Can I get a quick rundown?

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>>60572298
No. Fuck off.

>>60572298
best cpu series in the last 15 years

/thread

>>60572298
reks (((intel))) on everything but (maybe) gaymes
for some reason was marketed towards gaymes

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circlejerk thread? circlejerk thread

>>60572298
>Rothschilds bow to Klossy
>In "contact" with Taylor Swift
>Possess coder-like abilities
>Control Victoria's Secret with an iron but fair fist
>Own lingerie stores & koder kamps globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient runway model blood line
>Will bankroll the first Michael Bay lingerie commercial on Mars (KlossyKode will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of high heel shoe facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Klossy-Swift babies
>said to survive on 215 calories a day
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two secret angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented progress in bra design with them
>They own panty R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Klossy Kode inside your computer right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Victoria's Secret Angel Klossy, forwarding the word of God to the fashion industry.
>She learned fluent Python in under a week
>Nation states entrust their Mommy Koders to Klossy. There are no mommy koders in college, only in Klossy camps
>Klossy and Taylor's lesbian relationship is 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, their love is timeless existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent carpet munchers.

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>>60572950
>benevolent carpet munchers
comedy gold

"fuck the jew cpu" for price

>>60572298
It's really fun to have a billion cores

Wait for ThreadRipper

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I loev my Ryzen

>>60572298
Can someone give me a quick rundown on that "jew killer" guy?

>>60572298
Shits all over Intel's i5, i7 and i7-E CPUs.

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>>60572950
>Direct descendants of the ancient runway model blood line

>>60572633
This is actually a pretty good succinct explanation.

I'll add, if you live in the wrong place the MSRP and reality have nothing to do with each other.

>>60572298

Probably the best line of desktop CPU's in the past 10 years.
Hopefully they can develop mobile procs with this type of perf/watt.

>>60574569

I'm in love with you.

Waiting for manchildren to post their gayming benchmarks.
Do it, faggots!

Good for people who don't like a new socket every year & 5% CPU revision gains.
>Good for people tired of spreading their cheeks for Jewtel

>>60572298
Still not better than intel

>>60575172
I'd show you compile times but they're at work.

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>>60576275
thats my goy! give it to them goy!

>>60576275
>>60576666
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pKwQ1LfWDH

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Perfect but not for gayming.

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>>60572298

>>60576859
r5 1600 literally best gaming CPU

>>60572298
More cores and shit. Not aimed for the average or gaymen consumer. Aimed for workstations.

>>60577268
Better for gaming than R7 cpus but still behind 7700k.

Maybe Zen+ would be better.

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>>60572657
mebe i shud lower vcore

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>>60572298
>AMD releases teaster info
>/g/'s wait™ team starts creating massive hype
>people are actually starting to believe the thing will destroy a 7700K, not to mention a 6950K in performance while costing half as much
>first benchmarks come out almost reiterating that
>release day
>first gaming benchmarks are out
>it's the old story again, gets beaten by sandy bridge processors
>BUT MAH WORKSTATION GPU
>things once again start looking really bad for Ryzen
>most people cancel their orders and get a 7700K because it demolishes all the Ryzens
>at this point the shills have nothing to post about because there's not a single shred of evidence that the Ryzen performs any better than an OC'd 2600K

>>60577309
>still behind 7700k.
Behind in framerate maybe, but it has two more cores to ensures it doesn't become a bottleneck in the following years like the i5 are right now, it doesn't need an expensive $170 mobo, it doesn't need a high end cooler and it doesn't require you to monitor temperatures as it doesn't have shitty TIM, and you have to pay $140 more for this as it's more expensive & doesn't come with a cooler
The 7700k may hit higher framerate but all the flaws it has completely tarnish that, there's no way that CPU is still viable 3 years from now on when it'll reach near 90% usage in any AAA game and heat a fuckton / stutter evne more as a result

R5 1600 literally best gaming CPU. 7700k best for high framerate.

>>60577344
I'm pretty sure that the voltage actually going to the core is lower than what is reported.

>>60577414
>>60577414
i set it to 1.35

>>60577394
Once again, as a NOW not the "future". 7700k is still better.

Once games begin to use more cores then Ryzen will shine, but didn't we hear the same story before? Sounds like Phenom 6 cores, Bulldozer. Yeap same story.

Anyways, I'll wait for Zen+ and see what they can offer.

Also you're ignoring the flaws of current Ryzen chips

>Motherboard issues
>Ram incompatibility
>GPU incompatibility causing lower frames than supposed to.

You don't need expensive mobo for 7700k, you can get a mAtx for $100-120 and buy a Evo or Cryorig Cooler

>>60574569
I wanna get that case but i already have 3 ssds and i plan on getting more

Are the other bays convertible?

>>60577309
>>60577349
I would like to see which ass you pulled those claims from Shlomo. Or are you just a paid shill?

>>60577464
>but didn't we hear the same story before?
p-people said the same thing in the past!
So what? i5s are already at their limit in AAAs, and have been for years. More cores is already shining, hence why any i5 is shit in comparison to the r5 1500x and R5 1600.
No, it's not the same situation at all, don't be stupid by saying it is.

