/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Old: >>60507181

File: 3045286posterp1themostviraltattoo.gif (2MB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 640x360px

Is the zero fan modus for gpus worth it or is it a meme?

t. First time assembler

Hello again /pcbg/,
I'm the guy that asked for help picking parts for a very tight budget PC because my girlfriend destroyed my PC beyond repair.

You've helped me out greatly which I'm very grateful for, I checked the stores around here and had decided what I'll end up building once I get my couple days off from work.

However, as always, luck is not on my side.
The 600-800 euro's (about 785 dollar) I could spend are now down to 400-500 euro's only. (+/- 450-600 dollars) because the car I need for work unexpectedly needed a new timing belt (not sure if it's called like that in English)

Could you please help me out once more and suggest parts for a build I can play WoW and browse internet videos with more or less OK?
I don't need the best settings in WoW just something that wont stutter like crazy.

I need everything, OS // All the parts including case // mouse & keyboard and perhaps a headset I can go on TS and Discord with, a screen is not required I found one on Ebay I could pick up for free (it's a 1920x1080), has scratches and dents and bit worn out colors but it's fine.

It would be much much appreciated.

p.s. - for those wondering, I got my girlfriend to go to psych person appointments, which also have to be paid so it's improtant that I stay within this 450-600 dollar budget

Thanks in advance.

>>60515689
What the hell is zero fan modus?
Do you mean 0% fan when idle?

>>60515731
> got my girlfriend to go to psych person appointments

Are you ugly as fuck or why haven't you dumped her yet?

>>60515731
Make a g4560 build with GTX 1050ti and see how much room there is left to improve

Got a EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW ACX for $370

How's I do?

>>60515768
I hope it won't explode on you.

>>60515778
Why would it?

>>60515787
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/238633-evga-gtx-1080s-1070s-allegedly-exploding-due-improper-vrm-cooling
https://forums.evga.com/1080-FTW-exploded-now-dead-and-took-other-parts-with-it-m2583259.aspx
http://in.pcmag.com/gaming/109597/news/evga-gtx-1080-and-1070-cards-exploding-under-stress
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/5dly01/exploding_evga_1080_ftw/

File: afwetb4at.png (393KB, 540x540px) Image search: [Google]

393KB, 540x540px

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tZXdPs
Did I fuck anything up royally if my aim is 1080p@60hz?

File: 6670-iSilence-5.jpg (93KB, 600x400px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 600x400px

>>60515689

if you mean completely passively cooled (see pic related) then you're going to get a shitty card that's barely better than integrated in most cases but might be acceptable for some very light gaming, probably not ideal for enclosed cases (like mini-itx media players) but if you want a silent rig with lots of video output it might be worth it

if you mean proper gpus with fans that have the fans turn off when not in use, like >>60515741 suggests, they're probably not worth it unless you have almost no fans in your system to begin with, third party gpu heatsyncs/fans tend to be very quiet on idle anyway and are going to be more isolated than case fans which tend to be far noisier to begin with

Is it okay to pair GTX 1060 6GB with Ryzen 5 1600? I know it's better to pair it with RX 570/580 but power consumption on those AMD cards is ridiculous + it's seems that 1060 such as MSI Gaming X 6GB runs cooler than Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB.

anyone applying for the asus cashback? what the fuck is a valid invoice if you can't show your order in a screenshot? do they seriously expect you to pay for your stuff in a store and not online

If I want to get an old IBM desktop case what could not work if I fill it with modern hardware?

Mainboards were already ATX, PSUs had the same size as today, drives where 3.5" - what could go wrong?

>>60515796
Well anyone who doesn't have custom fan settings in MSI Afterburner was a retard to begin with.

>>60515817
>but power consumption on those AMD cards is ridiculous
???
220w is ridiculous? You could run that fine on a 400w PSU

>>60515741
>>60515808
I mean fans that are not in use under very light load. The gtx 1050ti costs like 20 euros more with a zero fan modus.

>>60515731
>unexpectedly needed a new timing belt
There is no such thing as unexpectedly needing a timing belt. TIming belts are wear items that need to be replaced as part of regular maintenance once every 60,000 miles or 100,000 miles depending on the car. Read the goddamned owners manual (You know. That book in the glovebox that came with the car that no one ever reads). There should be a chart near the back of the book that tells you what parts you can expect to need replacing at which mileage.

I HATE COIL WHINE

>>60515832
>not noticing none of the mentioned cards work with Afterburner
you're the retard

>>60515934
[Citation Needed]

>>60515801

you can get G.Skill Ripjaws V Series ddr4-3200 for like $110 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

but if you want to stick to corsair you can get ddr4-3200 for like $10 more

I can't remember if it's the amd cpus or intel that gained a huge deal from faster memory and 200mhz isn't that big of a deal but it might be worth it in the long run

I'd seriously consider getting an 80+ gold psu at a minimum though

is a gtx 970 a good deal or can i get a better card for the same price?

>>60515962
for 100Euros*

>>60515757
Thank you I will look into this.
>>60515747
I would like to try and help her improving herself, if it doesn't work I'll have to cut off things for my own good but for now I'd like to try this and see if it helps. (I hope it does)

File: Citation.jpg (209KB, 1500x1071px) Image search: [Google]

209KB, 1500x1071px

>>60515956

>>60515747
All women have psychological issues.

>>60515962
Yeah that's pretty good.

>>60515832

it's more than just fan speed it's the fact there's an air gap between vrm and heatsink where there should be something like a thermal pad, the kit evag sent out included a thermal pad for users to install to fix the issue, thermal pads that should have been installed at the factory

adjusting fan speeds barely mitigates the issue and isn't a solution in the long run

>>60515987
What is she doing?

>>60515879

it's probably not going to make a huge difference in overall noise but if you're aiming for a quiet rig every bit of sound reduction makes a difference

if you have something like 3-4 case fans or a dual fan cpu heatsink to begin with it's almost not going to make a noticeable difference though

>>60515829

I bought a sun ultra workstation case that wasn't atx but did have atx mounting holes, the usual issues tend to be top mounted psus, lack of proper mounting (but if it did have an atx mobo this should be fine), lack of drive space, lack of fan space etc

probably won't be an issue in your situation

what is the best model of the rx580 8gb?

>>60515995
I guess, some more than others though.
>>60516012
She often has these very ''strong moods''.
I can handle them just fine most of the time, sure it isn't nice when she's like that but it's ok I guess, all part of it.
However last week I came home to parts of my computer parts laying everywhere.
She had completely destroyed my computer and everything that was with it, she even threw away the small book I had with the Windows disc and the code and all the passwords I had written down.
Still not sure what that was good for but she blamed me for something so she thought it would justify her destroying the only thing besides my car I have that keeps me distracted.
I work a lot for little money unfortunately so unfortunately I can't just buy a new computer right away, I also have to make payments for her psych appointments so it's pretty difficult on how to build this computer with this little money. (400-500 euro's now that I need everything including the OS, just the monitor I don't have to because I could pick one up for free)
I asked last week in this same kind of thread for some help on a small budget and was helped by very kind and helpful anon's.

>>60515822
>if you can't show your order in a screenshot
I don't really know, try e-mailing the webstore you bought it from and ask if they can give you a receipt in a format SNSV will accept.

