/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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First for best keyboard layout

>>60513762
That backspace is too small. If it had a shorter left shift instead that would've been better. Also that enter key is still too small. Microsoft had the right idea and gave all their ISO keyboards an extra 1u column

Looks like Ducky has released firmware version 1.16 for backlit Ducky One fullsize keyboards, upgrading the macro functionality to Ducky Macro 2.0. Finally I can have media keys.

>>60513754
Just bought a Redragon Vara for €35. Did I do good ?
Will be my first ever mechanical keyboard.

>>60513801
that's nice. I wish they had some sort of software though that would make it easier to set complex macros for trading in MMOs

>>60513799
It's really not a problem if you don't make too many mistakes.
Also, even if you do accidentally press back slash while going for backspace, you can just remove it by pressing backspace a few more times whereas putting it on top/left of a smaller enter key might have worse consequences if you do happen to press it accidentally

I'm going to replace some broken switches on my Cherry MX board and I don't really have that much experience soldering.
Anything I need to know before I break something?

>>60513818
Yeah its too bad that their dedicated software is only for the Shine 6 line of keyboards.I think even that software is only for accessing the full 16.8 million colour spectrum and macros have to be done with the hardware.

>>60513754
I wish Mistel's Broccoli keyboard had a 2.25+1.25 and 2.75 split spacebar instead of 3 and 3.25 with stabilisers that are different from existing 3u ones so you can't use the aftermarket PBT 3u spacebars from Taobao.

>Assderp selling 120-packs of Gateron switches at ~21c/switch plus garbage shipping and a probably three month wait
>when KBDfans sells 20-packs at 20c/switch with flat rate $5 shipping and a 2-3 week wait
Why does this site exist anymore other than for muh exclusive keycaps?

Anyone bought a board with this year's revised Matias switches? I wonder if they already fixed that god-awful key chatter issue.

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whats the best keyboard to complement a white ec1-a mouse?

>>60514425
Ducky Shine 6 Snow White Edition

>>60514425
A white Ducky One

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speaking of split keyboards, I'm this close to buying this one. it's pretty much god-tier in my eyes after doing a ton of research. anyone have one? what's it like?

>>60513762
The only thing about using my europoor friends keyboard that throws me off is the small backspace. I'm pretty in to the big ass enter key.

>>60513805
That shit has knock off switches doesn't it? Can't say for sure, report back how it feels when you get it though.

make up my mind for me /mkg

Clear red or black?

>>60515228
clear

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>>60513754
If anyone wants to be real hardcore and leave humanity behind I suggest Advantage Kinesis and learn Dvorak.

Oh wait, you're all pussies who would rather buy a shit keyboard that is a familiar rectangular shape. You still hunt and peck for keys and don't type with all four fingers. Embarrassing.

>>60515228
clear

>>60515252
>>60515289
That big of a difference between then actuation?

>>60515228
Clear if Cherry, black if Gateron

>>60515384
Why the black over the reds for gateron?

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>>60515274
>i'm too good for qwerty

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>tfw I just want a brown mechanical keyboard with a few macro keys and media keys
>almost nothing to choose from

Logitech G710+ seems like the best choice. K95 platinum looks OK too I guess, but it's almost double the price. Is it worth?

>>60515442
Because I like springs in the 60-70g bottom out range

>>60515274
>>60515645
The G710+ is fine but looks gamery and is a tad wide because of the slanted wing-like edges and inclusion of macro keys. Media keys are not mechanical but work well and the audio volume scroll is great. The glossy black plastic around the keys does get a bit grimey over time though.

Have you looked at Das Keyboard models such as the Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate? Corsair K70 (RGB or non-RGB) is another great one to consider.

>>60515769
Neither of those have dedicated macro keys. Being able to open programs and dictionaries with the press of 1 button is a quality of life I refuse to be without.

>>60515833
Sounds like you need the keyboard in the OP

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>>60515833

>Budget
Under $150 CAD

>Location (continent at least)
Canada

>Preferred switch type
Blue

>Layout
Whatever the fuck standard American is

>Form factor
Tenkeyless

>Backlight
Not needed

>Previous/current keyboards
Razer Blackwidow (early model with cherry switches)

>>60516100
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

or

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/87-keys-mechanical-keyboard-TKL-tenkeyless-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-blue-red-87-compact/32285359058.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DOLCH-thick-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-side-printed-keycaps-gh60-poker-87-104keycaps-108keys/32791274444.html

>>60516129
That looks great but I've never bought from chinkbay, is it safe? Should I be using a burner card or nah?

>>60516157
it's safe

>>60515900
>>60515991
No numpad no buy.

>>60513805
If you like the clicky sound then yes. High pitch sound of outemu blue sure sound nice but because of that I brought cherry mx brown instead.

>>60516100

If you're into white keyboards: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1567

It's a pretty good board. Well built.

Things that bother you about mechanical keyboards, or the community?

For me it's primarily artisans and their cost. A lot of them look pretty bad from an artistic standpoint and seem to be turning into a way for a few people to make a quick buck. Some have been creating their own stockpiles of the rarer ones, making it difficult for others in general to obtain their own copies...

That and how difficult it is to get a lot of keysets/boards/artisans, even if you have the $$$ to pay for them. I've come to accept the fact that a lot of the keysets I want will largely be unavailable to me because I don't want to be spending so much of my disposable income on these things.

>>60515833
Ah, fair enough, missed the dedicated macro keys part.

>>60516420
I just wish more people were willing to make boards on a commission basis rather than only doing group buys. Sure it costs more but I'd happily pay the premium for availability.

