What do windows users have against Linux?

>>60572441
Linux users bully wincucks on /g/ REEEEEE

>>60572461
It's the other way around most of the time.

>>60572441
Nothing. It's a perfectly good OS for routers and phones.
We just have something against freetards who shill Linux 24/7. I wonder how much Red Hat pays them.

>>60572495
14 bing points per (you). 3 rupees per GET

>>60572480
.........

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>>60572461

>>60572441
We have a functioning OS that you don't have to fix every five minutes.

>>60572512
>functioning OS
>Update windows
>It's broken

>Functioning OS

I hate how linux fags spend hours ricing their desktop just to take a screenshot

>>60572441
It's called satisficing. People don't rationally optimize every aspect of their lives. If something they are already familiar with gets the job done there is little motivation to change ways despite superior alternatives.

>>60572512
>install windows
>look for drivers
>download drivers from manufacturer's website
>no wifi drivers no hope
>misery

>install Linux
>just werks
>joy

>>60572441
>>60572461
>>60572550
It's GNU/Linux.

>>60572550
You hate that you can't nigger

>>60572550
It's for aesthetics, anon. If you don't like it, just stick to default.

unstable
no support
no games
no drivers
windows can do virtually everything linux can

You linux shills appear out of the woodwork every time Windows is mentioned and go on and on about how Linux is so superior and completely ignore any valid criticisms like how some people need software that only works on Windows.

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>>60572550
Is this the "riced desktop" that you accuse Linux fags such as myself of having?

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>>60572512
>6 year old Debian machine still killin' it
>The Windows VM onboard shat itself during an update

>>60572512
>fix every five minutes

 05:17:03 up 485 days, 54 min, 13 users,  load average: 0.54, 0.32, 0.31

That's my desktop system. Please post your Windows uptime.

>>60572824
>windows can do virtually everything linux can
Except making sense.

>>60572528
>>60572591
>>60573106
>>60573133
>Say something that triggers Loonix faggots
>Guaranteed replies
top kek

>>60572441
They have irrational hatred for anyone who dares to use something they are not familiar with, in part because they feel threatened, and in part because they have Stockholm syndrome.

Seriously, start a thread asking a simple question about doing X Y or Z in Linux and watch a winfat show up with
>HURRR DURR INSTALL WENDOOS AND BE PRODUCTIVE LIKE MEEE SHITPOSTING ON 4CHAN AND PLAYING VIDYA

Windows users fucking destroyed the posting quality on this board over the past couple of years and honestly the only way to fix it is to start banning people who also frequent /v/

>>60572914
>linux shills
I'm not sure you understand what that word means.

>>60572824
>unstable
>no drivers
ishygddt

>windows can do virtually everything linux can
except stop putting fucking commercials on your own desktop and spying on you

>>60573133
don't you reboot for kernel updates and shit?

>>60573223
Haven't had any of particular note. 90+% of kernel upgrades are bugfixes in particular drivers.

>>60572550
>*loli pedo 10 year old anime girl*
>*pink or blue pastel bright colors or meme dark edgy backgrounds*
>look at my specs that look like a command line, I'm so hacker by installing a non-windows OS
>wow im actually browsing 4chan on this non-windows browser, windows fags btfo

>be tech illiterate
>use Windows (because you're tech illiterate)
>get infected with wannacry or some shit (see above)
they just lash out at others to take out their frustration over being cucks

>>60573234
which distro senpai? debian?

>>60573133
>>60573223
I like to reboot once a week or every other week for kernel upgrades. Still better uptime than the average Windows system

>>60573259
Debian stable, yes. I'll probably reboot in the near future when Stretch is released.

>>60573191
t. Linux cuck
Good luck with Steam

>>60573273
Good for you, I have to reboot whenever nvidia, systemd or the kernel updates

t. Arch User

>>60573133
>posts server's uptime
>calls it "his desktop system"
i know you're trying to compensate, but c'mon

>>60573310
>systemd
Well, there's your problem.

>>60573321

 05:35:46 up 1212 days, 21:20,  3 users,  load average: 1.21, 0.85, 0.65

That's my server. Well, one of them, at least.

>>60573332
systemd is bae though, except with hibernating, in that case I hate it

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>>60573290
what are you talking about? Steam just works out of the box for most distros.

>>60573254
>be tech illiterate
>use Linux (because you're tech illiterate enough to think continually fixing a broken OS is better than having a working one)
>wannacry about Windows all day because you get your identity from your OS and Windows makes it look like shit.

>>60573359
>systemd is bae though
>Bæ/bae is a Danish word for poop.
I agree.

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>>60573365
>you get your identity from your OS
pretty much described yourself. pic related. go back to /v/ and never post on this board again

>>60573386
See
>>60573365

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>>60573369
wai.... what?

I dont like them for the simple fact that they're black

>>60572441
It's literally just because they're too stupid to use it. There's nothing wrong with Windows as a workstation/gaming OS, but when it comes to actually getting stuff done nothing beats Linux.

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>>60573290
Wow, that was hard

This is just another example of winfags speaking from a place of ignorance. Having never tried anything different, they irrationally attack and hate anything that is remotely different from what they're used to, even if no one is telling them to use it. Most of the time they just make up bullshit that isn't even true.

>>60573426
>Free
>Buy

The only downside to Linux is its harder to play games on it.

>>60572441
We don't think about Linux most of the time, until Linuxfags start threads such as this.

>>60573290
>apt-get install steam
alright I feel dumb for responding to such shitty bait but come on, are Windows users really this retarded?

>>60573447
Then I guess you don't have a job doing anything other than help desk monkey shit.

