't play GPU intensive games until my pcie extender cable arrives because my soundcard is making my GPU starve for air ;_;
why are all those cable manufacturers from fucking china even? If there were any europeans one i'd buy it in an heartbeat because i have absolutely 0 trust in chinese product

>>60602443
>Could I get a breakdown on AMD motherboards (which ones are the most recommended?)
A320 chipsets are the entry level chipset with the least amount of features. The one most people go for is the B350 chipset, which allows overclocking. Top tier AMD board is the X370 chipset, which does overclocking like the B350 but adds SLI and Crossfire support.

Most recommended at the moment:
Asrock B350M Pro 4 (Micro ATX)
Asrock B350 Pro 4 (ATX)
Asus Prime B350 Plus (ATX)
Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3 (ATX)
MSI B350 PC Mate
MSI B350 Tomahawk
MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic
MSI B350M Mortar Arctic
MSI B350M Mortar
MSI B350M Bazooka

Those are the best B350 boards at the moment, which are the ones everyone is going for. The Gigabyte board had a dual Bios which is neat, and IIRC, the Asus board has the highest ram compatibility.

Corsair Vengeance, G.Skill Fortis, Kingston Hyper Fury X, G.Skill Trident, and G.Skill Flare X Ram kits have the highest compatibility with Ryzen.

>>60602534
1400 is wraith stealth, 65w cooler (worse than spire)
you are correct about the rest

>>60600551
This only applies if you bought a PSU with multiple rails(i.e. a cheap shitty one.)

>>60600811
fuck off butthurt shill

>>60601067
for 95% of tasks you're likely to encounter, yes.

>>60601971
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

>>60602062
>RX 580
literally unavailable

>>60602500
>GNU/Linux

Colloquially known as Linux by every normal human

>>60602534
>Regarding AMD, correct me if I'm wrong but :
>1400, 1500X and 1600 = Wrath Spire included
>1600X = NO Wrath Spire
close but not quite.
The 1400 comes with the Wraith Stealth (a smaller version of the spire, and not as capable. The 1500X, 1600 and 1700 come with the Spire. The 1700 also has an RGB ring, but only the 1700 gets that version.

Actually the 1400 seems to have a Wrath Stealth rather than a Wrath Spire - is this legit? How different are they?

>>60602568
>>60602587
Yeah I see, thanks. I suppose if I go down the 4c/8t route for her the 1500X would be good pick then.

>>60602561
Thanks for the list, very much appreciated. Has AMD released their RAM update or whatever they were supposed to do?
If I were to buy 3200mhz RAM with say the Asrock 350 board you recommended, would it work? If Intel I wouldn't worry much about RAM frequency but AMD CPUs seem to love high RAM speed so it seems like a good investment.

>>60602580
>fuck off butthurt shill
They recommended an i3 7350k. Defend this bullshit.

>>60602587
)
you forgot to close your parenthesis

>>60602597
>Has AMD released their RAM update or whatever they were supposed to do?
The Update is in the hands of the motherboard manufacturers and will be coming out soon as part of bios updates

>>60602597
AMD has given the update to motherboard manufacturers over a week ago already, it's up to them to make bioses for it now which they are all presumably working on

Is the 1060's 3 GB of memory as big of a gimp as it sounds like it will be? Muh textures

>>60602604
Thanks. I have a habit of that.

>>60602625
Yes, RX 570 literally a better choice be cause of this

>>60602493
alrighty thanks

>>60602534
You literally can't stream on a dual core. Streaming is sometimes more CPU heavy than the game itself.

Guys is there a reason to get a M.2 SSD? I mainly play games nd shit with a regular ssd. Whats the difference as in something thats going to effect me? Should I just get 1tb ssd for games + os? or get a 500gb m.2 ssd for os and 1tb ssd for games?

>>60602448
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLhCPs

>>60602614
>>60602618
I see, what sucks though is that I'd need to update the BIOS myself as their stock boards won't have it and I'm sort of paranoid doing so.

>>60602597
>I suppose if I go down the 4c/8t route for her the 1500X would be good pick then.
Actually, if she's gonna be streaming, I'd recommend the Ryzen 5 1600 at minimum. 6 cores, 12 threads. plenty to run any games with enough leftover to run the streaming software. Best case would be a Ryzen 7 1700 though since it has 8 cores and 16 threads.

>>60602534
>>60602633
Also BF1 is extremely well optimized and therefore is not representative of how your average game will perform. If she plans to play meme survival games a pentium simply won't cut it.

