WTF happened to Japanese technology?

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anime sex robots

Jap baby-boomers are all retired. Their kid and grandkids are not of the same caliber.

>10 years ago

Try 20, or 25.

They're stuck somewhere 20 years ago.

The japs are still the best at coming up with the ideas, the chinks just take their ideas and use a combination of cheaper materials, slave labour and disturbingly lax pollution laws to make the same thing at quarter the price.

I miss their laptop computers, cool foldable phones, the design of their websites (see niconico video <3 ) etc. Such cool shit we'll never have. Google and siblings produces piles of steamin g shit compared to solid jap tech. Even jap cars are tougher.

>>60597093
Softbank owns ARM, 1/3 of Nvidia and they're interested in deep learning tech. So don't interfere, japs are fine.
>>60597114
> anime sex robots
Did you mean: chobits?

>>60597093
Japanese technology in general is fine, they just don't export consumer products as much as they used to.

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They're working on stuff

>>60597117

>Jap baby-boomers are all retired

No they're not, and that's the problem. That's why innovation has stifled. The same old ass businessmen who run all these companies won't ever retire and won't ever diverge from the same old shit.

That's why they've fallen out of popularity.

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>>60597168
>Softbank owns ARM, 1/3 of Nvidia and they're interested in deep learning tech. So don't interfere, japs are fine.
they don't make shit tho! they just dumped some of their profits into companies that others own. that won't do shit to save jap tech!

nip programmers are awful

the chinese are MUCH better in this regard

Doesn't Panasonic make laptops anymore? Just buy the latest one
>>60597197
just because of this i want try to learn japanese but i know i'm too retarded for that and don't want to look like a weaboo
Xenophobia is also a bonus

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>>60597197
>Japanese technology in general is fine, they just don't export consumer products as much as they used to.
Heh? Nope. Something like 70% of smartphones sold in japan are iphones. Even smartphones in anime are like 80% of phones.


Is SONY even making money anymore???

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>>60597093
Yep, noticed the same thing too. Japan doesn't even make their own phones anymore, it's all Korea or China, at least in that region

When it comes to computers, still mainly China or America (Made in China, lol)

Rice cookers are all Korean, television sets are either Korean or some obscure company, etc.

The only decent thing Japan has made recently are ANC headphones (pic related), automobiles to a certain extent, and arguably PS4

It's very sad because I really love the way Japanese design their electronics, has a distinct hi-caliber feel to all of them

Korean and Chinese slave workers are cheaper than Japanese workers.

>>60597291
Are we talking specifically about consumer electronics or what? OP just said 'technology'.

Fujitsu is one of the biggest tech companies in the world. Honda is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines. Anime girls aren't using keitaidenwas anymore but the big stuff is still there.

I have a Daisy BB pistol that says Made in Japan. As a kid of the 80's, it's been a long time since I've seen that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1QcjsjjtRc

>>60597093
Literally what you said. China and Klrea took over when their economy started slowing down, and they're left with big just a few big tech companies like Sony, Panasonic, etc.

>>60597412
Wow i really fucked up this post

>>60597299
These headphones are shit and the warranty is shit. Look at the forums and there's a lot of people complaining about the headband snapping in the exact same place. Sony told them to stop using them wrong and go fuck themselves

>>60597254
wtf is that?

>He thinks Japanese technology went off the radar 10 years ago

Maybe, but it started with the end of the post-war economic miracle ending in a recession, making consumer companies less bullish about selling internationally.

>This economic miracle was the result of post-World War II Japan and West Germany benefiting from the Cold War.[dubious ] It occurred chiefly due to the economic interventionism of the Japanese government and partly due to the aid and assistance of the U.S.[1]

>WTF happened?
You stopped looking.
Panasonic makes batteries for everybody, and they make all sorts of great electronics including the best wintel laptops in the world. Sony is everywhere, as is Toshiba. Makita tools have a cult following due to their high quality and tool selection. Seiko and Casio are probably the most popular watch brands in the world. Japanese cars are everywhere. Boeing uses a fair amount of Japan manufactured parts in their aircraft. Japan also makes great amateur radios if you're a gay nerd like me who's into that stuff.

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Quick, post some great japtech from past or present!

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>>60597483

>>60597433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkcKaNqfykg&feature=youtu.be

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>>60597500

>>60597434
>japanese government interference in the market caused an economic miracle

Fucking keynesians never learn, do they? Fuck off.

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>>60597093
>How do we make Japan tech great again?
Me and lots of other white men need to go over and colonize their women with your big white cocks.

Has anyone saw any panasonic smartphones? I haven't see any of them in my country

http://m.gsmarena.com/panasonic-phones-6.php

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>>60597168
>Did you mean: chobits?
More like Gynoid(s)

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>>60597596
great fucking idea! take your dibs.

>>60597483
[Woah woaahs Internally]

>>60597429
Did you own those headphones? I just paid $$$ for them based on positive reviews I read online

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>>60597759
I don't own nor want to own the fucking things.
https://community.sony.com/t5/Headphones/Sony-MDR-1000X-left-side-of-bracket-broken-in-10-days/td-p/613977

https://community.sony.com/t5/Webcast-Discussion/MDR-1000X-Headband-Cracks/td-p/619760

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/309028

>>60597685
> reasonable
> Macbook
Ehehehehe.

>>60597806
Welp, I'll have to return them, oh well

>>60597624
http://business.panasonic.com/toughpad/us/rugged-handheld-fz-n1.html
I got you

>>60597291
Sony is only making money from PlayStation and their movies

>>60597955
> and their movies
> Ghostbusters
> Spider Man
> What else?

>>60597254
>robot
>doesn't interact with physical environment

dumb Japs

>>60597093
>10 years ago
And 20 years before it before Chinese "cheap shit" boom happened Japan was what China is now.
Cheap garbage.

