Sublime Text

>>60557470
>Tfw I got this free thanks to the cia

>>60557470
It's less hipster than Atom but also less useful. Still I really like it because it feels more like text editor than a IDE which really should be all a developer needs.

>>60557470
I'm not quite le hacker /g/uru, I like it but Notepad options locked behind editing .cfg files is too fucking tryhard. Just give me an options or settings screen like any normal application.

I switched from NP++ to ST at work recently. I'm having fun just watching tutorials and learning about all the new functionality.

It does kinda suck that ST + FTP plugin is $100, but it's probably worth it. I've been just putting up with the nag screens so far, but I might ask my manager if we can buy it using company money.

ST package thread? ST package thread
AceJump
Emmet
ExpandRegion
MarkAndMove
SelectUntil
AlignTab

neovim

>>60557470
>literal botnet
>best

>>60557491
How easy is it to install atom in GNU/linux?

I'm using ubuntu

>>60557470
meme, botnet

>>60558693

wget https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/download/v1.17.0/atom-amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i atom.deb

>>60557470
it is free as well thanks to the CIA

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>>60558843
Thanks anon

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the best editor out there
anything that wants to make its mark needs to reakuze that it will be compared against it
and if you are slow and clumpy like atom you will be at serious disadvantage

I just wish the creator would at some point said - fuck it, I am rich enough
cuz he must be millionaire at this point
and would opensource it while announcing sublimetext4
with huge framework overwork for ease of maintainability, extensability

that would make me really happy
but hey, there are always sublimetext keys floating out there, so no biggy
biggy is what if the creator is hit by a bus, or gets bored of working on it
and releases, fixes, new features are reduced to pittance per year...

>notepad++
>codeblocks
Sublime text is for code artisans and nu-males too pleb to use vim or the above.
Literally no one serious about programming ever uses this crap.

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>>60559001
code artisans sound like a good thing m8

>>60558941
Can you do that in vim?

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>>60559001
>Literally no one serious about programming ever uses this crap.
>getting 25% in stackoverflow developers survey
all right then

>>60559102
someone said yes when i posted it in the past

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>>60559118
>Web developers
>Sublime Text
Surprise surprise! It's used by the people who think fizzbuzz is hard.

>>60559118
>stackoverflow
It's a website for fizzbuzz pajeets. Think the population of /g/, but a little more normalfag and nu-males.
Try actually working for once, and you'll see what I mean
And no, webdev isn't remotely related to programming

>>60559134
I see. By tradition I will say the same the next time someone asks.

>>60557470
What gui toolkit does sublime use?

It works on all 3 major desktop OS and it's consistent and fast and (unlike shitty atom, vscode) it doesn't come bundled with fucking chrome.

>>60559199
he uses custom UI toolkit
not some premade Qt or GTK
thats why you get that performance on all desktop platforms

>>60559180
but you know how vim people are
they say everything can be done, because you can code it in
also they tell you they have multicursors but you wont actually meet someone with them
cuz you can have something, and it still being awkward to use

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>>60559135
>>60559152
how about pythonists?
or CIA hacking developers
or developers at mozilla and google who make desktop applications?
are we still at the claim that: Literally no one serious about programming ever uses this crap.

but its funny aspies going REEEEEEEEEEEE about people using editor
go to your mommies for tendies ;)

>>60559247
>python

fucken masterrace y'all

>>60559224
This is based

>>60559102
>>60559134
>>60559180

cmap w!! w !sudo tee > /dev/null %

Add this to your vimrc and and when you type :w!! it will be replaced by the above command
For an explanation
>https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2600783/how-does-the-vim-write-with-sudo-trick-work

>>60559232
Trying to emulate sublime, an ide, or whatever in vim is stupid
Vim is good for it's unique features
If you don't like those features or you prefer the unique features of another editor switch to it and save your self the trouble

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Step aside, best editor coming through.

lets the in betweener
>>60559299

to all sublime users
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_9535650.html

depending on how casual you are. emacs can do whatever sublime can + more

>>60559335
Thanks anon, just activated mine.

