Cocktail hour edition

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First for Explorer 1
I need one, lads.

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Does anyone own the Alpinist on a D3A7AB bracelet? Was wondering how they like it compared to other bracelets.

>>60496569
I like these explorers. Much more tastfull that the diver bezel ones. They still kind of suffer from being rather boring though.

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I'm absolutely in love with this 18 carat, rose gold TAG Heuer Carrera watch purchased from the beautiful city of Perth. Made with sapphire infused glass that only diamond can scratch, I've spoiled myself with this gorgeous timepiece. The calibre 16 movement has been crowned as the most successful automatic chronograph movement ever produced, completely handmade by man. It is also my very first day date watch and it will be interesting to see if it becomes an important feature that Will depend on over time. I hope you all enjoy this watch as much as I do.

>>60496582
let me know how to time a dive on a 24hr bezel

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my Japanese SKX with the thirdparty Jubilee strap

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New watch day lads
R8

>>60496569
Beautiful

>>60496867
this looks like a cheap rolex

>>60496918

$200 and keeps better time

>>60496870
looks like a bumper auto, nice!

>>60496852
With your dive computer like everyone else.

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>>60496993
Do you think? I'm trying to date it and going from Omegas site I'm estimating betweeb 1958-1962 based on the dial, indices and S in seamaster.

I'm too much of a pussy to open the caseback is it hard? I have a chink pry tool but don't wanna risk damaging the watch

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Is the Tisell pilot still considered the best cheap Flieger option? I'm thinking of ordering as soon as one's available.

>>60496828
So you browse reddit i take it?

>>60496828
How u doing Tristano?

>>60496532
>cucktail hour edition

>>60497315
Me too, though I think I'll get the 40mm.

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>>60496569
kek
never forget how rolex discontinued the 114270 (36mm) variant with beautiful proportions and that deep inky black gloss dial for that swollen piece of shit 214270 with the lame dark grey dial and midget t-rex hands lol

then when called out on buying a piece of shit watch rolex was too lazy and cheap to make new hands for butthurt buyers vehemently defended the retarded dwarf hands and mangled proportions.

7 years later and the new 214270 comes out fixing rolex's mistake and half the t-rex owners sell out for the new one whilst the others bitterly hold onto their stunted, recycled hands models that are now worthless on the 2nd hand market because it looks stupid and hurl invective at the new, fixed explorer 1 with the "ugly oversized hands"

the hands don't even reach the minute track lmao
really kekles my shekels.

>>60497315
>>60498169
which tisell is best tisell

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Wrist check guys.

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>>60496569

1016 is best explorer

I dislike the Explorer, it's neither fish nor fowl

There is always a more elegant or more casual option

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>>60498424
We have the same watch on brah. But phuck, where is your shiny day/date frame?

>>60496918
>>60496975
What's with all the utterly clueless idiots in /wt/ recently?

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>>60498424
Today got the doggo walked, and am finishing up breakfast at sharies.

Today's gonna be a good day.

>>60496918
Literally what the fuck.

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>>60498424
Still wearing the 116223 DJ. It's still +0.0s total since April 22, by the way.

>>60498591

it's a GOAT watch but not digging the strap

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My mother wants a watch for her birthday.
She says she wants a skeleton watch. Her choice, not mine. I don't want to buy her some cheap chinese shit though.
Are there any classy womens skeleton type watches? Preferable from a known brand. Doesn't need to be swiss obviously, she knows shit all about watches. Sekonda or something would be fine, just for my own peace of mind.
My budget is £150 max.
I know this is quite a niche question but any help is appreciated.

>>60498591
Are you feeling like summer or why you keep it on a perlon instead of the sexy croc? Anyways, looks good man.

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>>60498603
>>60498614
It's been really hot for a couple of days so the perlon was way more comfortable than the croc I use most of the time.

Does anyone here have one of those vietnamese crocodile/alligator leather straps? Sure, they're inexpensive for being the real deal, but I'd like to know how good they actually are.

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I'm wearing this today. No camera at hand but I do have an old photo.

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>>60498613
The only non-shit exposed type watches I can think of that are womens models are from orient. But they're not skeleonised, they're "open heart" (fucking hate that term).

They will be the only quality examples out there I think. Skeleton watches are either cheapo chink junk or ultra high end haute horologie, funnily enough. Not really anything decent in the lower to upper mid ranges. Maybe shit in the 1k to 2k "swiss" made segment, but that's blowing your budget, and wouldn't be worth it regardless.

It's chinkshit or something else for your mumsies.

>>60498701
A few people here have ordered them, but I don't think anyone has received theirs yet. As soon as mine finally shows up I will post pictures plus a review.

>>60498774
i'd imagine some of the fashion brands like michael kors or fossil will have something he's looking for.

>>60498847

>>60498613
>I don't want to buy her some cheap chinese shit though.

>>60499039
£150 *is* cheap for a classy watch, especially skeletons. If that's your budget she'll have to take what she can get.

>>60499180
>£150 *is* cheap for a classy watch

>fossil
>kors
>"classy watch"
lmao

>>60498730
I want one of those. how have you found yours thus far?

>>60499195
You misread, that was exactly my point.

>>60499180
Anyone who uses the word "classy" unironically doesn't have a functioning concept of style or aesthetics.

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G R A I L

>>60499365
nice audemars piguet

>>60497315

Why get that ugly concave fucker over the convex.

>>60498515
It didn't have one when I bought it.

>>60498613
Orient is the way to go here

>>60499195
obviously his mum isn't a horologist, you autistic fuck.
when he says classy, he is speaking relatively.
To a normie, michael kors is classy, as opposed to a no name china watch from ebay.
You retards really need to get out more.