>>60516420
>muh overpriced sleeved cables
>muh overpriced unergonomic DSA keycaps
>muh keycap designer
>muh flipped spacebar
>muh LEDs
>muh artisans
>muh overpriced aluminium cases
>muh overpriced wooden wrist rests
I'm pretty sure I missed a lot more.

>>60516712
what's wrong with wooden wrist rests

>>60516732
Wrist rests are bad for your wrists, they should be hovering about an inch above your keycaps.

>>60516732
The overpriced slab of wood part.

>>60516746
they're less bad for you than bad posture and no wrist rest though and I'm not gonna hover my hands above my keyboard

>>60516752
they cost like $30 at most

>>60516712
>>muh flipped spacebar
anon...

Are there any mechanical keyboards like the razer orbweaver? Or something similar? I'd like to use it for gaymin since it seems more ergonomic but I don't want shit build quality

>>60516959
>shit quality guns
>horrible mouse
>not even good lasers
Horrible picture my man

Looking for something cheap I can take outside with me (for laptop use), that I will not worry about too much.
1) Budget
Would prefer <80$

2) Location
Europe

3) Preffered switch type
Have only ever used Black Cherry MX (on a SteelSeries 7G), really prefer silent as it's going to be for outside use, and I'm used to that anyway.
Will be used for typing 95% of the time so I guess something tactile would be good? (have not used a tacticle keyboard before)

4) Layout
QWERTY

5) Form factor
<80%, looking for something as small as possible

6) Backlight
Would prefer not to have a backlight, but don't really care.

7) Previous/current keyboard
I am happy with the 7G (and it has served me nicely for well over 5 years, only spacebar having slight issues sometimes), but I'm open to suggestions, as I have not tried anything else.

>>60516746
why so? I'm not really educated on the matter

>>60517135
don't listen to the autistic neckbeards ITT. as long as you're not straining your wrists/fingers and you're not putting pressure on your wrists while typing you're good to go.

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>>60516746
>wrists should be hovering about an inch above your keycaps
that's absurd

>>60514425
White Pok3r or a White HHKB

Debating joining the massdrop for the v60 Matias Mini. Only have experience with MX blues and browns so far. How clicky are the Matias Click switches?

>>60513754
Is it possible to get this layout without the split.

>>60517272
not without going custom. the closest would be a 75% layout keyboard plus a left hand side numpad or macro pad.

>>60515833
Some Ducky and Cooler Master keyboards have 4 macro keys above the numpad that you can program however you want. The keyboards are also programmable so if you want more macro keys it is possible. I didn't need pause break so I used it as a macro.

>>60517272
There are the redscarf series of keyboards, but the guy that makes them had a baby, so he isn't making them anymore.

>>60515274
>"hit the angled key!"
>NIGGA ALL THE KEYS IS ANGLED

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>>60515274
>dvorak
>not colemak
nice meme

>>60517256
Consider replying kindly to this post

>Budget
$150 USD

>Location
United States

>Preffered Switch Type
Blue Cherry MX

>Layout
Standard QWERTY keyboard

>Form Factor
Full Size

>Backlight
Preferred but not absolutely necessary

>Previous/Current Keyboards
[spoiler] Rosewill RK-8100 [/spoiler]
First time getting a nice keyboard

>>60519547
>Full Size
ugh

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/text/fullsize%20fags%20btfo/

>>60519547
CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro L

>>60514490
I don't know from split ergos but I love the switches.

>>60518168
Can't be arst to learn it.

>>60520466
Thanks anon, I'll probably be going with your recommendation.

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>>60513754
>thread topic
another excuse to post my work-in-progress split memeboard case I guess

On a completely separate note, how are outemu blue switches? They look pretty decent in theory, like a slightly cheaper gateron blue. But is there an issue with them in practice?

I bought a corsair K70 with cherry brown, how fucked am I?

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>>60513754
>budget
$150 or less
>location
USA (west)
>switch type
Cherry MX Blue
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form Factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlight
No thanks
>previous keyboard
dell l100

something white or beige would be nice

>>60521463
Extremely. The ghost of Dennis Ritchie will now haunt your windows PC deleting random files. The only way to get rid of him is to wait until he discovers every windows exploit. Or you can just install Solaris.

>>60521771
Ducky One non backlit version

>budget
$90 or less
>location
USA
>switch type
Cherry MX Blue, Brown or Clear
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form Factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlight
Doesn't matter but prefer it
>previous keyboard
Razer BW

Black or white case is fine.

>>60521921
Ducky One non backlit version

>>60520923
if you want a built in numpad, isn't masterkeys pro m big enough for you

>>60521992
Hmm, what about for a backlit?

The keyboard is a little over-budget right now due to rent.

Is the Anne Pro any good even though it's a 60%?

>>60521921
ww.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>>60522053
the backlit version is 99 bucks, but the one with out it is $90. If you want something cheaper then get a royal kludge tkl

>>60522071
Is the quality the same as the one from Originative?

>>60522193
Its the same one dumbass

>>60522193
yes. it most likely comes from the same manufacturer with the case and keycaps and all. the seller is legit.

>>60522283
Aye, gonna buy that one then. Thanks a lot!

Ducky LEDs suck dick. Would not recommend.

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Mechanical keyboards are memes, the microsoft ergo sculpt is objectively better: less key travel, less key noise, less actuation force, split design, tilted ergonomic layout.