>>60516089
Well damn you gotta dump her.

>>60516010
Yeah but other times there were issues with drivers, etc. and GPUs cooked.

>>60516138
If this kind of thing happens again, I will.

>>60516159
which country are you in?

can someone recommend me some unique looking cases? atx or matx is fine, but it has to be available (ie no lian li boat cases)

>>60516344
do you have a budget in mind?

File: 1495341419638.jpg (57KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 1000x1000px

asked this yesterday but got no reply.
what are the chances of one of these fan splitters causing a short circuit and resulting in fried components?

>>60516273
Latvia

>>60516512
damn. no specific latvia pcpartpicker site. well, this will have to do then. My attempt at a budget build prices in your country will vary.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sVHbzM

>>60516555
Thanks a lot, I appreciate your help very much.
I will look at my nearest store for these parts
Thank you

>>60516360
few hundred i guess. $350 ish

>>60516479
If the chances were very high, they wouldn't exist. as long as you aren't chaining multiples of them together, you should be fine

I want to build my first computer.
Is 700 dollars enough to build a good one that will be able to play most things steam has to offer?

I also wanna use it to practice my technology skills since I am going to make this a career somehow tbqh

>>60516674
that'ts true, but that one looks a bit shitty and cheap compared to all the other ones on amazon which have braided cables and plastic shrouds. this was the only one i could find which wasn't an add-on item and required a £20 minimum order. shall i just cover the whole thing in electric tape to be safe?

>>60516695
>Is 700 dollars enough to build a good one that will be able to play most things steam has to offer?
yes. Here's the build I plan on making for reference. Around the same price actually.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nhn9Yr

does ryzen have issues with Win 10, I remember hearing about that around launch

>>60516721
No, that one is perfectly safe. The fancy ones are just fancy for looks.

>>60516740
it was to do with scheduler

>>60516740
no but it does have issues with windows 7, though that's mainly microsoft's fault.

I'm building a streaming computer for a friend of mine, and I plan on using an r5 1600x in it. Which GPU would be better for it, a 1060 6GB or an RX 580?

>>60516764
it doesn't actually have any issue in w7, just microsoft blocking updates on it

>>60516555
hey there
I hope that you're still here
I called the store and asked them about the parts, it turns out that they don't have the RAM and that it's going to be more expensive than on the pcpartpicker list, unfortunately quite a bit more expensive.
Could you please let me know if there's anywhere I could make save money without losing too much performance?

>>60516695
do you have any components that can be re-used? a friend of mine had an old case with 3 fans and a couple of 500gb hhd's and managed to build a whole ryzen 1600 + gtx 1070 build for around $700.

>>60516796
get the 1600 instead of the 1600x and you can spend that money which would have been spent on the slight boost in clocks and a cpu cooler on a gtx 1070.

gtx 1070 + r5 1600 is the best price/perf build right now imo.

Mediamarkt in the german caliphate is currently selling the crucial mx300 525gb for 129 euros

http://www.ebay.de/itm/CRUCIAL-525-GB-MX300-Interne-SSD-2-5-Zoll-/252551954288?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

>>60516832
There actually isn't much of a way to go cheaper without sacrificing performance.
As to the ram, any 8GB kit of DDR4 ram (preferably 2 sticks of 4GB) will do. Just aim for something with a heat spreader.

Is it still okay to follow logical increments? I've been gone for some years.
Here's the build I have right now: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7B7Fd

I like to program and some of my applications can really take a lot of processing power. I have three monitors, with lots of applications and windows open, and I occasionally stream (though not video games). I'm interested in a GPU, probably a 1070, but my budget will not allow for it right now. I'd prefer to keep the total build cost around $700-$800, but definitely not over $900. I will be adding an additional 8GB of RAM later.

>>60516876
Okay thank you

>>60516890
No.
Logicalexcrements is a shill site that gives bad recommendations so they make money.

Which parts can i afford to save money on?
and i mean the relevant ones (cpu, video card, ram, motherboard...)
I have a budget of 1000-1200 euros and i need something between a workstation and a gaymen pc
Most resource intensive stuff i do is rendering 3D landscapes, i mostly play old games, but enjoy pirating some shit AAA title once in a while for the lulz
I kinda want to stay on i7 like my current laptop and at least 16GB of RAM
Not sure about video cards or motherboards, haven't really touched PC building since 2010
but i am aiming for mATX
i already have a monitor and speakers btw so that's 200-400€ off the cost

hey, what would be a good cheap computer-in-a-box for playing old games? Like half-life mods.

>>60516890
get a cheaper cpu cooler, cheaper mobo, cheaper case and psu. maybe then you can try and squash a 1070 in there.

>>60516927
Alright, thanks, I'll try to look around for alternatives.

>>60516952
The 1070 is absolutely not necessary right now, but I just want ability to accommodate it later.
>get a cheaper X
That's not helpful at all.

File: prime.jpg (52KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 500x500px

>>60515663
Is a $150 PSU worth it?

>>60516943
An i3-7320 or i3-7350k if you mean just an htpc with no dGPU.

For something more capable but still cheap, a 1500X and RX560.

>>60517013
what about those windows sticks? They seem more than capable to play early 2000s games.

>>60516940
The best processor for price to performance ratio at the moment is the AMD Ryzen 5 1600. Pair that with a B359 chipset motherboard and you should be good. The 1600's 6 cores allows it to offer similar performance to i7's, especially when overclocked. All Ryzen chips come unlocked for overclocking, and all B350 and X370 chipset mobos support overclocking. The 1600s 6 cores also mean it's great at resource intensive things.
As to a GPU, an RX470/570 would be perfectly fine

>>60516987
Unless you're doing some crazy niche shit, no.

whats the go with m2 ssds? are sata ssds that much slower? odd that they seem to be since sata supports 6gbps

>>60517013
>i3-7350k
there is no reason for that thing to exist

>>60517034
that guys retarded, anything will play them, get a pentium g4560 build for about $300. a pc stick will give you several issues including expanding and ports

>>60516890
>lots of applications and windows open
>lot of processing power
>occasionally stream
Then get a 8 core R7 1700 instead of 4 cores 7700k
This just shows how logicalincrements is bad, it's not like the more money you put in a build the better it is at all

>>60517056
The biggest difference between M.2 and sata is latency.
It's great for really niche use cases but for loading OS and games the gains over sata are unnoticeable and in a lot of cases barely measureable.

>>60517036
>allows it to offer similar performance to i7's
Better. In 3D rendering, and anything else that uses the cores, the R5 1600 is straight up better

>>60517036
>B359
B350

>>60517107
for what uses? i imagine logs or something

if the A-XMP profile on my MOBO correctly reads the overclock setting do I have to manually increase voltage

>>60517036
thanks
hows the 7 1700 tho? if there's something i'm willing to blow money on it's cpu

>>60517150
K versions have higher stock clocks
no, it's not worth it
what CPU do you intend to get?

i5 7600 vs Ryzen 1600

I'm building a video/photo editing PC. I use Premiere if that helps. It doesn't need to be instant speed fast at rendering but wouldn't take 2 hours. Should I fall for the Ryzen meme?

Could a Noctua L9 cooler manage to "passive Idle" a R5 1600?