>Also you're ignoring the flaws of current Ryzen chips
Yes, i also ignored the flaws of Intel chips like dead socket and such. The point was pointing out the flaws of the specific 7700k, not Intel overall.

>Motherboard issues
What motherboard issue? What does this have to do with Ryzen?
>Ram incompatibility
This is false. Harder overclocking does not mean incompatibility.
>GPU incompatibility causing lower frames than supposed to.
This is nothing exclusive to Ryzen. Happens whenever Nvidia + more cores, though it is highly dependent on the game. Has existed since years.

>>60577609
>Just don't overclock your ram even though Ryzen performs better with higher ram clock

Are we intel now

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>>60577645
>things that i haven't said: the post

>>60577609
>Ram incompatibility
This is false. Harder overclocking does not mean incompatibility.

You need Samsung ram shit. AMD shills on full damage control

>>60577666
>You need Samsung ram shit.
Yes, if you want better overclocking
Are you stupid?

Ryzen is not great, but it kinda threatens intel's prosumer market.
It's obviously where they make the most margins with plebs.
So they're going the moar cores way too.
Knowing them, though, platform prices are gonna be fucking insane.
And it's all gonna be blown away by AMD's 16 core thing anyway.
It's all gonna end up being about pricing and power consumption.
Unless intel can pull some miracle, I don't see them beating Zen on this front, if they decide to keep their shit at 4Ghz.

>>60577683
Which it means less options for the consumer. Paying a higher price just so you can get higher clocks which it's pretty much a requirement for Ryzen since it performs better with it.

If Ryzen was a great cpu like every amd shill seems to orgasm about , it shouldn't have this problem in the first place.

>>60572298
they compare favorably to xeons.
go 1700 or 1600.

>>60577609
>Ram incompatibility
Literally had to return my ram because it would just not boot on my 1600x.

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>>60577349
Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8

>>60577752
Well i hope you waited some time for the post, specially if you have a cheaper mbo, otherwise you returned it for nothing

>>60577740
>you need decent RAM for better overclocking
OH DA HOOMANATEE!
I'd rather fucking delid my CPU!

>>60577752
>falling for unstable Ryzen hype meme
Should've waited for zen+

>>60577772
I waited 5 fucking minutes.
Now I got some samsung shit, so it werks.

>>60572298
started with some problems
still being developed
works with a lot of memory modules up to 4xxx speed nowdays
have less tdp in general
no games can make use of all the cores naturally

meanwhile on team blue
i9s on the recent leaks of sisoft sandra shows that
it has less cache
it has 2 more cores
it will be on a new socket (typical for intel)
and....
...
...
...
...
IT WILL HAVE 175W TDP HAHAHHAAHHAAHAH

>>60577780
Didn't you hear? Zen+ is probably getting skipped. Zen 2 already taped-out, serious possibility of 7nm Zen 2 on a process that clocks to the moon for NEXT YEAR, just in time to finish throwing Intel into the dumpster.

>>60577780
I was planning to do that, but my 3770k failed me.

>>60577784
Hopefully i won't have problems, getting a 3200 cl14 kit and from what I've found most of them are Samsung, lately even the hynix ones seem to work properly

>>60577773
>implying you even need to delid
Base clock 7700k outperforms Ryzen already.
Plus you don't need special snowflake ram to make it work.

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>>60577800
SHUT UP

>>60576275
>>60577309
>>60577464
The 7700k has temp spikes though and doing simple tasks when it isn't even overclocked results in it heating up.

>>60572633
for some reason gaymes was paid to optimize for intel

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>>60577832

>>60577832
>AMDrones actually belive this
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pKwQ1LfWDH

>>60574569
How did U get the window offscreen like that? I thought VR was Intel only?

>>60577816
Well I got the GSkill Ripjaw V 3200Mhz cl14.
The one that didn't boot was cl16 and probably hynix double sided shit.
Doesn't reach 3200Mhz though. Hoping on AGESA 1.0.0.6 update will help.

>>60577832
Just buy a 6700k

>>60577845
>doesn't reach 3200mhz

Just don't overclock your ram, pal

>>60577818
lolno

>>60577841
yeap thats why intel came out and said

DONT OVERCLOCK THE UNLOCKED CPUS WE JUST SOLD FOR YOU

>>60577752
>literally couldn't boot because my motherboard decided to overclock my RAM on it's own
>ryzen so bad!!
You are making a fool of yourself

>>60577800
Curious what the TDP's gonna be on AMD's 16 core stuff.
Maybe it's time for some new cooling solutions.

>>60577845
That's the one I getting too(F4-3200C14D-16GVK)

What Mobo you have? I checked the qvl for the msi I'm getting and it looks supported

>>60577875
[No source]

>>60577878
Are you an idiot.
It just wouldn't boot.
When you first boot a system, it goes to the JEDEC spec, which is 2133Mhz.
I didn't overclock shit, it's just that the memory controller just wouldn't have any of this shit.