>>60524063
>that constant bottom-out impact because nothing to slow you down after dome collapse

Enjoy your tendonitis.

>>60513754
what is a good first mech. keyboard to get?

I don't have desktop, only laptops, but I do a lot of typing and I hate the keyboards on the laptops

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>>60524063
if it's more than a couple of years old it's objectively trash

>>60524231
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>>60524231
Do you prefer board with or without numpad? With or without clicky sound?

But if you typing a lot you might need some tactile switches, blue or brown (or clear) might suit your need.

>>60524601
regardless of what he thinks he prefers he shouldn't have a numpad, at least it should be a masterkeys pro m not a fullsize board. if he's literally an accountant or something like that he can get a standalone numpad.

>>60519547

Note that if you're planning on buying DSA or SA keysets you will be paying extra $$$ for the numpad keyset.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/25045

>>60524601
without numpad

i have my own den so doesn't matter if makes sound or not

thanks for the input, by the way

>>60524601
and I"m sorry for being so naive, but what do the colours mean?

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>>60524694
Keyswitch manufacturers use different colors of plastic to visually distinguish different switch models. Otherwise they'd all look the same despite varied internal construction.

He's referring to Cherry MX switches, and most Chinese Cherry clones also follow suit with the same colors to avoid confusion.

Blue = low weight, clicky and tactile
Brown = low weight, slightly tactile and non-clicky
Clear = moderate weight, a little more tactile and non-clicky

>>60524694
Blue have high pitch clicky sound while brown only make sound if bottom out. Clear is brown with more tactile and more stiff key.

>>60524694
blue
>CLICKCLICKCLACK
brown
>CLACK CLACK CLACK

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>>60524770
It should be noted that tactility is a relative thing. All Cherry switches have mediocre tactility compared to highly tactile switches like buckling springs or tactile ALPS switches.
The tactility of browns is barely perceptible, which is why people refer to it as a grit of sand at best.

>>60524803
gateron brown is aight tho

>>60518168
Dvorak's hand-alternation is superior to Colemak's finger-rolls, especially for typing over a long period.

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>>60524809
Gat browns have a bigger bump than a Cherry brown. They're more like a Cherry clear with a lighter spring. Also they're buttery smooth in comparison so you'd notice the bump a little more.

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>>60524839
Gateron clears though are a good example of an exception to the rule of sticking to Cherry's color-coding scheme.
Rather than being mid-weight tactile non-clicky switches like Cherry clears, they're ultra-lightweight linear switches.

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>>60514490
The glock 19 of split mechanical. Not exciting, but no bullshit either. An unabashed workhorse that comes out ahead of the pack in the medium price range by making few new promises, but fewer concessions. A welcome addition for anyone who wants to dive into split mechanical keyboards, but doesn't want to make a $400 dollar mistake.

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>>60524933

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>>60524944

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>>60525005
Fun fact: NMB vader boards with the bigass enter are actually ANSI-compatible by resoldering three switches and re-orienting the two stabs on the enter key.

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>>60524973

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>>60525043

>>60525063
Rubber domes are the most erotic.

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>>60515274
>nearly $400
>fixed split distance
>cheap mushy function keys
>utterly pathetic 1.5u shift keys
>curved like the jew

>>60525063
This Topre's missing its spring, weird.

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>>60518168
>TFW I fell for the colemak meme

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>>60525212
At least it's not a Maltron.

>>60525391
jesus christ

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yesterday I was on here saying you could use RIT dye to dye your PBT and model M caps. I need to say I was sorta misleading to a degree after trying iDye Poly because it is vastly superior.

the yellow keys are BROWN RIT. the dark chocolate ones are the iDye Poly brown. I did multiple washes with RIT brown to end up with that yellow color. The orange keys are also RIT. Notice the iDye completely obscured the legends while the RIT keys have perfectly visible legends (that might be preferred to some?) While I was able to get some of the RIT to bleed into the keys using white vinegar and salt--it ended up being really light and pastel, the iDye was absorbed into the polymer right way (boiled for not even 5 minutes).

I'm probably going to buy a full key set from unicomp and have another go at it with what I know now. Be weary dark colors come out VERY dark, but light colors tend to stay vibrant and true to how they seem in liquid form. iDye Poly is the way to. Use distilled water and thoroughly clean your keys and you'll get a super even dye coloring as long as you put in all the keys at the same time. You can still use RIT (probably better on ABS than PBT) just know that it will take a long time, will need white vinegar and salt in varying quantities, and will almost always end up lighter. you will however-retain the legends almost always.

It was super easy to do and I know it works at lower temp for ABS too, try it out for your own custom color sets it's really fun :)

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help me decide between clears and browns
im leaning to clears

>>60525899
gateron brown or cherry clear

>>60513803
Who bro what you building there?

>>60525984
numpads for everyone

What's typing on an ortholinear like?

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>>60525984
Just an updated version of the numpad that you can see in the picture, though like the other anon said, I'm also working on a small series of numpads for a bunch of people.

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>>60525391
I have never seen anyone type with their scalp before

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>Budget
150 leaf dollars (110 burger bucks)
>Location
Canada
>Preferred switch type
currently using Cherry reds, want to try either browns or clears
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
either tenkeyless or something like pic related with a numpad on the end
is there a name for that? specifically a keyboard with both the numpad and arrow keys but much more condensed to shorten the length, preferrably dropping unused keys like home, end and scroll lock
>Backlight
dont care either way
>Previous/current keyboards
corsiar k95 with dying white LEDs and red switches


im reposting this from the old thread because i got two good responses that im considering but aliexpress predicts the deliveries to take upwards to 2 months and i dont really want to wait that long
could it just be a blanket estimate and they ship faster than that?