>>60517171
IIRC AMD hasn't bribed adobe enough, so they use CUDA & optimise for intel exclusively.

if i don't plan on overclocking, is there any reason for me to pick the 7XX0k over the 7XX0?

>>60517170
>no it's not worth it
so i should go with the the 7XX0 then?
i plan on getting the i7

File: x264 & x265.png (66KB, 1262x1172px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 1262x1172px

>>60517171
The R5 1600 is better at everything than any i5
But video editing, do you really have to ask? It dominates it completely
Hell, it even fucks a 7700k

>>60517171
>>60517184
Go Intel, Adobe are massive intel shills and don't work on AMD at all

>>60517132
Anything where you need more memory than reasonable for RAM and it's not quite latency sensitive enough to be unreasonable at M.2 speeds.

>>60517184

Ah fuck, that's a shame. I was getting excited on building an AMD machine.

>>60517186
>so i should go with the the 7XX0 then?
>i plan on getting the i7
Oh, so you meant 7700k.
The 7700k is a special case because the K version is clocked very, very high. But what are you gonna get it for?

>>60517167
The Ryzen 5 1600 is just a Ryzen 7 1700 with 2 cores deactivated and 4 less threads. It's a better CPU for sure, but the performance increase for the price isn't very good value. That said, it is a fantastic CPU capable of blowing away i7's in multi-thread and multi-core tasks.

>>60517184
>>60517196
He didn't talk about GPUs
The R5 1600 beats any i5 at premiere pro and all of the other advantages it has outshine the very slight lead the i5 has in some photoshop effects

>>60517202
a lot of the programming i do requires a lot of processing power, so to speed things up i plan on going with an i7-7700k since i was very happy with my i7 sandybridge. but if i don't overclock it, i was wondering if it might be better for me to just grab the i7-7700 and save $30.

File: GCC & VS2015.png (63KB, 1290x1130px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 1290x1130px

>>60517246
Compiling speed scales with more cores, go ryzen

is 52C a normal temperature for an R5 1600 if I'm fucking around in the BIOS?

>>60517246
If you need single core performance then intel is the way to go, but if you're doing any multithreading AMD has more performance per dollar.
An R5 1600 is on par or faster than a 7700K in anything that can use 12 threads or more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Purpose: Gaming/Work PC (rendering and the such)
Budget: 1300 Hard Cap though im sticking out of my soft cap of 1100.
Mexico
My goal is to lower the price, or make the pieces i use omre cost effective, as well as making sure im not doing anything wrong with the build, compability is fine, i mean like buying a worse piece that costs more.

is this a good card to get? or is there a better card at this price range? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-nitro-limited-edition-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-37l-sp.html

>>60516943
Just get a cheap Pentium prebuilt and you should be fine with those games on the igpu. If not you can always spend like $50 on a 750 ti off eBay or even a gt 1030. I used to play Gary's mod and cs:go on my Intel igpu when I had to rma my video card.

>>60517309
don't copy from the URM bar. Under the "Current Part List" will be a "permalink" thing. Copy THAT and post it here.

Cus following the link you posted will just take me to my build, not yours.

>>60517280
Considering my 4690k oc to 4.4ghz runs at the mid 40s when I'm in bios, that seems pretty high. I'm using a budget 212 evo.

>>60517339
>URM
URL

>>60517309
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Jdtyf
This is the build, sorry for that.
>>60517339
Thanks for pointing that out.

>>60517266
>compiling speed
i don't just limit myself to metaprogramming

>>60517299
are there any downsides or special considerations with using AMD? when i first built my PC some years ago, i think people were discouraging it.

>>60517369
>when i first built my PC some years ago, i think people were discouraging it.
Because the FX processor that preceeded Ryzen couldn't offer the same performance Intel did.
This time around, AMD made a new architecture, and it's kicking Intel's ass. There is no reason to go Intel until Intel can properly respond to the Ryzen threat.

>>60517230
>>60517189

thanks, guys!

>>60517369
>i don't just limit myself to metaprogramming
If an i7 performed fast at compiling, there is very very little change a 8 cores cpu won't be miles head.
> when i first built my PC some years ago, i think people were discouraging it.
It was because AMD's offerings were shit at the time, now it's the other way around/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3ycyr7
or wait for Ryzen 3s/dual core APU?

Wanting to build my first PC and settling on a budget of about $750-$800. Gotta have a wireless adapter for WiFi since Ethernet cable connection is not really feasible in my current situation.

>Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler (YD1400BBAEBOX)

>Motherboard
ASUS Prime B350-Plus AMD Ryzen AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 ATX B350 Motherboard

>Memory
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz C16 Memory Kit, Black

>Graphics card
MSI GAMING GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 DirectX 12 VR Ready (GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G)

>Hard drive
WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Desktop Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)

>Power supply
EVGA 600 B1, 80+ BRONZE 600W

>Case
Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Gaming Case

File: perfwatt_1920_1080.png (32KB, 500x690px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 500x690px

>>60517317
Depends if the phrase "too powerful" is something you'd scoff at or not.
It's by far the highest clocked and overclockable 580 but it's well into the diminishing returns area of polaris's limits only offering a ~10% performance improvement over a 480 let alone other 580s while increasing power draw by 40%.
Take that for what you will

Is 2400mhz ram acceptable for Ryzen. Looks like it won't effect gaming to much

>>60517425
You can get a 1600 and gtx 1070 for just over $800 but if you buy some components through Amazon warehouse you can bring it down to 800. That what I did. I saved like $100 just through buying from Amazon warehouse.

>>60517362
>7600k
Get an R5 1600 instead. Often cheaper, has 2 more cores, 8 more threads, reach the same / slightly higher FPS in games and doesn't hit 90+% usage in games. Also, it doesn't need a cooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

>>60517410
We have no idea when the R3 comes, though they might maybe reveal some info at computex in 9 days

>>60517410
for the price of that m.2, you could get a normal 2.5" 120 GB SSD, and a 1TB HDD.

Otherwise, looks fine. Waiting for Ryzen 3 is totally up to you. I would, but I can't make decisions for you.

>>60517462
Of course it's fine, higher is just if you want more performance but very rarely do you need it.

File: 1454033070060.jpg (332KB, 637x720px) Image search: [Google]

332KB, 637x720px

>I fell for the NVME meme
Fuck, what do I do with this useless pile of shit now?

>>60517462
There's always overclocking. My 1600mhz ddr3 has been running fine at 2133 mhz for years now.

suggestions for good brands for nvidia gpus? what is shit, what is good?

>>60517462
The difference between 2133mhz and 3600mhz ram is about 15% fps difference in the best case scenarios.

>>60517402
>>60517396
thanks guys, i really appreciate it.

is this a good motherboard for the Ryzen CPU? apparently, some reviewers say it doesn't actually support DDR4 2400 RAM; has this been fixed?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157761

>>60517532
It's not useless, it's just not much more useful than a sata drive.
As long as you didn't get a stupidly expensive one you shouldn't feel too bad. Everyone get's at least 1 meme part in their first build.

>>60515922
This, I already had to send a motherboard back for insane vrm buzzing

>>60517572
>apparently, some reviewers say it doesn't actually support DDR4 2400 RAM; has this been fixed?
it's overclocking problems on AM4 mobos, it's hard to reach high clocks with DDR4
But AMD's been working on an update for the past month now, they said it would be released on may and they already gave the update to motherboard manufacturers. Now motherboard manufacturers need to make new bioses for their motherboard that includes this updates, Asus posted a beta bios for their Crosshair VI on their forums two days ago so othes manufacturers should follow very soon.

