/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

#1 for Gentoo.

>>60595513
Also, because the field was too long, devuan has finally gotten its official release.
https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/stable-jessie-announce-052517
https://devuan.org
Keep this in the news for next /fglt/

>>60595478
help
my eyes are hurting from all this choppyness

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try SourceMage

I have two entries of 'Gnome' in my login screen
why?

>>60595562
are you complaining about de or gnu/linux?

>>60595562
dmesg|grep -i firmware

post results (you might have to run dmesg as root/with sudo I heard)

>>60595539
>there are people who fell so hard for the systemd is a botnet meme that they actually made a distro
wew lad

>>60595539
at this pace they will be ahead of Debian development in a year

>>60595604
actually read what this is about then make an educated comment

>>60595588
nah, still can't figure out how to write a package on it
SlackBuild masterrace

>>60595629
>t. systemd is a botnet memer

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>>60595603
running it with sudo gave the same output

>>60595638
>I have no argument so I'll just call you a memer.

>>60595635
give me an example off an slackbuild you made and which steps you did

>>60595539
retrograde

>>60595651
systemd is free software and this whole "init freedom" bullshit complete cancer

>>60595638
>>60595660
still not an educated comment, still an uniformed comment

>>60595645
wait, that name. could it be?

>>60595662
Free software doesn't automatically make it good software.

>>60595662
fuck off authoritarian

>>60595539
Oh neat. I will keep Debian tho. SJWs be dammed, I don't give a shit unless they start popping out on my machine.

>arguments against systemd
>first result is muh UNIX philosophy

>>60595705
UNIX is a trademark, if people want UNIX they should get a mac

SystemD: it works and its open source, but it doesnt follow the way of the god-emperor. Some may purge it completely, but why? It does its job well and after all, G.N.U

>>60595715
>open source
but does it respect my freedoms?

my pacman database is always locked when i boot qnd i have to delete db.lock. what should i do?

>>60595691
Cool, just remember that if you ever want to switch from your existing jessie install all you need to do is replace the package sources in sources.list with the devuan ones, run

apt-get update
apt-get install devuan-keyring
apt-get dist-upgrade

and then reboot.

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Reposting:

I'm using Linux Mate 17.1 Sarah, built on Ubuntu Xenial. I need to update a program called unar, but the dev only made it available for Yakkety and above. See here: https://pkgs.org/download/unar
Notice how there's no 1.10 for Xenial? Yeah.

So in my infinite wisdom I decided to download the version for Yakkety and see if I could install it, and it calls for a package "libicu57" (see pic), but checking the package manager only shows up to "libicu55" and their site http://site.icu-project.org/download is too full of technical stuff for me to make sense of. Hoping someone can tell me if it's actually possible to get libicu updated to 57 or above and thus get unar 1.10 working on Xenial.

Also, as a last note, here's unar's site https://unarchiver.c3.cx/commandline notice the section that says how to compile manually, I'm thinking should I just try doing that from the start? Never compiled anything before.

tl;dr how to update unar to 1.10.1 on Linux Mate (Xenial)?

>>60595652
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/desktop/2bwm/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/desktop/light/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/desktop/polybar/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/haskell/haskell-clock/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/haskell/haskell-composition/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/haskell/haskell-env-locale/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/libraries/vte3-ng/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/network/telegram-cli/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/perl/perl-rename/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/system/termite/

I just modified the template, modify some ./configure flag and make and make install.

>>60595723
indeed it does. On an related note, dont fall for the "if it openly admits to spying and is open source its alright to opt in" thats the same mentality as "its MY choice to wear the burka"

>>60595729
Linux Mate is the best Linux.

>>60595729
cant you just compile it yourself?

>>60595715
>but it doesnt follow the way of the god-emperor.

on the contrary, the systemd way is the way of lennart poettering, god-emperor of freedesktop

>>60595748
you follow a false prophet then, for the word of Stallman is the word of GNU, son of UNIX

>>60595768
UNIX is a trademark, if you want UNIX, buy a Mac.

Both gnome music and lollypop are pretty shit, lollypop more so. What are cli music players like? Ive always been a visuals person myself prefering players with a nice organised library.