>>60602648
just get any of the Ram kits mentioned here and you'll be good.
>>60602561

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>>60602639
no performance benefit for gaming, only useful if you are hard pressed for room in a compact case

>>60602671
BTW< Ryzen LOVES fast ram. The chip uses 2 CCX's. If a core from CCX 1 wants to communicate to a core in CCX2, it has to use the infinity fabric connecting them which runs at the same speed as the ram, so fast ram kits make a HUGE performance improvement on Ryzen. 3000 to 3200 mhz seems to be the cap right now, though some have managed to use 3600 mhz.

>>60602580
>This only applies if you bought a PSU with multiple rails(i.e. a cheap shitty one.)
but it's from the seasonic site which I assume don't sell shitty psus?

>>60602695
Is it better to get a 500gb ssd + a 1tb ssd? 500gb for OS and 1tb ssd for game data?

>>60602300
Your real fuckup was buying any 770 instead of a 280X or 290.

>>60602465
Dang you got memed all over.
Is a 550Ti even better than the iGPU on that?

>>60602639
>Guys is there a reason to get a M.2 SSD?
It's smaller and attaches to the motherboard.

Also Guys, whats the best SSD Brand to get? Im going to buy a 500gb and a 1tb version.

>>60602740
MX300 and SU800 are the best two for the prices.
850 Evo if you want to spend 30% more for 1-9% faster speed.

>>60602750
>MX300
But I heard samsung lasts longer? Is that bullshit? I want something that lasts at least 3 years. I head ssds die within certain times or w/e Sorry im kind of new to ssds.

>>60602730
If you have the money to blow then why not, but do you need the extra speed for a tb of games? If i were you i'd just partition the 500gb sdd and buy an hdd. Install the games you want the speed for and put the rest on the hard drive.

>>60602629
RX570 doesn't exist. I don't want a 1060, but it's the only fucking option.

>>60602768
I wanna move on from hdds. I get 1mins+ Loading screens while all my friends get under 30secs. I wanna experiance that.

>>60602775
Not even the 470 exists in your country?

>>60602655
After looking at the prices the 1600 seems like the best bet since it's only 35-40€ more expensive than the 1500X for 2c/4t more yeah.
1700 nah, if I were to buy a R7 I'd just get a 1800X for myself and give her my 7700K.

>>60602661
You're right.

>>60602671
>>60602701
Yeah, thanks.

Just noticed the 1800X was 500 bucks haha. 1700X I mean then.

>>60602787
Every fucking 4xx and 5xx card has been gobbled up by miners and fippers. Fucking paper launch bullshit

>>60602780
I keep all of my multiplayer games on my 512gb sdd and sp games on the harddrive and it works for me, but if you believe you'll get your use out of two ssds then go for it.

Guys are ADATA SU800 SSDS good?

I want to SLI two cards just because I think it would look nicer in my case.

What are two cheap cards worth SLI-ing, preferably with the performance of a 1070?

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>>60602927

>>60602927
>I want to SLI two cards just because I think it would look nicer in my case.
You're retarded.

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Can any ausfags tell me if I'm memeing myself on costs here? Will this rig be suitable for AAA games plus running shit like Unity and Blender?
Also, regardless of whether or not it's a meme, I'd like surround sound. Any suggestions? I'd rather mid range than budget.
>Immersive!

>>60602892
Yes, very.

>>60602953
Forgot link, durrr.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pXxPs

>>60602950
You're not helpful.

>>60603007
he's pointing out a really important problem that you have, so yes, he is being helpful

>>60602965
its shit

here is a better one: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zMfq8K

>>60602892
unlike hard drives, there's a lot more companies that make acceptable SSDs. BAsically, anybody who has a good reputation in the RAM market, their SSDs are trustworthy.

Guys whats the most Reliable HDD? I Do not care about speed. As long as it can survive for the next 5 years. I want at least 6tb for data storage. I heard WD Black is probably the best? Anyone can give me some advice?

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Any ITX case recommendations for a home server

>>60603096
HGST drives and heliumemes

>>60603112
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Internal-Hard-Drives/HGST-Ultrastar-7K6000-HDD-Serial-ATA-III/B00XUDJXUW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495848607&sr=8-1&keywords=HGST+6tb

So this one?

>>60603134
Should do.