Yes, it's a pretty good motherboard.

>>60517572
>has this been fixed?
Likely with a bios update. With Ryzen, you need to stay on top of the Bios updates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAelSOF6f0

>>60517572
Every ryzen board so far can support up to 2667MHz anything over that is iffy.

File: 1471674180999.jpg (106KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 1000x1000px

Supa computa desu!

Is it possible that Intel will release some kind of Kaby Lake refresh at Computex? Or will it solely be about Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X that not many people care about?

File: 1476588665198.jpg (55KB, 849x656px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 849x656px

>>60517626
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MqZj9W

>>60517626
stop shitposting amada

>>60517581
I got one nvme 128GB for the OS and one sata 1TB for the rest, but /g/ told me nvme actually booted slower and was only useful for bigass files and """"productivity"""".

>>60517634
Kaby-Lake X IS a kaby lake refresh
Well it's a rebrand even, just like kaby lake is a rebranded skylake

>>60517634
They've been talking about coffee lake for a while.

>>60517668
Yeah, but I mean in terms of things actual normal people use. Basically some kind of new replacement for the 7700k is what I'm interested in.
All the X stuff is just going to be super enthusiast like Broadwell-E was and will be like $1700.

>>60517690
It was my understanding Coffee Lake won't be until Late Q4.

Okay, so thanks to everyone's advice, I was able to bring the cost of my PC down to about $700.
Previous build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V7B7Fd
New build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nggKQV
What do you guys think? Is it still awful?

>>60517666
Any boot time difference will probably be down to the chipset of the motherboard but it is possible at least for it to be detrimental. not to any significant degree.
You fucked up going with that setup though, 128GB is just too small it's going to just be annoying using that. You'd be better off migrating to the 1TB and just selling the NVMe or keeping it as a game directory for the placebo effect.

So let me get this straight

Ryzen 5 1600 GeForce 1060 > Intel i5 7600k GeForce 1060 for gaymen?

>>60517772
You can drop down to a 1600 and it comes with a stock cooler.

File: 1464325721525.jpg (124KB, 633x758px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 633x758px

>order parts a week ago
>everything except psu arrives on time on tuesday
>psu hasnt even been shipped yet
>get shipping confirmation saying arrive on friday
>friday comes
>delayed to saturday or monday
>didnt arrive saturday
tomorrow

>>60517893
Post a picture in guts after you finish building it.

>>60517884
keep in mind i'm going to be abusing the CPU a lot. will the stock cooler suffice?

File: rx 580 vs gtx 1060.png (60KB, 1280x1768px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 1280x1768px

>>60517772
Could drive the price further down by going R5 1600

>>60517869
Yes.
Also, the RX 580 is also better in some games than the GTX 1060

>>60517507
I don't need the extra storage locally, the 10Gb network has a 10Gb-capable NAS for faster-than-SATA storage, hence the M.2 drive.

>>60517915
Yeah, Kyle from BitWit reviewed it on YouTube.

>>60517772
Drop down to 1600, there's basically no performance difference between the 2, especially if you overclock and get some faster ram from your mobo compatibility list. Ryzen responds surprisingly well with better ram, faster the better

>>60517960
>there's basically no performance difference between the 2
There is, as you can see here >>60517189
It's just that you need to overclock the R5 1600 to reaches 1600x clocks, though that might not be a given for anyone.

>>60517960
>>60517918
i have no plans to overclock.

before i drop down, what do you guys think of this combo deal?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3516822
i think it is cheaper than the 1600 + AB350 Pro 4 that i planned on getting

>>60517992
It's a less than 10% difference and I dont think a 1600 that can't OC to 3.6GHz even exists.

>>60518020
It is indeed, you should go for it

>>60518029
The 1600x boosts to 4GHz

what is this NVMe meme you are talking about?

You mean if I get a Samsung 960 instead of 850 SATA for better overall performance, it wouldn't make any difference?

>>60518036
>The 1600x boosts to 4GHz
And the 1600 boosts to 3.7, what's your point?
Ryzen only boosts when 4 or fewer threads are utilised. and the difference between a boosted 1600 and 1600X is even narrower than the base clocks.

>>60518064
It depends on what you do, but mostly yes.
There's some things with video editing where there's some improvement but for browsing, gaming or boot times there will be almost no measurable difference.

>>60518036
i want to go for it but it has such a gay name (Fatal1ty) and i don't plan on playing too many games anyways
ugh

>>60518064
Yes. You can see the difference for productivity stuff, but not gaming or OS loading.

>>60518070
The point is that you won't reach 1600x performances nor clocks with an R5 [email protected] although you'll come close

>>60518107
oh, and it also doesn't come with a stock cool. that means it's actuall more expensive, nice, i can stick with what i had

>>60518126
>The point is that you won't reach 1600x performances nor clocks with an R5 [email protected] although you'll come close
So your point is "basically no difference" wasn't explicit enough phrasing for your autism?

I have a 500gb ssd and a 2tb hdd. Should I use the hdd for picture and video storage and use the ssd for OS and games and major applications?

>>60518144
No, definitely the other way around, dont be stupid.

>>60518143
?
No idea why you are being aggressive in a thread where people help each other, but your autism doesn't have it's place here
Go back to facebook, reddit, wherever you want.

>>60518164
>No idea why you are being aggressive in a thread where people help each other
First day?
Also you have an absurdly low threshold for aggression.

File: asfggsg.png (23KB, 544x457px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 544x457px

I mainly use my pc for gaming but i feel like its been showing its age alot lately.
How do i best improve on this shit pc so i can run destiny 2 at 1080p60?
My budget is pretty tight at around 300-400€, so whats the most bang for my buck?

>>60518196
Not really, i'm just telling you to fuck off, i have no intent to discuss anything with you if you're just here to throw around insults as if it was some sort of competition
This isn't your garbage bin

>>60518162
Thanks m8

>>60518238
Oh geez, did i hurt your feelings?

>CPU
Ryzen 7 1700

>Mobo
Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

>Memory
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory

>Video Card
This is where I don't know what to do. I will primarily be using this for 3D modelling/ simulations (engineer). But I also like to do some light gaming (Dota, CS:Go, Fallout Series). Should I go with a cheaper video card like the RX 580 or go for the GTX 1070?

>Storage
Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

>PSU
EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

File: 1454249467174219343.jpg (36KB, 400x339px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 400x339px

>>60518238
>actually being this triggered by seeing text on a screen

>>60518232
That'll probably run any console port at 1080p60 unless the port is really shitty.
Go dual channel on the RAM though, that might be causing whatever problems you're seeing.

>>60518036
1600X actually boosts to 4.1 GHz on 1 or 2 cores

>>60518264
Drop the x370 mobo if you're not gonna SLI / Xfire & get a cheaper non-samsung SSD

Chances are your 3D modelling software is CUDA accelerated, in which case Nvidia might be a better option.