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>>60526500
also filco keyboards look nice as fuck but they are mostly $200

is aliexpress just my best bet and i should just deal with the wait time

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will we ever get a HKKB with a pointer

>>60526500
Mechkeys.ca will be getting Alu87s (TKL programmable kits) soon, no keycaps with them but should definitely be under $150CAD

>>60516129
>budget
Any

>location
USA

>switch type
Cherry blue

>layout
Qwerty

>form

Full. Do they make them wider with bigger than normal keys? I'm looking for a really big keyboard.

>backlight
Yes any would work

>previous
Mechanical eagle z-77
Cm storm quickfire tk

>>60521324
Life expectancy of outemus are not really tested/documented, so you might break em within a year or so.

>>60529157
Hm. I was just asking because of this $43 chinkshit TKL: https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Mechanical-Enthusiasts-Backlighting-Double-shot/dp/B01M301Q50/

It looks decent for the price point, and the caps are even doubleshot which was surprising, but I just don't know if the outemu blues are shit or not. For $43 it may not hurt to just give it a shot anyway.

Going all out with my first mechanical keyboard, I'm about to order a fc900r with cherry blue switches.
I'm somewhat worried about the click noise, would getting O-rings help somewhat, or is it a waste of money at this point?
Also, should I get a keycap puller?
I only ask because getting them shipped after the keyboard will be too costly, both time and money

>>60517272
>get the keyboard
>put the two halves together

Split is legit anyway, it's not natural for your hands to be held so close together, you end up having to extend at least one shoulder

>>60530254
O-ring only reduce bottomed out sound (clack), high pitch clicky sound remain.

>>60530254
O-rings won't make much difference with blue switches; the click is going to be the main source of noise anyway, and that happens at the activation point. If you don't want noise, don't get clicky switches.

You don't need a keycap puller because you can just make one out of a paperclip or a bent piece of wire. All it is are 2 loops of wire that hook over opposite edges/corners of a key, so you can pull off the cap by lifting it straight up rather than pushing it to the side.

>going all out
Obviously means different things to different people, but I'd say if you had an unlimited budget and were willing to get a noisy keyboard, a Kishsaver model F would be the best keyboard available today.

>>60530254
>Going all out with my first mechanical keyboard
That's not going all out m8, the fc900r is a very basic mid range keyboard, o-rings only cost 2 bucks for a couple hundred, a quick google search will answer your question about noise, and finally you don't need a keycap puller since two paper clips and some tape work just fine

>>60530312
>>60530317
Thanks for help guys
As someone typing on a 5 year old keyboard I bought for $15, spending ~$150 is going all out for me in the keyboard department

>>60524825
No it isn't.

>>60530374
Also, from youtube videos I didn't notice much difference between blue and brown noise unless you type perfectly without bottoming out, ever
Is this right?

>>60530374
NP

>$150
Too bad the Kishsaver's over $400... Your first mecahnical keyboard could have also been the last one you ever needed to buy.

Not that you can't get something great for $150. Honestly, you probably can get something similar in quality to that fc900r for only $80-90. Have you considered some cheaper options? If you find something like a rosewill on amazon, you could get it for ~85, and then spend the rest of your budget on high quality keycaps.

>>60530434
That sounds like an artifact from the video. Blues are massively louder than browns in reality. I'd advise going to any sort of electronics store and typing a few sentences on a clicky and non-clicky mechanical keyboard.

I'm using buckling springs right now, and everyone who hears it says "damn that's a fucking loud keyboard" (I think it's only slightly louder than blues). I also have an MX black keyboard that basically sounds normal and wouldn't raise any eyebrows. Browns would be more like that.

Basically, browns won't sound any louder than your current cheap keyboard (and may even be quieter), but blues definitely will be louder.

Are there any DIY numpads?

I like the infinity kit, but it's only on massdrop.

Any other 60% diy kits?

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>>60530555
I'm currently on the way to a group buy for one

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>>60530690
*On the way to running a group buy

You can join the /mkg/ telegram group (see
>>60513803)
if you're interested, pic related is the estimated pricing.

>>60530452
I must admit the a good portion of my budget is going towards getting the keyboard shipped. I live in a shithole and according to mechanicalkeyboards.com getting the fc900r shipped to me would cost ~$45, that's like a third of the keyboard's price
This is the reason I'm trying to get absolutely everything right the first time. I want to avoid any possible returns, new orders etc.

I just checked out rosewill, looks really good, and cheap too. How does it fare against leopold in build quality? Getting a set of PBT keycaps on the same order won't be a problem if I go that route, i think.
Also, how's ducky one? mechanicalkeyboards seem to have one up for preorder that also comes with PBT from the get go
I just want the best keyboard for my money here, 10 20 dollar difference won't matter if it's worth it.

>>60530478
I just went back to youtube and found this video on switches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp46JeDDTCw
The blue definitely sound different now, the brown switch also seemed like a little unnatural when pressing, I could sense a little friction in the video. Are browns like that?

From how I see it, Blue or Brown is my only option because I know I don't want red and clear seems to be non existent on cheap keyboards.
I don't think I will have problem with the noise myself, but not having any reservation when typing in the middle of the night seems nice

>>60526500
>either tenkeyless or something like pic related with a numpad on the end
>is there a name for that? specifically a keyboard with both the numpad and arrow keys but much more condensed to shorten the length, preferrably dropping unused keys like home, end and scroll lock
cooler master masterkeys pro m

>could it just be a blanket estimate and they ship faster than that?
usually takes 2-3 weeks and you can usually pay for faster shipping for like $10 which takes 1-2 weeks

>>60530374
$150 for a Leopold is way too much. What country are you in?