>>60573365
Linux only breaks if you fuck it up, if linux breaks it is directly your fault

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>>60573471
Yes.
>HURR DURR THERES NO INSTALLER WIZARD THAT TRIES TO INSTALL A MILLION DIFFERENT TOOLBARS AND BITCOIN MINERS HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO WORK UNDER THESE CONDITIONS

>>60573386
Linux user here. I don't get the joke in the picture. What do you have against gaming? Are you not aware that game development is a legitimate and powerful art form? Granted, it's very rarely used to its full potential -- most developers just want to make fun and enjoyable experiences and make lots of money -- but has it never occurred to you that there's something deeper worth being created here? You can catch glimpses of it every once in awhile in some particularly special game:
>Mother 3
>Journey
>Flower
>Yume Nikki
>Lisa: the Painful RPG
>Zelda: Majora's Mask
>Portal 2
>Undertale
>Spec Ops: the Line
But even these are only fractions of the true potential of video games as an artistic medium that can be used to enlighten its players and convey powerful messages about society.

>>60573489
>Linux only breaks if you use it. If you use it it's directly your fault.
Pretty much.

>>60573489
The truth has been spoken.

>>60573491
Hey.
Boogie may be a landwhale but he's an alright guy.
You fuck right off.

>>60573508
Give me one example.

>>60573497
I have nothing against gaming. I love video games. Just can't stand PC masterfats who derive some sense of superiority from the fact that they play video games and shit up every thread with "CANT PLAY VIDYA FUCK THAT"

>>60573538
I didn't say anything about Boogie. He's a good guy

>>60572914
Okay, big shot. Why Microsoft allow NSA to use a known backdoor that they don't bother to patch?

>>60573544
Why are you making "Hurr durr Linux is da bestest and windoze is dumb" threads?

As a Windows user I'm just fucking jealous. The desktops look way better, there is no built-in spyware, and it's far less bloat. But as a PC noob I also want to know if it can run

1. Games
2. Basic software for word processing, web browsing, and utilities like calculators and such
3. Is it a bug fest or is it pretty easy to use

>>60572441
It's the other way around, just look at this thread or the catalog

>>60573538

>alright guy
>literally too scared to state his opinion in fear of offending others

fuck boogie

>>60573544
Oh.
Yeah that seems obnoxious.
Besides, it's not even true. Linux can definitely hypothetically play vidya, and I'm working on realizing that hypothesis right now. It's just something you don't hear about often because most game developers are just brown-nosing Big Names(C) that don't give a shit about anything but publishing the BIGGEST stuff for the BIGGEST corporations and making a small fortune. It's really sad there aren't more game devs who see the art in it, but I'm glad we're starting to see our numbers rise.

>>60573473
So much butthurt.
Your tiny brain thinks that jobs using computers only revolve around programmers, IT, helpdesk and lowly wage-slave jobs.

>>60573565
>Games
Yeah, but some you might have to use wine
>Basic software
there's LibreOffice for qord processing web browsing you an get basically any web browser you can on windows and everything else there is an equivelent for
>bug fest
Its pretty easy to learn, just don't fuck around in the command line not knowing what you're doing

>>60573565
>PC noob
>games
From that criteria alone it's probably not for you. It's not well-suited for the average gamer/media-consumer. It requires an open mind to different ways of doing things, and sometimes a DIY mentality.

As for basic word processing and web browsing, of course. It has Chrome and Firefox. LibreWriter is a more than adequate replacement for MS Word, unless you have some bizarrely specific use case that requires MS Word. And in my opinion the default calculator that comes with GNOME is better than the default that comes with Windows 10.

>>60573582
Linux fills my niche gaming preferences well enough. I like weeb shit like VNs and lewd panty shot games. Neither Windows nor Linux properly supports older installments of my favorite series, particularly the Atelier or MGS series. Not without an emulator, anyways

>>60572441
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2510334/financial-it/how-linux-mastered-wall-street.html

>>60573565
>1. Games
Basically no. You have Portal 2, a bunch of silly phone games, a pretty nice selection of gaming console emulators, anything that runs on Java, and a fantastic resource base to make your own games if you want to. That's about it.
>2. Basic software for word processing, web browsing, and utilities like calculators and such
In abundance.
>3. Is it a bug fest or is it pretty easy to use
Both. The OS itself is solid; pretty few "bugs" per se. But the hardware support isn't great. It's not that they CAN'T get it together on that front; they just WON'T, because a lot of hardware drivers are proprietary, and distributing proprietary software or otherwise encouraging its use is against their whole philosophy. You can still obtain and install the drivers and everything works smoothly, but until you do, some things can be a pain sometimes. That being said, support problems and such are pretty easy to deal with. Linux's error messages are much more informative and specific than those supplied by Windows. Easier to Google on, and a lot of resources to provide advice.

>>60573565
Games will run at nearly native speed if you have a second GPU to dedicate to a VM. Look at the list of games under SteamOS on steam to see

>>60573700
lul anon please. Basically all source games run on linux or perfectly on wine.

>>60573700
>Basically no.
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=topsellers&os=linux

>>60572441
I have nothing against linux and would use it exclusively if it weren't for video games.

>>60572441
Both operating system are absolutely trash, Mac & BSD all the way.

>>60573570
This is kindof true. I use linux on my main machine and I'm actually annoyed at times by the general ineptitude displayed by most windows users, but they are a source of income. I don't troll them though. I try to help them. The trolling against linux here is probably just past time because it is tempting to reply to anti-linux bait. Also the fud is pretty effective at keeping windows users away from linux and microsoft is a pretty aggressive company. When I set up a windows machine and get it running nice I can see the value of it. I can also see the agression of it as well and I find it deplorable. But I use an older version of windows in a vm for some old applications and I value that.