I'm having a deja-gnu.

>>60595735
Chromium? Can't think of any other software that does it.

>>60595787
the term unix refers to a type of os though, gnu/ linux is a unix style os.

>>60595799
old ubuntu software too. Id argue a lot of "anonymous" shared data could easily be backtracked because of how vague and unprotected the term is

>>60595796
you have been to this place before.

>>60595823
Unix was a operating system in the 70s. It doesn't exist anymore (good thing since it was proprietary anyway). Systems like GNU or BSD are like Unix, or "unix-like".

I want to make a burner account for the wiki to edit the babbies first linux because devuan is ready for production use and needs to be updated. Is account creation still disabled because it's giving me problems.

>>60595735
Not to defend Muslims but in the west, it really is their choice to wear burkhas. The European caliphate hasn't been established quite yet so they don't get stoned if they go out uncovered in public. They choose to wear it because they were taught that women who don't are sluts and whores and they don't place high value on being sluts like western women do.

>>60595857
stop shilling the systemd is bad meme, retard

>>60595873
Devuan has been mentioned under the debian section for a long time, but it no longer needs to say it's not ready for production use.

What are the benefits of SystemD?

>>60595889
It shaves off 0.05 seconds from your boot time

can someone explain the systemd meme?
is it a botnet? don't know who to believe

>>60595866
>not to defend muslims but ill proceed to defend muslims
The amount of pressure from the islamic "communities" on them to wear them makes it a weighted choice. Furthermore i wasnt actually refering to muslims exclusively but rather to those who view as a liberating choice. You say yourself the biased view that is implanted into them.

>>60595902
Systemd is the kernel of Linux, it comes with binary blobs which could be backdoored, so it's better not to use it.

>>60595938
Apple is Linux.

So when is the next version of Devuan is coming?
I have no interest in running 2014 packages when debian stretch is coming soon

>>60595938
it seems you got something wrong here
systemd is an init system, the kernel of the Linux desktop is called "GNU"

>>60595938
more than just binary blobs. The amount of hex droplets within the blobs make encryption a joke on systemd

>>60595902
Systemd is a new init system for Linux, and it works pretty well, most major distros use it now, but it does a lot of different things and it's tightly coupled so you can't really use part of it. Also makes it hard to replace.

>this whole thread again
oh dear holy jesus christ on the cross

>>60595973
They're already working on testing to be ready for the next release, it'll get released after stretch gets released which will come out who knows when.

>>60595982
The kernel of the GNU/Linux desktop is called the Linux kernel.

>>60596029
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>60595902
The problems people have with systemd are mainly ideological (doesn't follow the unix philosophy of "do one thing and do it well") but also based out of security concerns (one program doing so many things is a significant attack vector) as well as other things such as its use of binary log files and weird Windows-style error messages. Also Poettering is an asshole who once had to be taught how the rm command works.

I currently have Arch on my laptop. What distro should I change to?

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>>60596038
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

>>60596005
Can i upgrade to devuan testing by changing the repos like debian?

>>60596062
saved

>>60595731
thanks, don't hate on sourcemage thou, the thing has its charms, pun intended

>>60596067
Absolutely. Read https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/stable-jessie-announce-052517 for what to do.

is devuan the new meme distro

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>>60596085
Someone make a dev1 version of this so it can be.

Hi /g/oods new to gnu/ linux and wondering if i can get sone software recommendations

movie player
music player
illustrator (for tablet drawing)
DAW (if not vst support then at least programmable synths)
screen recorder (p sure osb right?)

and any other useful stuff

Cheers

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Should I move from Centos to devuan?

>>60596067
>>60596080
Also, if you don't want jessie just replace jessie with testing in the sources.list, all the repos are on the same server.

>>60596122
>movie player
smplayer+mpv with smtube+youtube-dl for watching yt from it
>music player
terminal: mpd server + ncmpcpp controller
gui: audacious
>illustrator
inkscape, gimp, pinta

other:
partitions: gparted
torrent: qbittorrent, transmission
chat: hexchat
office: libreoffice
audio file tag editing: puddletag

>>60595792
Start with MOC, you browser the filesystem by pressing enter over folders, press "?" to see more keys. Is the easiest and prettiest imho.

