/wt/ watch thread

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I'm unironically starting to believe transistorized balance wheel is superior to mechanical in all but seconds hand sweep.

>>60546752
this is not ok

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oh what do we have here

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>>60546789
srsly tho

>>60546835
pls stop

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>>60546851
Okay, now you're just being a fag.

>>60546752
What do you mean? I thought the cosmotrons were 36,000 bph

>>60546895
They are, but the way these work the beat rate of the hands is always halved compared to the balance. So the hi-beat Cosmotrons will have the second hand move like on a vintage low-end shitter, at 18000bph.

>>60546924
Do the seiko elnix movements work the same way? That seems like a very odd engineering choice.

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do you guys like citizens ecodrives

>>60546884
Something about electronic circuitry inside a solid steel case seems incredibly off to me.

Like transporting five lego blocks using a dump truck.

>>60546971
do you like diesel cars?
eco-drive is just their name for solar-powered watches. there are thousands of models.

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>>60546971

>>60546884
This is just really not ok. There's no real point for most people to have a watch in the first place. The fact that mechanical watches are intricate interesting objects is really my only excuse at this point. There is no reason for that fucking thing. Its not aesthetic and you are polluting this thread with your garbage

After more than a month of having my watch, Steinhart has finally emailed me. They said they can pop my movement into a new case for 80 euro.

>>60547127
you're mangled finger anon? damn

>>60547052
>There's no real point for most people to have a watch in the first place

Yeah you know other than the fact that they're infinitely more convenient than anything else for telling time.

>>60547143

You know it, my brother.

>>60547146
I wear a watch; I said "no real reason" which is true you do not need a watch and do not need to wear one... most people check their very accurate cellphones. Cars ovens computers phones cable boxes game systems etc all have clocks built in.

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>>60547127
>>60547164

>>60546116
Why these dog ugly lenses when you instead can make larger digits? Does it somehow appeal to a basic instinct in the Rolex buyers?

>>60547317
I don't get it either. It's really stupid and looks terrible.

>>60547317
>>60547346
The one thing about Rolex that always bothered me

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>>60546971
Yes.

>>60547127
What happened?
I'm new

>>60547499
He played shitter games, and won shitter prizes.

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Bracelet > strap

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>>60547499

A booboo.

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>>60547541
>sleeve under watch

>>60547585
Ah I see you're right, I'm a filthy lefty so it looked the other way around. Still not ok.

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>>60547572
It's a glove not a sleeve.

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>>60547585
>wearing gloves indoors

>>60547606
>>60547615
Try taking macro photos while moving the watch. You either spend more time cleaning the watch, or wear gloves.

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>>60547606
>I'm a filthy lefty
the left wrist is the best wrist, comrade

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>>60547629
Keep forgetting the pic.

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Got this for my birthday

>>60546835
What watch fits that movement?

>>60547677
Do they hate you?

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You had one job OP

>>60547164
>>60547143
Oh my god post those pictures again. I havent seen a gore thread in a long while

>>60547549
what straps are those?

>>60547570
How?
What?

>>60547677
god

>>60546116
I dislike Rolex but I'll be damned if the platinum Day-Date 40 isn't a gorgeous thing.

>>60547935

I was trying to pop the bezel off with a butter knife. Slipped and sliced my finger.

>>60547920
http://www.monkeyswag.com/straps/mks-nato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9nm1HfU2Y8

>>60548016

cheers

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>>60547536
Sometimes.

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>>60547677
>

what's a decent beater around $150?

tired of trying to not smash my wrist into stuff

>>60548502
Casio

>>60548502
mako II

Should I buy a Puck or a Seaforth.

Both come out to $900 after conversion

>>60548502
you can get a snk809 a nice sapphire from orion watches and an nh35 for under 150

>>60548602
>Puck
80 dollar watch movement plus a basic diver case for 675+ dollars.... fuck that

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>>60547751
Derby Swissonic.

>>60547052
You have terminal autism. Also you're fucking ignorant.

>>60546968
I believe most if not all transistorized balance wheel watches are like that. The reason being the power flow is reversed compared to a mechanical. On a mechanical power from the mainspring flows through the gear train to the balance wheel. On an electronic the coil drives the balance wheel directly and the balance wheel drives the gear train with a modified pallet fork, so it takes a complete oscillation for the geartrain to step once.

Are Hamilton automatics /g/ approved?

>>60548602
Get the Seaforth and then a Seiko SKX.

>>60547317
>when you instead can make larger digits
Not as long as 31 day long months exist.

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>>60547677
>Hey look mumsie, it's that watch anon won't shut up about. The "Bulova Accutron". We should get him one for his birthday since he loves them so much!
You dun goofed not hiding your power level.

>>60548663
I'm thinking Gilt dial with sapphire bezel

>>60548655
No.

>>60548602
>Seaforth
they both have sub 100 dollar movements

>>60548784

Watch noob here please red pill me why

I need some help /g. Am buying a watch for someone's birthday with a £300 budget. Needs to have a metal bracelet and will most likely be used for casual use though my friend is a faggot and would rather it look good than actually give a shit about the movement. Any recommendations? Extra points for it being a somewhat recognisable manufacturer.