>>60518232
it's still a very good build. i'm sure it's going to run destiny fine, maybe you'll need to drop some settings down to high.
first get a nice cooler and overclock your cpu. next, if you still feel like spending money, get a new gpu. you should aim at at least 1070 since 1060/580 won't be a huge upgrade over 970

>>60515663
>>R5 1500x - generally all you need for 60fps with power to spare. No i5

>No i5

why?

>>60518303
I get a really unstable fps in games like battlefield and mass effect. would more/better RAM help with that ?

>>60518340
4 threads, that's why. Not enough for stable AAA gaming, is constantly as very very high CPU usages and during spikes it shits the bed (stutter). The 1500x has 8 threads in comparison.

File: dumb and dunmer.jpg (71KB, 500x594px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 500x594px

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3514482

Want to build an el cheapo gaming pc and I'm looking hard at this bundle, seems like a good deal, what do you guise think? Anybooty can recommend a cheap gpu, was thinking of going with a rx460 but idk.

>>60518309
Yeah something weird is going on with ryzen stocks
For some reason my 1600 will run at 3.4GHz stock with all cores stressed.

>>60518365
GTX 1050 / Ti outperforms the RX 460/560

>>60518357
>17% less single core performance from the AMD shit

Why do I need 8 threads for games?

>>60518349
It really depends on what you're seeing as "really unstable"
With specs like those the odd drop below 60 in BF1 isn't impossible depending on the settings but if you're getting really bad frame time jumps constantly then that may be what's causing it.
Mass effect is an astoundingly bad port though, from what i've seen it's unreasonably harsh on GPUs, so the RAM probably isn't doing that.

>>60517532
>>60517581
>not much more
You mean not any more at all.
NVMe has literally no speed improvement over SATA in real world usage for 99.9999% of people.
You have to be running a lot of VMs heavily, doing a lot of video editing where you can make use of a large scratch disk, and stuff like that to see any benefit over SATA.

>>60517869
As long as you overclock it, yes the 1600 is better than 4c/4t for gaming.

>>60518391
RX560 is better on some newer games, while still playing most older games fine. But if they are the same price, you should probably get the 1050Ti.

>>60518436
Because dropping to 20 fps equivolent frametimes for one out of every 100 frames is obnoxiously shitty.
And having to close out everything running in the background to just use your PC as a gaming console is not something most people do.

Don't ask dumb questions, please.

>>60518436
stuttering. did you not read his post?

>>60518436
>17% less single core performance from the AMD shit
Ah yes, and 200% higher multithreaded performance for AMD too!
I too can pull number out of my ass. At best the single core performance is 4% lower. What is much higher is how high can Intel CPUs clocks, but 17% higher single core? You should stop watching youtube videos, and i'm not saying that in a mean way.
>Why do I need 8 threads for games?
Because 4 threads is on it's knees? I mean, that's why the OP says "no i5" in the first place. Monitor CPU usage of the i5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

>>60518466
The Ryzen 5 1600 is one of four new Ryzen 5 processors released this month. Based on the AMD Zen architecture, which is comparable to Intel in terms of IPC, the Ryzen 5 1600 has six cores which is more than the vast majority of games are able to use (most games cannot use more than four cores).

>>60518472
His argument is shit running in the background.

>>60518313
Any recommendations for the mobo?

>>60518487
weren't they released last month?

>>60518440
Jumps below 30 quite alot actually.
>>60518336
A cooler to overclock the 4690k and some better RAM seems easy enough for a retard like me to get.

>>60518487
>His argument is shit running in the background.
which is a valid argument. I leave other shit running in the background when gaming. usually discord and aim (yes I still use it), and also at least one browser window open so I can look up things for the game.

All those benchmarks with intel winning slightly in FPS are on fresh windows installs with nothing running in the background. It's not a real world comparison.

>>60518501
msi b350m gaming pro/b350 PC mate, ASRock AB350 Pro4, Gigabyte - GA-AB350M, Asus PRIME B350-PLUS

Okay, ready to take the plunge on this for a total of $656.74 on Newegg:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNdtyf
(Does anyone know where I could find some Newegg coupons or promo codes?)

I just want to double check that this is a good PC for my use:
>I do a lot of resource-intensive programming
>I have 3 monitors, generally with a lot of applications open
>I might plan on running a dual boot with Windows 10 and Arch Linux
>I might recover my current 660Ti GPU from my last build to use as a graphics card in the meantime, but I plan on upgrading in some months to a 1070 or something equivalent
>Sometimes I play video games, sometimes I stream stuff unrelated to video games
My budget was originally $700-$800, so I am very happy to come in below that, I am very grateful for all the help so far!

>>60518514
You should swap it out for a 4790k and sell the 4690k.

4c/4t are just stutterfests in newer games. That's all there is to it.
But some shills will still try to convince poor anons to buy new 4c/4t for stupidly high prices these days just to have a stutterfest like you're getting.
Sad but true.

I wouldn't buy new RAM for such an old platform. It won't help as much as doubling your thread count will.

>>60518487
>His argument is shit running in the background.
No. 4 threads shits the bed period, no need to have shit running in the background. The video shown in >>60518476 are made in fresh benchmark stations, with nothing running in the background.

>>60518514
>Jumps below 30 quite a lot actually.
In BF1?
Are you running DX12? Because that'll do that.

>>60518552
Could downgrade the PSU to a 600/650w, you won't use anywhere near 750w

>>60518552
>I might recover my current 660Ti GPU from my last build to use as a graphics card in the meantime
Just in case you dont know, you will -have- to do that.
Ryzen has no integrated graphics.

i was able to get rid of my i3 3220
by buying a 50 euro i5 3570

>>60518571
Never thought dx12 would impact it that much. I'll try and turn it down next time.

>>60515663
Is a 1060 3gb fine as budget GPU? I only mostly play CSGO, Dota 2 and some max payne, Yuri's revenge, brood war, etc other older games.

>>60518687
>Is a 1060 3gb fine as budget GPU?
yes, though I'd personally get an RX470/570 instead

>>60515663
Quick question bros.

I'm rebuilding an old X58 PC, and will be replacing the i7 920 with a Xeon X5675.

Will the CoolerMaster 212X work well for it?

Also bonus question, what GPU should I use? Usage will be old games (2008-2012) and emulators.

>>60518687
yeah. my friend has a zotac mini gtx 1060 3gb and he runs all the games we play just fine. even unoptimized shit like battlegrounds runs fine for him at high settings. nvidia also has much, much better support for indie titles from my experience.

File: 1f1ae2ddxddsh3d.png (76KB, 602x453px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 602x453px

>>60518672
It's pretty bad on nvidia cards in general but apparently the 970 should be fine.
Try it anyway though. Other than that, what is your ram situation?
How many sticks do your have and what speed are they rated for?

>>60518553
Wouldnt it be possible to find a newer cpu in the same pricerange? or is the 4790k just whats compatible with my mobo?

>>60518687
If you mostly play CSGO and Dota2, just get an RX560 or 1050Ti. Those will both get 150+fps if I'm not mistaken.
I know the RX570 gets like 250fps in CSGO at 1440p, so yeah.

The 1060 3GB is terrible, terrible value. The RX570 is the same price and so much better.

>>60518732
Because the DX12 uses more VRAM and Nvidia cards shit themselves when they are VRAM starved.

>>60518742
They won't use DDR3 RAM and you will need a new motheroboard is the problem.
But yeah you can get a 1600+motherboard for the price of the 4790k alone.