>>60500134
>To a normie, michael kors is classy, as opposed to a no name china watch from ebay.
Phuck me dead, those are the exactly same thing you pleb.
Only difference between a $10 aliexpress watch and a $300 Kors is the branding and the price.

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Can anyone identify this IWC? My friend found it among his grandfathers brothers stuff. He claims it hasn't been serviced at least 30 years, although the timegraph shows that it's only running fast, otherwise it's good.

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Does anyone have the domed crystal Yobokies offers on the Alpinist? His stock photo leaves a lot to be desired, and the only other photo I can find is a pretty low effort top down photo.

>>60496828
>I've spoiled myself with this gorgeous timepiece
what a fag

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anyone have experience with miltat velcros, or other brands? Would one go well with a Seiko srp581?

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Posting my shockingly not all that shitty shitter.

>>60498613
Sea-Gull has exactly what you want. They're Chinese, but not shit.

Watch for max 120€ with a leather strap? prefferbly with a battery becuz my mechanical alienwork watch lasted like a year.

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I'm a dude with 5.75 inch wrist circumference. Should I go for a 38 or 36 mm diameter case

>>60501196
Forgot to mention, after the first day it was +2 seconds. I really can't complain for the price.

>>60501263
36

>>60500134
>To a normie, michael kors is classy, as opposed to a no name china watch from ebay.
>You retards really need to get out more.
and you need to find a better class of normie
what kind of trailer trash niggers do you hang around? lol

>>60500733
Neat watch

>>60498169
I should get the smaller version, but I think a flieger is the only watch that is allowed to be slightly too big.
>>60499507
What do you mean?

Looking to buy a used Tudor Black Bay. Is the in-house movement worth the premium over ETA 2824?

Also, red or blue? I'm so indecisive.

>>60500733
I didn't know IWC used to make nice designs.

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What the fuck does this thing even do

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>>60501532

>>60501532
Magic lever

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>>60496569
I am kinda torn on the 39mm Explorer 1. The Explorer is supposed to be small and elegant. That being said I also love the looks of pic related.

>>60501490
the in-house version has a thicker case and a worse dial.
and red.

>>60501665
To flashy for me but if your personal style allows it go for it. good luck picking between the two

>>60501692
A part of me just wanted to put the money in the bank for emergencies...

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28,800bph electromechanical movement

>>60501708
good luck with that as well lol

>>60501708
>$5000
>a lot of money
Poorfag detected.

>>60501490
Do you care about movements at all? If so, the in-house is massively better than an ETA 2824-2. I wouldn't even consider spending Tudor money on an ETA 2824-2, personally.

>>60501665
The 39mm Explorer I is a fucking atrocity.

>>60501490
>Looking to buy a used Tudor Black Bay. Is the in-house movement worth the premium over ETA 2824?
I haven't read enough about the new movement to be able to say, but as for the ETA, well, it's not just plain jane 2824 plopped in.

They do modify a top grade eta (so, not-yet-cosc certified) movement, and by modify I mean they do more than the usual suspects (e.g. Tag) where "modified calibres" are just stock ETA with a customised rotor or something.
They remove the stock anti-shock system and replaced it with the one Rolex was fond of using before they switched to their own innovation, paraflex. They switch out some other smaller stuff but basically there's no real difference between this modified tudor calibre and the stock top-grade ETA.

If anything the stock eta might be easier for a watchmaker to work on. I don't know for sure.

However, the eta-based black bays have a the standard 2824 power reserve of like 30-somethning hours. The in-housey house has 70 hours. That's a whole weekend's worth. That's an advantage in my eyes, unless this is your only watch and you won't be rotating it with somthing else every so often.

The greater power reserve means that the case is thicker, not by much but I noticed it trying it on. Also, I'll miss the rose on the old dial. They put that stupid fucking
:DDDDD shield there instead.

Drawbacks of the inhouse movement are as with all new inhouse movements if you're not willing to rely on manufacturer service: are independents familiar with it and can they get necessary parts?

I like the red because there's not enough red watches that are acutally decent. The blue is boring and generic. It's not a nice blue anyway. For me, I'd be looking at the black or the red.

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>>60501763
I agree with this anon, plus the dial is ugly in his opinion. I prefer the newer more rugged case.

>>60501763
"massively better" is an overstatement at best It does have a greater power reserve and some high end movement features at a reasonable price but it doesn't actually perform much better ( if at all) at actually keeping time; It is also thicker... I woul personally go with the in house movement as well but people really over blow the in house vs eta thing. ETA makes very very high quality watch movements.

>>60501721
NICE

>>60496569
>>60501665
Wow. They actually reduced the lines of text.
Still shame about the r o l e x r o l e x r o l e x on the internal bezel or whatever it's called

>>60501935
>silicon hairspring
>free sprung balance
>balance bridge
>70-hour pour reserve
The Tudor in-house caliber is more or less on par with a Rolex 313x. I think you would find that the consensus opinion would be that the Rolex 313x and Tudor in-house movements are a step up in design, features, finishing and inherent accuracy than an ETA 2892-A2, and the ETA 2892-A2 is universally agreed to be a significant step up from the ETA 2824-2.

The ETA 2824-2 simply does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the Tudor in-house movement. But again, as I said, not everyone is super interested in the technical merits of the movements in their watches.

>>60501935
>muh Steinshit movement keeps time as well as the Rolex movement
Might as well start telling people how much better your Casio F-91 is better than a Rolex since it keeps time better.