>>60549055
SEIKO G757

>>60549095
Good luck finding one that isn't shit in that budget

I'm going to Japan in a few months, but I'm a college student and i can't justify a watch for myself right now more than $200. Any pointers on what JDM watch I could get?

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I'm absolutely in love with this 18 carat, rose gold TAG Heuer Carrera watch purchased from the beautiful city of Perth. Made with sapphire infused glass that only diamond can scratch, I've spoiled myself with this gorgeous timepiece. The calibre 16 movement has been crowned as the most successful automatic chronograph movement ever produced, completely handmade by man. It is also my very first day date watch and it will be interesting to see if it becomes an important feature that Will depend on over time. I hope you all enjoy this watch as much as I do.

>>60549281
nice try, this was a reddit post about half a year ago, though I think the text was different

>>60549281
>>60549308
nope, apparently this is the original text

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/5gkuev/tag_heuer_first_high_end_luxury_watch/#bottom-comments

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Not sure if that was a good idea, feels too expensive and nice for my everyday use... but damn it's fine.

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>>60549281
you can feel this guy was really butthurt, sad to see retards buy expensive stuff without doing the research. For that price he could have picked up some nice used watches

>>60549148
They're easy to fix.

>>60548655
they're fine yes

>>60549328
what are you timing?

>>60549339
How much is $6000 AUD? Can you buy a Rolex with that? If not why not fucking but a Rolex instead of a $6000 AUD fashion watch?

>>60549339

I doubt he was butthurt.

>>60549328

Dont drop it anon. My niece dropped mine (not the same watch but a tissot chronograph) and it screwed up the watch.
The service center gave me a quote that costs half as much as the watch.

>>60549414
Nothing, didn't buy it for the chronograph. A phone app would be better anyway.

>>60549429
Look at that last sentence, he pretty much says: "validate my shitty unrehearsed purchase or fuck off", the fact that he calls a Valjoux 7750 a "calibre 16" movement, which "has been crowned as the most successful automatic chronograph movement ever produced" should give it away. It seems that all he knows about the watch came from the promotional booklet
>sapphire infused glass that only diamond can scratch
>completely handmade by man
>my very first day date watch


>>60549425
about 4500 USD, pretty sure he could get a used Explorer 2 for that price, or a Tudor or an Omega or a Sinn with the same movement for 1/4th of the price

>>60549487
Then why is the chronograph running?

>>60549339
Typical leddit retard:
>whinges about getting called out for calling something which isn't high end, "high end"
>admits a two sentences later that Tag is, in fact, not "really" high end

I swear every time I read >>60549281 it makes me a little bit more annoyed.
>Made with sapphire infused glass that only diamond can scratch
>The calibre 16 movement has been crowned as the most successful automatic chronograph movement ever produced
>completely handmade by man
and the crown jewel:
>I've spoiled myself with this gorgeous timepiece

I suppose you really would have to be a faggot to talk like this, online or off. This whole thing never fails.

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>>60549564
it's a goldmine of fine keks, apparently actually being interested in watches more than for their perceived status or flashy looks is elitist trash

>>60549529
Just playing around with a new toy.

>>60549453
That rough, not sure how good the service is in my country for them. Manual mentions it's "protected against impacts", but who knows...

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Got my first penisquartz

>>60549670

Jeez, are all vintage seiko owners fat?
Grats on the watch anon.

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>>60549504
>seems that all he knows about the watch came from the promotional booklet
Always remember /wt/:

The dumbass that typed that shit on leddit is the reason for the profusion of so many shitter brands, and is one of the contributing factors to their continued existence. This is a tier above the fashion watch buyer, who is basically just a general, garden variety normie. The kinds that buy gold tags are basic, garden variety faggots.

Thank fuck that the chinese have been forced to slow their buying splurge and it'll hopefully kill off a lot of bullshit. This leaves the above creatures feeding these brands but there's fewer of them than chinese. The shitter makers will be forced to evolve or die. Now is the crucial time.

One can hope.

>>60549504
>about 4500 USD, pretty sure he could get a used Explorer 2 for that price, or a Tudor or an Omega or a Sinn with the same movement for 1/4th of the price

Yeah there is a shitload of used Rolex models, Tudor chronographs, MOTFM, or even just Damasko, Sinn, other plebbit cheaper brands with a 7750 movement watch that he could get. How he could profess to be spending a significant amount of money for him (so much so that he doubts he could ever buy the "real" high end in his life) for not only a complete piece of dogshit, but paying full fucking ramming for it, is unfathomable. it's not even just a matter of buying shitters, but where were his fucking parents? Do they not give children ANY lessons on "diligence" anymore?

Fuck when I got into watches I spent literally months pouring over brands, service costs, value retention, collectability, horology, bang-per-buck, where and how to buy, etc. before I made a purchase.

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>>60549788
dude, he just wanted to spoil himself with that gorgeous timepiece

>>60549670
Why is there a penis on the watch?

>>60548502
I bought a Starking off AliExpress for this exact purpose.

>>60549877
because it's the penisquartz

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Is the anon who works at the jewelry store who's website is jmechanix.com around?