>>60603105
A 1u chassis

>>60603105
http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-y6/

My RX 560 is a piece of shit. I got the 4gb OC edition. It's rated for 400w, and I have a 600w psu. I've reinstalled drivers after using ddu in safe mode. Help me, please I beg you

muh guys

so imma get myselv Nvidia 1050 cuz my ATI be ded so i haven't change much in the last few years gib some advice.

I got 880gxh Asrock motherboard
with a AMD 1A02C3W00 CPU its like quad 2.3~4 650W PSU and like 6gb ram i might get a SSD and maybe a new HDD but we'll see and i got a budget of like 200$ for my video card so any advice on new parts that i can buy this summer that will last me for like 4-5 years at least

How bad is using 1x8GB RAM when it comes to games?

I know dual-channel gives me a reasonable boost since im using a IGPU but if i used a GPU would this matter at all?

>>60603301
it still matters somewhat, dual channel ram gives you twice the bandwidth, but I don't know enough to give you a detailed explanation

>>60600920
Get the Aorus. Paying that much for a 580 is stupid. You're getting into 1070 territory at that price.

Recently built a computer but i have noticed hicups when i play games, what could be causing this?

Its not even intensive, im playing 2hu.

Guuys is Ryzen 1700x + Gtx 1080 Asus Strix + 144hz 1440p Monitor good combo? Cant afford anything better I know the 1080 ti is a go for 1440p but 1080 is the only option i got. Please give me advice.

>>60603368
what will you use your build for? if it's only gaming then you could swap the 1700x + 1080 for a 1600 + 1080 ti.

>>60603368
Also my room gets pretty how. First time buying AMD. Can you guys assure me it wont cause a melt down?

>>60603381
Its Gaming + i got a lot of heavy work programs T_T. But mainly gaming. Also was planning to run a server for some stuff.
>>60603382
I meant hot*

>>60603382
if you get a good cooler and don't do crazy voltages and overclock, no

>>60603382
>Can you guys assure me it wont cause a melt down?
No.

You are buying AMD because its cheap, not because its good.

>>60603430
specify cooler

>>60603439
Well shilled, my friend.

>>60603475
Heatsink fan.

>>60602759
Ya that's bullshit.
Just check the user reviews. If I'm not mistaken, users rate those 2 higher.

Reviewers can't properly test for longevity.

>>60602759
No is not bullshit.
Crucial uses some shady NAND, their "MLC" NAND is too cheap and you can literally see it dying unlike with any 3D TLC NAND SSD.

>>60599599
This is an AMD shill thread, where have you been?

So, what the fuck am I supposed to buy for my PC rebuild now that 580 are all fucking gone?

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>>60603480
>responding to falseflaggers

>>60603531
a sub $250 fury

When do you change cases? Mine is old, bad cable management and the power led isn't compatible with my new motherboard, but it's high quality. Is it totally inconsequential if I'm not overclocking?

>>60603567
>tfw been using the same case for 5 years
Granted the cable management is good for mine I really wouldn't bother upgrading the case unless you're having heat issues or the cables look like complete shit and make it a pain in the ass to move shit around

>>60603504
>Crucial uses some shady NAND
>you can literally see it dying
???
Do we have a samsung shill now? This makes my head hurt.

>>60600551
Na it says Above 225w GPu

Good That's what the 1080ti and that's pretty much it ?

god damn ssd's are still expensive. I havent really looked at them the past couple years. I did pay about $160 for a 256GB but that was 2-3 years ago...

>>60603531
1060 6gb

>>60603603
Well then everyone is a shill in this thread for recommending quality products.

So wait hold up is Crucial MX300 bad? Im about to buy it please guys whats bad about it?

>>60603619
And i paid $35 for 8GB RAM but now its $60~-
Blame price fixing.

>>60603671
Its not bad, it works, its good but is not the best you cant get.

>>60603681
Whats the top 3 in your opinion? Just wanna check.

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Anyone know a good white colored PSU of at least gold efficiency and 750w besides the Snowsilent series?

>>60603700
850 EVO/PRO.
SU800.

If the SSD doesn't use 3D NAND then its not worth it.

>>60603681
Well thats shitty, and yeah just mocked up a new PC DDR4 aint cheap either. Good thing I wont build for 2 more years to replace my 2012 pc

>>60603226
Useful information 0 in what you posted.
Help
Help me with ?
Nothing .

>>60603748
> 850 EVO

Doesnt this not use 3D NAND?

>>60603763
It uses Samsung 3D NAND, which is called V-NAND.

>>60602804
HAHA poorfag.

But really, they go on sale for $425ish pretty often on like ebay, frys, microcenter.