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>>60502666
Actually, my Rolex 3135 keeps better time than my F-91, but I did have the regulation fine tuned to achieve that.

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>>Required Viewings For Newbies:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ
really electrolysed my water reservoir

>>60502666
But the ETA in a Black Bay is not a Steinhart movement, and the Tudor movement in a Black Bay is not a Rolex movement.
The way a movement keeps time is down to regulation more than anything, and it's not like Tudor spends ten times as much time regulating their in-house movement as they did previously.

>>60502448
>>60502666

look I understand that and it is a better movement but top grade 2824 can be tested and certified as a chronometer by the COSC. It is a high quality accurate Swiss movement... features you mentioned like silicon hairspring and free sprung balance wheels are good features and certainly put the Tudor movement in a different league but it doesn't really make it a more accurate or even a more durable movement. ETA has perfected their design and execution of that design in manufacture and QC. The ETA movements are not shit by any stretch of the imagination and it really upsets me that so many of you put your noses up at ETA for no apparent reason.

>>60502860
that's why people who can't be fucked doing more than a copy-paste, and don't know how what the name field is, shouldn't be creating threads;

>>60502860
>>60502961

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>>60501263
32

>>60501477
I believe the smaller version has a domed crystal.

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>>60498424
first watch that I've owned in years.. thinking about picking up a perlon strap for it soon

>>60504134
They are the nicest Seiko 5 I think, like a cheap SARB. Will look good on a perlon too.

>>60496828
this really does look like shit

its like they based the entire design,aesthetic, and dial of the iwc portugassier, used tudor hands, and a speedmaster chrono hands and mashed it all together

>muh avant garde
putting mixed ideas together doesnt make it avant garde, nor good
fuck TAG and fuck TAG people

just pure shit, pure reddit

>>60504500
What a beautiful, well proportioned, classic looking dive watch. Oh and a Sea-dweller too.

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Does anyone know of a watchmaker in the UK good with vintage quartz that won't rape me with repair costs?

I got this Seamaster quartz on eBay for cheap as it was sold as not working, I hoped it was just untested and simply needed a new battery but no such luck.

>>60504500
Wow, the Seiko is better looking in almost every way.

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>>60504651

The dial is really something

>>60496870
I really wanted to get into vintage watches namely Omegas and Tudors.

Why does Zenith have so many disgusting designs? Are they appealing to the chink market?

>>60503713
The crystals are the same, domed sapphire. I think just the bezels are different, and of course the movements miyota v a seagull ETA clone.

>>60505003
>Zenith was purchased byLVMHin November 1999
>LVMH also own Hublot and Tag Heuer

There's your answer. Though I'd still buy an El Primero, they haven't fucked that one up yet.

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>>60505003
whatever do you mean, disgusting designs?

>>60505003
>>60505077
>>60505159
all of their special editions are hot garbage
and i don't see the appeal of skeleton chronos, with all those gears the legibility of the subdials goes to shit
38mm el primero is still nice though

>>60505077
>>60505287
Even most of the El Primeros look just OK.
That movement deserves better dial and case designs.

>>60504348
thanks, anon - i've really enjoyed it so far. as much as i love the leather strap, going to need something more breathable for these hot summer days

thinking either beige or black

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One day, perhaps in another life

>>60505425
Either grey or dark brown like on >>60498591 would be my choice.

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>>60505580
Just get a vintage Seamaster like this - http://m.ebay.com/itm/GENTS-VINTAGE-GOLD-CAPPED-OMEGA-SEAMASTER-CALENDAR-AUTOMATIC-WRIST-WATCH-/382089714538?hash=item58f6525b6a%3Ag%3AOnEAAOSwlndZHcRV&_trkparms=pageci%253A89b2bc4a-3db0-11e7-a87e-74dbd180741a%257Cparentrq%253A2819f66915c0aa4653a9def2ffff472d%257Ciid%253A24

>>60504585
You could totally franken it with a Miyota/Ronda quartz module.

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>>60505580
>GEOPHYSIC

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>this kills the grand seiko and presage + cheap swiss shitters

Why do you not bow down to the one true watch god, sarb033/35?

>>60505580
I don't like the hands on that limited edition.

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>>60505812
LOL

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>>60505712
Yeah but it comes with a sweet decorated, 17 jewels quartz movement. Pic isn't mine but it's the same movement.

>>60505896
neat
get that shit fixed then

>>60505645
>£500
>refinished dial
>hasn't been serviced

I agree that vintage Seamasters can be had for pretty cheap but finding the right one for a good price is almost impossible.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vintage-Seiko-King-Quartz-Twin-Quartz-Wristwatch-9923-/322522721216?hash=item4b17da2bc0:g:deYAAOSwblZZH-Sm


What can you tell me about this watch?

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Casio meme bump

>>60501477

The bezel is concave, it bends inwards. They have a model where the bezel is angled flat and looks much better.

Is 2007 the very last year Rolex produced the 2-line 14060M?

Did they every produce a 2-liner with the ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX?

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Triggering /fa/ one longsleve shirt at a time.

>>60508814
did they call you MFA tier

>>60508842
They get upset about mixing a "sweater" with the green owl penis

>>60506830
>agree that vintage Seamasters can be had for pretty cheap
They've gone up in price by a lot (too much) over the past decade.

People get pulled into omega marketing because of bond films and other shit, can't afford the new ones, go on ebay for some cheaper vintage stuff. Plenty of pooinloo redialers peddling their shit to retards that don't do their research. And if you go to a vintage watch dealer you're going to get reamed, and that's if they're a trustworthy one.

I think vintage omega's are up. You want a nice vintage watch? Start looking at other brands that have fallen by the wayside, less chance of frankens and other tomfoolery.

