RYZEN destroyed intel. Is nvidia ready for VEGA! AMD ready to

Load up on those AMD stock boys, and dump nvidia shares before you lose your retirement. 2017-2020 is all AMD.

inb4 the vegas are only good in gpgpu and people start backpedaling and say that it was a workstation gpu all along
just like with ryzen

>>60479217
Do you ever got bored of this?
I wonder what kinda life you live if you get the time to make these kinda threads daily.

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CANT WAIT

>>60479240
Out shekelburg. AMD is destroying the silicon JEW. IntelVidiots aren't ready for this shoah.

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>>60479217
>Boy! I sure can't wait until Q3 for consumer Vega to finally launch!
Maybe I should just wait for volta, seeing as that's only around the corner.

>>60479217
>RYZEN destroyed intel
If that is your perception of reality I'm sure you will be impressed by Vega

>>60479240
RYZEN released. Intel dead in it's tracks. No fucking competition!

Next VEGA out for nvidia blood. No hope for Huang. Dump those stale stocks, and horde AMD while the getting is good.

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>>60479255
lmao nvidia don't even have real silicon, just an overclocked pascal and a fpga pretending to be their tensor core

>>60479275
>intel still #1 in sales
>intel is dead
yup

>>60479259
You forget benchmarks are out. RYZEN dominates. More powerful than 6900k for less money. Intel shills can't deny this FACT!

>>60479217
>Competition for Pascal arrives a year later
>still doubtful if it can even beat the top cards of that lineup on performance, let alone power efficiency
>volta right aorund the corner.
Lol, get out Fanboy, time to face up to reality

>>60479292
just like ryzen dominated in benchmarks before people actually tested it
amd loves cherrypicking

>>60479279
Volta IS bigger Pascal with ASIC crammed into GPU.

>>60479292
>More powerful than 6900k for less money
I'm not disputing that, there is more to intel's line up than just the 6900k though.

The 7700k still trashes anything Ryzen has to offer in games except for a few cherrypicked examples which somebody will undoutebly post within a few minutes

>>60479302
(((THEY))) tested RYZEN wrong. Everyone who properly tested RYZEN has it outperforming both 6900k AND 7700K while using less energy.

DENY THIS SHILL!!!

>>60479303
no yout not going to get volta in HBM2 most of it will be DDR6 dumb ass
Unless you have money to dump on a volta titan forget any hope of real HBM2 with nvidia

meanwhile Vega will be HBM at least on some of the models.

>>60479298
This its not DOA but it sure isn't in the top end lol.

>>60479338
>those benchmarks don't count
>only the ones that validate my warped view of reality do
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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>>60479309
i will never forget this fallout 4 benchmark
>a 459$ cpu is slower than a 70$ one

>>60479338
>((()))
>shill
i don't think arguing with you will actually do anything, you will just say that the bad results were posted by (((THEM))) or that i'm just shilling or whatever buzzword you will find

>>60479344
Are you fucking retarded? I said nothing about HBM. Volta was a lie, it's a bigger Pascal with ASIC crammed into GPU.

>>60479217
After what we've seen from vega I'm not holding my breath. It'll probably be competitive with nvidia when it comes down to price/perf, but it look like it'll be a paper launch, so most people in the market for a GPU will already have bought a nvidia card before they can get their hands on Vega. Maybe next year they will get navi out in time to really compete with nvidia. I know I'm holding on to my 980ti and its shitty drivers for another year.

>>60479357
Fallout 4? Try running vms on an i5 pleb. How much does intel charge for 4 cores with hyper threading? AMD is the fucking savior we've been waiting for!!!!!!

8 full cores with SMT for around the price of an i7? Only shiltells lackeys would even make this seem bad.

>>60479292
>wat is latency

>>60479434
It doesn't matter for new games. All future games will favor AMD, why? Because all consoles run superior AMD hardware.

What's your answer to that? NOTHING!!!

Awaiting CRICKETS.

>>60479474
Yeah, I remember Adoredtv making that argument two years ago.

Yet the 7700k still dominates and slow clockspeed many core cpu's still fall behind in the majority of games.