Not a bad price considering it's faster than a $1700 6950X in many cases in both single and multithreaded.

Ok Guys, After Deciding for Hours This is my PC, Going to buy it tomorrow. Please Rate + if you have any opinions please share and be kind this is my first.

> Reason I need it
Mainly for Games/Servers/Heavy Duty Programs

>Why That AIO It Sucks
It looks cool as fuck.

>Budget £2.25k-£2.3k

>My Monitors
144hz Asus 1440p Monitor Mainly use it for games.

1440p Multimedia Asus Monitor. Use it for porn.

> Computer Im Buying

>SSD
Samsung 850 EVO 1tb + 500gb

>HDD For Porn nd shit
Hitachi Ultrastar 7K6000

>Cooler
NZXT RL-KRX52-01 240 mm Kraken

>PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 W G3

>Ram
G.SKILL 16 GB Trident Z RGB

>GPU
Asus ROG Strix GeForce STRIX-GTX1080

>MOBO
ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO AMD X370

>CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X

>Case
Phanteks EVOLV ATX

>>60603853
what is an united kingdoms babby doing up at 4 am

>>60603867
I work night shifts as cyber security. Thats why im posting bored as fuck.

>>60603867
>an united

>>60603894
>>60603867
Can you guys just review my pc? We can talk about that on another thread.

>>60603917
no fuck you go to sleep

>>60603853
Drop the AIO HSF, thats it, everything else looks good.

>>60603961
Was planning to overclock it, Also wondering if its possible to overclock ryzen 1700x to 4.0ghz?

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Hi /pcbg/
>Using for
Starting out streaming (hopefully 720p 60fps), gaymen, light animation and drawing
>Country
burger
>Programs/Games I use regularly
Nothing all that crazy, i'd like to play newish games at max settings,1080p 60+fps if I can. The most resource heavy program I use is photoshop and adobe flash (or whatever I feel like learning in that area), some shitty DAC like FLstudio... oh and also OBS/Xsplit for the streaming.
>resolution & hz
1080p/144hz and later on i'll pick up a something smaller for a second monitor, maybe 1280 x 720.
>budget
$800-$900 USD

>>60604027
I am not in the mood for this shit.

>>60603776
>HAHA poorfag.
The 1700X is even cheaper than the 1700 here.

325€ for the 1700X and 525€ for the 1800X. 1700 is 340€.
Perfs are 3.4/3.9 against 3.6/4.1.
200mhz isn't worth 200€ m8.

But either way I'm pretty happy with my 7700K; although I'd love to try Ryzen too that'd be dumb to buy another high end computer for what I do. If AMD keeps it up being cool I'll try them next time I need to change PC.

>>60604027
You're not going to get more than sixty FPS at 1080 on that budget, at least not on any AAA game of the past year or two. A 144Hz 1080p monitor is $200-250 by itself.

Go to http://www.logicalincrements.com/ and look at the top line of the "very good" category. That's what you'd get to have enough left over for the monitor.

Here are some benchmarks of the video card in what I just showed you http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1869

It's insufficient for a consistent 60fps in many of the game benchmarked. Only one game exceeded 80fps.

Unless you only intend to be playing older games, I suggest you ditch 144hz better ensure you maintain 60fps, especially considering streaming is going to hurt your framerate.

>>60600743
Yeah they're all up to date.

CPU:AMD RYZEN 1700
Mainboard:GIGABYTE GA-AB350 Gaming 3
Ram:Samsung DDR4 8G PC4-19200 x2
Graphics:GIGABYTE GTX 1080ti AORUS Xtreme D5X 11GB
Case:CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES CLEAR 600C
Power:CORSAIR RM650x 80PLUS GOLD
Monitor:Samsung qhd 32" 60hz

what do you think guys?

>>60603758
>>60603758
It boots, but Windows is very unstable. If I launch a game, it'll either run like shit, or won't launch with various errors. DOOM doesn't detect a valid monitor. My gtx 560 448 ran both of those games at decent frames so I have no clue what's going on

>>60604230
I see.
What if I opt out on the 144hz monitor and just stick with my 60hz 1080p I have now? It isn't a priority for me to have one right this moment, and i'd rather spend my full budget on the build itself.
This logical increments site, is it reliable? It says right on the page that this isn't a build guide.

I don't know shit about OC'ing ram but if I bought 3200 would it be possible for it to be OC'd to 4000 or a bit below that?