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>>60559298
>>60559300

What's the general census on VS Code tho?
I've been using it for a little bit and it dosen't seem half bad. I used atom for a bit but the shitty performance made me swap.

>>60559298
>>60559300
I would've used VS Code instead of Sublime, but I work in Ruby, and Ruby is shit in VS code.

VS Code is best editor. It's open source too unlike Sublime Text.

>>60560678
Install a Ruby plugin.

>>60561402
I did - it's still shit.
Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but Sublime is really good in recognizing languages. For example - HTML + Ruby snippets.
When it doesn't understand what you're opening (for example, Sublime 2 doesn't know .scss files are CSS) - it allows you to switch syntax manually.
I want this functionality in VS code, that's about it.

>>60561510
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30775551/how-to-manually-set-language-for-syntax-highlighting-in-visual-studio-code

>>60558941
Are these supposed to be song lyrics?

>>60561568
I'll try it out once again when I'm back to coding then. Thanks for the insight.

>>60557470
>leaking memory out its asshole like it has salmonella

Visual Studio Code is best editor you fags.

I like PHPstorm cracked

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Best editor coming through

>>60557470
How is sublime better than kate?

>>60559152
>Try actually working for once, and you'll see what I mean
lol, says the neet neckbeard who thinks stackoverflow is "fizzbuzz pajeets".
/g/ is the complete bottom rung of the software engineering world: entitled little shits who think they're hot shit because they use vim, but have no real marketable skills.

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>>60557490
t-thanks, CIA niggers

>>60557470
>best

Nice bait mate.

Everyone knows Atom is the only decent editor out there.

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>>60562536
>Atom
AHEM

>>60562638
>Visual Studio

epic bait xD!!!

>>60562708
Whats wrong with Visual Studio Code

>>60562731
Everything.

>>60562749
Elaborate please?

>>60561716
Is that specific to one OS? I've had 5 tabs open for hours and it's using only 20MB.

>>60562708
are you retarded?

>>60558693
Ez

>>60557470
What are some necessary packages?

It's not the best, but one of the better ones.
>>60558461
Bloat, bloat, bloat, bloat and bloat?
>>60563596
NONE. It includes more than enough features

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>his editor has a package manager
>his editor has a terminal
>his editor has a directed compilation system
>his editor has it's own interpreted scripting language
>his editor is 95% written in said language and is only as fast as the interpreter for said domain specific language and is probably implemented in something slow like python

>>60557470
It has better syntax highlighting than VIM.

>>60564546
no it doesnt

>>60564113
This desu.
Just use textadept.

>>60564568
It does. Vim's C++ syntax highlighting is horrible compared to sublime's.

>>60564623
any editor worth a damn lets you customize syntax highlighting or add support for new languages through regex parsing

even nano has this feature

>>60564648
Did I look like I was talking about making my own syntax highlighting? I was talking about vim's defaults and the syntax modifications I've found. Nothing I've found works as well as sublime's.

>>60564546
>>60564568
>>60564623
>>60564648
>>60564678
How about some comparison screenshots to prove your point you autists?

>>60564706
https://www.nano-editor.org/screenshots.php

>>60557589
You can literally crack it in 10 minutes.

>>60557470
It's my favorite text editor. I'm a web developer, and most of us in my office use Sublime
The ones who don't seem to like Komodo

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what is this color scheme called?

>>60564831

Tranny Lords v3.0

>>60564808
>I'm a web developer
kys

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>>60564706

>>60564846
I would but my life is pretty rad desu

>>60564851
>true/false same color as numbers
>types same color as random words
I'd say both of them are equally shit.

>>60557470
Yes. It just works.

>>60564944
Are you complaining about the keyword highlighting patterns, or the color scheme of the terminal?