>>60577838
>>60577841
>>60577877
>https://communities.intel.com/thread/110728
It's pretty bad when Intel employees stop commenting 11 pages in. Or maybe they do comment in later pages but shit there is a lot of float time.

>>60577902
msi x370 sli+ or something.
Needed the x370 for crossfire rx480 and hopefully soon crossfire vega.

>>60577889
140-160 tdp probably maybe 200 that monster of 48c

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>>60577349
hohohoh we found a real fuckin quite good goy over here

>>60577913
Don't buy shitty motherboards?

>>60577922
Interesting, because it says supported on their website

Did you try to fiddle around with the settings to reach 3200?

Hopefully they will fix it soon though

>>60577920
Just buy a 6700k

>>60577948
Well it's not great, but it does its job.
I don't plan to overclock shit, because that's what killed my previous config.

>>60577958
you should have bought the asrock taichi..

its currently the best am4 mobo so far...

while asus on the other hand is intel x99 kind of shit

>>60577952
Yeah, I tried ludicrously high latencies to no avail.
I think some timings are missing from the bios or some shit.
well 2933Mhz isn't too bad, and what most people get from what I've read.
MB are starting to pump out agesa 1.0.0.6 out there, and it seems to help.
Not happened yet for my MB.

>>60577970
I was looking for a relatively cheap replacement for my dead intel.
So I jewed on the MB.
It's ok though. I get less usb/sata ports, but it does what I want it to.

>>60577349
>blatant intelshills don't get banned
Really makes you think.

I hope zen2 is what sandy bridge was to nehalem.

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>>60577349
Fine, fine FINE I guess you all insist on doing the same dance again.

>>60577970
Lol is funny because their website says only 1 3200 g.skill kit is supported, probably the worst out of them all, now either msi is BSing with their list or the guy didn't update his bios

Not to mention its not such an upgrade for the money

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>>60577464
The 7700k is only better if the ONLY thing you care about is playing old DX11 games at 1080p at 120+hz

>>60578054
Oh yeah, that guy that got 3200 Memory working on release, while nobody else managed to do so.

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>>60577729
>$490 1800x beats $1,000 6900k in every metric
It more than kinda threatens Intel's prosumer market.

>>60577957
Install Gentoo

>>60577912
I just disproved your baseless claim

>>60577835
No, games just benefit immensely for low latency for memory access.

Tasks which don't have to react immediately to user input perform well on Ryzen, sure.

But it's not a gaming CPU, unless you're willing to make compromises and need some workstation grunt as well.

Cheaper Ryzens are okay for budget rigs as well.

Sadly both brands having ups and downs depending on use has led to shit-flinging instead of something more constructive. Oh well.

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>>60577818

>>60577970
>Reddit spacing...

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>>60578108

>>60578082
Well the 1800x is still weak because pcie lanes.
It can be a big deal depending on your usage.
What really matters is intel's response.
Is it a new platform yet again?
How is it priced against the competition?
I'd say Intel has to pull a 8 core cpu@4Ghz for 600-650$, without exploding TDP.
I don't really see how they'd do that unless they split their cores like AMD did.

>>60578108
So that's why the i5s are obsolete.

>>60578147
>I don't really see how they'd do that unless they split their cores like AMD did
Just Wait™ for Intel's new architecture in 2021 lol

>>60578147
If you want more PCIe lanes you can wait for the Threadripper launch, as it should be priced competitively with the 6900k while offering more I/O and far more computing power.

>>60578108
It's too early to give an overall verdict on gaming on Ryzen, as DX12 performance cannot be fairly evaluated yet. Nvidia's DX12 drivers have conclusively been shown to bottleneck Ryzen CPUs so until Vega is released we cannot have a fair picture of how Ryzen will perform in DX12 gaming without a driver bottleneck.

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>>60572298
>>60577868
>>60577845
>>60577975
Cheap Samsung E-die at 2133mhz can run at 3866 CL12.
Just run them at 3200mhz CL14 and you're good to go.

>>60578127
>1800x has higher clock ram than the 7700k

You dirty dog

>>60578204
Well it can on an intel ship.
Ryzen is limited because of it's hyperfabric or whatever running at half the memory clock.

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>>60578145
So should I just link this and exit slamming the door, convinced that I won the argument?

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>>60578259

Loving my 1700x, upgraded from a phenom ii 830 x4 because it was bottlenecking FL studio really hard

>>60578240
Uh, there is a 7700k at 4.6ghz in that benchmark.

>>60572298
Better value for the midrange systems.

R5 1600 or 1500 better than intel counterparts for less cost.

R5 stuff has been out a month or so at least and motherboards are working out most of the bugs with RAM modules. More optimization of software for ryzen expected, and even with that it performs better or within 5% of the intel on gaming. Far better on tasks benefiting from more threads.

Vidya gaems will utilize more parallelism, at the very least as a bonus feature for CPUs that can benefit from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpmK0zu4Mts

Ryzen CPUs also have smoother frame rates than the intels that can get bogged down with only 4 threads, this leads to higher minimum frame rates on Ryzen systems--smoother gaming.