If you're an american, look at the dead american brands; they made some truly wonderful pieces that the swiss have been in no small hurry to bury and let people forget about. They go for cheap now, too.

>>60508272
>Is 2007 the very last year Rolex produced the 2-line 14060M?
2006 to early 2007, as they changed the 14060m halfway through the Z serial (July 06 to Dec 07). It remained thus until it was discontinued a few years, and serials, later. They introduced parachom blue hairspring in an apparently inconsistent fashion after the change to the 4liner/retarded rehaut. I don't know of any pattern. Perhaps the last 14060M's made will definitely have the new hairspring.

I know that there are Z serial 14060M's with the COSC 4line dial and the retarded *ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX* rehaut, and there are Z serial 2liner's without all the bullshit.

Never seen a 2liner with the rehaut, so I'm guessing that it was introduced late run when they ruined the submariner by making it COSC certified and printing the usual novella on the dial.

If you get a Z series 2 liner 14060M, it shouldn't have the rehaut, and will probably have been made in 2006/early 2007.

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Any of you know a reputable place that sells the Orient Star WZ0031DV ? It's absolutely gorgeous

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99584456@N02/sets/72157643125558213/

Do you guys recommend Fossil or Armani Exchange?

>>60510543
Never. They're pure dogshit.

>>60510554
What do you recommend that is cheap, don't want digital.

>>60510643
Seiko

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>>60505812
>no 009
You're a faggot

>>60505984
I intend to, in working order they go for over 10x what I paid for it.

>>60510643
>>60510675
Orient
Citizen
Slavshit

>>60510206
Why would you get that over a SARB033?

>>60510543
We don't recommend any fashion brand shit.

>>60510206
Meh I don't like it. Too dull design on the case, hands & dial and that logo is ugly too.

>>60500209
>Only difference between a $10 aliexpress watch and a $300 Kors is the branding and the price.
to be fair, branding and price is what normies care about. so you've kind of proven yourself wrong.

>>60510893
>branding and price is what dumb trailer park trash care about
Fixed.

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should be arriving soon
pretty hype
will post wrist shots when i have it

>>60510908
what planet do you live on?

>>60510933
On a planet where most of my normie friends appreciate quality.

>>60510908
Considering their popularity by the fact that every mall, low end to mid high end, carries fashion branded shit of some kind or other regardless of region, trailer trash aren't the only ones clueless enough to buy this junk. People in general buy generally shitty things otherwise it wouldn't be everywhere and the world wouldn't be choked with junk products.

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All oph you nasty, phoulmouth phuckers, post your collections NOW

>>60511146
If I wanted something ugly, digital or quartz to tell the time I'd just use an iphone.

>>60505077
>I'd still buy an El Primero, they haven't fucked that one up yet.
>Being in denial
They still have some good ones but they made some terrible ones.

>>60510679
That's discontinued though

>>60510910
Which memecrobrand is that?

I was in Shinjuku today and saw an upscale shop selling some used Rolexes for about $400. I think they were from the 90s because the hour and minute hands had big cartoon arrows at the end.

Think I could flip them on ebay?

What makes Seiko 5s so cheap? Is the quality really that bad?

>>60512346
Pics? They don't sound like any Rolex I'm aware of.

Some have GMT hands that have an arrow on a 4th hand, GMT Master or Explorer II. The other hands are classic Rolex though.

>>60512522
Mass produced in huge numbers with entry level movements and lower quality finishing.

Still better than fashion brand chinkshit though.

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haven't owned a watch in many years due to being a poorfag
now I suddenly have money in my life and want to change my look to not look like a disgusting poorfag
but it's hard cause I'm so used to being a poorfag

I want to transition slowly into looking less poorfaggy... not too suddenly

I decided on Orient Mako , is that a good choice anons?

I'm just deciding between blue or black dial.. I'm leaning towards blue but I read online people say black goes with everything while blue does not?

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>>60512565
Go for blue, the sunburst effect on the dial is nicer, the black looks boring in comparison.

Why not spend a little more and get a SARB though? They are beautiful watches for the price.

>>60512642
wow that looks good!

Isn't it time for a new /wt/ guide?

It would be such a big challenge though

>>60512786
Nobody cares enough to make one. One anon tried a while back and it was shit.

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>>60512879
Go back to the WUS forums if you're so upset about your shitters not getting lavished with praise.

>>60513151
That chart is awful.

Does /wt/ like Hodinkee?

>>60513173
How? It's quite realistic.

>>60512786
Honestly I'm not sure the need is there. For mechanicals you can basically break it down this way:

Below $100: Vostock, Seiko 5s
$100 - $250: Orient, SARB, Tisell
$250 - $500: Seiko Presage, Seiko divers, Miyota 9015 microbrands
$500 - $750: Seiko SARX
$750 - $1,500: Seiko Presage chronographs, ETA Damaskos
$1,500 - $3,000: Grand Seiko quartz
$3,000 - $4,000: In-house Tudor, In-house Damasko, entry level Grand Seiko mechanical, DUW Nomos
$4,000 - $5,000: Grand Seiko mechanicals, entry level Rolex (NO oversize versions)
$5,000+: Zenith El Primero (vintage design reissues ONLY), JLC, VC, ALS, etc.

>>60513151
That's not what I'm talking about. It's shit too but not even worth mentioning.

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>>60513151
>Approved brands
>Brietling
>Omega

>>60513242
Wouldn't the SARB sit in the 250-500 range?

>>60513298
Possibly, didn't check before I typed that off the top of my head.