>>60557470
latex
kys fags
latex is supreme

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>>60565003
>he thinks latex is a editor

>>60564851
upload that source file somewhere so we can highlight it in a proper editor

>>60557470
>>60557491
>>60558693
>>60558941
>>60559232
>>60559298
>>60559300
>>60560678
>>60561389
>>60561510
>>60561856
>>60562536
>>60562638
>>60562708
Use vim faggots.

>>60565441
>having to switch modes if you want to do anything
no thanks i don't want to break my wrists

I could never get on with vim or emacs; I tend to use nano under Linux; Atom is slow; I used to love Tempus II; I really like Sublime and find it comfortable.

It's really a matter of personal preference.

>>60565530
vim and emacs predate arrow keys on the ANSI US keyboard, they were made for a different era of computing

>>60559247
>Pythonist
That's not a word, and those are the same webdev retards.

>>60558693
Install arch-based system.
yaourt -S atom
Done.

>>60565076
https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/blob/master/src/caffe/net.cpp

How does one get decent code completion for Perl in SublimeText? Nothing seems to work properly

>>60565562
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pythonist
it is a word
:^)

>>60558693
pacaur -S visual-studio-code

>>60565868
Perl is tricky as fuck because the language allows you to do really weird things
Can you show me an example of how ST handles it?

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>>60561389
Please avoid using the term "open" or "open source" as a substitute for "free software". Those terms refer to a different position based on different values. Free software is a political movement; open source is a development model. When alluding to the open source position, using its name is appropriate; but please do not use it to label us or our work--that leads people to think we share those views.

>>60558941
>scrolling to 19th line instead of 19G

jesus christ

>>60565914
well that's a dumb word

>>60566011
Well it doesn't do much at all. I installed Codecomplice hoping it would do a little more but nothing changed besides additional lag

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>>60566113
does it highlight anything at all?

If you ACTUALLY NEED syntax highlighting to write code, you don't actually know how to program.

i use pycharm

i just wish intellij ideavim wasn't so shit

i've really liked clion trial overall, but i've constantly ran into glitches even after carefully configuring all the ide/vim shortcuts

>>60566193
Well yeah of course. Syntax highlighting works for much less used languages

>>60566237
I like pretty colors. The only ones i get in life.

>>60566044
Fake post. You didn't interject.

>>60566249
Can you give an example of what doesn't work?

>>60566359
It does nothing besides introduce additional lag and status bar text. No additional code completion, just the same list of symbols I'd get without it

>>60557470
It's a good text editor, probably not the best though.
It's not an IDE

Why do you all hate IDEs?

IntelliJ is amazing.
Visual Studio (with Resharper) is amazing.
PyCharm is amazing.

Yes, text editors have their place, but NOT as an IDE replacement. NOT EVEN CLOSE

>>60566565
Why?
What do IDEs do better?

>>60566565
Can you walk me through a situation where I would be severely hindered by refusing to use an IDE instead of the component parts of an IDE as separate command line tools?

Do you even know how to program without an IDE?
Because you seem like one of those green play button babbies who went to school to learn Visual Studio™ and C#

>>60566594
1. Automatically replace a piece of old code (old for loops, with the newer foreach, or even method chaining.
2. Shows you when you don't actually use a variable
3. Tons of great plugins available for extra LINTing
4. Refactor options (go read Refactoring by Martin Fowler, it's usable for ANY language) like renaming variables, inlining methods, extracting methods, replacing types ALL AUTOMATICALLY.

Just a few examples.

>>60566638
>Do you even know how to program without an IDE?
I learned programming in C with Dev-CPP, in which you need to write all your code yourself (the most handholding was compiler integration: press a button and compile).

Jetbrains' Clion is clearly superior to it though. Extra checks to see if you accidentally cast an int to a byte typecast is fucking great, for one.

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>>60566681
>1. Automatically replace a piece of old code (old for loops, with the newer foreach, or even method chaining.

This seems trivial and almost invasive.

>2. Shows you when you don't actually use a variable
My compiler does this already, and it doesn't happen very often because I'm not retarded.