>>60479415
>Fallout 4? Try running vms on an i5 pleb
Intel is shit at pretty much everything except dwarf fortress.

>>60479366
YOUR LOSS. AMD shares SKYROCKET while you earn minimum wage next to your exnvidia cohorts while collecting parking lot shopping carriages. All because you believed what nvidia, and intel shat in your gaping mouth.

>>60479509
Calm down Pajeet

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>>60479357
>but MUH 1 fps
I will never forget this benchmark where 7700k gets 49 fps and the 1500X 99 fps

>>60479217
>RYZEN destroyed intel
nice meme

>>60479541
t. trans-nigger jew

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>>60479533
Don't forget about this benchmark either

>>60479556
Still better than 49 vs 99 fps so pootel is shit forever more.

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>>60479533
STOP

Even if Ryzen and Vega crushed Intel and Nvidia to smithereens performance-wise, Nvidia and Intel are still gonna sell more because AMD has so much negative consumer baggage that by the time perceptions shifted Nvidia and Intel would be out with new tech and on top once again.

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>>60479565
>yfw Poozen is slower even with faster RAM
top kek

>>60479357
>>60479415
>>60479474
>>60479533
>>60479556
>>60479565
>>60479585
>le gayming benchmarks
back to /v/irgin land you all go

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The power of Ryzen in AMD sponsored games

>>60479474
>>>/v/

I'm talking about real usage you imbecile

>>60479585
>112 vs 132
See >>60479565

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

>>60479608
What's more real than all actual games that are on consoles? AMD hardware now=optimized games for AMD. LITERALLY FUTURE PROOF.

This is what intel, and nvidia WON'T tell you!!!

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>>60479633
This guy gets it, Intel is inferior in every way

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>poozen

>>60479633
Datacenter, server grade CPUs. Zen has serious latency issues, and most of the CPU usage on servers and datacenters is waiting for memory. As I said
>>>/v/

ITT: /v/ leaking into this board as always
if you benchmark a CPU by it's "ebic gayming performance" shoot yourself in the head so nobody has to hear your autistic mumbling in the back of bestbuy ever again

>>60479653
>Zen has serious latency issues
What latency issues? Any memory dependant workload werks fine on Zen. Neck yourself kike.

>>60479217
Those constant shilling threads are getting tiresome. Doesn't matter if its Intel, and or nvidia or any other brand. Its just annoying at this point.

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b-b-b-b-bbuy i-i-intel f-f-f-for g-g-gayming g-goy

>>60479665
>t. how do CPUs werk

>>60479668
>gaming
hang yourself nigger

>>60479217
THANK YOU GLORIOUS RYZEN FOR SAVING US FROM POOTEL'S INFERIOR STUTTERING HOUSEFIRES

>>60479669
>t. kike

>>60479667
I agree but its better than getting freetard threads fulling up /g/.
need a good debate here and there.

>>60479684
Are all AMD fanboys underage?

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>>60479680
Ok then.

>>60479685
>hurr i just call people goyims and kikes when i lose an internet argument because im 16 and actually have no idea about technology
you are the cancer killing /g/
>>60479686
>gaming performance debates
leave those in /v/irgin land

>>60479649
Damn, this really made me think. I think giving up on two extra cores, eight threads, and SMT so that I can get that extra two FPS.

>>60479243
just wait

>>60479701
Intel shitters are the most retarded creatures in the entire universe, news at 11.

>>60479701
No you're right, you should go for the worse performing product, that's definately a smart move

>>60479606
You can't handle it could you. Intel is dead LONG LIVE THE NEW KING AMD.
RYZEN is for GAYEMIN & PRODUCTIVITY.


NVIDIA IS NEXT TO DIE!!!!!! VEGA IS COMMING!

You get a GOLD STAR for effort. It grants you a free train ride to AUSCHWITZ.

>>60479736
Is this guy the living Pajeet meme?

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>>60479736
>You get a GOLD STAR for effort. It grants you a free train ride to AUSCHWITZ
You're evil and anti-semitic.

>>60479749
This place has attracted so many idiots during the elections that I don' know if it's just shitposting or genuine imbecile.