I'm annoyed by poor windows users that beg for help with really simple shit and not thinking outside the box and not using free (free as in free beer) things to their advantage like linux and vm's etc. cause it's too hard. When you're poor you got time. Save your money.

>>60572441
Haven't met a windows user that had anything against linux. Most don't know about it or think it's too hard, but none are against it.

>>60572441
>What do windows users have against Linux?

Shit doesn't work every fucking day and you have to google how to fix it. The fix is with the terminal of course.

Using the terminal.

Low selection of software.

Also the only time I ever use it is to run some aspie's open source program that he decided to make for linux. Then I'm stuck in the terminal for an hour collecting all the dependencies because his install directions didn't work, finally install shit, then find out I need more dependencies.

Linux is a tinker toy and not a real OS so its users can feel superior for fixing something that's always worked on windows. If you keep using an OS for a hobby instead of a tool you'll be eating crud off your foot one day.

>>60573795
>be retarded
>make retard post
everytime

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>>60573795
I don't know how to use it correctly therefore it's bad

>>60573795
>Shit doesn't work every fucking day and you have to google how to fix it
Wrong

Shit literally just works once you have it installed, more stable than any Windows operating system in my experience.

>sudo apt-get install program
>dependencies installed with program automatically
It's not the fault of Linux if some guy decided to make a program for it without a proper list of the dependencies you need.

>>60573795
what the fuck are you even doing using a program not properly supported by the package manager devs if you barely even know how to use the terminal? stick to windows, I don't care what your use case is, stick to Windows, it's for stupid people like you. It's not always the best tool for the job but sometimes stupid people can't handle the best tool for the job.

>>60573828
>mine works

>>60573828
>sudo apt-get install program
And you know every program name because Linux only has 3 worth using.

>>60573795
>Linux is a tinker toy
meanwhile the primary argument winfats have against Linux is "muh gaymes"

nice toy OS you have there

>>60573858
apt search $program

pacman is better in every way

>>60573858
>sudo apt-cache search program
>google programName distroName
this is actually simpler than installing shit on Windows because it cuts out the steps in between that require you to download a .exe from some sketchy site and click through the installer hoping they don't sneak in some toolbars or some shit

>>60573849
>what the fuck are you even doing using a program not properly supported by the package manager devs if you barely even know how to use the terminal?

Because it's not on windows. Wow that was hard.

>>60573828
>It's not the fault of Linux if some guy decided to make a program for it without a proper list of the dependencies you need.

It's the culture of that platform. People depend on other's code a lot, but its up to the user to go install it. When people make windows apps they don't do that shit.

>>60573806
>>60573818
Did the last wart on your foot taste good?

>trying to install .net framework 4
>installer just sits there for an hour before failing
>doesn't give any info
>google search for an hour until i find some random program that fixes broken .net installers
>still doesn't work
>restart computer five times each taking minutes to load because windows
>finally installs after the millionth time

>>60572441
Nothing. Linux users are the racists ones.

>>60573858
>apt list *word-i-think-is-probably-part-of-the-name-of-the-program-i-want* | less
>scroll around and find the thing
>sudo apt install the-thing

>>60573254
>use windows
>dont be an idiot to begin with
>nothing bad happens
>enjoy wide collection of games without having to use an OS emulator

>>60573870
You have to play with the OS because it has no games

>>60573890
for me, it's actually simpler
>pacman -Ss programName
9 times out of 10 it will be in the repositories. if not:
>yaourt programName
Will definitely be there.

>>60573923
You have to play games because you don't have a job

>>60573904
>Did the last wart on your foot taste good?
insults poster not argument

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>>60573919
>nothing bad happens
I call bullshit

>>60573890
You're literally MitM'd.

>>60572591
> having Radeon card
> figuring out how to install steam
> doesn't launch

"Just works"

>>60573919
>use windows
>dont be an idiot to begin with
these two requirements are mutually exclusive
>nothing bad happens
even if it were possible to use windows and also not be an idiot to begin with, bad things would still happen, it's called telemetry
>enjoy wide collection of games without having to use an OS emulator
>he uses his OS for games
Give me that, you don't deserve it.

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>>60573933
You have to play games because you don't have a job

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>>60573919
>enjoy wide collection of games without having to use an OS emulator
What a fucking lie. The only games that are even worth playing on PC are ports from consoles.

>>60573958
>install some obscure distro
>wtf why no work
don't be retarded get an arch-based distro or mint/unbuntu

>>60573934
What's a legitimate response for someone who says you're too stupid to fix linux when they admit they are too stupid to use windows?

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>>60573971
You have to play games because you don't have a job

>>60573974
>that pic
Sad!

>>60573955
>using Windows 10
I used Ubuntu before it was popular and it had versions that were shit too.>>60573959
>>60573959
>*tips fedora*
>>60573974
kek

>>60573990
stawman

>>60573974
Everyone releases there games on Steam. Only garbage companys like EA or indie devs sell copies in store

Nothing. My phone runs on a modified Linux kernel.

>>60573999
fallacy fallacy

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>>60573992
You have to play games because you don't have a job

>>60574000
>go to steam
>all indie shit
>only good games are the ones that are also sold in stores or were sold in stores at some point but are too old for anyone to buy off store shelves now

>>60573990
>calling someone to stupid to use windows
>has no basic understanding of how operating systems work other then gayming and watching internet porn

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>>60573999
stallman*

>>60574022
You can buy Diablo 2 and Starcraft: Broodwar online.