>>60604368
>What if I opt out on the 144hz monitor and just stick with my 60hz 1080p I have now?
That money you save will go a long way to helping you maintain 60fps on new games. You can scroll down to the "superb" category and look there. I suggest ignoring the rx580 because there aren't any in stock anywhere. Your benchmarks with the 1060 will look like this http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1771 You can go without the SSD shown in the guide to keep it within your budget.

>This logical increments site, is it reliable?
For someone who has to ask around to what parts to be using for a given budget, it's a useful tool for putting together a balanced build. You use it as a starting point, you check for deals on the parts in and around your price range, you put together your own selection, and you ensure everything on your list is compatible with everything else.

Remember, you can do better than what's listed because of how prices change all the time. The guide is your starting point, it's up to you to ensure you're getting the best deal.

>It says right on the page that this isn't a build guide.
That's just legal bullshit to protect them from God knows what lawsuit people come up with.

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Is it time for me to get a new PC?
This is my build from 2014.

The new build I am planning is
6700k
H170 Pro
1080ti
P400

Everything else will be scrapped from my current build

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Why is 2 inches $200 more

>>60604552
Trow a new GPU and thats it, your build is fine unless there is something you max CPU wise currently.

>>60599412
de_dust2 a shit

>>60604561
Gonna replace the casing for sure 100%. It has white mold on it and other disgusting shit.

>>60604554
Ask anybody who's ever hired a gigolo.

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>>60604525
>You use it as a starting point
Now I understand, thank you for the help.

>>60604554
Dell is scammers buy Benq

>>60602892
I've got one and its pretty good. Reasonably high 4k speed though lower than samsung's and as long as you avoid transferring files larger than 1/3rd of the drives capacity (the size of the SLC pseudo-cache which is just the top layer of TLC) in a short time no slowdowns for writes. Write amplification seems minimal too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdtPd6

Trying to build a cheap HTPC that can do some light gaming. It's mostly for watching shit in the living room.
Is streaming games from my desktop via steam a good option to get cost down?

>>60604719
Does anyone have any experience with these
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3506497

Looks like this bundle only needs an OS.

>>60604554
2 inches diagonal is 25 more square inches of screen.

>>60604753
>goldmont celeron.
It's not worth more than $150 assembled.
For the ultra low budget get a used office PC.

>>60604856
>25 more square inches of screen.
out of how many

What's a good mobo and RAM to pair with a 1600? I've been thinking about a Gigabyte Gaming 3 and G Skill TridentZ.

g4560 or i5 2320/2400

>>60605268
They're basically the same performance wise but LGA1151 has more room for upgrade.
If you can find a sandy bridge system for a good deal less then that's good too.

>>60605268
4560 ofc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Lgk3F

how does this look?

why are monitors so expensive? Plan to use some kind of vesa mount

At this point does it look like Vega is going to be a full new lineup or just merely a high end supplement to Polaris?

lads, I still need a gpu for my build and mediamarkt in germany has the pny gtx 1050 ti on offer

https://geizhals.de/pny-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gf105igtx4gepb-vcggtx1050t4pb-a1527571.html

Is pny a good manufacturer or are they shit? Sucks that it doesn't have a zero fan modus but I can live with it I guess.

>>60605636
>Is pny a good manufacturer or are they shit?
Some of the worst.
Also Single fan GPUs are not a great idea, specially the pure aluminium ones like the one you posted or the Zotac Mini version.

>>60605559
yes

>>60603523
fuck off img_xxxx

>>60603853
looks good

>>60605510
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8gk3F

>>60605809
whats wrong with the monitors i picked?

Should I get a 1050 ti, or a r9 380x if I don't care about power consumption?

>>60605653
>>60605636
/What about this one then?

https://geizhals.de/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-oc-4g-gv-n105toc-4gd-a1526015.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl

Most dual fan cards have a external connector for power I think. This one doesn't don't really want it for a few more mhz desu.

>>60605510
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Lgk3F
>why are monitors so expensive?
They aren't? Just Gsync ones are. Maybe you should wait for Vega if you don't want to pay an extra 30-100% idiot-tax on the monitor.

You can get 4K Freesync monitors for $300-$400.
Gysnc ones are $600 because nvidiots have more money than sense.

>>60605880
380X is a bit better and the power consumption is really not that bad. It's not as bad as the 7970 GHz edition.
Plus you don't have nvidia requiring you to register an account and other dumb shit with it just to use basic features that shouldn't require an account.