>3. Tons of great plugins available for extra LINTing
How fucking bad are you at syntax that you NEED several plugins to tell you where you fucked up?

>4. Refactor options (go read Refactoring by Martin Fowler, it's usable for ANY language) like renaming variables, inlining methods, extracting methods, replacing types ALL AUTOMATICALLY.

Maybe you should write good code the first time so you won't have to completely rewrite everything every time your requirements grow?

Sublime text is only for 1337 hax0rs.

>>60566681
Is this pasta or bait or both?

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how many java "devs" know how to compile java code WITHOUT eclipse?

>>60567007
Neither.

>>60566744
>This seems trivial and almost invasive.
Alright, I miswrote. You DO have to enact an action before this is done.

>My compiler does this already
Why wait until your compiler catches this? Why not catch it directly?

>How fucking bad are you at syntax
It's great for enforcing a standard. That's all. You don't NEED them. They're plugins for god's sake!

>Maybe you should write good code the first time
Are you one of those programming rockstars I've heard of? EVERYONE rewrites code. You never had any legacy code to fix or rewrite, have you?

>>60567074
You're not making any good arguments for using IDEs other than you're too uncomfortable programming without one.

>>60567097
IDEs make your life easier.

>>60567117
A good editor makes your life easier.
IDEs take a year to start up and mostly work on one platform only.

>>60567117
You haven't made a single argument explaining why.

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>>60557470
You should use PS Pad instead /g/uys

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>>60567142
>stacked toolbars

>>60567134
>1. Automatically replace a piece of old code (old for loops, with the newer foreach, or even method chaining.
>2. Shows you when you don't actually use a variable
>3. Tons of great plugins available for extra LINTing
>4. Refactor options (go read Refactoring by Martin Fowler, it's usable for ANY language) like renaming variables, inlining methods, extracting methods, replacing types ALL AUTOMATICALLY.
I just did, you double nigger! Not to mention that Jetbrains has a superior autocomplete where you only need to write a few letters of the function that are contained in the name, not the first part of the name.

>>60567170
All of those can be done from a capable editor without having to install a bloated slow shit IDE

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>>60567170
>superior autocomplete

And here we go!
The real reason you like IDEs is because you're too stupid to learn the standard library for your language so you only remember the first 3 letters.
You use a large library language that has implementations for everything and never write any substantial code on your own, all of your code is simply glue code for other people's libraries. You are a codemonkey.

You can stop replying now.

>>60567201
Which one, because I haven't found it yet.

>>60567213
>I'm superior because I can remember the entire Java library
Sure bud. Meanwhile I made a Business Rule Generator (with the UI built using Oracle's APEX) and am currently making an application to provide value to a football club by providing Data Analyses.

>>60559335
>https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_9535650.html
Wew, so subversive! Wew, like you couldn't get a license from a hundred other sources. Wew. Wew.

>>60562638
VS Code is amazing...but I still use Atom, reason being is that it is part of Microsofts grand plan of embrace,extend,extinguish plan
it is just that the pajeet in charge is multiple times more intelligent at not shouting out his evil plans in public like Ballmer did

>>60567606
>atom
>vscode
literally no difference, both are shit

>>60566681
>Automatically replace a piece of old code (old for loops, with the newer foreach, or even method chaining.
I don't ever use this when I'm using an IDE so I don't care
>Shows you when you don't actually use a variable
vscode can do this
>Tons of great plugins available for extra LINTing
vscode can do this
>Refactor options (go read Refactoring by Martin Fowler, it's usable for ANY language) like renaming variables, inlining methods, extracting methods, replacing types ALL AUTOMATICALLY
vscode can do this

>>60565441
>Use EVIL emacs faggots

yeah you are right!

>>60562323
>It's even more bloated than sublime text

>>60557470
If you're going with text editors why would you use this instead of vim or emacs or something I don't understand the benefit you gain from it. You can fully customize vim without dealing with the bloat that a program like this has.

>>60566681
Do you know what plugins in vim are?