>>60573990
Nothing, because literally no one is too stupid to use Windows. I used it when I was fucking 5 years old. Stopped responding while I was trying to play a Sesame Street Elmo game or some shit, I had to unplug it and plug it back in and when I saw the black screen with the bootloader recovery menu, do you know what I told my mom? I told her, "Mommy, the computer's mad at me." That's how fucking easy and dumbed down Shitdows is. Easy enough for a 5 year old to understand, unstable enough for a 5 year old to crash.

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>>60573990
>too stupid to use Windows

>>60574025
>thinks fixing his OS is it "working"

>>60574038
that's what I said. the only games on steam worth buying are the ones that are also in stores. the rest is just shovleware crap made in some fag's basement

>>60574025
>calling someone to stupid to use windows
I didn't call it out. Anons are coming forward in this thread saying they can't get windows to work.

>has no basic understanding of how operating systems work other then gayming and watching internet porn

This is why linux is trash. It's like a car designed for mechanics. I don't want to fix my car. I want to drive it.

>>60573244
/thread

>>60574022
this, I used to be all about that "PC Master Race" shit because my friends were. Kept looking for games that I actually liked, had to look hard, and the only ones that were even worth paying for were also available on consoles. In fact a lot of the games I like most never even get a PC release, so you have to settle for some hacky emulator shit.

recently I found that "PC master race" shit started as a reddit meme. Seems appropriate.

>>60574090
>It's like a car designed for mechanics.
If the software equivalent of a car designed for mechanics is not suited to your tastes, then clearly you are not the software equivalent of a mechanic. That being the case, get out, this is /g/.

>>60574090
>I want to drive it.
I'd rather drive a car that doesn't veer to the right for no reason.

>>60572441
These are strange times, you can run ubundoo in win10 and run win10 in linux with GPU passthrough. Does it really matter which matryoshka OS you choose?

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>>60574109

>>60574090
I'd rather drive a car that doesn't restart when I'm in the middle of driving it.
>>60574109
also, this. if you don't know or care how computers work, then what the fuck are you doing on this board? /v/ is literally a click away.

>>60574110
I'd rather drive a car that has thumbnail previews and doesn't have screen tearing

Oh wait, I know, you can google these things and fix them.

>>60574109
>secret club OS

And this is our son's room

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>>60574134
*presses emergency wallpaper change hotkey*

>>60574134
Actually I only have a mother, my father raped me when I was 4 so he's never allowed near us again :^)

>>60574126
An OS is supposed to do work, not be work.

>>60574126
>also, this. if you don't know or care how computers work, then what the fuck are you doing on this board? /v/ is literally a click away.

I don't care how computers work as a requirement for using them. That's retarded. That's the entire point of abstraction. All the competent developers that understood this got hired to work on something that isn't linux.

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>>60574127
>thumbnail preview
what? this works out of the box on GNOME.

>screen tearing
you just install the correct driver for your card. and some distros like Ubuntu just do it for you.

what exactly is your experience with Linux?

>>60574127
never had either of those problems

>>60574155
pajeets are not competent developers, anon.

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>>60574157
>loli yuri
I should have guessed as much.

>>60574069
steam is working on removing the non-games like that. Some moron at steam accepted basically everything with VR in the title without checking and they changed the name after it was accepted. That is how so much garbage got on

>>60574090
>car breaks down
>WELP time to go to a mechanic and over pay for the fix.

>>60574157
>what? this works out of the box on GNOME.

Oh, cool

>you just install the correct driver for your card. and some distros like Ubuntu just do it for you.

I had to install an alternative, something called a compositor if I remember right. I already had the right drivers.

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>>60574174
girls are supposed to be kissing each other

>>60574194
>his OS breaks

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>>60574197
Did you take your whormones today at least?

>>60574155
>LINUX DOESNT PLAY MY GAMES HAHA FUCKING LAME
>Now excuse me while I pretend to care about professional work for this specific discussion.

Fucking winfags, never mean anything they say and their positions are constantly with the discussion.

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>>60574205
>his OS breaks

>>60574159
And I haven't had problems from windows in about 10 years ever since I started building my own systems and clean installing.

>>60574110
>I'd rather drive a car that doesn't veer to the right for no reason.

>Car tell me what is your political stance?
>besser tot als rot, verdammtes kommunistisches Schwein
ok

I run Arch

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>>60574205

>>60574194
>car doesnt break down
>WELP time to keep using my computer

>>60574219
>Fucking winfags, never mean anything they say and their positions are constantly with the discussion.
Exactly, they're like those FUCKING LIBERALS >:(

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>>60574223
>strawman, or as I've taken to calling it, stallman

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>>60574223
>>60574231

>>60574219
I didn't criticize linux for lack of games. That's an ecosystem problem and not a shitty design problem.

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>>60574247
>>60574231

>>60574247
>probl W (0
is this pajeet ooga booga language seeping out of the code?

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>>60574247

Their computer didn't come with it
the end

>>60574255
If this is linux stuff, he obv fucked something up himself.
>>60574265
It IS important for them to fix this shit.
I would opt for distros that don't have massive UX breakages, though.

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>>60574223

>>60574038
a good private Diablo 2 server is: SlashDiablo

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>>60574255
wow look at that, a helpful journaling system AND the option to go into the command line if you don't want to just restart it.

meanwhile, Windows recently started removing any error messages, pic related. Presumably because the majority of their users are too stupid to google the easy fix and were just taking it to geek squad at best buy no matter what.