>>60530871

                                                                               iran

>>60530254
>>60530757
look into gateron brown instead of cherry mx brown, gateron brown is super smooth and has more tactility, without the click

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>>60530757

>Rosewill
Rosewill feels very well-built, and is a heavy keyboard. My MX black keyboard is a rosewill and it's still going strong after 3.5 years. I won't say it's entirely perfect, because rarely I've had it seem to have issues disconnecting from the USB port... but I haven't had that happen for over a year now, and it may not have even been the keyboard's fault. Apart from that, I would fully recommend the rosewill.

A ducky one may have higher QA, but I haven't used one and wouldn't know, sorry. I'm sure someone else in this thread can tell you more about that, though, since it's a popular board here.

>Are browns like that?
Yes, browns have a "tactile bump", which will cause a bit of extra friction at the point where the key actually registers as being pressed. (See the pic, if you haven't already seen it.) A lot of people actually complain that this bump isn't big enough on MX browns.

Cheap MX clear keyboards do exist, but only in chinkshit that nobody's ever tested. Gateron brown switches are fairly close to MX clear switches, and you may have better luck looking for those if you want something tactile. If you're lucky they'll be even cheaper. But once again, you'll probably need to wade through a bunch of chinkshit that may not have as high of build quality if you're looking for something with gateron browns.

>>60530895
I hope you aren't joking cause I spent a good 10 minutes looking into chink shipping rates, and you'd be better of buying something like an RK pro 104 from alliexpress.

>>60531039
Aliexpress doesn't ship to Iran, I'd have to pay some middle man to get it over here which would practically double the shipping cost. not much difference from purchasing from anywhere else
Also, I want a keyboard with good QA, which chinkshit wouldn't have.

Right now I have my eyes on a ducky one available for preorder. hopefully I decide on the switch type by the time it gets in stock, but I'm leaning towards brown atm

Thanks for everyone's help btw

>>60531289
No problem, good luck man. You'll probably like browns just fine. Ducky zero is legit, and should have decent QC.

>aliexpress doesn't ship to iran
fuckin trump, man

>>60531289
Ducky One is pretty good, the non-backlit models have somewhat sturdier cases than the backlit models which have transparent cases.

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>>60526333
Mind linking the page for the enjoypbt keyboard? I could only find one w/ the numpad on aliexpress

>>60531848
Keyboard is Tada68: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

Keycaps are EnjoyPBT Japanese Dyesub: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enjoypbt-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-hot-117-keycaps-Japanese-keycaps-Dye-Subbed-Keycap-Set/32777283992.html

>>60531289
>Aliexpress doesn't ship to Iran
Weird it says 45 day shipping to Iran is 15 bucks. Are you using an American proxy?

>>60531704
>>60531960
Yeah they banned the whole country because apparently some retarded fags kept using hacked credit cards on them.

They won't let you go to payment processor if the shipping address is to Iran

>>60531989
what about taobao?

Ordered the Red Scarf from massdrop, how bad did I fuck up

>>60532062
I never bought anything from there. but I think they are okay. aliexpress is the only chink site that wont ship here I believe

>>60532087
not bad but with all these bottom row configurations why won't they support a split spacebar, microsoft has had it for years

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2757670/new-features-of-the-sculpt-comfort-keyboard

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for example take the 6u spacebar config and allow 3u+3u spacebars instead

or take the choc mini config and put 2.75u+2.75u

or 2.25u+2.75u with 1.5u alt keys

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>>60513754
where do I buy a split mechanical keyboard? currently using picrelated

>>60532624
2.25u + 1.25u mod in the middle + 2.75u

>>60513754
What are some keycap sets that have a stepped capslock key like that?
I can't find any and I miss it from my old Dell keyboard.

>>60532196
Because the RS2+ line was designed two years ago when split spacebars weren't very popular and has not been updated since.

>>60532924
Get a EnjoyPBT, Leopold or GMK keyset.

>>60532687
Mistel Barocco if you want something available and prebuilt.

OP is a VE.A if you have serious cash to burn on the second hand market and really want function, arrow and macro keys.

>>60533691
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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guna post this again because I like to do it

does elitekeyboards take fucking forever to ship shit, i ordered from the U.S

60% with RGB?

>>60536045
Pok3r rgb

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>>60536176

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>>60536176
>>60536188
should I go back for it?

>>60536188
The fuck is going on here
How black are you and whose place is that

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>>60536354
doesn't matter
should I go back for it

>>60536384
>returning to the scene of the crime

Sure, why not?

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>>60536467
this is a IBM we're talking about anon

>>60524121
Not that guy, but I have a question:

Do I have to re-learn typing? I learned on a domed, now I have cherry mx browns, so I feel when I hit the actuation point, but when I try not to bottom out, I get really slow for my taste. Bashing away feels much better. What do?

>>60536598
Releasing the key on actuation is faster once you get the hang of it, but at least if you bash away on a mech board the ramping resistance from the spring reduces the force transmitted to your tendons when you do bottom out.

Is a G80 3000 Cherry keyboard worth it?

>>60517256
They are pretty clicky. I'm using a v60 with them right now and love it. I never liked the feeling of blues though. They felt to weak.
Fully recommend these though.