>>60513178
>jewdinkee
lmao check their 3 on 3 vid for dress watches under 20k; identical triplets with equally bad taste
do all jooyorkers look and sound and dress the same like that? It's uncanny.

Under 25min left on the NOS king penis:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122502761948

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>>60513266
>Approved reaction images
>Childrens cartoons

>>60513329
It's in good condition, but NOS/mint it isn't. You can see scratches on the bezel, and on the right part of the 6:00 lug.

>>60513178
I read most of their articles. They have people who know their shit, and some nice explanations on how complications work. The woman is super unprofessional and boring though, and those celebrity wearing watches and wanking over retards maying millions for an old rolex I couldn't care less about.

Oh and they're too afraid of offending brands to offer any actual criticism, so don't go in expecting customer advice.
Honestly if you haven't been banned by at least one major brand I don't believe you're an honest journalist. That's why I love Harris for car reviews.

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>>60513334
>Defending that broke IWC shitter buying faggot
>Defending Breitling and Omega

>>60513355
t. proud Seiko and cat owner

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>>60513359
I also have this and a Lemania 5100 Speedmaster from before Omega became complete pleb-catching trash.

Nice try though. Breitling is ghastly looking and only the B01 is technically defensible, and Omega is almost totally indefensible beyond the MOTM and the FP1185 based chronographs.

>>60513384
>Breitling and Omega are shit except for the watches they make which are good

Yeah, that's kind of the point.

>>60513409
One Breitling model and two Omega models are not nearly enough to list them as approved BRANDS. 99% of the watches both companies make are pleb-catchers.

Not to mention that AP should be removed entirely from the approved brands under haute horlogerie. At a minimum ALS should be added to that section.

The $500 - $3,000 section is missing Seiko for the higher end Presage models as well as Damasko.

>>60513466
>Not to mention that AP should be removed entirely from the approved brands under haute horlogerie. At a minimum ALS should be added to that section.

Definitely this.

Also modern Omega dog shit, vintage Omega great.

Do people even buy Tudor and Zenith ?

>>60513522
Tudor has never been so popular, they can't make enough black bays to feed the masses.

>>60513522
Tudor's new in-house movement is really nice. Puts them into a totally different league than they were before when they were insulting their customers with tarted up ETA 2824s (there was no excuse for them not using 2892s at those pricepoints).

>>60513466

Most of the Breitling chronographs are switching to their in-house, column wheel chronographs. PLus they have the in-house world time watch. They're definitely getting better with time and their ETA-based watches are modified and actually finished well for their price. I hate most of their designs but that is entirely subjective.

Omega does nice finishing too and their ETA movements are all modified. It's a tough fucking price category.

Damasko is obscure and have fun getting it serviced. A noob's guide does not need special snowflake shit.

Lange is a specialty brand along the lines of FP Journe, Greubel Forsey, etc. and is too niche and too small in production figures to be included in a generalized guide for noobs. Getting mad (regardless of the category) that your obscure pet brands are not included in what is obviously intended to be a very basic, beginners guide shows signs of legitimate, non-meme autism.

>>60513151
No IWC, Paneria, Piaget, Blancpain, Hublot, Longines, Ulysse Nardin, Cartier or Chopard.

>>60513576
Breitling's are all hideous except for the Navitimer and that's the only defensible B01 chrono purchase.

And you can fuck off with that bullshit about Omega. A $4,000 aqua terra literally has worse finishing than my $500 Seiko Brightz, not to mention co-axial being a fucking meme timebomb.

Damasko makes ETA powered models using all of their high end casing technologies for $1,000. They deserve inclusion as serious tool watches at a fair price.

Lange is generally mentioned in the same breath as PP and VC and you know it. AP has spent the last 10 years turning into Hublot and no longer deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as ALS, PP and VC.

>>60513591
IWC, Panerai, Hublot, Longines, and Ulysse Nardin are all pleb catching garbage and them being excluded is one of the list's strengths.

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>>60513669
>Breitling's are all hideous except for the Navitimer and that's the only defensible B01 chrono purchase
If you think this is ok I'd hate to see a watch you think is ugly

>>60513669
Well you could say Rolex is a pleb catcher brand too going by the vast majority that buy them.

>>60513765
No because even if the Rolex models are UGLY they are still made to a high standard of quality.

I use the term pleb catchers for watches where the the manufacturing of the watch is seen as a cost center to be minimized, while marketing a brand image is seen as the primary revenue generator. These watches are marketed to non-watch people who won't have the experience to.realize how badly they are being ripped off.

>>60513706
Look, it's not that I personally find that watch attractive, but it is the definitional slide rule pilot's chronograph and gets a pass purely based on the history of the design. I'd never buy one, but it is at least defensible.

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The hell are some of these sellers smoking, and where can I get some?

>>60512346

From the description those sound like they were Seiko SKXs.

There are some good used Rolex shops in Tokyo though. Check out Quark. You won't find a "deal," but it'll be in good condition and priced appropriately.

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>>60513856
Almost as bad as this atrocity.

> $399

Going to phist some rollies at the local AD today. I might post pics too

>>60513891
What the fuck?

>>60513891
I saw this on r/watches some time ago I'm pretty sure

Are Timex good watches ?

They are pretty cheap and some of them do look good.

>>60513957
You might find decent vintage timex but the new ones are horrible quality.

>>60513957
The cheap ones are fine for the price yeah

>>60513669
>They deserve

That's a nice opinion but how about you make your own guide if you get so buttblasted at mine?

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>>60513922
I can't believe it either. Like who would even make that thing? It's not even a buy it now, starting bid is $399 (no bidders, shocking).
>>60513937
Were they downvoted to the point they never posted again?