If I could pick on thing for Windows to improve on it would be better journaling/logging so you can pinpoint what actually went wrong. What the fuck is a frowny face supposed to tell me? I'm not 5 years old, I'm a paying customer who doesn't have time to take this to get fixed.

>>60574245
>>60574278
>>60574265
God damn those are ancient.

Any that aren't XP era?

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>>60574277
Good goy, send us your info...

>>60574237
YEAH WINFAGS ARE LIBERALS! FUCK LIBERALS, FUCK WINBERALS

>>60574250
It's due to a problem that lies at the heart of open sores: nobody competent is willing to take charge. DirectX took off because Microsoft was willing to work to make Windows the best gaming platform possible. Nobody has worked to make Linux the best at anything. If it wasn't free it wouldn't be used anywhere near as much.

>>60574309
Most people still use Windows 7 and that's from nearly a decade ago. Ubuntu 13 is far newer than that I believe.

>>60574330
>Windows
>best gaming platform possible
That's not how you spell Xbox or PS4, or even Wii U

Windows is shit because there are no good games.

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>>60574126
>>60573959
You're right, works great!

>>60574330
>nobody competent is willing to take charge
Wouldn't say that, just that every effort to challenge Microsoft's monopoly on PC gaming doesn't really get a lot of support, probably because most Linux users are developers or sysadmins and don't really care about games as much.

For this reason, I always appreciate game devs that release a Linux version, because you know they didn't have to, and in fact it's probably not worth it profit-wise to have a Linux version because not a lot of Linux users game. They do it because they're passionate about their game and want as many people to play it as possible, and also probably because a lot of them do their game developing in Linux and genuinely love and care about the Linux ecosystem.

>>60574366
just werks on my machine :^)

now try it on a computer that isn't a toaster from 2006

Most hobbyist Linux users are like the Jevoha's witnesses.

>>60573244
>it's somehow a negative that you can customize your desktop

>>60574430
Jehovah's Witnesses don't hate you for having a different religion like Linux users do anyone using a different OS.

>>60574445
sounds like Windows users
>Oh hey guys anyone here use Gentoo? was wondering about compiling Krita--
>"REEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT FREETARD USE A PROFESSIONAL OS LIKE MINE THAT PROPERLY SUPPORTS MY GAMES!!!"

every fucking thread

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>>60572441
>What do windows users have against Linux?
retards usually resent people that aren't as retarded as them

>>60574464
Nobody would care if you freetards weren't such evangelists about your hobbyist OS. You paint a bullseye on yourselves.

>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>Wait, you mean that client that can't connect for shit and sits there STALLED?
>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>you mean STALLEDtorrent?
>use qBittorrent!! uTorrent is botnet!
>you mean STALLEDtorrent?
>WAAAH WHY WON'T YOU STOP MAKING FUN OF qBITTORRENT?

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>>60574437
>>60574401

>>60574499
qbittorrent is trash

transmission is better.

>>60574499
I don't care what you use, but uTorrent is trash nowadays. bundling adware and injecting ads into the actual UI? No thanks

Nothing.
Most likely if I buy a laptop or something for working I'll use linux. At the moment windows is just too convenient for games, which is 80% of what I do on my current PC

>>60572441
They're upset their drives got encrypted by WannaCry.

>>60574500
I repeat,
>It's somehow a negative that you can customize your desktop

>>60574500
>>60574562
made me kek though. 7/10

>>60574541
And why would anyone use anything but 2.2.1?

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>>60572441
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>60573489
yup...

Im running an AMD athlon x64 running any mainstream distro of linux just fine.

but, I need a GPU added just to watch 1080p videos my computers so fucking old.

>>60572510
I never understood this meme. It seems to be propagated by the same kind of brainless baby duck dipshit that thinks Unix-like systems are the only operating systems with shells, text editors and compilers whose computer security knowledge is summed up by a few rounds of /fglt/ and malware happening shitposting, and who couldn't do jack shit on any operating system without a wiki to hold their hand through any step.

Practically speaking, NT was built from the start for server and workstation usage, and it's perfectly usable in those roles, it's merely a different paradigm.

>>60574656
GNU/Linux*

>>60572914
Like what? 3d modeling, Animation, Video encoding, word processors, power point presentation software?
Linux has all that and much more...

Fuck if you wanna argue over Sony Vegas pro or adobe Premier or vidya games then go to a mac thread.

>>60574716
GNU/Linux*

>>60573555
Because the NSA discovered it independently and didn't disclose it to Microsoft?

>>60572654
I hate that I can't nigger too. I wish I could nigger. I can't even dougie

>>60574090
>This is why linux is trash. It's like a car designed for mechanics. I don't want to fix my car. I want to drive it.

Then, do you know which part that caused the car to have problems so that you can haggle the mechanic to an appropriate price?

>>60574716
That's all just basic bitch shit, any platform has that. What matters are the niche titles; my grandma's online auction management suite, the shitty business plan writing assistant I used in high school, the tons of other software out there performing tasks you've never heard of and nobody with the clout and capability of developing a large free software project has heard of either. The advantage of the PC platform has always been the reality that if you want something, there is someone out there who has already done it.

Besides, if you've been here for more than a day you'd know that whether or not people consider counterparts between either platform as good as the other is always a subject up for debate. I despise a lot of major free software suites for their lack of polish, they're simply unenjoyable to use and pointless to subject myself to. I live on the terminal because that's the only respite I have from ugly GTK/Qt OS X/Metro wannabe trash.

>>60574118
Also, saves your road tax money and car insurance.

>>60574155
>I don't care how computers work as a requirement for using them.
Yeah. Because you sent it to your favourite and greedy IT shop that will charge you $100 for format and backup.
>That's retarded. That's the entire point of abstraction. All the competent developers that understood this got hired to work on something that isn't linux.
Anon, "hire to work on something" isn't a way to get through HR screening.