>>60596174
this, been using moc before I switched to mpd

>>60596122
>movie player
mpv with baka-mplayer as frontend
>music player
deadbeef
>illustrator
not sure, maybe inkscape?
>DAW
lmms (not sure about how or if vst works on linux)

>>60595902
don't be fooled, there are legitimate technical reasons for not using systemd, the developer is known to leave bugs unfixed and bully anybody who won't use its abomination

is also another great tragedy into coming, as it is hard to fork and leaves too many ways to create vulnerabilities open is suspected to be intentionally tied to its developers, the RedHat corporation employees

>>60596080
>>60596144
Thanks!

>>60596217
Then why did so many major distros adopt systemd if it's so bad?

>>60596122
Don't download multiple programs for media.

>movie player
>music player
VLC. It plays basically anything, even streams from the internet.
>screen recorder (p sure osb right?)
Yes OBS is the best.

>>60596217
>don't be fooled, there are legitimate technical reasons for not using systemd, the developer is known to leave bugs unfixed and bully anybody who won't use its abomination
You're the one who's fooled.
>>60596232
>Then why did so many major distros adopt systemd if it's so bad?
'cause it's actually good. All the people here who shit on it just heard that it's shit from other people here who shit on it.

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a quick look into systemd development
thoughts?

>>60596286
>UNIX
triggered

>>60596286
Oh look, he made a mistake. And it's a reasonable mistake too, normally * matches everything which includes . and .. but rm skips those and reports it for safety. Fuck him! He's a complete idiot and the entire thing he wrote is complete garbage! EVERYONE GET HIM!!!

>>60596391
>systemctl start damagecontrold

>>60596391
why did he lock the conversation?

Oh my god this is so hard to choose distro.

>>60596420
Debian

>>60596404
>>60596408
>Posts a reasonable argument in Poettering's favour
>DAMAGECONTROL LOL

He locked the convo because the guy saw his mistake and is now moving on to the 100 other issues he has to work on. Are you even a fucking dev, guy? Why keep issues open longer than necessary?

>>60596391
this, people make mistakes, thats why issues exist

>>60595513
Devuan sounds like a black name for some kid.

>>60596391
Thoughts? https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402

>>60596427
or devuan?

>>60596443
Who cares about the name. They could call it hitlerian for all I care as long as it works and isn't shoving politics into the distro.

>>60596452
depends on your stance on systemd

>>60596420

https://elementary.io/en/

>>60596232
>>60596267
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=570371
There you have, it was a shady move to hijack the decision.

Don't be fooled, these apologist are everywhere.

The decision to adopt systemd is so shady they even erased all traces https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/threads.html#00192

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>>60596450
>peanut gallery site
4chan?

How would dm-crypt encrypted SSD work under Linux compared to encrypted HDD? Doesn't it wear off too fast? I heard overwriting it with random data before encryption slows it down a lot.
I wonder if it is worth upgrading.

>>60596505
install gentoo

>>60596450
>>60596286
I don't see anything wrong here.

>>60596391
https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet
and
http://cve.circl.lu/cve/CVE-2016-10156
and
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394
and
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/ZNQW72UP36UAFMX53HPFFQTWTQDZVJ3M/

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-230-FBDEV-Woe
>"I don't see anything wrong here."
typical apologist here

KILL SYSTEMD

The problem is not systemd, potttering or whatever, it's people/distros who jump on the bandwagon for no reason. systemd isn't "going to get you". It's a program like every other program and its free software.
>>60596546
Made by human being who make mistakes like every other developers.

The systemd/pottering hate needs to stop right now.

can someone explain the systemd meme? what's all the fuzz about it?!

>>60596577
No, but the systemd/pottering hater hate needs to stop right now.

It seems almost no one around here code. Systemd is a big project, bugs always happens, that's why there's a section called "issues" on github.

>>60596597
tl;dr
systemd is bad

>>60596597
It's a power grab by Red Hat.

Poettering did nothing wrong!
Stop the bully!
This guy makes free software!

>>60596597
computer illiterates try to look illiterate

There is literally no reason to use systemd.