Was about to send your boss an email about my Accutron but I can't find a contact email on the mobile site and I won't have access to my desktop until Friday.
I'd rather not wait until then care to post it here?

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>>60547146

>>60549429
Go away BigMilk.

>>60548859
Not him, but all their amazing heritage was gutted when the jews that are the Swatch group bought them out.

Back in the early 1900s they made some of the best of the best. Get a vintage, personally I have two and they're stunning. Small though, but most vintage is.

That being said, for a Swatch owned company they are decent. They have a few styles I like.
As far as Swatch owned, I'd only even /consider/ getting Hamilton or Omega. Though, I prefer the vintage of each. Looking for an old Seamaster currently.

>>60548800
So what you're saying is they're pieces of shit

Can someone talk to me about Field Watches? Is there a tier list or a starting point I can look at to see /g/ approved field watches ?

>>60549055
At that price, honesty Seiko.
They have probably over 100 models in that range, loom around and you'll get find one that he'd like the looks of, and with a decent movement to boot.
If he's a faggot he might see the Seiko name and be gay about it. If you see this coming, get him something else.
Personally I recommend the Cocktail Time. It's a little more money, but it looks amazing in person for the price.
Might want to switch the band though.

>inb4 Seikoshill
Yeah, but think about it faggots, the vast majority of people ask for a recommendation in the 150-300 range and Seiko is really the only thing there worth even looking at, unless you're a serious watchfag and will go vintage.
Seiko comes up the most because of the nature of the thread, not because of the circlejerk. Well, mostly.

>>60549948
kek

I dunno about 9gagballfag, but the whole day is thrown off if I forget my watch before heading out. Sure, things are mitigated somewhat by having a smartphone these days compared to when I was in high school and university where it was still a vital tool and phones stayed in the pocket since they were only for calls and texts, but it still doesn't feel right.

Power of habit I suppose.
Nothing is more annoying than being in a hurry and pulling up your wrist expecting to be told the time and instead seeing that hairy appendage, naked: you are faced with the fact that yes, you are still you, unfortunately.

(nothing is more annoying, but eating a spoonful of omelette or scrambled eggs and feeling that grainy, horrible feeling of eggshells on you palate comes pretty fucking close for me - breakfast is ruined)

>2017
>Not buying a watch that you enjoy looking at

>>60550141
>Power of habit I suppose.
This is painfully appropriate when discussing watches.
My Orient Marshall and my Vostok both have Dates, with the Orient even having Day. Wearing both for months on end, I relied upon it to tell me the date.
Now I've gone to my OVM, which I love, but the lack of a date makes it difficult for me to track what day it is sometimes.

>>60550021
IMO the only Swatch brands that are not total shit are:
>Glashütte Original (independent designs, they're basically what Orient is to Seiko)
>Rado (exotic materials like tungsten)
>Blancpain (ultra-high end, handmade)
>Swatch (their entry level cute quartz shit and maybe their Irony quartz chronographs)

>>60549248
Save up a bit and get a SARB. Though they might be cheaper in Japland.

>>60547889
rip

>>60547629
>Try taking macro photos while moving the watch. You either spend more time cleaning the watch, or wear gloves.

You know we don't need to see that fucking ugly green faced seiko literally 5 times per day every fucking day of the week

give it a rest, you will feel better

>>60550251
>Blancpain
Yeah, I can get this. But I'm just not in love with any of the designs, least that I've seen. Obviously very subjective though, but anything I kind of like I've seen something similar somewhere else that I like more.
Also, they're heavy on the previous metals which I'm not really about.
>Swatch quartz
Kel, I'll give you that. But why not just get a terrorist?

>>60550021
>>60550251

The Hamilton watch I was looking at has the Valjoux 7750 automatic movement. Good or bad? The watch is going for 500 on eBay

>>60550021
>Back in the early 1900s they made some of the best of the best.
Hamilton were at their peak when America was at its peak:
1950's, when all the innovation and best products were being churned out of the last Western man left standing after WW2.

>>60548859
When Hamilton commissioned this vid,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2J5phyd9J4
they were tops or edging so close to it.
They were called the "The American Patek Philippe", or "that company that could have been". But they died a slow death and the corpse's name was salvaged by the Swiss in that period when they got busy destroying all other western competition.

The last raff wasn't on them though, since the Japs nuked the fuck out of them and they were so close to killing off the mountaindew for good. Ironically, that near death just increased their jewy tactics ten-fold and so we have what we have today: watches as a luxury product rather than a ubiquitous tool as necessary as clothing.

>>60550021
>That being said, for a Swatch owned company they are decent.
That is true. The khaki auto (smaller, well proportioned model) and the field mechanical are okay. The jazzmaster is an alright dressy watch but all this stuff shouldn't ever be bought at full retail.
With hamilton, buy the very absolute cheapest to lessen the ripoff.

Remember when buying a hamilton: You are buying a watch made in china. If you are okay with that for the price you pay, then go ahead and enjoy.

Any american has access to a world of wonderful vintage models that go for so cheap now since they're smaller than the modern (chinese) standard. It's a shame that so many wonderfully crafted little time telling gold models get gutted for scrap gold.

Rage inducing.

