Ryzen mobile chips on the horrizon

>>60482919
The fire ryzes?

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>Encrypt working memory
Why?
The CPU is backdoored anyway.

>>60483231

>>NO PSP

LTR Mother Fucker

>>60483231
>>NO PSP

>>60483231
>NO PSP
Ok.

>>60482919
>no PSP
I won't believe it until I see a source.
would be great news if it's true.

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>>60483257
>>60483260
>>60483261
They're going to remove the one backdoor you know about and replace it with 5 new secret ones.

>>60483432
You lying.

>>60483456
Not necessarily, it is a possibility. After San Bernardino I wonder if existence of these back doors are exaggerated.

>>60483432
The idea that it's a backdoor remains totally speculative anyway. Despite both the NSA and CIA getting cleaned out of their hacking tools and internal documents, no evidence of Intel ME or AMD PSP exploitation has surfaced. Even the recent remote access attack on the Intel ME was limited to a very specific subset of motherboards with a particular feature enabled and was only possible because that system was designed to be accessed remotely. As far as I'm aware AMD's implementation requires the attack to come from inside the processor, the firmware must betray you, not be exploited.

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>>60483432

>>60483456
Believe me, I wish I was wrong.

>>60483558
PSP exploit or GTFO.

Are you all really this naive?
A multibillion corporation doesn't give a fuck about your privacy.
Especially when approached by government agencies.

>>60483639
And yet where is the exploit?

>>60483673
How should I know, I don't work for NSA.

>>60483104
Nice job anon, now stop bane posting.

>>60483691
You could try looking at all those NSA & CIA documents we have and observing the amount of effort they're putting into other attacks, suggesting the absence of a silver bullet.

>>60483491
that may be true but it's seen by many, and I would agree, that it's a needless security risk to have an unaudited Master processor/OS monitoring the CPU.

>>60483763
given San Bernardino, I doubt Intel and AMD are being compelled to create back doors. However, they could be doing so willingly. That has not been proved after numerous leaks from the intelligence community. A bigger concern is that they block libreboot.

>>60482919
>PSP
If I take that off, will you die?

>>60483823
>that it's a needless security risk to have an unaudited Master processor/OS monitoring the CPU.
Absolutely. I think this situation with the Intel ME and AMD PSP is absolutely deplorable. However I don't think that justifies running around asserting like it's fact that there's a backdoor.

>>60482919
>NO PSP

I think I might finally replace my 8 year old Intel laptop with an AMD one...

>>60483104
fpbp

>Ryzen mobile chips on the horyzen

i just want coreboot and free drivers

>>60482919
>>NO PSP
sorce

Will this compete with Intels Atom series?

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>>60482919
>NO PSP
I'll believe it (and probably buy it) when I see it. Until then, you're just a shill who needs to poo in the loo.

>>60482919
>Intel gets paid by gubment to put a back door in
>they make it incredibly obvious there is a backdoor and easy to discover
>meanwhile AMD touts no backdoor and hides theirs even better
Where were you when this whole time Intel was actually helping us reveal this corruption?
Fucking based

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>>60485956
wait holy shit youre right

intel has been making it obvious because they are trying to help us

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>>60485956

>>60486575
>J-Jew
How long did it take for you to come up with that Raja

>>60482919
> no psp

Fuckin sauce me

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>>60486662

>>60482919
>NO PSP

Sony?

>>60488358
Private Secure Processor. It's the equivalent of Intel's Management Engine.

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>>60485956
>>60486046
>>60486575
>>60483432

all it would take to see is some university with electron microscope time to spare
they really cant hide the physical existence of it.

Could they scale a Ryzen APU down to a Core-M equivalent with somewhere between 4-8w of power draw?

>>60489596
Ryzen targets anything from 2-180W.

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>>60489596
>4-8w with equivalent output to an intel dual core hyperthread
Give it to me

>>60483639
You're the idiot around here, actually

Because even a multi-billion dollar company like Intel or AMD can get royally assfucked if it turns out all the CPU's with their backdoors can be hacked into by anyone. There are mult-billion dollar companies buying computers from these guys and they could lose billions in trade secrets or fraud due to something like that, and they won't hesitate for a moment to sue AMD or Intel into the ground.

Then there's the wider market reaction as everyone avoids your product because it's seen as backdoored risky mess.

It could literally be suicide for either Intel or AMD to go along with that and then have the backdoor ifnormation leak to the general public - and given the CIA NSA leaks where exactly that has happened, yeah, you'd have to be goddamn fucking retarded to put a backdoor in on purpose.

I think the recent exploit of the intel ME really woke some upper execs up to just what the fuck they were actually playing with here. AMD moving away from having the PSP on their shit is a sign that they recognize the risk and are taking action accordingly. I'd be willing to bet some guys at the top are sweating bullets hoping there's no major exploit discovered in the PSP before it's phased out of most AMD products.

>>60489596
With enough voltage and frequency tweaking it's quite easy. More interesting is the fact that getting a real quad core for mobile is going to be cheap and won't require that much cooling since the chips are made with low power mobile process anyways.

>>60483231
You've confused AMD with Intel. The backdoor is in the Intel Management Engine.

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>amd laptop

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>>60490485

>>60490485
You're right, why would AMD's Ryzen CPUs that are ridiculously power efficient while still performing close or in some cases better than Intel's CPUs ever be in a laptop? Retard.