Stop using this shit immediately.

>>60511094
what is this? isisIRC?

Get out of here Zuckerberg

it works really well though
what should i use instead? riot?

>>60511094
It's the less botnet program that my friend use. I need it.

>>60511147
Wire, Telegram is basically supposed to be a skype alternative so is Wire but more secure.
Riot is a wannabe IRC but shittier.

>>60511094

>implying people actually use this
Is only used for hipsters so they can say "is not WhatsApp/line/messenger" or whatever the f is mainstream

>>60511140
(You)


Also, signal.

>>60511094
Is this telegram?

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>>60511277
>He fell for the Signal Botnet

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>>60511293

>>60511094
Use signal

>>60511293
signal is good. most people that have complaints are the ones that should already be using threema, otr shit, or just not using any of this chat tech to begin with.

Telegram is the best messenger there is.
>phone and desktop client
>pepe, smug anime and pusheen stickers
>link preview
>gif preview
>bots
>based russians instead of jews

Why? It just got calls from Desktop. The desktop app is years ahead any alternative. What is not botnet these days?

>>60511094
The new video message thing is nice, plus it's kinda secure without being out of reach for normies.
I think you should kill yourself immediately

>>60511094
and what is this exactly?
fuck off you normalfag using your normalfag programs

>>60511094
why tho?

>>60511094
no.

>>60511530
>requires phone nr at registration for usage

>>60511618
So what? I'm using it for years now and never ever got spam.

>>60511686
because you are binding your phone number to a dubious service managed by Russians for a free service

>>60511534
tox

>>60511765
I don't quite get the obsession over phone numbers being something that has to be kept secret. It's just another service I'm using. I wouldn't give them my home address, but phone number? Who cares, I can get a new one anytime I want. And as of now I barely use it for anything besides calling mommy, telegram and whatsapp for talking to normans.

>>60511802
using your phone number you can get the location of the person
and if you ever take your phone home you can get the home address

>>60511776
this

>>60511809
I'm pretty sure only the police can do this. And even then, only if suspecting serious crime.

>>60511833
you are pretty sure?
just as only the NSA could be using their exploits

>>60511853
Yeah, I am pretty sure. My country has some good privacy laws.
And to be honest, I couldn't care less about the NSA or KGB having this data. I give it to google for free because maps is convenient. They already know where I am.

>>60511875
of course if you don't care about it there's nothing i could say to change your mind
meanwhile i will continue using a nice messenger that is actually private

>>60511897
That's fine, I'm glad people like you exist to keep the movement alive. But I simply love convenience too much. I'm not going around posting private shit on social networks, but if someone has to go out of their way and use exploits or hack my provider to get to my location, I don't really care too much. Where would I end up if I tried to counter every method there is?

>>60511802
what's your phone number?

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>>60511094
I never used it. https://vkontakte.ru/ is superior in every single way.

>>60511983
I won't post it here of course since someone might want to prove their point, but I've added people from 4chin before on telegram.

>>60511998
Isn't that the lynch pin of your whole argument? You are ok with putting your info into something we all pretty much know for sure is back doored to shit, because you trust that only qualified agencies have the means to hunt you down if they so pleased. Yet you are now second guessing yourself as to the extent of which an indavidual with only lulz as thier motive can do with a number which technically you already put out there via connecting it with the app.....

P.s. I'm not that anon just passing though.

>>60511094

I'd love to but that's where my ERP partners are

What is wrong with friggin irc

>>60511991
>using russian botnet
vk is a spying piece of shit, owned and ruined by mail.ru

>>60512354
Lol, leftist propaganda at its finest

>>60512256
irc has no tits by default.

>>>60511530
>>requires phone nr at registration for usage

>implying whatsapp doesn't

Why is Wickr so shit? It hasn't been updated in 12 months and it has so many bugs you can't count them.

>>60511991
>FSB honeypot.

>>60511765
>managed by Russians
Durov doesn't live in Russia for almost 3 years.

>>60512359
Wait. Leftists are now against Russians?I thought, they'd rather be spied upon by the KGB 2.0 instead of capitalist NSA.

>>60512513
Libtards were always against Russia

>>60512499
Dumb libtard

>>60512506
>Russians stop being Russian when they move away from Russia
yeah sure

>>60512540
He actually hates Russia right now.

>>60512093
good point

>>60512526
stop shilling your botnet and kys pootinist fag

>>60511277

Fuck off Moxie, nobody wants your gay """""open source"""""" App.

>>60512359
Пcccт. Ccy в poтeшник pycнявoй пидopaхe.

>>60512553
>yes goys i hate those pesky russians give me your information i am totally opposed to them

>>60512369
You can find tits on many websites, why do you need them in your chats?

>>60511094
I don't know what kind of retards still believe that MTProto provides better encryption, when it hasn't been fully audited yet, and people in the industry have been saying that it's written by the cryptography illiterate code monkeys. Classic snake oil marketing.

>>60511094
>two-factor authentication over unencrypted and unreliable SMS only that can be used by the carrier to get into your account
Fucking trashed.

I'm pretty sure there's an office full of Pajeets paid to shill this thing on the internet. You can't talk about other messengers without these fannies appearing to talk about Telegram, and they can't talk about Telegram without mentioning more popular apps.