>>60550351
It's a generic ETA movement. Nothing special, in a ton of watches from $350 - $2000. It's not /bad/ and it's easy to service.
Don't buy Swatch based on the movement. You buy Swatch because you really love the design.

>>60549339
That guy should either unironically kill himself or ironically kill himself, whichever is the one that makes him dead

>>60550404
>>60550402


Thanks watch anons. This is blowing my mind

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>>60550251
Any reason why you don't count Breguet? They are technically the jewel in the swatch crown.
The darling brand of Hayek himself.

>>60549320
>>60549339
>>60549564

this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2016
260 points (91% upvoted)

>>60550402
Well said.
When I get home I'll post a pic of my two from the late 40s early 50s.
Have any yourself?

>any American has access
>any/one/ has access
ftfy.
With EBay anyone can get an amazing historically significant watch for a reasonable price and it's so worth it.
Plus if you're an irl memer, vintage shit is "in" and you'll look /fa/.

The only downside is that it's a pain in the ass to get someone to correctly service then.
My two are 100% American made and I was freaking out trying to find a guy for their first service because I didn't want him to replace anything with Swiss/Chink commonplace parts.

>>60550402
>>60550404

Hamilton guy again. I was looking for a automatic Chronograph for 500-1000 and Hamilton was the only thing I found. Are there any others you approve of in the price range or automatics in general?

Thanks

How important is sapphire glas? I want to get a Seiko, but the one I want only has "hardlex" glas...

>>60550479
Kek, yeah it's kind of a mess out there. That's why Seiko gets shilled a lot.

>>60550525
Can you save up another 500 bucks? You get a LOT more options.

>>60550539
It's not. Hardex is fine. I have 2 watches with it and it looks great and doesn't have a scratch.
Obviously Sapphire is better, but at the price I get it. Though for a $450 watch they could fucking put it in.
Though the trade off is an actually decent movement vs. a 25 buck movement and sapphire glass that you see in some Swiss and Chink.

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Find a flaw.

Pro-tip: you can't.

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>>60550502
I personally find them to be delightfully archaic in design (that's intentional on their part, trying to milk the whole historical breguet "lineage" for all it's worth).

But I could never see myself actually paying for one. Resale is horrible, and I've read (admittedly older) anecdotes that say they're not as well finished as befits the price (and the inevitable plunge in value after you walk out of a store with it). I mean, I don't ever want to play the whole flipper ("faster than lightning!") game, but it would be nice to know that some gaudy trinket you bought maintains some semblance of objective, external from you, value.

I read conflicting stuff: that they're severely underrated, and that they're not worth the price (fine details and finishing wise).

Never bothered to handle them in store myself, because, at the end of the day, I would rather not ever buy something this costly from the swatch group.

>>60550479
Gotta say I agree with anon really, REALLY consider a vintage watch.
Takes a bit more effort and research but man, old American shit is awesome.
Coming from a nonburgerfag.
Read some shit, they were once the tip top best in the world.

>>60550628
>I personally find them to be delightfully
Could you not talk like a fag here?

>>60550594
Yes I can save another 500 if there is an increase in value and options.

Please let me know what other options I have.

>>60550640
Thanks anon. I'll look into vintage stuf

>>60550651
Could you not suck so many dicks like a fag here?

>>60550658
Not him, but a good amount.
Do a little research and come back with what you like. Then we'll help.
I'm not going to just list every chrono in that range.
Especially considering ascetic preference.

>>60550679
>Could you not suck so many dicks like a fag here?
Delightfully archaic comeback well finished semblance of trinket admittedly.

You seriously talk like a fucking faggot, it's cringe-worthy

are you actually gay?

>>60550744

I meant brands anon. Somewhere to start

>>60550744
>ascetic
We monks now

>>60550658
You can start by looking at Sinn and expand from there

>>60550523
>Have any yourself?
No, unfortunately. I can only salivate over them from my watch books and online.

What models do you have?

>any/one/ has access'
>With EBay anyone can get an amazing historically significant watch for a reasonable price and it's so worth it.
Ehh, not true for me at least, as far as ebay's concerned anyway. Getting essentially what is a piece of gold sent from the US to me incurs too many risks: it would be costly enough that I would be facing extortionate customs costs (potentially 70% of the value of the goods + postage - yeah, no thanks) and the very real threat of theft since it's gold, after all. And if not a gold watch, it's still a watch and therefore perceived to be valuable. Even if it's rusted junk, it's at risk. Let me put it this way, we've had some little bronze teaspoons go missing. Our only supposition has been that one of the maids (likely the one who fucking also stole my watches) took the spoons because they probably thought they were gold, because sure as shit bronze is cheap as anything here and not worth hauling away compared to the actually silver silverware.

They are that dumb. I can't even risk a Vostok and pay 70% of its value and open an empty box lmao. Not worth it.

American sellers (ebay or otherwise) that ship out of the US at all are, in my experience, deathly afraid of undervaluing shit on their customs forms, in fact the only individual who has done so for me was some kind of Mexican living in the states. Any other country, western or shit, are perfectly okay with defrauding customs. Japs, Brits, Greeks, French, Aussies, Chinese (of course), and others. But not Americans. What are they afraid of? Are the post offices that much more intimidating over there or something?