VEGA for PRO-SUMERS. Games+Productivity. GOODBYE (((nvidia))) we won't miss you.

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>>60479680
You sure you want non-gaymen?

>>60479533
no worries, Elite Sniper is for old people with slow reaction time. the game should be locked at 30fps.

The 16 core is legit but what about the 10 12 and 14 core ryzen for The x399

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IM LITERALLY SHAKING
AMD ALWAYS WINS BROS

>>60479749
Pretty much I hope these threads stop. It ruined g for me before, and now I still hate seeing them. Hopefully eyes open , and threads like these die off.

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>>60479984
Wrong image breh

>>60479217
Ryzen is the thinking man's CPU.

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>>60480088
>>60479984
>>60479573
>>60479243
>>60479255

everyday i check these threads and these pictures kill me.
almost made me cry laughing, that the same game gets played everyday and the same pictures are posted everyday and you all have them saved and the play memorized. And everyday they get posted in the right order like clock work.

you people are killing me.

>>60479217
RIPtel

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>>60479585

>>60479533
>minimum FPS

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>>60479607
Gas chambers weren't enough.

>>60479556
>Ryzen using faster RAM

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>>60479653
Yeah, that's why it BTFOs Xeons LMAO

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>>60479698
Memory latency doesn't stop it from shitting over an Intel HEDT 8-core that is twice the price though.

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>>60479217
as long as amd is stupidly overpriced here in the uk, i won't be buying them. both the rx 480 and rx 580 have lower msrp than the 1060 but over here the 580 and 480 are £10-£20 more expensive. this is an absolute joke.

>>60482072
Holy shit

>>60482433
>>60482072
>7700k beats xeons too
really activating my almonds about the validity of these benchmarks

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>>60482465
Okay, let's compare the $490 1800x to the $1,650 6950X instead then LMAO

>>60482611
>single core CPU performance
Ok buddy

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>>60482706
>Hurr durr I'll just ignore the 2/3 of the results that aren't single-core
Here, have some more benchmarks of the $1,000 6900k losing to the $490 1800x

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>>60479357
Does this benchmark count?

>>60482760
>L-Look the 6950x is worse
>beats the 1800x
>L-Look the 6900k is worse
you guys really like to latch onto the 6900k
The processor that nobody bought and intel doesn't give a shit about

>>60482785
>>60482072
You just renamed the benchmark to post again

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>>60479556
>>60479585
>Gayming
OY VEY!

>>60482818
>Gaming is for jews
You guys are really reaching
Interesting how all of the benchmarks from that page showing Ryzen being worse were left out

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>>60482802
So are you conceding that the 1800x beats the 6900k for half the price then?

>>60479701
>keep 2 extra cores
>8 threads
>SMT
>miss out on 2 extra fps

You smart

>>60482818
How many times is this going to be posted now? Came in here to see benchmarks on games since I'm about to build a new desktop but this AMD shilling is just going to make me buy a 7700 regardless.

>>60482844
Interesting how you can't actually provide any evidence at all.

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>>60482906
Games you say?

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>>60482906
>>60482933
Gaming benchmarks it is then.

>>60482933
Any for 4K FPS? Not building a new system for anything but.

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>>60482960
At 4k you will be GPU bottlenecked anyway, in which case you might as well go Ryzen for better minimums and better non-gaming performance.

>>60482992
Will be running 1080ti so hopefully not to limited.. Not spending the coin for 2 of them.

And be neat to finally test out a VIVE, literally still never put a VR on to this day. Waiting until have a beast so no issues with the running of it just a straight do I hate this fad shit or do I enjoy it.

>>60483036
With a 1080ti at 4k you will definitely still be GPU bottlenecked, as far as I know you shouldn't even expect the 1080ti to consistently give you 60fps at 4k.

When will this thread be nuked?

>>60482926
Evidence of what? lmao
I never even made any claims dude you've just been posting benchmarks and being incredibly defensive for literally no reason

>>60482933
>7700k using slower 3200mhz cl14

>>60479231
I got rid of my NVDA shares at the beginning of the year and bought my 4th house. I bought AMD shares with the remaining six figure sum.