Is a buggy pile of crap.

with people are mad at systemd? i am using a linux with systemd for a couple of years now and i never had to deal with it.

>>60596707
proofs or it didnt happen

Is like this bastard is marketing systemd. FUCK OFF POETTERING

>>60596717
see >>60596546 >>60596567


GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE

Lol Devuan is my wife's son's name

>>60596713
Are you using a GNU/Linux distro with systemd or are you running the bare kernel with systemd?

>>60596747
he is using poetterinux

>>60596140
ye

>>60596740
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6bf78x/i_named_my_daughter_devuan/

>>60596747
bare kernel

>>60596758
Haha i remember tht.

>>60596747
i am using https://github.com/uutils/coreutils

>>60596802
GNU isn't some utils, pleb.

>>60596819
i don't use the other stuff

>>60596826
Yes you do.

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Now that I have your attention, what are some cool terminal commands?

>>60596835
man touch

>>60596835
touch wiener

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>>60596855
>>>/f/unnyjunk

>>60596874
dog touch

>>60596874
tail dog

>>60596835

x=echo;e=d1s3d1;f=s2d1s2;g=d1s4;h=s4d1;i="1 d5";s=0;$x -e "\n\n\n\n\n\n\n";set $i 7 $e $i 9 $f $i 3 $h $i 3 $g $i $i 3 $h $i 3 $h $i 4 $e $i 4 $h $i 3 $g $i 3 $h $i 4 $g $i 3 $e 2 d5 8 $h $i 3 $e $i 3 $e 2 d5 3 $e $i 4 $h 3 s1 1 d1 1 s1 1 d1 3 s1;y="     ";z="\e[";for l in {0..9} a;do for m in {0..8};do if [ $s = 0 ]; then s=$1;t=$2;shift 2;fi;s=$((s-1));p=$t;a="";while [ $p ]; do c=${p:0:1};n=${p:1:1};p=${p:2:9};[ $c = d ] && a="$a${z}7m";a="$a${y:0:$n}${y:0:$n}";[ $c = d ] && a="$a${z}m";done;d[0x$l$m]="$a";done;done;while :; do set `date "+%Ha%Ma%S %N"`;t=$1;s=$2;$x -ne "\r${z}8A";for l in {0..8};do for ((i=0; i<${#t}; i++))do $x -ne "${d[0x${t:$i:1}$l]}";[ $i != 7 ] && $x -n "  ";done;[ $l != 8 ] && $x;done;$x -n " ";s=$((3000-1${s:0:3}));sleep 0.${s:1:3};done

>>60596874
watch dog
kill -9 dog

>>60596835
modprobe man
dig man
fsck man
os-prober man
finger man

>>60596940

killall 60596940

>>60596940
LOL!

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>>60596940

>>60596459
You can care about a name when there are many other choices for operating systems. All operating systems provide a base for productivity. When you speak of politics, the subject is reserved exclusively for the Linux, GNU/Linux, and FSF communities. So I prefer not to use a nigger'd system, my friend!

>>60596835
You know just how to give a guy a hard boner while browsing the internet!

What you negros think about Arch Anywhere? I used it to install Arch Linux on my system.

>>60597060
>So I prefer not to use a nigger'd system, my friend!
Except it's not, if anything debian is because it has pro-SJW agendas.

Just installed Arch OpenRC, dubs decide which DE I install

>>60597267
Except it is. It's Linux.

>>60597295
Stop trolling and fuck off

what vim plugins are you using?

After analyzing Google's Fuchsia, it's much better than Linux. Goodbye, Thinkpad culture.

>>60597277
Razor-qt.

>>60597308
I use Emacs

>>60596391
>rm removes parent directory
cmon

>>60597303
God you're fucking cringe. Enjoy Reddit, sissy. Enjoy your "alternative culture". Do girls fuck guys like you? Put a bullet in your forehead. Do you also come from Brazil, Linux crusader?

What should I use for VM software on GNU/Linux? Any open source stuff? I used VMware workstation on Windows but I'm part of the GNU/Linux masterrace now.

>>60595513
any way to check asic quality on linux?

>>60597318
Wow, very interesting and unique person you are. Please tell us more.