>>60597806
Well what ANC headphones would you recommend? /g/ recommended either QC35 or MDR1000X and I went with the Sony one based on positive reviews. I heard bad things about QC35...

>>60597477
>Panasonic
>great

it is just a standard laptop

>>60598029
ANC is usually a meme most people don't need or can't use anyways. There's a thread on Reddit every now and then about some cunt buying noise cancelling headphones and complaining because they won't block his dog barking or loud neighbors blasting nigger.
The Momentum 2 Wireless have ANC but I'm not sure how good it is.
I'd probably go for Bose assuming your use case will actually benefit from ANC (mostly repetitive drone noise like engines)

>>60597912
that is fucking great,it even has 3 year warranty
too bad my country doesn't allow import of phones tho

>>60597981
They make all those dumb animated movies that make bank, but not having any franchise/big brand material is a real problem

>>60597981
Emoji movie? Can't forget that gem

>>60597429
>Sony told them to stop using them wrong and go fuck themselves
You act surprised at that response from Sony ....

>>60597093
Generation NEET came. Now there is only hentai.

>>60598069
Thanks, my main use case is riding the bus but also airplane travel as well. Pity I have to return these but good thing I figured this out sooner than later

>>60597536
Isn't this an off the shelf chinese drip coffee maker hooked up to their proprietary battery system?

It doesn't even look shop quality.

>>60597596
watch less anime you fat fuck.

>>60598279
Don't return them because one fat fuck on 4chan told you to. The reviews are good for a reason. They're a good buy.

>>60598452
Reviewers use a product for a week and forget about it.
You need to look into long term user reviews to learn about any potential failures like the headband snapping.
Even on Amazon they have 4.5 stars and at on of 1 star reviews mention the exact same headband snapping issue.
The question is do you feel lucky enough to not be affected by this? because Sony already stated they do not stand behind their product and any breakage is on you

>>60597093
Globalization happened.

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>>60598001
And it will happen to China and Korea too, soon there won't be any countries making anything worth buying. Quality of goods and then quality of life will be sacrificed upon global capital's profane altar of profit, in pursuit of the inhuman economics of efficiency and centralization. We should have listened.

>>60597093
their economy is collapsing

>>60599491
>We should have listened.
I listened. I bought stocks :^)

>>60597093
>How do we make Japan tech great again?
How about you start with their retarded society?
http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan/

>>60597955
sony's largest earner is their massive financial arm

>>60597433
japan birthrate killer

>>60597982
>virtual
>expecting physical interaction
dumb burger

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>>60597093
You realize this is a picture of a cartoon right?

>>60597093
a b e n o m i c s

>>60597449
>Makita tools have a cult following due to their high quality and tool selection

They are mostly made in China though. Good tools. I recommend them for pros and hobbyists.

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>>60597254
>come home from work
>try to open door
I can't let you do that onii-chan

Koreans are the new Japanese

>>60597093
computing moved into the mainstream
cheap manufacturing became the norm
consumerism started dictating upgrading hardware every few years

>>60597093
They clearly need virile immigrants to boost their weakened population up

>>60599578
that wasn't a problem when they were on top of the industry in the 80s and 90s and the newer generation is more global facing


their problems are much bigger than culture

>>60597150
>The japs are still the best at coming up with the ideas
bullshit, the Japanese can't invent for shit

They're amazing at taking something and perfecting its design but they can't innovate

>>60597291
the Xperia line doesn't even try to have market relevance. Shame too because with the right marketing they could have been a proper Android handset (imagine a Nexus/Pixel made by Sony)

Japan still dominates the camera industry so there's that. Most DSLRs used to be Japanese made, but I don't think that's true anymore. Mine was made in Taiwan.

>>60597536
>just realized makita is Jap
wew
hitachi makes good power tools. have a compressor that's been working flawlessly for over a decade now with a history of heavy use for most of its life

>>60600812
America's birth rates would be going in that direction if it weren't for black people and immigrants

Race mixing is perfectly natural. If you took a bunch of white people and plopped them into Japan, you would have a huge generation of half Japanese kids a decade later.

>>60597093
Japan had / has a lot of the supply chain in China. China is just doing it all now.

And all without the fucking annoying methods that you often need to use to buy shit in Japan.

... seriously, the effort required to buy Japanese products that aren't the few international shipping ones on Amazon can be ridiculous. Maybe they should solve that first and do business with us directly, from plastic waifus to smartphones and computers.

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>>60597114
2B IS NOT FOR LEWD DELET THIS IMMEDIATELY

>>60597849
Macs don't have black screen vessels

The Japanese just haven't really made anything very new and very good in a while. It seems like they advance rather slowly nowadays 'cause their old way doesn't cut it anymore.

Kinda like what happened to Nokia: they were always sometimes slow in jumping on new trends (it took them ages to release flip phones, too) so they practically crumbled when iPhones and Android phones got good. Same probably happened with Japanese phones: suddenly everyone wanted something different and they reacted too slowly, then iPhone had already conquered their market when the truth hit em.

Maybe something similar happened to other kinds of electronics as well. Plus the whole price thing, China is cheaper and so on and can nowadays do a lot of the products without outside help.

You always hear horrible things about Japanese work culture, too: and I don't just mean the overwork thing, but also that they have shitloads of totally useless office workers who they make do inefficient shit like copy spreadsheets by typing them in. Their culture is kind of appearances-based, so maybe that has something to do with it: it is important to have the people looking busy and working, whether they're doing anything worthy or not.

>>60597849
desu a macbook is more reasonable than the typical cheapest lenovo/acer that normies usually buy

>>60597291

Xperia has that remaining 30%.