>>60578259
Gee, I wonder if that benchmark falls within the narrow parameters where a 7700k is better?

Is it an old DX11 game being played at 1080p or less at 120hz or more? Then yes, the 7700k is better at it. Ryzen is better in large majority of other use cases.

>>60578245
But you can just run them at 3200 CL14?

If it can do 3866 CL12, it'd surely be able to run at much lower spec.

>>60578279
>7700k at 4.6ghz
No goy, you must use only delidded golden samples at 5.1GHz for proper benchmarking.

>>60578307
lmao fucking CS:GO as a benchmark

>>60578259
damn important graph you have there goy, you need 484 FPS on an ancient old piece of shit game, 309 is not enough, no no, better get that advantage to adequately fight with the russian basement dwellers right goy?

>>60577975
2666 is the golden spot for ram speed anyway

>>60578309
No I can't. For now.
Hoping next bios update will introduce more timings options, and unlink hyperfabric from memory speed.

ITT: All the i5 fags cry "muh 3% single core performance gaaaains!"

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>>60578323
DELID DIS

>>60578200
Dait for Wrivers™
Bait for WIOS updates™

>>60578066
3200 works for lots of people dude

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>>60578366
Here is one of four independent tests showing that Nvidia's DX12 drivers bottleneck Ryzen CPUs

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>>60578366
>>60578393
Second of four

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>>60578366
>>60578399
Third of four

>>60578129
its sad really that such a shit way of spacing get brainwashed into your head..
fucking hell indeed is caner

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>>60578366
>>60578404
Fourth of four.

>>60578381
What can I say, it just doesn't work for me.
I may boil down to silicon lottery too, if hyperfabric is involved.

Does IOMMU work now?

Wendell mentioned the IOMMU groupings were fucked up so you couldn't decouple your graphics card from the other stuff to use it in a VM.

Any benches of the stock 1600 or 1700 paired with an rx580?

Reviews seem to either combine the AMD processors with the 1080ti or the GPU with a i7 7700k overclocked.

>>60578419
It's in the works. and works in the lab.
Heard it from an amd stream thing the other day.
Let's be clear, amd released this stuff while it wasn't ready. But what choice did they have?

>>60578447
Here 1600 and rx480 vs intel and nvidia

>>60578147
24 pcie lanes from the cpu plus 8 more depending on the mobo is weak? those 8 more lanes on intel(on which i might add its depending on the cpu ONLY wikipedia org/wiki/LGA_2011#Desktop_.28Sandy_Bridge-E.2FIvy_Bridge-E.2FHaswell-E.2FBroadwell-E.29 ) is going to provide you insane perf? into what?

the i9s on sisoft sandra are showing 175watt tdp...overclock net/t/1630180/rumor-skylake-x-core-i9-lineup-and-specifications/200

lower cache 2 more cores almost 100 watts more than 1800x (100 watts + than 1700) and only 200 mhz more boost clock...

this is literally fx95xx kind of tdp funny how times changed now intel gets to be the space heater

>>60578452
Well I haven't put any money down on Ryzen yet so I don't really mind it but I probably wont be buying Ryzen until they work out the problems with the chipset.

>>60578259
I think /g/'s /v/isitors need to Define a few categories (gaming/workstation/internet machine) and define what Better means in each category.

because we already know most people are playing at 60fps 1080p. most current gen cpus are absolute overkill.

If high refresh rate gaming is important to you, Intel.
if consistent frame rates at 60fps above 1080p, Ryzen
if workstation, Ryzen.
Bang for your buck gaming, Ryzen.
internet machine, literally anything in the last 10 years.

altho if we do this we cant have Intel/amd/nvidia is finished bankrupt threads.

>>60574569
Sauce of wallpaper, pretty please ?

Ryzen is basically the best processor you can buy in each price range. Intel manages to be competitive only at the highest end buy they still lose at multi-threaded tasks and they're also less power efficient.

>>60578532
Well, you know, prosumer stuff.
Like having 4 Quadro cards for compute and/or a 4k capture device + needs more storage so SAS controler card.

>>60577970
>>60577975
Is this still widespread? I got corsair lpx 3200 running at the stated latencies with 1.3 volts without an issue this month on my asrock 350m pro4. I have yet to try and push lower latencies but the recommend voltage for those settings was 1.35v on the dimms

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>>60577309
>>60577349

>>60577844
Kekd

>>60572298

6900k performance for 1/3rd of the price

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>>60579055
More like i5 2500k performamce for 10 times the price

>>60579075
More like cherrypicked benchmarks for whatever price intel pays you

Who buys a 6900k for only games?

Faster winzips is all that matters.

>>60579091
At least amd's $600 flagship beats an i3 in games...oh wait>>60579075

>>60579120
I play at 4K, so I think I could plug a Core 2 duo in there and have the same framerate.

>>60577818
>Base clock 7700k outperforms Ryzen already.
yeah, in max frame time.

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>>60579075
>IMG_xxx
>day one benchmark

Intel shill beyond desperate

>>60579120
>max framerate counts, ignore the lows! you care more about the fps counter than perceivable lags, right?