>>60518699
Why? don't they have higher wattage? Which would require a high watt psu?


>>60518717
Thanks

>>60518763
>Why?
Better value, slightly better performance
>don't they have higher wattage? Which would require a high watt psu?
I've only heard of that with the RX480/580 and even then most PSU's will support it.

>>60518763
>Why? don't they have higher wattage? Which would require a high watt psu?

yeah. the 580 alone uses as much power as a gtx 1080 ti under full load. if you have a peasant tier psu or even a borderline peasant tier cpu i wouldn't risk it. same goes for processor.

>>60518763
You're not going to save much by going lower than 500watts and you can run almost anything on a 500watt PSU.

>>60518632
really? then why does the motherboard have display outputs

>>60518553
>>60518742
meh i wouldn't waste money on old platform. used i7 is still ~300$ and ram doesn't benefit that much.
just get a cooler and possibly a gpu since you can just re use them in a new build in the future.

>>60518829
Compatibility with future CPUs that will have integrated graphics.

>>60518763
I'm running a 500w PSU with a OC'd 280w GPU. In comparison, the RX 580 uses around 220w. They don't need high wattage PSUs.

File: freeAssange.png (321KB, 519x682px) Image search: [Google]

321KB, 519x682px

>>60516872
bump as info. Got one recently since it's a good offer imo.

>>60518576
is it alright if i grab a bronze-certified PSU instead of a gold one?

File: ram.png (16KB, 437x471px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 437x471px

>>60518732
Don't know what else to show you.
>>60518761
so i need to find a 4790k to get any kind of upgrade with my current setup?
How would upgrading my RAM to something with dual channels like earlier suggested help?

>>60518875
This is just efficiency stuff. It won't change anything except how much power will the PSU take from the wall.

/g/, how fucked am i?

Basically I rebuilt my pc after receiving an RMA'd mobo. I tested it breadboarded, worked out fine. Then, i rebuilt everything in the case, graphics card included, and like an utter fucking brainlet i plugged it directly into a wall outlet and it tripped the circuit breaker.

PSU no surprise is dead. Luckily I have warranty, but that's not what i'm scared about. Give it to me straight /g/, what are the chances that my entire setup - mobo, cpu, memory, most importantly, graphics card, are fried because of this fuckup? Do Corsair PSU's have any safeguards to this kind of thing, or Gigabyte mobo's?

note: the PSU was a CX750M.

>>60518901
its all gone

>>60518943

do you really think so? fuckkkk

>>60518969
its dead jim

>>60518969
memory and storage might be fine

btw anyone here want to buy an i7 sandybridge with very mild use over a four year period?

>>60518883
Yeah you've only got one stick. Sometimes people have 2 sticks of ram that they just put in wrong and they run in single channel mode.
There's a few videos hanging around that show the difference between single and dual channel ram for gaming but here's one for the game you're talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XmCE7Qfbt4

>>60518976

just fucking kill me now

i dont think msi does warranty which is the part that kills me, 980 was fucking 450 bucks, other shit can be rma'd

>>60518901
What is the proper sequence of events to avoid this?

Was the mobo the likely culprit, or the PSU?

>>60518901
>CX750M

isn't that their cheapest lineup of psu? if so then you're probably fucked

What do I need nvme ssd for?

>i plugged it directly into a wall outlet
How else would plug it in?

>>60519081
shoving it up your ass as a replacement dildo.

>>60519091
Power strip with surge protector I assume.

>>60519071

im not really sure, i believe it was around 90 bucks

>>60519063

i plugged it straight into the outlet. i thought because it was working fine breadboarded that nothing would be a problem but my retarded brain didn't register how much power a 980 gtx requires. i imagine if i plugged it into a power strip it would've been fine as thats how i had it setup before and it was fine

im actually so sad as ive been waiting almost 2 months now after my mobo broke, now if my graphics card is dead im just done with pc use indefinitely as i cant afford a new one

so is that mitx ryzen board garbo or what?

>>60519125
garbo

>>60519125
garbage. wait for others. Don't touch Biostar.

Is this a shitty board for Ryzen?

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B350M-MORTAR-ARCTIC-Retail/dp/B06Y67TLSL/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1495395036&sr=8-8&keywords=msi+mortar

>>60519020
Quite the difference.

I think i will get a cooler and clock my cpu and i might consider getting abit more ram to run in dual.
This should be pretty cheap for now until i can afford a more solid solution.
Thanks for the help to everyone involved.

>>60518829
He's right, if you try to boot with Ryzen with no GPU you will get a beep error

>>60519161
Decent board. Can't say anything against it. It is fairly new though. Only a few weeks old at most.

>>60519161
you can find better for cheaper.
go pcpartpicker.

>>60519153
how long do you think ill be waiting?

>>60519116
Well fuck anon, good luck.

>>60516512
I suggest buying stuff from Dataleks.lv if you're in Riga. m79.lv is decent as well. They seem to have the best prices unlike some of the general consumer electronics department stores. Might have to wait a few days until your stuff arrives, but they accept cash which is nice.

silly question, but still - I have 8gb of Crucial Ballistix RAM (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148718). I want to upgrade to 16gb, but can't find another stick just like this anywhere locally (not keen on paying for shipping).

can I just stick another 8gb DD3 stick alongside it and expect it to work normally, or does it have to be the same kind of stick? from what I can gather this one current stick is running at 800mhz, is that all that matters for the 2nd stick?

Getting ready to order, anything I should change/look into?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HGgrsJ

>>60519261
oh, Speccy says 800mhz so that probably means 1600, no? DDR and all that.

>>60519290
>i5 6500
Ah yes you have a lot of informations to get, read
>>60517506
Either go R5 1500x or R5 1600. 1500x if 1600 is out of your budget but really, any gamer should try to get the 1600 at the very least because of how much performance it offers for the price.
1500x although it has only 4 cores like i5 is still good because it has SMT (Hyperthreading), so more room left while gaming.

Also, two RAM sticks would be ideal in order to get dual channel

>>60519290
>small ssd + hdd meme
>i5
>wtf motherboard
>single memory stick
go ahead and order it

>>60519261
RAM mixing is pretty finicky but mostly functional.
stick to same voltages and try to get the same latencies but generally the faster ram will just slow down to match the slower one.
You probably will be stuck at default DDR3 speeds though, but this should still have significantly more bandwidth than a single channel running at presumably 1600MHz base don what you said

>>60519290
Don't listen to the AMD drone >>60519354.

I would get 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB.

>>60519375
oh, so it downclocks. nice. guess i'll just get an 8gb stick from the same brand and hopefully they work together.

File: 1481319029194.png (153KB, 898x790px) Image search: [Google]

153KB, 898x790px

>>60519396

>>60519410
Brand is irrelevant but be mindful of voltages, that will be the most make or break situation here.
Honestly it would probably be easier to get a dual channel kit and sell your 8GB stick.
If you go for 2x4GB you probably won't even make much of a loss

>Fell for the Crossfire meme on my last build
>Crossfired 2 RX480s and the performance was horrendous
So how's SLI in comparison?
Just want to know, I have no intention of buying ANOTHER 1080ti.