>that clasp

>>60513576
>Lange is a specialty brand along the lines of FP Journe, Greubel Forsey, etc. and is too niche and too small in production figures to be included in a generalized guide for noobs.
You're so fucking clueless

>>60514069
>Were they downvoted to the point they never posted again?
Doubt it, that place is a bigger hugbox than WUS even.

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is Seiko objectively the best brand

>>60514323
Based on what criteria

>>60514323
I feel like the last few years they've been focusing far to hard on branding at the expense of quality. All these watches with the prospex logo, PRESAGE, the grand seiko changes that left a lot of their dials imbalanced and yet we still have misaligned chapter rings and hands.

>>60513669
>IWC, Ulysse Nardin
> pleb catching garbage
wat? you'll have to justify that statement.

>>60498613
What's the watch in your pic? I kind of like it.

>>60514323
Well if you can't afford a real wristwatch they are the next best thing.

>>60514497
IWC sells oversized, colorful simple designs with totally pedestrian movements at hilariously inflated prices. $6,000+ for a Valjoux 7750 chronograph? $4,000 for an ETA 2892 flieger?

They are a slightly less gauche Panerai, and target the same demographic of noveau riche who don't know any better yet.

>>60514069
Looks like the bracelet it's on comes with a free curse. And where the fuck did the Seiko metal bracelet come from? Looks like it's off something from the 70s with the end links missing.

>>60514618
>slightly less gauche Panerai, and target the same demographic of noveau riche who don't know any better yet.
No, Panerai targets the Porsche Cayenne driving, receding hairline mid-life crisis guys, with their 80s action hero image.

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>>60514642
I rest my case.

>>60514497
Yeah I don't get it. Plebs would never have ever heard of IWC or UN. Pleb catching is super mass marketed junk, like Tag, Tissot etc. I wouldn't include rolex there even though it's the most well-known luxury watch brand out there (guy with a rolex and guy with a patek , 10/10 times people will recognise the rolex and think the patek wearer has some cheapo watch on because rolex is "the best in the world!" by their reckoning.) and I don't see their ads fucking everywhere like the former 2 and others. Rolex doesn't even have to advertise anymore because to the average pleb it's the height of watchmaking, perhaps slightly above the Tag the salesman reassures them is "almost as good as a rolex! But cheaper!". That's pleb catcher to me.

I'd be almost inclined to include Omega in pleb catcher territory these days, but it's at least better than tag shit.

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>>60514682
IWC targets noveau riche men who still have pleb tastes with its colorful, oversized, simple designs. Like I said, they are a slightly less tasteless Panerai.

>>60514660
>also available in 18k pink gold
Is this supposed to be a joke?

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>>60514704
Probably. Though it's actually IWC that's the joke. I can't fucking believe people spend Rolex+ money on this fucking cringe inducing garbage.

>>60514723
>buy our watch and you will get laid too!
This is the lowest form of advertising I have ever seen from a watch company. What the fuck.

>>60514618
IWC targets clueless Germans. Every Iwc owner I know of is a one-watch German. They all have issues with them and richemont service lol.

Panerai really is the height of retardation. They got so popular over nothing so quickly. They're were like the Denzel Washington for cashed up nouveau riche.

Throw a mass made pocket watch movement into an oversized case and let Stallone market it to the Asian wristlets and balding, midlifecrisisers in the West and you've got a recipe for success.

Look up the Panerai Brooklyn Bridge fiasco for keks, and from then onwards ever laugh in the face of any moron dumb enough to buy a Panerai.

I respect fucking Montblanc more than I do Panerai, and even if one trick pony AP is just as bad in the variety department as Pan, at least AP's products and services are quality.

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>>60514747
I told you, didn't I? Their marketing strategy is virtually 1:1 identical to Panerai's: Make cheap, easy to make oversized designs appealing to plebs with generic ETA movements or "in-house" movements that are ETA kits, basically, and then market the shit out of them.

Buying one instead of a Rolex, Grand Seiko or JLC makes you an utterly irredeemable pleb.

>>60514771
Oh I'm well aware. Panerai's are so fucking easy to make that no one will take one used without boxes and papers because you can't tell the real ones apart from the fucking chinkshit fakes. It's hilarious.

There is nothing in the watch community more pathetic than people who still defend Plebberai after the Brooklyn Bridge fiasco. Literally the most pathetic turbocucked morons in the entire world of watches.

>>60514818
There's still plenty of them out there, that's for sure.

LOL, I remember a few years ago there was a homage brand called marina millitaire or something, and their knockoffs were so decent (including internals), you really had to be brand whoring idiot to buy the "original"; imagining that the fakes now are so scary close isn't so hard.

>>60514796
Iwc also use some JLC movements (at least the perpetual calendar). One of the many reasons I'm wary of all richemont: too much "internal sharing" aka pilfering from JLC, for my liking.

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>>60514771
>$5k

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>>60514641
How someone can defile any watch like that I don't know. They claim it's Sterling silver too.

Looks yo be off a 6117 World Timer GMT or similar.

>>60514660
>>60514703
>"the chart says this kind of marketing works with Germans"

>>60514999
rike dis if u kek erryteim

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>>60514771
>>60514999
>$5k

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>>60514771
>>60514999
>>60515050
>$5k

>>60506868
Anyone ??

>>60515060
>>60515050
>>60514999
Phuuuck me dead that is some Vostok tier phinishing right there mate.

>>60515073
It's a high end, high accuracy thermoadjusted quartz from september 1976 or 1986. I would guess '76.
That case looks like it's polished afterwards though, be careful.