>>60574126
>also, this. if you don't know or care how computers work, then what the fuck are you doing on this board? /v/ is literally a click away.
It's really funny when people on /g/ try to act like using Linux teaches you how a computer works, as if downloading an ISO and clicking through an installer is some sort of incredibly arduous task, or copy-pasting lines into a config file from a wiki.

There are shitheads in my CS program slated to graduate soon that have been using Linux for four fucking years and still don't know what a desktop environment is, fuck, my first foray into Linux was fucking minimal Debian with Windowmaker when I was 14, shit's easy, even your grandma could use a command line interface in the '80s.

I don't hate Linux, but God, do I hate the /g/ Linux userbase and their inflated sense of computing knowledge.

>>60574962
GNU/God

>>60574970
I like it, you've redeemed yourself.

>>60574962
>argues about computer knowlege
>doesn't know that it's the GNU system
>calls it Linux like a normie

>>60572441
Nothing against Linux. It has pissed me off only once, when I got rid of my secondary Linux dual boot partition and it took the MBR with it.

But I have yet to meet a Linux user who is not smug and on his high horse about it.
Mac users are like vegans and Linux users are freegans of the community.

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>>60572512
>We have a functioning OS that you don't have to fix every five minutes.
windows 7 or 8.1? sure. windows 10 not so much.

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>>60574998
I didn't think you would be this quick to prove my point, throwing out limp-dick FSF talking points that have nothing to do with the core argument in an attempt to deflect from the reality that you are a brainless sheep who knows nothing but regurgitation.

>>60572441
don't have anything against Linux, I used it a couple of weeks but then I realized I actually needed real programs & occasionally needed to be productive & not a fat piece of shit

>>60572441
>>60575718

>>60572441
They're rude and act like Windows users are brain dead and that somehow Linux is above anything else, and will fight endlessly to refute all complaints leveled against Linux.

Having once been a full time Linux user, now a Windows user, it's easy to see why. Generally Linux people tend to act righteous, making the normies who use Windows feel retarded. It's a little infuriating for them I guess. But hey, it's always great just dropping, "I use Windows :)" on a group of neckbeards and watching them rage now.

>>60574863
This is even more of a reason to hate Windows, though. It encourages creating proprietary software absolute essential to whatever the task in question, and then abandoning it or never supporting it. That leads to all kinds of issues and vulnerabilities.
People might burn out and not finish an open source project, but at least someone COULD fork it and take over. Windows actively tries to prevent this.

>>60574090
Your point wasn't bad, but calling "Linux" trash is the only thing the weeaboo-posix users will be taking from your comment.

>>60575101
And then you realized switching to windows isn't going to burn off that extra 300lbs

>>60574090
Difference between Windows and GNU/Linux is more like the difference between an automatic and a manual transmission. Slightly different interface, but much easier to fix or change. Worse than an automatic in some cases, but generally the difference in performance is negligible.

>>60574962
>It's really funny when people on /g/ try to act like using Linux teaches you how a computer works, as if downloading an ISO and clicking through an installer is some sort of incredibly arduous task, or copy-pasting lines into a config file from a wiki.
Reusability, anon.
>There are shitheads in my CS program slated to graduate soon that have been using Linux for four fucking years and still don't know what a desktop environment is, fuck, my first foray into Linux was fucking minimal Debian with Windowmaker when I was 14, shit's easy, even your grandma could use a command line interface in the '80s.
CS program are all about principles that will carry you off for the rest of your lives. Not making them to be codemonkeys or supercomputers loaded with all technician's use-cases.
>I don't hate Linux, but God, do I hate the /g/ Linux userbase and their inflated sense of computing knowledge.
What gave that away?

>>60574157
Why Linux provides such amazing font rendering comparing to Windows? What's wrong with MS?

>>60573172
>I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>60572441
I use both.... So nothing?

>LOONIX for managing my server & comfy programming
>winders for 3d modelling, design, engineering and different comfy programming.

>>60573603
>L-Lol look how b-butthurt you are!

>>60574223
>>60574247
I-Is that the new blue screen of death?

>>60574863
>The advantage of the PC platform has always been the reality that if you want something, there is someone out there who has already done it.
There's still no good source port for Blood yet.

>>60573544
>Just can't stand PC masterfats who derive some sense of superiority from the fact that they play video games
I, on the other hand, can't stand tech illiterate de/g/enerates who think using a Linux distro for watching porn on the internet suddenly turns them into seasoned IT experts while ricing desktop makes them modern age computer wizards.
Meanwhile, most of them are shitty CS students who like to waste their time at comparing "FizzBuzz" implementations as they keep always losing at comparing dick sizes. Their practical experience is nonexistent, their knowledge is limited to short-term memorized stuff from Wikipedia, "what anon on /g/ said", and "that one tweet".
The vast majority of the vocal /g/ is insecure casuals with the inferiority complex who somehow think switching their Facebook machine (or, sorry, was it a sadpanda machine?) from Windows (or even Mac, though I hate Macs) to Linux somehow justifies their pathetic existence and serves as a valid reason for self-affirmation.

t. C# + Azure / Ruby on Rails dev who works on Win10+WSL, OSX, Ubuntu, and CentOS.

>>60575832
>But hey, it's always great just dropping, "I use Windows :)" on a group of neckbeards and watching them rage now.
They'll just feel bad for your autism.

This thread just shows that windows users need to be banned from /g/.

>>60573739
lul means penus in dutch

>>60577540
Lotta strawman for a hired dev.