I hope Vega's 1070 competitor is a fair bit better than the 1070. I'm on a 1060 and would like to upgrade to a card that does 1440p better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdsVPs

>>60605892
Oh you are looking for the PCIe powered versions only?

>>60605875
you only need 1

>>60605945
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZMLLD
here this is better

>>60606018
never really looked into ryzen, why is it better in your opinion?

>>60605998
what's so bad about two?

>>60602062
A 256 GB SSD is always faster than a 120.

>>60606192
you don't fucking need it you dumb nigger

>>60606214
ive been using two monitors for years

>i dont need it

?

baka

>>60606231
why not 3?

Are there any decent cases available that include a right side facing I/O?

>>60606261
well thats the plan

>>60606269
I'd like to run a 3 monitor setup but I just can't justify the extra cost. Wouldn't a big 4k tv work better than 3 monitors? Might not be cheaper but would look nicer.

>>60606292
the way i would want my setup to be is have a 1080p240hz on the side, 1440p100+ in the middle and 4k large panel on top. With some kind of system to shift the 240hz in the middle when I want to play overwatch. Totally overkill

welcome back

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>>60606596

Darkness my old friend.

Any reasonable alternative to the NH-D15? The only issue I have with it is the Noctua beige&brown.

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>>60606641

Cryorig R1 ultimate
Thermalright Silver arrow (both the regular and extreme edition)
Phaneteks TC14PE

>>60606641
Fairly sure you can strap other fans on it like Be Quiet ones, Phanteks ones or anything 140mm that has the same mounting mechanism. Those high end heatsinks are not made to be used solely with the stock fan.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hdHwJV

Ordered the parts yesterday. Thoughts on my 4k gaming pc, /g/?

>>60606674
What's the point of a 7700k if you don't have a high refresh rate screen?

>>60606673

>Those high end heatsinks are not made to be used solely with the stock fan.

Yes, they are. They are high end precisely because they ship witrh good fans. Any fucker can make a heatsink but very few ship said heatsinks with quality fans.

I have assembled the following:
R7 1700x @3.9ghz
16gb LPX 3000mhz @2666
R9 390x
Asus X370 prime

Pls state your opinions

>>60606702
it's good, did you buy the GPU recently too?
If so, at what prcie?

I have a spare 290x.
What should I do with it?

>>60606722
Sell it and get a high end air cooler with the money that will serve you for the next 7 years

Reasons to buy RX580 over GTX1060?

>>60606732
Its out of warrenty and there is corrosion on the fins. I doubt it will fetch a high price.

>>60600043
>>60600054
>>60600090
hes talking about refresh rates. morons.

>>60606747
Can still get probably a good price on it like $100 or $80 at worst. If i was on a budget i'd definitely buy it at such a price, even with corrosion.

>>60606704
390x I bought back in the days when it was pretty expensive. I bought it rather than 970.

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>>60606744
Tends to be perform better on newer games & newer APIs, and supports Freesync

>>60606766
I will see who I can sell it to.

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Country: Belarus (republic of, google it)

Purprose: Photoshop, After Effects and gaming - GTA 5, R6 Siege, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, latest Deus Ex and also being able to run Cyberpunk 2077 at least on low medium

Resolution: 1080p 60/75 hz

Budget: around 800 usd

Goal: my 6100/550ti is dying

I already have a Corsair cx600, 128 gb plextor ssd and a xonar dgx i want to plug into the new system. 16 Gb of ram would be nice.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

>>60606817
R5 1600 & GTX 1060 would suit you well
you'll have to make the build yourself though.

second time ever building a PC

i was thinking of getting this storage:

>Samsung - 960 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
>Samsung - 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive

but pcpartpicker keeps showing me this message with every motherboard i try
>The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with a SATA Express port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA Express port is disabled.

so what exactly does that mean?

>>60607055
It means not enough PCIe lane to feed both storage at the same time. What motherboard is this?
Also, both of those SSD are overpriced.
Why do you want to spend that much on SSDs by the way?

>>60605943
when'll that be out?

>>60607108
Likely within the next 2 months

>>60607084
I need fast storage, i do audio&3d stuff. But i didn't really look around for other stuff than samsung. Anything really good you would recommend instead?

Because of the current setup with external audio interfaces i needed to pick from motherboards that have 'audio over usb' stable 5v power supply.
PCpartpicker shows that message with other mobos too

>X99S GAMING 9 AC
>X99S GAMING 9 ACK
>X99S GAMING 7
>X99A GODLIKE GAMING
>X99A GODLIKE GAMING CARBON

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