>>60519498
Pretty much the same.
Dual GPU setups have been getting worse and worse recently.

can anybody recommend me a good Ryzen R7 1800x build with a GTX 1080? budget at about 1200

>>60519498
Multi cpu setups are always garbage period.
Just sell that crap and get a better card.

>>60519584
I'd recommend not getting the 1800X just like everyone else.
It's only worth it if you're deathly afraid of overclocking.
1700 or 1600 are the most recommended Ryzen processors.

>>60519396
>buy this inferior product because of the brand

>>60519831
But that's what you're doing.

Any budget builder got their rams to 3200mhz on their ryzen builds yet?
Any ram listed as running at 3200mhz on any motherboard qvl is overpriced asf,
really wanna find out which is the holy grail of budget mobo/ram for my r5 1600.

Wanted to put together a mid range build for about 800. I'm not sure which version of the 580 to get or the obligatory wait for vega. Also was reading around that ryzen has issues with certain ram timings but I'm not 100% on that so I didn't know if I should pick up the 3200 right now or not.
I have 2 1080@60 monitors for now and will probably buy nicer ones down the line.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PR4YYr
Is there anything I should change?

>>60519847
>Ryzen is proven better than Intel's i5 and i7 line up
>hurr, it's inferior to almighty Intel
Someone's been drinking the kool aid of the Intel worshiping cult

>>60519882
>Someone's been drinking the kool aid of the Intel worshiping cult
Oh the irony.

>>60519876
add a small 120gb SSD for a boot drive. Thank me later.

>>60519907
>intel cult worshiper
I bet you think Scientology is a legit religion

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrcF9W

r8 and h8

w8ing for Vega currently

might go down on the PSU, but that depends on Vega

>>60519928
t. amd cult worshipper

>>60519868
There's some relatively cheap corsair vengeance 3200MHz sticks that can get to 3200MHz on some cheaper boards like the Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4.

>>60519909
Oh right that's a thing I forgot to add on. I was gonna get a 240gb zotac ssd for 70 bucks but it never restocked and every 240gb ssd is like 90+

>>60519940
I just like whatever offers the best performance for the money. Which right now is AMD Ryzen. Before Ryzen 5 came out, I was considering an Intel Core i5 7500 build.

>>60519939
i'd just buy a gtx 1070. i upgraded from a 390 to a 1070 3 months ago and the experience has been top notch. 9/10, would buy again.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3482618

here's a r8 list pls

it's about time I swap out this AMD A8 APU shit

>>60519946
That is the motherboard i'm looking into buying but the only 2x8gb ram that is listed there is g.skill flare x which is a 3200mhz cas 14 ram at 210$.

>>60519939
Go to 650w you dumbass.
Vega can't possibly use enough power to need 850w in that system and still be coolable.
Even 650w is overkill but it's usually cheap

Which ~500 GB SSD gents?

>>60520041
You're either not looking at that motherboard or you're blind because there are 6 kits listed in the QVL that officially support up to 3200MHz
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory

>>60517056
M.2 is a form factor that can offer similar speeds to a SATA equivalent, like the Samsung 850 Evo which comes in 2.5" SATA III and in M.2 2280, and are both going to have similar read/write speeds because the speed of that is based on SATA. NVMe M.2 drives like the Samsung 960 Pro utilize NVMe infrastructure within M.2 form factors to claim 30Gb/s bandwidth that you'll never see and is less than a second faster than a SATA III ssd for boot times.

>>60520054
The one that's next on sale.

>>60520054
the cheapest one. any ssd is going to max out SATA speeds and boot times will be the same across the board.

>>60517666
>but /g/ told me nvme actually booted slower
Don't trust /g/tards with knowing their shit. NVMe is faster than SATA, but it'll never be noticable in regular conditions and will just he a few half seconds faster than a SATA SSD.

>>60520092
CMD32GX4M4B3200C16 (Samsung-B)
CMK32GX4M4B3200C16 (Samsung-B)
CMD32GX4M4B3200C16 (Hynix-M)
are all 4x8gb kits. Is the 2x8gb version
CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 actually the
exact same ram?
>there are 6 kits listed in the QVL that officially support up to 3200MHz
I was talking strictly about 2x8gb kits,
because i am not sure if the the 4x8gb
Vengeance LPX is the exact same ram
as the 2x8gb version just with double the
amount of rams.

File: Screen Shot 2017-05-21 at 5.45.50 PM.png (109KB, 828x711px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 828x711px

how does this look guys? I am not looking to spend a ton but not sure I am going overboard

>>60520054
I got a 500gb (~465 actual GB )samsung 850 m.2 on black friday for around $125. I've seen them for around $150, like this one; http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-850-EVO-2-5-500GB-SATA-III-3-D-Vertical-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-/381669140839?hash=item58dd40e967:g:ZJ4AAOSwXeJYD1ny

>>60520208
>>60520054
This one is a 2.5" factor tho, just a heads up.

>>60519011
Yes.

>>60520190
No you're right those are different things.
They might be the same but they might not be, so i can understand the confusion.

>>60520195
I just got here like 30 minutes ago, but all the benchmarks and reviews look like AMD's Ryzen CPUs really are better.

It seems the AMD fanboys are right, for the time being.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvwWTQKCZs

I'm going to build a Ryzen system now to upgrade my old AMD A8 APU shit.

Can you fit an ATX power supply in that mini-ITX case?

File: 1489013441571.jpg (32KB, 638x480px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 638x480px

Hey, friend of >>60514728 here. Unfortunately for those trying to tweak the build, he's got half of his parts already in, since he's been getting shit a little at a time. He hasn't gotten the CPU/motherboard yet, so that can still be changed, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't shelled out for the possibly-unneeded capture card yet, either.

In the meantime, you guys may as well have a giggle at the cheapo rig I spent my tax return on (and am currently using), so you can maybe understand why he picked half of what he did. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YmLYYr

Keep in mind that most of this was a Newegg bundle, which is why there's only 1x8 GB RAM and there's a literally who PSU that came with the case. Everything else comes down to me not really knowing what I was doing (a recurring theme around here, it seems) and using the bundle as the laziest way possible to make sure everything would work together.

>>60515731
Dump the bitch. By paying for her medical bills you are letting her win the shit test.

>>60520195 if you have a budget of $800 here you go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MRq9Yr. Replace the 1500X for the 1400 if you want to compromise for a lower price

>>60520452
is that motherboard wifi enabled? My apartment sucks and my connection is my bathroom lol

>>60520266
im not sure honestly. this is my first time at trying to build a pc

>>60520233
what's your offer

>>60520507
Im sorry, no. Youre going to have to buy a wireless adapter.

File: question....png (278KB, 706x412px) Image search: [Google]

278KB, 706x412px

Recommend me a good 120hz 1080p (g-sync optional) 27" monitor please

>>60515731
>my gf destroyed my pc
>my gf needs a psycho therapy
>i can't afford a v-belt
Jesus Christ.. what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>60520631
that's a okay thank you very much

Someone can tell me what i can do with 150eur? i need make an entremely cheap build
just for dota 2 and cs go

Best X370 motherboard? Is it the crosshair VI?

>>60520644
ASUS VG248QE ?

>>60520707
save your money

this is about the cheapest you should go.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jky9Yr
don't know what your country's part sellers are though. Might be cheaper or more expensive.

Or just wait for ryzen 3 with onboard graphics.