>>60597277
Gunome Plus Three

>>60597347
Ask a stupid question...

>>60597361
Do you at least use evil mode? Or are you 100% faggot?

>>60597361
I can't think of anymore. The Linux users loved these type of question so much last thread, I believe they've exhausted them.

Who else here calls it GNU/Linux on /g/ and Linux in real life?

>>60595513
Should I install plan 9 or inferno.
Is there a science or math oriented distro?

>>60597426
Nobody respond to this question. It may seem rude but it helps it learn over time.

>>60597426
GNU slash Linux.

>>60597438
Deezer Dubstep 2.0 software suite with dwm window manager and inferbo.

>>60597438
Plan 9 (I think the site is 9front.org)
Inferno is just based on it.

>>60597426
I do it the other way around to piss off the autists.

>>60597448
What? I have several friends that use GNU/Linux and I have not once heard it called that offline.

>>60597426
Why would you call it Linux? I have a Debian installed, not Linux, so I call it Debian.

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>>60595513
Can you wise anons help me out? Trying to boot Linux from a USB but I can't get it to work.
>sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

>>60597558
>tips fedora
t. free thinker

>>60597558
Sometimes it's more general, like "any Linux distro is better than Windows". I use Debian also.

>>60597578
why is your image 4032x3024?

>>60597651
Because I'm posting from a ****tphone because my laptop is stuck at that screen.

>>60597599
Then you should interject.

>>60597578
Your problem happened before that, at "could not mount disk at /mnt-system. Starting debugging shell". Bad image? Have you verified the image's checksum? Try flashing it again, or some other distro/version.

>>60597733
This is the second distro I've tried, maybe the problem is hardware related?

>>60597748
Maybe. It's weird because a live system normally wouldn't even be trying to mount your hard drives at that point, or automatically at all, so that disk it's failing to mount should be its own filesystem. It's not unheard of for a filesystem to be corrupted and fail to mount, but a freshly-flashed live USB image? Weird.

Are you using the same USB drive in all your attempts? Maybe that's what's borked.

>>60597837
Yeah, same flash drive. I guess that might be the problem, or maybe I'm using Rufus wrong.

>>60597856
>or maybe I'm using Rufus wrong
Oh, I see, converting ISO images to USB images. That could be the problem indeed, I've created many an unbootable drive with unetbootin back in the day.

Try using native USB images to skip that step. At a glance I see no mention of USB or hybrid images in the knoppix downloads page. Debian live uses hybrid images - thanks to some clever trick, the same image is valid for burning to a CD or flashing to a USB drive. I'm quite sure Xubuntu does too as I've been flashing their .iso images with dd just fine. These are just the ones I know of and regularly use.

Once you manually configured the kernel on Gentoo, can you use genkernel to reconfigure it again?

Installing right now.

>>60598256
*Installing it

Bought a new laptop (XPS 15) and since I'm unwilling to put up with W10, I'm going to try my first Linux distro (chose Ubuntu Mate).
However, multiple installation attempts in booting from USB have resulted in "fatal error" as it's unable to install the bootloader. All I can do at this point is shut down as the error menu doesn't register click or keyboard selections.

Is this a known error with a fix?

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How to encrypt a single folder? Not interested in gui really just a simple command. I suck at googling.

>>60595768
Stallman is okay with systemD, in fact he has never been a fan of the Unix way

>>60597983
Thanks for the help.

>>60595598
I have had this forever also across several distros. Actually it's:

GNOME
GNOME 
GNOME Classic
GNOME on Xorg

Never looked into why there are 2 GNOME entries. Thought about it but I always forget.

>>60595539
Anyone tried to upgrade from debian jessie to devuan and had success with it?

>>60598445
You might need to fiddle with the UEFI a bit. Follow these instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_15_(9550)#Pre-Installation_System_Settings.

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Want to install ubuntu 16.04.2 on my new PC with gigabyte mobo and ryzen CPU, can't, because LTS is using old kernel...
So does 17.04...
/g/ wat do?