>>60512625
>hehe goyim just give me your phone number and phone book for (((convenience))), it's totally (((secure))) from the NSA. nvm we rent our servers from Amazon

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>>60512093
Exactly, I'm okay with them having my phone number because they provide me with a service for free and have reasons not to lose me as a customer.
I'm okay with letting the plumber, electrician or police into my house but not some random chump.

I think Telegram is the best alternative to WhatsApp, because:
- the clients are open source, so you know which data is send to the servers
- i can get the app from fdroid
- there is a client for nearly every platform
- it is cloud based, so my phone doesn't have to be on to read messages from the pc
- it has 2fa
- if you want more privacy you can use secret chats without the cloud
- its fast and the servers are never down
- the servers are not only in one country so no state could force telegram to give them your data
- they have cool features like bots and stickers and all this stuff, so you don't feel like beeing in 1900s
- and i like pavel durov

>>60512813
I also don't want dick pics or somehting like that. I'm fairly certain that no one here could do any real harm besides sending a few annoying messages.

>>60512093
If you don't want to be tracked, don't use a phone...

>>60511502
>not in fdroid

>>60512093 >>60512573
This is only good until you see that it is ignorant. Posting phone number on 4chan is not security issue, it is spam issue: pizza, swatting, calls from bored people etc.

>>60512354
Seconded.
>>60512359
Юль, хвaтит хyйню пиcaть. Дypoвa зacтaвили пpoдaть BК c пoмoщью cyдa. Oт твoeгo штaмпa лoжью oнo нe cтaлo, гpyппы дaвнo зaкpывaют пo пepвoмy cвиcткy.
>>60512513
You are mixing american leftists and classical liberals (jewgle it).
>>60512540
Russian stops being russian if government basically looted him indirectly.
>>60512758
Source: your ass.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/this-is-how-russian-spies-could-crack-telegram
Is it the same shit which says that Trump hired prostitues to urinate in hotel? Lmao.

>>60513027
that's irrelevant just like
africans stay african even if they sit in america after they got released from the african slave-trade

>>60511765
I don't get what you want to say

>>60513098
not him but
>because you are binding your phone number to a dubious service
you are giving your phone number to someone who provides you a services of which you don't know the full details of
>managed by Russians for a free service
nothing in the world is free
if you don't pay with money then you pay with information

>>60513052
Africans who earned moneyz themselves are different from gibsmedat africans.

Russians who made wealth on their own and left are different from those who stayed in Russia. Best people of Russia are leaving it now.

telegram is GOAT

>>60512553
russia != russian government
and I never read that he hates it
unless of course you are simplifying his displeasure with the current laws and the way the government treats it's people's privacy to a single adjective
are you a liberal per chance?

>>60513124
but they are Russians nonetheless
being Russian is not an inherent evil it's just what you are and it will never change

>>60513116
irc? its free and you dont pay with information

>>60513146
if you provide your own server then you are right.

if not then see my point because the server is what actually has to be financed

>>60513135
inferiority complex

>>60513166
what?

>>60513146
>clear text packages in (the current year)

>>60513171
Inferiority complex, they try to persuade themselves that they're not inferior Russians anymore but superior westerners after changing a location.

>>60513116
>you are giving your phone number to someone who provides you a services of which you don't know the full details of
If your country police system is so bad that it allows foregners to hack into it you should be concerned about it. There is nothing insecure about giving somebody a number or ID scan.
>>60513135
I do not understand you. There is nothing about russians that cannot be mutated out during evolution.
In idiot terms: those who are leaving have mutations which those who are staying are less likely to have.

>>60513210
to not be russian you'd require to not be born in russia i don't get what's so hard to understand

>>60513230
Every human can be defined with DNA, what's your point?

I mean, every human has a DNA. There is more in human than just DNA.

>>60512846
They have self-updating apk from website (https://signal.org/android/apk/ or you can always see latest version via this json - https://updates.signal.org/android/latest.json ), or you can build-it yourself (with reproducible build - https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/wiki/Reproducible-Builds ).
Choice is yours.

>>60513993
no, this is the true reason why they don't want fdroid

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/281

>>60513993
>not in f-droid

so basically it's still shit.
good to know.

>>60511502
>use the messenger none of the people you actually want to message are on

Yeah, ok, senpai.

>>60511094
I have no fucking idea what that is, neither does google.

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>>60511277
>""privacy software""
>demands your real identity to use it

>>60515118
>what is google image search

>>60511502
>>60513993
>>60514252
>A built in statistics gathering solution with a web interface that allows us to visualize aggregate numbers on device type, android version, and carriers for our users. This has been crucial in shaping support and development direction.
>A built in auto-update solution. Fully automatic upgrades won't be possible outside of Play Store, but we at least need something that will annoy the hell out of users until they upgrade. This is necessary for ensuring that new security features and bug fixes can be propagated quickly.
Enjoy your botnet.

>>60512513
In america, they think Putin plays 4D chess with american politics.
Clintons aid got fished and his emails unveiled her corruption scheme which cost her an election.
But clearly it was Putin him self who sent this fishing email and that is why the confirmed information should not be trusted.
And encryption is bad now.
Pedophiles and gang lords use it to escape justice and malware use it to extort people.
Be afraid of encryption.
Be afraid of Russians.
Vote for Hillary.

>>60515266
>can't comprehend the difference between privacy and anonymity

>>60511094
I'm not...