>>60536901
if you can get one for 60 euros (or your local equivalent) or less, yeah

>>60536354
roleplaying

>>60537099
It's more like US$110

>>60517256
They sound meatier, for lack of a better description. Also all forms of Cherry MX feel completely non-tactile in comparison.

>>60537198
Just buy them from cherry supliers. You can get them for 70 bucks

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>Budget
Prefer to spend less than $100

>Location
USA USA USA

>Switch Type
I honestly don't know the difference too well, but I have a Razer Blackwidow I got awhile ago here that I'm really sick of, because it feels poor to type on and the keys are fairly soft, so I guess I want a step up to something harder that feels more satisfying to type on.

>Layout
QWERTY

>Form Factor
Full

>Backlight
Yes, very important because I work at night a lot

>Previous Keyboard
Razor Blackwidow

Want to buy my first mechanical keyboard and looking at "Rosewill RK-9000V2 BR Cherry MX Switch - Brown" for 75 euro. I heard the brown switches are the safest purchase. What do you think?

>>60537754
Just learn to touchtype

>>60537900
>I heard the brown switches are the safest purchase.

What did he mean by this?

>>60537754
which switch type does your blackwidow have?

>>60537900
gateron brown is pretty safe, cherry mx brown not so much, try them out in store first

>>60538198
I don't know, razor have their own special snowflake switch types so I don't know what it would actually be called if a normal company had made it.

is gateron brown redpilled?

>blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT7zuNUth7I

>brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfXSbcKTtc

>>60538302
yes but which one, green or orange?

>>60536507
those IBMs are worth like 30 bucks. The adapter is worth more then the keyboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUFa8oZRy0

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>>60533149
thanks anon

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http://www.tradera.com/item/340827/278889253/ibm-nytt-tangentbord-i-orginalkartong-mekaniskt-model-a-m-1995-oanvant-

was ~$105 a fair price for a brand new swedish model m from 1995? seems a bit low to me because of the rarity? but then again unicomp still makes model m

>>60538673
>M2 that's waaaaaaaaaaay to much

>>60538673
this went for ~$165

http://www.tradera.com/item/340827/279929640/ibm-nytt-tangentbord-i-orginalkartong-tillverkat-jan-96-all-info-se-bild-2-

~$35, different model. rubber dome?

http://www.tradera.com/item/340827/281906369/ibm-nytt-tangentbord-i-orginalkartong-tillverkat-96-05-all-info-se-bild-2-

>>60538712
wow i didn't know much about them. they don't sound that great from reading the deskthority page

https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/ibm-model-a-t16269.html

wew lad $100+ for rubber dome

>>60538753
For 120 or 130 you can buy a brand new model M with whatever layout you want.

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>>60538863
TFW $5 at goodwill.

>>60539483
you can get m13s for that much on taobao. The industrial ones cost a bit more at 50 bucks

>>60539525
You know, that's not the first time I've heard about model m's on there. However, I have yet to see one.
Am I just retarded and am looking in the wrong places?

>>60539546
You can find the original prototypes on there for like 200 bucks, and even M15s

>>60539569
But where? Is it just a thing you have to be in the right place at the right time for?
I have never seen a model M on there before.

>>60539635
You have to use the chinese names

>>60539645
That makes much more sense.
Thanks, ill keep an eye out now.

>>60539645
Well ill be damned. There they are. Cant see and m13's, 15's or prototypes. But there are F's and m's. Thanks again

>>60539689
here is an SSK
https://world.taobao.com/item/14322995910.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.2014080708.5.lLVFw6
and an industrial
https://world.taobao.com/item/16328599470.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.2014080708.6.lLVFw6
you can use an agent that way they'll take a picture of it for you to make sure you got the right one, if you don't trust the chinks

>>60539833
Thats amazing. Still a little pricey for me, but a fuck of a lot less than what some people try to sell them for on ebay. Even after shipping.

has anyone here tried unicomp keyboards? I'm considering getting one because finding a used Model M for a decent price in Canada is hard.

>>60540023
Whats wrong with what >>60539833 linked?

>>60540066
If the keyboard is DOA, returning it to a website that's not even in english seems like it would be horrible. The first keyboard was the same price as a unicomp keyboard anyway.

>>60513762
>needing a giant fucking return
It's like the designer was trying to look retarded as a joke, and his friends didn't realize it but wanted to seem cool so they started copying him

>>60540204
True, but your getting a real model M. A rare varient at that.
But if you want alternatives. You could go for a uni. The cases aren't as good from what I've heard and seen, but they're pretty much the same feel.

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>Budget
Preferably < $200

>Location (continent at least)
USA

>Preferred switch type
Not sure. Never had a mechanical keyboard before. I want to game but also type a lot, so it seems like maybe cheery reds.

>Layout
Unsure what this means, so no preference.

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
Doesn't matter.

>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft natural ergonomic 4000

What do?

How do I go about trying out a topre keyboard? Dont wanna buy one without testing

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>>60541087
Finding friends with topre keyboards.

Or Cooler Master switches tester with topre.

>>60538673
Thats a rubber dome. Not a model m

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who /realforce/ here
I have had my Realforce RGB for a few months now. It is my favorite out of all the boards I own. It sounds and feels better with PBT caps, I just have to get a nicer set, maybe those nice high profile Filco caps to make a ghetto HiPro.