>>60598662
install gentoo

>>60598662
Manjaro or Antergos

>>60598668
>arch for babbies

>>60598662
just use a vm

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>>60598668
Manjaro it is then.
fucking canonical

>>60598683
No. I can install Arch in 2 minutes and I still choose to use Manjaro (unstable).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzshBaVtMtk

>>60598662
install Arch Linux you mong

>>60598742
GNU/Linux*

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>>60598712
What do you mean?
I can't even boot up live usb... it's a known issue for gigabyte am4 motherboards, but apparently this is happening only for ubuntu isos (has to do something with their kernel compilation flags)...

>>60598748
arch linux is the distros name retard

> installing Gentoo

any init system recommendations?

>>60598781
When they spread misinformation by changing “GNU” to “Linux”, and call their version of it “Arch Linux”, it's proper for you to correct the misinformation by calling it “Arch GNU/Linux”.

>>60598811
That would make YOU the one spreading misinformation, since that's not the proper name for Arch Linux.

>>60598829
Calling the system “Arch Linux” implies that it's a flavor of “Linux,” and people understand it that way: >>60598742

If they called a GNU/Linux distro “Arch BSD,” you would call that a mistake. “This system is not BSD,” you would tell them. Well, it's not Linux either.

>>60598848
And yet a)It's still the proper name and b)they have the right to call it whatever they wish, since GPL does not restrict you from naming the final product whatever you wish.

Therefore, not only are you a pedantic asshole, but you're also factually wrong.

Anyone here use Slackware or have any thoughts about it? It's one of the only major distributions I haven't tried, trying to figure out if it's worth giving a shot.

Its users seem to be pretty passionate, but I'm not sure what separates it from the crowd.

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>>60598742
hm... you might be right...
Had arch on my laptop for very long time, never had it on my desktop...
Some people here complains about arch being unstable on desktop, could prove them wrong.
Anyways... until fucking cuconical will fix this issue. Or might just stick with arch, will see...

Thanks for replying to me. Will come back post screenfetch what I've installed later today (maybe).

>>60598950
arch isn't unstable

>>60598606
Thanks friend

>>60596758
You have to go back.

>>60596758
Weird how that works
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6bf78x/i_named_my_daughter_nigger

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>mfw xorg.conf shit the bed
Bruh...

>>60597277
Openbox+tint2
DUBS GET

>>60599120
stop using arch

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>>60599121

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>>60599089
>nigger

>>60598792
keep using openRC. Every gentoo package has full support for it, no broken dependencies or dep. loops. Well, usually.

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>>60599255
d-do potential employers have access to my posting history on 4chan?

>>60599334
yes every captcha you do is linked to your google account if you're signed in

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i need an advice. help me.

what syntax for my cli program options/parameters should i use?

program --a --b
or
program -a -b
or
something else?

thank you guys

>>60599396
both

-v, --version

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>>60599358
Okay then, I guess I'm safe.

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>>60599408
and what about the ms dos style

program /a /b /c:argument

>>60599396
https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Argument-Syntax.html

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>>60599484
GNO

Imagine yousing linuxcks without being able to google all the commands.... just whoaw

>>60599521
using the manual would be so hard!!!!

>>60599521
imagine it without manuals. fucking crazy my dude

>>60599521
>to google
generation botnet

I'm yousing Arch btw.

>>60595513
I switched to ubuntu but now my cursor is gone. Anyone help?

>>60599620
install gentoo

>>60599620
don't use ubuntu it sucks dicks. Get Manjaro. Like honestly anon apt sucks ass

>>60599620
>>60599628
/fglt/ in a nutshell

>>60599408
>>60599498
>>60599508

thanks. i found this http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap12.html

>>60599620
Can you actually click on anything, even without the cursor being displayed? If you're using an external mouse, does it show up in lsusb? What about sudo libinput-list-devices?

>>60599484
Is this an edit?
kikes get off my full pol

>>60599796
it's not an edit. Herschel is a legend at fighting antisemitism.

http://www.rabbimindset.com/

about to install newbuntu on a computer

should i get the LTS, or the regular Zesty release? with the regular release, once the next release comes, i can still just upgrade it as per usual, correct? i don't necessarily need stability.