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>>60483269

>>60483250
>all of the benchmarks from that page showing Ryzen being worse were left out
>Interesting how you can't actually provide any evidence at all
>Evidence of what? lmao
Not him but holy shit you're clinically retarded.

>>60483378
Just go to the toms hardware page
Fucking moron

>>60483355
>1% low

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>>60483490
>Caring about average FPS more than minimums

>>60483459
Just go the tom's hardware comment section
Fucking moron

>>60483490
Stutters are ok LOL.

>>60483511
Average FPS matters more
It's the average FPS you're going to achieve
If your game even drops to 40 FPS once in an entire hour test then that's your minumum, which is bullshit for actual real world experiences
>>60483523
Why the fuck would I read the comment section full of damage control, you guys have an excuse for everything

>>60483562
>>60483543
>>60483511
To add to this, none of you ever cared about minimum FPS before Ryzen, not a single word of it anywhere, nobody gave a shit
Becuase you find the one thing Ryzen does well and you grasp onto it for dear life, whether it matters or not

Average FPS matters more than minimums

>>60483562
Because the entire planet realized how retarded they are.

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>2017
YES GOY JUST BUY 7NM PROCESSORS LOL

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>>60483562
>>60483591
Gee, I wonder why shekelchasers would suddenly take this position?

It's truly a mystery.

>>60483591
>Average FPS matters more than minimums
>s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-stutters a-a-a-are o-o-o-o-o-o-ok

>>60483644
>Stays at 60
>drops to 40 for a millisecond over the course of 4 hours
>LMAO S-T-T-T-T-T-TUTTER
Grow up
>>60483641
Nobody ever cared about minimums before Ryzen, nobody. Then suddenly after Ryzen released all of the videos of intels apparent stutters released, becuase that is the only thing Ryzen is good at and you had to run with something. You needed some excuse for the shitty gaming performance

>>60483641
Shut up stupid goy.

>>60483680
That's because unlike you people actually care about smooth gayming.

>>60483680
>being so assblasted as to deny facts
Grow up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypkqwpOtNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcCqnE5mRw&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswrFCb5sMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuQu-y0GnPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11NfsMykyAk

>>60483731
No, you don't care about smooth gaming, you just care about beating intel in SOMETHING
Can't beat them in the maximums? just gotta look for something else to grasp onto, minimums.
Averages matter more than minimums, and times under averages matter more than averages
The time the frames remain under 100 matter much more than if the game dropped to 40 fps for a millisecond.
This is why minimums skew results, if you even drop once, over the course of an entire hour, once, for a millisecond, then "LMAO STUTTER XD NEED SMOOTH GAYMEN"

>>60483777
>GTA meme that was already disproven
>Watch Niggers 2: Unoptimized edition
>Niggerfield 1: low CPU vs low CPU edition
Nice evidence

>>60483680
1%, dumbass. That's means 144s out of 4 hours. 2,5 minutes of shit.

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>>60483680
>>60483681
Except that even in a double blind test players were able to easily subjectively identify stuttering:

https://youtu.be/ybF7r4rogHc

So it turns out your just a kiketel shekelchaser in full damage control mode, as usual.

>>60483783
Thanks for reinforcing the fact that stutters are ok for you. Now fuck off and take your stuttering housefires with you.

>>60483803
>IT'S A CONSPIRACY LALALALALALALALA

>>60483808
>in a multiplayer game where you can't accurately re-create test scenarios
>>60483812
>It's a """""""blind""""""" test we swear
>>60483818
Jesus christ you people are pathetic, just have to spout memes over and over again
JEW JEW SHILL HOUSEFIRE STUTTERLAKE JEW OY VEY
Fucking grow up, it's understandable that you have to defend your CPU purchase because 300 dollars is alot for you in highschool but you gotta get your priorities straight

>>60483777
Jesus Christ Intel is a fucking piece of shit CPU for gaming

>>60483833
>meanwhile
>DX12 drivers gimps AMD performance waaahhhh
>Muh tessellation
>Muh gameworks
>WAHHHHHH intel compiler
nobody is creating conspiracies except you

>>60483847
I'm not defending Intel's stuttering housefires tho.