>>60541326
>$270 kb
>still have to replace the keycaps and dental band the switches to make it less shit

Have anyone tried buying anything on Taobao? Everything seems so much cheaper there

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hi, looking for a 60% cherry mx blue/black/brown board and switches. preferably in a kit i can buy in australia under $150 with white LED backlighting

>>60541326
this is not a realforce. this is just a type heaven with rgb. it doesn't deserve to be called a realforce, it's just topre's attempt to buy into the gamer market. they did the same thing by offering the hhkb type-s in JIS ISO format, by trying to buy into the jp market where some people do prefer JIS layouts over ANSI even though the majority of japanese actually use ANSI anyway.

>>60542941
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfXSbcKTtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUFa8oZRy0

>>60541326
What are topre keys like?
I've been using MX browns for years but I fancy a change.

>>60543279
high quality rubberdomes, both literally and figuratively

>>60516978
ergodox or a lets split

any cheap boards with blue switches?

~$70 cheap

>Budget
200 NZD; preferably, far less.

>Location (continent at least)
New Zealand

>Preferred switch type
Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
TKL

>Backlight
Yes; preferably, plain white.

>Previous/current keyboards
WASD v2 w/ Cherry MX Clears.

>>60537754
If you learn to touchtype, a model M would be great for all your other requirements
>very satisfying to type on
>fairly stiff keypress
>in America they can be had for $85
>full size

Romer G switches are the first mechanical switches I've really enjoyed.

>>60516959
/m/k/g/

>>60545143
He's missing the mecha, though...

>>60516129
>literally squinty-eye chink guttershit switches instead of master race cherry
what the fuck is wrong with you

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>>60513762
The French AZERTY layout is surprisingly good.

>no xboxhueg lshift and return
>large backspace
>all symbols in lowercase, numbers in uppercase
>dedicated meme arrow key

Comfy.

i just want a fucking cheap mechanical keyboard man, i aint gonna watse 100$ or more on this shit

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>>60545848
rosewill rk-9000
100% size, comes in couple different switched, no dumbass dinglebobs.
i got it after dealing with a couple keyboards that had so many different features that sitting down to type just got fucking distracting

>>60545848
Find a Model M

>>60545964
>rosewill rk-9000
still way too expensive, i dont know why nobody makes a 20$ 60% keyboard they would like hot pancakes or is it because you can sell it for 200$ so you sell it for 200$

>>60545998
>$20 60%
the margins on that would be so slim to make it worthless. plus, 60% keyboards are mostly for keyboard nerds, so mfgrs can mark them up a ton

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>>60545998
There's chink TKLs for 30 bucks nowadays. A year ago the cheapest mechanical keyboard was seventy bucks. Quit complaining you nigger

>>60546022
thats right, i would even pay 30-40$ if it were a good chinesse brand

>>60546058
why wouldnt i complain about my hard earned monies, or you just like to give up on your dollars

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>>60546097
If you find exchanging your money for a luxury item something worth complaining about, then maybe you shouldn't be buying that thing in the first place. Otherwise suck it up and be glad about how cheap chinkboards are nowadays. Get a victsing, or a magicforce with gaterons if you want something with actual quality.

>>60545727
>>no xboxhueg left shift
>shrinking the reasonably sized left shift instead of the absurdly long, second biggest key on the board right shift
>this is what isofags actually believe

>>60546192
no worries my mate, your kbs look good tho :)

>>60546058
>There's chink TKLs for 30 bucks nowadays

W-W-W-W-WHERE

Help me on my quest anon, plz.

>>60513754
i have encountered a problem with my cm-firestorm stealth, when i press down hard on on side of either the shift keys or the enter key it will stay part way down, so the key becomes slanted. anyone have any ideas on how can fix so its less of any annoyances.

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Here you go, 27 bucks. You can probably also find it on aliexpress and the like.

I'd give you a direct link, but according to 4chan ebay is "spam"

>>60546260
Thanks

>>60546315
you could also get a used ALPS off ebay for 30 bucks

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>>60546402
Meant to link to (you)
>>60546315

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>>60546402
>>60546403
thanks anon, u the best.

>>60514551
So far I really like it.
Pretty hard to get used to the noise it makes, but it feels solid. The most annoying thing about it so far though is that backlight settings are reset on PC restart.
I don't know how better, more expensive keyboards feel like, but this one doesn't feel cheap.

>>60546427
>luigi flying on the egg
memories man

>>60546315
You can get a monoprice for 30 bucks if you want full size, or a tomoko for 28 if you want TKL.

>>60513762
where is the ñ?

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What is /mkg/'s opinion on the cooler master masterkeys pro s?

>>60547874
Pro M better.

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Is Realforce 87u the endgame of /mkg/?

>>60547955
looks like an updated quickfire with a standard bottom row. is that correct?

>>60548006
Yes, and without CM Strom logo.

>>60548090
Is it better besides more keys?
The Pro M costs 25€ more. Not worth it imo.

>>60547993
>topre
nah

>>60548131
Dedicated led for numlock/caplock/scrolllock. USB port also hidden under board make it safer than Pro S.

>>60548206
ok. makes sense then.

>>60547993
A custom 80% Blue Alps would be mine.

>>60545670
the second link has cherry mx numbnuts

and there is nothing wrong with gateron
>muh cherry
nice meme

>>60547993
>TKL
>endgame
try again

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Can you name some MX Clear keyboards with adequate price?

>>60549117
Ganss 87 key
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/87-keys-mechanical-keyboard-TKL-tenkeyless-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-blue-red-87-compact/818123_32285359058.html

>>60549206
Wow it's great. Thanks!

https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Customizable/dp/B01IRASQA0

YES OR NO /G/

(Not for first mech. Would be complimenting a Cherry Brown Das.)