You either see Xperia or iPhones on the train. Everything else has minimal numbers.

I think I have seen 2 Samsung devices in the last year.

>>60597483

Stop browsing 4chan and get back to work, Kojima.

Show me a good non-japan camera
You can't

>>60601136

True

>>60601136
Leica? I mean say what you want about their modern-day target demographic but their cameras and especially optics are amazing

>>60598279

Keep them.

Even with the breaking band they are the bedt ANC on the market.

As long as you are a mongoloid they wont break either.

>>60597093
nip monkeys are only good at stealing

>>60597955

You mean insurance sales.

In reality though, their phones and cameras are actually doing okay.

>>60601136

Who buys cameras these days now that everyone has smartphones?

Top of the line shit is either US or European.

>>60601101
Well, we also haven't all innovated a whole new world of products in Europe, it's just still simply doing the old shit well and only a bunch of new things / improvements?

But unlike with Japan, I find it fucking easy to do business -even as a small time retail customer- with most European or US companies.

You want a random piece of furniture ordered from overseas? Mostly just ask to give the company manufacturing it to establish some quote for shipping it and a method for paying it. Even various retailers will do this kind of stuff.

Trying to do this with Japan? Ugh. Better find a inside-Japan proxy shipping service in advance - they're far more often than not just going to refuse to ship anything internationally.

>>60601155

Leica hasn't been relevant in decades.

They are a fashion brand now.

>>60601179
MILC and DSLR are still orders of magnitude better than smartphones.

Smartphones only really replace point and shoot cameras. Yes, that's what a lot of people used, but never really the professionals and hobbyists - and that's the same today.

>>60601136
and while I do count Leica as one, I'm guessing the Japs dominate cameras 'cause cameras evolve really slowly and you can really utilise having a lot of experience making them

>>60601179
uhh professional photographers? and hobbyists of course

>Top of the line shit is either US or European.
...no, professionals use the high end/pro-grade Nikon or Canon stuff

not so sure about videomaking tho

>>60601179
Me

>>60601190
yea, they sell to rich fucks and trendy cucks, but they're still good at making their stuff

>>60601197

>cameras evolve slowly

Sony has gone from irrelavent to duking it out with Nikon for number two in the camera industry specifically because they were willing to evolve quickly.

>>60601197
>>60601197

>professional photographers
>hobbyists

So a small percentage of the market, somewhere on the autism spectrum.

>>60601197
>not so sure about videomaking tho
Obviously not smartphones either, but often really rather expensive cinema and broadcast cameras.

Hobbyists may be using MILC or more modest digital cinema cameras and enthusiast camcorders and such. (Not generally a broadcast cameras since some $100k camera with a up to a $150k lens isn't inside normal people's hobby budget).

>>60601224
It doesn't stop them for being the best tech in the category. Unless /g/ accept nothing but consumer shit now.

>>60601250

They have decent video cameras. But even that is being eaten away by drones and gopros

>>60601216
it is still very slow compared to shit like what happened to smartphones in the late 00s, and there can be no complete break-offs from the old. stuff like optics is very slow in advancing. but yes you are right in how Sony grew.

>>60601224
>So a small percentage of the market,
I'd just go and call it a different market.

Japan toilets are way advanced than the rest of the world.

>>60601224
> So a small percentage of the market
Virtually all the media, ads, product catalogs, porn and so on that you see is produced with these.

Little is professionally published that comes from P&S cameras.

Despite the lower volume the professional and enthusiast gear is still probably around half or more of the market in terms of money.

I still see alot of japan name on construction tools, from small to huge ones.

>>60597483
YOU'RE SO SUPREME

>>60601284

I see a shit ton of amateur porn and ads done selfie style to keep try and relate to plebs.

Most of that pro grade equipment is rented for the project anyways because it's much cheaper than maintaining equipment in house.

>>60597955
Movies are literally killing Sony, they connected it to playstation to keep it alive

>tfw no arcades made in the west anymore

>>60597093
Japanese tech was never good. Japan typically excels at one tech area at the time while ignoring all else. In the past it was games, now it's robotics.

>>60601032
anon 2b is made for lewd
look at her bust size, attire, and weight
come on senpai

>>60597093
How do... we? We make it better? Anon, this isn't 2ch. No one under here has any reason to try and want to improve the quality of electronics coming out a country that isn't theirs. There's no loyalty to Japan that any of us owe. Who is selling us the shit we want? Cool, then maybe we'd want them to improve their shit because we're buying it up. But the whole premise of your point is that people are buying less and less of Japanese made goods and buying other east Asians.

If you wanted to make Japanese tech 'great again' you'd have to move to Japan and somehow start trying to influence public opinion to make the LDP create more tech jobs in japan and incentive companies to have the factories at home instead of in China. So, essentially raise taxes to give it to the companies just so that they'll let some poor sap work in their factories whose paycheck will contribute to that company again later so.

The Japanese already didn't like the increase in VAT. They're not going to like having to pay more for basic electronics just so they can feel good about Sony TVs being made at home.

>>60601413
what the fuck m8

what about televisions and stereos, and cameras

>>60601504

Samsung has televisions and sound systems are done by random players

>>60597483
Goddamn, how I wish they'd bring that model back.

>>60601514
I don't know about present but how about in the past

Japan surely excelled at video games, TV:s, sound systems, cameras and video games at the same time and that is probably ignoring some categories

>>60601527
They did a homage for MGSV, but people bought them all up and tripled the price. You can buy an old one with a faded screen and fix it for the cost of 4 capacitors and shipping, which is what I did.

>>60597255
>Humanity is aging
>we will see this shit all over the World
>Japan is simply Herald of technology stagnation that is to come.
Please tell me I am wrong

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Modern electronics are a numbers game.