I've found a specialist vintage American watch repairer and seller (independent website) that has some Hammy's I'm interested in. Might give them a whirl and get something sent to a less shitty country I visit regularly.

>>60550602
The day pusher is fucking dumb. Mako 2 is perfect.

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>>60550651
Been reading that delightfully spoiling leddit post too much. I fear I must spoil myself with another gorgeous shitpost!

>>60550864
If maids are stealing your shit, stop hiring maids.

>>60550752
>Delightfully archaic comeback
Isn't anonymous posting fun? Not me giving you that (You) there, babe.

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>>60550752
Nigger, I'm not even him. I just saw you go full retard on someone for using adverbs. Had to step in and claim you sucked cock like a gentleman.

>>60550864
That's rough yo. Sorry to hear.
>what models do you have
Honestly I don't know. I've tried placing them from old pdfs of Hamilton catalogs, but could only get so far as dating them based on similar aesthetics.
I do know the movements of each though, not off the top of my head, I have them written down somewhere at home.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/marc-newson-hourglass-limited-edition-for-hodinkee

So what do you think about this gorgeous 12k. dollar hourglass? Surely a timepiece worth spoiling yourself over, and 0 service costs! Would you think about that?

>>60550885

Your and idiot

>>60550963
delightful!

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>>60551093
>you'll never break it open and feel approximately 1,249,996 nanoballs trickle onto your balls for exactly 10min before literally orgasming with horological bliss
why live?

>>60551093
JewYorkers being jews.

Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1sy7yfu900
And tell me you didn't laugh when you saw all three stooges in the same shot. Identical triplets. Same faggy numale fashion sense.

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If you has €20000 to invest in watches that will increase in value, what would you buy?

>>60551435
Mutual funds.

>>60550404
An elaborate grade 7750 itself costs 450 dollars to for low volume watch makers.. what watch is selling for 350 dollar with a 7750 and where the fuck did they buy them and what grade are they?

>>60551722
>used

>>60550042
yes

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>>60551435
Vostoks.

>>60551776
>buying another mans watch

>>60551842
anon, we're the only ones who put them on our dicks

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>>60548192

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>>60551093

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>>60551435
A holy grail Speedmaster and as many mint condition vintage Grand Seikos and King Seikos as I could find in pawn shops in Tokyo in good condition.

>>60551840
I love this, I doubt I'll be able to find one though. Any other budget green divers for cheap? Rolex Hulk Submariner is (one of) my dream watches.

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>>60552950
If you can live with a MDV106 homage.

>>60553295

Not even close.

>>60552950
There is one of those green neptunes on ebay right now.

>>60548602
>$900

Fuck no.

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Did I do good, /wt/? It's still in the mail.

>>60550602
They look like the cheap Target watches I wore when I was a teenager in the late 90's.

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>>60553459
not terrible.

not great either......

ehh its okay.

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>>60553459

>>60553613
Yeah, but it looks nice.

>>60553459
Dogshit

"horology" is the first step into (((pedophilia)))

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>>60553849
Why, because a fetish for NOS watches leads to a fetish for NOS girls?

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>>60553849
Well that explains that.

>>60548004
It must feel incredibly shitty to know that you will soon have a scar for the rest of your life thanks to a shitter. Was it worth it?

My Blackshield.

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>>60554029
Forgot the fucking file like a retard.

>>60554046
too many lolis on your gay mac, negro?

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>>60554062
what?

>>60554084
do you carry a katana and a fedora?

>>60554084
Fucking nice

>>60554106
lel

>>60553999

Already have the scar, baby. Added character to my watch, added character to me.

>>60554084

>Leather gloves
>Wool coat
>Adidas

>>60554084
Post your fit anon, I dare you.

>>60554172
I live in NYC, I usually change into shoes when I get to the office.

>>60554084
RIP whoever was in that elevator with you

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>>60554084

>>60554046
7753 good movement but not for 5k

>>60547541
Nah, an alpinist looks best on a good brown leather strap. Not the shit it came with though

>>60554268
Pair that with a dagger and you're invincible against anybody without either mad skill or a gun. Jus sayin.

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whats a nigger tier watch?

>>60554306
Sure, and your Panerai will obliterate anyone upon impact.

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>>60554338

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>>60554338

>>60554347
>not wearing an iced out rolex
poorfag

>>60554348
h-how do you press the buttons

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>>60554358
i like stainless fum

>>60554365
with both fingers idiot

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I'm looking at Tudor's Black Bay.

Question: Do they modify the ETA?

Question: What's a good secondhand price for a Black Bay ETA W/ some warranty left?

>>60554280
Where are you paying $5k? I picked it up for 3.9

>>60554338
does this post violate SAFE FOR WORK standards?

>>60554383
>Do they modify the ETA?

Read >>60501808

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>>60554414
no

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>>60554414
do (you) violate decency standards?