>>60572441
nothing

>>60576265
highly subjective

>>60572441
Nothing, my win10 just werks and had no issues with it so I can't be bothered to change OSes
I will migrate when win10 starts actually bothering me

I have nothing against Linux. I really admire people who learn how to fix stuff by their own. Computers are great tools. I think it's good to mess with OS's to practise

But i'm studying industrial engineering. All the software i need to use is for Windows (i.e. Pspice or shitty .exe's my teachers program)

Also i feel strange with Open Office. I prefer MS Office.

I think Windows normies who don't care about games should try out Solus.

It seems like the best clone of a Windows/Mac hybrid experience that I've ever used. Believe it or not, I never had to use the terminal once when setting it up on my laptop. I'm impressed with it.

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>>60574689

>>60577540
>Azure / Ruby on Rails dev code artisan
That's not programming. Take your hipster garbage and fuck off to plebbit

>>60577540
>Ruby on Rails
>Azure
> C "sharp"
So just a script kiddie then?

>>60572441
Adobe Premiere CC 2017.

>>60578055
Azure is not only a cloud but also a platform.
>>60578088
C "sharp" is used for writing standalone apps. Ruby is for server-side MVC scripting, yes.

Meanwhile, how's your FizzBuzz doing?

>>60577834
It means dick, get your facts straight you fucking faggot.

>>60572441
what do meat eaters have against vegetarians?
what do gasoline car drivers have against electric car drivers?
what do fat people have against crossfitters?
what do smokers have against vapers?

evangelizing will always get you hated.

>>60578088
that's the dumbest shit I've ever read anon

>>60574845
>Then, do you know which part that caused the car to have problems so that you can haggle the mechanic to an appropriate price?

That's not the point. It's the "some assembly required" design of the OS. Where you have to know what's under the hood to use it.

Of course shit breaks and of course you have to troubleshoot problems. But the difference is knowing how stuff works helps me fix problems I have in windows, it doesn't help me USE windows. All that shit is fine out of the box.

>>60574107
I personally prefer PC for gaming, perhaps because I don't play any recent games. I pretty much live in the 1990s and early 2000s. It would be nice to switch to Linux, but DirectDraw support is something I am unsure about. I don't really have a computer to test it out beyond my main and the horror stories of mixing Windows and Linux (one ends up bricking the other) makes me concerned.

It is mostly FUD that keeps me around. I don't know how well Linux works, hardware acceleration required means I can't really test certain games in a VM without a second card, and I am lazy when it comes to reinstalling all my software. Essentially, I just have no problems with Windows 8.1. I have Kaby Lake, so support isn't really my biggest concern, but if things stop losing functionality I probably will test Linux more. I am of the camp that would rather have no computer at all than touch Windows 10.

I can understand a lot of the logic when Linux users say Windows is a toy OS. I see Windows 10 as such, it feels like an OS that would be on a console to play the latest games and little else. Most of the controls sound like they don't even work, with the answer being you have to do it the "right" way which turns out to be the wrong way later on because nobody knows what is going on.

Yes, I know installing Gentoo is a meme, but it is the Linux that speaks to me. The OS-Tan is hot. I really like her leotard. Oh, did I mention I base what OS I use almost entirely based on the anime character representing it and how attractive I find them? Of course functionality of the OS itself is more important, but I sure will gear myself towards the hottest girls if I can. I hold nothing against Linux because I absolutely have fallen in love with pictures of Gentoo-tan and thus am too far lost from normal society to ever be saved. Plus, if I am going free as in free, I am going to the extreme.

>>60574905
>Yeah. Because you sent it to your favourite and greedy IT shop that will charge you $100 for format and backup.

>Wanting computers to be designed to make tasks easier means you went to geek squad

I can smell you from here

>>60574998
>doesn't refute the central point
>loses argument

>>60576024
Even linus whats his face has the open opinion that linux is not a good desktop OS.

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>>60578459
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60578130
I like how webdevs/skids have this false sense of "superiority". It's pretty adorable.

>>60574110
Well, to be fair, it only does that after the 2017 update. I am on the 2016 update, it only stops moving every other inch, but I can totally drive straight. Plus your cars didn't come with a Blu Ray player of Yo Gabba Gabba. I find this feature heavily important to the discussion of cars in general and will make it a point to go to any mechanic's shops and berate them for choosing a car without a Yo Gabba Gabba Blu Ray. Sure, you can install a Blu Ray player yourself and buy a Yo Gabba Gabba disk. But because it isn't connected to every functionality in the car, you will have to do all this work to set it up and it isn't really stable because you could put a drink in the tray and break the whole thing. Plus it wasn't really included to begin with and my car can play it slightly faster because it is not a third party player. Linux cars BTFO, Yo Gabba Gabba only works on Windows cars.

>>60574146
Windows BTFO, only Linux users have fathers allowed to remain near them after they rape them,

>>60574179
Am I the only one who personally goes out of his way to play shovelware crap? Can be quite fun when you laugh at how terrible it is and that anyone would ever bother playing it.

>>60574197
Girls kiss each other, forget about me, and this is why I am a robot. Fuck lesbians for finding a route out of the system to not sleep with me.

>>60574224
I haven't had problems with Windows either since I have started logging where problems are in the OS. If I run into an issue, I just leave that part of the computer alone, Microsoft obviously didn't want me touching that.

>>60578421
look mate I get where you're coming from but I don't think you've actually used a desktop distro

>but I installed Ubuntu once
fucking when? 2005?