The average consumer will buy the $400 1080p Samsung TV over the $800 1080p Sony TV.

It doesn't matter that the Samsung has a green tint and shit speakers, a single rca input, and undersized capacitors designed to blow the week after the warranty ends. It has the required "number" and that is all that matters.

Same thing with laptops and cellphones. People pick a number they want (ghz, ram, resolution, etc) then pick the cheapest option with it.

No one actually reads reviews or does research to find the best product anymore. They go for the cheapest that means their bare minimum needs.

And this makes sense, to a degree, most electronics will be outdated or break (electronics repair? hah!) within a year or two and need to be replaced. Why should they bother?

>>60601656
Even the companies that used to be reliable don't stand by their products anymore.
What do you expect.

>>60601588
Are those homages any good?

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>>60601693

For real.

Sony doesn't even bother to do warranty support in the United States anymore.

In Japan they will have you a new product the same day if something goes wrong.

Why is it the consumer gets fucked in the U.S. by everyone all the time, and no one seems to care?

>>60601694
Pros:
Looks nice
Decent build quality (from what I've heard)
Can display seconds and date (Original G757 can only display one at a time)
Full face illumination (Original G757 has a tiny incandescent bulb on the left side of the face)
Cons:
Original G757 looks better
Screen supposedly will wear out after 7 years
Even more unobtanium than original G757s

>>60601656

When big retailers like BB, WM etc.. Started to sell electronics, the smaller stores with actually knowledgeable staff all closed doors. then nobody were left to tell clients what models were better than others, exept price and publicity.

I hate big retailers because they aren't any better than online stores, just more convenient.

>>60601738

No local customer protection laws. It's that simple.

>>60597982
it's as worked so far with anime girls.

>>60601656
>People pick a number they want (ghz, ram, resolution, etc) then pick the cheapest option with it.
haven't really noticed this lately, except maybe for screen size but hey that actually makes sense as it really affects how the phone feels to use

even megapixels of the camera seem to matter less than years ago, I'd guess it is because every phone has a high number nowadays

people seem to be more concerned with brands, like they want a samsung because they had a samsung before and thus buy the samsung that fits their budget, or they had a samsung before, hated it and now want something else

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>>60601830

Yea there is a stupid amount of brandfaggotry too.

Just look at console wars.

It is just sad to device that appeals to the lowest common denominator succeed, not the best one on the market.

>>60601210
why not consider Zeiss?
did they stop making cameras?

>>60602615
well he asked for "a camera", a lens is not a camera alone

>>60597262
why are those screenshots looking smudged? you aren't using one of those shitty filters, right anon?

>>60601656
>People pick a number they want (ghz, ram, resolution, etc) then pick the cheapest option with it.
Clearly this explains why applel are doing so well

>>60597536
>cordless
there's a cord right fucking there

>>60600945
I've never seen a hitchi motor fail yet. Not in tools or in hdd.

>>60597596

>>60600042
financial arm? what do they do with finances?

>>60601009
Its not the population of a piece of land, its the population of a race of people.
Stop with trying to turn the world grey you fucking shit kikes. Preservation of race is a good thing. Some people actually like variety.

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here's a replacement

>>60603103
variety is nice but so is having enough people to fucking support your country
you can't convince Japanese people or indeed white Americans to have more kids at this point because they know how much trouble comes from overpopulation and they know how much kids impede you from doing what you want and having more money, and it'll likely be their downfall

>>60597399

>Honda is the largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines

What about Yamaha, or Fuji Heavy Industries (currently known as Subaru)? They produce and design most, if not all, of Toyota's engines.

>>60597449

Your life support systems in most buildings (HVAC, boilers, medical air) are made by Mitsubishi.

>>60597516
T H I C C

>>60597093
Basic Income
Universal Healthcare
'Gap' years to have kids
Mandatory age 50 retirement

Not that you're required to totally stop working, but you have to shift to do something else.
Force out all the boomers who are making things stagnate and push them to try new things.

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>>60597262
>>60597477
>tfw CF-T8

Japan is primed for a comeback because they're starting to get a hold of their birth rate problem, their economy is going very well and now their prime minister is doing great work.

Give it time

>>60603257
your propaganda is not working Mr. Abe

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>>60603251
>>60597262
the CF in Panasonic's model designations stands for comfy.

>>60597516
have a cf-31 next to me. Beautiful piece of hardware. Would be perfect with a touchpoint

>>60603251
>>60603286
>tfw CF-47 CF-30 and CF-53*1.5
Feels good man

>>60603257
>, their economy is going very well
oh yeah, all those stagnant multinationals and non globalized local businesses are just great

Just look at Toshiba's success.

>>60600848
>They're amazing at taking something and perfecting its design but they can't innovate
And we're suppose to listen to the retard to doesn't know what innovate actually means.

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>>60601136

Hasselblad
Arri
BlackMagic Design
RED
Bunch of medium format and larger cameras

You're forgetting lens manufacturers, which is where things get crazy.

Voightlander
Zeiss
This one russian one I can never remember the name of, makes anamorphics
Mitakon Zyongyi
SLR Magic
Veydra
Bower
Cooke
Arri

I can't remember everything.

>>60601197

>videomaking

Arri, BlackMagic Design, RED, mostly Arri and the sound of money exploding for the lenses.

...broadcast lenses you see on news cameras *start* at like 40,000USD. Yeah.

>>60597449
>You stopped looking.
this


the only major shift was away from consumer goods because they can't compete with China in terms of mass manufacturing (not because they're bad at it but because they need to have human and environmental regulations standards of an industrialized nation)

>>60603022
same here with HDDs and motors.
The motor in the compressor is a particular miracle because it was [ab]used by someone that never bothered with proper use and maintenance.