>>60600016
lmao

>>60600039
>ubuntu
why ubuntu and not elementary? https://elementary.io/

>>60600069
i'm already familiar with elementary and tried it before. it's not to my taste.

>>60599620
Back in the olden days I had a similar problem with ubuntu too. As >>60599775 suggests, I could still click and everything and things reacted when I hovered over them as normal, the cursor was simply invisible.

I fixed it by adding

Option "HWCursor" "off"

to /etc/X11/xorg.conf under Section "Device". 'Course kids these days don't even have xorg.confs and expect their X server to work automagically. Ha! Back in my days, if you wanted magic you put on your wizard hat and you god damned typed it yourself!

>tried ubuntu
>tried manjaro
>tried solus
>tried fedora

I have to say, of all of them, Ubuntu is the worst, Fedora is the best, Manjaro and Solus are tied in the "it just werks" category. Fedora requires some initial setup work unlike Manjaro and Solus, but it does work well.

I don't want to insult anyone who swears by Ubuntu, but any time over the years I have tried to use it, it has always required the most work from me.

What filesystem should I use for my new 2TB SSD which I bought to use a backup for all my vidya and Annie maes?
I would probably be using encryption on it as long as it doesn't hugely add to the wear (which I have heard is a possibility)

>>60600155
Fedora is aids. Manjaro has pacman so it is better

>>60600039
I'd probably prefer the LTS version by default(that is, unless you need new versions of some of the software or the kernel), but if you don't mind being basically forced to upgrade to the newest version when it comes out(only 9-months of support for regular versions) and don't need the extra stability, there's no real reason not to pick the newest version.

Is there any command for comparing files? E.g. I'd feed the command two or more files it should compare and then it would either highlight or print the differences to a file.

>>60600191

diff - compare files line by line

. Be sure to check the man page.

>>60600172
Homo File System Plus

How do I open a root version of Nautilus on Fedora? I try "Sudo Nautilus" but it won't work.

Do I have to turn off SeLinux?

I just want to install some themes and fonts.

>>60600342
>Sudo Nautilus
Take a look at this again and see why

>>60600189
thx m8, Zesty it is

>>60600155
What went wrong on Ubuntu?

>>60600416
normies

>>60600416
gnome/unity/amazon

>>60600371
I dunno I probably should have posted in the stupid questions thread.

>>60600456
Take a look again.
Its glaringly obvious

>>60600456
i think nautilus has to be lowercase

Is there any point in learning iptables when you can just install ufw and gufw?

>>60600172
ext4 just like normal?

>>60600684
Yes

>>60600684
If you're not running a server, probably not. Just setting the defaults to deny or whatever and explicitly allowing applications through ufw seems best.

>>60600684
ufw and gufw are both basic frontends to iptables so don't treat both tools equally.

If all you need is basic firewall capabilities for a desktop system then I dont' see the point of learning iptables. If you aren't going to use it then you'll forget how to use it.

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>>60600725
lets say you are running a server, where does one start to learn iptables?

>>60600758
arch wiki

>>60600758
r t f m

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https://twitter.com/debian/status/868223108741685249

>>60600684

iptables are deprecated.
nftables are deprecating it.

>>60601108
nftables NEVER took off.
iptables are standard

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>>60600016
>suffering from hereditary effects of the holocaust
they probably believe this too

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>linux """""""""""security""""""""""
We skid now.

>>60601036
Awesome, devuan testing can prepare for the next release based on testing and will probably come out a matter of months rather than years after stretch.

Got a massive project on visual studio that I want to continue to work on with my laptop running Arch.

Is there an easy way to compile it? I know a (little) bit about makefiles, but do I really have to go through 73 files and write down the dependencies for each one to compile, not to mention linking libraries manually?

>>60601189
samba's already patched you stupid cia ngiger

>>60601285
learn cmake
thank me for the rest of your life.

>>60601356
So Cmake is some way of automatically making makefiles kinda?

Is it hard?

>>60595513
Anyone here ever tried Arch with systemd removed? Is it usable?

My new rig is arriving in a week or so and I'm thinking of switching back to Arch (from Gentoo). Gentoo is really nice but there's just too much stuff that doesn't work (e.g. "sudo pip install [something]" breaks the package manager always). I don't like systemd though.