>>60520874
>100 series skylake motherboard with a kaby lake CPU
only if you have a Skylake processor to flash to bios. You want either a B250, H270 or Z270 chipset motherboard. Those will support the G4560 without a Bios update.

is newegg shoprunner a scam and will i actually get my parts in 2 days

File: PO TAY TOES.jpg (108KB, 1252x1252px) Image search: [Google]

108KB, 1252x1252px

>pg248q is no longer carried by amazon
Why?
I want a fast-refresh 1080p (NOT 1440) TN monitor with g-sync & 3d-capability you fuckers
Lost themselves a sale.

>>60520874
>>60520909
Here. I fixed it.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wtq9Yr

Okay. Final post before i pull the trigger. Using list for a complete build except for monitor, case and keyboard/mouse.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLj43F

>>60520937
what case?

>>60520874
And buy older parts? or its just bullshit? i see on yt a lot of videos making 150 dollars,not eur,so more cheapo

>>60520930
is that how it works? Need a skylake? Well that's pretty bullshit but at least the anon can get a mobo that will support 2400 Mhz ram.

>>60520937
You can cheapen out a bit on PSU for bronze and get a b350 mobo that can overclock.
Also consider 4gb 570 over 580 because it is better value for money.

>>60520937
You don't want an A320 chipset motherboard. At least get a B350 board. 320 mobos aren't capable of overclocking.

>>60520644
Well shit if you don't want g-sync (because you're a madman) just get the asus 278- they seem to have the best monitor software, at least on a couple of their 1440 offerings.

>>60520978
read the compatibility issues on your build. You would need another CPU just to flash the motherboard to be able to use the G4560

>>60520961
Ammo can

>>60520986
>>60520988
Thanks

>>60520916
ASUS VG248QE?

>>60521013
Doesn't have g-sync but g-sync is a meme anyways

>>60521010
>Ammo can
neat but aren't you worried about airflow?

>>60520937
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZgHQvV

>>60520707
At that kind of price point you can pretty much only go with a used office PC off ebay.

>>60521037
get a 80+ Bronze semi-modular PSU. I believe Seasonic has a 520 watt unit for around $52.
Also add a 120 GB SSD as a boot drive, generally around $50.

Looks good otherwise.

>>60521034
I cam drill holes and mount fans for that

>>60520971
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YnrLLD
this is the cheapest I would go brand new in america. Parts are less expensive in america than europe.

You are pretty much forced to buy used if you want to stay under 150 euros. To be honest if I wanted to build a cheapo PC I would get a 1500x and an actual graphics card. Save up to buy something actually semi decent. You will be dissapointed if you buy shit tier parts just to fit some made up budget.

>>60521028
>g-sync is a meme
That is the opposite of everything I've heard.

>>60521037
Thanks that looks solid for what i posted. Based on this what types of games and setting would i be able to run?

>>60521107
probably any AAA title you threw at it.

>>60515663
Can we add SSD tiers to the OP as well?
>3D-NAND MLC - higher write endurance
>Planar NAND MLC - high write endurance
>3D-NAND TLC+ eSLC/DRAM cache - moderate write endurance, higher burst speed
>3D-NAND TLC + MLC/Flash cache - moderate write endurance, lower burst speed
>Planar NAND TLC + eSLC/DRAM/MLC/Flash cache - low write endurance, high burst speed

Building a new PC.
Should I get an SSD?
Or is it a meme, more trouble than it's worth?

>>60521225
getting a small 120gb ssd for the operating system is a godsend with how quick it boots. Add a normal 1TB or higher HDD for actual storage though.

>>60521225
they're not a meme, I just have an SSHD though

>>60521037
dumb build. for not much more he can get a gtx 1070 and you can find win10 keys for like $20 in places. i got my one for $20.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b3kR9W

just put in the case he needs. any $30 case should do unless you need 10 fan slots and all this other meme shit.

>>60521247
>>60521248
Is fucking around with directories to get docs/downloads/etc to go outside the OS drive a pain in w10?

Does having a second monitor influence fps by alot? Let's say I play bf1 fullscreen on one monitor while in the other im watching animu, does that will impact performance?

>>60520994
>>60520769
is asus a good manufacturer on monitors?

>>60520644
>1080p
>27"
Why

>>60521328
Yes

>>60521328
For IPS they're just as bad as everyone else- they're all using the same low-QC panel, & they can all be nitpicked for construction quality.
Asus just has a better software GUI & buttons (analog), and in my opinion they don't go overboard with the GAMURGEER bullshit.

They're no DELL/HP but they aren't ACER either.

>>60521313
It still doubles the resolution you're rendering with the GPU, so it might not be very demanding normally but if you're trying to watch that animu in 4k it'll still tank your card.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YDdfcc
Put together quickly, could probably change the CPU. Will be paired with a 1440p gsync monitor and purpose of the build is mostly playing blizzard games.

>>60521429
>playing blizzard games.
Dunno if that could run Destiny 2 comfortably.

>>60521429
You can change the CPU later, since you're going for an 1151 mobo. But it will bottleneck you until you do so.
You might want to upgrade the PSU if you're planning to upgrade the CPU/GPU later, but 650 is probably fine until you start reaching 1080ti or SLI levels of powerdraw.

>>60521429
You're paying too much for the motherboard, too little for the CPU, too much for the PSU, too much on the GPU, and add an SSD boot drive.

>>60521203
No because it makes no difference.

>>60521429
here. Fixed.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Myz9Yr

>>60521557
>But it will bottleneck you until you do so
Not at 1440p.
A 1060 will be brought down to g4560 levels at that resolution in AAA games and gsync should make sub 60fps bearable.
It's actually not too bad a setup

>>60521557
>650 is probably fine until you start reaching 1080ti or SLI levels of power draw.
Stop being a retard, 650 is more than enough for SLI or a single 1080ti so it's several orders of magnitude more than "probably fine" for this laptop tier system

>>60521757
>he runs his PSUs at >50% usage
The fuck are you doing anon?

Do i really need a 500 GB flash drive? Or should i just get a 120/240 GB for OS/browsers/important stuff

>>60518901
>>60518943
>>60518975
>>60519071
I have a somewhat similar situation.
My house was struck by lightning shortly after all my warranty was up. I had my computer plugged into a surge protector.
Upon powering on, it would flash the lights on the Mobo and everything taking USB power. I tested the psu and it powers on for a second, then clicks and turns off. It won't power back up unless the cord is replugged. Not even when flipping the power toggle.

My psu was an EVGA supernova 750 G2, which jonnyguru said is one of the good EVGAs.
Am I correct in assuming the psu is shot?
So you think it took anything else with it?

Building a steam machine for around the cost of a ps4

Silverstone sst-st30sf 300w power supply
Toshiba p300 1tb 3.5 inch HDD
Silverstone sst-ml05b case
8gb crucial ddr3 ram
Asrock qc5000m-itx/pH motherboard
Geforce GT 1030

Really cheap build just looking for opinions mostly the onboard CPU of the mobo will it bottleneck the gpu? Anyone any experience with this case it looks really compact will I fit all this shit in it?

Will be playing mostly ps3 era games on a HD ready 720p tv I have in the living room

>>60521786
>flash drive
Im fucking tired jesus. I mean ssd

>>60521814
Same difference.