I hope WD doesn't go backwards on quality after the acquisition of HGST

>>60603359
>implying japs invent
>implying japs innovate
>implying you know the correct definition of the word
please

>>60601413
there was a point in time where they dominated consumer electronics

>>60602769
Apple as the reputation of being "premium"

>>60597093
is no one really redpilled on this? lmao, you first need to understand why China is the leading manufacturer of electronics to understand how Japan is getting shafted and turning to cars and industrial shit

>>60600115
>>60597254

Can't we send this to Africa?

>>60603245
>Basic Income
They have a pretty robust social safety net does not?
>Universal Healthcare
They have this likely the only universal health care that is good
>'Gap' years to have kids
They may be accustomed to a borderline authoritarian society but that is likely too much
>Mandatory age 50 retirement
>Not that you're required to totally stop working, but you have to shift to do something else.Force out all the boomers who are making things stagnate and push them to try new things.
They have a extreme respect your elders mentality.

They poured their money into a new form of computing and failed.

>>60603516
They won't like it since they can't rape it.

>>60601032
Don't kid me

>>60597093
You can't. It all moved to China so companies could save pennies. Your only weapon is to not buy Chinese made goods. Be vocal about it, but not rude and hope enough companies take notice and change their ways.

China won with the rise of fucking Walmart.

>>60603359
He's right, retard

>>60603593
>nigger rape it
>got electrocuted and die
That's the idea.

>>60603696
chinese manufacturing is already on the way out.

start preparing yourself for made in turkey and indonesia

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>>60597093
Survival of the fittest.

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>>60603803
>send cute loli bots to Africa
>micro needles inside lolibot anus sterilize the negro

>>60598069
>>60598029
Anc really is just for airplane and when you for sure have too much bass type noise in your work environment for example

Otherwise just get in ear shit to block noise or open ear in quiet place

Go try in best buy though

>>60597093

Japanese tech is pretty much the best in the world.

What you're whining about is that it isn't sold in the U.S. at K-Mart blue light special prices. If (you) want the cutting edge tech of the world, stop being a poorfag and fucking buy it.

>>60603845
>Grave of the Fireflies.webm
lmao that's barefoot gen you retard

>>60603871
Send one to me too,worth it!

>>60601136
gopro

>>60597168
>Did you mean: chobits?
the robots in chobits were just called persocoms, which is boring, since persocom is what they actually call pc's in real life anyway

>>60604015
>Japanese tech is pretty much the best in the world.
That's not how you say America.

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>>60601032
2B isn't /for/ lewd
2B IS lewd, pure, unadulterated lewd.

>>60597150
>lax pollution laws
found the sjw

>>60604216
It's actually pasokon.

>>60604378
that's the the romanji spelling, it's the same word

>"The series tells the story of Hideki Motosuwa, who finds an abandoned persocom (パソコン PasoKon)"
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%91%E3%82%BD%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3

>>60604339
Fuck everything else, post moar of this

>>60603286
this display looks horrendous.

>>60597596
you are watching too much JAV

>>60603174
Still jap tho.

>>60597500
I can tell you're an underage because that's one of the worst fucking rally cars in existence. I drive a Mercedes and I always eat kids flexing in their subarus and lexus cars.

>>60597572
Fucking Christ enough with this trash.

>>60601625
Mark Zuckerberg is singlehandedly stopping US stagnation?

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>>60597093

you don't anon, its a slow decent into death.

These companies are fucked and so are we, the future holds an eternal duopoly

>>60604983
Merc owner here as well. I can tell you know Jack shit about cars as the original 22b is a fucking riot to drive.

>>60597093
>WTF happened?

The same thing Japan did to America's electronic sector. Karma is a bitch, ain't it?

>>60597429
>Sony told them to stop using them wrong and go fuck themselves

Based japs telling stupid gaijins to stop misusing superior nippon technology, they are not worth.

>>60597093
Japan is a on a league of their own, Nikon, Toshiba, Hitachi, and big etc.

>>60600115
>japan birthrate killer

You can't kill that which has no life.

>>60603919
I work around machinery that can get around 130 dbs. What I do is use in ear shit with ear mufflers placed over, works great and is cheap as well.

>>60599578
>retarded society

If it works then it isn't retarded. Who would be better to emulate? Certainly not the fucking west.

>>60604015
>Japanese tech is pretty much the best in the world.
Give one example

>>60603245
OP said to make Japan great again not send it down the shitter even faster.

>>60597114

Source.

>>60605842
The k computer.

>>60605776
>Slave worker mentality is okay

Sounds like you enjoy sucking your boss's cock.

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japs let it get to their head that their products were super greato and didn't need to sell to international markets. they stopped looking outwards.

they stopped caring. the only remaining successful jap companies are ones that still try to market internationally. their culture is insulated beyond any other asian country. but it doesn't look like they give a fuck so content to just die a collective death.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/05/19-1/one-in-four-anime-studios-reportedly-losing-money?utm_source=community_cr&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=news&referrer=community_cr_twitter_news

>>60597500
>>60605402
I was in one the other day going over 100MPH down a country lane. Holy fuck it felt so fun!

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http://neojaponisme.com/2011/11/28/the-great-shift-in-japanese-pop-culture-part-one/

japanese expert.

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I can't speak as to the quality and innovation of Japanese technology, for all I know it's probably still up there.
What I do know is their design took a massive nose dive, ditching aesthetics in favor of cheap looking components.
Look at the Japanese audio components from the 70s, 80s, hell even into the 90s. Look at anything after that period, it's indistinguishable from cheap Chinese crap.Back then it was about competition, trying to outdo your competition both in terms of performance, new features and yes, killer looks.
Look at the brands that were competing
Marantz
Onkyo
Sony
Technics
JVC
Fisher
Yamaha
Nakamichi
Sharp
Kenwood

It brings a tear to my eye but instead of crying about it I'm quietly collecting what I can afford.
tldr you can't make it great again, you can only collect what made it great before these items disappear forever
pic related: 1 receiver and 2 laptops in my personal collection that illustrate the very best of Japanese engineering.