>>60577752
I had the same experience with my i7-920. New architecuture launches aren't perfect. The situation has improved greatly, there has already been multiple updates to allow more types of RAM.

>>60579225
Even the 10 year old i5 has low above 92 fps, nice try though shitskin

>>60579315
62*

>>60579310
Jesus, get a Westmere already.

>>60576786
Disgusting.

>>60579336
This was years ago back when i7-920 was brand new. I've been on an i7-2600K for 3 years.

>>60578447
The benchmarks are done like that because they want to leave the differences to the CPUs or GPUs.
If you ran a serious of CPUs with a 580, and all the CPUs have an average fps of 58, this tells you NOTHING about any of the CPUs.
This 'CPU benchmark' tells you that the 580 tops at 58fps, and nothing about the CPUs.
Same thing in reverse for GPUs. You get the most information.

Stop being stupid.
Check out the 1600 benchmarks, see how that performs, then check out the 580 benchmarks and see how that performs.
For example, if the 580 gets a 58fps average and the 1600 gets a 54fps average, should expect to get 54fps if you pair them together.
Dimwit.

>>60579075
>GN
ha ha ha ha

>>60579355
whats new? everyone knows this about india

>>60579394
That game was patched to run better on Ryzen months ago, too. https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/247141-total-war-warhammer-will-also-receive-ryzen-patch

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>>60578447
>>60578469

>>60579437
>gpu bottleneck

Try again

>>60579120
My i5 gets a higher max framerate than any ryzen in BF1, but the average and especially the min are shit in comparison and all my cores are hitting 90%

>>60579458
So a 10 year old i5 still beats any ryzen, nice

>>60579475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
No it does not.

>>60579457
More like shit cpu
Stutterfire is bad in both amd and Nvidia

>>60577464
I wonder how in the flying fuck the i7 quad cores became so popular. You must be retarded to buy a $330+ quad core in $CURRENT_YEAR, a 1600 is such a good value I almost regret getting the 1700.

>>60577920
>>60577877
you do realize it was a joke, intel is shit

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>>60579516
Games need max 4 really strong cores rather than 4 6 or 8 really slow ones like those on amd

>>60578621
who on their right mind will spend so much money on 4 quadro gpu and buy broadwell or r7s? they will bottleneck the shit out of the cards...

you either go for a dual cpu system or full on xeons/naples
and given how many lanes naples will provide that argument is invalid

also pretty sure any decent human being that wanna capture any shit with a decent bitrate wont buy nvidia instead they can sell all of the quadros buy 2 vega because fuck you nvidia buy a mura ipx and save him self from the trouble....

>>60579582
Vega is a piece of shit that will do at most same or worse than a gtx 1080, mark my words

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>>60577349
Kaby Lake, z270 board, and Intel's Optane shit all over Ryzen.

>>60579595
if the timespy graphics score are an indication you gonna eat your words
mark my words

>>60579516
It's thanks to Ryzen's release
I shit you not, before Ryzen everyone was saying "you're gonna game? Go for an i5", and every reviewer benchmarking CPUs would use a ten core 6960x or whatever it was. Then Ryzen releases, benchmark show the 7700k in the lead, and all the retards pick it up because "i want the best gaming CPU =)" when they all have a 60hz screen regardless. And naturally from that point, reviewers started benchmarking GPUs with a 7700k instead.

>>60577349
This is the truth that /g/ doesn't want to hear because they're counter-culture nerds that want le underdog to win even though AMD is a corporation that doesn't care about them.

>>60579509
optimization is coming anyway though

>>60579621
This. Amd took a shit on the head on these niggers who bought their inferior chips. They don't understand amd is a corpooration, not their friend

>>60579562
I really like far cry primal, i easily think its the best in the series, that part where the shaman is like "UGA BOOGA *flings shit at you*" really got me, im going to truly remember that until the day i die, i really pity the AMDrones that cant experience this superior gaming experience.

>>60579457
If I were you I'd buy a ryzen with my intel shill money.

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>>60579603
>this entire post

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The rundown is amd win

>>60572298
all of us will give you a rundown at the same time, but it will be not so quick

>>60579582
Well if you own your own business in video stuff, you don't have the means of a real studio.
So budget is a thing.
Vega may be the best thing to happen to them in a while, although I'm starting to question if they're going to jew us on fp16 performance on gaming cards by driver like NoVideo.

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>>60579673
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60579603
> Intel's Optane
> Razer Kraken
Fanboy retard.

>>60579677
Vega is a piece of shit. Their new HBM has lower bandwidth than the GDDR5X. It will be at most as good as a 1 year old mid range gtx 1080, mark my words

>>60579603
Did you fall for the optane meme?
Just buy a ssd. it's even faster.

>>60579709
Because HBM worked so great for fury

>>60579677
having a dedicated solution for capture that costs less than a single quadro is the way to go..

having 4 quadros to capture shit is just....well i rather buy some new i9s without a watercool to isis to use it as a thermobaric bomb

>>60579673
3.8 ghz. You're stretching that lie, aren't you, Timmy?