>>60566681
>I can't write simple functions that do this kind of thing for me
~/.vimrc

>>60565482
You can't be that bad at using a keyboard

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If your IDE or editor requires you to use the mouse to do anything it's automatically shit

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>>60565482
>hit i for insert mode
>hit escape to leave insert mode
>this is hard for some people

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>>60568871
>>60568938
more like
>press i
>notice you are in the wrong spot to make your edit
>esc
>move cursor
>i
>type
>esc
>move
>i
how the fuck is this supposed to be efficient?

>>60568871
why is it vim users think people in other editors don't use the keyboard?
There is so much basic functionality that is missing from vim not even the shills here knows how to replicate it efficiently.
Vim is a meme and while it was decent a decade ago, it has been surpassed by other editors.

>>60569005
You can move with the arrow keys too...theres also keys like a and $ for append and movement. And o. There's a lot of options. You being bad at using a keyboard isn't vims fault.

>>60569154
I never said other editors don't use keyboards. Where did I say that? Just that using vim isn't intense on the wrists like the previous post said for some reason.

>>60568938
>paste something in vim.
>woups, wrong mode, only inserts some of the text as there was an 'a' or 'i' or something in the middle of the text.
>hit esc
>u
>i
>paste again
It is not about being hard to use, it is about consistency.
I want the computer to read my mind and do what I intend to do, not redo my steps because I don't keep track of my actions.

>>60568875
This.
I could never switch to vim because of this.
Fuck wasting time with the mouse, I am here to get shit done.

>>60569326
What? Having an a in the text doesn't change pasting. What are you even talking about? Have you even tried to use vim or are you too scared of thinking?

>>60569326
Vim doesn't require the mouse you idiot.

Fact:
As a programmer you don't need to type fast so using the arrow keys to move around is literally not a problem.

>>60569005
Ctrl-o puts you in normal mode for duration of one command only
also http://vim-jp.org/vimdoc-en/vimindex.html#ex-edit-index
you can use those while in insert mode

I don't do any of those because you almost always enter insert mode in the place you want after a bit of practice

>>60569154
Vim means not only the editor but also the text editing paradigm. I only use vim proper to edit config files but I'm still on vim mode when I'm using IntelliJ, VSCode or emacs.

>>60569547
It is because it's uncomfortable.

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>>60569584
>pressing these keys is fine
>pressing those keys is uncomfortable
t. vimfags

vscode > whatever you guys think

Unbeatable for C/C++, Golang, JavaScript.

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>>60569647
>not understanding the most basic of ergonomics
Yea.

>>60569691
>unbeatable
because....?

>>60569647
yes. moving your hand between the home row and arrow keys for 8 hours a day is uncomfortable. not doing it is not.

>>60569888
How do you cycle through previously entered commands in a terminal without arrow keys? Remember moving your hands off the meme row is bad!
Have to enter a bunch of numbers fast? Sorry numblock is not allowed, gotta keep those hands centered pal
Scrolling through a documentation? Sorry pgdn/up are off limits

>How do you cycle through previously entered commands in a terminal without arrow keys?
ctrl-p
>Have to enter a bunch of numbers fast?
number keys
>Scrolling through a documentation?
j, k, d, u

>>60569979
Foregoing the fact that things like web browsing do have options for vim-like commands (yes you can scroll with j and k), the idea that being inefficient in one aspect means you should always be inefficient is absolutely ridiculous.

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>>60569979
There's nothing wrong with using arrow keys, numpad or a mouse, but not when you're in the middle of writing text. Moving your hand to the numpad when you have to enter 20 numbers into a spreadsheet is ok.
Moving your hand to arrow keys or mouse just to move cursor before resuming writing again is retarded.

>>60570188
thought so too, kiddo
switched to emacs /w evil after >5 years of vim/tmux and there's no going back now unfortunately

>>60557470
>yfw when you used to use this when it first came out and it sucked

>>60559118
yeah 25% of stackoverflow users that know jackshit about programming.