>>60605973
The TaihuLight is much faster.
By that logic Chinese tech is the best.

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>>60606076
>The otaku spend their time as avaricious collectors of goods and trading information with other otaku. In shunning away from mainstream standards of sociability, sexuality, and career success, the act of maniacal consumption becomes their raison d’être. They cannot relate with other people if not commenting upon these cultural goods. Culture — most of which must be purchased and enjoyed as object (even when it is just physical media holding content) — is the great satisfier of their deepest desires.

>The end result is that the otaku and yankii have an almost inelastic demand for their favorite goods. They must consume, no matter the economic or personal financial situation. They may move to cheaper goods, but they will always be buying something. Otherwise they lose their identity. While normal consumers curb consumption in the light of falling wages, the marginal otaku and yankii keep buying. And that means the markets built around these subcultures are relatively stable in size.

weebs ruined everything. can't make money selling to normies so they shifted to catering weirdos and ignored foreign markets completely.

>>60606082
dunno if you're still here, but i'm intrigued by your books, what do you do for a living?

>>60606146
code monkey

>>60605842

Canon, Nikon, Nintendo Switch, Playstation 4, Seiko, Casio, Sharp, Panasonic, etc.

>>60606129
Korea caters to the normies craving Asian entertainment now.
That leaves Japan to cater to the weirdos and deviants.

>>60600945
But Makita makes quite shitty tools. Sadly.

>>60601738
Dunno in EU they fixed my Z3C, then gave me a new one when it broke again. Now I have like 1.5 year warranty on it again.

Samsung and other SK companies have been on a specific "fuck japan" mission for years. Literally it's their MO, undercut all their japanese rivals and drive them out of business.

There are a lot of companies doing interesting things in japan, but they seem to have trouble breaking out of local markets - though, anyone who isn't a big company has similar trouble here.

So it's not just japan's problem.

>>60600880
In a better world than this Anon.

>>60602615
Zeiss is an optics company.

>>60603174
Yamaha and Fuji Heavy are diversified firms though. they make nowhere as many internal combustion engines as honda. honda makes jet engines to weedeaters and everything inbetween.

>>60603593
there is nothing an African cannot rape.

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>>60600812
>>60601009

"The Japanese established an Institute of Population Problems as early as 1939. Back then the worry was over-population, and that continued to be the case through a postwar baby boom and into the 1950s. There were policies to discourage population growth.
In the 1960s thinking turned to the problems that might arise from a declining population, beginning it was calculated in the 1990s. In fact Japan’s population peaked in 2008 and is now falling by about a quarter million a year. Fertility rate is low, ranked 211 out of 224 nations. Median age is high at 46.1, tied with Germany for second place in the world, behind Monaco.

Main point here: The Japanese have been doing the long-term thinking about demographics that we haven’t been doing; and they’ve been doing it for 76 years. What have they concluded from all that thinking? Well, here’s a thing they have not concluded: They have not concluded that mass immigration is the solution to their demographic problems. They believe they can keep their standard of living — one of the world’s highest — maintain their technological advantages, and manage their national debt, without importing millions of foreign workers. There is no constituency in Japan favouring mass immigration. In Japan, even business moguls are patriotic."

>>60606988
> their standard of living — one of the world’s highest
Usually ranked somewhere between 20-30 on GDP per capita (nominal / PPP) metrics, and lower on income per hour worked metrics.

Seems like they are below most of the first world "mass immigration" countries - maybe they are not doing the optimal thing.

>>60607109
>GDP per capita
Literally meaningless to the common man. GDP is good for knowing how strong country's economy is. GDP per capita and average wages are just for bragging rights.
Apart from full graph next best thing is median wage. Still I don't doubt some Scandinavian countries are ahead of them on this.

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>>60607109
>GDP per capita
Even if GDP measured standard of living, which it doesn't, that would still be pretty good.

They're basically a top 20 country. And all without committing national suicide via ethnic replacement.

Japan with 40 million less Japanese people will still be Japan. The same cannot be said for countries that voluntarily surrender their nation and their institutions and let masses of foreigners supplant them to where their country is no longer their country.

>>60607215
>Still I don't doubt some Scandinavian countries are ahead of them on this.
Moves them up to rank 15/18 or so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage

Behind many of the first world "mass immigration" countries.

>>60607284
Well, people also made quality of life indices and so on on. Rank 30 there:
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp

And actually GDP and GDP (PPP) per capita are indicators anyhow, even if you can't use them alone.

The idea that there is something good about some stop on immigration because the overall ~20th ranked country does it is kinda weak when the 1-20 ranked countries mostly do have significant immigration.

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>>60607109
>Seems like they are below most of the first world "mass immigration" countries
Just wait a little, all those will turn into Sweden sooner or later and then the GDP will drop like a rock

>>60607410
Nah, few mass immigration countries above them, a lot below; few countries without mass immigration above them, a lot below them.
This data doesn't support the claim that it's statistically beneficial to have mass immigration.
But you're right it doesn't support the claim that it's better not to have it either.

On a different note, I knew South Korea was pretty advanced now, but I wasn't aware they have passed most European countries. Pretty crazy.

>>60607476
> turn into Sweden
Not that Sweden isn't kinda nicer than Japan - but you might prefer to say "turn into Luxemburg or Switzerland"?