>>60579671
>>60579694
Poor shitskins detected

>>60579714
>optane
Seagate did SSD cacheing like 10 years ago, what an original idea intel, i hope intel collapses under its own weight soon

>>60579709
hbm2 has less bandwidth that gddr5x?
did you smoke concrete or weed before you posted that technologycally illiterate post?

>>60579724
i have headphones that are more expensive then your entire housefire build, you're just a dumbass who cant manage money responsibly

>>60579709
Yes, that's what I'm expecting.
The only real question for me is the price and if fp16 is locked for professional cards.
I'm thinking of buying 2, which should grant me about 50 Tflops fp16.
Compared with about 12 on my rx480 crossfire.

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>>60579733
Not gonna happen when their $20 Pentium has higher single core performance than a $600 Ryzen

>>60579709
get lost pajeet

>>60579720
the 1800x can boost to 4.1 across all cores, a overclock of 4.2 is sometimes possible, again get lost pajeet

>>60579750
I don't think they'll lock down fp16. They've never done so before, and they're not intel or nvidia.
Besides, who could say no to all those cryptomining tards?

>>60579774
you can do better
post that shitty price per fps that pcgamer did

>>60579720
What lie anon ?

>>60579774
this ain't about ryzen, pajeet, this is about how a multibillion dollar corporation stole a decade old idea from seagate

>>60579788
why tards? i had 10 btc since 2012 and from my view point it will just keep going and going... currenty on 2400$...
you go 10btc->euro
euro->xau
wait for the gold to boom
instal xau->btc
and then back to btc->euro..

>>60579740
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-radeon-pro-vega-ssg-detailed/

>AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition Air and Liquid Cooled Models Pictured and Detailed – 4096 SPs, 16 GB HBM2 With 480 GB/s Bandwidth, 13 TFLOPs Compute, Arriving in June

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

>Memory Bandwidth 484 (GB/sec)

There you go poojet, vega is a piece of poo, your wait was in vain.

>>60579788
We'll see.
I guess the other argument for professional cards is ECC memory. But I'm not even sure HBM modules do that.
Kind of a pain running your render for the night and just discover it fucked up.

>>60578621
I'm not sure what kind of prosumer can afford 4 quadro cards.

>>60579872
Someone who's not an indian like you.

>>60579621
>>60579645
For the time being AMD has the edge in performance for cost on midrange systems, considerably.

There is no fanboyism that makes people buy Ryzens, but they are, in large numbers.

So IMG_XXX spammer. intel shill ? Nvidia shill ? or just retarded fanboy

>>60579647
>at 96 FPS
>can't experience

what? are you a robot or something?

>people actually use gaming benchmarks for R7 discussion

First of all those CPUs weren't even marketed for gaming, they do gaming fine but if you buy one for gaming you're fucking retarded

Second of all, people actually forget how much important the software side is. If games were designed with the thought of multithreading enabled for so many cores you wouldn't see 7700k beating 1800x.

Now would that be worth it in terms of development cost? Fuck no, but the comparison is retarded to begin with.

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>>60579895
ryzen has terrible value actually

>>60579895
>There is no fanboyism

Yeah, people bought Bulldozer because the performance spoke for itself LMAO

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>>60579921
Go away IMG_xxxx

>>60579871
Who cares, pooga is already worse than a 1 year old nvidia card>>60579860

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>>60579860
you really dont know shit about hbm do you know

gddr5x cant even compete with hbm http://www.anandtech.com/show/9883/gddr5x-standard-jedec-new-gpu-memory-14-gbps

>>60579921
Intel shills out in force I see.

>>60579562
This game is a broken buggy mess that just happens to run poorly on Ryzen, and they never bothered patching it.
>>60579774
This website is a joke, nobody takes anything posted on it seriously.

>>60579965
Are you braindead? Look at the numbers you dumb pajeet, gddr5x already has higher bandwidth than amd's hbm2

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>>60579914
I genuinely think game engines will use more threads in 2017+, for fucks sake C++ has threading features in it now.

Having more than 4 cores already gives Ryzen the advantage in FPS lows because it doesn't get maxed out when 4 cores are utilized 100%

watch this and tell me 4 cores is a good idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpmK0zu4Mts

>>60579908
no im just indian

>>60579953
if consumer card do fp16 at double rate like advertised, it will fucking crush everything in compute that's ever happened.
It's pretty handy in deep learning stuff for early generations.

>>60579603
>Optane
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA http://www.storagereview.com/intel_optane_memory_review

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>>60579976
>arguing with img_xxxx

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>>60579976
>IT'S GAMES FAULT
>IT'S WINDOWS'S FAULT
>IT'S ENGINE'S FAULT
>IT'S NVIDIA'S FAULT
>IT'S INTEL'S FAULT
>IT'S RAM'S FAULT
>IT'S REVIEWERS FAULT

>>60579982
it has 4k bit width with a total of 1tb/s bandwidth idiot

>>60580010
>uses the same canned responses every fucking day
>uses the same cherry picks every day
when are you going to take the smith and wesson retirement plan pajeet?