>>60554459
I can't fathom buying that watch

>>60546971
it's alright, but it needs a good two weeks to start working when it discharges, which makes for an awkward couple of weeks
>hey anon, what time is it
>*pull out phone*
>why not just check your watch?
>have to explain that the battery is dead and I'm charging it
>every day
>for two weeks
otherwise it's a charm

>>60554515
kek, good one

>>60548004
I once went to help a friend open a bag of sauce (which was thick as a black chicks ass) for lunch with my multitool's knife
Still have the scar

>>60554459
blech you violate humanity with that wretched, tacky and played-out blancpain

>>60554515
only a legitimate classless asshole would buy that watch. money doesn't buy one class.

>>60554459
I fucking hate date windows at 4:30. Am I the only one who thinks it looks retarded?

>>60554540
GET IT! FATHOM!! FIFTY FATHOMS!1

>>60554459
all that money but no taste

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>>60554646
what would you buy with 10 000 and all your class?

>>60554348
>>60554347
This is exactly the shit tasteless rich Mainland Chinese new rich faggots would buy

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>>60554661
Not sure a geophysics true second or a cellini time
or something similar

I prefer the Tudor black bay blue btw, the red's too loud (and frankly vulgar), with the rose gold.

The red's something a Chicago negroid pimp would wear.

>>60554793
very good

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>>60547007
Yeah, they're nice

>>60551435
Down payment for a house

>>60554793
What's special about the geo

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Any m/o/tards in here?

>>60554947
goddamned russians

>>60555078
no but be sure to get the loudest possible exhaust, and do wheelies all over the city

>mfw a 'rider' died here the other day, and most of us celebrated

that's how hated bikers are. thanks for being assholes!

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Which one of these do you like better, friendos?

>>60555104
those look like chechens

>>60555206
left, not a fan of the date window

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>have nice watches
>don't wear them often due to working my dirty job constantly
>personal hobbies also involve working with tools and getting dirty
>wear my casio all the time as a result

>>60555130
Never go full edge.

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>>60555130
>MFW a cager got hit by a train. Everyone celebrated.

>>60555243

I didn't ask you

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>>60555279
What?

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>>60555130
Who hurt you, anon?

>>60555266
"cager"....

well thankfully the death rate of "cages" vs. motorcycles is astronomical for the bikers.

>and everyone hates you, so there's that

>>60555130
Kek

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>>60555353
Don't worry everyone hates cagers too. Especially other cagers. Mostly because no one breaks laws more than them.

>>60555206
montblanc ultra-slim of course (on the left), I'm trying to buy one -- but I can't fucking find where to purchase them.

>>60555489
lmao I hope a cager opens his door on you as you're splitting lances

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>>60555489
well you're clearly in a biker gang
>'cager'
so this conversation is over, your kind are very intimidating and you live on the EDGE! 1%! Outlaws!
>who love seikos....

>>60555261
why do we allow 9fag here?

>>60555022
its simple under 10k list and has a decently interesting movement.

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>>60546752
Seiko Elnix, the brother of the cosmotron, runs at 28,800bph. Just finished cleaning it a bit

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I just found this and really like it

What's /g/'s opinion?

>>60555078
>>60555130

What are some /o/ memes? I never go there.

>>60555078
I like it

>>60555750
The Miata is goat and gay. So perfect for anyone with a 7S26 movement.

>>60555749
The dial is pretty rough m8. I'd look for one in better condition, but otherwise a pre swatch hamilton is pretty good.

>>60555786
What's wrong with an skx009 for a beater? I'm not wearing my Tudor in the pool.

>>60555825
faggot

>>60548395
I like this Speedmaster better than the reduced/professional (yours is the mk2?)

I've seen people take the dials out of the case with ease, do you know what I'm referring to?

>>60555825
That's the point. They're great watches/cars, but you're still a faggot for having one.

>>60555808
Any other watches with a similar face style I should look out for?

>>60554528
really? mine has never ran out of charge in the two years ive had it. I actually left it inside my drawer for like 2 months and it was still working when I took it out

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>>60555885
Mine is actually a Mark 4.5 from 1974 and it features the Lemania 5100 movement, generally regarded as one of the greatest automatic chronograph movements of all time.

Here is an excellent article about vintage Omega Speedmasters using the Lemania 5100 (which Omega called the Caliber 1045) by Chuck Maddox:

http://chronomaddox.com/c1045_in_detail.html

Also, yes, these old Speedmasters had the dial+movement as a separate case from the shroud, as in pic related.

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>>60555695
new webm showing the beat rate

>>60555896
That sort of style (with the cushion case) seems like it was popular in the 20s/30s. Aside from rolex I don't remember offhand what other makers would be worth looking into. I'm sure there are more.

>>60555967
Yes I'm quite familiar with the Lemania 5100, do you regard it even higher than Seiko's 8R chronograph movement? If so, why?

Aren't you worried about the dial/movement falling out at any given time? What holds them in place?

>>60555743
36000... Seiko used to be affordable luxury, at the pinnacle of technology.

Today's presage = 6r15 or 4r36 (21000 bph)

Seiko could develop higher-beat movements and longer reserves for their sub-GS models.

Why don't they?

>>60556125
>affordable luxury
There's that term again

>>60556057
>What holds them in place?
Your wrist, they go in from the back it looks like.

>>60556160

It's a polite term for shitter

>>60556057
I wouldn't necessarily categorize in terms of higher and lower here. The 8R is an excellent vertical clutch column wheel design, while the Lemania 5100 is an ugly value engineered pillar construction cam-actuated design (though a vertical clutch thankfully!).