They probably still have twice as many foreign-born people by fraction of population than Sweden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_foreign-born_population

>>60606376

Yep, Sony has decent marketshare in the EU and actually repair shit there.

Pretty nice here in Japan too, they fixed my phone within a week when the waterproofing seals failed.

>>60607604

SK is gonna have a bubble just as bad as Japan if not worse.

Their companies are entirely dependent upon government support.

Actual answer here. Lived in Japan for 15 years; moved back to the States six months ago.

>Japanese people view computers and consumer electronics on the same level as large appliances - have a huge "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality and discourage tinkering around/modifying things.
>Japanese people are overworked to the point of literal exhaustion and death. When they come home, they don't want to be reminded of technology, so their leisure time is spent either drinking, sleeping, or consuming media
>Japan took a very long time to adapt to the internet and cloud-based services, so many businesses are still paper-based and view Email has a gimmick.
>The Japanese population is aging and not reproducing. Bosses/authority figures are becoming older and more out-of-touch by the year, and simply don't understand certain modern concepts or innovations, resulting in a lot of pitches and prototypes being rejected and dismissed.

>>60600206
Which was clearly sponsoring some unknown nippon brand.

>>60600848
this.
They perfected toilets.

>>60606273
Why did you not include Sony and Panasonic's god-tier televisions?

>>60605004
He fucked it up even worse and to add insult to injury, he wants to make sure none of us ever get jobs in technology by importing unlimited retarded Pajeets.

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>>60607611
>implying the foreign immigrants in Luxemburg and Switzerland aren't rich white

>>60600880
It's a shame, the current Xperias are pretty fucking nice. I love my Z5.

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>>60604983
Protip: That's not a WRX.

>>60604363

Nothing SJW about that comment. A lot of firms build shit in China because of the lax pollution requirements. They don't have to spend money on expensive pollution reduction systems so they make more in pure profit. No one who lives in the first world cares where their stuff comes from, they want it cheap and they want it now.

They're stuck in the 90s tbqh.

>>60608241
lel

>>60601179
People.

>>60601179
smartphones are a good enough replacement for low end compact cameras most people are fine with
but nothing more

>>60597299
>The only decent thing Japan has made recently are ANC headphones (pic related), automobiles to a certain extent, and arguably PS4

Sony is a joke of a company nowadays.

>>60601179
I just bought a Sony Powershot.
Even very cheap cameras have battery, zoom and resolution far beyond what even the most expensive phone have. Only retards would use a phone instead of a camera when traveling.

>>60609050
phones have the convinience of being something you're going to have on your person anyway, for other reasons
i can understand the appeal of having to carry only your phone and not a phone + a camera

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>>60606082
aren't those Chinese laptops?
although the design is based on bento

>>60597093
Japan is focusing on robotics and sustainable farming.

While everyone else is focusing on making the best laptop, Japan is preparing for the apocalypse.

>>60603371
leyca

>>60604363

Have you even been to China? The pollution literally blocks out the sun.

Do you people not know your history?

There's a reason Western culture was taken over by Japanese some decades ago. People literally used to believe Japan was going to take over the world with its business. They were so rich they started buying up American companies all over the place.

Then the Japanese bubble economy literally crashed and they haven't fully recovered to this day.

That's all there is to it.

>>60607775
F

>>60597093
Their fucked up culture is turning their teens into NEETs

>>60597254
that thing is DOA and you know it.

>>60607611
>twice as many foreign-born people
Other Europeans and Westerns

>>60608155
>The cuckold face
>The way that the dog looks to the cuckold

>>60601625
Nah, the west isn't anywhere near as rigid, conservative and hierarchical

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>>60608890
RIDERS ON THE STORM

>>60606129
Miyazaki is the best flavor of bitter

>>60606374
indeed, I haven't had any outstanding experiences with the brand. On par if not worse than American variants depending on the tool

>>60609331
basically this- they were the China of their day by reverse-engineering everything and raising their standard of living right out of the manufacturing economy. The same thing is happening in China, but Chinese """"culture"""" is trash. They pollute, keep their currency artificially low, and will soon be dealing with massive employment issues once automation takes off.

You can expect to see a lot of wealth leave China once their "bubble" bursts. Look no further than Australia and Hongcouver.

>>60597093
overworking and oppressive school systems stifle creativity

>>60610356
kek

>>60597516
great box if you dont mind a tiny fuck all touchpad

>>60604363
>found the sjw
>social justice warrior
>pollution
>social
Can we have an iq test that makes sure the posters arent fucking retarded before posting?
China is literally bladerunner final cut rn

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>>60607775

>>60607775
Japs always had this adamant close minded attitude towards business and acception of foreign concepts. It's just that the bubble fooled them into thinking they were doing things right.

While I have respect for their island mentality I can't say that I see it leading to success with the globalization trend

>>60603670
What ze fuck

>>60606394
Funny to think that once the west conquered the major East Asian countries we've started waging vertical wars against each other kek

>>60619540
SK companies want to fuck with Japanese ones because the colonization

>>60619708
Yea I know, I'm Korean. It's just funny to think how we got ahead with it once the mid 2000's started to hit.

>>60597093
Japanese writing instruments/stationery is still the best though.

>Pilot
>Uni-Ball/Mitsubishi Pencil
>Pentel
>Sakura
>Zebra
>Tombow
>Shachihata Artline
>Kuretake
etc.

>>60607775
is that why there's no good programmers there?

japan can only do HW. SW was always hard for them.

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>>60620195
>Japanese writing instruments/stationery is still the best though.
keyboards too. topre switch > *.

HHKB and Realforce are the best KBs.

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Am I still kawaii?

>>60619816
>It's just funny to think how we got ahead with it once the mid 2000's started to hit.