>>60580013
Amd says otherwise>>60579860

>>60580010
We know you're the exact same mentally damaged faggot in every thread for the past 3 fucking months. Your parents need to take away your potato PC.

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>>60580021
>wccf
>valid source

>>60580010
#TeamRed INCINERATED

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>>60580030
>IT'S A CONSPIRACY

>>60579989
2-3 years should be enough, mostly because all the idiots who make triple a games do it through engines, and the actual smart people who make those need time to optimize them

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>>60580051
>>60580010
Did AMD touch you at night or something?

>>60580010
Kek

so wccft says the truth
hynix the company that actually makes the hbm2 LIES
whats next nvidiots? gonna claim amd melted the steel beams?

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>>60580051
(you)

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>>60580082
FAKE NEWS

>>60580082
Wow, have you ever tried and program a 3D application?

>>60580100
Fake benchmark

>>60580106
>have you ever tried and
>tried and

Back to 3rd English class with you nigger

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>>60580106
NO I JUST LIKE VIDYA GAYMES

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>>60580109
>ITS FAKE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME REEEEE

>>60580082
yeah amd is lower bla bla..

find me a 7700k that can do this without creating a china syndrome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyCXBfblYPQ

>>60580123
Yep, that makes my point irrelevant for sure.

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>>60580123
>>60580109
samefag

>>60580082
Lol yeah if you get a shit model of course, 4GHz is enough for your clock speeds not to mention the fact that ryzen users usually get higher clocked memory

>>60580082
dumb shitposter

>>60580137
Why should I take a dumb nigger who can't spell English correctly seriously?

>>60580173
remember to report for /pol/ shit outside of /pol/

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>he fell for the ryzen meme

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>>60580183
HOLY KEK

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>>60580183
>>60580173
samefag to new and dumb to bypass the time lock

>>60580183
holy shit LMAO

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>>60580183
>>60580191
>>60580173
S A M E
F A G

>>60580183
HAHAHAHAHA

>>60580173
So did you try and program a 3D application once?
did you try making it multi-threaded?
It's getting better, but also fucking annoying.
Hence why most shit games we see are Unity garbage that can't even 2 threads at all.
Game development has become fucking science.

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>>60580201
>>60580191
>>60580183
>samefagging this hard

>>60580212
Have I tried what? Sorry I don't understand nigger, try formulating the sentence again, in English this time.

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>>60580210
>>60580201
>>60580191
>>60580183
samefag to the extreme

>>60580183
>pissmark

>>60580243
See>>60580010

>>60580227
Fuck you nigger.
If you can't understand that, I wonder if you can even count to 10 without hiccups.

>>60579774
An that same CPU also has higher singlecore than a $1600 or $1100 CPU
Your point being?

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>>60580255
>redirecting to your own posts

>>60580264
>and the Pentium has higher single core performance than i7s too
No, just higher than Ryzen

>>60580264
INTEL BTFO BY INTEL HOW WILL INTEL EVER RECOVER

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>>60572298

No issues at all! Love my Ryzen so far!

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>>60580282
>single core is all that matters

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>>60580294
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60580294
>1080ti
>poozen

You are retarded

>>60580324
>img_xxxx

You are retarded

>>60572298
bulldozer 2.0, you should never trust pajeet company or pajeet shills posting there

>>60580324
mad poorfag pajeet

>>60580324
Video/Audio production. Only tards use PC only for games. Get real. Games will utilize more cores in the future.

>>60580338
>>60580324
samefag

>>60580380
>poster count didn't go up
or you could just get banned again, img_xxxx

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>>60580294
Cant wait to ditch this shit for threadripper

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>>60579075

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>>60579120

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>>60579315

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>>60579390

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>>60579562

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>>60580614
>>60580606
>>60580595
>>60580589

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>>60579774

>>60579953
Source: My ass

>>60572603
/thread

>>60572633
1800x should have been marketed directly against the 6800k... There would be no complaints from gamers, or the people who need PCI lanes.

>>60577349
Hush. Thread was made to make ryzen look good. Thanks for fucking it up.

>>60580614
Intel sucks, them lows.

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>>60577349
Meanwhile, when you compare the 1800X to it's actual competition in the CPU marketplace ..

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>>60581291
FUCK YUOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60581336
Jar Jar ?

>>60581336
>just b urself xDDDDDDD

>>60581291
intel shills reckd

>>60580614
this fucking destroys intel too btw

AMD shall henceforth be known as "SMOOTH SMOOTH!"

Ryzen marketing:
1800x/3200mhz ram vs gimped 6900k /2133mhz ram in price, and introduced gpu bottlenecks to gaming benchmarks

1800x/3200mhz ram vs gimped 7700k/2133mhz ram in multicore software

What went wrong?