What really sets the L5100 apart are the central register chronograph minute hand, the incredible shock resistance due to the directly driven chronograph minute and seconds hands, and the ridiculous reliability of these movements.

By comparison the 8R is a well executed, but relatively straightforward design. If anything I think Seiko's older 6S is probably even better than the 8R.

And, as >>60556178 mentioned, the movement goes into the tonneau from the back so no worries of it falling out while worn. To be honest I've never even bothered to learn how to remove it on mine.

>>60556125
To get you to buy a GS, would be the cynical answer.

Probably had something to do with suwa being more adventurous when it comes to movement design.

Is the build quality of Seiko 5s way worse than Japan made Seikos?

>>60554383
>>60554426
>>Do they modify the ETA?
>Read >>60501808 →

To add to that post, I've done some reading and it would seem that Tudor modify more than I initially thought:

So apart from the obvious removal of all date related functions from the Top grade 2824 (no phantom crown positions etc.,) and as I have already mentioned they replace the Incabloc shock absorbers with the old Rolex standard Kif system, they also replace the balance cock with their own and replace the Etachron regulator (standard ETA regulator) with a Triovis regulator. And of course they decorate it with some nice perlage.

So that's surprisingly more than I would've thought, and certainly more than what many other companies that used so-called "modified ETAs" bother to do. I can't say it's a different movement, but it's getting there. Certainly they could've called it "Tudor Calibre______" which is the norm amongst brands that want to disguise the fact that they don't use their own movements, and they would certainly be more entitled to the practice than others that just replace the fucking rotor and call it their own calibre, but they don't and clearly call it a ETA 2824 on their official site. I like that honesty.

Kif in theory is better than Incabloc, and the new regulator is preferred by many other brands (Girard Perregaux, Nomos, Richard Mille et. al.) over the kind of screw that base ETA's use, which allows for more precise regulation at the cost of ease of regulation but unless you're the watchmaker doing the regulation, who cares. I don't know how Tudor's new balance cock affects the system and why they replaced it though.

Everyone shitting on the basic ETA Tudors may want to rethink their stance; this is definitely not the same ETA 2824 as used in say, tags and other shitters (they all use ETA clones now anyway lmao).

>>60556266
I just wish they would've used a 2892-A2 as a base, especially when you're paying a few kilobucks.

>>60556217
>If anything I think Seiko's older 6S is probably even better than the 8R
This is true. It's thinner and is a fully integrated chronograph so all the goodies are on the bottom instead of the utterly boring 6R portion of the 8R, as well as better shock protection and regulation. The 8R does have the triple vertical clutch instead of an oscillating pinion though and the subdial layout is subjectively better.

>>60556217
why aren't we seeing more innovation from Seiko on the pre-GS models?

We're still working with 4r36 and 6r15 movements with 21000 bph.

Kintaro Hattori is turning in his GRAVE!

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>>60546971
Love mine :)

>>60556304
A 2892 is just 1mm thinner, has fewer jewels and maybe a few hours more power reserve, and the latter point could be counterbalanced by reports that 2824's have far more efficient winding than the 92s (though I've not noticed a difference myself, perhaps in the relatively inactive there's a noticeable difference).

So it would've allowed Tudor to make the black bays 1mm thinner but that's about it as far as I can see.

2892s are much harder to get for non-swatch group companies, so that and price may have ultimately dictated Tudor's decision to go with old reliable.

>>60556257
Save up and get the SARB033.

>>60556304
true

>cosc

Also why doesn't Tudor use 904 stainless? It's more resistant to corrosion than 316 (and Rolex uses it).

Or is 904 just a gimmick for Rolex?

>>60556631
904 would bump up the prices too high. Remember, Tudor is a poorman's rolex or at least a rolex for the common man; they don't want to have fighters in the same class.

>>60556631
904 is softer and more scratch prone than 316, no idea why the fuck anybody is using it in watches.

>>60554793
The movement on the geo may be interesting but if I had to pick one to wear then the Cellini's win hands down. They really are some nice looking watches.

>>60556304
>there was no reason for them to use a 2892 its more expensive and uglier than the 2824 for some additional power reserve and very slight reduction in thickness .

/wt/ - Lemania, the best movement ever made and Seiko alpinists

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>>60546815
Its an eta 2824

>>60558057
Straight from Theo & Harris?

pelagos or black bay?

>>60555749
I mean it's beat as fuck. But vintage Hamiltons are one hell of a watch.

Read above in the thread, they were discussed.

>>60546116
What's the best non-shitter watch, new, under $200. Don't care if it's quartz ot mechanical

>>60554459
That looks like the ultimate ladies' watch.

>>60554459
Nice Vostok homage.

>>60558266
There is hundreds of them, way too wide of a question

>>60558337
What about divers? Other than SKX

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>>60558057
Nice oysterquartz. How's the flex in the bracelet? I can only assume there's more than in 17000.

>>60558091
yes

>>60558414
orient ray
casio mdv106 if you want cheap quartz, it's quite big though

>>60559037
Are citizen automatic divers good?