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>>60515073
It's a Seiko Suwa rather than a Seiko Daini, the Suwas are a little more generic in case and bracelet design whereas the Daini are much more unique and, I feel, are thus more desirable when buying a high end quartz watch from the late 70s. The way to tell them apart is that Suwa use a stylised whirlpool logo and Daini a lightning bolt.

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should I get this as a beater

alternatively what's a slim digital watch I can stick on a Nato strap

>>60515639
AE1200WH-1A

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It's been my daily wearer for a good 4 weeks.

Definitely not the perfect watch. But it's got character.

Any alternative to the orient bambino?
It's a bit too big for me.
I need a dressy watch under 130USD.

>>60515165
Why "be careful"?

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>>60514999
>>60515050
>>60515060
Shit, it's worse than I remember and seems to get worse every time I see it.
The supreme irony of this being that there are no-name panerai knockoffs and, I would assume, outright fakes that have better looking movements than that piece of fucking shit.

>>60515123
>Phuuuck me dead that is some Vostok tier phinishing right there mate.

>finishing
It's not finished at all, it's straight out of a Swatch factory by way of Shanghai or Bangkok, and plopped into a case with a retarded caseback engraving. It's a slur against Boctok to even mention them in the same sentence.

There are modern instances of companies fucking up big time, Tag and Bremont's "in-house" movements debacles being perhaps the most recent and hilarious, and occurrences where watchmakers have treated their customers with utter contempt (Patek, JLC et.al, but in regards to servicing only and QC; at least the product was good when it was working properly) but this incident takes the fucking cake.

Richemont really did their market research: only the mentally retarded want and buy Panerai, and they acted accordingly.

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/3133/ anyone?

>>60516887
Not normally a chronograph fan, but I have always loved that bezel.

>>60514660
No woman is married to a rich dude and rides harleys, smokes cigars, and drinks whiskey.

>>60516718
Talking generally here as I didn't look at the watch in question, but polishing steel (or gold for that matter) usually results in a shitshow unless it's done by the likes of Rolex or AP's refinishing department, and even they have been known to fuck up and they're the experts.

A steel watch can only be polished so many times before it looks like crap, and that's only if it's being polished by super competent hands in the first place; one shitty job can ruin it for good. Gone are the fine angles and contours, it's all a mush.

A badly polished, or over polished watch lowers its value, and thus its re-sale value. You don't want to get ripped off.

One thing people tend to forget when looking at vintage, valuable watches is overpolishing or bad polish jobs.

This is a generalisation for all watches; I don't know anything about the value and collectability of vintage seiko quartz watches off ebay.

>>60517624
rawr xD

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>>60517624
GRORIOUS RITTLE RIONS MAKE SEIKO STRONG!

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Thoughts on Memorgin? I get the feeling this is trying to be some luxury Sea-gull movement.

Why are there so many Italian sellers on Chrono24?

>>60518138
mafia stolen goods duh

>>60518138
If their watches are listed As "condition:0" it means they're grey market goods. Perhaps the manufacturers don't have as good a hold of Italian retailers that then dump their excess stock on the Italian grey market? Or perhaps Italy is the easy grey dumping ground for the European markets? I dunno.

Even a Hong Kong grey dealer I know of boasts about getting its stock from Italy.

>>60512642
I am sadden that there is no blue face SARB, if there were I would have bitten.

>>60518427
Have you no shame at all?

>>60518427
ali link pls

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>>60518407
There used to be but it's discontinued.

>>60506868
>>60515073
The thermoadjusted movement there is top tier, even by today's standards, but I think that Suwa case & bracelet design is just plain boring. There are way more interesting Superior/Grand/King quartzes with a twin quartz movement.

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>>60518654
That retro blue is pretty ugly tbqh senpai.

>my local random Seiko store in northern France has a bunch of 2017 Grand Seikos with the new logo
>Seiya still doesn't

What is this fuckery?

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>>60496532
Here is my watch running free software! :3

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>>60518889

>>60518889
too big for you

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http://www.ablogtowatch.com/watch-lover-celebrity-john-mayer-sues-bob-maron-buying-replica-rolex-pieces/

>poor John Mayer
>who is this Bob Maron guy
>go to his website
>look at his collection
>he sells shit like this

Faggot deserved to get scammed...

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Soooooo... Will the old-style Grand Seikos be cheaper now to buy new?

>>60519119
Depends on what is considered desirable.
Snowflakes will remain the same price, if not increase.
I find the old style to be much cleaner.

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My cat is fancy

>>60519167
He/she sure seems to dislike that shitter

>>60519143
Old style:

S E I K O
GS
Grand Seiko
Automatic

New style:

GS
Grand Seiko
Automatic

Not only does the new style get rid of the stupid redundancy ("seiko" was literally on the dial twice), but it also gets rid of that generic S E I K O logo that has no place on the upper-end.

This new style literally put me over the edge, I'm definitely getting a grand seiko now.

>>60519167
how do people live with themsevles buying complete shit

ahhh yeah, the reddit memesters
>cate
ffs

>>60519217
Just kidding, I have the same 5. Good watch for the price

>>60519242
Yeah it's nice for starter, and normies will ask about the timepiece so the skeleton back is nice. I just wish it had a sapphire dome and other dial, I don't really like the seiko 5 sports logo.

>>60519237
>t. Edgy 4¢han memester

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>>60518910
thx

>>60518926
tru

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Help me decide, /wt/.
Should I buy this LQ? I have a perfect Seiko bracelet for it already. I'm really conflicted, now it looks cool but I might get fed up very quickly as it is very 70s.