>>60572298
>Core i's bow to the Ryzens
>in contact with shit wrecker jim keller
>rumoured to possess machine learning abilities
>control cyberspace with an iron fist
>own caches and databanks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient X86 blood line
>will vitualize the first cities on Mars (Raisingrad will be be the first city)
>own basically every code editing research facility on Earth
>first designer mobile chips will be Baby Ryzen
>both ccx said to have 200+ latency
>ancient pajeet scriptures tell of two core complexes who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
You likely have Amadabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Shitwrecker known by Jim and Keller, forwarding the word of God to Linus Tech Tips
>increased FPS in under a week
>Nation states entrust their data reserves with the twins. There's no scraped data in Langley, only Ft. Mary Su
>The ryzens are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base clock.
In reality, they are timeless cpus existing in all points of time and space from the PDP-1 to the end of the universe
The Ryzens will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

>>60579582
>naples
Epyc. Say it. Say Epyc nigga.

>>60577349
t. BE.awesome

So should I wait for Zen 2 to come out or just go with Ryzen. Also which Ryzen to get, if it applies.

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>2017
>buying a quadcore

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>>60581709
>Amadabots
Yes plz.

>>60582006
Zen 2 will work with existing AM4 motherboards, so if you want to take the plunge now, you can just upgrade later. I'd suggest 1600 if you want to OC or 1600X if you don't want to OC or hate playing the silicon lottery.

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>>60581522

>>60582061
Now this makes me happy, realizing you can run a VM and still have cores for gaming.

>>60582058
Thanks a lot.

>>60582061
6950x 40lanes. 1800x 24lanes.

A more respectable set of benchmarks would be r7-1800x vs i7-6800k as this world be attracting the same target market.

>>60580923
kek, those dips.

>>60582175
>Ryzen has less lanes
>is still better

>>60582175
So in other words, there's literally no reason to buy 6950x unless you need the extra PCI-e lanes?

>>60582061
Avg. 99%. Until you find out that the 1800x was paired with the fastest ram it could handle, and running at 4ghz. while the Intel i7 was running at base with the slowest ram possible.

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>>60580338
>you should never trust pajeet company or pajeet shills posting there
Correct.

>>60582240
<citation needed>

>>60582240
[Citation Needed]

>>60582212
Yes there's no reason to buy a 6950x unless you need the lanes with 10 cores.

>>60582208
[citation needed]

4ghz ryzen/3200mhz ram is better than stock clocked i7 turbo off paired with 64gb of 2133ghz ram.

>>60582240
Source: My ass.

>>60582342
*at certain tasks

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>>60582342
Is this your fun new little game, retard shill? Just fucking kill yourself already.

>>60582175
Don't worry, Threadripper will be along shortly to annihilate the 6950X in literally every metric.

>>60582361
source: bench config

>>60582375
Prove it. Then prove that faster ram makes a statistically significant difference on Intel's architecture.

>>60582372
But 7920X

>>60582375
Actual source: http://semiaccurate.com/2017/03/02/amds-ryzen-7-1800x-ryzen-review/

Oops, they don't mention gimping any of the Intel platforms. Guess you're a stupid cocksucker.

>>60582372
Future paper AMD is way better than old CPU. Shocking.

It would be disappointing if it wasn't more powerful at date of release then all existing CPUs.

>>60582388
Will be just 6950x with slightly higher clocks.

>>60582382
>prove it

Are you saying bench configs for your posted benches don't exist?

>>60582396
You should post bench config.

>>60582452
>This chip is a 10 core monster with a base clock of 3 Ghz, boost of 3.5 Ghz, and 25 MBs of L3 cache. It’s aided in today benchmarks by a recent performance addition from Intel: Turbo Boost Max Technology which enables the i7-6950X to boost well above its nominal boost clock using a combination of more responsive hardware and software performance profiling. The i7-6950X is Broadwell-E in its full glory.

Sure sounds like they gimped it to me.

>>60582460
Where's the hardware configuration for both systems during testing.

>>60582493
Why don't you contact the guy and ask him

>>60582514
So you have no proof of gimping and are just desperately bullshitting to save Intel some face? Thanks for the confirmation fampai.

>>60582514
It's your benchmark. Why leave out little tidbits that would potentially reinforce how awesome the ryzen are?

>>60582573
When 2 amd shills confuse each other of being Intel shills.

>>60577464
>People said the same things in the past

You mean like when we went from single core to duo or duo to quad? It's only been a decade since the last time they added more cores.... and you still they this is way way off in the future?

This thread has been compromised.

Make another pro amd thread stat.

>>60582434
Oh, you mean you were making evidence free shitposts? What. A. Surprise.

>>60582714
By that you mean it's impossible to have any discussion of Ryzen without IMG_xxxx showing up and shitting it up with his copypasted cherrypicked GAYMAN benchmarks, right?

>>60582714
Go fuck yourself. You and your friends literally make HUNDREDS of anti-AMD shitposts a day on this board, and when people get annoyed and post a wealth of actual evidence to counter the bait and shitposts, suddenly they are the shills.

>>60582739
It's not just him. "Wait(TM) for Vega" threads only exist to make evidence free shitposts about AMD. Ever notice how early into threads about Vega or Ryzen there are all those crying Wojaks and "HURR RYZEN A SHIT" evidence free baitposts? Its clearly more than one person.