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>>60550554
>fullsize
are you even trying

>>60546192
>magicforce with gaterons

meme or actually good quality for a cheap first board?

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>>60550767
it's good if you upgrade the keycaps. for a similar price (for the keyboard + keycaps) you can get a tada 68 but if you're not sure what your preferences are you can get a magicforce just to try it out and bring the keycaps with you to another board later on

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/32807055607.html

>>60550648
What's that. I want that.

>>60515645
I think they have stopped producing it now. It is a little large dues to the media keys, but overall it is a great keyboard.

It has pre-installed o rings to reduce the sound they keys make so is fairly quiet. The keyboard as some USB ports in the back which allow for usb pass though, but this makes the cable they use very thick and stiff so that might affect the placement and usage of the keyboard.

The scroll for the volume is really nice.

>>60551016
minivan

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>>60547993
Nah man
I really hate the feel of plate mounted topre, I much prefer my hhkb.
In terms of 'end game' I'd choose my Model F 4704 banking keyboard (top one in this picture)

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BESTEK Chroma Backlit Clicky Mechanical Keyboard with Blue Switch 87 keys

$18 on amazon.

holy shit this is my dream keyboard circa 2006. everything on this keyboard lights up, its so fucking clicky, and its much better than the laptop keyboard.

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>>60551071

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Just got my fifth board, my first TKL

>>60551071
doesn't seem available for that price any more but that would be great for poorfags or if you just want to try out the mechanical keyboard meme. you'd pay that much just for a switch tester.

>>60551157
what are the other four? all full size?

>>60551216
yeah they ran out like 5 minutes after i got mine. I was going to get about 4 more for my buddies and nephews. they all have shitty LED fetishes and ricer tendencies just like me.

>>60551249
Two 60%, two IBM ‘pingmaster’ boards. I also have a keypad if you want to count that.

I also have another (hopefully my last) 60% and a 40% coming in the mail

I spend way too much money on this shit

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What is the complete list of miami keycaps that exist? I currently have npkc and dsa miami dolche and plans to get tai hao, is there any miami sets im missing?

>>60551737
DCS Miami
DSA Miami
chink miami (your pic)
Tai Hao Miami
GMK Miami & Miami Nights (https://originative.co/products/miami)

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Any good tutorial to desoldering and soldering swtiches?

I already have all the tools:
>Soldering iron 40 W
>Desoldering pump
>Tin thread 60/40

Now I just need the enough balls to do it because I'm very afraid to ruin my keyboard.

>>60553267
practice general soldering like make a mesh out of metal wire

>>60545727
>large key just for ordering Entrees

You sure this isn't a burger keyboard in disguise?

>>60551035
I used a 122-key model F for a few days and it made me realize how much I want one in a compact form without a fuckhuge bezel.

>>60545727
t. deluded smug frenchfag

>>60517000
dat cope tho

>>60554727
Just put an order for one those Model F reproduction keyboards with the 60% layout and compact case.

>>60555052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhMzoGcZ9Wo
the sound is just totally meh to me. i would love beamspring tho

>>60553350
good idea!

It's funny to think that all these dvorak/colemak/'insert new meme layout here' guys almost certainly type slower than I do

>>60555498
post your 0 wrong words 10fastfingers score

>>60555409
really? it sounds just like a normal model f to me.

>>60555052
>modelf repros

Those still have fuckhuge bezels though, which I don't want. At all.

>>60555052
>chink shit
nah I'd stick with american model ms instead of chinese knockoffs everytime.

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>>60555562
k, your turn and no redos bro

>>60555588
11:00 and 11:30 sound almost like plain cherry clicky switches. 14:40 sounds a lot more "metallic".

these videos also have the metallic resonance (skip to the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_JTZo2rKmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_qA5OZFJ1I

>>60555664
The reproduction keyboards are spec'd almost exactly the same as the original IBM Model F's.

Whether or not the Chinese child slaves put them together right is more concerning.

>>60555689
>0 errors
>98.33% accuracy

>>60555904
"0 errors" != "0 wrong words"

>>60555904
seems legit

>>60555946
it says 0 wrong keystrokes but the accuracy isn't 100% retard

>>60555884
I just want the capacitive buckles. Modern 96key or 1800 layout would be amaze

>>60555689
>>60555946
It says 0 wrong keystrokes tho
If you're going to property edit the page make sure you cover all the angles I guess

>>60555978
Fucking idiots, it only counts the keystrokes once you've moved onto the next word

Try it yourself https://10fastfingers.com/ and feel free to post your score anytime

>>60555996
>>60556010 is for you too dumbass

>>60556010
>doubling down on your lie after you've clearly been caught faking your score
pathetic

>>60555884
going by the video they sound comparable to model m but not model f

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>>60556144
https://10fastfingers.com/

Again, try it yourself if you don't believe me. It won't count the errors until you press space. You're in denial of being wrong about something really simple and meaningless

>>60555996
Couldn't care less for 96-key layout, but I can understand the appeal.

I ordered a 77-key with the hhkb/unix layout and numpad, pretty stoked.

>>60556200
ok but you're overly obsessed about your typing speed and your rubber dome keyboard is shit

>>60556309
I always assumed alternative keyboard layouts were for speed, was trying to make a point

>rubber dome
gross

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>>60556200
who /hunt and peck/ here
typing this on a gold badge omnikey with blue alps and its soo good.

>>60556330
almost everyone uses qwerty