Any other suggestions are welcome but be aware I've probably tried all at least semi-mainstream distros in my time.

>>60601356
someone argue that cmake is incompatible with a lot of systems and they needed to rebuild a lot of times

>>60601356
What's so great about cmake over regular make?

>>60595662

>>60601285
>>60601431
use autotools and don't fall into a trap

>>60601375
is harder to handle raw makefiles.

>>60601426
he just need to get stuff into linux.

>>60601431
makes things easier.

>>60601451
never tried autotools to be sincere. Myabe is better, maybe not.

>>60601331
>samba's already patched
Good thing 99.99999% of all Linux systems don't get updates automatically. When will you brainlets learn?

>>60601479
Thanks for summing it up. I love developing on something other than windows but I never expected to be so confused about compiling something

>>60595866
So should niggers be "liberated" by making them wear chains and shackles again?

>>60601492
I run sudo pacman -Syu twice a day you dumb ass cia nigger

>>60601492
Good thing 99.999999% of all relevant linux systems are supposedly maintained by people who keep track of the news

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>>60601511
Funny that you mention that but niggers unironically wear chains as a symbol of their freedom

>>60595728
Holy shit that's cool. That is super easy

I know the Hyperbola devs are lurking because you shilled your distro in the previous thread. Explain why I can't download it.

https://www.hyperbola.info/Get_Hyperbola

What's the most lightweight distro and wm I can use in a virtualbox for torrenting?

>>60601688
Devuan netinstall

>>60601688
Why would you use a virtual machine for torrenting?

>>60601698
So I can connect to a vpn but still use my regular connection outside of the virtual environment.

any vim experts here?

is it possible to open a new window within vim and run code in just that window? kinda like when pressing f1 and the help window pops up. I would like it like that but run my code in that window.

or do I need tmux for this?

Sorry for the idiotic question, 192.168.0.0 is the home network right? So if I want to set an iptables rule to allow access only from a computer from inside my home I would issue

iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j ACCEPT

is this correct?

>>60601789
Yes I'm pretty sure that's correct

>>60595513
About to upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.04. Anything I should be wary of? I heard v16.04 had a lot of changes people were generally against. I usually just program, use a web browser and play games via a few emulators.

>>60601827
Do a fresh install, upgrade always breaks something on ubuntu.

>>60601837
Yep. Downloading the ISO right now, just wondering if there was any major stuff it broke.

I am fucking stupid and i really need adobe air for lubuntu, there's this shitty netbook that i inserted lubuntu on and i don't really use it much, i need adobe air for a windows game i want to play on it can anyone please help me

>>60601905
what the fuck is adobe air?

>>60601905
https://get.adobe.com/air/

>>60602027
botnet

>>60602027
1 second on duckduckgo Adobe AIR
adobe.com
Adobe AIR is a cross-platform runtime system developed by Adobe Systems for building desktop applications and mobile applications, programmed using Adobe Flash, ActionScript and optionally Apache Flex.More at Wikipedia
Developer(s):Adobe Systems
Initial release:February 25, 2008
Development status:Active

>>60602041
Not supported on linux

>>60602073
https://www.google.com/#q=adobe+air+linux

I'm trying to install something from the AUR that has a shitton of dependencies. isn't there an option to just install everything without bothering me? it keeps prompting me to press y or n

>>60602169
Why not just install the dependencies before installing the software? The AUR website will list dependencies.

>>60602169
append the command with --noconfirm
Ex:

yaourt -S qtdragon-dildo-git --noconfirm

can someone explain yes?

New thread:
>>60602218
>>60602218
>>60602218
>>60602218
>>60602218

>>60601712
kek
tunnels

>>60596060
Antergos.

>>60596080
But is there a Devuan Unstable?

>>60596140
Absolutely!

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>>60596577

>>60596618
Then break it down into smaller, manageable parts, dumbfuck.

That's the *nix way.

>>60596713
That's because Redhat/NSA runs your computer for you, retard.

>>60598781
Arch GNU/Linux, moron.

>>60601520
Is that all? Lazy.

Anyone have experience with https://www.scaleway.com/?