Having the support of a corrupt national government is really a big help.

>>60620300
>Japanese keyboards are the best
Maybe, but compared to their writing instruments the Japanese superiority in keyboards is marginal.

>>60620511
>marginal
Nope. Other switches are shit. typing on topre is like playing on a finely tuned piano.

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>>60603079
>financial arm? what do they do with finances?
The Zaibatsu is a structured business relation popular with Japanese companies.

They create a group of companies that deal with each other first by choice. The build around a central banking institution that all financial actions go through. With a hugely diverse horizontal and vertical integration the build a group that's able to weather most market changes.

They also engage in cross ownership with different companies owning parts of other companies that own parts of other companies that might own parts of the first company. This creates a tight integration of ownership and profit sharing.

Sony makes most of it's money with it's banking arm that deals with the group of companies built around it.

>>60620456
It's part of the reason that we have so much government corporate ties :p

>>60613374
How come Taiwan doesn't have this problem?

>>60597114
Won't happen unless already fully developed for other applications. Better adjusted people don't want something so embarrassing and bulky. Losers will forever continue to move the goalposts and won't early adopt something expensive that isn't quite there. They don't want sex. They want the validation of a real human wanting to have sex with them. If you're not already using a Hitachi or other tool on your boyclit, you're not going to buy a sexbot.

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>>60597449
Makita is destroying their brand by removing their trademark best-starcraft-player teal from their drills so they'll be too dangerous to use in the U.S.

>>60620805
Sexbots are already a thing

Remember when only good anime with mass appeal made it to the states instead of wish fulfillment moeshit?

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>>60620847
I've never owned a Makita tool, but the color alone would make me choose it over others, everything else equal.

>>60620636
>Sony

Last I heard it was actually their insurance making them the most profit.

But yea, everything is supported by the zaibatsu's central bank and they will bail out arms that get in trouble.

>>60609331
How has nobody posted this yet? Princes of the Yen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

The Japanese economy was hobbled deliberately when it was looking like they would overtake the West. It's is beyond unreasonable to believe that a people as conservative as the Japanese would voluntarily shake up their fiscal policies as radically as they did even though their current path was rocketing them to the top.

>>60597093
>10 years ago

More like 30 years ago, the cheap but high quality Japanese electronics meme died with the 1980s. Now they sell overpriced garbage that isn't even made in Japan anymore.

>>60597093
>Anime
Go to hell.

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>>60600880
>GOAT DAC, dual front facing stereo speakers
>clean brick design
>sturdy, waterproof
>THE best camera, hands down
>5.2", no phablet meme because japs have little girl hands
>triluminos display, none of that overly saturated amoled shit
>fingerprint scanner on power button, so no hideous tumors on front screen or near the fucking camera like samcuck phones
>probably some gimmicks related to playstation
>only downsides are no SD slot like every other nexus/pixel phone and the trademark sony huge bezels
>this will never happen because (((google))) fears the samurai

My fucking dick, shame that HTC did the Pixel XL and it turned out to be such an overpriced disappointment, i expected their famous DAC, boomsound and stereo speakers somehow worked in and i got jackshit.

>>60600880
For many years Xperia smartphones have been water resistant already but only recently when chumchung and aplel introduced water resistance on their units did they start kinda marketing xperias as water resistant.

>>60621512

Wait they removed SD card in latest Xperia?

For the longest it was just part of SIM tray.

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>>60597093
>WTF happened to Japanese technology?

Guess.

the west has been better at tech since '95 or so

>>60621512
Don't forget TRRRS input / stereo audio in. AFAIK Nokia / HMD Global is the only other company releasing phones with stereo audio in. I think it's absurd that it's not a standard feature of smartphones especially considering the MSRPs of the flagships, but that's normies for you.

>>60621630
I was talking about the hypothetical nexus/pixel by sony, anon, those phones have never featured an SD slot, of course sony will never remove the SD slot nor the 3.5mm jack on their xperia phones because 1) they also sell headphones and sd cards and 2) everyone and their grandma listens to their asmr loli armpit pussy recordings on the subway on their way to school/job and they gotta store that shit on a external device in case the police comes around.

>>60621663
I also mean internal mics, or any other means of recording in stereo without USB mics which probably won't work with nearly every shitty Play Store Android app anyway. I'm just flustered that people are doling triple-digit $ for AV recorders that are incapable of recording audio in stereo.

>>60597299
Wearing these rn. Love them

>>60597429
Lol i hadnt heard of this, i have best buy protection tho so who cares.

>>60597759
I preordered these and have used them nearly every day with no problem, dont let a vocal minority shill you to the bose side.

>>60601179
mirrorless cameras have been making waves in terms of new ownership, especially since costs are down these days.

sony is leading mirrorless right now with high-quality feature packed cameras ranging from consumer to professional.

>>60606394
They're not innovating, though, so they have the same problem as the Japanese.

>>60600014
What is with Japan's obsession with large numbers?

They always add at least an extra zero or two to numbers compared to westerners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y24BOzPF_98

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>>60621838
>>60621862
Thanks, I guess I'll keep them for now

>>60597291
Nigga if only you knew the jap power in optoelectronics.
>sigma with Foveon sensors
>sony with their INSANE specs

>>60597093
There must be some bank employed real estate tycoon that could be voted in by their rural areas that could save them from the backwardness of their urban areas.

>>60606082
Distro?

>>60606038
japan never looked outwards to begin with, they were fine on their own. If they close now the open borders period will only have been ~100 years of their history, an insignificant percentage.

lrn2weeb mate

>>60622562
the 68000 name comes from the motorola 68000 CPU, dumbass

>>60603797
>>60603422
Innovating means taking something that exists and improving on it, retards.

aren't eizo monitors from Japan too?