>>60483812
>>60483777
>fat neckbeards with a linux penguin and a martini glass of candy
>We know Ryzen is good but is it smoother
They knew from the beginning what they were doing, fucking shills. They have multiple videos talking about this

>>60483812
Yeah Intel is really awful at pretty much everything, their only excuse is a shitty corelet housefire and a fucking BENTIUM.

Really depressing.

>>60483847
Nice evidence free shitpost. Here's your (You).

>>60483896
Doesn't change the fact that Intel is shit

>>60483896
>Multiple independent sources are all biased because they don't agree with what I want to believe!
Someone does need to grow up here: (You).

>>60483940
>>60483932
>the exact shame shills from the other 3 threads these past couple days
who would've guessed
Be honest, how much do you make, or do you do it for free

>>60483957
This is the current state of Intel shitters. They're seriously anally devastated.

>>60483957
>>60483932
Stop samefagging, you're neckbeards aren't proof of your conspiracies

>>60483973
>>60483957
Why are you still replying to yourself?

>>60483962
Calm down anon, no need to get so buttmad over the fact that Intel is shit

>>60483962
I'm not shilling. I'm presenting evidence. The evidence leads inexorably to a conclusion. It's just happens to be that the conclusion the majority of the evidence points to infuriates the anti-AMD trolls who shit up this board with hundreds of crying wojak, "POO POO POO", "JUST WAIT" and IMG_xxxx.jpg shitposts a day.

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>>60483984
lel so desperate

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>>60484000
You are the exact same shill from the vega wait thread

>>60484000
Trips confirm Intel shills are buttmad.

>>60484006
>poster count never went up
>uses inspect element

>>60484030
Go ask a mod you anally devastated autist.

>>60484000
>meanwhile at AMD
>STUTTER STUTTER XD
>HOUSEFIRE
>WOJAKS
>Joker_Productions_benchmark.jpg
>RAJEEP
You fags do the exact same thing, stop trying to ride your high horse

>>60483621
>to be defined line

reading is hard, innit

>>60484072
>2017 right under 7nm
Nope, this is just retardation.

>>60484109
They have their 7nm fab completed though

>>60483812
Level1techs made a point of emphasizing that the stutters were very infrequent and the quality of play on each build was relatively indistinguishable. Furthermore, they also emphasized that the two offending games: GTA and Fallout, are notorious for being unoptimized on all platforms.

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>>60484109
>>60483621
What does that say there
uhhhhhh reach? recharge
oh shit research

>>60484137
Yay, 7nm CPUs confirmed for 2022

>>60484015
I'm not a shill, I'm just annoyed at the volume of evidence free anti-AMD shitposting done on this board. You want to argue that Intel or Nvidia are better in whatever use cases? Then use evidence and logic to try and prove that. Don't fucking make hundreds of low effort anti-AMD shitposts a day and then get mad when people post evidence to counter that shitposting.

>>60484157
>(((((((((((((research))))))))))))))

>>60484109

2015 is after the "To be defined line"

Must be hard not being able to read

>>60484149
Fair points, but that double blind test is hardly the only piece of evidence for Intel having issues with frametimes and 0.1% and 1% lows. There are enough pieces of independent evidence out there to indicate it is a real issue.

Now, if only some more tests would be done to try and objectively gauge how noticeable the stuttering issues are to more people who haven't been told about them in advance.

>>60484149
I've included five games in my post

>>60484166
You are shilling and you think masquerading yourself as an AMD white knight defender of justice is better

>>60484205
That's what people get for buying kabylake over skylake
the stutters are completely exclusive to kabylake
Skylake is objectively better

>>60484219
You can believe whatever you want, but posting evidence isn't shilling. The benchmarks show what they show, the massive diversity of benchmarks show that they aren't cherry picked.

If the overwhelming majority of benchmarks showed the opposite results and I still posted them, would I be shilling for Intel then? No. I'm shilling for using evidence and logic to make your point instead of low effort evidence free shitposts.

>>60484182
>to be defined
Then don't put 2017 right under 7nm you dumb sack of shit.