>>60519398
It's nice.
Get it.

>>60519119
Did they change the size with the new version?

>>60519500
No.

What are those "private listing" bidders on ebay? Am I being decoy'd?

>>60507468
is that real gold? if not what is actualy this shit?

>>60515639
dont use NATO strap on such light weight watch because its too fucking light to even wear it. Buy 1$ silicon wristband instead.

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>>60520073
>too fucking light to even wear it

what's it gonna do float off his wrist?

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>>60519480
>>60519398
Phuck me dead I bought it. Might end up paying a bit too much if the customs catch it, but whatever, look at the beautiful as fuck indices

>>60496532
Daily reminder that most watches are bling for high functioning autists.

>>60520217
Not too into square watches but this is nice

>>60519167
Please be nice to your cat man

>>60518889
That does not fit you at all you need to sell that M80

>>60512565
The blue is glossy the black is matt and boring

>>60512565
Get the blue. The image doesn't even do it justice.

>>60514723
>Chad the watch

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>>60520217
>>60520217 #
Nice.
With inflation adjusted, that watch cost around 573€ in 1979. The most expensive Seiko superior quartzes were around 2000€.

>>60504733
want to cop band. what is it?

>>60519231
>but it also gets rid of that generic S E I K O logo that has no place on the upper-end.
Eh, I thought it was pretty cool that the brand ranged from $50 to $6000+ myself.

>>60512565
get an Orient Ray instead.

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>>60520934
It's an absolutely classic logo.

But just as Honda can sell an NSX all around the world, small minded Americans wont want it until it's branded as Acura.

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I would like a perpetual calendar watch, preferably quartz battery or solar

Something that is not busy as all hell on the dial, basically a simple diver type watch with perpetual day date

is there such a thing?

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>>60513151
>Rolex, trend setters not trend followers

my sides have entered unseen dimensions

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>>60500134
lol this
when cognitively normal people say classy, they're talking about aesthetics
being a next-level autistic cunt about watches doesn't mean you know more about being 'classy' than a standard normie

you fags are to watches as /fa/ is to fashion

>>60506868
>Case Diameter : 350mm x 410mm

what

>>60521316
Does that mattress cover cover both faces of the mattress? It kinda looks like it does.

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>>60521407

>>60521316
>>60521492

OK I just googled it and it definitely covers the mattress entirely. That's the first time I ever saw a mattress sheet/cover that's not just wrapped around the edges. I wonder if she got it custom made.

>>60506868
This is nice. I'm thinking about buying it.

>>60517182
>talking out your my butt: the post

>>60507468
I wish they'd make these in non-disposable versions. Real stainless, sapphire crystal, etc.

>>60510206
Where can I find this exact watch but quartz?

Help me decide on a vintage seiko to buy

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>>60521492
>>60521581

They make those, they zip up around the mattress so it does not come and pop off the corners. I have one for a queen sized bed, I am 6'3 225lbs and my gf is 5'8 and an athlete, before we got that sheet we were literally ripping the covers off the mattress every time we fugged

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>>60522095
Find yourself a good 5740C, a penis quartz, or one of the multiple good vintage daini models.

>>60522152
Wow, nobody cares.

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>>60521240
>I would like a perpetual calendar watch, preferably quartz battery or solar
>Something that is not busy as all hell on the dial, basically a simple diver type watch with perpetual day date
>is there such a thing?

help pls

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>>60522165
>Wow, nobody cares.
wow the guy I was responding to clearly did, he made 2 posts about it

mad

>>60522153
Is that your lord marvel? I've been looking on eBay on and off for months

>>60522095
>Help me decide on a vintage seiko to buy
GET THE TURTLE

>>60522171
Seiko has one. Seiko also has a perpetual calendar which doesn't have all the day and month functions just the date

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>>60522212
Yep. Search on yahoo jp auctions too.

>>60522216
What is the turtle

>>60522222
>Seiko has one. Seiko also has a perpetual calendar which doesn't have all the day and month functions just the date
QUINTS WITNESSED

do you have the model number on that seiko? I can't find it

>>60522194
Funny, last I checked he was asking about a mattress cover, not the specific details of your love.

>>60522236

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Seiko-divers-6309-7040-TURTLE-SCUBA-PRO-450-MEGA-MOD-FEB-1981-K80-/122502540114?hash=item1c85b86b52:g:aVYAAOSwq1JZEEVt

>>60522262
>Funny, last I checked he was asking about a mattress cover, not the specific details of your love.
Just giving him the downlow on why someone would want that and why it's a thing

stay mad lonely guy

>>60522256
Amazon search for seiko perpetual calendar it's a presage I think.

Unfortunately it's ugly as sin

>>60522153
does this have lume?

>>60522223
Did you get it serviced after purchase?

>>60522321
No.

>>60522327
Yes. It was running very accurately even before servicing, now it's running even moreso.

This is what I want, is there a newer version of this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-SBCM023-High-Accuracy-Quartz-Perpetual-Calendar-Diver-/122507120635?hash=item1c85fe4ffb:g:o6AAAOSwKytZIP~w

>>60522316

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>>60522393
pic

Looking for a mid size (38-40mm) military/field/pilot watch under $350. Any suggestions?

Ordered a Marathon GSAR 194006

https://www.marathonwatch.com/product/search-rescue-divers-automatic-gsar/

Any thoughts on this particular watch or its counterparts?

>>60522505
>Looking for a mid size (38-40mm) military/field/pilot watch under $350. Any suggestions?
timex expedition

>>60522222

WWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTNEEESSSED

>>60523511
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>>60521407