>>60578483
I'm sure he's a big Windows fan buddy

>>60574307
It tells you your PC is sad you broke it. Pajeet is sad his code broke. Everyone is sad. Here's a frowny face. We are sorry you couldn't do things on your computer, everyone messed up. Please hang on while we collect as much telemetry as we can to help us figure out what is wrong. Of course, nothing might be wrong, in that case we are sorry this happened and hope it works better in the future. :(

>>60574329
And here I thought Windows represented capitalism while Linux was based on socialism.

>>60572441
I don't have anything against Linux.

Thing is, I do only two thing on my computer.
Work and play games.
And I work writing c#.

For browsing I use my phone almost exclusively (except for MSDN/stack overflow while working)

>>60574499
Tixati is best. There, I just chose the OpenBSD example.

Nothing against Linux itself, or anything GNU. It's more about having something against the GNU/Linux users because 95% of the time they act like SJW vegan Jehovah witness' and are incredibly annoying and have their head so far up their own ass for so long they can no longer smell shit.

>>60572441
Nothing.

>>60578707
Windows is a Stalinist dictatorship

Linux is a democracy

>>60574499
>blames the software for downloading shit torrents with no seeds
normies, everybody.

>>60572562
Exactly. I like the way your brain works. How old are you?

>>60576051
GNU/manual transmission.

>>60573223
Not with kexec.

>>60574157
>texts aren't even vertically spaced apart consistently
This is supposed to be good looking?

>>60578786
I like Stalin. He has a cool mustache and doesn't correct me constantly with GNU/Linux.

>>60578759
Shit isn't proprietary. My ass isn't proprietary. I can look inside whenever I want and see what I ate. I know exactly what was on my shoe when I ate it. Please don't tell me you are a faggot who goes to the store and buys proprietary food that you aren't able to disassemble to molecules of. Enjoy the botnet, every bit of food has tiny cameras in it that gets inside your body and watches you a bit more. Toe jam doesn't have that. You laugh at Stallman, but he might be more aware of the world than anyone else.

>>60572591
>install Linux
>subwoofer only blasts noise
>"just werks"

>>60578522
Well, it's better than being a NEET.

The fact that a lot my programs wont run on linux.

>3D modeling programs I use at work and home
>Astrophotography stacking and processing software
>Muh games

If everything ran on it I would switch to linux completely. Until then it's dual boot or separate linux machine in addition to windows.

>>60579130
Was that your life goal? "Not being a NEET"?
Pretty low standards but then again you are a webdev

>>60579358
Well, it's better than having no standards at all.

Basically the only thing holding me back from switching to Linux is gaming. Games just werk™ on Windows. (Tho I played some supported games and I know wine exists)

>>60578581
>I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
>Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
>There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60572824
(((games)))

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>>60573359
no

>>60572441
They want everyone done for them like a baby. Go outside this very minute and ask anyone how they would install an OS on their computer. And the first there comes to mind is that they just have to boot up their newest ''consumer'' laptop.

>>60572591
>install linux
>have wlan card with literally no support whatsoever
>just werks

in all honesty i have other computers with linux on it, but i couldn't get the card running on that specific laptop.

>>60573361
Cool, how many FPS do you get in Alien Isolation or Crysis 3?

>>60572441
Linux users spend hours doing an inferior version of things that take 5 seconds in Windows then are proud of themselves.

Non-goof reason: The most vocal Linux fags are NEETs who follow tutorials for everything and have no idea what's going on ever. Then the NEETs proceed to >muhgames like they aren't just poor.

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>>60575031
>Ads
>Ads in your fucking OS
>Ads in your file manager.
You just can't make this shit up.

>>60581978
Blaire White makes me cum harder than any real™ woman.

>>60578797
>peerlist shows 3 seeds. qBittorrent connects to one, a second keeps dropping in and out never transferring a byte, and the other doesn't seem to exist at all.
>Start up uTorrent 2.2.1. It locks onto 2 immediately, and finds the third after a couple minutes.

Those dead torrents you've been living with may not have been dead at all.

>>60574041
Windows was designed well enough that a 5 year old could use it? And this was at least 13 years ago, assuming you're following the rules?

That's a pretty good job on Microsofts part since 97% of adults still can't/won't use Linux.

>>60575842
>People might burn out and not finish an open source project, but at least someone COULD fork it and take over
Yeah, they "COULD", but it rarely happens, so shut the fuck up and stop acting like abandonment isn't something that happens to any piece of software barring the big names, or that it's even an advantage that your "software absolute essential to whatever the task in question" can be left in the hands of some random hobbyist you've never met with no experience in what you do.
>>60576242
>Reusability, anon.
I said it's regurgitation, not that it's useless.
>CS program are all about principles that will carry you off for the rest of your lives. Not making them to be codemonkeys or supercomputers loaded with all technician's use-cases.
The point I was making was not that they were CS students but that they had been using the operating system for four fucking years and didn't even know its most basic components even after numerous development courses. Having that knowledge is not being a "code monkey" or "supercomputer," (???) it's "not being a retard." Stop making terrible excuses for mediocrity and retardation.

>>60581978
like ubuntu did years ago?

>>60572441
nothing.

Well, last time I _HAD TO_ use linux it was pretty shit from a user-experience standpoint (back in the early XP era, cca 2001-2002 or so). Or it may have been that the dudes that compiled it for us were retards who hated everything that didn't use a command line.

Heck, I actually prefer the aesthetic of some distros now - then again most of the stuff I use is on Windows.

All there is to it, really.

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>>60585521
Yeah. Like Canonical and Amazon did with Ubuntu years ago. Though lat I checked they don't anymore (Not excusing it though either).

>>60577462
It sure fucking is