>>60484304
its not their fault youre an idiot

>>60484533
>no U

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>>60479217
>RYZEN destroyed intel
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

>>60484282
>>60484166
>>60484058
See >>60485280

>Ryzen 5 1600
>RX 580 8GB
Is this the ultimate build?

>>60482064
Ryzen defaults to 1T so it is using faster ram.

1T is often enough to offset more than a +200mhz gain in memory OC.

>>60482992
>GayMansNextAss
discarded

>>60486947
Please feel free to provide some alternative 4k benchmarks if you don't like the one I used.

>>60485346
no the 1070 + 1600 is the ultimate price/perf build.

>>60487015
But the RX 580 8GB beats the 1070 in some games, specially DX12 which is the future.
Why would I spend $100+ more for a minimal performance gain

>>60479217
Fury X 2.0

The more things change, the more things stay the same

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>>60487040
are you just pretending to be retarded?

1. if i were to go for a shitty mainstream card i'd easily get the 1060 6gb since it's absolute miles cheaper, see: >>60482318

2. the 1070 is only ~£75 more than the 580 8gb at its cheapest

3. unless you can pull me a 10 AAA games since the 1070 came out where the 580 comprehensively beats the 1070 you can fuck off with that bullshit

>>60479357
Where is the 7700k in all of this?

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>tfw thanks to you shills I actually understand this term
I went to pic cherries and treats yield like 30% waste, so basically you just pick the good ones. Fuck how come it took me so long to understand?

>>60487113
This is in the UK not here, I can find the 580 for the same price or lower than the 1060 6GB here and the 1070 is much more expensive (around +$120)

I got an rx480 but I'm thinking of selling it to go nvida since they got better support for indie games like path of exile

My 3570k oc from 2012 still doesn't need replacing for gaming

>>60487248
PoE has major issues on amd last time i checked. there is even some PoE youtuber who made a video about why he was forced to end his contract with amd because the game wouldn't work on the amd computers they sent him.

>>60482952
what GPU is used for that?
how the hell they managed to get only 44 fps in AC4? This is some 1030 used for this test.

>>60487015
>1070 + 1600
That's fucking retarded. Just wait for Vega for fuck's sake!

>>60482046
?
Drops and stutter are just as important.

>>60482093
Because the benchmarks are not the same loads a server or a storage appliance might have. But I didn't expect anything more from you to be perfectly honest so *shrug*. Bottom line is that Xeons still outperform same class Zen due to latency on servers, and I don't care about video games or rendering because I don't consume neither.

>>60489258
Oh look, more assertions entirely without evidence.

Prove it. Show me a single piece of evidence that Xeons outperform Epyc CPUs in any actual real workloads. Go ahead. I'll wait.

>>60480633
are you ded yet?

>>60489258
muh latency

Think they'll announce some APUs at computex?

>>60482046
That's pretty much the most important fps

I don't give a shit if it peaks at 1000fps if the damn game is stuttering and dropping to 20fps every 3 seconds

>>60489575
Asus already showed a reveal trailer for a laptop with ryzen APU. From what it looks like APU's will be available soon, but only through OEM's. So the original release for the APU's is presumably for non-OEM customers.

Which is fine by me, since the big thing I was looking for is a ryzen laptop with long battery life.

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>>60483355
STOP IT

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>>60483562
>Stuttering is A-ok
sure it is, good goyim

>>60489302
I don't have to, the evidence is on your hand, since you're the one shilling things here, I simply use the tool that gets the fucking job done, some of it is on AMD, the other part is on Xeons for a very good reason. I really see no point in shilling for either since the amd64 architecture is trash and neither of the two companies don't give two shits about the community, so I really don't get why you even bother

>>60490911
>Yet another evidence free shitpost
(You)

>>60479607
>>60479556
Are there any Intel-supporting benchmarks that aren't on complete literalwho games? I mean really, who the fuck even plays Tomb Raider?

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So while we're on the topic of benchmarks and arbitrary minor differences between CPUs can any of you find benchmarks for DDR4 Single Channel RAM at 2400MHz versus DDR4 Dual Channel RAM at 2400MHz, I tried looking a few days ago and couldn't find any.

Thank you in advance.