>>60559046
ye

>>60551290

I dress like them and have the same taste. If you don't then maybe horology isn't for you.

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How do I become a watch shill for a Chinese brand?

>>60559684
Have a personality
Have a good understandable voice
Don't be boring
Have charisma
Don't be boring
Seriously don't be boring.

If you do that you can shill literal dog shit, and still rake in views.

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>>60559684
>wear it in good heath.
I thought that was just a meme.

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Is there a better homage to the royal oak than this out there?

>>60559856
How do you think it became one here? Because people actually say that shit.

>>60559581
>being a carbon copy numale jewboi is mandatory for an interest in watches
Yeah, sure faggot.
Post your fit so we can all laugh at your faggy beard lmao

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>>60560428

>>60560634
That's a bad homage though

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>>60560428
The Bulova Royal Oak.

>>60560634
Nice meme.

>>60556304
>>60556544
>>60557329
I think you guys are seriously underselling the 2892-A2. The movement has considerably better inherent accuracy than the 2824-2, so much so that it is commonly considered to trade blows with Rolex's 303x design (of which it was a contemporary).

I've seen it once described as the difference between a movement that can be made a chronometer and one that was born to be a chronometer, and the ETA 2892-A2 certainly fits the latter description.

As I've said before, I wouldn't even LOOK at a 2824-2 powered Black Bay if I could get an in-house version instead, as the Tudor in house caliber is a big step up with a silicon hairspring, free sprung balance wheel, much longer power reserve, and better shock resistance.

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Anyone know where I can grab one of these?

>>60561355
have you tried searching ebay for gagarin watch?

>>60561355
There are shit loads on eBay if you search for Sturmanskie Gagarin.

Here's an example - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192190606847

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>>60561239
>better inherent accuracy
>the difference between a movement that can be made a chronometer and one that was born to be a chronometer
I suppose there is that, but just like Tudor's extensive modifications, it's more theory than hard and fast certainty; end of the day it's not a given that it will actually perform better. I've had both and they were both fine performers (2892 was COSC'd and the 2824 was regulated after a service - end of the day no practical difference, I mean, I had an orient mako that was doing +5 sec a day at one point). Nevertheless, I guess it's nice to know that something should perform better, if only in theory.

>As I've said before, I wouldn't even LOOK at a 2824-2 powered Black Bay if I could get an in-house version instead, as the Tudor in house caliber is a big step up with a silicon hairspring, free sprung balance wheel, much longer power reserve, and better shock resistance.
I kinda wish their inhouse models were as thin as the ETA ones though now lol.

Funny that on the used market they seem to be going for around the same price, perhaps a hundred or two either way. I don't even think the retail price changed. Last time I lingered in a boutique they still had some of the ETA ones left alongside some new ones. IIRC they were the same price.

I wonder if they'll upgrade the black bay 36mm? A fatter case would ruin what is pretty much the true spiritual successor of the Explorer 1. I can't decide as to whether it works or looks stupid with the oversized crown and snowflake hands though.

>>60561543
Hell, my Chinese watch with some no name garbage movement is sitting at +4 seconds a day right now.

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>>60561543
It matters to me because one of my main interests in this hobby is the engineering of the movements and their technical details, and I really have an appreciation for that inherent accuracy advantage. Plus I regulate my own watches (except my Rolex, which I got my watchmaker to do) so I get to enjoy the benefits.

My 116223 Datejust was set on April 22 and is still +0s total since then. I also have a 1975 King Seiko Special that runs close to +0.0s/d and which has gone 14 days and 18 days running +0.0 total.

>>60561355
Be careful, they're faked out the ass.

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Opinion on those straps ?

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>>60561239
2892 is 110 dollars more than the 2824 its clearly a slightly better movement but i wouldn't say it has "considerably better inherent accuracy" in practice.

It is a better movement I agree with you.. I love the 2892 but you are also underselling a top-grade 2824 which is also an exceptional movement.

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Micro scratches on this watch are a bitch.

So I've been toying with the idea of learning to service a 7s26 movement, because it has a lot of good resources online and is cheap. How many times would I have to fuck up before doing it? Is it possible that my hands would just be too shaky and all the money I spent on tools would be wasted?

>>60548676
Still no excuse. That is not even a challenge, alternatives exist, today.

>>60562555
I have a green alpinist, and it too is full of micro scratches.

This was my first """real""" watch, so is this normal in the ~400 price range?

Is Seiko known for using soft stainless steel?

Do more expensive steel watches not scratch as easily?

>>60562106
I'd never pay that much for a strap, but that's just me.

>>60551435
if potential returns are your primary concern, there are much better places to invest money.

>>60555750
>super eurobeat, GAS GAS GAS and other initial D memes
>miatas
>WAT racing development
>twingo

>>60562667

Nah, any polished watch is going to show scratches over time. If you really want to, you can use a little polish to take out the scratches. I just wear it like a beater. Wear it when I'm working on my car.

>>60551435
7 rolex oysterquartz watches

>tfw no oysterquartz

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>>60564084
>>60564084
New thread.

>>60558085
?

>>60558583
Almost zero, the I feel like the oysterquartz is one of the first real modern Rolexes quality wise.